WEBVTT - Apple News and Google's New Acquisition

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, from the heart of where innovation, money and power

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<v Speaker 1>collive in Silicon Valley and beyond. This is Bloomberg Technology

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<v Speaker 1>with Emily Jay. I'm Emily Chang in San Francisco, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is Bloomberg Technology coming up in the next hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Volatility continues to grip global financial markets as the U

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<v Speaker 1>S and the UK cut off, Russian oil stocks, bonds

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<v Speaker 1>tech swinging wildly. We'll bring you the market moves class.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple unveils a new five g iPad and iPhone with

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<v Speaker 1>its faster signature chip. But how will the global economic uncertainty, inflation,

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<v Speaker 1>rising gas prices impact consumer demand? We'll discuss and Mandy

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<v Speaker 1>and off the market. Google beats out Microsoft and its

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<v Speaker 1>second biggest acquisition. Ever, how this chang changes the cyber

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<v Speaker 1>defense landscape with Ukraine and Russia related hack attacks on

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<v Speaker 1>the rise. The new iPhone sc brings the advanced features

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<v Speaker 1>and exceptional performance of a fifteen to our most affordable iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be great for existing iPhone users who

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<v Speaker 1>want to highly capable and compact iPhone and for new

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<v Speaker 1>users who want to experience iPhone for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple CEO Tim Cook there at the company's first product

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<v Speaker 1>event kicking off what's likely to be its most prolific

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<v Speaker 1>year yet for new product releases, I want to break

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<v Speaker 1>the event down with Juliasca Forster Research on our very

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<v Speaker 1>own Mark German. So, Mark, we got a new iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>new iPad air, we got the the M one chip

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<v Speaker 1>in more products. Talked to us about the most significant

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<v Speaker 1>updates we saw today. Yeah, I think the two most

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<v Speaker 1>significant product that we we saw today was the new

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone SC as well as the Max Studio next to

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<v Speaker 1>your display, I'll consider that, you know, one combined product line.

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<v Speaker 1>So starting with the SC, I think that's significant because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to bring over a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>switchers to the iPhone, particularly people who want to get

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<v Speaker 1>a somewhat low priced five G phone. Right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the big news for the SC is five G. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not at the school thought that thanks five G

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<v Speaker 1>has really moved the needle in terms of performance, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe five G has been an extremely key

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<v Speaker 1>marketing term for Apple, Samsung and other phonemakers and of

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<v Speaker 1>course the carriers you know, for the most part, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is going to drive some interest. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the Max Studio. In the Max Studio display. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the display at six is going to do fairly well.

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<v Speaker 1>Consumers have been looking for an Apple design Apple sold

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<v Speaker 1>display since they discontinued their own cinema displays several years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about six years ago. At this point, at six,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about a third of the price of their five

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<v Speaker 1>to six thousand dollar Pro display XTR. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to be a very nice offering. This

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<v Speaker 1>new M one Ultra chip, I think is really going

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<v Speaker 1>to give Intel run for its money on the mid tier,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ching towards the high end as well on

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<v Speaker 1>their chip lineup. And I think this Max Studio it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be low volume, but it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>popular amongst creative types video editing, photo editors, engineers, etcetera. Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple's coming off a records heading holiday quarter, but being

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<v Speaker 1>thrust into several months of global economic uncertainty and it's

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<v Speaker 1>paused services in Russia cut off product sales there. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you think these updates will actually drive demand in

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<v Speaker 1>the coming quarters in the context of what's happening happening

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<v Speaker 1>on the macro economic level. Yeah, so I would echo

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<v Speaker 1>what Mark said, when we look at you, when we

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<v Speaker 1>look at so many one percent of consumers United States

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<v Speaker 1>North America already own a smart pophone. So the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you grow shared by taking it from Android, and

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<v Speaker 1>our data shows that of iPhone smartphone owner purchasers in

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<v Speaker 1>the past three months, six percent came from Android devices,

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like Apple is making progress there. Also

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at households on a tablet today, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of upside for Apple there. And when

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<v Speaker 1>we look at streaming TV services, we show that consumers

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<v Speaker 1>are watching appwards of four to five hours of streaming

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<v Speaker 1>TV and games each day. Uh. And Apples third today, um,

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<v Speaker 1>with you know Amazon being in first place. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of upside for Apple as it continues to

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<v Speaker 1>build on its product portfolio, including the services so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Echo marks comments today. Um. And then certainly the chip

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<v Speaker 1>sets are impressive. That's always going to give them an advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>not just in putting more performance, more power efficient devices

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<v Speaker 1>into smaller and thinner packages. That's always going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a winning formula, but as we look forward into future

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<v Speaker 1>experiences having that kind of power on a device and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to do things like computer vision and speech

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<v Speaker 1>recognition and security facial recognition on device are all very

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<v Speaker 1>powerful attributes of those devices. So, Julie, are you worried

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<v Speaker 1>about consumer demand? Though obviously you know we're worried about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, rising gas prices on top of inflation. Could

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<v Speaker 1>that impact demand for these devices over the next few months.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not an economist, so you know, the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is is possibly. We haven't seen a slowdown. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we all thought the pandemic would impact our spending. That

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<v Speaker 1>was two years ago. That proved to be wrong. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll not an economist. We don't yet see that in

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<v Speaker 1>our numbers when we looked at consumer's plant purchases over

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<v Speaker 1>the next three to six months. But certainly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>given what's going on in Ukraine day to day, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to have perfect information and mark obviously focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>the day to day. We know that Apple pause product

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<v Speaker 1>sales in Russia. There have been calls from the Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 1>government for Apple to cut off the app store. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you expecting Apple to make any more aggressive moves in

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<v Speaker 1>the region or not? I mean I saw Pepsi, Coca Cola,

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's and Starbucks today. Really the Lover's Apple pulled in

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<v Speaker 1>Russia are the big ones. They could have done right.

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<v Speaker 1>They could have paused sale, They could have removed some

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<v Speaker 1>of the Russian newsps from external app stores outside of Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>They stopped exports into their sales channels into the country there,

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<v Speaker 1>and did some changes to maps and other services. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think pulling the apps or or disabling. People have

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<v Speaker 1>called for them to disable iPhones in Russia. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I personally think that would be a gigantic step that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the company is ready to take now.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, they do have services like Apple Music,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple TV Plus, books and podcasts in Russia, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they were to take those offline, that would match some

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<v Speaker 1>of the moves you're seeing from the Netflix of the

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<v Speaker 1>world that have pulled their service temporarily in Russia. What

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<v Speaker 1>they did do earlier this week is they paused search ads,

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<v Speaker 1>which is their advertising service inside of the app. Sturce

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<v Speaker 1>or developers can no longer sell ads in their store

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<v Speaker 1>in Russia. Will there be more to come? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible, but as of today, they haven't done anything additional.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of TV plus, major League Baseball games coming to

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<v Speaker 1>Apple tv Plus, which is super cool, except for the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that MLB and the players are in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of a lockout and regular season games the first couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks have been canceled. No deal in sight at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. Is this something that you think could be

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<v Speaker 1>material to subscriptions to Apple TV Plus or just a

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<v Speaker 1>nice to have? I mean, I'll tell you I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Laker fan, and I'm sorry if that was for Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, go ahead, Mark, go ahead, Mark, Julie. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you get a crack at it too. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA fan, you know, first and foremost, not an

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<v Speaker 1>MLB fan, So if this was an NBA related deal,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it would get me to sign up. We also

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<v Speaker 1>don't know when this is actually going to kick off

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<v Speaker 1>because of the negotiations in the MLB world right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think this is just the first of many.

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<v Speaker 1>We're probably going to see a racing deal. Given some

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Q their head of services as big into that,

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<v Speaker 1>as is their head of marketing or former head of marketing,

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Schiller. I think we'll see additional sports over time.

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<v Speaker 1>They do have some relationships with the NBA. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about NFL, so I think two games a

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<v Speaker 1>week on Friday nights is not really going to move

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<v Speaker 1>the needle for Apple TV plus. What the US move

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<v Speaker 1>the needle for me is the fact that they are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get these deals done, and it's possible you'll

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<v Speaker 1>have one service, Apple TV Plus that has several different

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<v Speaker 1>sports leads all integrated, whereas some of the competitors either

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<v Speaker 1>have only one, two or none at this point. Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a baseball fan, so I'll give you thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds you take a swing. How important is mL Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would echo what Mark said. I think when we

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<v Speaker 1>look at you know, why aren't people cutting the court

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<v Speaker 1>yet from their cable operators, who satellite operators to TV?

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<v Speaker 1>It is because of live sports. I think the question

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<v Speaker 1>that comes into play though, is becoming very fragmented now

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<v Speaker 1>for consumers. I can't just go one place and get

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<v Speaker 1>all the sports that I want, you know, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of different steaming services get Thursday night football,

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night baseball, Sunday night football, whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's we'll see how it plays out long

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<v Speaker 1>term with consumers. So definitely directly it's the right place

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<v Speaker 1>to go, all right. Jually ask for star Mark German,

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<v Speaker 1>who covers Apple of course from Bloomberg News thank you both.

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<v Speaker 1>More companies joining the growing list of brands assists spending

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<v Speaker 1>operations in Russia amid its invasion of Ukraine. The latest

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<v Speaker 1>now PayPal, which is not the only payments company to

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<v Speaker 1>pull out of the country. MasterCard and Visa announced over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend they cut off their networks as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of the war coming up. Securing the deal, it is

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<v Speaker 1>the second biggest acquisition ever for Google. Google buying the

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<v Speaker 1>cybersecurity for Mandy and five point four billion dollars, aiming

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<v Speaker 1>to take on Amazon and Microsoft in the cloud. What

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<v Speaker 1>it means next, this is Bloomberg. Google has agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>buy the cybersecurity for mandy And for five point for

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars cash. It is the company's second biggest deal ever.

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<v Speaker 1>It will give Google more tools to protect its cloud

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<v Speaker 1>clients by responding more quickly to online threats. Joining us

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<v Speaker 1>now are Bloomberg Tech reporter Nico Grant. It covers alphabet

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<v Speaker 1>for US, Nico y Google and not Microsoft, which was

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<v Speaker 1>also in competition for this deal. And what does it

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<v Speaker 1>mean Well, Google is a company that's trying to catch

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<v Speaker 1>up to Microsoft and Amazon in the cloud and also

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to offering cybersecurity products. Microsoft kicked the

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<v Speaker 1>tires at Mandians and was engaged in talks, and our

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<v Speaker 1>reporting is that more than a week ago Microsoft decided

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<v Speaker 1>to exit the process, not feeling that Mandians business, which

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<v Speaker 1>was so dependent on uh cyber events that happened and

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<v Speaker 1>providing consulting services, Microsoft didn't think that was the best

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<v Speaker 1>strategic fit for its business. Google, meanwhile, has tried to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of the environment we're in right now in

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<v Speaker 1>which you have many cyber attacks that are happening. You

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<v Speaker 1>have the war of Russia in Ukraine that is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>That raising the specter and fears even more. And Google

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<v Speaker 1>can say to customers, we can prevent cyber attacks from

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<v Speaker 1>happening in the first place, and if they do, we

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<v Speaker 1>will be best at detecting them and helping you respond

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<v Speaker 1>to them, and then we'll use that knowledge we learn

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<v Speaker 1>to protect all other clients. What impact will this have

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<v Speaker 1>on the cyber defense landscape as we see the number

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<v Speaker 1>of hack attacks tied to the Russia Ukraine evolving conflict,

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<v Speaker 1>continue to wratch it up. Yeah, this is a major

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<v Speaker 1>concern right now, and there have been reports from Google

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<v Speaker 1>as well as others that they've seen many attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>hack Ukrainians and Russians and their organizations as part of

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<v Speaker 1>this UM. This is going to be something that Google

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<v Speaker 1>will say be very helpful for its existing clients who

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<v Speaker 1>may want to try out Mandiant UH and who could

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<v Speaker 1>choose to buy access to Mandians intelligence. Ultimately, Mandant is

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<v Speaker 1>looking at threats all across the web. It's done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of reporting and research on what Chinese hackers and

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<v Speaker 1>Russian hackers are doing UM and that becomes a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of, you know, the advisory work that they do

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<v Speaker 1>with clients more broadly, and so Mandant will be telling

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<v Speaker 1>customers right now, these are the types of attacks, this

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<v Speaker 1>is how it might happen. Here's what you can learn,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Nicole Grant, thanks for reporting on that. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if that deal in fact closes gets any regulatory

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<v Speaker 1>scrutiny as well. Welcome back to Bluber Technology. Emily Check

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco. Well on this international women say, we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking a moment to celebrate how much women have achieved

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<v Speaker 1>and how much work there is left to do. Recent

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<v Speaker 1>data from pitch book shows that so far, in two

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<v Speaker 1>startups with only female founders have snatched just two point

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<v Speaker 1>one percent of venture capital, same as last year. Same

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<v Speaker 1>as I want to bring in Lux Capitals, Dana Shaquier

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<v Speaker 1>for more so, Dina. They've already started compiling the data

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<v Speaker 1>for this year and it's no better than it was

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<v Speaker 1>last year two, which makes no sense, of course, when

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<v Speaker 1>women are half the population, what gives? Well? First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy International Women's Day, Emily, and thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for having me and for uh and for bringing this

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<v Speaker 1>important topic to the conversation. I am still hopeful, and

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<v Speaker 1>as I told you last week, I would actually say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm optimistic a f um. The data is not quite

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<v Speaker 1>up to date in terms of where we are for two,

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<v Speaker 1>at least from what I'm seeing, I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>still tremendous opportunity. I have to say, and maybe I'm biased.

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<v Speaker 1>The companies that I'm seeing are not only solo women

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<v Speaker 1>founders who are coming from deeply technical and clinical fields,

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<v Speaker 1>but across the board more diverse than I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>in prior years. Things are changing, and I expect the

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<v Speaker 1>data to follow suit. Okay, what about check writers like yoursel?

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen point three percent of check writers now are women.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that's critical to getting more women and a

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<v Speaker 1>greater diversity of ideas funded. But even that number, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's up from like eleven percent a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. It's moving so slowly, it really is, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not enough. I we have a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is data which Coffin Fellows has published, along

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<v Speaker 1>with a plethora of other data, including from Bloomberg, on

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of cap table diversity, not only in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of founding teams, but on the performance of those teams,

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<v Speaker 1>on the performance of those boards, on revenues, on faster

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<v Speaker 1>time to exit. So this is not about diversity for

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<v Speaker 1>diversity's sake, or even for the sake of a holiday

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<v Speaker 1>like today. It's fundamentally good for business. It's good for investors,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good for LPs, and it's good for our economy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we we really need to move the needle here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm again excited to see all of the young

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<v Speaker 1>talent that's coming to the table, people who may not

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<v Speaker 1>have considered a future adventure before. Uh, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>role models that they've had the chance to to see

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<v Speaker 1>elevated in recent years. Well, women can change the world alone.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to need the help of men and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious in the boardroom, are you seeing male investors, male

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<v Speaker 1>check writers more open to women founders or women ideas

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<v Speaker 1>you know? Or is it still the women funding the

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<v Speaker 1>smart breast pump for the women's health tech solution. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only am I seeing investors more open to it, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually seeing incredible companies that are innovating for women in

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<v Speaker 1>women's health and in other areas that are founded by men.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And some of those happened to be in my portfolio,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I do think there's been a tied ship.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been incredibly competitive deals um that that we've

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<v Speaker 1>had the chance to participate in, and many of the

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<v Speaker 1>folks coming to the table are are men, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's really not a gendered preference here. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>folks are starting to see that this is fundamentally good

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<v Speaker 1>for the world, good for our economy, and good for

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<v Speaker 1>our investors. What kind of role do you think investors

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<v Speaker 1>have on keeping the pressure on, especially for younger startups

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<v Speaker 1>where you are more involved, making sure they have diverse teams,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure they have women on the board, making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that women are promoted so that they don't become as

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<v Speaker 1>sort of male dominated as the big tech companies that

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<v Speaker 1>have the power today. It's absolutely critical, Emily, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has to start in the earliest days. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>something where you can check the box right before you

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<v Speaker 1>go public and decide to add, uh, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote diverse member to your board, because it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>required at that point. It really does need to be

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<v Speaker 1>baked into the DNA of the company at the sounding stage.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I'm seeing that happening even in new co

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<v Speaker 1>creation in terms of the first hires, in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>thoughtful founders who recognize the importance of that around the

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<v Speaker 1>board room and around the cap table as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to do it thoughtfully if you wait too long.

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<v Speaker 1>Women make up thirty thirty five percent of employees at

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<v Speaker 1>big tech companies, but it's much smaller when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at those prime technical roles, about of those top tech

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<v Speaker 1>engineering roles, you know it's going to take years, decades

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<v Speaker 1>maybe for some of these bigger companies to change. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to turn the Titanic. How optimistic are you

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<v Speaker 1>for the next generation of bigger tech companies? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>on the right trajectory? You know? Well, speaking of data

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<v Speaker 1>and ten years it was ten years ago when I

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<v Speaker 1>was at Google and they first released their diversity numbers

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<v Speaker 1>when it's specifically when it comes to women in computer

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<v Speaker 1>science and technical roles, and they were dismal and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Following Google, a number of the other large fangs also

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<v Speaker 1>released their numbers, and there were myriad efforts to address

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<v Speaker 1>the gender gap, starting in element free school. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we know now that these kind of biases and self

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<v Speaker 1>perceptions can be formed as early as eighteen months of age.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not something that will move immediately and quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not that easy to generate, you know, multiple

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<v Speaker 1>PhDs overnight. We have to start that early and that young.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to see characters in TV shows that you

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<v Speaker 1>know are excellent engineers and happen to be women, not

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<v Speaker 1>exceptional because they are women. We need to see those

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<v Speaker 1>types of role models on Bloomberg Tech, which you do constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>These this type of representation is absolutely critical and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we'll see that precipitate over time in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the numbers. It won't happen quickly, but it can't

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<v Speaker 1>happen quickly enough. We try, but all of us, even us,

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<v Speaker 1>can certainly do better. I want to ask about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the most rapidly growing parts of the tech economy

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<v Speaker 1>Crypto Web three, for example, do you see um women

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<v Speaker 1>you know, taking a fair share of the pie and

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<v Speaker 1>some of these versioning industries, because I think the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>is that some of these new uh new tech sub

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<v Speaker 1>industries are still quite male dominant. Quickly in many cases

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<v Speaker 1>they are, but there are incredible organizations coming to the table,

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<v Speaker 1>like my BFF that are working to change that, like

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<v Speaker 1>Women in the World, and like our new partner at

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<v Speaker 1>Lux Grace who's focused on Web three among other things.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Tana Shaquire Lux Capital partner, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>bringing your optimism to us. I want to soak a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of that up and take that with me

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of this Internactual Women's Day coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>As Web three is becoming a new focus for many companies.

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<v Speaker 1>One blockchain project known as the Google of DeFi a

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<v Speaker 1>k A. The Graph is gaining momentum. We'll have more

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<v Speaker 1>on that next. This is Bloomberg time for our crypto report.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Russia's invasion of Ukraine and its potential long lasting

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<v Speaker 1>impacts that I want to bring in our next guest,

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<v Speaker 1>he can climb the co founder and head of business

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<v Speaker 1>at Edge and know the t behind the Graph, which

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<v Speaker 1>brands itself as the Google of the defied world. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an indexing and Corey protocol organizing the world's open

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<v Speaker 1>blockchain data and making open data a public good. Taken,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining us. So I'm curious how

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<v Speaker 1>you would describe the mission of the graph and how

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<v Speaker 1>do you make sure it doesn't become a centralized space

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<v Speaker 1>for a space that wants to be decentralized. Absolutely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So the Graph is on a mission to make all

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<v Speaker 1>of the world's public data verifiable UM and the Graph

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<v Speaker 1>is organizing all of on chain Web three data. So

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like what Google does for the traditional web,

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<v Speaker 1>the Graph does for the Web three space. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is a public good and it has been built in

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<v Speaker 1>its decentralized ways. There are many notes around the world

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<v Speaker 1>that operate within the Graph ecosystem and many different contributors,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's no central point of authority within the Graph network. More,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the data then telling you? Taken about sorry shnally,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the data telling you about the what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the macro an environment right now? Obviously we're

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<v Speaker 1>really concerned about what this means for traditional assets. Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of a non traditional assets. Some thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would be a safe haven, but Ashinali was talking about earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been very volatile like everything else. Yeah, so macro

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<v Speaker 1>has definitely been impacting short term trading um. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>been impacting the crypto markets. But in my opinion, that's

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<v Speaker 1>quite short sighted, and I think based on some of

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<v Speaker 1>the unfortunate current events that we're seeing in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very clear why crypto is very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Situations in Ukraine, Russia, Canada, people really can't get acts,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't get money into Ukraine. Money have had to

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<v Speaker 1>flee and leave their belongings at home in Ukraine. In Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>people can't get paid. The Central Bank of Russia might

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<v Speaker 1>also get their assets frozen. And so crypto self sovereignty

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<v Speaker 1>really solves for this. But the markets kind of do

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<v Speaker 1>their thing, and we're really focused on building and so

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<v Speaker 1>the developer activity has not stalled, it's not declined. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually at an all time I and it's growing faster

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<v Speaker 1>than it ever has before. An Electric Capital, they put

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<v Speaker 1>out a dev report that showed over eighteen thou open

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<v Speaker 1>source STAPs joined the space and joined the Web three space.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's up, and that's in line with what we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen within the graph ecosystem. They're over twenty eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>developers building on the graph today. Well as more developers

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<v Speaker 1>build on the graph and as more people, ordinary people

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<v Speaker 1>who have never transacted in bitcoin before or crypto for

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<v Speaker 1>that matter, start to use the cryptocurrencies, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that centralization serves more of a purpose and verification is

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<v Speaker 1>more important. I think decentralization is crucial, So you need

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<v Speaker 1>to decentralize not just ownership, but power, decision making, control,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that should be decentralized. It shouldn't be at

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a platforms um authority, it shouldn't be at

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<v Speaker 1>a platforms and the platform shouldn't be dictating who is

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<v Speaker 1>on the platform, who is allowed to speak on the platform,

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<v Speaker 1>the truth on that platform. I think that centralization is

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<v Speaker 1>very crucial, but transparency, open source, permission list, trust less

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<v Speaker 1>tech is also Those are also core values within Web three.

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<v Speaker 1>But it feels like this is really getting tested, this

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<v Speaker 1>entire notion when you have people being kicked off right,

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<v Speaker 1>you have people like coin ba or exchanges like coin

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<v Speaker 1>based essentially serving as a central mechanism to really police

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<v Speaker 1>behaviors here. How does that test what decentralization means in

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<v Speaker 1>this industry? So I think it's very clear that exchanges

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<v Speaker 1>like coin base and also platforms like open sea are

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<v Speaker 1>that just that their platforms, they're centralized, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's very important to self custody your assets so that

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<v Speaker 1>you have control in the kind of this decentralized way,

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<v Speaker 1>and that way no one can take that away from you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this, the situation that's happening now is triggering

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of memories for a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>have had to flee their countries and they were left

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<v Speaker 1>with nothing. And you know, with crypto, you can take

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<v Speaker 1>it with you so long as you are self custodying

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not leaving that on a centralized exchange. We're

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<v Speaker 1>getting also to a White House executive order on crypto,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's continued to be a lot of uncertainty around

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<v Speaker 1>crypto regulation. What are you bracing for here and what

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<v Speaker 1>would you like to see? Yeah, great question. So this

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<v Speaker 1>executive order is not a huge deal. It's something that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been anticipating for quite some time, and so what

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<v Speaker 1>it is it's expected to kind of instruct agencies to

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<v Speaker 1>study and come up with a plan UM, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that study will likely pick up on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the regulatory themes that the industry has been focused on

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<v Speaker 1>for many months, many years, so like consumer protection, regulating

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<v Speaker 1>securities and UM security exchanges, and then also compliance with

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<v Speaker 1>anti money laundering. So I do think that it's good

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<v Speaker 1>that the administration is starting to study these issues, or

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<v Speaker 1>they're studying these issues further rather than just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to blank it regulate UM, because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that can stifle innovation and kind of push it overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm excited to see more like the knowledgeable

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<v Speaker 1>founders within the web three space and the crypto space

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<v Speaker 1>helped to regulate or help to UM helped to educate

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<v Speaker 1>regulators UM. So yeah, I'm looking speaking of what regulators

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<v Speaker 1>do in the US versus abroad. I mean, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at kind of the ecosystem that exists, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that there is more innovation moving abroad, given you

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<v Speaker 1>know f t X and the Bahamas and you know

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<v Speaker 1>so many companies forming in India and other places around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Yeah, I mean I would like to see

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<v Speaker 1>that regulation stay here in the US. And not move overseas,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I am looking forward to kind of looking

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<v Speaker 1>working with regulators so that we can keep that innovation

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<v Speaker 1>here in a safe way. All right, tnclient engine note

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<v Speaker 1>co founder, thank you for joining us the Google of

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<v Speaker 1>defied check it out. Bumble just released fourth quarter results,

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<v Speaker 1>beating estimates the dating app joining the growing list of

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<v Speaker 1>companies cutting ties with Russia. I want to get the

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<v Speaker 1>latest with evercre I s I N Sweats Cajoria just

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<v Speaker 1>got off the earnings called swats. This is significant for

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<v Speaker 1>Bumble because of their huge subsidiary. But do which is

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<v Speaker 1>big datings I focused on Europe with some users as

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<v Speaker 1>I understand in Russia. How big a deal is this?

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<v Speaker 1>It is so so they actually did this close during

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<v Speaker 1>the call that Russia accounted for about two point eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of their business last year and they are guiding

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<v Speaker 1>the full year revenue growth excluding Russia for full year

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two and that implies about two percent of their business.

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<v Speaker 1>So not a huge piece of the parent company, but

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful exposure for bad which is part of Bumble's business.

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<v Speaker 1>So how much of an impact do you think this

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<v Speaker 1>could have on the business, which, to be fair, has

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<v Speaker 1>been struggling when you look at some of the activity. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me point you to the few things. Core business

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<v Speaker 1>for Bumble actually seems to be running very smoothly. So

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<v Speaker 1>let me give you three data points. One is their

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<v Speaker 1>full Yer twenty two guide if you exclude the impact

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<v Speaker 1>from Russia, is very very strong for Bumble app, which

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<v Speaker 1>has very small exposure to Russia itself, So not but

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<v Speaker 1>do but the Bumble app the core app expects their

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<v Speaker 1>growth rate to be about thirty four thirty six percent

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<v Speaker 1>year over year, meaningfully about whether Street was. That implies

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<v Speaker 1>that their fair growth or the net editions in their

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<v Speaker 1>bears will be greater in two than Street was not expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>That third is that if you exclude the impact from Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>they expect hundred basis points of IBADA margin expansion, so

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<v Speaker 1>the revenue growth would be about IBADA margins to expand

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<v Speaker 1>hundred hundred pips year over year, and bears are growing

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<v Speaker 1>at a very healthy club. So the core business excluding

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<v Speaker 1>Russia for Bumble seems to be firing on all cylinders. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you include Russia, then yes, they guided down for

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<v Speaker 1>the full year because they're closing in their operations. They

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<v Speaker 1>have about a hundred twenty people. They're closing their operations

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<v Speaker 1>in Russia completely UM, so they will face some headwinds there,

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<v Speaker 1>but the core business seems to be running fairly smoothly.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's your take on how the macro economic uncertainty

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<v Speaker 1>could impact consumer behavior whether or not people want to

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<v Speaker 1>day and buy those Bumble subscriptions. So there are two things.

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<v Speaker 1>The demographic and geographic exposure that Bado has is meaningfully

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<v Speaker 1>different from that of Bumble, So the Bumble app users

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<v Speaker 1>are different there in English speaking countries and in mostly

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<v Speaker 1>the developed world, and they're seeing less of an omicron

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<v Speaker 1>headwind or an impact because of the development of video

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<v Speaker 1>and audio, etcetera. And in fact, their full year twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two guide does not have any meaningful tail wind of

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<v Speaker 1>reopening economies. That's it's a different story for Buddoo altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>But do is it more in the emerging market countries

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<v Speaker 1>including Russia? Um, And they're seeing a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>of an impact from COVID now. They do expect as

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<v Speaker 1>economies open up, they should benefit from reopening economy, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is not big in their guidance. A little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an omicron headwind for bad but less so for

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<v Speaker 1>Bumble is this kind of a bummer for Bumble given

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<v Speaker 1>that you know we're on the tail and hopefully of

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<v Speaker 1>this pandemic which you know, I imagine would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a big tail wind for for Bumble and and in

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<v Speaker 1>person dating it should continue to be a tail wind.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we actually look at what Matched, their

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<v Speaker 1>biggest competitor is saying about Omicron as well as COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>there is meaningful there's reason to believe that there is

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful upset to Matches guide. If the recovery in Asia,

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<v Speaker 1>for example Japan, which is their number two market is

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<v Speaker 1>is better than expected. The same thing applies here for Bumble.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if the reopening UH is better than expected,

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<v Speaker 1>they could have a much meaning that they could have

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<v Speaker 1>upset to their guidance, that it could be actually beneficial

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<v Speaker 1>to Bumber. I Swazekajoria Abricre, thanks for breaking it down.

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