1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you definitely. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: And speaking of ad want okay, I'm gonna say, speaking 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: of what you want to be a comp I mean 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: be known for and that last fight being an indication 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: that you're well on your way. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: But what's next? Who's next? 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: If if you had three fights lined up in no 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: particular order where you can continue to feel that dreaming 9 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: legacy of being one of the best lightweights that one 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: thirty five ever, who are the next? 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Who are the next three that you would like to fight? 12 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying call anybody out, I'm just saying 13 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: in general that you know that will continue to help 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: be of that legacy. 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: No, I don't do it, don't do it. 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: I think I'll take Tank Lamont light waight light weight. 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 3: I like, I like Andy Kluz. I like Andy Kluz. 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna so I like the best fights and the 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: best most competitive fights. So I think them guys is 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: more so than three most competitive guys. 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: I think Tank is the money fight. 22 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 5: I think that's the you know, not only would that 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 5: that help submit your legacy at the lightweight division, I 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 5: think that's the fight your court that's gonna pay you 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 5: the most money. 26 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: M hm. 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 6: He's a guy that everybody's been talking about for a 28 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 6: long time. 29 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 5: So he has out power. It's gonna be his power 30 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 5: versus your skill. 31 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 6: You know, it's crazy about that. This is no cap, 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 6: no cap. 33 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: You know a lot of guys they're like, oh, he 34 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: did that against the pay that because the pay is 35 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: not a big puncher. I would rather fight a power 36 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: punching any day and fight that kind of. 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 7: Value tell us, tell us why because after the fight, 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 7: my body was done, Like I done been in. 39 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 6: There with power punchers to where it's like, you know, you. 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: Gotta think and get out the way and don't let 41 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: them lay in that big shot. But when you're fighting 42 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: a value punching, he punching on your arms, your body, 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: it's just very much like a fight, a big ass 44 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: fight to where it's like after the fight you need massages, 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: like it's a big fight on. I would rather fight 46 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: them guys any day. 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. I like the three names that 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: you did call out about fighting. I think tank Is 49 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: is the money fight. But the fight that would interest 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: me the most based on skill set. You know, styles 51 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: make fights. The one I think would be the best 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: chess match. You know from round and round and both 53 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: of you. You know, it would be brother Roach, Brother, 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: brother Roach. I think to me, for those of us 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: that are not casual boxing fans and actually enjoy the 56 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: sweet science, I would love to watch that a fight 57 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: which you and Roach developed round by round and just 58 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: just just a thinking game and the chess match that 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: it would be based on y'all skill sets, But. 60 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 6: I would love that fight. 61 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: So I think that's the one of the fights to 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: make I think that Lema is very under rate. Yeah, 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: I'm glad that pugging it out about his skill set 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: because a lot of people don't realize how good he. 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 6: Really is and own. You know, I appreciate Lamar too. 66 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: He's one of the guys who came and helped me 67 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: in one of my biggest fights in my career when 68 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: my hos Val days. I made Lamar Roach my main's 69 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: farm partner, and he kind of got me thirty for 70 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: that fight. 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm real cool with him. 72 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 6: I would love to fight him though. 73 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 5: You know a lot of people think that Lamar actually 74 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: beat Tank in that fight. 75 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: What do you think I do? 76 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 6: I think Lama won. I think Lamar won seventy five 77 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 6: eighty four, even. 78 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: Without them without a knockdown. 79 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, without the knockdown that should have been. 80 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 5: Course, when you look, when you look and you look, look, 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: you're in that division of one thirty five. And as 82 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 5: I mentioned, there've been some great one thirty fighters, Roberto 83 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 5: the Ran, Sweetpee Whittaker, they like in Henry Armstrong and 84 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: there have been some great So when did you study 85 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: any of those uh uh Shahve Senior? 86 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: Do you study any of those guys? Do you like? 87 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: Do you understand like when you say I want to 88 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: be one of the all time greats and those guys had, 89 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 5: those guys had ninety one hundred fights. You're probably not 90 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: going to get to a one hundred fights. You're probably 91 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: hoping to get to like forty. But do you understand 92 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 5: that when you say I want to be an all 93 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 5: time great in this division? Some of the all time 94 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 5: greats that have been in that division. 95 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very hard, it's a very hard thing to do. 96 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: You gotta pay homage to the great Roberto Duran or 97 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: the great Panels, even Floyd when he when he had his. 98 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 6: One thirty five run, he was a hell of with 99 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 6: one thirty five run. 100 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 5: So Floord with four boys. People though at that weight. 101 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 5: People don't realize four had knock got power at them 102 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 5: light of weight at Go look at him against Gotti, 103 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 5: Go look at him and there some of those guys 104 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: he was what. 105 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 6: For sure. 106 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: I just feel like, man, I'm a competitor, bro. So 107 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: it's like I appreciate them guys. I pay how much 108 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: to them guys. But I'm not going nowhere anytime soon. 109 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: So and that way, I'm gonna be here and people 110 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 3: got to come through me. So now you got all 111 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: these young fighters, all these new fighters. 112 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 6: That's coming around. I'm the man in the division, bro, 113 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 6: And like you're not taking nothing from me. 114 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: Bro, I've been here for too long. I've been doing 115 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: this just five years old. Bro, I'm going to be 116 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: the man and I'm coming to get my spot. 117 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 8: I like it. 118 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Hey, not as good as you've gotten from from a 119 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: skill from a skill set standpoint, obviously being able to 120 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: fight in the pocket, being able to fight mid range, 121 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: obviously being at distance, that's that's pretty easy for you 122 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: to be able to hit somebody at will. 123 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: How do you continue to improve on your skill set? 124 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: And are there any boxes that you watch right now 125 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: that you enjoy and kind of steal stuff? 126 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: From them and. 127 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: Add it to your game or are you too far 128 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: into the game to do that? 129 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 9: Well, no, you is never. 130 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: Too far in the game to evolve and learn, bro, 131 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: Like you always got to be able to learn. But 132 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: like what you just said is how you kind of 133 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: get better. You got guys out here that's also evolved 134 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: in the game and getting better, like guys. 135 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 6: Like oooh stick and be volved. 136 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sitting back and I'm watching these guys and 137 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: trying to steal the little shit that they doing. So 138 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: I think that's how you get better. You just got 139 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: to keep watching and learning from people. Also keep watching yourself. 140 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: I think studying yourself is one of the underrated things 141 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: when it comes to. 142 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 6: The sporter box. I think that's the way it got 143 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 6: my highest level. 144 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: Studying where I went wrong, going back to watch my 145 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: spring and watch my fight. When I watched my fight, 146 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: I see one hundred things that I did wrong, even 147 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: though the public felt like I did good. But for me, like, 148 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: I saw one hundred different things that I can't wait 149 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: to get back in the gym and work on. 150 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 6: So that's my main goal, and I'm gonna keep evolving 151 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 6: your court. 152 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 5: Do you think that as you start to get a 153 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 5: little older, you start to get at a little more 154 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 5: old man weight, you train a little harder, and you say, 155 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 5: I walk around at you know, probably one thirty eight 156 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 5: and then you go to one to go to the 157 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 5: one forties because do you feel you might have to 158 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 5: move up and wait to get that bigger payday? I 159 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 5: know Turkey Alaschk and Dana White is doing a great job. 160 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 5: They're trying to you know, ay, hey, we want the 161 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 5: big fights. We don't want nobody dunking nobody. You gotta belt, 162 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: he got a belt, get in there and you take 163 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: his belt and he take your belt. Do you feel 164 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 5: you might have to move up once you fight a 165 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: tank or you fighter Lamont, do you feel you might 166 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: have to move up to get these even bigger paydays. 167 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: I won't move up with certain guys, Like I'm not 168 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: fighting guys thats just super bigger than me. But like 169 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: if it's a guy like Tia Femo who's closer to 170 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: the one forty weight class in the SiGe range, I 171 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: woul fight these guys. I don't try fighting the guys 172 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: on that one forty. I'm just not getting the rank 173 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: with people. That's way bigger than anywhere. 174 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 5: They might wait one for it at the tipe of way, 175 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: but they wore fifty five one sixty at the night 176 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 5: of the fight. 177 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: Huh. 178 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: A lot of these guys, that's exactly what they do. 179 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: They want to be one sixty five come fight night. 180 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: And you and I'm match right like that shit just 181 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: don't be making said. 182 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 5: It doesn't And when you look at it like you 183 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 5: said about Floyd, I believe, and a lot of not 184 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 5: to take. And Floyd had a supreme skill level. But 185 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 5: Floyd fought at one forty seven for the large part 186 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 5: of his career. Didn He ended up going up to 187 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: one fifty four to take Oscars belt. But Floyd walked 188 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 5: around at one fifty one fifty one, so it wasn't 189 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 5: nothing for him to like run a couple of miles 190 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 5: in two weeks. And Floyd's at one forty seven. He 191 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 5: wasn't a big man. He wasn't one sixty five, one 192 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 5: seventy trying to drop down to one forty seven, taxing 193 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 5: himself because he was such a smaller man. 194 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: He lost nothing. 195 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I was saying about whom though 196 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: when he fought them guys, he didn't put no rehab 197 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: dration clauses on them. He kind of allowed gods to 198 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: feel comfortable enough to fight him at whatever weight class. 199 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 6: Like if we watched Canelo O versus Floyd, Canelo was 200 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 6: way biggest Yloy. He was huge, but at the end 201 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 6: of the day's skills paid the bill. 202 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: So I respect Floyd for a lot of ship that 203 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: he didn't for the boxing man. 204 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: The funny thing about it, especially when you talk about 205 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: the rehydration clause, and Floyd understood that, Okay, I'm not 206 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: gonna put one in for Canelo, but I understand I'm 207 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: gonna be able to outbox him, allow him, you know, rehydrate, 208 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: put the waterway back on, because you're going to be 209 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: that much slower, which is why he was able to 210 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: counter and hit hit Canelo at will. Obviously, people like 211 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: to say, oh, he was in this policy. He is 212 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: in the same Canelo he is now. And listen, if 213 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: they were to fight later on, like okay, no disrespect. 214 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: Fight now, it would be the same thing, but. 215 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: Skillless Floyd fight. But you know, he's so much bigger. 216 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 5: He's fighting at one sixty eight. Yeah, but Joe, if 217 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 5: he fight at one sixty eight, he taking advance in 218 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 5: the ring at one eighty five. 219 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you. 220 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: Know, I'm I'm just saying from from a skill I 221 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: understand coming behind it, and the fact that the fact 222 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: that I just mentioned Canelo, I want to know what 223 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: you think about our brother, Bud Crawford and Canelo. 224 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: That fight happened in September. What you think of what 225 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: you think about that. 226 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 6: By the bad motherfucker. 227 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: Man, I think it's gonna be hard for anybody to 228 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: beat Budd Crawford. When Buddy Crawford is focused on his job. 229 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: I think he's one of the greatest fighters that I 230 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: have ever witnessed in my life. And I haven't seen 231 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: him in the gym. I have seen him come fight night. 232 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: This dude is just different. He's just he's not a normal. 233 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 5: Bud the dog for real, Bud. Bud got got a 234 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 5: couple of screws loose. 235 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. I just seen his schools definitely get loose. Buddy. 236 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 5: Oh Joe, you see the interview made Buddy and I said, hey, 237 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 5: I said, man, look here, man, I mess right to 238 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 5: mess your shoulders up. People gonna be mad at me 239 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 5: talking about I messed the coil. Budd Crawford fight up 240 00:10:54,600 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 5: man like a nice little hey, hey, s cour I 241 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: had it because he thinks he teaches you about it and 242 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: I run sed it and so I got him because 243 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: you know, ain't. I can't let that man have no distance, 244 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 5: have me locked up like Tommy Hearns had Martin. 245 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: I used to be closed the distance. O't yoke. 246 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, that's that's funny. 247 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 4: So what so what's next? What's next for you? Shkur? 248 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: What what? What's next? 249 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 5: You're gonna take you know, a couple of you got 250 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 5: another fight before the end of the year. 251 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: Out Now I'm gonna take some time off. 252 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 9: You know what. 253 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 6: That fight. 254 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know this, but I wanted 255 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: that fight to be under the butt and Canelo undercar 256 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: I hurt my hands my last fight before that, and 257 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: they kind of forced the fight on me, and I 258 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: just accepted whatever they forced at that time. Well, I 259 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: just want to take a break for the rest of 260 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: the year and come back fresh early next year on 261 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: love my hands and coming and rest up. 262 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: Let me ask you there, give me your top five 263 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 5: boxes of all time. It doesn't matter weight class, I mean, 264 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 5: if you want to, if you want to be specific 265 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 5: the class lightweight, super lightweight, welter, you know, middle super 266 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 5: middle whatever do you want? Junior middleweight? You know, well, 267 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 5: you know whatever. Give me your top five boxers. 268 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: Number one, me, okay. 269 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: Number two, number three. 270 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 6: Four, Andre number five. 271 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 4: But Crawford the first thing you like? Defensive fighters? 272 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: Huh yeah, for sure, that's that's the that's the goal. 273 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 9: You know, you gotta. 274 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: You gotta last in this for you know, guys going 275 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: to the hospital and they got brain dammits after the fighting. 276 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: They talking for years to come. So I like the 277 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: guys that's not talking for you. I like the guys 278 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: that can speak properly to you guys, tup you guys regularly. 279 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: Hey, he speaking of speaking of this, I'm glad Andre 280 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: Water is in your top five. 281 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: Right. 282 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: You know, I've been trying. I've been trying to fight 283 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: Dre for a little minute. You know, you think you 284 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: think you can make that happen. Speed up to expedite 285 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: the process of us getting in the ring. 286 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I could definitely make that happen. But I don't know. 287 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: If you don't, I do. 288 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 6: That's what you want to do, man, I do? 289 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 9: Hey, Hey, as. 290 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: Shir Cook, you you my dog, right, I didn't been 291 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: in the gym with you. 292 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 6: I know. 293 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: I listen, I know what you could do, and I've 294 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: been I've been watching for a very long time. And honestly, 295 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: no disrespect. I love andre but I beat his ass. 296 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 9: Man. 297 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 6: Come on, you know that's andre Ward. Bro. 298 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I 299 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: know I may beat you right now. 300 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 4: Yo. 301 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 5: He ain'd been in the gym. He probably an't been 302 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 5: in the gym in years. He tell your ass up 303 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 5: right now. 304 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 6: Last what like a couple of months ago, I just parted. 305 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 9: Let him know. 306 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: I'm ready, man, whatever you want to do, Hey, we 307 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: can go. We can go four round six rounds. I mean, 308 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 2: whatever you want to do. I make a light on 309 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: yourself because I mean. 310 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: Why show y'all you're using sixteen hours gloves? 311 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah we are. 312 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: We can use twenties, That's what I'm saying. 313 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you need some pillows because he'll ump your 314 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 5: ass up with them ten hours gloves. 315 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: And listen, I got d's like your core. You tripping, man, 316 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's your core. 317 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 5: Hey, get they get them training gloves, getting them winning 318 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 5: training gloves and sixteen twenty ounces. 319 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 4: Because anything up in ten houns is man. 320 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 5: Let me tell your ands up man with some air 321 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: lands or some rares gloves. 322 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: Grant man, you you done. 323 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 6: Heart a lot harder than you think. 324 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I know, I know, I already know. I 325 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: didn't listen. I didn't seen your spa before we had 326 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: to fight. I forgot who was I went to one 327 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: of the sparring sessions. 328 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: I know you know, not bitter. 329 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: I'm bitter. Don't worry about it. 330 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: Hey, oh Joe, you keep talking, then me and you 331 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 5: might have to do this. You know what I'm saying 332 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: on you. I don't would to have to do my 333 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 5: partner like this, but you know what I'm saying, I 334 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 5: might have to do something bad to it. 335 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Listen. If you don't see me my awards, i'mna have 336 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: to put your hand in. I don't want to hurt you. 337 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt you. 338 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 9: You up. 339 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie. I got ta version, I got tavers. 340 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 7: You manhoe, he don't give me my he don't see 341 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 7: me my fifty two hundred. 342 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: I thought only are you finish? I thought only nine hundred. 343 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm gona see im, gonna see your money when you 344 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: send me my No. 345 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 5: No, I'll tell you what I'm gonna beat it at you. 346 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: I will beat it at you. You won't give you 347 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: my money. I'm gonna do you like I would do 348 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 5: you like Steward did, Brian, where's my money? 349 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 6: Where was from? I seens. 350 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: That's the ever Last? Yeah, that's exactly, yes, yes, Bud, 351 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 5: wherever last? 352 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: What? 353 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 9: What like? 354 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: What type of glove you wear? Are your core? 355 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 7: I you wire whole? 356 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 357 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 6: Right? 358 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 5: I never heard of them? Does anybody? Does anybody wear 359 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 5: rays anymore? 360 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 6: I just seen somebody in rays. I think it was 361 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 6: pack ye pay award them his last. 362 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: Fright, Yeah, because I think you know, I think you 363 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 5: know obviously everlast grant a winning uh rails and you 364 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 5: mentioned rifle. I've never heard of that. I've never heard 365 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 5: of those gloves before. Oh Joe, these eight these right here. 366 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 6: Cut It don't matter. 367 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 8: And listen. 368 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: They cut for an object that's not moving. It's different 369 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: when there's an object in front of you that's moving. 370 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 10: Facts, King, I'm gonna stick that, I'm gonna do. 371 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do you just. 372 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do y'all, Tommy Herd and dead body. 373 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, Joe, I'll box you for the 374 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 5: gloves if you beat me, you get my gloves. 375 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: M I don't want them gloves. 376 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 6: I want to jab jab though. 377 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 5: Hey, you gotta snap that thing out there like a 378 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 5: last See some people use that jab as a founder. 379 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: They ain't trying to do no damage. 380 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 5: They just trying to see, okay, how far then I 381 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 5: can throw this right. But see I'm trying to snap 382 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 5: that thing bam like Lenny Lewis. No, Lenny Lewis had 383 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 5: a nice jam. Larry Holmes had a tremendous jaz what. 384 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 6: I want to see your jab though, let me see 385 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 6: your jab. 386 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 4: So in that jab U with that thing. I'm quick 387 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 4: with that thing as you court. 388 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, I'm finna, I'm finla parodydict. 389 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: Come right back with something. 390 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: Man, Hey, I don saw you. I saw you. Your 391 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 4: reflecting as fast as you thinking now, no no, no. 392 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 5: No, no no no. 393 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 6: See that's the funny thing. 394 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: If everybody want to go back to when I fought 395 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: my young bull Brian Maxwell in the ring, that's different. 396 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 9: Now. 397 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: You gotta understand I didn't been in the ring now 398 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: five years after that, so I looked. 399 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: I look nothing like that. 400 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 5: That's why I'm cour you could take sparring is different 401 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 5: than actually fighting, and you got to fight. It's just 402 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 5: like track and field. You could practice all you want to, 403 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 5: but you gotta get racist under your belt. You gotta 404 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 5: get in the ring. You gotta get rounds and not 405 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 5: all that speedbag and all that mints and stuff. 406 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 4: Nah, you ain't did that. 407 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 9: That don't mean mm hmmm. 408 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: I know. 409 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: I know one thing. I got two people on my 410 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: hit list. 411 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 5: Oh James Harrison, I'm gonna beat his ass, Andre Warfen 412 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 5: to get his work. 413 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: And anybody else that won't smoke after that, matter of fact, 414 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: your core, you could get it to start back. 415 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie. I already told you this last 416 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 6: time I saw you. Don't do it. 417 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: Don't do it is something, give about fifty hundred out 418 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 4: of it. 419 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 6: I'm telling you this is hey. 420 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: Whenever you hey, whenever you want to get back in 421 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: the gym, you let me know how you gonna get me. 422 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 6: Huh, how many runs you gonna give me? 423 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: I can't go past eight, I give you. 424 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: I give a strong eight four minutes, four minute around 425 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: thirty second rest. 426 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 6: I'm betting you ain't making it. Eight run. 427 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: I bet eight round with thirty rests. 428 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 9: Got car. 429 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: I been training in the past four. 430 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're gonna take what I'm a dude. 431 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 4: You ain't with Boot. 432 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: With Boot, I don't my affiliate with Boots. That's that's 433 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: what we had to do. 434 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: That's what Bull He had. 435 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 6: Me doing tabarim eight four minute rounds. 436 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: No, I only got four in. I only did foe. 437 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 6: Actually, that's why I'm trying to tell you this. 438 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 9: It did. 439 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 6: Ain't no way you gonna ate with me. I'm telling 440 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 6: you get it. 441 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 5: Get my fifty nine hundred dollars out. 442 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 6: Of you think you think ships sweet? Huh, I know 443 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 6: you can't go eight with me. Bro that ship. 444 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: Hey, and don't hit him. Don't hit him. 445 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: Don't hit him in his face because I need his eyes, 446 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 5: I need to be able to read the prompter. 447 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: But just tear his body up. 448 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 6: Let me tell you, I'm not gonna hit him in 449 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 6: the finish. I'm gonna his body. 450 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: That's what I do, making making peel on himself. 451 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be tough. 452 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 6: I'm ready. 453 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 4: I'm ready to all that. 454 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna be tough. 455 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 6: Okay to the side. 456 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: That's what I want. That's what I like to see. 457 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: That's what I like to see. Your court. That's what 458 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. 459 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 5: Oh you're gonna have what depends on none of his trunks? 460 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: Oh man, he well, but all jokes inside. Man, you 461 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: put on an F and box. 462 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: Amazing. 463 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: I want to tell you congratulations on that, man and 464 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 2: shutting up all these doubters and all of the haters. 465 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: Not then gonna find something else to come up with. 466 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: They're gonna find something else to come up with, and 467 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna probably gonna answer those questions too. 468 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: Man. 469 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: I just want to tell you congratulations on one hell 470 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: of a goddamn fight in career so far. 471 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 6: I appreciate y'all. 472 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: I appreciate you, math Core, Thanks for your time, man, congratulations, 473 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 5: enjoy the rest of the year. 474 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 4: Off. 475 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 5: Hey, we'll see you. We'll see your early. I guess 476 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 5: early in twenty twenty six and come back and enjoin 477 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: us when you got some time. 478 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 4: Bro. Appreciate you. 479 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 5: I appreciate it, all right, Bro, have a good week joining 480 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 5: us now. Fought to a majority draw Saturday night. It 481 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 5: doesn't look like he's too pleased with that, and there 482 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 5: are a lot of people on social media that actually. 483 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 4: Thought he won that fight. 484 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 5: Joining us Lamart Roach Junior Lamont, how you doing bro. 485 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 8: So man, I'm good man. Thanks for having me. I 486 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 8: feel real good. 487 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 5: No, thanks for having thanks for joining us, take us 488 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 5: through Saturday night. You go into that fight, you move 489 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 5: up five pounds, you're one thirty five, and you move 490 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: up and you feeling I mean, everybody's that man ain't no, 491 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 5: he got no change dance. 492 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: Tank told you a couple of days earlier. 493 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 5: He goes, hey, you're not going the distance, y'all shake 494 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 5: for a little with two fifty. 495 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: Whatever the case may be. You go into that fight. 496 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 5: You know, Tank's a slow starter, builds up as the 497 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 5: fight progresses, know, he's trying to land, hook to the body, 498 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 5: come up top with it. What was your process? What 499 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: were going into that fight? How did you want to fight? 500 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 5: And did the fight turn out the way you thought 501 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 5: it would well? 502 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 8: Honestly, yeah, the fight. The fight went exactly how we 503 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 8: planned it to go, honestly. You know, uh, we're familiar 504 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 8: with him, We've been familiar with him. We just knew 505 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 8: it was a matter of time for everything to fall 506 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 8: into play. And back to the whole everybody not giving 507 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 8: me a shot, saying I'm gonna get knocked out and 508 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 8: all this and all that I know what I'm capable of, 509 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 8: and I know what I could do. Like they just 510 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 8: in the nutshell they had they had me totally messed up. 511 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 8: And especially when he bet me saying he's gonna stop me? 512 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 8: What do? 513 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 9: What do? 514 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 8: I told him himself, I said, you tripping? I said, 515 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 8: I don't know what got into your head these last 516 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 8: couple of minutes, few day, whatever occasion on you tripping. 517 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 8: You know you're not gonna do that, dude. I don't 518 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 8: know why I told him that. I know you know 519 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 8: you're not gonna do that. Cut it out. 520 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, listen, when you talk about you're very familiar 521 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: with him, and I understand you and your team. You 522 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: went into the fight with a game plan. Is it 523 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: familiarity the fact that you guys probably trained together in 524 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: the past, or you've been in camp together in the past, 525 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: you sparred together. 526 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 9: Is that why you were so familiar? 527 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: And whatever game plan your team did have and we're 528 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: able to execute, is that why it went so well? 529 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, one of it's one of the many 530 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 8: reasons why I went so well. Even though we were kids. 531 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 8: You know, some of them traits, characteristics and just ways 532 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 8: of a man like grew with him. Yeah, so you 533 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 8: know some of the some of the like some of 534 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 8: the dirty tactics. I knew that he'd, you know, revert 535 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 8: to that when that pressure built up, when somebody that 536 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 8: was there wasn't scared of him, when somebody was there 537 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 8: that was there to return fire. And you know what 538 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 8: I'm saying, he ain't been in the ring in his 539 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 8: professional career. He hasn't been in the ring with something 540 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 8: like that or something like accountaboy, what I got right? 541 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: So what I thought obviously watching the fight, and when 542 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: I look at all his tape fights, most of the 543 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: time obviously he starts slow and then round five six 544 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: he starts to pick it up a little bit, and 545 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: by the time as he's picking it up, normally his 546 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: opponent in deteriorating the conditioning where supposed to be. But 547 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: I'm looking at you. They get the round six and 548 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: seven and he coming forward and you ain't even you 549 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: not even moving. So at that point, y'all mid range 550 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: and you sitting in the pocket. 551 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 9: And most of the time. 552 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: When he hits somebody, they retreat, but you get you 553 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: took one to give one. 554 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm like what he boy, he boy, going at. 555 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: It I'm like, so, did the power not affect you 556 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: in any way where you didn't really care? We just 557 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: sat in the pocket with him in exchange because most 558 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: of the time, I mean, you. 559 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 8: Got to be cautious. 560 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: You got to be cautious because when throwing punches, you 561 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: know you got a chance to get hit, you know, 562 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: when you're letting go. Did you not care at all? 563 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: Or did you feel his power early? In really one 564 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: word about it. 565 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 8: So it wasn't that I wasn't I wasn't caring this. 566 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 8: I was cautious, Like you said, I was cautious. But 567 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 8: the but the defense, the defense is there, and the 568 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 8: confidence was was through the roof, and I got a change. 569 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 8: You keep a spade to spade, like you know what 570 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 8: I'm saying, Like, I see why he knocks people out. Yeah, 571 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 8: I'm not gonna say the power is overrated. But I've 572 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 8: been in there with guys who could punch. I mean, 573 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 8: like with guys who can punch, so it's like it's 574 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 8: it's nothing. It was nothing new to me. I've been 575 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 8: in there with middleweight champions. I've been in there with 576 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 8: junior middleweight champions. I mean like as they were champion 577 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 8: in their prime and stuff like that. So it's like, 578 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, like I was confident and 579 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 8: what I could do defensively, and if I get hit, 580 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 8: I know, I know I was giving right back. 581 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: So listen, in the night around, I'm sorry, you know, 582 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: I you know, I get excited about I don't mean 583 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: to take over. Listen, hey, young boy. And in the 584 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: ninth round, you know, Jamonte took a knee. Obviously there's 585 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: some controversy behind that. It wasn't rule and knockdown by 586 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: the referee. I've never seen that ever. 587 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 9: And then my. 588 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: Years of watching a you know, watching boxing and enjoying 589 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: the sport of combat sports in general, did that moment 590 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: impact your strategy for the remainder of the fight. 591 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 8: I'm gonna say no, And let me tell you why. 592 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 8: The simple fact that he took the knee is is 593 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 8: it was really a boost because it's like, all right, 594 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 8: it's all right, what we're doing is working. We know 595 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 8: that he's looking for something. It should have been a 596 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 8: knock down one. So that's why I'm yelling at the 597 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 8: referee like keep counting, like you tripping, keep counting. That's 598 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 8: a knockdown. Because if y'all didn't notice he started to count. 599 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 8: He started to count, he did, and then he starts 600 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 8: he stopped. Okay, So so when we when he resumed 601 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 8: the action, I'm like, what you're doing? Keep counting like 602 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 8: you can't do that? So and then it wasn't even 603 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 8: registering or processing through my mind the other rules to 604 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 8: the simple fact that he could have got disqualified for 605 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 8: having his corner come up to the ring and assist 606 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 8: him doing the round, or or he can't turn his 607 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 8: back on the like doing the that's cause for that's 608 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 8: that's the wave at all. He took a knee and 609 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 8: then turned around and went to the corner breadthor usually turning, turn, 610 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 8: turn or stop the fight. Oh ain't. 611 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 9: I ain't know that. 612 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 5: I'm watching you a lot of times when when people 613 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 5: hit Tank, like Oyo was saying, they retreat, But it 614 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 5: seemed like you had a strategy like if he hit me, 615 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit his ass back just as hard as 616 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 5: many times as he hit me. And I don't think 617 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 5: he expected you to return the kind of fire that 618 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 5: you returned because you wabbed him a couple of times. 619 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 5: And I'm not so sure that I've seen Tank wobble, 620 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 5: like when you called him a couple of times and 621 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 5: you was getting through the guard. I mean, hey, normally 622 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 5: a southball fighter that lead right is a home run 623 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 5: right down and is right down Broad Street. 624 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 4: And you kept touching him with it. 625 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 8: For sure. Uh, it was one of the it was 626 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 8: one of the many things that we trained for. 627 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 6: Uh. 628 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 8: Obviously he happy go lucky with his left and been 629 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 8: working for his whole career. He's been knocking these dudes out. 630 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 8: So you know, we've been training, We've been sitting on 631 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 8: the left being able to working on counter and working 632 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 8: on you know, being able to block and come back. 633 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 8: And we had some pretty fast guys and then we 634 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 8: had some pretty strong guys that I had to you know, 635 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 8: uh switch rounds with every like you know, every spawn chest. 636 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 8: So you know, we was ready. We was prepared. And 637 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 8: like you said, them dudes wasn't really really cracking him back, 638 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 8: and I was really throwing that fire at him, and 639 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 8: the accuracy is was really probably pissed him off too. 640 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 8: And the fact that I was busy, it's like all 641 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 8: this ain't stopping. 642 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought you did an unbelievable job of keeping 643 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 5: the pace up, like Ocho said, he's a guy that 644 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 5: likes to start slow, so he have some energy reserved. 645 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 5: So when he comes out from five through twelve, he's like, 646 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: I got a lot left. I know, I ain't really 647 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 5: spent no gas. Hey, I've just been coas and now 648 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 5: I've been on electric mode. Now I got this fire, 649 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 5: got this gas in the tank. I'm in the unleash. 650 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 5: But it meant you met fire with fire when And 651 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 5: I've heard Floyd say that, like when he went into 652 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 5: a fight, he never watched tape on the guy that 653 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: he was fighting. He left that up to his corner 654 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 5: to watch the fight and then tell him instructions. He 655 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 5: would take all that information and then once he got 656 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: into the ring, blah blah blah. 657 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: Do you watch fight? 658 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 5: Do you when you going against a fighter, do you 659 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 5: watch them or you leave that up to your corner 660 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 5: to watch and then give you an instruction of what 661 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 5: you should do. 662 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 8: Don't watch them a lot. I'm just so, I'm just 663 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 8: so happened to be a boxing fan that the fact 664 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 8: that I do watch him fight, you know what I'm saying, 665 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 8: Like I really like boxing. He's just somebody to watch. 666 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 8: He inspected greet knockout on this skilled guy, like one 667 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 8: of the one of the better pound for pound fighters. 668 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 8: I like watching good fights, so I do know some 669 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 8: of his tendencies. But to study him, uh not really, 670 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 8: I left it up to my dad. But one time, 671 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 8: one day, like one day in camp, we did sit 672 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 8: down and watch a few of his fights back to back. 673 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: Mmkay, hey, listen, Tank Tank his publicly express interest obviously 674 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: in a rematch. 675 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 9: You want a rematch as well? Are you open to. 676 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: Immediate rematch or do you have a you don't need 677 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: a tune up? Do you have a tune up fight 678 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: just to just to keep yourself going? 679 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 8: Do y'all y'all run it right media? Immediate and just 680 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 8: to let y'all know, like in my contract, immediate rematch 681 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 8: was signed. I signed for the immediate rematch when I 682 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 8: signed for the first fight, just in case he lost 683 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 8: or just in case it was a draw, so they 684 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 8: put that clause in it. They put a rematch clause 685 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 8: in it, so I already signed the rematch close. 686 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So when you got a rematch clause, how we 687 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: taken How long is the break before you start training again? 688 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 9: Is it? Is it six months from now? 689 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 8: Is as that was up to the in side and 690 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 8: when they want to fight. So I'm thinking it's gonna 691 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 8: be soon. I'm hoping it's gonna be soon. Let's say that. 692 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying from a boxing standpoint, as a boxer, 693 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: what is soon to you? 694 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 9: I mean when you say soon to me, I'm thinking 695 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 9: a month. 696 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: I know that I'll think. 697 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 8: I'm thinking July. I'm thinking okay. 698 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 5: But if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, Lamar, I 699 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 5: think I read something that he reached out to Loma 700 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 5: Chinko's side and see if they were interested. 701 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: Did you see did you read that? 702 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 9: Also? 703 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 8: Did you see that? But he can't he gotta he 704 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 8: can't believe everything you see. Uh and if it is, 705 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 8: if it is true, then you know that would be funny. 706 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 8: But I'm pretty sure the rematch happens, and I'm pretty 707 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 8: sure that's the next fight for both of us. 708 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 5: M hmm, Well, let me ask you this. Would you 709 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 5: be interested? Go ahead, I'm just would you be interested 710 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 5: in fighting Lomo? Or to your female low paid. 711 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 8: Course or me? Hold up chair? 712 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 5: Up chair, Hey, put Paul's on it. 713 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 8: Hey, Chad? Hey, if I don't know, if you've seen 714 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 8: me fight Saturday, I really do this. 715 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, I would, there, I would. I listened. I've been 716 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 9: studying you for years. Okay, I can listen. Listen. I 717 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 9: don't have the time, but I. 718 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: Could tell your tendencies right now round one through seven. Okay, 719 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: So if we was getting there and SPA right now, 720 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: I can tell you what you're gonna do by looking 721 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: at your feet when you when you when you. 722 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 9: Got your hand down by your hip already and you. 723 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: Stepped forward, You're gonna faink. You know it ain't the keys. 724 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 9: Listen. I've been studying you. I know you. So if 725 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 9: you want to SPA at any point, if you get 726 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 9: ready for the. 727 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: Next fight, I think I've seen you work yourself. 728 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I got hands, ain't. 729 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: Got no power. He got pillows, he got you, ain't 730 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: got no lamon. 731 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 9: Listen, they. 732 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: Hey lamar where I'm from? They called me hello hand Yeah, 733 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: they called me headlands. But listen. Reflecting on your performance 734 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: right in that fight, bro, I don't know, your game 735 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: plan was phenomenal. 736 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 9: Everything you did you executed from round one all the 737 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 9: way to twelve. 738 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: After you have a fight like that and you put 739 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: on a show like that, what aspects. 740 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 9: I mean like what's how many? How do you improve 741 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 9: off of that? 742 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: Because if you would have grade your performance that night, 743 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: you get an A plus. So when you go back, 744 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: what do you go back and work on after putting 745 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: on a goddamn show like that? 746 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 8: Man? Just just just going on. See my thing is, 747 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 8: I always want to get better all the time, no 748 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 8: matter if I do have a good performance or not. 749 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 8: I just go back and I watch the tape and 750 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 8: see what what he do. Obviously, if whatever he come 751 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 8: with the next one that we just gotta still capitalize. 752 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 8: We're gonna add too. What worse if it ain't if 753 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 8: it ain't broke, don't fix. But we're gonna just we're 754 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 8: gonna add to it. We're gonna build. We're gonna build. 755 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 8: We're gonna build. I might try to, you know, pick 756 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 8: it up so we can see if we can get that. 757 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 8: Stop at Joe. Now you know what I'm saying. Never No, 758 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 8: that's how you capitalize. Hey, that's how yeah? 759 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Well your condition was on point bro. 760 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 8: Oldo fifteen year old fight over here, man, real for sure? 761 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 8: I was in camp fourteen. 762 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 7: Rounds wait with time and no time with time for sure? 763 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 9: What time? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, ok okay, okay, okay. 764 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 9: You know I did twenty two rounds. 765 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 8: No clock sah, we're gonna get you in camp. Maybe 766 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 8: you can get me ready for the rematch. 767 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 9: Ay, matter of fact, bring me the camp. I ain't 768 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 9: gonna charge I ain't. I ain't gonna charge you. I 769 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 9: you are you? 770 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: Four rounds. 771 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 9: I let somebody else go forward and not come back. 772 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 8: For another exchange. 773 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: No robbery. 774 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 8: I like that, all right. 775 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 5: Bet man Lamar, Will you put Pauls on the game. 776 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 5: Don't beat him up too bad because I need it. 777 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 5: I need it for night camp. I wanted to come back. 778 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 5: Talk about slurring. I don't want him to come back. 779 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 8: He's gonna be I think it gonna be all right. 780 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 5: Don't you getting body blows? Don't don't hit anybody's head. 781 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 5: You can't body blows. 782 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 9: I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. My defense, 783 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 9: My defense is my offense. 784 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna get it. 785 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 5: A lot of times when guys win and they get 786 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 5: a rematch, they're like, well, I don't have anything to 787 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 5: improve a pun and they run into a problem because 788 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 5: you had a draw. Can you go back and say, 789 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 5: you know what in this situation here, I should have 790 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 5: did this instead of that, and I might have been 791 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 5: able to land something. Is that how you go back 792 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 5: and approach the fight because you didn't get to win, 793 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 5: and so you're like, well, I didn't get to win. 794 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 5: I didn't lose technically, but I didn't win either. And 795 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 5: I think as a fighter, you know, draws and times 796 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: that ain't what we do it for. We want to 797 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 5: be winning. We want to be on the top spot. 798 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 5: And because you didn't land on the top spot, you 799 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 5: feel that, you know what, go back and watch this 800 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 5: fight through twelve rounds. Maybe if I pick it up 801 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 5: through the first three or four rounds, maybe that's a 802 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 5: round or two that I win. And we don't even 803 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 5: have this discussion at the end because it looked like 804 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 5: they gave you round twelve. 805 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 4: Had you not won round twelve, he would have won the. 806 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 8: Just sad honestly, so to me, I thought I wanted 807 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 8: to fight. Clearly, I thought I want a close fight. 808 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 8: I thought I want a very competitive fight. I'm not 809 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 8: saying I steamrolled them or whatever, but to me, I 810 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 8: think I want to fight now. Granted, ninth round should 811 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 8: have been called a knockdown two judges on the official 812 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 8: score cards gave him the round ten to nine. If 813 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 8: that was a knockdown, I went around ten eight. That's 814 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 8: a three point swing. I would win a unanimous decision. 815 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 8: So you gotta take all of that into account. It's 816 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 8: three ways that It's three things that could have happened 817 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 8: in that ninth round alone with that knee, it could 818 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 8: have been a ten eight round scored a knockdown, could 819 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 8: have been a disqualification, or I could have won by tkm. So, honestly, 820 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 8: when you look at that and you say I got 821 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 8: a draw against the number one spectacle in America, a 822 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 8: pound pound talent and a guy with a ninety knockout ratio, 823 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 8: look at it and like, Okay, if you got to draw, 824 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 8: more than likely youse was to win that night. So 825 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 8: even though I didn't get to win, I'm not a 826 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 8: moral victory guy. I'm pissed that I didn't win. Honestly, right, exactly, 827 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 8: I pissed that I didn't win. But I really think 828 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 8: that that I should have. A lot of people think 829 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 8: that I should have, and the rematch is just gonna 830 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 8: make it worse for him because I gotta rip it up. 831 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 8: Like you said, I gotta do something. I gotta do something. 832 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 8: I gotta pick it up somewhere to turn this around 833 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 8: and make it a victory for me. 834 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 5: Lament, you're moving up from super feiatherweight to lightweight. Were 835 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 5: you a trade that moving up might rob you or 836 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 5: some of the pot because that's you know, normally guys 837 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 5: that move up they lose some of the steam. Were 838 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 5: you concerned about that? Are you gonna stay? Are you 839 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 5: gonna st and super fail? Or are you looking to 840 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 5: move up to maybe. 841 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 4: Go one thirty five one for even higher? 842 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 6: No. 843 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 8: One, thing that one thirty five gave me is a 844 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 8: lot more thing. I ain't allow five best pounds I 845 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 8: had to lose. 846 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 4: So uh so what do you normally walk around at Lamont? 847 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 6: Normally? 848 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 5: Uh? 849 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 8: I want to say fifty fifty, especially if I'm in 850 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 8: the gym. Now, No, No, I walk around like one 851 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 8: fifty uh somewhere around one one forty nine on a 852 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 8: good day. If I'm on vacation, I don't get no 853 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 8: higher than fifty five. 854 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 5: So okay, okay, So you so I think that works. 855 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 5: I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd 856 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 5: Mayweather because Floyd is not a naturally big man. So 857 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,959 Speaker 5: it was easy for him to stay at one forty 858 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 5: seven because Florida only walking around it like what begin with, 859 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 5: So he goes for six eight weeks, he lose five pounds. 860 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 5: That's its sweet spot for sure. Sure, And that's another 861 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 5: thing with you. It's not like you're walking around one 862 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 5: sixty five, one sixty one sixty five and you got 863 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 5: to strip down thirty five thirty pounds. You only having 864 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 5: to come down teen, maybe even fifteen pounds out of max. 865 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 5: So that's a lot, that's not that's not that drastic 866 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 5: where you see these guys have to go through this 867 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 5: massive dehydration in order to make weight because man, you 868 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 5: keep doing that fluctuaight in your body, Man, it takes 869 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 5: something out. 870 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 8: Of here, and it takes a toll on you for sure. 871 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 9: Hey listen, after a fight like this, how much time 872 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 9: do y'all take off? 873 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: Like I mean, before you get back in and gradually 874 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 2: just start building yourself back, not only in the shape, 875 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 2: but just making sure you don't lose that rhythm and consistency. 876 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 8: It's tough, man, especially how boxing is today. That's more 877 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 8: so like a personal So me personally, I don't like 878 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 8: being out the gym too long. I get cussed out 879 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 8: by my doctor because he tells me to take a break, 880 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So and I understand, because 881 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 8: your body do need to heal rest. I've been through 882 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 8: an eight week training camp and then went through a 883 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 8: hard twelve round fight. So you know, you know, to 884 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 8: get your body together, take some time off because when 885 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 8: you peak, when you peak, and you peak at the 886 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 8: right time, and I think I peaked at the perfect 887 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 8: time on Saturday night, it's you know, it depletes you. 888 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 8: So I get a little rest. I get a little rest, 889 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 8: probably like two weeks, and I want to be back 890 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 8: in the gym one because I probably get you heavy 891 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 8: and I'm like, I don't feel I don't feel right right, 892 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 8: I'll be bored. I normally be in the gym. 893 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: So that's right where we where you live at, what's 894 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: stay in DC? 895 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 9: Okay, okay, I make a little trip down there. 896 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 2: Man, whenever you get back in the gym and you 897 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 2: want to start a sparring, I'm gonna come down there. 898 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 9: And I got I gotta. 899 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 8: Little I got a bad man, Chad. 900 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 9: I don't know, I know, I know I'm a bad 901 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 9: man too. 902 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 2: That's what my teacher called me when I as I 903 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: got a little better for you. Right, we're gonna do 904 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: eight rounds. 905 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 8: Right, We're gonna do eight rounds. 906 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 9: You get Yeah, we're gonna do eight. Yeah, if you can, 907 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 9: if you can beat. 908 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 2: Me at least four rounds, you know, Lebron James, he 909 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: just scored fifty thousand points, right, he said, he sent 910 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 2: me the ball. 911 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 9: If you can beat me, if you can win more 912 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 9: rounds than me. I seen this ball he gave me. 913 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 8: Right now, we're gonna set that up. 914 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 4: You gonna take that ball. 915 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: Get that ball, okay, right on top of the bell. 916 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 9: Okay, matter of fact, I'm gonna make it easy for you. 917 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 9: I'm only using my jab Mann. 918 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 8: You giving you give it, you're giving it away. 919 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 2: Nah, I mean, listen, I can I can take it. 920 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing I still win. That's what I do. 921 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 8: I told you they you're giving the prize away. 922 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 4: Lebron. 923 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 8: Ain't gonna like that. 924 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 9: Oh no, you ain't gonna get that. 925 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 2: You think I'm you think I'm gonna lose you and 926 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 2: and lose that ball. 927 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 3: Is a lot. 928 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 5: Hey let me let me let me ask you this 929 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 5: a little bit after the tank fight, who would you 930 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 5: like to fight out the fight after Tank. Are you 931 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 5: gonna stay? Are you gonna go? Are you gonna stay? 932 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 5: If you if you go back, if you rematch, you 933 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 5: beat Tank at one thirty five, Are you gonna stay 934 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 5: at one thirty five or slide back down to one 935 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 5: thirty or go up even to one forty. 936 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 8: It depends on what's available. If the champions at thirty 937 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 8: five are available, I want to fight them. I want 938 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 8: to unify. Obviously, that's good for my career. It's like 939 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 8: legacy fights. And on top of that, they big money 940 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 8: fights money if they're not If they're not available, I 941 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 8: will go definitely defend my title at thirty and probably 942 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 8: try to unify there because I can make thirty comfortably 943 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 8: and I feel like I run that division like I 944 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 8: probably can even go undisputed if they let me. 945 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 5: Because I'm Lama being a student of the game. I 946 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 5: know you heard your dad. You weren't around there, but 947 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 5: I know your dad has told you of whomever in 948 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 5: your corner about the Four Kings. Hearns Hagler, Durant, Leonard 949 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,959 Speaker 5: and how they fought each other and all the top contenders, 950 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 5: and that they fought you go back to the seventies. 951 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 4: You look at the heavyweights. They fought. 952 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 5: Norton fought our Lee, he fought Fraser, he fought for 953 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 5: He fought Shavers, he fought our Lee, Nobody Duck. Why 954 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 5: is it now, Lamont that we have guys and they 955 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 5: want a cherry pick and don't want to take it. 956 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 5: Seemed like, and I love Floyd, but Floyd that fifty 957 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 5: and oh, because nobody wants to take an ass whipping 958 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 5: now because now they feel like my legacy is ruined. 959 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 4: I lost the fight some of the great fighters. 960 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 5: We don't look at our Lee because he lost three 961 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 5: or four times, even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Bourberck, 962 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 5: Alar Holmes. We don't hold that against him. We don't 963 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 5: hold against Leonard. We don't hold against Haighlu, We don't 964 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 5: hold against Hearns. We don't hold against nobody. I don't know, 965 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 5: and I hate that. I love Floyd and I'm glad 966 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 5: he's undefeated, But everybody thinks, now, if I be undefeated, 967 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be revered like Floyd, and it's not gonna happen. 968 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 8: It ain't. Floyd's one of a kind fighter, man. Yeah, 969 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 8: even if a lot of people do go undefeated and 970 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 8: retire undefeated. It's not gonna be the same. Uh. And 971 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 8: it's not gonna be the same because Floyd put it 972 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 8: in his work. Floyd fought them guys when when he 973 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 8: was able to and stuff. Like everybody, he fort them 974 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 8: guys and he earned the right to fight who he 975 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 8: wanted to, when he wanted to, whatever the case may be. 976 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 8: He that's that's just a once in a lifetime fighter. 977 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 8: I don't know why the guys are not. I wotn't. 978 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 8: Maybe I do. I'm gonna give you a little scoop. 979 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 8: These guys are worried about the money that they can make. 980 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 8: If they told you if they still have an O 981 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 8: on their record, they think that a blemish would knock 982 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 8: down the value of their whatever they have in their 983 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 8: contract or whatever they have presented to them, which is, 984 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 8: you know, crazy to me. I think, if you put 985 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 8: on a good enough fight, no matter if you win 986 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 8: or lose, the performances what matters. And it's really what matters. 987 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 8: So people want to pay to see you fight. If 988 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 8: you fight the good fights, that's what that's. 989 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 4: What they're gonna pay. 990 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 8: Says, They're gonna pay to see it. That's why pay 991 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 8: per view numbers used to be so high because people 992 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 8: are gonna pay. They want to see certain fights. They 993 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 8: want to see them fights. 994 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 5: Look at Mickey, look at Mickey, Warden Arturo got it. 995 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 5: That was jam Pat Low didn't matter. People still pay 996 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 5: big money to see that because they know they were 997 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 5: gonna get action. But now Lamont guys like you know what, Yeah, 998 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 5: if I foult Lamont, I can make fifteen mil. But 999 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 5: if I fight this guy that I know I can whip, 1000 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 5: I can make ten. So why take the chance for 1001 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 5: extra five when I can get this can over here 1002 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 5: and I can whip. 1003 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 9: It for ten? 1004 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 5: So I just give me a couple, I give me 1005 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 5: five or ten. I'll give me five or ten d 1006 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 5: ten million dollar fight. Why would I need to take 1007 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 5: a risk for two of those big fights? 1008 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 4: But I ain't gonna do that. 1009 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 2: But then you gotta think about that Lama I told 1010 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 2: on Go Tonight talked about this too. 1011 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 4: Right. 1012 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: Not only do certain people not want to take risks, 1013 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 2: but you want to build it up until you get 1014 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 2: to the really, really good fight. So if you got 1015 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 2: like you talk about the folk kings back then, back 1016 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 2: in the day, right and today's if you got the 1017 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 2: best boxes, right, and if all the best boxes fight 1018 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: each other right now and not have fight out the 1019 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 2: fight out the fight and actually you build it so 1020 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: people want to actually actually want to watch and you 1021 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: can maximize your pay. 1022 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 9: That's a little different. 1023 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 2: Think about how long before Earl and Bud actually for 1024 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: Look how long it took. 1025 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 9: Look how many fights they had because they was a 1026 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 9: build up to it. 1027 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 2: So from that standpoint, I kind of get it and 1028 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 2: understand you want to maximize your pay. You also nobody 1029 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,919 Speaker 2: want to lose, but at some point they ain't gonna 1030 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 2: have no choice but to fight each other time. 1031 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 9: You got to be right. 1032 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 4: But think about it, and Lama, you know this. 1033 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 5: Sugar Raight went the one sixty the flight higher, Burst 1034 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 5: went up, He didn't come down. They went them they 1035 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 5: did because they very similar. One thirty one thirty five. 1036 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 5: They went up to clar Sugar Ray was one forty seven, 1037 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 5: went to one sixty. Packler Herris with one forty seven 1038 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 5: went to one sixty. 1039 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 8: You're definitely right about that. 1040 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 4: That's middleweight and Ray Ray and. 1041 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 8: Durant started at thirty five. So yeah, one of the 1042 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 8: best light ways to ever do it. 1043 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of a lot of those guys started. Yes, 1044 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 5: a lot of those guys started there a uh O. 1045 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 11: Joe thirty thirty five, fort Floyd thirty thirty five, forty 1046 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 11: forty seven, and fort for uh uh de la Hoya 1047 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 11: at fifty four mm hmm, yeah, oh yeah, a lot 1048 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 11: of them guy. 1049 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and had Pop Pacquia the novel the paqu yall 1050 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 5: started at once one six and blew through and blew 1051 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 5: through everything. 1052 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 8: Oh eight division champion and knocking. 1053 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not gonna see that. You even when you 1054 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 5: look at Armstrong, you look at all those guys, nobody's 1055 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 5: doing this again. Nobody's gonna do that. 1056 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1057 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 5: I mean basically you'd have to start it saying you'd 1058 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 5: have to start in like one forty and go to 1059 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 5: heavyweight to try to clean out of everything house. And 1060 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 5: that ain't That has not happening at all. I mean 1061 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 5: Roy come ye, Roy went from sixty sixty eight cent. 1062 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 8: Ten years straight Middlewaywe Roy. 1063 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 5: Was if Roy had had Roy just stayed there and 1064 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 5: not script the muscle that he put on to go 1065 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 5: to heavy because I think that took a lot out 1066 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 5: of him, That took too much out of him. He 1067 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 5: probably should have stayed. He probably should have never come 1068 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 5: back down or just took his time. But Roy won 1069 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 5: the title, couldn't get nobody else to fight, gave the 1070 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 5: title up and came back down, and he wasn't the 1071 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 5: same after Tarboro beat him that one time. He was 1072 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 5: never the same because he got started getting beat by 1073 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 5: fighters that Roy. Roy would have marked the floor inside 1074 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 5: of five rounds with him. Yeah, so what's the next tank? 1075 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 5: I mean, I'll excuse me, what's next to all of 1076 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 5: my what's next after after this tank? After this tank fight? 1077 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 5: You say you want to fight whoever the big money 1078 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 5: fight is? Who Ate Lomokill Femo handed Garcia? 1079 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 4: Who else? 1080 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 9: One? 1081 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 8: Thirty five right now? Keshan Davis and Loma chink Okay, 1082 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 8: that's that's that's who we're gonna be looking at after 1083 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,720 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, After after I be tanked, 1084 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 8: after I be tanking and rematch, uh, you know them 1085 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 8: guys ain't available, then we're gonna go to thirty and 1086 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 8: defend my one hundred and thirty pound championship. 1087 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: So listen, out of those three you just name, who 1088 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 2: would you prefer to fight first? If you can't get 1089 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 2: all three? If if you had a preference. 1090 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 8: If I had a preference, I don't really got a 1091 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 8: preference I want I would, I would put a blindfold 1092 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 8: on it. Pick whichever one. It don't matter. 1093 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 6: Whatever I'm talking. 1094 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 4: They tell them whoever want disass, that's what I disass. 1095 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:54,839 Speaker 8: Sure. 1096 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, I tell you what. I 1097 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 5: tell you what Lomo, you gonna get it first, So 1098 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 5: you're gonna get it after I get tanked. When I 1099 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 5: get tanked, I'm gonna get you at the first year. Hey, 1100 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 5: s your core. I'm gonna come see. 1101 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 4: You in July. 1102 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 5: Hey, Keith, Sean David. Hey, at the end of the 1103 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 5: year or twenty seven, I got your I got you. 1104 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 8: Asked with you sound good to me? He am me, 1105 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 8: sound real good. 1106 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 4: Hey man, I appreciate it. Congratulations, great fight. 1107 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 5: It wasn't the outcome that you had hoped for because 1108 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 5: you trained for eight weeks, had a great camp, and. 1109 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 4: You put the time in to win. It didn't go 1110 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 4: his way. 1111 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 5: But who knows what's gonna happen July August when the 1112 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 5: next fight come around. Wish you the best and guess what, 1113 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 5: come back and join us again when the fight happens, 1114 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 5: and all we'll see what happens after that Lamar. 1115 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 8: Appreciate, appreciate, I appreciate it. 1116 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna se I'm gonna see in. 1117 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 8: Dcent, no doubt, get my contact. We bring you out 1118 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 8: for sure. 1119 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 5: All right, hey body, because you need to talk, you know. Yeah, 1120 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 5: that's what I want you to do. Yeah, yeah, that's 1121 00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 5: what I want do. That what I want to do. 1122 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 8: Here went away, Yeah, I got I make sure we 1123 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 8: have it on the nightcap. 1124 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 4: That's what I need you to do. Record all right, 1125 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 4: all right, all right, appreciate that. 1126 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 8: LE have good Thank you all man. Mhm mm hmmm.