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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast

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Speaker 1: Network Guy and Chad Milman. Guess what, folks. We might

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Speaker 1: be in the middle of NBA playoffs. We might be

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the NHL plaos. We might be

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Speaker 1: in the middle of baseball season. We might be in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the French Open. We might be in

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Speaker 1: the middle of golf season. But we're like, no joke,

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Speaker 1: one hundred days from the start of football, which means

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Speaker 1: we got an excuse to get Shawn Corner on the

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Speaker 1: Favorites Podcast with me and my bff, my companion, Mr

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Speaker 1: Simon Hunter professional better. How are you, man, dad, buddy?

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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy our one sunny day this entire weekend?

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Speaker 1: I think we had a sunnyday on Monday. That was

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Speaker 1: pretty much it for a whole holiday weekend. Sent day

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Speaker 1: on Monday, Uh, my mom came to visit from California.

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Speaker 1: Great weekend in Connecticut to have relatives visiting when you

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Speaker 1: couldn't leave your house. Uh, Saturday or Sunday it was

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Speaker 1: raining so badly and it was so uncomfortable here in Connecticut. Um.

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Speaker 1: That always makes for a lot of fun when a

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Speaker 1: relative who you may or may not have tension with

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Speaker 1: has come to visit, not seeing them for almost two

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Speaker 1: years because of the pandemic. So that was great. Are

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Speaker 1: are big? You know, everyone has their family get together

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Speaker 1: untilways the weird awkward conversations like you have the weird

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Speaker 1: aunt that just hates Lebron James, or just the conversations

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Speaker 1: you don't want to have. Uh. We talked a lot

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Speaker 1: about aliens, big topic, and I was wondering, Chad, have

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Speaker 1: you seen a UFO or an alien walking on Earth? Well,

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Speaker 1: you could argue that a lot of the people I know,

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Speaker 1: the only explanation for their behavior is that they are

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Speaker 1: aliens number one, well technically an including by the way,

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Speaker 1: most of the people that we work with, including maybe

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Speaker 1: including maybe a couple of people on this call, including

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Speaker 1: Sean Corner and Matt Mitchell, because that that might be

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Speaker 1: otherwise Matt Mitchell living in his basement and his sensibilities

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Speaker 1: and Shun Corner running simulations, uh for fun are the

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Speaker 1: only reasons to the alien life is the only reasons

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Speaker 1: that they could do these things. Um, let me tell

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Speaker 1: you a story, please. I did one one year. You know,

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Speaker 1: my my family and I used to do these uh

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Speaker 1: are v trips every year with my best friend and

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Speaker 1: his family from the time our kids were about nine,

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Speaker 1: uh no, probably ten until sixteen, and they were amazing.

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Speaker 1: It would be both families. We'd go to one state

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Speaker 1: rent in r V. We did death Vale A, we

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Speaker 1: did Utah, we did um the South, we did ore

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Speaker 1: Agon one and and they're amazing. They are a comedy

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Speaker 1: of errors. I highly recommend it, especially if you've got

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Speaker 1: like younger kids. They're just so much fun to do.

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Speaker 1: So um we did New Mexico one year, and New

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Speaker 1: Mexico is the only state we were driving in where

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Speaker 1: state that needed more resources than it had. But we

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Speaker 1: did go to Roswell, and we did go to the

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Speaker 1: Roswell Museum. And I am thoroughly a hundred convinced that

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Speaker 1: Roswell was true that area fifty one aliens landing. You

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Speaker 1: can either believe it or not believe it. I just

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Speaker 1: choose to believe it because I think gets interesting and

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Speaker 1: fun and I lose. I gained nothing by not believing it,

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Speaker 1: and I lose nothing by believing in it, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. So there's no reason not to, like,

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Speaker 1: why not believe there's another life form? How arrogant are

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Speaker 1: we to believe that we're the only planet they can

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Speaker 1: have intelligent life? It's idiotic. So like basically that's what

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Speaker 1: but it's just it's information where people are just like,

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Speaker 1: what am I gonna do with that? Like until these

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Speaker 1: we gonna do with it? But you know, my in

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Speaker 1: and uncle they're terrified about They think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: like Christopher Columbus and the Native Americans, like they're gonna

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Speaker 1: wipe us out. And I'm the other way where I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: these these things have the technology to travel across the universe.

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Speaker 1: You don't think they have the technology to turn a

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Speaker 1: planet into an Earth themselves. They don't like, what can

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Speaker 1: we really benefit to them? So I'm on the other

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Speaker 1: review of that. They are like coming here, they're checking

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Speaker 1: us out. But I think they look as we're so stupid.

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Speaker 1: They're just like, you know what, let's just keep wait

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Speaker 1: not gonna come here to kill us. They're coming here

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Speaker 1: just like you know, check us out. Listen, a guy

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Speaker 1: like Corner. We can bring Corner in here because you know,

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Speaker 1: He might already have odds. And whether or not alien

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Speaker 1: whether they look like how they're portrayed movies is another thing,

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Speaker 1: But I think without a doubt they exist. Person at

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Speaker 1: Action Network most likely to be an alien, Lee Boff,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, too easy. Sean Corner, Oh that's good.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go with Freeman. How could you

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Speaker 1: not say Freedman? Oh my god, Matthew Friedman. Simon Hunter

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Speaker 1: brings in Mike Leeboff, who has been a regular guest

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Speaker 1: a really good one. Uh. Matt Mitchell is in the

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Speaker 1: one name wonder stucky um was my first instinct. There

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Speaker 1: is something freakish about his sleep habits, something freakish about

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Speaker 1: his willingness to invite anybody from Twitter to come visit

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Speaker 1: him and stay with him in Kentucky. Something freakish about

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Speaker 1: the fact that he's gone to visit random people on

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Speaker 1: But he's definitely he might be too much of a degenerate,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know if an alien could be as

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Speaker 1: he's like the when I think of a true gambler,

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Speaker 1: Stucky is like right up there, man, Like that dude,

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Speaker 1: I'll literally go to bed, I'll do my three m

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Speaker 1: no surprise to anybody. Uh wins the prize. Guys, we

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Speaker 1: got a seventeenth game and that impacts everything. Sean, I

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Speaker 1: into season win totals for the NFL. But I don't

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Speaker 1: had a conversation about how the seventeenth game, uh impacts

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Speaker 1: I I factor it in there. UM. But from I

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Speaker 1: understand Simon, it kind of messes up with your you're

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Speaker 1: Corners very sort of calm response in that the simulator

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Speaker 1: comic collective. I feel like I'm the opposite where I'm

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Speaker 1: just like panicking seven. I mean, I didn't sleep for

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Speaker 1: interesting how the schedule took in the strength of schedule.

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Speaker 1: Like I'll use guys who I trust on their data

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Speaker 1: like the Eagles and Cowboys have the easiest schedule this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: things out. And again we talk all the time injuries, injuries, injuries, injuries,

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Speaker 1: everyone has a plan, and then three weeks in we

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Speaker 1: looking for value. I'm looking to give myself enough room

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Speaker 1: bet it now, because like we just said, we're a

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Speaker 1: Love the potential of Isaiah Simmons Simon, Do you have

429
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: a strong opinion on that one? Yeah, I had him

430
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: at eight point four, so like I leaned towards the over.

431
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: But the human element of me, Chad, we know on

432
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: this show we hate Cliff Kingsbury. We trashed them. We

433
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: wrote them early on once we figured out he's a fraud.

434
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: We faded him to the end the year and it

435
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: was very profitable for us with Ariazona last year. UM,

436
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what to think of him. It's it's tough,

437
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: like it's it's one of those where because of that division,

438
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: like he just said, like they do have some weak

439
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: opponents outside of it. Um, such a tough division, and

440
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if they addressed in the offensive line enough.

441
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: And we saw Kyler breaking down taking those big hits,

442
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: and it's still one of those where you know, I

443
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: love the J. J. Watt move, could care less about

444
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: the A. J. Green one. I just think it's one

445
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: of these teams where that's a good price. So if

446
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: you if you do like the Over, you believe in Kyler,

447
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: that's that's a fair price. Because I do have it

448
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: over like lean towards the Over. Personally, I'm either gonna

449
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: take gender I won't touch it just because I'm so

450
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: off Clin Kingsbury. I like the corner is wearing a

451
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers hat, which is one of the teams

452
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: I am most heavily invested in. Are they going to

453
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: be one of the teams on your over list? Yes,

454
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: they are, of course. My god, I've got such a gift.

455
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was coming. Why don't we

456
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: talk about them? Now? Tell me about them? So I

457
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: do like the over nine um, and you know a

458
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: lot of great things to say about their offense. Um.

459
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: You know they upgrade their offensive line by bringing Matt

460
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,959
Speaker 1: Feiler and Corey Lindsey. I love those moves. And then

461
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: they were able to have ray Sean Slater fall to

462
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: them at pick thirteen, So I couldn't have asked for

463
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: a better outcome there. Um. You know, they lost Hunter Henry,

464
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: but you know I like the Jared Cook signing. That's

465
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: more of a short term solution. I've heard rumors that

466
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: they might bring in zach ertst so I'm not too

467
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: worried about the loss of Hunter Henry there. Um. And

468
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: you know the coaching change, um going to brand Staley.

469
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: I love that because I can't tell you how many

470
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: times I bet on the charges of the past years

471
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: and witness Anthony Lynn makes some very poor decisions later

472
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: in the game that cost them. So that's gonna be

473
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 1: a good change. And in that regard, hopefully we can

474
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Speaker 1: see Derwin James stay healthy this year. I think that's

475
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna be huge for the defense if he can stay healthy.

476
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: Um So, you know I love that. And even factoring

477
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Speaker 1: in the Rogers Aaron Rodgers situation where I'm giving him

478
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: at chance going to the Broncos, I'm still showing value

479
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: on this. So if I'm like you guys and I

480
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: think that he's gonna stay in Green Bay, I would

481
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: love this even more. Um So, I love the over nine.

482
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: I have um ten or more wins at forty percent chance,

483
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: eight or few at thirty three percent chance. So I

484
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: love the value at nine. Here. I don't know why

485
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers aren't getting more futures love. They're

486
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: about thirty to one right now. They have been further

487
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: down the road map there the futures rankings, but still, like,

488
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why fans are not piling on. I

489
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: bet on them before the Rams. I bet on the Bills,

490
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: but I like the Chargers better. Like that to me

491
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: is a team primed Simon. They're primed. Yeah, I think

492
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's tough. It's tough with the Chargers. Like

493
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: just first, thanks to the schedule. I love that we're

494
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna know a lot about this team by the time

495
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: they get to their bye week. They literally start the

496
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: year playing Washington Football team, like a great defense. Then

497
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: they're at home the Cowboys. Then they're at the Chiefs,

498
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: then they're playing Vegas, then they play Cleveland, then they're

499
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: at Baltimore, then they have their bye week. So it's

500
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: really interesting to see how they're gonna start the year

501
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: where I'm right there with them, Like I am obsessed

502
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: with Herbert, like the throws he made last year, it

503
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: was like a fifth year pro. Like, this kid's upside

504
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: is on ill and they've improved their all line, have

505
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: all the weapons back on defense, have a great offensive weapons.

506
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: So to me, I love the Chargers. I'm gonna be

507
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: on the over. But of course it feels like a

508
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: trap deep down because, like you just said, why are

509
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: more people betting the Super Bowl future? I think maybe

510
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: some pros are scared because you like, when you bet futures,

511
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: you'd like to think of a team winning the division

512
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: because you're you're betting on a top seed. We've learned

513
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: from history usually it helps to have home field advantage

514
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: through the playoffs. To really make it to the Super Bowl.

515
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: So maybe that's the mesitation. They're thinking, I'm not getting

516
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: enough value where we already know the Chiefs losing in

517
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year. My homes is gonna be piste

518
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: off this year. So that's I think that's been factored

519
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: into the Super Bowl odds right now. Pros, no, nothing

520
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: go with Chad corner. You agree with me? I know

521
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: you do what else you got on your what else

522
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: you got on your on your on your Chad list. There.

523
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: The third team that I like the over is the

524
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: football team. UM, and you know they're their defense is

525
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: going to be scary good again this year. They were

526
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: third in DV away last year. Chase Young will only

527
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: get better near two. Um, but they were you know

528
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: they also brought in William Jackson, which all of them

529
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: play more man coverage. UM. You know they're drafted Jamie Davis,

530
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: which is another great pick in my opinion. So this

531
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: guy's limit for this defense. But then you know, bring

532
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: in Ryan Fitzpatrick and Curtis Samuel is going to help

533
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: elevate this offense. UM. You know this is another total

534
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: where eight's the most likely number, but there's more value

535
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: on the over, So you know, nine or more wins,

536
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm getting that fifty one percent at the time in

537
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: my Chad simulation, and seven or fewer wins thirty percent

538
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: at the time. So it's one of those things where

539
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if this pushes at the end

540
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: of the year. But there's way more outcomes where they

541
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: clear this number than not love this team also a

542
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: team I invested a future in thinking Deshaun Watson was

543
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: going to go there. H don't think they're gonna win

544
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with Ryan Fitzpatrick as a quarterback, but

545
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: their defense is so good. Their front four is one

546
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: of those like this could be. You know, if there

547
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: ever was a time for magic to meet fits Magic,

548
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: it is with this team and this defense that can

549
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: be so incredibly effective. Simon shook his head vigorously when

550
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: you said the Washington football team. Yeah, I'm I love

551
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: them so much. It's it's really like the not that

552
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm comparing them to Denver, but I just think this

553
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: is the Denver model, y'ear. They one. It was Peyton

554
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: Manning and unreal front four talent, and their von Miller

555
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: is Chase Young. This kid is a freak so I

556
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: love all the value, especially in that division. They haven't

557
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: had a repeat in a long time. I think it's

558
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: going on twenty years a division winner. But I just

559
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: love them. I just think that people are gonna come

560
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: in the year like me as an Eagles fan. People

561
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: are hyped in the Eagles Giants. Fans are all back

562
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: in on their Giants. Everyone's back in on the Cowboys.

563
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: You're just getting a lot of value right now on

564
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. They're kind of their forgotten team

565
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: right now on this division. Before we get to Shawn

566
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Speaker 1: Corner's overs, Simon or unders, are there any overs that

567
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: you feel strongly about, most strongly about the one that

568
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: that he hasn't mentioned? Um, I mean pure value wise,

569
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: I took Carolina's over. I just thought people are really

570
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: coming in heavy on the Bucks. They're coming in heavy

571
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: on the Atlantic because they really like Atlanta's draft, and

572
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: once again they're gonna be bet in the Saints just

573
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: the way it goes. So I look for a low

574
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: total I like Carolina, and then for a high total

575
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: hold on what was Carolina Carolina was at I'm looking

576
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: it up right now. Uh yeah, okay, yep. Seven and

577
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: a half um. And for the Colts, I do love them,

578
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: but the more I look at their schedule, it is

579
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: scaring me a little bit. I had them graded out

580
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: eleven point three wins and now the schedules out and

581
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: it's set. Man, the Colts have a tough schedule. They

582
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: just I mean, we can go through a real quick

583
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: It's just interesting to see it all paper, just because

584
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, we knew, you know what the schedule is,

585
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: you know what the teams are gonna play. You just

586
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: it's just different once they said it. So they literally

587
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: start the year with Seattle at home, then they got

588
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: the Rams at home, then they're at Tennessee, then they're

589
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: in Miami, then they're at Baltimore. So that is a

590
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: hard start to the year. That's five playoff teams they

591
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: started the year against. But I just love this Colts team.

592
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw what they did with Rivers who retired.

593
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 1: So for me, Carson Wentz, I'm bylow on them. I

594
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: just love the upside of the Colts here. It's uh

595
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: ten wins right now I believe is they're total Coats

596
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: and Panthers both plus money on the over Panthers plus one,

597
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: eighteen Colts plus one ten, so a lot of value

598
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: in both of those plays shown. Corner. Please give me

599
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: your unders, your underwear, just your NFL wind total unders.

600
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: So my first under is actually a team I think

601
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: probably have the best off season. So this isn't you know.

602
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: When it comes to the Chargers and football team, team

603
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: were like, I love their off season, I like the

604
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: over It's not that simple. I think the Browns had

605
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: the best off season, but I love their under um. So,

606
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to their defense, that was

607
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: the issue last year, and I think they made all

608
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: the right moves by bringing Josh Johnson, Troy Hill, Jadeveon Clowney,

609
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: I think this defense is gonna be vastly improved. However,

610
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, they went eleven and five last year with

611
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: an minus eleven point differential. They played like a five

612
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: football team, So it's important to remember that this isn't

613
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: an eleven and five team that improved. It's more like

614
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: a five team that's improving. Um, they went seven and

615
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: two and one score games. I think even with an

616
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: improved defense, they're gonna play in a lot of close games.

617
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: They have a great offensive line, great running game. They're

618
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: gonna play teams pretty close. I don't think they're gonna

619
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: be blowing teams out. Therefore, they're gonna have to maintain

620
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: this one score game luck, and you know you can't

621
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: really control that. Um So I do think they'll win

622
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: ten games this year. I think, actually it's very likely

623
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: they win ten games. I have that twenty percent of

624
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: the time, but you know, under ten and a half,

625
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: I have this hitting fiftent of the time. Again, this

626
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: is somebody that's high on the Browns. I love all

627
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: the move they made, however, just based on their schedule,

628
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: everything evening out, I do like to under here, h

629
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: that is a sharp play right there. I think that

630
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: is an incredibly sharp play. Browns just overvalued in the market.

631
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: Forget about everything else. Everything you just said corner there overvalued, Simon. Yeah,

632
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: Sean's got bigger balls in me. I can't do it.

633
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: I was looking at that one for a while too.

634
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: But like you just said, it's scary because they've improved

635
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: that defense and that was by far the biggest weakness.

636
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: And not that I'm so down on Pittsburgh, but I

637
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: just like they were unreal last year to start there

638
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: ward a ten or eleven and oh to start the

639
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: year I just can't see that from Pittsburgh. Of course

640
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore should bounce back, but we've kind of seen the

641
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: NFL figure it out Lamar a little bit. So it's

642
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: just terrified for men to take that where I'm already

643
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: invested in them to when the FC I got them

644
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: a plus a thousand twin they I didn't do Super

645
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: Bowl because I'm not drinking that much cooling on the

646
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Browns yet, but I'm investment that so I'm probably just

647
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: gonna stay away from this total. Aliens have big balls,

648
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: Simon co On what else you got? So the other

649
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: one is the Cowboys under nine and a half. You know,

650
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: they're coming off of a year where they had one

651
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: of the worst injury lux seasons. With Dak prescott Um

652
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: having that devastating injury, you know, he might not be

653
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: acent to start the year, so he could be a

654
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: bit rusty. Plus he's already hinting that he's not going

655
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: to run as much, so that's gonna take that element

656
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: away from his game. So you know, while I think

657
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: they'll bounce back this year, nine and a half is

658
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: a pretty big number um, And you know, I don't

659
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: know if bringing dan Quinn's gonna fix their defense. They

660
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: had a very unfortunate draft where I thought they were

661
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna either get J. C. Horne or Patrick Certain and

662
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: neither one fell to them, so that kind of ruined

663
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: their draft. They they definitely needed cornerback help. Um. So

664
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: while I think they're gonna be better this year, nine

665
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: and a half is a huge number, So I have

666
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: them going under sixty percent of the time. So I

667
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: love the under here, and I think it's being beat

668
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: up just because you know, the Cowboys are a public team. Um,

669
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, people loved about the over, So I'm just

670
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: taking the value here on the under. Nine and a

671
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: half is a big number. But also, and I know

672
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Simon agrees with you on this, I could see them splitting.

673
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't see anyone any team in the NFC is

674
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: being dominant where you're automatically chalking up two losses for

675
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, which makes me scared to bet under a

676
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: nine and a half when I don't know where the

677
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: losses are going to come from. Automatically. Yeah, well, I

678
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: mean this is kind of betting on you know, I

679
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: already bet on the football team obviously know how good

680
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna be. But I think the Giants. Giants could

681
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: be sneaky too, So I think just NF the East

682
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: will pose more problems than people think. But I agree

683
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: with you. It's not like you can say, um one

684
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: way or another, who's gonna be dominant division. Obviously the

685
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: Eagles will have some issues, but I can see the

686
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: football team and the Giants certainly giving the Cowboys some

687
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: fits within the division. Son, then you agree with him, Yeah,

688
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: I always always fade the Cowboys are always gonna be

689
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: overvalued because they're fan base. It's just it's an easy

690
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: way to make money every year, and when there's there's

691
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: certain teams where you look them on paper and you go, okay,

692
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: of course the Cowboys can keep up with anyone on offense,

693
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: but they can never get stops. And in a team

694
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: like that, that's always gonna be a fifty fifty in

695
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: every game they go into. They're not really ever gonna

696
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: be the position of being the dominant team. I just

697
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: cannot bet a team like that to go over nine

698
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: and a half. I mean, I guess the extra game

699
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: that's one of those where throws a little wrenching it

700
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: because I had him grated out at eight point four.

701
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: But I'm still like, even after I added the game,

702
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: I didn't cross him over nine. So I'm down the Cowboys.

703
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: I just think that coming back off that knee injury,

704
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: like he just said, running for a touchdowns was a

705
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: huge part of Dak's game. If that's gone, that's a

706
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: big deal. Now he's passing in red Zonner. He has

707
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: handed off the Exekie Elliott, So I do think there's

708
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: value on that under. I love that one of you

709
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: has a mused named Chad, that being Simon Hunter. One

710
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: of you has a machine named Chad that being shown

711
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: Corner and you guys are both coming to generally the

712
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: same conclusions using entirely different methods. Corner, what is your

713
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: last under? The third team? That is value that has

714
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: value on the under? Uh, this one feels so easy.

715
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: It feels like a trap. But the Raiders under seven. Um,

716
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I do like the moves that made

717
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: on defense Brian Jagaqway, Casey Hayward and Clinton Jefferson, Um

718
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: Gruss Bradley to to be defensive cordinare But I don't

719
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: know if that's enough to turn this defense around. They

720
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: finished thirty one thirty one, and if you can see

721
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: the past three seasons, so that's gonna be a problem.

722
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: And then their biggest strength last year was their offensive line,

723
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: and they decided to bowl that all up and got

724
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: rid of three of them. Then they brought in Kenyan

725
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: Drake for two years eleven million to back up Josh Jacobs.

726
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: So they made some interesting moves. And you know this division, um,

727
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: and I'm factoring in you know, Aaron Rodgers going to

728
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: this division at a much higher percent than you guys, um,

729
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: so that's probably adding a little bit more value on

730
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: the under. But I mean, imagine this division with Patrick Mahomes,

731
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and Aaron Rodgers, and you got this at

732
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: under seven. Even if Aaron Rodgers doesn't end up going

733
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: to the Broncos, I still like this. That's why I'm

734
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: pulling the trigger now. Um. As of now I have, UM,

735
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: you know, the Raiders winning six or fewer games forty

736
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: six percent at the time and eight or more thirty

737
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: three percent at the time, So I think, you know,

738
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: seven's a good number, but there's certainly more value taking

739
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: the under here. I love bet against the Raiders in

740
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: this division. I think it's I think it's perfect signon

741
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: using me I know he does. Yeah, I don't even

742
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: have to waste time on them for from my under ears,

743
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I um, people are gonna hate it because they think

744
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm a dire Egos fan, but Eagles under man six

745
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: and a half had a grade out of five point seven.

746
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: I just think that too many people are just falling

747
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: to love with the idea of Jalen Hurts instead of

748
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: watching the tape and looking at the numbers of what

749
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: he did last year, where I think he could be

750
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: a good quarterback, but I just think of him as again,

751
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: Eagles took him high up, but it's one of those

752
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: where it's like a Russell Wilson effect. He would have

753
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: been a fourth or fifth round quarterback in Russell Wilson exists,

754
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: and I do love the weapons they put around him.

755
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: But the Eagles just have so much dysfunction in that

756
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: organization right now that I still think that's way too

757
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: many wins for a team that I just see finishing

758
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: fourth in that division and going to another terrible team Detroit. Uh.

759
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: I know I talked to much. I love them. Week

760
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: one to pull up an offset that might be just

761
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: like the Jaguars, I'll be it. Maybe they'll go one

762
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: in fifteen or one in sixteen now. But everything I

763
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: look at Detroit, they just seem like a team that's

764
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: in full tank mode. And I like what he's doing.

765
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna build. He's building up a D line and

766
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: O line, but the rest of the pieces around those

767
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: pieces are just terrible. So looking at just the strength

768
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: of schedule and everything like that, Detroit get into five

769
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: wins or four and a half wins is going to

770
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: be very tough. So I have them great out of

771
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: less than four wins. So I like that Detroit under

772
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 1: I will say that saying the numbers five wins, six

773
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: wins in a seventeen game season sounds dramatically easier to

774
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: achieve than in a sixteen game season. It does. We've

775
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: seen a shift in the NFL, though. We saw last

776
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: year where again not we're not saying the Jacks and

777
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: the Jets were tanking, but let's be serious here, we

778
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: saw the organization kind of supporting a tank mode for

779
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So we've just seen a change in the

780
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: guard in the NFL. Where guys used to play for pride,

781
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: you don't really see that as much anymore. I mean, yeah,

782
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: there might have weeks where they played for Pride. But

783
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: these coaches, they can say they're not trying to take

784
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: these games. And man Nest year was brutal some of

785
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: these end of games with some of these bad teams.

786
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: So I'm not falling for it again, Detroit, I have

787
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: to take the under. What do you think that one? Sean? Uh, yeah,

788
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in line with Detroit. I think there's certainly

789
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: value on the under. This is a team clearly tanking.

790
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: But Simon and you're out one of those people that

791
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: think because they have Jared Gothic quarterback, they're kind of

792
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: tank proof. It's gonna be hard for them to tank.

793
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Man I really cannot wait to see him without McVeigh

794
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: in his year. It's truly gonna be magical. Now he

795
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: have some meat head coach. What it's gonna be like

796
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: for golf quarterback in Detroit receivers either Dan Campbell can

797
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: be an alien because Dan Campbell likes to eat knee caps.

798
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that aliens are also cannibals and so and

799
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: they feast on the flesh. Uh, Simon, this this is

800
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: very helpful to me, Sean and and Simon and hopefully

801
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: to our listeners. I want to transition to our next

802
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: segment here, you said, you know, in deference to the

803
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: Volume podcast network sponsors fan Duel, you happen to go

804
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: to FanDuel because you are a good soldier, and you're like, hey,

805
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: what are all the bets I can make on FanDuel

806
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: for the NFL? Right now? That can totally take advantage

807
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: of FanDuel. So uh, let's go to our action network

808
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: take advantage of fan Duel newsdesk. Simon, please tell us

809
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: what you're seeing right now in the field, Tintin. So again,

810
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: these are crazy long shot upsides. Last year, you would

811
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: have thought I was crazy if I told you to

812
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: take green Bay have the best record, just because even

813
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: like last year, Jad you were debating even taking the

814
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: over of nine for green Bay. So that's what I mean.

815
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm looking for, is that teams that

816
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: people are down on that they have the upside. There Saints,

817
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: I love the Saints upside. I have no idea if

818
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are gonna work out. Okay, it could be

819
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: an absolute disaster, but I saw Drew Breese and had

820
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: a good quarterback last year lead that team to a

821
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: great record. So to me, plus three thousand two right

822
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: now to have best record in NFL on Fandel for

823
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: the Saints, I think that's really good value in the

824
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: team that they don't need Payson Hill to be the

825
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback ever. They just need him to fit in

826
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: the machine that is the Saints. So all the pieces

827
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: they have there, I think there's really good value on

828
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: that number. That's it. Those are the two. Uh No,

829
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: I have a ton um. Okay, So what does corner

830
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: think of the Saints with the best record? Yeah? I

831
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: like that and the Packers too, especially again if you

832
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers gonna stay to one, Yeah, that's definitely

833
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: a good beat. And I can get behind the Saints too.

834
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: I think that's why of those things. There's a very

835
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: low floor for that team because we don't know what

836
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna work out, but there's certainly a high ceiling

837
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: if Jamis Winston figures it out. Um, if you know,

838
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: I think they'll continue using Taysom Hill and his own packages.

839
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: But like, I love the upside on both teams, especially

840
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: if you think Rodgers gonna stay in green back. Give

841
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: me one more signment, because then I want you to

842
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: be able to talk to your best friend Lee buff

843
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: so I rarely would recommend this, and again this is uh,

844
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: this is on Fandel. You you might be able to

845
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: find better odds elsewhere, but we won't, Sarah elsewhere the

846
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: Chiefs to go seventeen and oh, I really do this,

847
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: but there's certain books that have them at forty to one.

848
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: They have them right now to one to go seventeen.

849
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: And now I get it. It's a stupid bet. I

850
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: just love it because I just love my homes coming

851
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: to this year really piste off. I know their division

852
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: is really tough, FC is really tough, but this everything

853
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: lines up where I could just see the Chiefs. Even

854
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: my homes is talking about it. They asked him what

855
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: his goal is this year. He said his dreams to

856
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: go twenty and oh that's the goal now for the

857
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: rest of his life, he wants to go twenty and now,

858
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: so to me, a guy like that motivated, that's the

859
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: only person I'd be putting that kind of money on.

860
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: So I like the odds right now, Fandel for the

861
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs to go seventeen. And now as you said that,

862
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: no joke. The second you said at I've gotten alert

863
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: on my smartphone from ESPN that said Mahomes twenty and

864
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: oh would be awesome, says his goal is for the

865
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs to go undefeated and become NFL's first twenty and

866
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: OH team. Nick right, First things first on Fox Sports

867
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: and Kevin Wilds the hosts. They're the two panelists there.

868
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: When the schedule came out, We're going back and forth

869
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: back and forth on the Chiefs and Nick Wright is

870
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: from Kansas City, uh and and I love Nick write,

871
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: one of the smartest guys in this business. Made an

872
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: incredible case for the Chiefs to go undefeated, that you

873
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: could see them getting through the first ten games and

874
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: maybe their biggest competition might be Dallas late in the season.

875
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: Now it's it's honestly, they're the only team on top

876
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: of my head I can think of that there. They

877
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: only can lose if they choose to lose, Like, there's

878
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: no point my Homes could be down fourth team in

879
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. When I'm holding my Homes Chiefs money line,

880
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm still not worried yet. It's it's the craziest feeling

881
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: I have ever with that quarterback. So that's the only

882
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: reason I'd even give this out because it's such a

883
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: chalk bet. But again, the way the math works out.

884
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: Same at Home Place. For twenty years, you're been a

885
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: grand each year. You only have to hit it once

886
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: and you can hedge out like we sold Brady in

887
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl against the Giants. You're gonna have the

888
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: value there to hedge out on this number. So I

889
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: just think there's good value they're embedding it. Sean, what is?

890
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: What is? What is Chad say about the Chiefs going undefeated?

891
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: When you do the simulations, I'm gonna have to run

892
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: Chad after this. Um, it'll take some time to set up,

893
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: but I don't like is not running okay? Um, but yeah,

894
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: things like this, it's hard. You have to factor in

895
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: sort of um things like that where Patrick Mahomes is

896
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: saying he wants to go and I would, um, you know,

897
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: boost the odds a little bit. When someone's trying and

898
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, if they're sixteen and O and they have

899
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: the number ones he locked up, obviously they're playing their starters,

900
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: so they're gonna try for it. So whatever Chad says,

901
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: I had boosted a little bit. So Chad's kind of irrelevant.

902
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: Right now. I'm gonna go Simon on this. I think yeah, one, Um,

903
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: you know that's probably worth a few bucks. Chad's never irrelevant, Sean. Now,

904
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: Chad's hurt that you said Chads are relevant. So Chad

905
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: has feelings? Now? No, Well, you know what, that's a

906
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: great point. Only the Aliens could make a next level

907
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: point like that. Listen, guys, this is fantastic corner. I

908
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: think you should stick around for a second. Michael Leeboff

909
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: jumped on, we know that he was Simon Hunter's first

910
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: choice for he might be an alien at the Action Network.

911
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: We know that he loves the Islanders more than anything,

912
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: and the Islanders are now tied with the Bruins one

913
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: one in the Stanley Cup playoffs. He might hate the

914
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Toronto Maple Leafs and John Tavaris as much as he

915
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: loves the Islanders. They were knocked out after losing three

916
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: one lead to the Montreal Canadiens. Michael lebo, what are

917
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: you doing on this podcast? Our producer Matt Mitchell said, Hey,

918
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: show up at two o'clock and I had to hear

919
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: about this uh San Diego Chargers offensive line for for

920
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: six minutes we had it. Rather than continuing to rest

921
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: on my laurels from what was probably the best sports

922
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: night of my life last night. Number one, we know

923
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: you don't like the NFL. It's now the Los Angeles

924
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: Chargers for the past couple of years. Number two, Simon

925
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: Hunter asked a very important question, and I know you're

926
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: gonna have an opinion on this. Uh, do you believe

927
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: in aliens? Yeah? See how quick that yes was, Chad.

928
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it strengthens my argument. I wanted the

929
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: odds just be like like heavily skewed towards yes, And

930
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: like sometimes I just think some animals are aliens, like

931
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: the greenland shark. Do you guys know about greenland sharks?

932
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: They like swim in the North Atlantic and they can

933
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: live for like four hundred years. Nobody knew those things

934
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: existed until, like, you know, maybe a hundred years ago

935
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: or lesson. So maybe they just kind of dropped down

936
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, we'll just be the We'll

937
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: just swim around here and watching history unfold in the

938
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: North Atlantic for four years. I'm with you. I believe

939
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: there are aliens, full stop. And I'm not afraid to

940
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: say it. I'm not afraid to admit it. I firmly

941
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: believe it. I firmly believe it because I said to Simon,

942
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: I think it's arrogant to believe that we're the only

943
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: intelligent form in the universe. But you just made it

944
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: a odds driven argument, which is interesting. And I love

945
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: that you decided they weren't coming for harm. They're just

946
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: sort of dropping in. Well, if they were coming from harm,

947
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: weren't they already have done it, like before our technology advanced?

948
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Like if they were here, like why wouldn't you just

949
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: like drop in and like two thousan BC when they

950
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: were whittling stone or whatever you do to stone. So

951
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: I assume they're just here to maybe hang out watch

952
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: them hockey. I once went to a Yankee Red Sox

953
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: game with my buddy Handsome. We're smoking weed on top

954
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: of a garage like in the Bronx, and that obviously

955
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: led to some you know, interesting conversation. And while the

956
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: Yankees and Red Sox were unfolding in froun of Us,

957
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: we were talking about what an alien would think if

958
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: they had just kind of like landed in the middle

959
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: of this game, be like, what the hell is going on?

960
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: Why are these there are thousands of these earthlings just

961
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: watching these other earthlings in uniforms, and why are they

962
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: why are the coaches wearing the same uniform those don't

963
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: coaches usually not wear uniforms in this on this planet.

964
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 1: But then we realized we were talking for like thirty

965
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: minutes and the people around us, we're probably like, we

966
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: gotta get these kids away from us and fucking losers.

967
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: Handsome as the liquor salesman, right, handsome as the liquor salesman. Yeah, yeah,

968
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: all right. Do you want to talk about the greatest

969
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: sports night of your life? You want to break it

970
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: down for people. I think a huge part of being

971
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: a sports fan is is like reveling in the misery

972
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: of your rivals. And I think that like anyone who

973
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: who doesn't understand that is maybe not cut out for it.

974
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: Because what happened with the Islanders in with John Tavaras,

975
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: like the Islanders have always been on shaky ground, right,

976
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: so they had a franchise cornerstone. He had always committed

977
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: himself to the Islanders and said, like he understands the plight,

978
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: like he knows him leaving would have some huge ramifications

979
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: for the franchise um and could like doom it basically,

980
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: And then he left for the place that we like

981
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: if he had left to go to the San jos

982
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: A Sharks, it wouldn't be a big deal, but he

983
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: like he's from Toronto. The day the Islanders drafted him

984
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine, there are articles about how long

985
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: it would take for Tavares to go to Toronto. He

986
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: always said they were bullshit and then just basically lied

987
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: to our faces for whatever it was eight nine years

988
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: um then goes goes to Toronto. They have a really

989
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: good team. They haven't won anything since nineteen sixty seven.

990
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: They haven't won a playoff series since two thousand four,

991
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: but their fan base on the media coverage, you'd think

992
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: that they were, you know, the Patrick Mahomes Chiefs or whatever.

993
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: It's sickening stuff. It's very disturbing. Any every time that

994
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: they get eliminated from the playoffs in the first round

995
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: is if it's a holiday. And the fact that the

996
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: Islanders twenty minutes after the Maple Leice got eliminated win

997
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: and overtime. By the way, the Islanders have now won

998
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: four playoff series at least four best of seven since

999
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: Tavaris left. He's one zero. So it was a great night.

1000
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: I was up till five in the morning watching highlights

1001
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: of the Leaves losing watching like I was listening to

1002
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: Toronto Sports Radio. I woke up this morning told Alexa

1003
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: to turn on Toronto Sports Radio. She obliged. It was great.

1004
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: And the sick thing is like the Islanders had a

1005
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: huge winless night, one of their biggest wins in years.

1006
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: I haven't even had a chance to to properly celebrate

1007
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: that one because I'm just dancing on the maple leaves

1008
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: grapes for I don't know. I told myself to like

1009
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: eight pm tonight. Playoff hockey is the greatest. It's like

1010
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: the way you talk about Toronto is how I feelbout

1011
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: the Penguins, Like obviously, like Philadelphia the Penguins, that's are

1012
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: like instead arrival, we took care of the Penguins for you,

1013
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: exactly like nastional Colisy and ate them up. And I'm

1014
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: all in on the Islanders because of you, obviously, And

1015
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: I wrote down that whole series and I took them

1016
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: last night and it's just been a blessing. But man,

1017
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: playoff hockey, dude, the ot like I don't know, like

1018
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: like obviously you're a Diard fan. Sweating man. I was

1019
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: literally sweating down my back. That was one of the

1020
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: better hockey games I watched probably these playoffs. My wife

1021
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: is a Bruins fan too, and she she the Bruins

1022
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: came back from three one down, She's like, you don't

1023
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: need to be a brad about it, and I was

1024
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: being complete bratt like I was like not talking to

1025
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: her for a while. She said some a lot of

1026
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: mean stuff about me, but it was all right, like

1027
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm mature enough to admit that, but I'm definitely not

1028
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: mature enough to change it. Like, let's playoff hockey. It's

1029
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: life or death. I'm not gonna, you know, be happy

1030
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: for her if the Bruins come back. She's she actually

1031
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: felt so bad for me because of like how pathetic

1032
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: I was acting that she started to be like, oh,

1033
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: that was a good win for the Islanders, a good job, Like,

1034
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, And if it was she was

1035
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: on the other foot, it would have just been a disaster.

1036
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: I think. So casey czekis who scored the overtime winner,

1037
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: he might have, you know, saved my marriage, which is

1038
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: I guess good. This podcast has gotten so off the

1039
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: rails that I cannot believe leapoff becomes a surprise guest,

1040
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: and we end up talking about hockey. For this long corner,

1041
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: you've been awfully quiet. I have nothing to say about hockey.

1042
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: This is payback for Leapoff having to listen to me

1043
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: talk about the San Diego Chargers offensive line. Right, So

1044
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: I just thought ticket, I mean, look, here's how the

1045
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: nflc is gonna go. Everybody. There are gonna be a

1046
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: couple of good teams playing each other in the winter.

1047
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: One coach is gonna not kick a field goal. Everyone's

1048
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: gonna freak out about it, and then the two two

1049
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: other teams will play in the super Bowl. One of

1050
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: them will win, and that will be it, and we'll

1051
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: start all over again. It all comes down to a

1052
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: time out in a field goal decision every season, and

1053
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how that drama can outweigh what

1054
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: we saw last night at the t D Garden when

1055
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: the Islanders just stopped the Bruins. Listen, that's how we

1056
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: know Leeboff Early is an alien. He doesn't understand American football.

1057
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: I understand it, I just don't appreciate it. Really, Leeboff

1058
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: Islander series is tied right now, one one before we go,

1059
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: give me your handicap of the Islanders chances to win

1060
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Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup versus where their current odds are. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any value like if from a strictly

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Speaker 1: value perspective, right there's no value and backing basically any

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Speaker 1: team right now. But if you're looking for a ride,

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Speaker 1: right we want to just hit your wagon to a team,

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Speaker 1: I think the Islanders or maybe one of the Canadian

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Speaker 1: teams would probably give you the best ride right now

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Speaker 1: because the or is good. The Islanders play a very

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Speaker 1: physical game. I do think that they're much like there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of models out there that thought the

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Speaker 1: Islanders were about thirty three percent or less against the Bruins.

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Speaker 1: I just think that underrates them. If you want to

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Speaker 1: bet theom right now, like you just bet the series

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Speaker 1: line and just remember, I mean, it's it's right now.

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Speaker 1: It's one one, it's a best of five, and three

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Speaker 1: of those games are going to be taking place at

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Speaker 1: the Nassau Coliseum, which um, as you saw at Game

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Speaker 1: six after you denied my invitation, it wasn't even declined

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Speaker 1: like it was more it was more rude than that.

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Speaker 1: You denied an invitation to the Closseum, which was really weird.

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Speaker 1: Because I can't imagine a better environment in sports than

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Speaker 1: what was going on in game six. I'll let you

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Speaker 1: come again if you want. They got Thursday Saturday. I'd

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Speaker 1: suggest coming Saturday. Thursday will be pretty angsty. The best

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Speaker 1: of five where they have home ice advantage. Now like

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Speaker 1: it's it's closer to a coin flip than the odds

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Speaker 1: will suggest, but it's they're still they still should be underdogs.

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Speaker 1: Saturday is not gonna work for me. That's your loss. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's really your loss. The catharsis that that you will

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Speaker 1: not get to experiences by celebrating a goal at the

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Speaker 1: NASA call Seue. I'm going to get to a game

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Speaker 1: at the Nassau Call Seume with you. It just won't

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Speaker 1: be Saturday, my own. This is the last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're going to advance, so I'll go in the next round.

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Speaker 1: Nice attitude. I'm a broken man. Find optimism, believe in

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Speaker 1: Love's try I say something that's going to kind of

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Speaker 1: sound it. Okay, Yeah, I just wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: you know, it's more day a weekend. A lot of

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Speaker 1: like I have friends who are vets um. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't know this, but suicide rate among veterans

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Speaker 1: is crazy high. Even if you're friends on the military.

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Speaker 1: Just reach out to people. People are still going through

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Speaker 1: tough times. It's just a good reminder, like you never know,

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Speaker 1: so definitely checking on people. It's a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of downtime right now, so definitely reach out to friends.

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Speaker 1: I love that you said that. That's a great message.

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Speaker 1: Completely agree with it. Listen, Simon, you're like the heart

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Speaker 1: and the soul and the conscience of this podcast, and

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Speaker 1: so when you say things like that, people should take

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Speaker 1: them seriously. Yeah, you really took my alien theme. You

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Speaker 1: ran with it all shop is pretty impressive. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was fascinating. It's a fascinating conversation. But more more

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Speaker 1: fascinating is that Sean Corner has renamed the most important

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Speaker 1: device in his life not just an engine that powers

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Speaker 1: what he does, but a lot of the engine that

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Speaker 1: powers the Action network and somehow it has now been

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Speaker 1: renamed chat. Think about that. This has been the favorite

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Speaker 1: podcast from the Volume podcast network. We will be back

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Speaker 1: on Thursday for the Thunderdome addition to Big Thunderdome Addition.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, download the podcast from Apple podcast, from Spotify,

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast, love you and leave off.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Islanders.