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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bow Bishop and Nathan Zigura.

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Speaker 1: All right off and running here on a first Friday

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Speaker 1: edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. Merely Bow the great Z

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Speaker 1: and betwixt in my instant Yes z in a fabulous

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Speaker 1: rookie running back to your own forward. How you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 1: We're doing while man, First of all, this is the

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Browns. Congratulations on getting drafted. What was

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Speaker 1: that like? Hold on? Hold on? What my man's it?

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Speaker 1: Here in a Bearcat hoodie? He is in a Bearcat

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Speaker 1: hood a beautiful hoodie, which that was of course you

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Speaker 1: played at Cincinnati last year. I am here in a

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame hoodie that was given to me tangentially because

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Speaker 1: of someone you probably knew it Cincinnati and Marcus Freeman.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that was my guy in Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: one of my so one of my buddies was is

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Speaker 1: and so this is hoodie on hoodie crime here and

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Speaker 1: they gave you a terrible hoodie. You think losers man

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Speaker 1: did win? They did. They did. That's valid in the

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Speaker 1: in the in the you know, they used to always

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Speaker 1: tease that Marcus was and Luke and Marcus were very

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Speaker 1: very close, obviously and you know that, but they used

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Speaker 1: be careful though, talking and telling that to j Okay, Well, no,

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Speaker 1: did win. They played and they won the game to

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Speaker 1: the victors go to spoil. Yes, absolutely, So how's this

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Speaker 1: spend Man has been great? It's actually been surprising, honestly. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, coming from Cincinnati, everybody Cincinnati fans so kind

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Speaker 1: to somebody about that. Yah, we're clearly better. We beat

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Speaker 1: that's right. He's good, though good, he's greatly good, bigger fans,

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Speaker 1: it's very good. But it's good enough to beat the Browns,

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Speaker 1: that's true. So you've been in town? How long now?

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Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of work. You're going into

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Speaker 1: Alabama to Cincinnati. UM, in terms of what coach Fick

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Speaker 1: a whole lot from your time at Cincinnati. How would

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Speaker 1: need is seventy seven, literally on the freeway. It's literally

427
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: on the freeway eight my house. That's it. That's how

428
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 1: you go. So it clicks state school. But still some

429
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 1: wait about me. They've intentionally it's possible. I said, let

430
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,479
Speaker 1: me see her, let me see your phone. What are

431
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: you doing? So I pull up the phone. I said,

432
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 1: if you checked this, do you do you have the

433
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: avoid freeways? They both look at me as if I

434
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: have just now started speaking Greek. Unaware of any sort

435
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 1: of ability to avoid certain things, I said, I said,

436
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: un where are your He goes, well, I don't even

437
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: what what do you mean? What you know? Because now

438
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: they're trying to what happened? We don't know, I don't understand,

439
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: so I click on the thing, you know where the

440
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: icon that looks like a settings. Click on it. Sure enough,

441
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: avoid freeways. So I have a buddy whose wife will

442
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,479
Speaker 1: not drive. If I wouldn't have stopped them. But how

443
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: did they get them? Well, the good part is most

444
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: of the West they didn't need it for. It wasn't

445
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 1: really until they needed it in South Bend that they

446
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: started using it. They didn't need it. They know the route.

447
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: There's one way, so they knew that the way, so

448
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: they started using it in South Bend. But my god,

449
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: can you imagine if I sent them on their way

450
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: this morning with an avoid highways driving miles back to Montana,

451
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: they would have showed up next Tuesday. But they had

452
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: to have put that on. That is not somebody. Somebody did.

453
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: Whether it's whether my uncle did or they did. Somebody

454
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 1: put it. Uncle had no idea where the settings was.

455
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: My dad clearly didn't either. My dad did not even

456
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: have that it activated on his maps, also did not have.

457
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: Now all that being said, they were able between the

458
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: two of them to fell a tree yesterday, a rather

459
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: large tree that I needed to cut down, and I

460
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: couldn't do like me and my father. But they were

461
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: able to do that, mostly him. They were able to

462
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: do that. But so I think they probably are winning

463
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: that that feels like a more important skill. No, it doesn't,

464
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: I guess maybe not in the don't you say to me,

465
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: all right, what's more important? You're here and you have

466
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: to get to Los Angeles? Okay, you're able to do

467
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: it easily, Or that they can stand in a forest

468
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: and chop down a tree, like I've got a lot

469
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: of trees. I think you're winning by actually being able

470
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: to navigate somewhere perfectively. So I can't even a fathom

471
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: how they went. I don't either. He said that they

472
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: went like through downtown. They made a left on like Broadway.

473
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: Is there a Broadway downtown? I have no idea. I

474
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: don't go down often. And then somehow they ended up

475
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: like buy a canal, But that canal would be like

476
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: under the four eighty bridge, right, yeah, yeah, And then

477
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: they went along the river north south. Let's just have

478
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: stopped at the movie theater taken in Doctor Strange. I'm

479
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 1: right up by place. I was thinking to myself, like,

480
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: all right, like the rock hall is right off the freeway.

481
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: Why don't you just get right back on the freeway.

482
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: You you have, it's an effort to not end up

483
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: on a free Yes, you have to try not to. Yes,

484
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: you'd have to try not to, or have Google Maps

485
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: that drives you around it all. I really think that

486
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: a huge, a huge miss was you should have had

487
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: them take boots e everywhere and a camera. Those two

488
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: boots the unleashed in Cleveland, well, the one and a camera,

489
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: but also what you would need one more component And

490
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm only leaving Kingsley out just because he would he

491
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: would not have a whole lot to say in this situation.

492
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: The the other component would be black Cobra who knows

493
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: how to get to a lot of these places, yelling

494
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: at them for not going the right way, and them

495
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: defending it by you by looking at their technology which

496
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: is not right. In complete technology that plus boots in

497
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 1: the back sold you're on, let's do it. I mean,

498
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: I feel like that is that should be greenlit immediately.

499
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: I agree. It's really great. So was the stay overall.

500
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: It's great. It was great. It was awesome having them,

501
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. Meant a lot to Kingsley that they

502
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: were here and um and and it was great. It

503
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: was my uncle Softens Dad. So you know that great

504
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: running buddy. He's a great running buddy. Brings it down

505
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: a notch, you know, really brings it down and not

506
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: mellows it out. Mellows a very mellowing effect, a relaxing, mellowing,

507
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: happy glazed effect if you will at times. So that

508
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: is that's what I would say. Was the biggest, the

509
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: biggest help. But it was great. It's great seeing him.

510
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: They drove a long way for five days, but it

511
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: was it was good seeing him. It was great. And

512
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: so on the head of back, they're trying to get

513
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: to Ames, Iowa today, so that's where they're at on

514
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: that front. You have a nice to night. Do you

515
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: do anything cool? Yeah, Miss uh ms kays pops out

516
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: of town. So we had a took a Jack and

517
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Uh out to Pony Boys, which is a new place

518
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: in your grin falls quite good. Mexican tacos. It's a

519
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: little taco Tuesday at Pony Boys is great. They have

520
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: a delight. They had a duck called Fit to Molly.

521
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: What a bold choice that is so good. A duck

522
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: coned Fite to Molly. It was great. Little Ancho Chili sauce.

523
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: It was great. They had an octopus and triazo appetizer

524
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: that was to die for a little honey hob and

525
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: narrow margarita. No big deal. God, they've got a great jackalope.

526
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: Is the the mascot. The jackalope feature prominently throughout the restaurant. Yeah,

527
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: but you have to be able to buy a hat

528
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: with that jackal opon it. I'd like to. I'd like

529
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: a quarter zip with it on it. They also have

530
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: a T shirt that I'm gonna have to come home

531
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: with next time that says Tacosaurus on it because I'm

532
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: a taco source. Yeah. I like the idea of this

533
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: jackal open a hat. Yeah, what about on a quarters

534
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: or maybe that'll be the jackalopali ja black hoodie. Yep,

535
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: Jackalope Cleveland Brown's Daily staff. I like that. I like that.

536
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: That's the show. That's the show, and then all day. No,

537
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: you can't have one. Sorry, go by the way. Update

538
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: last night, before I'm getting ready to this event with

539
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: with Coach and a B, I go down and is

540
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: this a zoom event or in we're back in person

541
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: on the event? Um. I went down and uh and

542
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: and checked it on our good friend, Mr Mellon, and

543
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: he said that many people had told him of you know,

544
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: what had happened on Brown's Tale. But you know, Brad

545
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: is a guy. You got to help him with the

546
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: technology a lot like my dad. So he's like, how

547
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: do I watch? I want to see this? So I

548
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: pull up Brown's Daily. I get to I think it's

549
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: the sixteen minute market starts on Monday Show. It's about

550
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: ten minutes our discussion of it. He was loving it.

551
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: He was in that. He goes, how do I clip this?

552
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: How I need to send this to everybody? Like he

553
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: was so excited? Are you telling me that we spent

554
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: the better part of seven months wooing him with the

555
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: Brand Mellon Pursuit of Excellent award, wooing him and talking

556
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: of his great this and he heard none of it. No,

557
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: he heard of it, but he himself did not hear

558
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: the gustress with which we speak of his voice. Well,

559
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, the guy's an absolute legend. Um.

560
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: So he watched it in his office. He's keeping the

561
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: window open and keeping it cute up because he really

562
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: wants to sit show coach when he the next time

563
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: comes in there. So when I saw coaches said, listen,

564
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: Melon's got you gotta watch the video we talked about

565
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: Melon's prank. Goes, oh I heard about it. I'm like,

566
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: oh you did, and he goes, yeah, it was a

567
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: good one. Hunt. I said that, well, it was a

568
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: good one. But I'm and I don't know if he

569
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: was waiting for me to be like, well, you know now,

570
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: can we now? Wonderful time for me to actually get

571
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: what he deserved, get the hoodie? But I think I

572
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: think there's like a tension in the air where it

573
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: was like he knew that. I wanted to be like, well,

574
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: but he was like, don't you dare ask for it,

575
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: because then you can't have it. So I just stayed silent.

576
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: The games he's playing with that hoodie just are diabolical.

577
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: It is listen, there's a lot going on. It's a

578
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: sphere of influence. It's you know, he's got the power

579
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: when you have listen, it's about supply and demand, demand

580
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: through the roof, supply controlled by one. Let me ask

581
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: you some monopoly. Let me ask you this. All the

582
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: power controls all. Let me ask you this. Who do

583
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: you do you think he came up with the hoodie

584
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: or did who How did the hoodie come to be?

585
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: That's a great question, that's a great Let me, I'm

586
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: a text Brad say we can get him in here. Yeah,

587
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: see me get brand in here. I'd be very curious

588
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: to know how the genesis of the hoodie, how it

589
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: how it came to life? Was this a k s

590
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: ask or was it something? Because I've never seen it

591
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: until Stefanski was hearing it. Well, I know the equipment

592
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: staff had them, but I don't know. We never saw

593
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: them in him. Like if I would have saw Melan

594
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: walking around that in here, I would have said, wow,

595
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: what crafted for them? To thank them? This is a

596
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: great question and one that we I hope we'll get answered.

597
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: This is why I'm here. Anybody who can who talks

598
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: to Brad, the people who listen to the show and

599
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: then tell Brad what we say on it. I've texted him,

600
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: but I need we all need to be a barage.

601
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: You need to text him too. We need him in STU.

602
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: You practices over as far as I understand. Is that

603
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: practice over? Yes? Done? Okay, Yes it is fantastic. Look

604
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: at that sultry. Sorry it's going on, guys, I'm sorry,

605
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: don't be timid. Don't it's just just clunky that don't.

606
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: It's just don't you think there should be an just

607
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: like a light the button that you soft pushed it,

608
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: says on Off cough. This is the race. We got

609
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: our guy following us around our shadow here. He knows,

610
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: he knows. Yeah, I mean you tell me. Can you

611
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: hear this? Yeah? I can hear you see, he can

612
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: hear that. I mean it's supposed to be silent. It's

613
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: not supposed to be obvious. Nathan, I have to cough,

614
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna like, yeah, no, that's not how it works.

615
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: But Gibbey designed it and he loves it. What what's

616
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: he doing today in a day like today? A little chili?

617
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: Hopefully you got to go some morning. He was hoping

618
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: to golf in the morning. He's moving in for the

619
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: he's moving in for the art show. By the way,

620
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm told that they're actually and I'm not kidding right

621
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: now when I say this thing. There may be consequences

622
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: for his actions yesterday? What part? Oh for the food?

623
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: Oh God, really, I think really, I think so. There

624
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: should be consequences for him printing everything in landscape. I

625
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: don't know why he why do. I don't know what.

626
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: Do you know how hard this is to navigate? It's impossible,

627
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: it's impossible to na So he gives us, folks, He

628
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: gives us this print out with Seth Walder coming up. Later,

629
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: he gives us a print out in landscape print Nobody

630
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: uses lands nobody. Do you know how hard this is

631
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: to get through? No? They don't even like landscape for

632
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: photos anymore. Do you try to take a picture of

633
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: your lady friend for the Graham, You know what she's

634
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: gonna say, get it up and down? No, no, landscape.

635
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: You said it, that's right, I did. I don't even

636
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637
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643
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647
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Speaker 1: I just saw this from Awful announcing Dan Orlovsky sticking

671
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Speaker 1: with the ESPN despite Fox's pursuit. He will replace Brian

672
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: Greasy in the number two NFL booth with Steve Leady

673
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: and Lewis Riddick. Which is a limited, very limited schedule, right,

674
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: just a couple of games probably, yeah, and then well

675
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: in the future. They've announced now that there will be

676
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: multiple Monday night football games like a handful of times

677
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: going forward, so maybe that will help him there. I

678
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: love Dan. I think he's great. I remember having him

679
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: back on the show before he had even started to

680
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: do much, when he was really just doing his YouTube videos,

681
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 1: and he's part laid that into a very good career

682
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: for himself, and he's he earned it, he deserves it,

683
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: and he's great. We yeah, I had I had played

684
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: with two guys who knew all. I had done radio

685
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: with two guys who knew him in Bobby Carpenter and

686
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: then James. They both knew him from his time in

687
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: the pros, and so I remember just watching his YouTube

688
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: stuff and go, he's killing this. Yeahs. He just had

689
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: a presence to him that has been obvious ever since.

690
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: He was able to explain the game in a way

691
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: that it's easily digestible, and you're getting great information from

692
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: him when he does it, so very happy from I'm

693
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: curious though, like, where do you go there? Right? If

694
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: you're Dan Orlovsky and and I believe what I'm about

695
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: say is Tron upward mobility? Right? And now you can say, well,

696
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman's at ESPN, so does he have any upward

697
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: mobility there? Maybe not, um, but I'm guessing ESPN, because

698
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: of the variety of programs that he would be able

699
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: to participate in, is probably able to compensate him better,

700
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: and he's going to be able to do more. Like

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00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: if he goes to Fox and he's just the number two, right,

702
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: which is probably best case scenario, But eventually your best

703
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: case scenario is number three because Brady is gonna be one.

704
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, it feels like it's going to be too

705
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: What else is he doing for Fox? Here's when he

706
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: had this is the tricky thing, and I've seen a

707
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: lot of guys try to navigate this um esp You're

708
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: discovered by ESPN, and then everybody wants you, right, I

709
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: mean this happens across the board UM and usually the market.

710
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: The networks that want you were going to compensate you

711
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: more richly than ESPN is going to compensate you. That's

712
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: the general rule of thumb in the biz. And they're

713
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: gonna have you. You're gonna work less and make more.

714
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: That's the way that it works when you Usually if

715
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: you if you have a star and at the at

716
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: the right time, you jump off of ESPN and go

717
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: to one of the networks, you will make more in

718
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: work less. The tricky thing is you have to make

719
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: damn sure you land the plane at the new place,

720
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: and you have to make sure that they've got your

721
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: back and your development, because otherwise you can be evaporated

722
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: in a blink, just completely disappear gone. So that's the

723
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: thing that's really tricky. So my guess is what Dan

724
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: Wade at this point in his career is it's probably

725
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: better for me now to be on ESPN to be

726
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: on the NFL. I've to pop on with grainy in

727
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: the morning and have some fun there and still do

728
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: some NFL and maybe make less work more. He's from Connecticut,

729
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: so that a lot of people that bothers having to

730
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: live in Connecticut bothers not bothering him, um, versus going

731
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: to as you just put it, you go to Fox,

732
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: you do NFL, maybe you do a little college too,

733
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: but you end up down on a pecking order, and

734
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: the reality is that he's probably never going to be

735
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: on a number one team, no matter how good he is.

736
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's in the cards, probably considering who's

737
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: getting one gigs now and the amount of money that

738
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: those people get, you have to have the playing resume,

739
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: it feels like to be able to get one of

740
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: those jobs. So I think he made pretty smart decision.

741
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: So yes, I do think that he made a pretty

742
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: smart decision. And I think the opportunity, you know, maybe

743
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: ESPN gets to playoff games on a wild card weekend

744
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: or something, he gets an opportunity to do one of them. Um.

745
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: So I think your talent can overcome, right, but they're

746
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: probably to your point is there is some level of

747
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: a ceiling four example, you know, Charles Davis doesn't necessarily

748
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: have the playing resume. But he is just great, and

749
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: he and I an Eagle have moved their way up

750
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: and he's now, you know, number two at CBS, behind

751
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: Nance and Romo. Would that team ever be number one? No? No,

752
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: I mean Nance can't do it forever, although we will

753
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: because he's great, but at some point, like there will

754
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 1: need to be, they'll fine the next guy at some point. Yeah,

755
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: but not anytime soon. And I do think one thing

756
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: with Charles is it's probably the perfect storm and that

757
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: not only is he really good, but he also was

758
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: got paired with another guy who's excellent in an Eagle,

759
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: and so the two of them. But yeah, they're at

760
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: their ceiling, which is a great ceiling, and he's the

761
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: nicest dude, the nicest guy ever out of nowhere sent

762
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: me the nicest text to congratulate. I am not at

763
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 1: all surprised, like like that aptation is twenty years old.

764
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: He's been that good of a dude for twenty year

765
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: so that's incredibly not surprising in anyway. Um, but yeah,

766
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: like they're at their ceiling, Like charl is never going

767
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: to ascend at the number one chair. I don't think

768
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: it's CBS because of what how that job has changed

769
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: in a way. Collins was lucky he got in when

770
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: he did because he was a good NFL player. But

771
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't a great NFL player. Um, but he's really

772
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: good at it and so his timing was good. I mean,

773
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: he was was pretty darn good. He's a pretty good player. Yeah.

774
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: But like I think, when you think of the eighties Bengals,

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00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's the first guy that comes

776
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: to mind. You think of Moonos. Do you think of Boomers?

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00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: You think Ikey Woods, you know Tim Crumry, you think

778
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: of those guys. I don't know how far do you

779
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: go down before you think of Chris collins Worth, Kenny Anderson.

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00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: Let's look, let's look look him up. Shorter career than

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00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: I would have thought. Played from eight one eight, three

782
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: time Pro bowler, pretty good, pretty good. He had four

783
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: thousand yards seasons. He had another season with nine yards.

784
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: So was he on either of the Super Bowl playing teams?

785
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: The first both? Well, eighty nine was the last one, right,

786
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't that have been? Would that have been on me?

787
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: Look that's that's John Taylor. No, that's the beatdown. It's

788
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Speaker 1: eight though, right, wasn't season. That was his last year,

789
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: so his first year, and so both of his first

790
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Speaker 1: and last year he played in Yeah in the Night,

791
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: Pretty good, Pretty good. Yeah. But I think now what

792
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: that job is is you are kissing, kissing baby, shaking hands.

793
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: You're the face of network. So you you need to

794
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: be a romo. Look at them Romo man Manning has

795
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: been coveted forever, Brady, like you need to have I

796
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: wonder what You're totally right, But what's interesting to me

797
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: about it is, let's take a guy like our guy,

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00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: the Haff for example, who is a first ballot Hall

799
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: of Famer, is as good at his position. He's phenomenal,

800
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: and he was hilarious last night when he was redecorating

801
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: there in his room. He's phenomenal on TV. He feels

802
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: like he's somebody. He has the playing cash a right,

803
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: he's got the personality, the presence, all of it that

804
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: he could be a number one guy someday for sure.

805
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: But he also did the studio stuff, and sometimes you

806
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: get pigeonholed. It's like, well he's a studio guy, you know,

807
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: And I don't know what's the better gig? Would you

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00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: rather be stray hand or Howie Long or would you

809
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: rather be Phil Sims and Romo all these years. Just

810
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: recently the game crew money got bigger, to the point

811
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: where it's sound really really big. But for the longest

812
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: point it was probably negligible. The difference between what Bradshaw

813
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: made and when Aikman made it's probably similar, and it

814
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: was probably a better gig to be the studio guy

815
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: didn't have to travel. I would think, yeah, yeah, I

816
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: think our long show look at him, hour long show

817
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: that is completely researched for you, scripted out for you people.

818
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: How much speaking time do you have to say? Your

819
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: requirements are very little. You will get to make very well,

820
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: thoroughly researched points that are provided to you, and you

821
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: have your own knowledge of the game. But I mean

822
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: they can that is a very easy gig for them.

823
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 1: That's probably now you need to have the natural Crisbin

824
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: all that, but it's probably as much of a mail

825
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: at end job as there is if you could if

826
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: you wanted it to be. Yeah, you know, if you

827
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: had the natural talent. But in terms of you're not

828
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: having to do a whole lot of homework on that watch.

829
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying the nuance will be provided. Well,

830
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: because they're and they're not even getting into the details, right,

831
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean you're going through the whole slate of games

832
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: on on on, talking about like CBS, that's an hour

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00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: long shot, correct, one hour, one hour. They have hits,

834
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: remote hits all of their games, so that takes up

835
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: commercial doing four or five segments. One segment at least

836
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: is all just hits. Commercial James Brown throwing two hits,

837
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: throwing to people, you have commercials probably take up my guess,

838
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: as they do forty one of the sixty minutes, so

839
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be forty one minutes of conscient Probably eight

840
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: of it is live hits at the venue. So now

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00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: you're talking about half hour of content, and then they

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00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: do the half times right and split amongst seven guys. Yeah, right, Yeah,

843
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: it's a good gig. Four minutes and thirty seconds a guy. Yeah,

844
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: that's a that's a very a very good gig. But

845
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Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy for Dan that he's sticking. I

846
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: think it's a good fit. I think probably the best

847
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: fit is for him to stay right where he is

848
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: at ESPN. I think that's the best use of his talents.

849
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, um, what do you what do you make

850
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: of of what Good Morning Football is going to do? Here?

851
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: K is out. I knew that no replacement still no

852
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: replacement for Nate permanent. Half of that staff needs to

853
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: be replaced. Schreeger's information guy Kyle is the engine that's there.

854
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: But they got they got too too big time hires

855
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: that need to be made before next season. And that

856
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: is a show that I think is significantly a bigger

857
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: deal in the NFL than it is outside of it.

858
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Clearly yes, in terms of in the buildings. So do

859
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: you think that they have Jane Slater I saw has

860
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: done a show. Has Colleen Wolf done any yet? I

861
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: haven't seen. I haven't seen. It's gonna be interesting, I mean,

862
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: and as k announced what she's doing, yet she's not.

863
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: She's there. Was all a lot of about Thursday Night

864
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: Football with Amazon, but I have not seen. I imagine

865
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: that would be one hell of a gig. Oh yeah,

866
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: I would think so one day a week. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

867
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: uh this just happened the last ten seconds. Yellowstone season five,

868
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: premiering November on the Paramount Network. Nom somebody tell Drew

869
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: very excited to be very excited. Dolphins that day that weekend.

870
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: Just okay, can I say something right now? Please? We

871
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: don't need that then, no, save it for give me

872
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: like February February twelve. Yep, we don't need it then.

873
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: And on a Sunday. Are they gonna go one a week? Yeah,

874
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: they go weekly, So it'll drop Sunday at nine. Give

875
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: me one a week starting the Sunday after the Super Bowl.

876
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl lens guess, but here's yellows. Sundays aren't dead.

877
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't mind you. You know what that man right

878
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: there did, Yeah, you got your face? Yes, how great

879
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: is it? Let me ask you? Do you feel compelled?

880
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: So we have here And it's also with the games

881
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: and everybody you know, as tickets should sign up for

882
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: facial recognition software that allows you to access in this

883
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: case are building with your face or in the case

884
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: of First Energy Stadium with your face. You can get

885
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: right through the lines about how fast is you look

886
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: at It's like, yeah, it's you, here's your tickets, boom, goodbye.

887
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: I feel and I don't know if you do, but

888
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: I feel compelled when I go to that facial recognition

889
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: thing to give it Like a little blue steel, I

890
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: have to give it or a magnum. I can't just

891
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't just kind of give it like a yeah

892
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, no, I yeah, I think you want to

893
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: leave an impression. It wasn't like no, it was it

894
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: was a gaze, a loving gaze. Do you give it

895
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: anything kindor or do you just go in there normal

896
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: like I I'm being serious, like I have to go

897
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: and I go like you give it a little look, No,

898
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: I just give make eye contact with the camera, you know,

899
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: that intimate moment between you and technology. Yeah, that's that's

900
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: all I do, man, And that's it. The blue steel though,

901
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: that's that's definitely a move. I got to got to

902
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: give that blue steel. Well you've got you just wanted to, like,

903
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, even forbidden. You give it like a normal face,

904
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: and it's just like I don't even recognize you like that.

905
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: How hurtful would that be? So I gotta give it

906
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: like a blue seal. Though, Is it only the blue

907
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: steel or do you you know want I never see.

908
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: I try to give it like a little smolder. If

909
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good, you know, I'll give a little smile,

910
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: you know, wake up in the morning, I'm feeling good,

911
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: feeling feeling energized. You know, just are you doing the

912
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: cold shower chase one of bitch? Is that why you're

913
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: so energized? I'm sorry, are you cold shower? Is that

914
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: why you're so energized? No, I should try it, but

915
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, so you go warm shower, then the last

916
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: minute you go cold, just cold. It doesn't be freezing,

917
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: just cold until the voices in your head start talking

918
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: to and then you leave and you feel energested. Listen

919
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: to them. Try tomorrow morning. I'll let you know. I

920
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: said I was gonna, but I keep forgetting. I keep forgetting.

921
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: I have to do it now every show I have to.

922
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm not even kidding. I love it.

923
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: And apparently my buddy Beatbox ak hater Box has told

924
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: me there's actual science that supports that this is it's

925
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: good for your body. Well, science is the kid doing it.

926
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't know the kids doing it, That's what I

927
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: want to know. I feel like old showers. Se he

928
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: wins it everything. I don't think I think he winna.

929
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: We'll ask, we'll get a kid what he thinks, get

930
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: some verification. He might like it because it was the

931
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: idea is a Michigan is from a Michigan man, right,

932
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: and he himself is a Michigan man. He isn't, in

933
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: fact all right, Seth Walder coming up next to ESPN

934
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: uh he did NFL season projections, when loss records, playoffs,

935
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl chances from the Football Power Index. He joins us.

936
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Cleveland Brown's Daily fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland

937
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Speaker 1: Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland. A lot of bad advice

938
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Speaker 1: out there about gambling, from secret methods to picking lottery

939
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940
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Speaker 1: mists can lose your money and get you a lot

941
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942
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943
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Speaker 1: com And now heading out on the hotline for visitor goododdy.

944
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: Seth Waller, ESPN sports analytics expert, his ESPN Football Power

945
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: Index out now at ESPN dot com. That doesn't sound.

946
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: I feel like we'reetting an echo. We got Seth you there,

947
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here. Okay, we have Seth? Okay, very good?

948
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: Do we have? Does do you hearing the seat? Yes? Yes,

949
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: you're hearing us too. Okay, all right, Well with those things.

950
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,479
Speaker 1: We're big bees. We're gonna battle through it. Seth, Let's

951
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: go through this. Let's start here before we get into

952
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: where we are and all of it. Give the folks

953
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: out there what this, how you come up with it,

954
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: what goes into it, the process behind it? Yeah, sure,

955
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: and this is this has changed. We have a new

956
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: process this year, so happy to talk about that Football

957
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Power Index. The idea is to predictively rank team strength

958
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: for all thirty two teams in the NFL and then

959
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: use that to form the basis of projections where we

960
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: simulate out the season you know, ten thousand times and

961
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: determine the probabilities of each team you know, winning their division,

962
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: winning the super Bowl, average number of wins, the in

963
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: the preseason. The way this works is we use a

964
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: variety of factors to determine how good these teements. So

965
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: we look at past performance by that you know, by

966
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 1: that team. We look at the individual players that are

967
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: that are on that team. We use several different rating

968
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: systems there to assess the quality of their non quarterbacks.

969
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: We have a specific quarterback predictive model, so we're looking

970
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: at their path uh expected points at it per play,

971
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: and we're using that to determine how good we think

972
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: that they are all together. And then there's a little

973
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: bit of a coach factor if you're maintaining your coach

974
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: or or you know, going through a coaching change, that

975
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: can affect things too. So put that all together and

976
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: that is what gives us these these strength ratings. And

977
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 1: then as we go through the season, it updates every

978
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: week is you know, new piece of information. How did

979
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: you play, did you beat expectations? Who did you play against?

980
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: And and how efficient were you? And that's how the

981
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: ratings and projections moved throughout the year. Alright, so let's

982
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: start with the Browns. What do you see for the

983
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: Browns here in So we have the Browns as the

984
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: tenth best team, and I want to talk about their

985
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: rating because it's obviously a unique situation I think we have.

986
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: Uh no one knows is exactly what we're talking about

987
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and that drives so much of how good

988
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: we think a team is. So how the model, how

989
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: the model sees it, and then you know, we can

990
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: adjust how we think. It gives the Browns a full

991
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: season of Deshaun Watson um and it puts them at

992
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: tenth and doing So however, I will say that one

993
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: of the things that goes into our predictive quarterback model, Uh,

994
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: it looks at it if you didn't play last season,

995
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: it assumes that something has gone very poorly for you,

996
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: either you have been hurt all year or you are

997
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: not good enough to get on the field. Now, Deshaun

998
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: watsons in a is in a kind of different category

999
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: right and still has twenty two civil lawsuits you know,

1000
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: of women accusing him of inappropriate sexual conduct during massages,

1001
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: and that might that might affect his suspension. Uh. And

1002
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: so we're assuming a sort of like depressed level of

1003
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's skill, but for or um, but for a

1004
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: full a full season. I'm not got like seventeen games

1005
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: because anyone can't hurt. So what's what's the truth? I don't,

1006
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, I don't It's hard to know. Maybe a

1007
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: better Watson, but fewer games played might and gets you

1008
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: too roughly the same conclusion. But that is how we

1009
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: come to that number. That's sort of the way the

1010
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: model is handling that situation. And we have the other

1011
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: thing that we're dealing with here, and I'm curious how

1012
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: you guys dealt with it. Um, I guess as you

1013
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: leave them off, but we feels like Jadavian Clowney, We'll

1014
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: be back here at some point. There's been a lot

1015
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: of whispers of Vin Dominican sue and to that end,

1016
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of a pretty big name free

1017
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: agents that are out there. How do you deal with that?

1018
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: You just look at it is this is the roster,

1019
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: as the one that stands right now for the Browns. Yeah,

1020
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: this is the roster, and I all say that even

1021
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: extends to one where I think pretty clearly someone that

1022
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: won't be on the team. I mean, Baker Mayfield is

1023
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: right now the second best quarterback on Cleveland, and so

1024
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: it sees Daker Mayfield is the backup quarterback. And as

1025
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: you progress through the seas and the likelihood of injury increases,

1026
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: and so you have a hot weight is given to

1027
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: that backup quarterback. Um, so that is one area where

1028
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: probably it's a small factor, maybe slightly overweighting Cleveland because

1029
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: of that. I uh yeah. But to your question, though,

1030
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: anyone not on the roster is not going to be

1031
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: considered even if it's like oh they're likely coming back

1032
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: or uh like a Clowney, which would help um, know

1033
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: that we don't assume that anyone will be there when

1034
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: you take so you have the Browns is the tenth

1035
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: best team when you go and look at now the

1036
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: model you play it out, where are the Browns finish

1037
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: in terms of record and how does that rank amongst

1038
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: the league? So they're obviously in a very competitive division.

1039
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: We put them at nine point six wins on average

1040
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: sort of mean outcome, and we give them the best

1041
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: chance to win the division. So it's a it's a

1042
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: there are a very narrow favorite. It makes sense. I mean, look,

1043
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: I think Cleveland. You look at the rest of the

1044
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: roster and there's obviously a lot of pieces to like.

1045
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know that offensive line will

1046
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: support whosever is that quarterback? You have some stars on defense,

1047
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: So it's easy to see I think why Cleveland, God strength,

1048
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: It just so so much depends on the quarterback. But yes,

1049
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: thirty chance to win the division, A very narrow favorite

1050
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: over Baltimore and Cincinnati, with Pittsburgh way back there. Um,

1051
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: and then we're looking at a fifty seven percent chance

1052
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs overall. You know, as I'm going

1053
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: through this is yeah, and so do I A lot

1054
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: of fascinating stuff here, Seth. One of the things that

1055
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: that's jumping out to me is um that you know

1056
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: when you do the projected winds. And one of the

1057
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: things we've talked about is it feels like, for Nathan

1058
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: and ice perspective, we cannot recall a time where the

1059
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: conferences were so disproportionately slanted in one direction. The a

1060
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: f C seemingly so much stronger and deeper than the

1061
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: NFC um and that is reflected in a lot of

1062
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: these rankings in terms of the NFC teams with wind totals,

1063
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: and that the bottom of the NFC is a lot

1064
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: bigger than the bottom of the a f C um.

1065
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: Did that play out the way that we kind of

1066
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: think it would in in in your index? So I

1067
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: share that perspective with you guys, but I I feel

1068
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: like out to be less a less of a disparity

1069
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: than I thought it would like we have if you like,

1070
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: our top five teams are Buffalo, Green, Day, the Rams, Chiefs, Bocks.

1071
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean that's three NFC teams and we have Dallas

1072
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: at six, So that's four of the top six are

1073
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: in the NFC, which which kind of shocked me. Now

1074
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of teams that you can

1075
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: make cases for that could really jump up. The Chargers,

1076
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: the Colts, the Browns, the Broncos, the Ravens, like all

1077
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: those teams. It's not that the Bengals. They were in

1078
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year. I didn't even mention them.

1079
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: It's not that hard for them to I think to

1080
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: imagine those teams jumping up into an elite sphere. But

1081
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: I think it's actually a little more especially the Brady

1082
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: coming back, I think that that did shift things of

1083
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: shift things a bit um. I think it's a little

1084
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: more balanced than I originally anticipated it would be. That's

1085
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: interesting because you feel like the number of legitimate Super

1086
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: Bowl contenders in the a f C, as we've talked about,

1087
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: are higher. But and we've gone through so many power

1088
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: rankings though that we and we've seen much more of

1089
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: a a bunching than we thought we would, where we

1090
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: feel like the f C is is the stronger conference.

1091
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: That being said, who is somebody that you think in

1092
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: your model right now, maybe in the n f C

1093
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: or in the a f C, that you like a

1094
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: lot better than the perception and and conversely a team

1095
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: that you think is much worse than the perception seems

1096
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: to be. Right. Now, okay, let me start with the

1097
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: second part, San Francisco in the NFC as being a

1098
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: team that we think is much worse than the person.

1099
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna give I'm gonna give a caveat here.

1100
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: This is we're working under an assumption that train Lands

1101
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: is the starter. And I don't think that's like a

1102
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: terrible a terrible assumption because of everything that San Francisco

1103
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: did to acquire hands. So let's just I understand it's

1104
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: not a sandstone. I just hold that for a second

1105
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: note from the model's perspective, and I think it's just

1106
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: backed up. I just talked about what it means when

1107
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: you don't play, and how the model anticipates. So you

1108
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: think about someone like train Lands. He comes into the

1109
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: rookie most rookies do, even in the first round. Most

1110
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: thirty quarterbacks do not came out to be good players.

1111
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: The majority just don't. And so it knows that overall,

1112
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: So it's going to assume, on average, the quarterback is

1113
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: not gonna work out. There's upside there, and we do

1114
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: increase the variance that means there's higher upside, but on average,

1115
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: it's probably not a good player. Then that player does

1116
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: not see the fields for most of the most of the

1117
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: the last season, and so it's only going to nudge

1118
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: Train Lance down farther. And so it looks at that

1119
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: and it says, well better like for Tray Lance, like

1120
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: Lance has a higher ceiling. But on average guessing, if

1121
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: I had to, if I had to guess which player

1122
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,479
Speaker 1: will got her next year, it would say, I think

1123
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: Jared gott If I had the guests, which player will

1124
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: be better next year, Carson Wentz or Train Lance? Who

1125
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: would you choose Carson Wentz. So they're not like great quarterbacks,

1126
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: but on average, it's it's saying like, based on the

1127
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: data that it thinks that Lance won't be that good.

1128
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: So there are other good players on the forty niners,

1129
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: and I'm not disputing that, but when you're taught, when

1130
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: you're starting from that standpoint from a quarterback, it's really hard.

1131
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: So we have them really low. I think Dallas is

1132
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: the team that were higher on the most. We haven't

1133
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: at six um last year. You know, this one's a

1134
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: little bit. I'll say this. I think there's a decent

1135
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: counter here, which is to say part of this is

1136
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: the defense which did play well last season, and you

1137
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: could say it was turnover driven last year and that

1138
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 1: might have been slooky and I think that is kind

1139
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: of fair. But they Dallas was a sneaky efficient team

1140
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 1: last year, Like I mean through the regular season last year,

1141
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: efficiency which is just are like expected points added per

1142
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: play adjusted for garbage time metric, I mean Dallas was

1143
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: second UM and so uh, that was for me, that

1144
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: was kind of remarkable when when we think about the

1145
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: numbers UM last season and and which teams played well.

1146
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: Dallas played pretty well last year, UM, And so it

1147
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: looks at that and said, yeah, you lost them Mariti Cooper,

1148
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: and that doesn't it doesn't help. It's assuming a healthy

1149
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: Michael Galla. But Dallas is a team that has shown

1150
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: flashes and we like a little bit better than everyone else.

1151
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: They also have you know, there are playing an easy division.

1152
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: So from a projection standpoint, that helps. Yeah, it certainly does.

1153
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: And a team playing in a very very brutal division.

1154
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: Uh is any team that is playing in the nfs

1155
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: A f C West rather And as I'm looking at this,

1156
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: you guys like the Chargers most Now it's by a

1157
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: narrow margin. You like them all you've got. You've got

1158
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: the Chargers at nine point nine, You've got the Broncos

1159
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: at nine point five, and I'm speaking projected wins. You

1160
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: get Kansas City at nine four four, and then Vegas

1161
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: at eight point eight. Um. But what I was surprised

1162
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: by is that the charge that you guys have the

1163
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Chargers ahead of the other teams, especially ahead of Kansas City,

1164
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: despite the loss of Tyreek Hill, like they've done it

1165
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: over and over. Um. Well and again it's it's small.

1166
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: There's just just small variants. But you have them even

1167
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: better as a Super Bowl ta. You have them more

1168
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: likely to make the Super Bowl than the Chiefs by

1169
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: a negligible amount in the exact same win probability in

1170
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl as the Chiefs. That surprised me a

1171
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: little bit. Although I love I love the Chargers, I

1172
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: love the roster, it just feels like maybe a year

1173
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: or too soon for me. Okay, so that part didn't

1174
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: surprise me, But you know, it did surprise me that

1175
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: we need the Broncos a one percent better chance to

1176
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: win the an f C West than the Chiefs, And

1177
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: that floored me right, Like I was thinking, well, hang

1178
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: on a second, here, because we think the Chiefs are

1179
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: still pretty good without Tyrenko. But it comes down to

1180
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: the schedule. I mean, if you look at the teams

1181
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: that everyone has to play, the Chiefs have a brutal stretch.

1182
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: And if you go for the three opponents, you know,

1183
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 1: each team has three opponents that their division mats don't

1184
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: play right, and the Chiefs three are the Bunks, Bills,

1185
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: and Bengals. I mean how rough is that? And you

1186
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: and the Broncos get the Falcons, Dolphins, Browns, and the

1187
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: Broncos get Panthers Death Ravens. So, uh, there's a huge

1188
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: gap there. And you know, we know that these divisions

1189
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: that come down to a game or two and that

1190
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: can really swing it. So I think it's when we

1191
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: being like like you said, it's really narrow the difference

1192
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: in here between these teams. But when it comes to

1193
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: why the model just edged those edge the Chargers ahead

1194
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl chance just edge the Broncos ahead and

1195
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: chance to win the division, Uh, it's because of that

1196
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: schedule when you went through this, and I don't know

1197
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: if you're able to isolate, but we've talked about looking

1198
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: obviously what the Broncos, it's Russell Wilson is the factor.

1199
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: Davante Adams goes from the Packers to the Raiders, Tyreek

1200
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: Kill goes the Dolphins, Deshaun Watson obviously comes to the Browns.

1201
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: Who was the biggest needle mover, maybe in a positive way,

1202
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: and and and from a non quarterback perspective, who was

1203
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: the biggest needle mover maybe in a negative way that

1204
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: hurt its its former team the most. Oh, that's a

1205
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: great question. So I think in the biggest thing, the

1206
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: mover in a positive way, like it has to be

1207
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Um we're talking about just a huge upgrade

1208
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: from Drew lock to to Wilson. I can't see how

1209
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: that's not I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

1210
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: vamp while I try and guest here, I don't have

1211
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, like a specific perfect way to do this,

1212
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: but I think the answer is going to be Adams.

1213
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: That you know, we're talking about non quarterback movi because

1214
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: the other fact is, like if you said also like

1215
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: hurting their team, right, and so the Packers, I mean,

1216
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: when we like what's left there in Green Bay at

1217
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver and wide receiver probably being the most likely,

1218
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: non most important, non quarterback position. I mean to leave

1219
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: a group with Randall Cobb and Alan Lazard and Christian

1220
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: Watson down from Davante Adams at wide receiver one, like,

1221
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: that's just a huge drop off. And there's a lot

1222
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: to like about Queen Day. I think, you know, we're

1223
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: still a two there, and I think part of that's

1224
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: because you're getting they were really good last year without

1225
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: box Tiari and without dry yours Nander, without Elton Jenkins

1226
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: for a long time, and they're getting those guys back,

1227
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: So there's reason to be optimistic about Clean Day. But

1228
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: I think that was I mean, there's no question that

1229
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: was that was really costly to their office. Seth, we

1230
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: love this conversation with every year and love the insight

1231
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: you provide. Thanks for your time today, Pal, Yeah, of course,

1232
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: happy to do it all right. That's Seth Walter, ESPN

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Speaker 1: to know your first thought. Longest acceptable distance to drive

1253
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Speaker 1: for a one night's stay, a one night road trip.

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Speaker 1: What is the longest distance that you would acceptably drive

1255
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: for a one night road trip? Four hours? Yes, that's right,

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Speaker 1: that is correct, and that's felt high. That's the number.

1257
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: But that's the number you had no more than that,

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Speaker 1: No more. Who wants you to drive more than that

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Speaker 1: for a one night's day? Obviously I know who? Why no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no one is. I was having this discussion, uh, in

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Speaker 1: respect to my my dead and uncle driving back to

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Speaker 1: Montana and all that they're doing. And I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about what is the difference between what is a road

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01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: trip that's an acceptable distance? And I and I said

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Speaker 1: for one night because what they did was was crazy

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Speaker 1: and all that, But I mean, but for a night,

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Speaker 1: four hours is the number. And like that means you're

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Speaker 1: up at eight, on the road at eight, so you

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01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: get there by noon, so you can have the day,

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Speaker 1: then you have the night, you wake up the next day,

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01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: you can have at least lunch whatever, and then decide

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Speaker 1: when you're gonna leave. In probably gonna want to leave,

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Speaker 1: of course. I was going to say, for you, no

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Speaker 1: later than four, your home at eight, that's what you're at. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot. How about on a how about a

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01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: minimum of four nights day? Does that open it up

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Speaker 1: a little bit? Are you willing to do a multiple stay?

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01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm willing to do it. Yeah. We did when we

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Speaker 1: went for our anniversary, went to North Carolina, which was

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Speaker 1: eight and we had three one, two, three nights. I

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01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,959
Speaker 1: want to say, yeah, kids in the mix. I still

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Speaker 1: feel like I need even more time to justify the eight. Yeah.

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01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: Eight was fine because we got in, we got up

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01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: in the morning, left out in there in the early afternoon.

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Speaker 1: We're able to have a nice dinner the first night,

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01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: and we had two full days there and then we

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: did something I think we had lunch and then came

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Speaker 1: home on the last day. Yeah, so that's doable. Four

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Speaker 1: is the correct. It's a long way to go, it really,

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01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: it's a long ways. Yeah. I know people that will

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01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: try to drive like to South Carolina from here for

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Speaker 1: a day. No no, no no, no, no, for like spring break,

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01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: or they'll drive for like in the summer, for like

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01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: a vacation, or they'll drive down there and they have kids,

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Speaker 1: And to me, I just feel like that's impossible. That

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01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: that to me with the kids, eight seems I mean

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01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: I drove back from Newark, which wasn't pure joy, and

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01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: that was eight and a half with traffic. Um, but

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that for leisure, that on a necessity. Yeah, alright,

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01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: that's that's right. What her answer is an acceptable day

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Speaker 1: for one day road trip. Yeah, and she does a

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01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: lot of them. She has a lot of them. I

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01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: also think on a day and back two hours, is

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Speaker 1: that that's it? Day in in the same day, same day. Yeah.

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01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: Like I can drive to Columbus and come back here

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01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: in a day and it's fine. It ain't great, but

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01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: it's fine. It's fine. Anything more like if somebody said, oh,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go to Dayton and back. Nope, Nope, not

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Speaker 1: doing it. Take us for all Cleveland Browns games are

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Speaker 1: dot com to learn more. Well, this feels good to

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Speaker 1: say out on the hotline. Brown's media contributor a d

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Speaker 1: D Kickaballa joining us on the hotline. That sounds pretty

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Speaker 1: good to us, and d D thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for your time. Before we get into all the football

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01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 1: stuff I do have to ask you a non football's question.

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01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: Nathan and I were having a discussion, what is the

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: longest acceptable drive for a one day road trip? How

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01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 1: do is so funny that you're talking about that? Because

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01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: in I'm Pistred Radio they were just having that conversation.

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01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: Come on, um, do you mean like a one off

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01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: like my parents are dropping me four hours away to

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01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: Cornell and then driving home four hours after? Or do

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,879
Speaker 1: you mean on a daily basis? No, No, no, one off?

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01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: You're you take maybe you and the kids were dying,

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: it's four hours whatever, The number would be six, five, three,

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01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's one whatever. How long in the car is

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01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: acceptable for a one off, one day road trip, not

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01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: a commute. That's a different conversation. I think you can

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01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: all go different. Sorry, if they were kids in the car,

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01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: or they're not kids in the car, because that's also correct.

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: It's like starting minutes each way, that's right, that's correct.

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01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: It's not kiss in the car. What could I do? Well?

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01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: I'm regularly the last few years John Pittsburgh to Cleveland,

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01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: which is two fifteen two and a half in one day,

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01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: the two and a half in the morning, cover the

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01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: rounds all day, and then two and a half back.

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: That's probably it's reasonable. Yeah, I haven't done the Bills

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01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: in a day. The bills are three plus, and I've

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01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: never done Cincinnati in one day, which is five each way.

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Speaker 1: What if there were a resort? What if? What if

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01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: there's a resort on the other end of it and

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01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: you get one night stay in the resort and they're

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01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna pam for you one night's day. Yes, well, then

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01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: you need to make sure there's enough hours left in

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01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 1: the day to enjoy the resorts. You don't want to

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01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: do you No, we say four four was our limit.

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: That's the most I would drive on one night's day. Yes,

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01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: I think if it's only one night, and that seems

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01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: fairly reasonable. Although we your parents are Jersey and we

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01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: do six. We'll do sticks on a Friday and then

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: six back on a Sunday, two nights day. That gives

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: you I can get behind you at least have one

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Speaker 1: full day. Yeah. So are you guys saying that on

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Speaker 1: a better road warrior than you are, that I affect?

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Speaker 1: Perhaps perhaps we are. Yeah, they're no doubt. Although I

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: will say I did do in the COVID season, I

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01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: did Baltimore and back same day for the game, so

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01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: I think four in the morning, drove to Baltimore. Did

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01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: the game was not one that I enjoyed being yet

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01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: we got like five and a half and then from

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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 1: here I did and I did Cincinnati that same season

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01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: the same day, which was fourish Baltimore. That was the

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: very no well, if you remember a d that was

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01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: our season opener. Yeah, that game was there me you yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know who was there there, met you, A couple

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01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: of our camera guys and like the ten piece Ravens

1373
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: band that was having a field day. And I was

1374
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 1: not enjoying their their score that they were providing to

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01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: the action in front of me. Oh my god. But

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: you're turning things around after that opener, that's right. That

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01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: was um, so let's let's get into this. This is

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: so great. So we under Brown's media contributor. You're doing

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01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: you're doing? What do you about this? Exciting? What what

1380
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: are you doing? And and and welcome aboard. Yeah, well

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01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 1: thank you. That popped up, I guess on the website

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01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 1: at some point this weekend and somebody founded and uh,

1383
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: I saw Nathan get peppered with questions and my Twitter

1384
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: certainly exploded. And I don't you know, Um, there may

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: be some announcements in the future, but there are no

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01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: major announcements right now. I'm just hoping Nathan will let

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01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: me ride on his coachails for a little while along.

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: It's a little intern If Nathan will let me keep

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01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: that contributor title right there, well, yeah, it's a very

1390
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: nice title, and inde if I have anything deal with it.

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01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: Of course you're going to keep that. And then, as

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: you said, I don't know if there were some scores

1393
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: dropped for the people right there, but as we say

1394
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: on the show, paid attention to the scores and maybe

1395
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: major announcements coming. I feel like those were some scores there,

1396
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: but there we go. You know what, there has always

1397
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: been a specialist in any on my ende for the

1398
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: way that the Browns do media. And every NFL team

1399
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: has its own internal media shop, but the Browns really

1400
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: do have a very good commitment to providing as much

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01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,879
Speaker 1: information to their fans if they can. Um, there's always

1402
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: been a lot of creativity. I especially think about certain

1403
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,520
Speaker 1: videos that were put out that there's not there's a fearlessness,

1404
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: there's a willingness to live a little bit on the edge.

1405
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: And I also feel that Brown's media, Nathan is as

1406
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: fair as you can expect an in house media team

1407
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: to be. You know, there are some teams to feel

1408
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: like you're getting me propaganda and that's and there are

1409
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: others that you feel like, Okay, you're getting a little bit,

1410
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: and you know you're getting you're getting a real window

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01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: into what's happening. And so I am extremely grateful and

1412
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: excited that the Browns they're saying, hey, comeing do a

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01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: few things with us. Yeah, we're were excited to and

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01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: I know what started Brown's countdown. On the night of

1415
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: the draft. You were here at the Cross Country Mortgage

1416
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: campus and Maria talking with Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry

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Speaker 1: and hopefully, as we said, we'll see more of that.

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01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 1: And now you did make them laugh, which was which is,

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01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: by the way, no small feat with those two. That

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01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: is something you should that you could put that right

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Speaker 1: on the resume. Yeah, but both of them laugh. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: that is that's not easy. That's not easily accomplished. But

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Speaker 1: you also did that. And then you went and dropped

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: this kde York article for us on Cleveland Browns dot com,

1425
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: which I just tweeted out for everybody to check out,

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01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: and I think that's where people saw you and the

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01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: contributor right under your name already got very excited about that.

1428
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: But what what kind of stood out to you about Kate.

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna talk to him tonight on the Brown's

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01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: Live Meet the Rookie special What stood out to about

1431
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: Kate and doing this research and getting to learn more

1432
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: about the Brown's kicker. It was how relaxed she was.

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01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 1: It was how funny he was. And I think that

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: for quite some time, kicker have kind of carried this,

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, and you remember it was several years ago.

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01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: I think of his rich eyes and he said it

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01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 1: for asday. Punters are people too, or maybe let's pop

1438
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: back to say who said it, But the specialists have

1439
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: always kind of seemed on their own and a lot

1440
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 1: of it has to do because of practice, the putter

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: and the kicker and the loss epper sort of doing

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01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: their own thing and they're on their own field. And

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: in recent years you've seen kickers really feel specialists and

1444
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: kickers specifically feel more part of the team, more engaged.

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01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's Evan McPherson standing right next to Joe

1446
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: Burrow saying, wow, I guess I'm gonna have to kick

1447
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: us into the AFC title game, you know. And it

1448
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: was that comfort with himself. He told really funny stories.

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01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: He told me a funny story about his dad taking

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01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: him to an ad DC concert and how that led

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01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: to his parents having a fight, and he's like, I'm

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: pretty sure that my dad had to sleep on the

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01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: couch for a few weeks. I thought that was Derek's really,

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01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 1: you know, and let his guard down. I gave him

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to some trash about Evan McPherson because,

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Speaker 1: of course in that good game where he kicked that

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01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: fifty seven yard field goal and won the game for

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: l S two, but Evan McPherson did have a chance

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Speaker 1: to kick and tie the game and his I believe

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: it was a fifty one yard or at McPherson's kick

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01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: fell short. So I said, you know, I gave Kay

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Speaker 1: the chance to talk a little trash and he's just

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01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: refused to probably the only kick Evan McPherson ever enlisted

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Speaker 1: his life. And he's like, and I'm sure that he

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Speaker 1: would trade that miss for all the big kicks he

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Speaker 1: made in the NFL. And I just thought that it

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01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: was like Okay, this is a guy that has a

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Speaker 1: lot of confidence, who's really smart, who's going to be

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Speaker 1: easy to get along list, who understands what it means

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01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: to be a cheam. I mean, he was a stark

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: soccer player, and who also is not going to sit

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01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: and get like wrapped up in a big ego in

1473
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: any way. So I don't know, I just I like

1474
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: just a mean her. I liked how he said that

1475
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: he wants to spend as much as the summer up

1476
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: here as he possibly can and be kicking in First

1477
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: Energy Stadium. Cool kid, I mean's just a real cool customer.

1478
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: You know, he kind of checks the all the boxes

1479
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: on on the things that you want out of a kicker.

1480
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: We think an optimistic that it all all works out,

1481
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: just big picture and you spend a lot of your

1482
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 1: career obviously covering this part of the NFL and the

1483
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: a f C North have a very good handle on

1484
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: it um in terms of what happened this offseason in

1485
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: this division and how tight it is top to bottom,

1486
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: and I think most people would acknowledge it feels like

1487
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh from a talent standpoint is it is at the

1488
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: bottom of the four UM and yet they're the Steelers

1489
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: that they don't have losing records ever ever, And so

1490
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: this is kind of the spot you're in. And I'm

1491
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: wondering if you can recall the division ever being like

1492
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,839
Speaker 1: this from top to bottom the way that it appears

1493
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: to be heading into next season. No, And you know what,

1494
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: I think that that's sort of the magic of this, guys.

1495
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: Is this going to be a division that has three

1496
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs? Or is this going to be

1497
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: a division that just eats each other up so badly

1498
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: and it ends up still black and blue that there's

1499
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 1: only one one team limping out of it. And the

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 1: thing that I would say about the Steelers, and I

1501
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: was actually just talking to a member of the coaching

1502
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: staff about rookie meaning camps, and he said that Kenny

1503
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: Pickett's demeanor was more And now I fully expect I'll

1504
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: say this right now, I expect Mr Bissy to start

1505
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: to see this. I think said that very the coach

1506
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: that I spoke to was very impressed with Kenny Pickett's demeanor,

1507
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: And not only that, she said that he feels really

1508
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: strongly about what George Pickens and Calbott Austin could be

1509
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: another rookie. We haven't seen them do it on this stage.

1510
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: We don't know what that actually means. But we all

1511
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: saw which of our Chase did as a rookie week

1512
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: year ago. So I'm not going to completely diminish the

1513
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: possibility that a rookie wide receiver can come out and

1514
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: just completely blow people away. So now, the Steelers did

1515
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: indeed improve their offensive line, something that the Ravens needed

1516
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: to do and did, and something that the Bengals needed

1517
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: to do and did. The Steelers didn't need improve their

1518
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: offensive line. We saw what Naji Harris did with no

1519
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: offensive line a year ago, and with the quarterback that

1520
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: couldn't run any sort of the play action pass game

1521
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,839
Speaker 1: in any way. Now you've got a more athletic quarterback,

1522
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: whether it's Trubisky or Picket, you are going to see

1523
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: more of the play action pass game. You are seeing

1524
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: a better line, and you potentially have more explosive talent

1525
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: and wide receiver. And this is the offense. By the way,

1526
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: it was a very very good defense that couldn't stop

1527
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: the run, but in a lot of ways couldn't stop

1528
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: the run because there was no Typson Islan Islands, there

1529
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: was no step onto it and hope both of those

1530
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: guys are back, and there's an upgraded inside linebacker as well.

1531
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't write them. I mean, it's impossible to

1532
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: write them off because even when Mike Tomlin has to

1533
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: start duck Hotgens, he's almost making the playoffs. There's something

1534
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: about them that they always compete. But I wouldn't necessarily

1535
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: sit here and say they're at the bottom talent wise.

1536
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: Now the Bengals, I mean, the Bengals get denigrated every

1537
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: which way. They just went to the Super Bowl and

1538
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: they're returning every single coach and they're returning everybody. And

1539
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: Joe Barrow is going to be better this year than

1540
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: anybody a year ago because that me is better and

1541
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: he's got more confidence. So hard to do agree with them.

1542
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: The Browns, I mean the Browns. I feel like I've

1543
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: had the most talent top to bottom for a few

1544
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: years now and now you've got again. But with the Browns,

1545
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,959
Speaker 1: the big question is availability, how available at your quarterback

1546
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: and how much does the offense change from QB one

1547
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: to QB two. I think maybe you don't run it

1548
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: much guns stop, but other than that, you know the

1549
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: offense to still be pretty excitaic even if it's Jacoby Brissette.

1550
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: But it's a big difference if it's Jacoby Brissette, Nathan

1551
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: right Hope for life of course, four games? Where is

1552
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: it Jacoby Brissette for a game? And that's what that

1553
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: I think, that's the question that a lot of people

1554
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: are waiting on. That's, as you mentioned, that's the biggest thing.

1555
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: We just said. South Walter on for me, has been

1556
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,480
Speaker 1: doing their analytics and he said, you know, our projections

1557
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: are based on sixteen games or seventeen games now of

1558
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, but we don't know what that is ultimately

1559
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 1: going to be and how that plays out for the Browns.

1560
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: But as we saw, the schedule is at least favorable

1561
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: in the early going. The toughest game obviously that there's

1562
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: day night against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then things absolutely

1563
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: ramp up for the brown starting in week five. And

1564
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: speaking of that schedule, to here, there any games on

1565
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: that one that you that jumped out to you was, Okay,

1566
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a big time one or or

1567
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: one that you're very excited for. You know. That's that's

1568
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: so hard for me at this point of the season

1569
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: and I always say this, right, because even you've had

1570
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: a rookie mini camp, what do we really I just

1571
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: told you what if Steelers coach told me? But what

1572
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: do we really know? I mean, this is sure, and

1573
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: we don't know whose healthy yet, and we don't know

1574
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: who it runs are, and so like we don't know

1575
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: who's gonna be on what run, who's going to over achieved,

1576
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: who's going to under achieved. Because in the NFL, and

1577
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: that's the magic of the NFL that happens every year,

1578
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 1: somebody is better than you expected and somebody. Of course,

1579
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: for me, it's been division games because I do I mean,

1580
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: I I'm as biased as they come. I think this

1581
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: is the best division in all of football. We didn't

1582
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: even talk about the Ravens, but I mean he's got

1583
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: a former MVP playing for a contract oftensively, you know,

1584
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 1: and in Lama Jackson right there. I don't know. I

1585
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: just you think about that magical game that the Browns

1586
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: and the Ravens had that COVID here, not the game

1587
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: one Nation, but the later in the season one when

1588
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: porl Lamar Jackson had to run to the bathroom or

1589
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: had crafts or whatever Monday night. Those games just all

1590
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: have something special to them. Raven Steelers, They're like basketball games.

1591
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: No matter what happens in the first three quarters, it

1592
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: always gets decided in the last five minutes. Browns and

1593
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 1: Steelers just gotten angry or and nasty or Bengals and Browns.

1594
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: As good as the Bengals were a year ago, they

1595
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: couldn't beat the Browns, you know, and so all of that,

1596
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: seeing that, those are the games that you circle because

1597
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: there's a different energy from the fans too, and I

1598
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: think that what the fans bring to the stadium really

1599
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: adds a very different elements. Absolutely, we're gonna get two

1600
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: of those in prime time. Perhaps all three home games

1601
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: will be in primetime. We don't know when. The game

1602
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: against the Ravens late in the season. It could be

1603
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: a Saturday where be in primetime. War could be on Sunday.

1604
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: But we've got Thursday night against the Steelers, Monday night

1605
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: on Halloween here against the Bengals. That's gonna be a

1606
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And the duty before I let you go,

1607
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: you did mention the Ravens there. What do you think

1608
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: is going on? Or what are you wearrings going on

1609
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson because it just feels odd to me.

1610
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it is odd. I don't know

1611
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: if anybody else thinks it's odd. Do you think it's odd?

1612
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: What's going on with Lamar Jackson? What they're saying about

1613
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson? What what do you know about that situation? Well,

1614
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 1: he so there's a few things to play. He doesn't

1615
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 1: have a formal agent, and he and his mom worked

1616
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 1: very very closely together at but the team can negotiate

1617
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: with his mom because his mom isn't registered with the

1618
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: NFL p A, and so the king has to talk

1619
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: to the player. And when everybody in the Ravens front

1620
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: office and I've spoken to, is that Lamar just doesn't

1621
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: have the urgency right now to get a deal done.

1622
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,799
Speaker 1: I mean, and even Eric Decasto is on the record

1623
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: having said that we'll do it. Lamar wants to do

1624
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: it now. I have also heard, I'll say on the

1625
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 1: foot side, it's that it might be who the Ravens

1626
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: to not have this done right now because you see

1627
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: how much guaranteed money the Browns obviously threw out there,

1628
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: and you see what money is out there for quarterbacks

1629
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: right now. And when we talk about availability, I think

1630
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: there have been some questions about Lamar Jackson's availability, and

1631
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: certainly last year there were so before the Ravens commit

1632
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: a mattive amount of money, why not see in another

1633
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: year brings you. I do think, and this is I'm

1634
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: taking kind of like a little bit of a left

1635
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: turn here, guys, but I think we're going to see

1636
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: a change in the white quarterback deals are done, and

1637
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: I think that they are ultimately going to have more

1638
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. And be sure, because the the salary is

1639
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 1: the annual, the average per year is sky rocketing so

1640
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: much that if you're willing to bet on yourself, you're

1641
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: better off doing a three year fully guaranteed deal and

1642
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: then doing another year in three years than committing to

1643
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: ten years and four years from now finding out that

1644
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: you're just middle of the pack or gross the after page. Yeah,

1645
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: very you're seeing that already. Addy, good stuff. We appreciate you.

1646
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: Welcome to the team. Thanks for your time today, Thank you,

1647
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me and Nathan. I'm I

1648
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 1: hope I will turn into the annoying little sister. I

1649
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 1: hope you'll let me tag along a little bit any time.

1650
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: Add anytime it literally and that's what he doesn't do anything.

1651
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: He just he's always available. That's right, Thank you, all right,

1652
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 1: thanks to all right, Still so much more to come.

1653
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: You listen to Clean the Browns Daily on fifesp and

1654
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily Ones and hey be sure to

1655
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: check out Brown's Live Meet the Rookies presented by Vivid

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01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: Seed sociedd by Z tonight at seven Cleveland Browns dot Com,

1657
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: The Browns ble app the Brown's YouTube channel. Here from

1658
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: the newest members of the Cleveland Browns roster with exclusive interviews.

1659
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: That's Brown's Live Meat the Rookies, presented by Vivid seats

1660
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: tonight at seven. What can we look forward to on

1661
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: that program tonight? Z? Yeah, I'm fired up for that.

1662
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be me and we're gonna have sit down

1663
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: with some new, never foreseen interviews. It's gonna be some

1664
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: not kind of stuff they've been asked a lot before.

1665
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to get to know them as people

1666
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: and their inspirations. Their wise will be joined by Perry

1667
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 1: and Winfrey, David Bell, Kate York, Alex Wright, and m

1668
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 1: j Emerson, the cornerback who was the first pick for

1669
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: the Browns in this year's draft. So it just kind

1670
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: of fun talking to them a little bit about the

1671
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: rookie minicamp experience, you know, going back a little bit

1672
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 1: through the draft, but really mostly who they are, what

1673
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: they've thought about Cleveland, what they've thought about the fans

1674
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: who are there here a couple of weeks, two weeks

1675
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 1: and most of the guys two weeks, a couple of

1676
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: weeks here. So that's that's all right, let's look forward

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Speaker 1: to that's tonight at seven UM. By the way, this

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Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know that. You know

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Speaker 1: that the PGA Championship this time of years of fail.

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Speaker 1: You and I did a a now a two hour

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Speaker 1: radio show. It's it's tomorrow. That's right. We didn't talk

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Speaker 1: anything about it. No, we imagined yesterday. Yeah, that's uh.

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Speaker 1: They they did, they did. I don't like it. I

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Speaker 1: always think it should be the last one. So they're

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Speaker 1: trying to make now the British or the Open is

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Speaker 1: the final major. They're making golf irrelevant for the casual

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Speaker 1: sports fan by the second week of July, which is

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Speaker 1: silly because you can still own August. August is still

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Speaker 1: preseason and that's where it should be. August used to

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Speaker 1: have didn't wasn't Firestone like usually August, right around August,

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Speaker 1: first last week of July, and then had depend two

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Speaker 1: weeks later. It was the p g A. Firestone led

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Speaker 1: into the p G A much as Merefield leads into

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Speaker 1: the US Open. The season went from April to August,

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Speaker 1: April to August eight to a man, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like what's done. I don't

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Speaker 1: like it. I'm I don't I'm not even ready for it. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not in my head that I'm gonna be. Father's

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Speaker 1: Day is the second. That's the US Open. Then you

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Speaker 1: hit the British and then you have you kind of

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Speaker 1: have the big sprint to the finish. You go from

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Speaker 1: April all the way to June, fine, no big deal,

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Speaker 1: fine with it, and then July you get the Open

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Speaker 1: and then you get the pg and then that's where

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Speaker 1: it wraps it up. Yeah. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what. I don't know why, why they did it.

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Speaker 1: It's just interesting for the p g A Tours last

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Speaker 1: major of the year is played randomly in may Well.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you go through the four majors, the

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Speaker 1: final major is actually played across the pond right, but

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Speaker 1: also that there was some synergy with it. Almost it

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Speaker 1: felt like the end of the end of the PGA

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Speaker 1: Tour season with the PJA Championship. Honestly, you could have

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Speaker 1: taken you could have pushed it further if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to just be done before the season starts. This is strange,

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Speaker 1: so strange. Perry and Winfrey is gonna be in studio

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Speaker 1: with us Browns Live tonight at seven o'clock Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Vivid Seeds tonight at seven. Z will crush that as

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Speaker 1: he does most that can't wait. The next level is

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Speaker 1: coming up next. Thanks for listen, everybody. Clear The Browns

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