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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noah.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Alexis code named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly,

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Speaker 3: you are here. That makes this the stuff they don't

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Speaker 3: want you to know now. As you know, folks, we

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Speaker 3: do a lot of episodes for this show, and one

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Speaker 3: of the things that keeps us going is that once

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Speaker 3: a week, once an evening, we get to hear from

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Speaker 3: the best part of the show, which is you. So

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Speaker 3: in between being in our podcast minds for the crazy

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Speaker 3: episodes we do, we make space to hear from the

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Speaker 3: luminaries of this show, which are to be fully transparent,

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Speaker 3: not us, they are you. And recently, as we get rolling,

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Speaker 3: recently we recorded a breaking news episode, an actual episode

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Speaker 3: on the attempted assassination of a guy you might know

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Speaker 3: from home Alone two. His name is Donald J. Trump

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Speaker 3: and you know where the lobby was. That's for sure.

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Speaker 3: He did he did, He had his finger on the

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Speaker 3: pulse on that one, and we received something real quick

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Speaker 3: that we wanted to address at the top. We got

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Speaker 3: a letter from our friend we'll call Doctor J. And

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Speaker 3: Doctor J said, hey, team, big fan of the podcast,

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Speaker 3: excited to hear your takes on this meaning the attempted assassination,

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Speaker 3: and said with love, Butler, Pennsylvania is now we're outside

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Speaker 3: of Pittsburgh. I live here in Pittsburgh, I was yelling

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Speaker 3: at the episode. Butler is a good six hours from Philadelphia,

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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania's big state. We are here in Pittsburgh too. To

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Speaker 3: answer your suburb question, I'd say people in Butler will

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Speaker 3: tell you it's a suburb of Pittsburgh, and people in

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Speaker 3: which goes to our Daia have exurbs. Well, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: like I was, you know what it was? It was.

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Speaker 4: I think we did the episode like the next day.

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Speaker 4: Everything was still very fresh. And I've never claimed to

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Speaker 4: be particularly great at geography, but I just blurted out

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Speaker 4: there's of course other cities in Pennsylvania too, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: six hours away from Philadelphia, this community would be.

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Speaker 3: And with this, we have some folks traveling in the

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Speaker 3: area in the near future. We've got some folks in

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Speaker 3: are grateful to hear from you. As we dive in.

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Speaker 3: We're going to hear from a monarch asterisk. We have

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Speaker 3: not verified these bona fides we're going to. We're going

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Speaker 3: to have a conversation about life and outer space before

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Speaker 3: we do any of that. Have you ever felt the

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Speaker 3: ads we're looking at you and we've returned with a

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Speaker 3: message from you. Yes, you.

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Speaker 4: In this case, the you and question is Charlie, and

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Speaker 4: I think this is something that we've all probably thought

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Speaker 4: and it is not necessarily a gender specific but let's

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Speaker 3: Let's jump right in. Charlie has this to say.

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Speaker 4: Listening to listener mail and you guys talking about weight

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Speaker 4: loss drugs made me think of one of my recent

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Speaker 4: experiences with problematic targeted advertising. I struggle with mental health issues, depression,

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Speaker 4: My therapist recommended journaling, and to make it easier, I

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Speaker 4: The content of my journal entries is raw, unfiltered emotion

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Speaker 4: And while I know we've you know, for decades, you know,

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Speaker 4: conducted by Global Polling for Strategy Want, when in sixty

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Speaker 3: Now they're reading your damn journal entries.

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Speaker 4: It's just I mean, I was blown away when I

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Speaker 4: Sorry, not twenty years ago, ten ten years you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm getting hit with all these Instagram ads for like

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Speaker 2: Into me too.

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Speaker 4: And I know I'm not saying that we're the same, Charlie,

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Speaker 4: but I'm just saying that it is a thing that

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Speaker 3: I'm not even I'm not journaling in my phone.

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Speaker 4: I write occasional dumb song lyrics and my notepad on

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Speaker 3: I still get served with this stuff that really makes.

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Speaker 4: Me kind of hate myself sometimes and it sucks, and

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Speaker 4: it's so incredibly manipulative and insidious, and I think definitely

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Speaker 3: Don't even read it out loud next to your phone.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, guys, I'm anxious about your thought because I

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Speaker 4: know we've talked about is it paranoia to think that

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, let me let me step back a second,

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Speaker 3: and Noel, thank you for sharing sharing your experience with

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Speaker 3: to to tonight's listener mail program. Charlie, most importantly, I

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Speaker 3: First off, social media and the advertising game overall will

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Speaker 3: To the question that Nul raised here, the targeting works,

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Speaker 3: but in in perhaps a couple different ways from what

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Speaker 3: The idea is the following. If you are on a

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Speaker 3: conceivably possibly change the tenor of the ads you receive

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Speaker 3: This is, unfortunately, the predatory nature of advertising, far before

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Speaker 4: That article is from twenty thirteen, and of course there's

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Speaker 4: They will target those blocks of time. And just to

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Speaker 4: quaint because it seems so much weren't personalized, individualistically targeted

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Speaker 3: I will note one thing that advertising is very good

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Speaker 3: at is centering other people. Right, You'll you'll very unless

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Speaker 3: there is a pr disaster, you'll very rarely get Nike saying,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about us. Let's talk about like sticker Mule.

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Speaker 3: has put out a very tone deaf thing about in

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Speaker 3: the wake of the assassination attempt on Trump. They want

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Speaker 3: to also maybe sell some stickers and merche based on this.

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Speaker 3: The thing about capitalism is capitalism is the system that

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Speaker 3: has so far most effectively weaponized the ability of turning

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Speaker 3: insecurity against the observer or the participant. Capitalism is the

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Speaker 2: Guys, doesn't it suck that we live in a system

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Speaker 5: But what does that do to us overall?

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Speaker 3: Right, Like, I get a lot of ads for subscription

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Speaker 4: And for me, that that that rabbit is already out

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I saw it, guys.

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Speaker 2: It was just one of these random instant gram reels,

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Speaker 3: Knowle everybody please check out. UH wrote a ridiculous history

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Speaker 4: I was looking on redded about this topic about you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just saying, you know, it's a tool,

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Speaker 2: And we've returned and we're jumping to the phone lines

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Speaker 2: to hear from the King John. Now, word to the wise,

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Speaker 2: this is two different voicemails that are smashed together into one.

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Speaker 5: Here's King John.

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, this is King John. I got something that

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Speaker 7: I know they don't want you to know. Do you

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Speaker 6: If they write that down on the prescription, Dad, your

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Speaker 6: in this situation would include Kale Andrews twenty dollars a

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Speaker 7: You can do whatever you want, you can do whatever

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Speaker 6: Have ever done, it's just say building shots the doctor.

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Speaker 6: If you write that plam again, insurance company has to

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Speaker 6: Stuff they don't want you to know is that your

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Speaker 6: But either way, I'm done calling you guys. You guys,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, tobyde Oh wow, King John, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for that information. Guys. This is very opening for

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Speaker 2: And I've gone down just a minor rabbit hole thus far.

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Speaker 2: But I've definitely looked at that specific publication five h

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Speaker 3: Long as one has the wherewithal to push against them

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Oh also I want to real quick, King John, thank

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Speaker 3: you you're my new favorite monarch.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we generally don't like those round Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, not to make it about me, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting though, how like obscured it is though,

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Speaker 3: Well that's what John's saying, King John, excuse me, is saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, essentially a doctor's note which insurance will respond

438
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Speaker 3: to Is that correct, Matt, you're doing anything?

439
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're correct.

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Speaker 2: It's just ah, this is an IRS document, right, which means,

441
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Speaker 2: as you were saying, Ben, you gotta have find you know,

442
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Speaker 2: some insurance company that is cool with the way this

443
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: is worded. And wouldn't want to battle the words specifically

444
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: in a court of law because.

445
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Speaker 3: Of representation to keep them honest.

446
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Speaker 2: Probably arbitration is how it would be. But it says

447
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Speaker 2: you can't include the cost of diet food or beverages

448
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: in medical expenses because the diet food and beverages substitute

449
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: what is normally consumed to satisfy nutritional needs. And King

450
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: John said this part you can include the cost of

451
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Speaker 2: special food in medical expenses only if and then it

452
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: lists three things and it doesn't say or. It says and,

453
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Speaker 2: which is very important. So the food doesn't satisfy normal

454
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: nutritional needs, the food alleviates or treats an illness, and

455
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Speaker 2: the need for the food is substantial by a physician.

456
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: That and is one of those things that I bet

457
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: you could argue all day in court.

458
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: That AND's doing a lot of work, right.

459
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: Because it's not an and or Nope, it's an addition

460
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: to exactly. But I man just hearing this from somebody

461
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 2: who King John, you speak very confidently about this in

462
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: a way that you know your stuff. I'd love to

463
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: if you want to call back in and just give

464
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: us just how you know this, even that would be great.

465
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: An email would be great, That would be really really great.

466
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: But there is something to this because business insiders talking

467
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: about NPR has been talking about it for a while.

468
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: They are saying that you can get a prescription for

469
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 2: healthy foods for like a basically stuff that comes from

470
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Speaker 2: a local farmer's market, from your doctor.

471
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Speaker 3: You know what I love about this bet and what

472
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: I love about this, King John, There's something that calls

473
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Speaker 3: out to the act of this to me, the idea

474
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Speaker 3: of food security right, which should which, by the way,

475
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: low key. It doesn't make it to the news often,

476
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: but low key food security is national security, which is

477
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: why the European Union has all those crazy subsidies to

478
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 3: make sure you can still grow food in the European Union.

479
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: So the idea of combating food deserts this way is

480
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: tremendous and it would be How amazing would it be

481
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: where they're a positive just to finish this part, how

482
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: amazing would it be were they're a positive conspiracy to

483
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: empower people to fight against food deserts.

484
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Speaker 4: I mean, I just remember when I was a lot younger,

485
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: and it was a young parent, you know, and not

486
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Speaker 4: established in a career and still kind of finishing college,

487
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Speaker 4: and it was unexpected. I you know, that we were

488
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Speaker 4: on government food assistance for a little while.

489
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Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with that, No, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It was how we did it for a time, and

491
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: absolutely nothing wrong with it. But what I'm saying is

492
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Speaker 4: in Georgia, or maybe it was specific to Athens, because

493
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Speaker 4: Athletes is kind of a bit of a progressive little

494
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: bubble in some In many ways, you could take your

495
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 4: Wick points or whatever it was and get double their

496
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: value at the Athens Farmers Market, which was a weekly

497
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: fresh fruits and vegetables and meats, you know, different vendors

498
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Speaker 4: from around the state. You'd get two for one for

499
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Speaker 4: your dollar basically. And I think that was a really

500
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Speaker 4: good program to encourage eating better, eating whole foods and

501
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Speaker 4: fruits and vegetables and things like that. And I just

502
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Speaker 4: wonder if there's anything like that, you know, going on anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it does appear that there are several programs. There's

504
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: one that the Business Insider is talking about specifically in

505
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: they're calling it Low Income Neighborhoods in twelve different states,

506
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Speaker 2: including California, Texas, Florida, New York, and Minnesota where they

507
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: had PACE. There were patients in all those states who

508
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: had higher risk for cardiovascular problems and they were basically

509
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: provided classes and then a fairly small amount of monthly

510
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: money to specifically buy produce fruits and vegetables. And this

511
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: is a study that was done basically to see if

512
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Speaker 2: the fruits and vegetables actually played a role in those

513
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 2: places that have food insecurity, right, where if you are

514
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Speaker 2: using a program like WICK, or you're not using a

515
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Speaker 2: program like WICK, what are the food choices?

516
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Speaker 3: Right?

517
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Speaker 2: And then how how does that change somebody's overall health?

518
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Speaker 2: It is a little weird. They found that the changes

519
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: in diet that were provided by this program were only

520
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: about half as effective as the primary medicines that would

521
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Speaker 2: be prescribed for somebody who is at risk for cardiovascular

522
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: disease or something like that. But still that's not too shabby,

523
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: and it's not exactly related to what we're talking about here,

524
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 2: but it is.

525
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Speaker 5: It's something close.

526
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Speaker 3: I would argue, with great respect to interject here that

527
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: they are related in that they are preventative medicine. Nutrition

528
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: is preventative medicine at its core. You know, not to

529
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: quote stick Man too often, but stick if you're listening

530
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: big fans, let your food be your medicine as right

531
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: on that that respect, and the argument is here that

532
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: it is simple. It is simple to empower people with

533
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Speaker 3: access to preventative medicine phrased as both healthy food and

534
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: phrased as what you're describing there, Matt, like the preventative

535
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: you know, medications that are required to be prescribed by

536
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Speaker 3: a doctor. Now will future historians look back and say

537
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: it's an unnecessary series of hoops for someone to have

538
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: to jump through just to get some food that doesn't

539
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: hurt them later perhaps, but we'll have to wait until

540
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: we're in the future to say that. What I really

541
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: appreciate about King John your message here is that you

542
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: are by by sending us this, and Matt, thank you

543
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: for sharing this, we are empowering everybody listening. You know,

544
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: we know it's a slog. Private insurance often tries to

545
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: kill people with paperwork, and I would argue that is

546
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: not hyperbole, not.

547
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: To well, It's helped us learn about things like project

548
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: open Hand, which is something I had never heard of before.

549
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Apparently there's one in Atlanta, guys. You can go to

550
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: openhand Atlanta dot org to learn about this. But they

551
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: are providing what is essentially or what they're calling food

552
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: as medicine, so like specifically prepared foods to help people

553
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: with certain maladies, whatever they're going through. It seems really interesting.

554
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: You know, you can, I don't know you can argue

555
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: the science behind nutrition as the most important thing and

556
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: to be used as a medicine or.

557
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 5: Herbs or all that other stuff.

558
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: But it does seem like there is efficacy here when

559
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: it comes to getting certain nutrition for certain maladies, right,

560
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: certain vitamins and minerals that will play a part in,

561
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: let's say, preventing heart disease or at least pushing it back.

562
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Speaker 2: It's really interesting stuff. I want to learn more about them.

563
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: I don't know enough yet as of this momach so

564
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: I just found their website. But it's very very cool.

565
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: Oh and guys, I think we have time for one

566
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: more quick message. Our goodpal Brock Nests send us a

567
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: quick message and it's just for us, I think, but

568
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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and.

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Speaker 8: Here got I can't put even nerve. Yeah, I'm listening

570
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 8: to this podcast trying to forget about how I'm going

571
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 8: to die, and then you remind me that everything I

572
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 8: do is because I'm trying to distract myself from the

573
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Speaker 8: fact that I'm going to die. What I would like

574
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Speaker 8: to speak to the manager, By the way, it's the

575
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 8: Brocknest Monster, and I'm totally kidding. A great day.

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Speaker 5: Bye, here you go conversation.

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00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: All right, while we take this quick break, we'll send

578
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: the manager your way, brock Nest Monster.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: And we have returned. Brock always good to hear from you.

581
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Speaker 3: Fantatology that's the fancy word for the study of death.

582
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: The book that we reference there is the denial of death.

583
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: That is the theory proposed. Shout out to our pal

584
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Speaker 3: Josh Clark, who is out Egypt. Wade now as you

585
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: hear this, well, maybe back, but let me save you

586
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: some time and say that the thesis of that is

587
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: exactly as put in the earlier conversation. The the concept

588
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 3: being that people generally do things that are recreational beyond

589
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 3: reproductive or survival needs entirely to distract themselves from mortality.

590
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Speaker 3: Speaking of segues, here here is a response we got

591
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: from a good friend of ours out in the Netherlands

592
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: talking about a situation that fascinates a lot of us

593
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: here on the show and hopefully you as well, folks.

594
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Speaker 3: Most importantly, our buddy Luke writes in regarding the concept

595
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: of these mandatory speed limitters, which is a real thing.

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Speaker 3: Let's just give you the long and short of it,

597
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: Luke says, a Hi, guys, just wanted to point out

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Speaker 3: some corrections in your most recent Strange News program, First Geography,

599
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: you may have mixed up Ireland and Scotland. You mentioned

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Speaker 3: that the new regulations regarding speed limits would be active

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Speaker 3: if you just drive north enough from London. That is

602
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Speaker 3: not the case. The island of Great Britain, which encompasses England,

603
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: Wales and Scotland, would not be affected because the UK

604
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Speaker 3: is no longer part of the EU. Pausing here for

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Speaker 3: a second, because Matt, I think we talked through that

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: That might have been my bad. Maybe I said you

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Speaker 2: drive north. Just so everybody is aware, Ireland is a

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Speaker 2: whole separate thing from the UK.

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Speaker 3: Well part of it.

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Speaker 5: Well, well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but if you're looking at on a map, it

613
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: is like a whole separate island essentially.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, geographically yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, drive there unless you drive onto a boat and

616
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Speaker 2: then that boat drives across the water and does.

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Speaker 3: That counts yes, of course, which what about a case

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Speaker 3: ad you. So that's a great point, so Luke continues. Therefore,

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Speaker 3: if you drive just north from London, you will not

620
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: encounter cars that have the new speed limit regulations. It

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Speaker 3: will only be active in the European Union. This includes,

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Speaker 3: to our earlier point, the Republic of Ireland because it

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Speaker 3: is an EU member, as well as Northern Ireland, which

624
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: is not in the EU but has to comply with

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Speaker 3: many EU regulations. Because to your note, Matt, it is

626
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: on the same island. Yeah, it's like it's gonna look

627
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: so funny in the future. Always say yeah, it's the

628
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: same island, but not really. It's like Cyprus all over again,

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Speaker 3: hopefully with less less bloody fallout. So Luke says, the

630
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Speaker 3: Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland they share their customs area,

631
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Speaker 3: they share the same roads, they share the same infrastructure.

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Speaker 3: And then Luke says something that I think a lot

633
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Speaker 3: of US will find valid. The United Kingdom made a

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Speaker 3: really bad deal during Brexit regarding Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland

635
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: has to basically follow a lot of EU regulations while

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00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 3: the UK no longer has a say in those regulations

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00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: and no longer receives EU subsidies in Northern Ireland, while

638
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: also having to comply with EU standards and suggest a

639
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: future episode on Northern Ireland, which fully is fascinating, I believe. Yeah, yeah,

640
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: let's do it. Let's do it. So it also in

641
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: essence just to stop here, just have a restroom stop

642
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: here or rest stop here as we call them the US.

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Speaker 3: This is totally understandable. You have to do all the

644
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: requirements of the EU, yet you don't get the perceived

645
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: benefits of being in the EU. It's kind of like

646
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: having to pay your dues to a YMCA and not

647
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: ever getting to visit that YMCA.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not a fun situation to be in.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure Brussels is very happy that a couple

650
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Speaker 3: of Americans are referring to their great experiment as a YMCA. Secondly,

651
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: our buddy gives us fascinating commentary in a way that

652
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: was new to me about the state of automotive culture

653
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: in the EU overall. And again this is a conspiracy

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Speaker 3: realist from Amsterdam, a polyglot, as we'll find. So Luke says,

655
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Speaker 3: the speed limit thing is not such a contentious issue

656
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: here in the European Union because personal vehicle ownership is

657
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: not closely associated with freedom. If you live in a

658
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: city or even a suburb, like many Europeans do, personal

659
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: vehicle ownership has actually become kind of rare. And get

660
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: this guy's associated with a lack of freedom. Huh, right,

661
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: so directly opposite of what many Americans think. Right but

662
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: how though? But how but how luckily Luke's here for

663
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 3: us and says, great question. Matt, says Luke, because owning

664
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Speaker 3: a car means that it's usually the only only option

665
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Speaker 3: you have available, whereas not owning a car means that

666
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Speaker 3: you have usually a lot of options, for example, metro bus, walking,

667
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Speaker 3: cycle trains, rental cars if you wish. The car ownership

668
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: concept has become a kind of symbol for the lack

669
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Speaker 3: of freedom with that twentieth century car centric infrastructure forces

670
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: us into like we see when we visit US cities.

671
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Speaker 3: So it goes back to the old philosophical problem of

672
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Speaker 3: who is the prisoner? Right, It depends on which side

673
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Speaker 3: of the bars you see yourself.

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Speaker 2: But I have a hold on, hold on there, Luke.

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Speaker 2: If you've got a car, does that mean you can't

676
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Speaker 2: do those other things? You can't also have a bike

677
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Speaker 2: or walk?

678
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Speaker 3: I'm really glad you brought that up. I'm sorry I'm

679
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 3: making like a a gene Roddenberry Willie Walker face. But yes, yes,

680
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: it's a good question. It is because ostensibly having a

681
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Speaker 3: car would consign so one to continual financial expenditures, right, obviously,

682
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Speaker 3: But then it would not exclude one from utilizing those

683
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Speaker 3: other resources. Just walk to places, right, or you'll just

684
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Speaker 3: hop on your bike, you know. Luke continues and says,

685
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Speaker 3: I personally don't know many people who own a car,

686
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't be able to name someone who bought

687
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: one in the last five years. In my circle of acquaintances.

688
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: The only people who will discuss speed limit regulation with

689
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Speaker 3: me are on ironically, US ex patriots. Most of my

690
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: fellow EU citizens wouldn't even know why to be upset

691
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: about it. I don't know. I mean, it's a great

692
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: question because it's a very different culture, right, Like if

693
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Speaker 3: we were living in a large metro area of the

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Speaker 3: European Union. Let me ask you this, would you guys

695
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Speaker 3: own a car? I don't know now.

696
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: I mean same with like New York City. I mean,

697
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Speaker 4: it's almost like more trouble than it's worth. You have

698
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 4: to house the car, you got to pay for a

699
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 4: parting spot. It's just logistically very difficult unless you're needing

700
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Speaker 4: it to go on a long trip. Just doesn't make

701
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Speaker 4: any sense. For the most part. People can get by

702
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Speaker 4: with renting a car if they need one for like

703
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: a short term use for taking a road trip, But

704
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Speaker 4: in an urban situation like that that has decent public transit,

705
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Speaker 4: it's just way more trouble and expense than it's worth.

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Speaker 2: I think my brain, I think my experience might be

707
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Speaker 2: too bubbled here, Guys. I can't imagine not having a vehicle.

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Speaker 2: I honestly can't, just because I've never lived like in

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Speaker 2: a city, you know, in a very densely populated city area,

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Speaker 2: like in an apartment or something where I do feel

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00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: like everything's walkable or something. I'm just I've never had

712
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: that experience. So to me, if I didn't have a car,

713
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Speaker 2: I couldn't get groceries unless I, you know, did a

714
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Speaker 2: series of public transit or something to where I.

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Speaker 5: Could carry those groceries.

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Speaker 2: I guess I've just you know, because of my experience,

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Speaker 2: I cannot imagine not owning a vehicle.

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Speaker 4: There are certainly people that move to the big city

719
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Speaker 4: and share that perspective, and we'll hold onto their car

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Speaker 4: they figure they feel that it's worth it. Or if

721
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Speaker 4: you live in certain parts of like Brooklyn, say you

722
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: can find street parking around up a place that you've

723
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Speaker 4: that you're renting, but you gotta move it for street cleaning.

724
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Speaker 4: There's all kinds of extra little things that you have

725
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: to think about. It can get to a point where

726
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Speaker 4: you're like, is it worth it? Because even if you're

727
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Speaker 4: you know, if you're in Brooklyn or any part close

728
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Speaker 4: to like a metro area like that, you can do

729
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Speaker 4: your grocery shopping by walking down the street. And you

730
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Speaker 4: can do it a little at a time, because why

731
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Speaker 4: they got all those little bodegas.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to do the big shop.

733
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Speaker 4: You just kind of shop for what you need when

734
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Speaker 4: you need it, and just bring it in a sack,

735
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Speaker 4: you know, up to up your stairs and there you go.

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Speaker 3: The European Lucifer approaches you by your street parking and says,

737
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Speaker 3: what do you carrying all those bricks for? Kevin, It

738
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Speaker 3: is true that the Western Europe, as Luke says, basically,

739
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Speaker 3: any small, medium or large town offers great or adequate

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00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 3: public transit and has walkable, cyclable neighborhoods. To your point,

741
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Speaker 3: and if you really need a car, says Luke, there's

742
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Speaker 3: the opportunity to rent cars, maybe just for an hour

743
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Speaker 3: or for a few days. And Luke says where they live,

744
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: public transport providers have an integrated system where you can

745
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 3: use buses, trains, ferries and subways, as well as rental

746
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: bikes and rental cars should you need one with one

747
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: card for all of the things. All of that's super cool.

748
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Speaker 3: That's not a thing in the United States. Not no,

749
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Speaker 3: and Luke says these are insummation. These are the reasons

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Speaker 3: why the EU speed limit regulation hasn't had a lot

751
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: of opposition in Western Europe. It doesn't impact as many

752
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: people because car ownership rates are not that high to

753
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 3: begin with, and the safety advantages of speed limit regulation

754
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: outweigh theoretical disadvantages. Greetings from Amsterdam, Love your show, we're

755
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: gonna call We're gonna call this conspiracy realist, Luke, and

756
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: we're gonna Before we get to our closing act, I

757
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: want to give a big shout out to a very

758
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: like Netherlands Holland esque joke that Luke makes ending the

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00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: letter with apologies for grammar mistakes. English is my fourth language.

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00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: I'm brushings, brushing the shoulders. Yeah, and it was beautifully written.

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Speaker 3: There were no grammar mistakes, Luke. Luke, you nailed it that,

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Speaker 3: I said.

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Speaker 4: I actually read that out loud to uh, to my

764
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: my kid and their mom. I thought that was just

765
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: a funny thing, very clever. It probably likely meant to

766
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Speaker 4: be self deprecating. I don't think it was like a flex.

767
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Speaker 4: I think it was genuine.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I've hung out in Amsterdam and

769
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Speaker 3: that that's kind of vibe with the comedy, the comedy scene.

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Speaker 3: Good will be beautiful people. Before we close this evening's

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00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 3: listener mail started a thing a little while back called

772
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: letters from Home, not pertinent news, not necessarily responses to stuff,

773
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: just find how you doing a little bit of a

774
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: prairie home Companion and the torch has been picked up collectively,

775
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: so Noel, you found a letter from home that you

776
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: would like to share, and I think we're all super

777
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: on board with it. Just a quick one.

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Speaker 4: And this is where we're gonna have to give a nickname,

779
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 4: because this is an individual that I believe would want

780
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: his name out there because he's a published author, Matt Ingwilson,

781
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 4: and he had this to say. And yesterday strange news episode,

782
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 4: you wondered what if absolutely everyone had all their passwords

783
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: stolen at once. I couldn't resist emailing you to tell you.

784
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Speaker 4: That's the exact setup of my novel, The Nihilisticicats, which

785
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 4: is a really clever name. The characters also investigate other conspiracies,

786
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: such as whether Wyoming exists and the suspiciously sequential numbering

787
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: of city Street. I'll paste the description down below, more

788
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 4: than happy to send you a copy if that sounds interesting.

789
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 4: That does sound interesting, going to read a quick blast

790
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: through of this synopsis.

791
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Speaker 3: Web World has been hacked.

792
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 4: The private information of every American posted to servers foreign

793
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 4: and domestic, So the government makes a special one time

794
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 4: offer start over with the identity of your choosing and

795
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: get a spiffy neo ameraphone and clean SSN in return.

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Speaker 3: I just thought that was really cool.

797
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: Concept and it came up organically in our conversation, and Matt,

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00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: I appreciate you writing in.

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Speaker 3: And the Indie Reader.

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Speaker 4: Called this novel over the top fun the best pop

801
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: culture novel of twenty twenty four. So you can't find

802
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: it on Amazon and anywhere you get ebooks or books

803
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 4: of any kind. And yeah, I really hope that Matt

804
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: said is a copy. I'm looking forward to reading it

805
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 4: and that.

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00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: It's as you know. I'm sure it's very important to

807
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: me to support authors earning creative endeavors. So I have

808
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: actually already start to scouting out a way to order

809
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: your book. I want to support you and thank you.

810
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: It's funny how many great authors and musicians we get

811
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: writing in to say, hey, this thing you all explored

812
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: is actually something that was on my mind as well,

813
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: So thank you so much. This helps us know we're

814
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: moving in the right direction. Speaking of moving, here is

815
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: a letter from home from someone that we have not

816
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: spoken with directly but am very proud of. I want

817
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: to give a special shout out to our super producer,

818
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 3: code named Doc Holliday, who looked a bit of skance

819
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: at this at this name. We're going to hear from

820
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 3: an astronaut named doctor Sean Proctor. That's right, doctor Proctor.

821
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 3: Kind of like you know Marshall brain kind of stuff.

822
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 3: So doctor Proctor is the oh, it's a good run.

823
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: Is the first black woman to pilot a spaceship and

824
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: the first person this is a true story to paint

825
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: in space, to make art visual art in the painting

826
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Speaker 3: medium in space. Awesome, awesome stuff, especially for those of

827
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: us who you know, you see people change in the world.

828
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Speaker 3: And one time I fell asleep trying to put on

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Speaker 3: a pair of pants, So there's a lot of context

830
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: in that one. I appreciate that. Look there, Matt, I

831
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: thought it might be fun to read a little bit

832
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: of doctor Proctor's real life Trip Advisor review of living

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00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 3: in space. You're ready, okay, all right, So I'll just

834
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Speaker 3: give you the headings and then we'll pick maybe one

835
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Speaker 3: or two to read. So we've got location, sleep quality, ambiance, amenities, transportation, cleanliness,

836
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Speaker 3: food rooms, views, recreational area, overall experience. If you had

837
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Speaker 3: to choose one, if we each chose one, what would

838
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 3: you want to hear first?

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Speaker 2: How about recreation? What are we getting up to in space?

840
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: Fantastic. Doctor Proctor finds recreational areas in space of five

841
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 3: out of five and folks Yes, five is the highest

842
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 3: rating in this particular trip Advisor review. Doctor Proctor says

843
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: painting in space was a highlight of my life and

844
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: easier than I imagined. I'm thankful to my crew for

845
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: giving me the time and space to be able to

846
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: complete from scratch a beautiful water painting of afro Gaya,

847
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: Mother Earth surrounded by earthlight under a rising sun and

848
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 3: a dragon capsule referring to dragons and space exploration. The

849
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: hardest part was keeping myself stable. I was weaving and

850
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 3: bobbing as I tried to paint. Still five to five

851
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: good vacation sounds.

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Speaker 5: Like dar I want to see that specialized water paint

853
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Speaker 5: set up.

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00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

856
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: It's like when you hear about how using the toilet works.

857
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you make like a bubble of water and

858
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: suspended just those little metal point things in.

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00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: Or I guess so without the special gear, wouldn't you

860
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 4: end up with blobs of paint kind of just like

861
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: floating around blogging up your instruments.

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00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you end up with sort of a non

863
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Speaker 3: consensual art project.

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00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: Now that being said, there could be if you had

865
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Speaker 4: a specialized room. You know all those kind of a

866
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: little bit pretentious painters that suspend themselves in some sort

867
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Speaker 4: of harness situation and just sort of, you know, drag

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Speaker 4: the paintbrush across the of the giant canvas or splatter

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Speaker 4: or whatever. What if you did that with zero gravity

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Speaker 4: and we're able to kind of like throw paint and

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Speaker 4: have it disperse in a zero gravity situation, that could

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Speaker 4: yield some interesting results.

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Speaker 3: The shadows of Pollock, right, and Noel, do you have

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Speaker 3: one out of those things we outlined, do you know

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Speaker 3: one that you want to hear about? A specific one? Again?

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Speaker 3: There are locations, sleep quality, ambience, amenities, transportation.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I always make my travel arrangements based on ambiance.

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Speaker 3: Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes, here we go. Ambiance good news.

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Speaker 3: Five out of five. Doctor Proctor says. We spent our

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Speaker 3: entire three days in space inside the SpaceX Dragon capsule,

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Speaker 3: and the ambiance was serene. There is the constant hum

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Speaker 3: of fans circulating airflow throughout the cabin, which acts as

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Speaker 3: white noise. Because you can float, the entire volume of

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Speaker 3: the capsule is available to claim is space you can occupy.

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Speaker 3: Sounds pretty cozy, to be honest, not bad, it does.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm hearing some ellipses, Matt.

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Speaker 2: There are. I have an issue sometimes with like certain

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Speaker 2: sign waves, like standing waves with fans, like worrying and

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. I've got a mental thing going on

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Speaker 2: with some of that. And I wonder if astronauts keep

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Speaker 2: specialized you know, hearing protection something like that that reduces

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Speaker 2: certain frequencies when they're up there because of that constant

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Speaker 2: hum m.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. I guess we'll have to

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Speaker 3: get up there. You know. We were going to go

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Speaker 3: on a road trip at some point, but maybe we

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Speaker 3: should just go to space.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well is it clean though?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 3: Oh, nice one, Matt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The one thing spoiler that is not a five to five.

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Speaker 3: And doctor Proctor's trip Advisor review of a vacation in

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Speaker 3: space is glenliness, which gets a four out of five.

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Speaker 3: Still a great score, Still a great score, you know,

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Speaker 3: and doctor Procter says the following, We did a great

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Speaker 3: job of keeping our capsule tidy. There are storage bins

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Speaker 3: for pretty much everything. The only issue was our water bottles.

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Speaker 3: Each bottle has a tiny velcrow dot that used to

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Speaker 3: stick to the wall of the capsule, but they get

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Speaker 3: dislodged and they float around, which is such a small issue, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better than the mountain dew bottles that have

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Speaker 2: urine in them floating around.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that was you were there.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's right.

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Speaker 3: You know. It reminds me because it's it's such a

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Speaker 3: nice letter from home. It also makes me think of

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Speaker 3: the old joke, Oh God, Noel, you probably saw me

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Speaker 3: do this one live, that there is a worst person

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Speaker 3: of every profession somewhere out there in the world. Is

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Speaker 3: the world's worst A yeah, it's gotta be.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just it would have to be determined based

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Speaker 4: on stats, you know what I mean, like, and it

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Speaker 4: would probably wouldn't be instantly apparent, and they'd probably still

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Speaker 4: be quite smart and have done very well in school

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Speaker 4: and in general would be competent at their job.

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Speaker 3: But if you put them side by side.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, one of them is gonna come up as

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Speaker 4: the worst, the world's worst.

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Speaker 3: I think the way we joked about it was they're

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Speaker 3: getting the news about the next launch and the crew,

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Speaker 3: and then someone says, and we'll have Neili's mission specialist

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Speaker 3: and then everybody in the room goes o meal to

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Speaker 3: a guy who's always hammered at Applebee's.

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Speaker 2: Chocolate two for you know whatever, guys.

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Speaker 5: The website Inverse has a twenty sixteen article titled the

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Speaker 5: ten worst Astronauts of All Time, and they name actual astronauts.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and I did not write that one. To be clear,

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Speaker 3: I would not in real life disparage the Great Mission

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Speaker 3: to Space.

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Speaker 5: They put Alan Shepherd on there is number eight.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Well, astronauts, give us your hot takes.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep you anonymous if you wish, knowing that you

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Speaker 3: exist in literal rarefied air. Give me a rim shot there.

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Speaker 6: Thank you to.

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Speaker 3: No, that's perfect. Let's get both of them because that

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Speaker 3: was a horrible joke. Big big thanks to Radical Moderate,

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Speaker 3: Matt ing Wilson, to Charlie, to doctor Proctor, of course,

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