WEBVTT - Michael Steele & Chris Hughes 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:13.640 today's best minds and Republican Jefferson Griffin has conceded the 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:18.720 North Carolina as Supreme Court race to Justice Riggsay, finally, 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.880 we have such a great show for you today. MSNBC's 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.759 The Weeknight host Michael Steele stops by to talk about 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:32.080 Republican dysfunction. Then we'll talk to entrepreneur Chris Hughes about 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:36.159 his new book, Market Crafters, The one hundred years Struggle 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.240 to shape the American economy. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:43.360 But first the news Somali, there's a war between Jerome 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.720 Powell and Donald J. Trump, and Jerome Powell has chosen 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:52.240 to keep rates on hold because of Donald Trump's tariff shock. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:53.479 What are you thinking about this? 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.200 So Donald Trump doesn't quite understand a lot of stuff. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.080 He understands that if you lower interest rates, the stocks 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:02.600 go up. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:03.840 That's all he understands. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:08.399 He doesn't understand why you raise interest rates. He doesn't understand. 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.080 Like when he was president the last time, he would 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.959 just spend much of his time like tweeting you got 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.240 a lower rates because he knew it would pump up stocks. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.959 And look, Trump's whole thing is to just sort of 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:24.080 puff up everything, the economy, the numbers, the sort of 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.959 juice things. Now here is the problem. We are still 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:34.040 an economy reeling from inflation. So if Jerome Pale lowers 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.720 interest rates, what's going to happen is that inflation's going 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.080 to go up. The reason you raise interest rates is 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:45.440 because it slows inflation. So what Trump wants to do, 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.480 Trump really really really wants to fire Jerome Powell and 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.080 put in someone who will do whatever he wants. But 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.720 he does not have the presidential power to do that, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.000 so he would be breaking the law. And I think 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.480 it's important because Trump is always sort of musing about 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.080 doing things that are really illegal, like running for a 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.720 third term, and I think it's important we take him 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.160 seriously and really explain this. But he can't fire Jerome Powell. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.240 So even when he says like and luckily for you, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.080 I'm not going to fire him, you don't have the 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:19.160 power to, buddy. But Jerome Pal it would be malpractice 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:23.560 right now because these tariffs are going to be very inflationary. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.240 So if you lowered interest rates, Trump thinks it. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:28.440 Would juice the economy. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.240 But what it would really actually do is juice the 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.400 inflationary stuff, and we would have even more inflationary problems. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.480 There's a real scenario where we are sort of heading 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:44.400 into stagslation. Things get more expensive, and we're in a recession, 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.320 and that's all because of this stupid tariff crap. So 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.919 I don't think that you know this is what it is. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.919 Whatever it's stupid, Trump's going to be furious. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:58.960 And Palell had a. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.200 Really good quote, which which is the level of tariff 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.720 increases and now so far are significantly larger than anticipated. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:06.760 Duh. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.280 The same is likely to be true of the economic effects, 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:15.360 which will include higher inflation and slower growth. Right, higher 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.880 inflation and slower growth, those are the two things you need. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:23.079 When those two things get really bad, that's stagflation. And 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.880 that's where we're careening to unless Donald Trump can make 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.480 ninety deals in the next two weeks or whatever, however 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:31.440 much time he has left. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.840 So another feature of the Trump presidency is the grifting 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.840 ed I've become personally obsessed with understanding meme coins in 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.200 the culture around them, because I find it funny. But 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.360 seven hundred and sixty four thousand Americans lost money on 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.720 Trump meme coins, well, only fifty eight profited. That's what 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:54.080 we call a rug pull in that business. And that's insane. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.520 Like so many things in Trump world, this is a 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.840 Ponzi scheme Trump launched. Meant, by the way, Jimmy Carter 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.480 had to put his peanut farm in a blind trust. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.920 Two million accounts have purchased the Trump coin. By the way, 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.720 what even is it? It's just nothing, right, it's just 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:11.880 a it's nothing. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.080 It's like you're buying into an idea, which Navault Perrari 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.920 would argue that we're all doing that with currency. But 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:19.760 this is just the stupidest version of it. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.880 Like most of our society, meme coins based on Internet 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.840 jokes or fast moving cultural trends. I mean, so here 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.560 are the people who made money on meme coin, his friend, I. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:31.400 Mean, I don't know. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.440 We don't know because we don't really have the reporting yet. 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.080 This is such an unregulated space. They did even more 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.720 deregulation to make it so that they could get away 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.159 with more of this bullshit. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.240 Right, So we don't know, but it seems pretty sketchy. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.680 You could say that. So we have a Trump budget 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.280 and there are medicaid cuts. Were really shocked to hear this. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.160 We never would have seen them doing this. But the 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.680 CBO has just scored it, and it's not looking good 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:57.719 for the people of America. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.359 Some Democrats are saying, and I actually think this is 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:06.800 pretty smart messaging that this is the largest transfer of wealth. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.200 I think Burscher said it to us on the podcast. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.159 Largest transfer of wealth from poor peoples of rich people 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:18.800 is the Trump budget. The analysis requested by Democrats says that. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.480 Per capita caps for. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:25.120 Medicaid expansion population would save two hundred and twenty five 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.360 billion in federal spending and result in one point five 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:34.080 million more uninsured people by twenty thirty four. Blocking provider 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.400 taxes could save six hundred and sixty eight billion and 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.359 lead to three point nine million losing coverage. 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:41.680 So here's the idea. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:47.920 Medicaid pays for nursing homes, pays for rural hospitals, pays 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.880 for the pediatricians who see the poor kids. In a 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.239 lot of states. You cut all of this, here's what happens. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:06:01.400 The nursing homes close, the rural hospitals close, there is 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:06.560 no pediatrician to see your kid. So if Republicans can't 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:12.680 prevent elections, which they may try. It will be the 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.000 single you know, they will never win another election if 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.320 they do this, because you will see your hospital close, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.640 your nursing home close. Why is why is Grandma coming 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.159 home to live with us? Because there's no nursing home. 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:30.480 It's closed, right? Why is great Uncle Milton living on 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.400 the street because the nursing home is closed. 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.919 Because they cut medicaid. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.880 I mean, that's what this looks like in real time, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.839 and it means like you're not driving forty miles to 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.040 a hospital, You're driving one hundred and forty miles to 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:47.159 a hospital. So these are real things that people in 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.880 Red states are going to see. And in some ways 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.880 this is just indulge me for another minute because. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.080 It's my fucking podcast. Exe's my friend. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:59.719 The brilliance of Obamacare, the brilliance of it and medicated 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.120 space was that I remember when I was a kid, 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.479 we had people who weren't insured and those people went 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.599 to emergency. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:08.960 Rooms for treatment. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:09.960 I was one of them. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.720 Yeah, they had no choices. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.000 And what we did with Obamacare and this is really 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:20.720 honestly like, we gave people medicine and now I'm telling 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:25.160 you the Medicaid expansion you know, some states have rejected 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:29.600 it because they're you know, Republicans, but largely the states 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.120 that have it, like Andy Buscher who we talked to, 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.440 like this has been a game changer. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:34.960 Right. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.680 There are hospitals where there were no hospitals, so Republicans 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.960 would have to get rid of these hospitals. And I'm 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.320 just not convinced that they want to take the poison 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:45.560 on this. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.280 And what we see in the Houses, they're bullying a 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.440 lot of members to pass this so that they can 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.680 fundraise off this, saying that the Senate will strike it down. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.280 Don't worry, guys, You'll be fine. And they're trying to 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.400 get some of the more wavery Republicans on board with 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:01.120 it that way. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.200 Good luck team. Yeah. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.720 I'll just say this mine, if my in laws were 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.040 forced to come to live with me, I voted lifelong 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.960 Democrat all my life. That would change real fast, That's 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.080 all I'm saying. If they forced that, I'd be some 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:15.760 real borsch belt humor for you all. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.840 Okay, bomb bomb never follow a dog up. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.840 A judge's blocked Trump's dismantling of three different agencies, which 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.920 yet again, let's just thank god for the courts. I think. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.840 I never thought I'd be saying it's. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.480 So good they wanted to By the way, I just 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.679 want to say the three ones they wanted to get 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.920 rid of, Okay, the Institute of Museum and Library Sciences. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.280 First of all, it is like you, how many people 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:42.400 work in that? You know? 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.400 It's point zero zero zero zero zero one percent of 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.520 the Pentagon, right, I mean it's like ten people. The 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.280 Institute of Museum and Library Sciences. They wanted to kill that. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.960 The Minority Business Development Agency obvious reasons because they're not 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.760 interested in that. And the Federal Mediation Services, which, by 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.240 the way, I'm just gonna tell you, mediation is like 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.320 a way to save money versus you know, lawsuits, you know, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.880 and I'm sure this is about workers' rights. But the 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.720 point is they tried to close it. Like yet again, 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:20.400 we're seeing the Trump world just absolutely lose it in 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.680 the courts, as they should, as they will continue on 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:30.800 as they deserve. Michael Steele is the co host of 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:36.200 The Weeknight along with Slomone, Sanders Townsend, and Alicia Menendez. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.599 It airs Mondays from seven to nine pm and Tuesdays 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:46.160 through Fridays from seven to eight pm on MSNBC. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:47.040 Welcome to Path Politicists. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:48.760 Michael Steele, Okay, what's up. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.520 I'm so excited that I get to have I get 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:55.960 to have you, Alicia and Simone on my podcast to 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.600 promote your show. But like, here's the trick. I actually 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:03.559 would have you on anyway to talk about politics. So 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.120 it's like there are occasionally are times when what I 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.280 want to talk about and doing something that is sort 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:15.240 of what is needed or wanted coincide, but almost never. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.360 So I'm very excited about this and I'm extremely happy 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.640 to have you here, and I'm gonna I think we 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.839 should start by talking about the hundred days of I 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.559 told you so? Do you remember what you wrote on 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.240 a piece of paper on election night at three o'clock 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.280 in the morning to make no okay, so eight o'clock 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.880 in the morning, I am to say that I am 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.079 like I have never I'm out of my body. I'm 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:47.560 so upset, I am like watching myself. We are on 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.640 the set and I look over at you and I'm. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.319 Like, holy, what are we gonna do? 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.400 And you write down at a piece of paper, We're gonna 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.160 at least won't be able to say we told them so. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.280 Yeah, it is true. I was having a conversation. We 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.760 actually just came up on our show last night, and 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.760 so one of the guests that made the comment about 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.800 you know, you know, we don't want to necessarily be 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.480 it saying I told you something like hello, I've forgotten 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.880 that I actually written that down on paper, but it's true. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.720 I don't know why we can't say I told you so, 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.280 I'm sorry. I give you every warning in the world. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.440 If I say to you, look, get out of the building. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.920 It's on fire. Get out of the building. It's on fire, 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.679 and then you don't get out of the building, and 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.000 bad things happened to you. Yeah, I'm going to tell 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.360 you I told you so. I'm sorry. I'm that guy. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.760 I'm not just warning you to just to be a 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.520 pain in the butt or to be to have trumped 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:53.400 derangements syndrome that crazy. I'm warning you because he's warning us, right. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.600 And I think that's a really good point because we 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.120 saw so many times on the trail where he would say, 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.439 you know, people would say, well, you don't read mean 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.160 you're gonna hunt your political enemies, and you'd say, no, no. 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.319 I mean that, Yeah, that's right. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:11.920 You were like very high up in the Republican Party structure, 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.360 and I think you were a chair of the R andCA. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.720 Yeah, I did that for a little bit something like that. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:21.320 Yeah, And so what I think that, I mean, there 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.120 was a moment when all of this stopped making sense, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.400 when they were just like, we're going to give up 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.120 on trying to be the sort of cut taxes and 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.680 be you know, a little less for people, but still 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.199 you know, ultimately not so different. I mean, the two 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.880 parties were very were much more similar than they were 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.400 different until Trump came along. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.760 I'd agree that there were, but it's interesting you could 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.800 see the evolution that was occurring to both and where 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.719 that was really sort of one of those moments was 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.720 when you had the emergence of the Tea Party and 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.240 Occupy Wall Street. They were two sides of the same coin. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:03.120 Interesting making the same case against Wall Street, making the 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:08.000 same case about government intrusion, et cetera. That then crystallized, 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.319 Occupy Wall Street sort of went off into crazy land 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.800 with a whole lot of other stuff, so that collapsed. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:18.480 Tea Party held over and then but then eventually collapsed 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:23.000 and morphed into something else, which then leveled up. By 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.480 the time you get to twenty sixteen Trump. But then 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.760 when you get into that election, what did you see 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:33.360 happening during the course of that primary was the emergence 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:37.160 of the Donald Trump you know, Bernie Sanders voter, that 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:42.200 sort of progressive, you know, hard right conservative kind of 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:46.560 coming together. And I met my first Bernie Sanders Donald 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:51.120 Trump voters at the Democratic Convention in twenty sixteen. In 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.240 twenty sixteen, when all the drama was going on with 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.400 Hillary and not of that at that they didn't, you know, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.160 and Bernie, Bernie made the case. I still contind had 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.559 he started that race earlier, or he had an extra month, 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.840 he likely could have been the nominee, would have been 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.480 the nominee of the Democratic Party, because that's where the 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.840 momentum was going. Very much as we saw with Donald Trump, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.400 the same thing was beginning to happen on the left. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.920 So you do have these the two parties have always 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.520 kind of been molly in this sort of race with 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.760 each other, and along the way they dabble in some 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.320 policy or they you know, they you know, have an 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:33.280 opinion or an ideological spap, but they they find a 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.320 way to get get to the point where they can 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.800 get some things done that piece is not broken. And 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.760 the work that the Congress, for example, used to do 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.480 has stopped. It has stopped for a while. And so 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.280 what you now have, interesting enough, is the two parties 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:54.640 shifting and taking on the opposite position, where Democrats today 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.680 in many cases sound like old line Republicans and Republicans 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.160 sound like they just you know what, crazy. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.000 No, I'm going to ask you a question just for Jesse, 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.520 because he's listening, or maybe he's gone to get a coffee. 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.080 U think Bernie would have won. 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.720 I look, I just look at the trend lines in 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:15.480 that election. I mean the momentum he had, the momentum 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.240 that was the big part of how a lot of 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.960 a lot of Democrats felt that the party put their 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.440 finger on the scales for Hitdle, that the energy on 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.720 the ground was for Hillary, I mean for Bernie, and 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.800 that still is true. I mean, hell, he just got 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.680 thirty thousand plus people to come out. Who else in 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.320 politics is talking to thirty thousand people in the stadium 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:38.840 right now? 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.080 You know. I just want to add one thing about 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.080 Bernie being out there right now, which I think is important, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.440 is that, first of all two things, one is that 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.120 he's doing it not because he's running for president. He's 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.080 doing it for the good of American democracy, which is, 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.320 you know, like this is not the most fun thing, 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.360 and you know, I mean, it's good whatever, but he 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.480 really is doing it for the greater good, which I 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.560 think is an important data point. And then also it 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:12.320 is Charles Schumer who is sort of sending these people 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.520 out there and giving them the blessing to do it, 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.840 because otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. I mean, maybe Bernie. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.080 I still think Bernie is largely has been pretty much, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.640 you know, So I do think when we criticize Schumer, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.080 that is an important that he does. He has he 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.480 does have senators out there doing the stuff that they're 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:34.280 supposed to be doing. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.680 Chris Murphy does he, I mean, I supposed if you 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.160 want to give it to him, give it to him. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:44.640 My issues with leadership, with the leadership of Chuck Schumer 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.520 is not that he can send a senator out to 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.160 hold a rally. How do you use the rules of 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.720 the United States Senate to protect your interest? Right? 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.080 And the master of the Senate stuff, right, I. 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:01.760 Mean, you've gotten pulped at every turn post, especially when 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.879 it comes to judicial appointments and the fact that the 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:10.080 Democrats of the Senate capitulated and voted for in some 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.520 cases or allowed the vote to go forward in all 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:19.600 cases with the with the highly incompetent not ready for 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.679 anything close to prime time nominees for various positions in 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.560 our government. And there was no fight. Yeah, I mean case. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.600 So now you want to send people out into a rally, okay, 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.920 But the rally was should have been before you got 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.480 to this point. And so that's where I have a 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:40.640 problem with the leadership is that, yes, you have the title, 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.880 but you don't have the political instincts to know how 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.480 to use the title right. 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.880 And there are there are all sorts of weird Senate 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.960 things you can do to come up the works. We've 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:55.080 seen Mitch McConnell do them. We saw Harry Reid do them. 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.960 That that stuff Schumer. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:58.840 Has not filled it with. 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.959 I do want to talk for a minute about the 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:08.040 cr because in the there was a year prior budget 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:13.199 reversal for the District of Columbia. Now they need this 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:18.000 money and and poor Mary al Bowser is trying to 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:22.400 kind of get it through and now Republicans, the far 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.800 right plank is giving her trouble again, which. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.960 I think that could have been an easy one that 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:28.919 Democrats could have. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.600 It should have been an easy one for the Democrats 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.840 in my view, irrespective of what you think about the 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.200 District of Columbia, there's seven hundred thousand plus people who 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.040 live there. I'm a native Washingtonian. My dad still lives 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.879 in our family home in the city. And the fact 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:52.200 that you would have Republicans who who fundamentally have a slightly, no, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.280 just a full on racist view of the city. They 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.080 still think it's chocolate city, you know, from back in 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.440 the day of Marion Barry and and the street thug 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.359 life that sort of pervaded in some parts of the city, 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.720 all of that that every urban community went through in 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.560 the eighties and the nineties, in the early two thousands 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.120 for example, that they just have this sort of pejorative 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.560 view of the city, a city that they barely know 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.320 because they barely spend any time in it, and it's 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.600 just a federal property that they think they can do 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.480 whatever they want. But they're real people who live There 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:29.159 was no vote in the United States Congress that have 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:33.800 fought desperately for home rule. I very much remember when 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.560 home rule was passed and I worked on as a 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.399 young college student on the first Amendment to the Constitution 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.879 to give DC voting rights in nineteen seventy eight, and 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.480 to hear these people now sort of jerk around with 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:53.560 their money, largely these senators and members from Congress, mostly 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.639 members from Congress from places that are smaller than the 0:19:56.680 --> 0:20:03.480 District of Columbia. It's offensive. Racial undertones are well documented, 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.080 and it's unfortunate. And so you would hope that there'll 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.520 be some friends out there who could fight for this city. 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.239 To strip a billion dollars out of the budget, how 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.160 the hell you think they're going to run their police 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:14.840 and fire, how the hell you think they're going to 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.359 run the school system and provide the services to the 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.719 extent that your dumb ass still live in the city, 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.200 and you're going to be calling up the mayor saying, 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.560 why aren't you picking up the trash? Well, because you 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.159 took a billion dollars out of the budget, right, and 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.919 because I'm not the governor of this of the state 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.880 of the District of Columbia. I'm a mayor and I've 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:35.880 got to make this stuff work. And when you cut 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.000 my money, I can't make it work the way you 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.920 want it to work. So everybody kind of thinks the 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.040 things you just cut and everything will continue to run. 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:48.679 Not just run, not just run, Molly, but run better. 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.400 Yeah, you know, we're starting to see Republicans are trying 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.520 to pass the bill. They're now calling it this budget. 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.680 They're calling it the one big Beautiful Bell. 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:03.080 Because that's what Donald Trump calls it. So you know 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:05.920 when you're yeah, it's. 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:07.840 Gonna you know, when you're traveling in the Gulf of 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:12.320 America and in this one big beautiful bill, they need 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.400 to pay for these tax cuts. Right. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:18.000 The whole game here, doge, Everything is to pay for 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:18.679 tax cuts. 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:20.760 It's to pay for the tax cuts that already happened 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.080 and the tax cuts that are coming. And the idea 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.480 here is that these tax cuts, by the way, the 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.920 new ones, I don't know, you know, the old ones. 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:31.879 People are gonna be like, where's my tax cut? No, 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.960 we just extended the other ones, right, I mean, we're 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.320 not even you know, but even say the new ones come. 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:42.359 The problem is, now Elon had all these ideas he 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:43.720 was going to cut all this stuff. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.040 It turns out it's a lot harder than it looks. 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.960 It is a lot harder than it looks because when 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:52.880 you rob from Peter to pay Paul, you realize, hell, 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:57.200 I gotta go and rob Paul to pay Pete. It's 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:01.440 all Look, it's a finite amount of mine. Period. It's 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.000 a bud Like any budget, there's a fine item if 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.479 there's only so much that goes in and there's an 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:10.439