WEBVTT - #332 - Baron Davis 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.200 Yo, yo yo. What's up? Is Baron Davis aka the 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.680 presenter of bart Oatmeal the Legend Get a Bowl and 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.680 you can catch me on the buleg kV podcast show 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:18.080 Believe Bluelet cav Podcast. We got a special guest in here, 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:23.000 a legend. His name is Baron Davis, Hey, bar Oatmeal 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:25.960 Believe Get a Bowl. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:29.520 Well, first of all, I just want to give you 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.640 props because I'm a basketball fanatic and you were one 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.320 of my favorite players to ever watch. I remember when 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.760 you got drafted by the Hornets, like watching like the 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.120 early Hornets days. Man, you was like a fucking you 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.120 were just like a shot of energy in the league, 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.440 like on. 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.120 Your size, could dunk on everybody. Like, man, you have 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:51.720 to you know, you have to come in the league 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.000 back then, like you have to make a name for yourself. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:56.920 You know what I mean. You coming in the league 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.880 with you know, you got juggernauts. Still you got stop 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.040 some malons, like because when you get drafted ninety ninety nine. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.800 Yeah, so that's like, yeah, Penny was still around, uh. 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.440 Everybody every day. It was just coming into his own. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.280 Steve Nash just was coming into his own. So it 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.920 was like the the it was kind of before the 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.760 wild point guard renaissance. Yeah, like midw I would say, 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:22.840 we had a hell of a point guard renaissance. So 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.360 my air is pretty you know well, I mean yeah, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.640 I mean especially I think that was the start because 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.920 you were coming in while a lot of those guys 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:34.119 like stocked In and the traditional point guard Mark Jackson 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.400 were going out. Yeah, Mark Jackson was a post up 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.640 point guard. Ros Strickland was to get to the whole 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.960 type of point guard. So they was all k was there. Yeah, 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:43.080 I was in his prime. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.080 Now I still don't know because I hear people consider 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:46.800 him like he's more of a shooting He was a 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.720 guard on that team. Yeah, Eric Snow was the point guard. Yeah, 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.640 he was a scoring guard. I remember those battles man, 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.280 you against that dude. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.920 He was sick. Yeah. Yo. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.000 I wanted to talk to you because I feel like 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.520 correct if I'm wrong. I remember seeing something when I 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:07.240 was like younger, when you were in the league. Were 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.720 you throwing up your neighborhood like ever on video, like 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.200 when you were like making shots and shit? Because that 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.839 never happened, okay, Because I wanted to ask you about 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.480 how you feel about the job and ran shit because 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.360 I was in the job rane kind of interesting, and 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.120 you were obviously a young kid who came from a 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.080 serious area of LA got drafted into the league. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:27.840 I'm sure you dealt with a lot of shit. I 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.360 was just guilty by association. But I mean I don't 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.840 I don't remember, you know, maybe off the court, but 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.200 I don't remember. Like on the court, maybe I did. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.880 You know, sometimes you get hype, you know what I'm saying, 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.880 like anything happened. But obviously you you know, we did 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.880 a lot back then. You feel what I'm saying. It 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.880 was a lot. We did a lot back then, and 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.160 there was a lot of you know, if we had 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:57.120 social media back then, everybody will be like have horrible 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.600 Tarnus images, you know what I mean, because it was 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.359 just you know, back in the day, like you could 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.560 win no camera phones, so like whatever was cracking, you know, 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.200 right then and there it was what was cracking, Like 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.120 you have to have a video person, You have to 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.679 tell somebody bring a camera, you know what I mean. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.040 Back then, So you know a lot of people was 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.240 like not so much getting in trouble, like cause I 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.320 don't think John Morett is in trouble, you know what 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.320 I mean? Like he did some you know, some stupid shit, right, 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.640 but at the same time, like we've been doing like 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.760 we've been doing stupid shit for the longest time, long time. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:38.240 You know, a microscope. Yeah, yeah, it's under a microscope. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.680 Because you know, I was saying to uh, just to 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.280 my friends, Man, I'm you know, I cried on my 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:48.160 twenty fifth birthday. I cried on my thirtieth birthday, and 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.560 on my thirty fifth birthday, I was like, damn, dude, 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.920 I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna actually live, you know 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.880 what I mean. And so just thinking about, you know, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.000 that journey from the time I got drafted to the 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.360 time I hit thirty was just it was just a 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.040 lot coming back home, you know what I mean, having 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.440 to deal with that, you know, being on the road 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.720 people you know, just during the season, people think you 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.760 SAWT say something to you. You know, you gotta go 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.040 find him in off season and see if it's real, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.880 you know what I mean, Like just wow, you know 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.720 what I mean. And like I think, once I kind 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.159 of got to go to the state, you know, things 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.360 just start kind of like leveling out. I was like, man, 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.960 let me change, let me change who I am, and like, 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.760 I don't need to be this. This is not me, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.120 you know what I mean. I'm not I'm not like, 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.200 I'm not like this, you know, I want to be 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.440 What do you have to prove? Like I didn't have shit? 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.600 You're you know you're a millionaire on TV every day 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:40.440 you ain't. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.839 At the same time, like, bro, I'm scared to die. Yeah, 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.000 it's real out here, you know what I mean, Like 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.440 they shoot at athletes out here back in the day, crazy, right, 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.159 Remember Jalen Rose got shot at. Why are you shooting 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:59.480 at Jalen Rose? Right? Who the fuck shoots at Jalen Rose? 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.760 You know what I mean? And he was on Sunset, 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.840 so that just you know, for me, it was just 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.159 like that era was a lot of jacking, you know. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.760 It was a lot of pressure, extortion. You know, the 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:17.960 NBA players are getting extorted, Paul Day, NBA players, rappers, uh, musicians, 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.160 anybody came to LA. It was just not a good 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.000 place to be, you know what I mean. Like if 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.760 you got found or you was out shopping. It like 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.960 if if you can stay low cool, but back then 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.320 if you was, you was on the move and you 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.320 get caught it. I mean, you at Thay mercy. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.440 I was gonna say, because I always like, like, obviously 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.719 a lot of the stuff is highly back to the 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.880 camera phones thing. We see a lot more of the 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.440 people getting robbed on Sunset or on Melrose, and it's like, yeah, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.280 that kind of shit has always been happening in LA. 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.440 But I feel like back in the day it was 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.359 really like peak, you kind of had to come to 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.960 LA and like if you were gonna move around, you 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.240 really had to be in line with some guys to 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.120 make sure that there wasn't any sort of. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.359 Yeah, yeah, that was the whole Like, uh, the tap 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.080 In era, the tap In era, people's chains were getting 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.160 took people. Yeah, you get the chain back, We got it. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.640 I mean, you know, I got a couple of chains 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.680 back from some for some uh some rappers actually no 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.039 basketball players who changed, you get. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:22.520 We don't talk like that. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.680 I don't even know what labeled the I just know 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.000 they one of my favorite, you know, one of my favorites. Uh, 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.080 you know, a couple of rappers, man, just that's just 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.760 how it be, you know what I mean, Like couple 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:42.640 rappers just like come to and you gotta think like 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.240 coming up in that game era, the era with the game. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.680 When Game was first starting to like break out, like, 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:53.800 it was no blood rappers. It wasn't no bloods famous period, 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:54.640 you know what I mean. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.440 Yeah, if you really think outside of Mac ten, Yeah 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.960 it was Mac ten and then and then the game, 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:01.359 and then everybody was a blood. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.599 Everybody started being bloods, you know what I mean. So 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:08.720 imagine like rocking with a blood that is on his 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.680 way up, you know what I mean. In LA. So 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:13.200 it was a lot to deal with with that. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.640 And he was the face of LA for like a decade. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.840 He carried the whole coast for like a very long. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.600 Shit and and I think it just kind of for me, 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:27.720 like hanging with Game made me realize that, Okay, men, 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.040 my plan was me and Game rocking together. I mean, 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.920 he can unify the music, I can unify the hoop, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.960 and then we can create this l a unified system 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.680 where like we can make it better for dudes, you 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.560 know what I mean, Like we can stop all the 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.760 jacket and shit like that. You know what I'm saying, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.760 Like at least if they're fucking with us, they rolling 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.000 with us, they ain't gonna get jacked, You don't gonna 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.120 get robbed, ain't gonna get into no funny business, you 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.680 know what I mean? And like that was the goal 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.840 is really Like once I saw that, I was like, man, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.640 like Nip coming, Domn coming. You know. YG had had 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.960 a couple of songs, but YG was on his what 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:06.840 you know what I mean. It was a bunch of 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:12.040 dudes just like on They Rise. And I was like, damn, dude, Kendrick, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.480 you know what I mean. Jay Rock was out, but 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.960 Jay Rock was like on his wife. So like, I 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.960 remember we did the Gang, the Cripson Bloods Gang documentary, 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.360 and I was like, man, I need to put a 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.880 soundtrack together, and on the soundtrack it's all them dudes, 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.320 like damn their first soundtrack, right, I remember album? How 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:30.800 long ago was that documentary? 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:36.120 I think I want to say twelve four. I think 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:37.200 two thousand and four. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.920 Jesus Christ, Yeah, it was like two thousand and four 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.680 or when I got to Yeah, it was like two 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.840 thousand and four. I think I was in New Orleans 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:47.520 when that came out. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.240 When you end up on the Clippers, being a guy 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:56.160 who's from where you're from, playing in LA obviously not 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.560 for the Lakers, but playing for the Clippers, sure, you 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.360 guys have a very very entertaining team. But was it 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.000 like how much of the like extra shit did you 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:06.360 have to deal with it? 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.000 Being home all of it? Uh, you know what, like 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.760 being playing for the Clippers, Like and I never really 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.400 talk about that shit because people always talk about Doun 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.320 Levy or Donald Sterling, you know what I mean, But 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.199 just playing for the Clippers. Like my mission when I 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.880 left Golden State was like, all right, I know the 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:28.600 Clippers are the Clippers. I'm coming back home to hopefully 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.840 do what I did in Golden State. I told Golden State, 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.640 give me three years, you know what I mean, with 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.520 being the playoffs if we get the right people around, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.000 you know what I mean. Like, that's what I like, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.800 that's what I wanted to do. So coming here it 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.080 was like, yeah, if I can get the Clippers to 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.280 the playoffs, if I can turn the Clippers around, then 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.319 there'll be a whole different story, you know what I mean, 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.000 so historical, it would have been historical, and so like 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.840 that was kind of like my mission. It was like 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.199 I need to get through those first three years because 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.559 the first three years is all bullshit, you know what 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.240 I mean. You gotta clean up, you know, all of 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.840 just negative shit that be going around and you gotta 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.280 protect your teammates, and then you gotta build your teammates 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.480 to where they feel like they can walk in like 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.040 we walking in the season and like it's just us, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.360 you know what I mean, And then it's us and 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.080 the coaches and then everybody else. It's our family, you 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.320 know what I mean. And I think with the Clippers, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.959 it was just that's it was just hard, bro. That's 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:29.560 it was just hard because it was a lot of racism, sexism, backstabbing, 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.480 people telling lines, snitching and shit. And I was like, man, 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.800 I thought we came to work to play basketball. So 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:39.000 all of the Donald Sterling shit was very accurate, extremely 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:44.280 extremely accurate, you know, I mean, besides him, you know, 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.480 being like a piece of shit in the scum of 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.240 the earth, Like he's actually that speaking of extorted, he 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.000 got shopped down for real. Sure he got him on 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:56.760 camera video. Yeah she did him dirty. But he deserved it. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:11:00.199 Hell yeah, he deserves. He deserved way more than that, bro, 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.720 you know what I mean, You desive a lot worse 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:03.079 than that. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:09.280 It's crazy because I went from having this like like 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.120 genuine like love for the Warriors growing up as a kid. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.120 They were kind of like that fun team to always watch. 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:20.000 And then obviously the era of you, Michael Petrice, Barnes, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.199 Jay rich was such a dope era. But then fast 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:29.280 forward to this whole lass like decade of basketball. I 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.520 fucking cannot stand these Warrior fans now again, because they 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:34.600 knew they're new. 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.040 Listen. I lived in Tampa, Florida. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.559 I was doing rady on Tampa at the time when 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.320 the Steph Curry and and and the lebron and shit 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.319 was happening. And I'm in Tampa, and all of a sudden, 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.880 there's just this influx of hardcore Warriors fans in the 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:53.720 middle of Florida. And I'm like, where were y'all when 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:59.319 Mitch Richmond was there, Chris Mullen, Yeah, Baron Davis. But 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.240 it it's crazy because you have such like a place 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:06.120 in Bay Area history, in Warrior history. What is it 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.560 like for you to kind of you like, the Warriors 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.400 are kind of like a forgotten franchise and I feel 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.800 like you helped kind of re establish them on the map, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.680 but now they're like the franchise. Ye, what's that like 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.719 to kind of just witness like. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.480 It's amazing, man, you know, I just consider myself the 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.600 curse breaker. You are the curse breaker. I am definitely 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.240 the cursebreaker. Uh. And I you know, I just kind 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.600 of like I love watching the Warriors play. They played 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.760 the right way. I'm a huge Steph Curry fan. I 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.000 never forget saying to the Warriors, like when I signed 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.240 with the Clippers, like y'all don't even like y'all gonna 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.880 forget about me, like this kid is he's next, he's 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.800 your future. And when they win the championship, I feel 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.200 like I went to you know what I mean? Uh, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.400 And you know I was. I would say, just for 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.360 us with that, we would leave squad and me in 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.160 the Bay Area. It wasn't just on the court, it 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.760 was off the court. Is being accessible to people in Oakland, 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.600 San Francisco, in the hood, in corporate, in tech and 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.640 so like, you know, the Bay Area to me is home. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.120 And that's hard to say before La, dude, you know 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.720 what I mean, But it's like I got I got 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.240 real family, real real people who take care of me, 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.800 you know what I mean? Uh, in the Bay Area. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.120 So like whether I'm in LA or the Bay's, no, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.080 there's no difference, and there's definitely no hate. You know 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.040 what I'm saying in between anymore. So you know, my 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.400 goal was just when I went to Golden State was like, yo, 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.400 like we got to establish ourselves as somebody, you know 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.160 what I mean. Like we can't just be like the 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.480 dead corpse, you know what I mean that a Pacific Division. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.240 We got to have at least a style. So if 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.760 we get beat, like whattherfucker's it's like, oh, good game, 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.800 that's you know what I mean, Like I got game work. Yeah. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.839 But when when I got there, that shit was dead. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.640 It was you know, it was just like a lot 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.840 of dead energy and dudes didn't even want to play basketball. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.280 So for me, it was like, how the fuck don't 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.280 you want to play basketball? This is like how you 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.280 relieve your stress, your mental health, all that shit, Like 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.800 basketball was that. And so once we kind of like 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.440 got to a point, I think the city was just 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.800 like hold on, Like we got people who actually care 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.040 because nobody liked before whether you wanted to be there 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.760 or not, you didn't know because they just kept trading 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.600 coaches and players in and out. You know, Don Nelson 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.960 Mike Montgomery was the coach when I first got there, 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.640 and then we had a little success at the end 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.560 of the year, and then they brought him back, which 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.840 was a bad move for the second year, and he 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.920 started coaching you know what I mean, which is yeah, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.280 not probably something he can really do well, Ladies of 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:54.720 good dude. And then Don Nelson came in after Mike Montgomery. Yeah. Crazy, 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.720 and then we believe the year Dog it was crazy. Uh, 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.760 you know, we sucked that year year. I mean, you 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.520 guys are the eight seeds, you get the playoffs barely, 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:09.520 like uh at all. At All Star Break, there was 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.560 like we were the odd person out, kind of like 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.440 the Lakers this year. They were the thirteen seed at 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.280 the All Star That's exactly where we were. And then 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.440 all of a sudden, we just hit a run, like 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.600 we figured it out, you know what I mean, Like. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.000 Were you there the year that Steph got drafted or 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.120 was that in the off season traded off season? 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:36.840 Yeah, so we missed the playoffs. I go to the Clippers. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.160 The Clippers have a bad year, the Warriors have a 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.440 bad year. The Warriors draft Steph Curry. You know, Pick, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:45.000 I think. 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.960 I'm a huge Stuns fan, and I have to ask 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.960 you because you and this guy aren't necessarily tied together 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.640 but you guys do have some kind of coincidential yet 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:01.800 it's you and because obviously you leave the Clippers. He yeah, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:09.080 for sure, you leave the Hornets Chris Paul team. What's 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.680 your relationship like with CP and is there I mean, listen, 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.440 I have friends on the Suns, and I would say 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.120 most of my friends are not. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:19.280 Too fond of Chris. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.040 What is your like does he get a bad rap 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.800 amongst other NBA players? And how's your guys' relationship because 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.640 you guys are kind of tied together with two friendchies. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:31.520 Yeah, yeah, and crazy enough. I got all the love 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.640 and respect for Chris Paul when Chris Paul was at 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.840 Wake Forest. I called Chris Paul when I was in 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.680 the league, like, yo, bro, I fox with you. I 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.440 think his grandfather died. I was like, man, shouting you out, 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:44.880 like you gonna you know what I mean, just like 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.120 kind of like you know, we're brotherhood at the end 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.480 of the day, for sure. So like me and Chris 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.760 have always been linked like that. And so when I 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:57.040 left Charlotte, New Orleans and he came in, I kind 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.040 of figure like, all right, I'm gonna clean this ship 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.000 up and then I'm gonna let Chris Paul. Then Chris 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.119 Paul gonna come in and take it, you know, to 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.119 another level. But you know, I just think as a player, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.000 like he's an incredible point guard, you know what I mean. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:11.239 I think that's end. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.119 Yeah, he's a rising guy. Feels like with like his teammates. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.800 Yeah, he's a big personality. I think when you look 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.440 at him, you think, you know, CEO president, you know 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:25.240 what I mean, Corporate Players Associations President of NBA players. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.560 So when you're looking at that, you know, at your 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.280 leader out there on the floor, you know, like he 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.440 he coming with a full corporate you know what I mean, 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.760 corporate like he running it. He running that team away. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.760 He want to run a team. You feel very much 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.119 a coach on the floor. Big guy. Yeah, he'll be 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.439 a great He'll be an excellent coach, for sure. He 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:44.720 will be an excellent coach. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.440 Yeah, he's like like you said, like he's he's very 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.280 much he's running the team. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.240 He's just he he come in like his ship is 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:54.160 corporate business. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.840 You've played for a lot of coaches and I do 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.679 feel like that. We'll see certain teams like make a 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.240 coaching change, and it's like day and night right, How 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:09.240 important is coach like a coach like on an NBA team, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.400 Because a lot of times you'll hear, I guess, generic 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.919 basketball fans, it's about it's in the players hands, like 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:16.000 the players ain't performing. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.840 Man, No, it's it's you played for some bad coaches. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.479 You played for some great coaches. Play play for some 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.760 terrible coaches. I played for some great coaches too. I 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.960 played for some coaches that had we had one or 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.640 two other pieces, they would have been Hall of Fame. Come. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:37.600 You know what I mean? Championship coaches, the team dynamic 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.840 and the coach dynamic, Like you need a good coach. 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.560 Good coaches are hard to come by. What determines a 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.760 good coach? You know what I mean? A lot of 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.960 coaches when they come into the business, they like they 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.840 have established who they are, their style, what they're gonna do. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:19:01.560 A lot of times coaches that are players separate themselves 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:06.840 from the players today in order to be okay coaching. Then, 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:08.360 you know what I mean. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.479 Seems like at times like if there's a guy who 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.160 used to play, they kind. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:16.040 Of Mike, Hey, dude, Mike Dunlevy, he played in the league, 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.960 and all he would talk about in reference is when 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.920 he played, which was like in the fucking seventies. Gives 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:27.000 a fuck, You're not like you're and you're a point guard. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:28.840 So like I used to always be like like, yeah, 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.320 when I play, I said, coach, if you played in 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.280 this Ara Bro sweater, guy, I elbow you in your face. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:38.359 I follow you to the locker room, elbow you again. Well, 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.280 he wasn't a great He was not that great of coach. 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.480 Mike Dunnet. He was tough. He wan't to get along. 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.119 He he he was his son. Never on your guys team. No. 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.399 I played with Mike Mike Jr. Mike Jr. Is dope. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.159 He was cool. I played with Mike Jr. And Golden State. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:55.639 He actually got he was the trade. He was the 0:19:55.680 --> 0:20:00.119 person that they traded to Indiana for stat Uh and 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.320 Al Harrington. But like that's your crazy team. 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.240 It was a it was a how much weed was 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.879 getting passed around in that and those off off season 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.199 when you guys were like, you know, how they move together? 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:14.120 Everybody was one of the highest teams in the NBA. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:14.840 It was up. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:19.080 It was you had Al Harrington, Stephen John Well, he's 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:20.679 got a week now. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.920 But it's all yeah, But he he based that off 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.520 his grandma. And then Matt Barnes, Matt Barnes pothead. Oh 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:36.960 my good, Stephen Jackson podhead. I'm smoking. I'm a smoker. 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.159 I'm not a pot heead just I mean, I wouldn't 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.680 say that I'm a I'm a smoke, but I ain't 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.960 no pot. You know. I guess now maybe how crazy. 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.760 Was like the Bay Area night life scene in like 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.159 not crazy, not crazy because it still wasn't crazy. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.240 It's not crazy, but it was up, you know what 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.320 I mean when we was winning, it was up because. 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.159 That was like right after like the hyph Era was 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.639 like it was it was in the middle of it 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.320 was almost it was Yeah, we were still getting Hyphie 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:04.720 and ship. 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.560 Uh you know, to kick the sneak we was running. 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.040 We was running that up. Uh who else was we 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.840 running out? Mister fab has federation. Federation that was old, 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.800 that was older. Yeah, we was, Uh obviously forty is 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.840 always forty. Forty was cool. Let me ask you. Forty 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.439 wasn't around when we was forty was not? I was 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.720 gonna ask forty wasn't around, Ron. 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.720 Rolle, forty forty went, whether we believe you no, never 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:31.800 we have to talk forty next time I see him 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:33.960 and be like, you know, didd he said, you wasn't there, bro, No, 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:34.760 he wasn't there. 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.920 He went, No, he he showed up a couple of 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.320 times and ship. But you gotta think like in that time, 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.800 he forty was touring and traveling. True, he had to 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.840 the joint ghetto report the ship with fab and all that. 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:49.920 So for us, it was like shit, if he forty 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:51.600 would have came to the game, it would have like 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.679 we matched E forty. You feel what I'm saying, Like 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.800 our energy match E forty. Like we we the ones 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.760 who started telling the Warriors, ya, why we playing Bay 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.560 Area music when we at home? You know what I mean. 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:07.080 I remember, I'm only in town for the uh oh 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:12.120 yeah mister yeah. Like we've been yeah life for the party. 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.080 So we've been in layups and somebody lay up like this, 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:18.159 everybody just start dancing and ship fuck the lambs. We 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.240 just start grooving in the lawn. It was cool, man. 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.080 We had a We had a great fun team, and 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:27.640 it matched the personality of the city, of the city 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.200 of the whole entire Bay you know what I mean. 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:33.520 Because it wasn't just like, oh, we was stugging out, 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:35.480 smoking weed and ship like that. Like, no, we was 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:37.360 doing a lot. Bro. I was like, I just start 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:40.840 getting in tech. You know. Matt and Stacked, they were 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:43.760 always in the city doing you know, dope charity work. 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:48.240 Monte was doing. You know, was a young young boy 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:50.200 and he was a young he was a young dog. 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.080 He was a young dog. Jack Rich had been there 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.480 for five six, seven years doing everything. Rich is a beast. 0:22:57.480 --> 0:22:59.400 He gave the Sons a couple of great years. Man, 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.520 Jay rich Man, when we when I when I got there, 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.160 I was like, man, I remember sitting on the bus 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.000 and we was all like, man, can we make a playoff? 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:10.239 Run? 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.200 YadA YadA. We was like in the middle of the run, 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:15.680 I said, Man, we gotta do this shit for Jay 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:20.600 rich This man has been in this organization for seven years, 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:24.080 five years and had eight coaches in five years. And 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.679 all j Rich wanted to do was get to the playoffs. 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.639 He was the best teammate. He wanted to hoop and 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.240 get to the playoffs. And he kept playing hurt you 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:34.080 know what I mean, shit like that. And I remember, 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:38.600 because I was a little older in my career, was 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.320 like this because of injuries, like I didn't give a fuck. 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.960 I just wanted to play because a lot of injuries 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.280 in your career, and it was harder to not play 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.720 because all the ship that was going on that you 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.840 can get involved in when you just hurt and not playing, 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.960 and people got access when I'm playing, Yeah, I'm busy. 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.159 I ain't got no time. 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I 0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:58.359 know that? 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.359 So like now if you go to the Bay and 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.119 hein't got no car, I'm taking Like if you have 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.879 a rental, they say, like anybody will tell you you 0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.720 roll your windows down and you pop your trunk open 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:12.560 when you park. So that way, when you're going to 0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:16.000 your restaurant, you're going to the hotel or whatever, nippers will. 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.879 Drive by and they've already been. It's been here. 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:20.720 No no, no, no, they won't even bother it because 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.520 they'll know ain't nothing in there. The thing is is 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.480 they'll crack your window even if they don't see anything. 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:28.879 The windows getting cracked, no matter, just because it's an 0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:36.600 inconvenience state. Everybody to pop the trunk take everything in that. 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:41.120 It's wild, super crazy ship. 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.040 Yo, talk to me about the U c l A 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.600 Days man, because uh, one of my best friends is 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.479 a U c l A. Brewing and he was in 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.960 college in a fraternity when you were playing, and he 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.240 was just like so excited when I told him that 0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.520 you were going to be on the show. Uh, what 0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.119 was like the energy being because an LA kid at 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:07.080 U c l A. Obviously that was crazy. You guys 0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:08.399 were really good. 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:13.560 Yeah. We we had once again some problems my freshman year. 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.480 Shae Cotton, they didn't let it he was supposed to 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.720 come with us. Uh. And then Jelani and Chris they 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.919 got caught up, you know, for smoking during like the 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.680 first year or whatnot. And so we kind of played 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:31.040 like everybody played out of position. My freshman year we 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.280 started two point guards. Toby Pailey played like the three, 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.399 Chris Johnson played the four, Jr. Henderson played the five. 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:42.719 And so it was crazy because we had all the talent. 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:46.080 If our if our team would have potentially came together, 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.440 you know what I mean, and we could have sustained it. 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.240 We had all the talent to go out and win it. 0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.960 So U c LA it's all about winning national championships 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.800 for sure. So for me it was just like, man, like, 0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.080 I want to win the national championship, but I also 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.400 want to like this bitch on fire, you know what, 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:03.640 I mean, like let's send it up, you know, and 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:08.560 so you know cross Is dunks all that, like we 0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.560 were there that like no matter what we're gonna we're 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.160 gonna create some entertainment, you know what I mean. Growing 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.440 up watching U C l A basketball, it was always 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.120 like they were always good, always highlights. So I was like, man, 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.000 I gotta go there and like I gotta make sure 0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.240 I get my highlights, you know what I mean, like 0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.160 they remember me. Yeah, it was more so like they 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.040 have to remember me, Like I can't just be you know, 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.600 a traditional point guard. They got good stats and make 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.040 All Conference. Now I gotta do some ship where these 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.240 people are gonna remember me, you know what I mean. 0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.360 Do you feel like USC has slowly taken over La? 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.840 Absolutely no, I gotta ask you because they got they 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.280 got they got James. 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.040 If you don't, they're definitely taking over. I mean they've 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.280 kind of had football front. I ain't even got football. 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:57.160 We beat them, listen. Then Lincoln Riley's a hell of 0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:57.520 a coach. 0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:02.840 And you know it's a famous quote, it's just SC. 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.920 It's just a SC. Don't worry about. 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.400 It's so crazy to me because those two colleges, like if 0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.680 for people who don't know, Like if you were to 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:17.360 just drive around USC, it's in South central, right, and 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.640 then if you go to the other side of town, 0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:20.840 it's it's u C l A. 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.840 It's like night and day. The vibes, the just the students, 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.400 like the student flavor and energy is different. You know, 0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:32.080 like SC got like more of a downtown Like they 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.120 more like downtown, so they got like a New York 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.040 kind of vibe, you know what I mean, or like 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.680 a I don't know, a downtown vibe. On the West side, 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.720 people chilling, super laying out. You know, we're going to 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.240 the beach. You know, people from s C. They not 0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:46.840 driving all the way to the you know what I mean, 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.120 they not driving all the way to the beach. They're 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.880 going to go trying to find a rooftop pool. Right. 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.880 Talk to me about because I always do say that 0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:01.280 hip hop and basketball have always been so heavily aligned. 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:02.640 They're parallel to each other. 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.360 There's been a numerous artist outside of yourself that have 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.960 had ventures in hip hop. I mean I remember growing 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.560 up in Phoenix, s Mari Stodom. 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:10.920 Had a label. 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:16.040 Everybody growing Rollo had a label. I'm forgetting somebody he. 0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:23.080 Had a label. Do you remember the Best Kept Secrets? Yes? Yes, 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.920 of course. Jason Kidd had a song. Jason Kidd, Brian 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:32.200 Shaw had a song, had a video video. Sid had 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:36.200 a video out. Great DJ. People don't great DJ. He 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:39.360 can get down? Who else was on that album? I 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.400 had it? I bought it. Yeah, I feel like I 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.320 got to remember just being like what these guys are? 0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.360 You know? They was getting off to Dana Barrows. He 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.320 had a song and a video. It was sick. But 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.440 but that's what That's what I'm doing now. That's what 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:55.000 I was gonna say. 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.800 You're obviously involved in in You've always had your hand 0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:00.600 in hip hop. I feel like even when you're in 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.360 the league, you'd pop up in the game video or 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.240 you would be, you know, around a lot of these guys. 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:09.400 Since obviously ending your career, what has been because you've 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.640 been involved in so much on the entertainment side, kind 0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.520 of give me a rundown on what's going on on 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:14.600 the music side with you right now? 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.680 Yesh I created this character bart Olmeal bart o'mill is 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.360 the legend. The legend is bart Oldmeial. His tag get 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.240 a ball. You know what I mean? You ain't gotta 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.400 get one. You know, you can bring one if you 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:31.360 have one. Uh. And so I just start thinking about, like, damn, 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:35.320 my career over. I'm djaying, I want to get better 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:39.560 as a DJ, start producing, start sampling, producing, doing all 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.200 that shit. And then nobody would rap to my beats. 0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.800 So I was like, all right, well I'll start riding 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.880 and rapping, spin them all. Two beats can't be worse 0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.600 than Chris Webers. No, bro, I got heat. I'm just 0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.280 saying because Chris Webber had a beat on the No. 0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:56.080 He had like two beats on the NA were the 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.000 worst songs. And I love Chris Webber. 0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.440 It's like Chris Webb, we got beats that NBA saw 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.239 When NA says yes to that beat, it's because you're 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:06.240 Chris Webber. 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.760 It was a dope sample. He had a dope sample. 0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:15.080 No man, it was shot out the web. He took 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.440 the sample from the from the Whiz on that on. 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.960 That song with the NA song, the one song on 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.720 hip hop is dad, uh was not it? 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:32.040 Which wasn't for me? So so yeah, man, I'm producing. Yeah, 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.200 ain't nobody rapping to my ship? All the rappers around 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:38.440 here they like, oh yeah, that's cool. You know, I'm like, 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.840 all right, send me, send me the record back. You know, 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:46.000 it was Curtains Crickets really yeah, but I also feel 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.800 like it was early too, and so I was like, man, 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.160 I'm just gonna keep grinding. I I don't play basketball 0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.000 no more. So I go to the gym, go to 0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.600 the studio, and I started making a studio basketball because 0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.920 then I got a chance to write. So write a script. 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.640 It one day I write a script, one day I 0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.360 write a short story, one day I write you know, 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.440 just start making music and start writing. And so I 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.239 started making music, start writing, and I wanted to create 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.320 this character Bart Oatmeal that can speak and say whatever 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.879 the hell he wanted to, you know what I mean? 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:19.560 Because Bart and Baron is that completely different. Bart says 0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:23.320 something that doesn't yeah, and Bart is yeah, Bart, Baron 0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:27.600 Davis created Bart Oldmeal. Bart Oatmeal is slowly not fucking 0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.120 with Baron Davis. Okay, that makes it? 0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:34.239 Would you say that the uphill battle for you is 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.600 like because we know you as Baron Davis. 0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:39.920 Yeah, for sure. So it's hard because. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.799 We I don't think we've really seen Damian Lewire's done 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.640 a decent job recently of like you know. 0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.200 You can get down. Here's dumb, But. 0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.160 Is that the uphill battle for you? You would think 0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.080 it's it's like a benefit, but it's also kind of 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:56.720 not see you as a as a legendary NBA player player. 0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:01.120 Yeah, I mean it's what I you know what I mean, 0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:02.920 it is what it is. This is fun for me. 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.320 You're doing it because you want to? Yeah, I'm doing it. 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:09.399 Hell yeah, I'm like, you know, it's also like good 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.400 mental therapy, you know what I mean. I went to 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.399 I went to the art. Like it's like going into 0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:19.759 the arts allow me to be able to like kill 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.400 a lot of that anxiety, you feel what I'm saying, 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:24.759 Or be able to sit and watch a game and 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:28.000 not have anxiety about if I would it, should have 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.759 did it? You know? Yeah, none of that, bro, It's 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.120 just now I get to be around another community and 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:38.040 build a community of like dope artists. Still funk with 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.320 my NBA dudes, you know what I mean. Now they rapping, 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:45.719 So it gives me reason again to be involved because 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.520 I can produce, curate and then bring the NBA dudes 0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.360 and the rappers together for ballers. 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:56.200 Yes, sir, you are hell yeah, Okay, So I know 0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:57.759 a couple of guys that wrap it. You might not 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:03.480 do you know Jared Jackson Junior raps J Yeah he's 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:04.200 recorded here. 0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:08.239 Yeah he's hard trip j what up boy? He came. 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:13.480 That's my dog, Dame dam It's called Miles Bridges. Miles Bridges, 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:18.000 who is actually dope Dope, super dope bones, Highland Dope 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.480 Bones Hyland raps. I mean Katie has a song from 0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:26.359 like twelve years ago. You got to bring the whole 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.080 everybody together, man. Yeah, all the dudes just like Ola 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.800 Depot he sing. Oh yeah, he could sing like Serge Ibaka. 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:36.319 He got like kind of like a like an AfroB vibe. Yeah, 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.880 for people have Victor Olipo's don't Yeah, Victor oly Depot 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.319 can sing for real for real? Uh? Who else? It's 0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:48.480 a couple other people. Uh. Kawhi he rapped, kaid I 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.120 put it, he put a he put a compilation out, 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:55.040 But Kawhi rap see I I yeah, I got, I got. 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:56.600 I was in the studio. 0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:00.319 That hard because I have hard. I have a hard 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.600 to me. I would I would only assume he had 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:10.520 zero flow. No, he hard, bro, He's just like Monday. No, No, 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.319 does he rap like he talks at this press conferences. 0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.960 No, I gotta hear this. No, It's it's crazy because 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:20.879 you know, we all chilling in the studio and he's 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.440 playing the ship and I'm like, man, who is that 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.120 this motherfucker going? He was like, Yo, that's like good, 0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.840 that's he was like, hell yeah, wow, Like he dope. 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:32.000 Her Derosan is dope. I don't doubt that. The man 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.520 with a lot of dope rappers. The mar sounds like 0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.879 god damn two thousand, like he should have been out 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:43.279 with in the game. Hell yeah, dumar hard damar. Who 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:48.320 else lou Will is dope? Will's been dope. Yeah, shout 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.520 to Will. My guy's got one of the greatest lives ever. 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:55.400 Hey man, he friends. At the same time, he was 0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.799 dropping videos on World Starr and Ship the swag, all 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:03.320 the swag. Terry Roseier is hard. Scary, Terry scary, Terry 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.440 is hard. Yeah, it's a bunch of dudes. I've just 0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:11.040 been like DMN dudes, Darren Darren Waller. I think John 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.479 Moran wants to be a rapper. I mean, you should 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:17.520 him on something. I'm sure he can't. I'm sure he can. 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.640 I'm sure he can. What would be everybody act like 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.120 he going to jail or something. It's like, oh, you're 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.359 gonna have free time. He gonna be honest. It's like, bro, 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.920 he's not going to jail. He didn't commit a crime. 0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.319 There's no crime committed. Everybody in the world is like, 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.000 damn John Moran going to jail, John Moran, like you 0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.200 about to do life. It's like, no, he's not, Bro, 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.960 do commit a crime. I know, I think this hard. 0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.319 I think the whole thing is very overblown. I just 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.279 think that, you know, once again, we go back to 0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.399 social media. You go back like think about this, right, 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.560 every day you wake up your basketball content you get 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:55.800 in from who social media? 0:38:56.080 --> 0:39:00.120 Steven A, Oh yeah steven A or skip skip yeah. 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:07.319 Shannon Shark, JJ Reddick, Richard Jefferson. You feel what I'm saying, Like, man, 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:12.319 who's credible? I mean, JJ Redick and Richard Man, if 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:16.839 you don't knock it off, how could JJ? I mean? 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:21.080 And I love JJ Wright, but here a great career, man, Listen, 0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.279 BRO hit a long career. So did Richard Jefferson. So 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:29.680 yes career, they'd had a great career. But the what 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.959 made JJ Redick like what made me kind of sour 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:38.480 on JJ Redick is how he disrespected Jerry Wes. You 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.440 feel what I'm saying, that was it. I'm gonna lead 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.600 that at that, you know what I mean? Yeah, because 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:48.399 JJ Reddick should never speak on Jerry West. You can't 0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.840 even sit at the same table, bro, if it's a 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:54.120 big ass basketball banquet, you are not you know what 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.560 I mean, You're not at the same table as Jerry West. 0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:59.719 Jerry was not even talking to you, bro. To be fair, 0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.040 though it ain't no to be fair. I think Jerry West, 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:07.719 he said, Jerry West played with what plumbers? Right now? 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.520 Go back to JJ Reddick clip and he said, man, 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.920 I choose three hundred jumpers a day, you know what 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.680 I mean? I do my workouts was harder, bro. And 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:20.040 you couldn't fix a car and go play basketball, JJ 0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.600 Reddick did all this just to be an NBA. You 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.920 couldn't have been a mechanic and did that like so, 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.480 you couldn't have played when there was mechanics, right. I don' 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.240 want to hear that, you know what I mean. I can't. 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.719 I can't listen to that because you put all this 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:40.120 work in to be average. He was a specialist. He 0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:41.880 was average right right right? 0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:43.440 He was not an All star. He was a he 0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:45.960 was an average bridge great role player. 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.640 He was average. He's a good role player, he was 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:57.440 average Jerry West the logo, right, So we like. The 0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.799 only thing I don't like is like a lot of 0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.560 time people just be saying shit for like clickbait or 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:05.960 cloud or probably what they personally feel. But when you 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.160 look at you know, I'm a historian, When you look 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:09.279 at the game, it's like. 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:14.480 You can't disrespect its rim damn near thirty something bird 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:18.759 shoot better than you look at I look at the 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.479 basketball convo kind of like the hip hop convo, right, 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:25.080 because you can't say something you can't say you can't 0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:30.680 disrespect run DMC because when they when they started making 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.359 hip hop, it was a different. 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:33.919 Art form ever disrespected. 0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.040 But I'm saying, like when we talk about the all 0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:39.759 time break list, right for guys liked even like rock Him, 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.080 somehow gets like like slept on that because it's different 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:43.680 hip hop. 0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:47.200 Dudes was talking shit about Tupac, you feel what I'm saying. 0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.399 They was talking shit and talking about Tupac couldn't rap, 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.280 you know what I mean. And it was like, Okay, 0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:56.799 who's saying this, right? Yeah, No, that's fair. You know, 0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.440 that was my whole thing. Like, so like making up 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:05.680 getting your media from like five people true Big Perk 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:07.319 shout to Park shout out. 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.080 Like sounds like he sounds like bun. 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:20.400 Be and PIMC when he says when he says players. 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.759 That sounds like U GK, Brog, Big Park V up 0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:22.400 there rapping. 0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.000 They ever did they ever try to like hit you 0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:26.280 to try to do something similar? 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.800 Yeah, I feel like, uh like I feel like audition Yeah, 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.359 I just never auditioned. I did the T and T thing. 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.279 That was cool, but it was uh, it was just 0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.319 what about a podcast? Would you do a podcast? Yeah? 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:39.319 I feel like I should do it. 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.120 You should, man, there's lots of money out there, and 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:44.840 there's some shitty, shitty basketball players doing podcasts getting money. 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.279 I know. Yeah, there's some real role players out here, 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:48.759 you know what I mean, It's some real people that 0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:52.440 shouldn't be talking out here or shouldn't be talking about 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:53.680 certain ship you know what I mean. 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:58.239 You mentioned something earlier that like doing music writing, being 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.360 a creative now helps kind of you keep your mind 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.680 off of maybe some of the what ifs of your 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:07.400 NBA career. You were somebody whose career was filled with 0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:09.000 a lot of what ifs because you had a lot 0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:09.560 of injuries. 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:12.600 Give me, like, how hard? 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:14.839 Because I don't think we hear the side of like 0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.319 somebody like you who's an All Star, who I mean, 0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:21.480 at your peak, when you're healthy, can play with anybody 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.480 in the league. When you have one of those careers 0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.640 where there's a lot of injuries, how much does that 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.120 weigh on you mentally when you start like thinking too 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.640 much about like damn, if I'd have been healthy or 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:34.319 what if? 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.160 For what could it? Would have? Should have? Like is 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:41.520 that a hard thing to kind of a deterioration of 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:45.920 the mind, right when you think about if I would have, 0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.839 should have, could have? And you can't do nothing else 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.040 about it, you know what I mean. It's like I 0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.719 can't turn it around, you know, after I retire and 0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.000 be like, all right, I'm gonna go ahead and do 0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:58.759 all this shit, right, you know what I mean? It 0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:04.400 was just you have to accept life and what you 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.800 thought your NBA career was gonna be, I supposed to 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:11.640 what it actually is. And then you gotta learn to 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:15.919 appreciate like there were better players than you that had 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.719 shorter NBA careers, you know what I mean? There are 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:22.680 sorrier players that have had illustrious careers. You know what 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:27.840 I mean. You made it food like who is cut 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.520 like you? Who came from what you came from, you 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:35.480 know what I mean? And then you should respect everybody 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:39.440 who's played in this league from here to here, so 0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:43.520 everybody gets to respect and appreciation. And I think for me, 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:45.400 it was like all right, now I can lead that 0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:49.320 shit right there, I'm done. I want to leave it there, 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.600 and like I can't talk about like I can talk 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.880 about it all day. If I would have should, I 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:56.920 can talk about it. But if I start living in 0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:01.600 that erg my mind be I'm be thinking about that 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.680 all the time. So me, I can never really be present, 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:10.040 right and I can never really be half pride or 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.440 the confidence, you know what I mean That I need 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:17.120 to be present because I'm always thinking about some shit 0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.560 went wrong. I fucked up. I should have did this, 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.120 or I should have did that, or what if I 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:23.279 wouldn't got hurt, or if I wouldn't have got hurt. Yeah, 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:26.440 but like yeah, if I wouldn't have got hurt, like 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.520 it had been cracking, but I got hurt, And a 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:33.000 part of like me being hurt was like I always 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.759 played hurt, So it was never help your career. My 0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.120 whole career, I was never healthy, you know what I mean. 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.800 It was like not one year, maybe one year or 0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.239 two that I kind of came into the season like 0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.560 I feel good, Yeah, you know what I mean. Like 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.440 other than that, it was always like I came in 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:54.160 college with a just came off aca my fresh My 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.759 first year in the league, I had torn carllage in 0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.600 my knee. I never got surgery. Second year in the league, 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:03.040 still had that torn carlage, had a little minor surgery 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.239 in the off season, played, came back played the second year. 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.279 Third year, that's when my back start hurt, you know 0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:08.719 what I mean. 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.040 Like it was just just always we're dealing with it, 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:12.799 but it was like I couldn't. 0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:16.359 It's like you be hurt. But then it's like dog 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:18.839 and mine just starting like you can't be out there. 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.480 You start feeling bad. You want to work harder, You 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.600 can't work as hard as you want to get to 0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:30.239 overthink yourself into a place. Yeah, hell yeah, it's not 0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.200 It's not easy, you know what I mean. It's not easy, 0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:37.200 Like you know, waking up every day and like you know, 0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.680 thinking about can I do this again, you know what 0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:43.360 I mean, Like Doe, they love me, you know what 0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:43.719 I mean. 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:47.400 It's like, well. 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:46.360 You know what. 0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.279 The one thing about you, Baron was I feel like 0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:52.440 anybody who was like a true basketball fan, like I 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.799 really appreciated when you were playing because you were like 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.480 I feel like you were kind of like like like 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.719 who It's like kind of like fucking guy. You know, 0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:03.840 like a few guys like you, Like I remember I 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:09.839 used to love watching stuff on Malberry Yo. That last 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.200 nixt team you played on. 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These promo codes you got 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:18.920 might have had hurt. Try both of them, all right, 0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:19.359 one of them. 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.319 Get you fifty percent off. Goddamn it. Anyway, let's get 0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.520 back to the interview. Because it was kind of like 0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:26.640 my locker was next to Jeremy Lynn's. Oh so it 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:29.399 was cracking after those games next to the locker. It 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.240 was No, it wasn't cracking. It was like, my locker 0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:37.719 is here, Jeremy Jeremy Lynn locker is here, and there's 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.480 one hundred and fifty media in the locker. I mean, 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:44.120 not cracking. You have to leave. You have to get 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:45.920 hey man, hold on, let me get my shit and 0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.680 let me go change in the in the regular bathroom, 0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:52.400 in the bathroom stall. Heyde Jeremy Lynn had the whole 0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:57.239 team changing in the fucking shower wherever we could. You 0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.080 couldn't be in that locker room. They have to move 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:04.279 him from the locker room, and every interview he had 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.480 was a press conference. Crazy. It was like one hundred 0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:11.080 and fifty people every time he had to get interviewed. 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:12.759 He couldn't do it in the locker room because it'd 0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.080 be too many people in the locker locker room. You 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.520 couldn't change, you couldn't stretch, you couldn't do shit. So 0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:20.200 they have to like take him to another sport. D'Antoni 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:23.880 coaching that team. D'Antoni was, Yeah, it's crazy because I 0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:27.000 think like me and D'Antoni used to call Jeremy Lynn 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:30.239 angels in the outfield. I tell because I told that 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:32.839 because I was Jeremy Lynn was there to like help 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:36.640 me get back to planning. So I needed another week. 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.240 And so that's how he wind up staying that week, 0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.799 playing against brook the Brooklyn Nets, and then going on 0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.359 his run. That's how he got his other ten day. 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.480 Because I wasn't ready. My back was still fucked up, 0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:50.319 and if you would have been healthy, we might not 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.840 ever would have never seen Jeremy Lynn. Crazy. 0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:57.160 There was like this thing because Mello was injured at 0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:58.640 the time, right, and went on that run. 0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:01.520 Yeah, because I told Mellow. Mellow was carrying the team 0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:04.600 Mellow was carrying the team and he was like, you know, 0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:07.440 we were struggling. We was like losing by six, losing 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:09.719 by four, and it was all due to we didn't 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.680 have a point guard that went downhill because Mike Mike 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:15.400 Bibby was on the team. Right was on the team, 0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:18.719 but Mike Bibby was Mike Bibby was towards the end 0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:22.080 of his career. Tony Douglass was a point guard, but 0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:24.480 not really a point guard. Aman Shumper was a rookie 0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:26.680 who was a shooting guard, not a point guard, play 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:29.719 on that team. Yeah, so like j R. Smith on 0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:33.440 that second time, j R. Smith a rookie. Yeah, he 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:37.239 was my rookie year, but like his rookie year was 0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:39.719 uh the I feel like that was the year I 0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:42.200 got traded to go to State. Yep. I think it 0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.040 was yep. So you played with him for like a 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.319 half a year. Yeah, but he's you know, Swiss used 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:48.799 to live with me. Yeah, like he lived with his 0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:52.520 parents in New Orleans, but like you know, when he 0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.960 wanted to go out and hang out, like I'm spending 0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.120 night at bad house, We're gonna go to practice. So 0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.279 Swiss is like my little brother for life. 0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:02.040 I didn't say the mellow Jeremy Lynn thing. I remember 0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:05.600 the national narrative was like, uh, you know, how's mellow 0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:07.799 gonna play with Jeremy Lynn when he comes back from 0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:11.040 being healthy. Was there like any sort of like ever 0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.200 any tension in the locker room between that with that 0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:14.520 whole situation. 0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:20.040 Uh, there was some weird shit going on because obviously 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:24.480 like we're riding the wave super wave and thelysanity wave 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.000 is a mellow out. Remember he was injured when he 0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.080 when he went on that run. Yeah, yeah, he going 0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:31.120 to run. We went like five six in a row. 0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:38.760 Mellow come back. But when Mellow come back, Jeremy Lynn 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:43.520 is the biggest star in the world. Fucking fuck New 0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:45.799 York in the world. Fuck New York the world, bro 0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:49.879 sure the world. He is the He has literally went 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:53.640 from like nobody to the base of the NBA for sure. 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:57.120 And you gotta remember, also, I feel like we are 0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:01.280 just transitioning out of the whole lockout, remember the lockout squeeze. 0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.200 So we about a year and a half or maybe 0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:05.319 two and a half years in so it's like the 0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:09.640 league is still needing a thing to happen. Man, when 0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:12.480 that thing happened. It was like Mellow came back and 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.680 Jeremy Lynn was so big. He was bigger than Mellow 0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:19.440 media wise, and so it did create a little like 0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:23.359 this ship is not like we can't we can't live 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.040 in sustainable or not. Yeah, Bro, we can't live in this, 0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.759 but like we should be living in it. But I 0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:33.759 think like it started to create like tension in the 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:37.440 in in the way we played, you know what I mean, 0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:41.359 because it's still Mellow team. It's Mellow is still the dog, Mello, 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:43.200 you know what I mean. Mellow is still our goal 0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:47.880 the team. Omari was on the team. Amari was injured 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.720 and coming back. But remember it was Amari's team first 0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:56.200 first year had a rocking. When he had that first 0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:59.120 year with the next we had it rocking, he had 0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:02.759 it rock mother injury another I mean yeah, think about that, 0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:06.560 like like now, imagine Amaro Stottamayer, what if? Why Why 0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.120 would I sit here and be questioning myself crazy? You 0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:13.439 got people like you know, Amari Stot, Yeah, Brandon Roy, 0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:15.799 Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill. 0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:17.880 Grant Hill would have been probably been the top ten 0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:22.080 player ever, Sewan Livingston. 0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:22.160 Like Bro, we ain't even get to see the real 0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:24.200 Sean Living. I mean we saw it. We saw him 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.880 a great career. I saw him have an incredible career, 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:29.880 but you didn't see what could have been. You know 0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:31.520 what I mean? But you can't live on that ship? 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:35.360 Was Mike D'Antoni Because I'm a Suns fan, so obviously 0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:37.440 I have a place in my heart for him. How 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:39.640 was he like to play with Was he. 0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:41.480 Doing the seven seconds or least ship with you guys? 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:45.480 Mike D'Antoni was as a coach? Was cool? Yeah? No defense? 0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:47.640 Did God give a shit about defense? Is one talking 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:51.440 about no defense? He wasn't talking about it talking about it? 0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:54.440 I ain't talking about no defense just seven seconds or 0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:57.520 les offense. No, it wasn't so much seven of seconds. 0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:01.320 It was just more so like he needed his point 0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:06.640 guard to go north south. Yep. And as talented as 0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:10.360 you were being able to go north south, his point 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:14.520 guard was the most integral part of the of the 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:19.400 offense because anytime point guard goes downhill, the whole lane, 0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:23.640 the whole defense. Yeah, because you got shooter, you got 0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:24.480 shooters surrounding. 0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:24.719 Yeah. 0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:26.839 Yeah. And then if the big man is setting a pit, 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:29.919 you really playing two on two basketball. If they stay 0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:33.040 at home. So like, that's why Steve Nash was so good. 0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:37.920 You know, Chris Duhan had thirty one assists the Knicks. 0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:43.120 Duhan was a fucking I remember Havings and his system 0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:46.719 man and d'antoni's system. If you're point guard and you 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:50.360 go north, That's why Jeremy Land was so successful because 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.360 at the time he could penetrate that pain man. He 0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:56.239 just put his head down, drive right and go and 0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:58.759 he's not bad. He can make players at the rim, 0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:01.080 he can finish. He's a big your guard, you know 0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:04.359 what I mean. But if you go downhill, even if 0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:08.160 you get in trouble, somebody's open facts and so like 0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:11.840 that's kind of like the D'Antoni system. That's why I 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.320 went to the Knicks, you know at the end of 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:15.879 the day, because I was like, damn if I can 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.160 get right, right, I can, I can Steve nast this ship, 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.640 you know what I mean? Yeah, hell yeah, but it's 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:23.560 just like I fuck my shit up. I came in 0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:26.280 and the Knicks not thinking I'll be able to walk again. 0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.400 Was Isaiah Thomas the GM at the time, it was 0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:30.600 Glenn Gronwall. 0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:34.720 Okay, shout out to Isaiah Thomas. Very scared that he's 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:36.440 going to take over the Sun's GM position. 0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:39.760 We'll see, Oh, that'll be dope. I don't know would 0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:40.040 it be. 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:42.760 We'll see that's real tight with Matt Ishbiel, So yeah, 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:43.479 that'll be dope. 0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.040 I will see. I'm just liking. I'm like, I think 0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:50.280 James Jones is there now. Yeah, James is great. Yeah, James, 0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:51.720 James Jones is cool. 0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:56.800 Okay, give me quick, your favorite teammate you've ever played 0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:01.000 with and the best teammate skill wise you've ever played with. 0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:03.680 Your favorite and the best are two separate things. 0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:09.080 Person Yeah, I would have to say probably, Like, damn, dude, 0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:11.479 I got so many favorites. I hate doing that ship. 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:13.440 Just give me, give me the first one that comes 0:58:13.480 --> 0:58:15.040 to mind without you know. 0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:17.880 Or give me a couple of mantel is. Elden Campbell. 0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:22.120 Eldon Campbell the o G big Homie. Eldon Campbell is 0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:25.000 the original and I need people to know this. He 0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:29.440 is the original big homie. There's nobody in the league 0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:33.080 that was calling they centered big homie outside of us. 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:38.080 Eldon Campbell took the whole big home. Yeah, me and him. 0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:43.200 Dereck Coleman, Hell yeah, dude, we had some crazy people. 0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:46.200 Hey dude, we had Derek Comen used to bomb on me. 0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:52.800 Wow, hey man on the Nicks. 0:58:54.840 --> 0:59:00.040 The nicest, scariest you know what I mean? Big, I 0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:03.320 mean you could ever have. He's a very underrated power forward. 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:07.640 He's super underrated. Yeah. Yeah, Brown was on that squad. 0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:11.280 Elvin Kimbell was the first big homie, So you know 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:14.320 my big homie. That's fun. Yeah, okay, what about the 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:23.480 best the best teammate I've probably ever played with. That's tough. Yeah, 0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:27.640 so I mean I played with Mellow with the Knicks, 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:30.160 so I saw I wasn't like where I was, but 0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:34.480 he was doing some crazy ship Jamal Mashburn. You got 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:37.360 to put him up there cold, You gotta put him 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:41.040 up there. What about turing the Clippers run? Who was 0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:44.800 there's nobody Blake came but he was young, but nobody 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:49.560 Yeah not not like well, when when Blake got drafted, 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.320 he didn't play the first year. Yeah, he got hurt 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:54.520 the first year and then he came back his rookie year. 0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:56.600 It was really his second year, his second year, but 0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:58.760 he got hurt his rookie year. I feel like I 0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:00.440 think he did too. Yeah, I feel like he got 1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:03.520 hurt the rookie year too. What was on your Clippers team, 1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:06.680 because I remember DeAndre were my rookies. Eric Blesso was 1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:10.760 my rookie. Eric Gordon was my rookie. Jesus, that's a lot. 1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:14.400 Those are some guys. Yeah, those were my rookies. Who 1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:16.720 else was on the team. I can't remember. Craig Smith, 1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:21.240 Ryan out from here? Uh Eric go, Yeah, those are 1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:24.440 my rookies. Ryan Gomes was on that team. I believe 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:27.280 Eric Gordon. We we you know, we had we had 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:29.840 a cracking like when we when we had the black 1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:35.800 Ship and DeAndre er was your rookie too, was of 1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:37.040 a Suns fan. 1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:40.080 The Dark Ages is when the only jersey I could 1:00:40.120 --> 1:00:41.480 go buy at our team shops. 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:46.240 Was Eric Eric Closets and the other point guard from 1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:48.600 Kentucky what was his name? He was really nice? 1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:56.480 Uh you about Tyler Tyler h Ednis, Tyler Short. 1:00:56.760 --> 1:00:58.240 I like that kid. All right. 1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:03.560 Last question, hardest player to defend that you had to 1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:04.560 play against. 1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:09.360 Hardest player to defend? Yeah, oh man, okay, let me 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:15.200 tell you this unfair. I am a point guard six 1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:20.360 three maybe two fifteen two eighteen at the guard Michael 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:24.240 Jordan or on the Wizards the Wizards, but which was 1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:27.480 still a the fifty point game. Wait, you were guarding 1:01:27.720 --> 1:01:29.600 Jordan when he didn't score them all. He scored like 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:32.920 eight ten on me. Wow. So for people who don't 1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:37.360 know that, people, fucking that's up. I'm gonna tell you 1:01:37.560 --> 1:01:41.200 this is where I think there's a Michael Jordan like 1:01:41.400 --> 1:01:46.120 Maketrix you can fall into because you watching him and 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:49.400 he's scoring, and he's making this shit look easy and 1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:54.880 he's entertaining, and you, as the offense and the defense, 1:01:55.440 --> 1:02:03.720 you just fall asleep like admiring fall silence Jordan Hayes 1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:06.080 where you're just like, let's call it the timeout. Lee 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:09.360 Naylor was guarding him in the beginning. Paul Silas called 1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:12.520 the time out. Man, what the fuck y'all doing? And 1:02:12.640 --> 1:02:15.760 everybody's sitting there like, you know, like, damn, dude, is 1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:19.600 Jordan got sixty points? Like man, y'all just watching this dude? 1:02:20.000 --> 1:02:22.320 Like we were literally like you're watching him like. 1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:25.800 Like damn, like go ahead, like you're not gonna help? 1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:28.360 Do U? G do you? 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:28.560 Bro? 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:32.240 Was ill? It was ill because you know then it 1:02:32.360 --> 1:02:34.360 was like all right, fuck it, I got him and 1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:36.760 he hit me with the fane and it's like, damn, 1:02:36.800 --> 1:02:39.160 I ain't getting no help. I'm looking around everybody looking 1:02:39.200 --> 1:02:44.000 at me, like John, that was some good defense. Well, 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:46.040 I think people trying to like as a good defense. 1:02:46.120 --> 1:02:48.600 Jordan wasn't cold on the Wizards. He was cold. I 1:02:48.640 --> 1:02:51.280 watched all gave us a fifty piece show, went to 1:02:51.320 --> 1:02:53.600 the All Star Game, almost took him to the playoffs. 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:57.400 We had beat them in Charlotte. I think I had thirty, 1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:59.800 Mass had twenty something, you know what I mean, And 1:02:59.840 --> 1:03:02.280 so the whole you know, Jordan gotta get his bounce back. 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:05.000 Shit like that fifty points. That was the bounce That's 1:03:05.000 --> 1:03:07.040 what this shit. Yeah, man, he came out and here 1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:10.280 like sixteen in the first quarter. I seen, I was 1:03:10.320 --> 1:03:12.800 watching it. I was there. This is all this like, 1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:16.840 I'm like, damn, he just got sixteen, Okay, shit, Damn 1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:20.120 he got twenty four at halftime. Damn he got foty 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:23.400 in the third quarter. And you're just admiring it. No, 1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:26.440 by the time halftime come around, you're like, hey man, 1:03:26.440 --> 1:03:29.040 we can't let this move. Fucker get this guy. 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:32.000 He's a lot older than this guy's like like, bro, 1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:33.000 you're doing everything. 1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:36.680 It's over. You're doing everything to stop him now it's ober. 1:03:36.720 --> 1:03:38.600 He heard him rip Hamilton Jaheedi White. 1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:41.120 It's like the most random like assortment of players on 1:03:41.120 --> 1:03:41.680 the Wizards. 1:03:41.760 --> 1:03:43.520 Man. It was like it's like he coming out of 1:03:43.520 --> 1:03:45.440 the game and it's like almost like you know, people 1:03:45.520 --> 1:03:48.760 just getting their flow getting shot and shit. Actually not like, man, 1:03:48.760 --> 1:03:52.200 this motherfucker got twenty four, Like and you playing hard, 1:03:52.360 --> 1:03:53.840 you know what I mean, But it's still like the 1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:57.240 intensity of the game ain't picked up yet. Wow. And 1:03:57.280 --> 1:04:00.000 by the time you your intensity level pick up, like. 1:04:00.320 --> 1:04:02.800 He laughing at you at that point, What about the 1:04:02.800 --> 1:04:06.360 most underrated guy that you played against, Because there's a 1:04:06.360 --> 1:04:07.560 lot of players who don't get. 1:04:07.480 --> 1:04:15.520 Brandon Roy, Nick van Axell, Jason Terry uh uh, Damon Stottlemeyer, 1:04:18.200 --> 1:04:20.120 Michael Redd, Michael Red. 1:04:20.160 --> 1:04:24.959 When he was on the Bucks, Darren Williams Yes shot 1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:32.400 out to d will Jared Jack, assistant coach for the Suns. Well, 1:04:32.400 --> 1:04:34.320 I don't know if he is anymore, because you know. 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:36.400 I just think that dude was highly underrated. I think 1:04:36.400 --> 1:04:41.400 he's going to Detroit. I think Tony Parker, I mean, 1:04:41.640 --> 1:04:44.919 Hall of Famer. But like you don't talk, we don't 1:04:44.920 --> 1:04:47.360 talk enough. We talked more about Chris Paul than we 1:04:47.360 --> 1:04:50.800 do Tony Parker and Parker got the rings. To me, 1:04:51.080 --> 1:04:55.360 Parker top five point guard all time. Wow. I mean 1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:57.200 if you look at it, you know where he sit. 1:04:58.280 --> 1:05:01.040 You got him above CP all time, have to you 1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:05.560 got four titles. That's fair. I mean you know what 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:08.000 I mean. Like if you if you're putting it like, 1:05:08.040 --> 1:05:10.720 you know, you got stock Thing, you got Magic, you 1:05:10.800 --> 1:05:18.640 got Isaiah, you got Steph stephte Steph is, Yeah, you 1:05:18.720 --> 1:05:19.320 got Steph. 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:24.520 I think you got Tony Parker. I put c P 1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:27.000 in the in that five spot. I think I just 1:05:27.040 --> 1:05:31.800 think Parker was blessed to play in that Spurs system. 1:05:32.040 --> 1:05:36.760 I think if you put Chris if you can't say that, 1:05:37.280 --> 1:05:41.000 they wouldn't have won. If you put Chris on the Spurs, 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:45.280 they wouldn't one. You don't think so, m M Nope, 1:05:45.360 --> 1:05:50.160 because Chris Paul play a different style. Like people, people 1:05:50.600 --> 1:05:53.480 don't appreciate Tony Parker. 1:05:54.120 --> 1:06:00.360 I agree that as a fan who had ripped out, 1:06:00.800 --> 1:06:03.120 you hate him, you hate him, had ripped out by 1:06:03.120 --> 1:06:04.240 the But I. 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:08.280 Would say he's probably the most underrated person that people 1:06:08.320 --> 1:06:11.400 don't talk about. Yeah. I even think somehow Tim Duncan 1:06:11.800 --> 1:06:17.360 is like, don't Yeah for sure. I just hate watched him. Yeah, 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:21.360 like you people, no emotion when he scored. I'm like, dude, 1:06:21.400 --> 1:06:22.800 can you can you get it together? 1:06:22.880 --> 1:06:26.640 He's just nonchalantly cooking us, sending us home every fucking playoffs. 1:06:26.960 --> 1:06:27.080 Uh. 1:06:27.120 --> 1:06:28.880 Anyway, well, look, anything going on? 1:06:29.200 --> 1:06:31.240 Can you kind of give us a quick idea on 1:06:31.240 --> 1:06:33.360 what's going on the music side here? 1:06:33.480 --> 1:06:36.960 Bart oat Mill, you know down lo I am not 1:06:37.200 --> 1:06:41.360 I am at Bart Oatmeal, at Bart dot Oatmeal. You know. 1:06:41.400 --> 1:06:44.560 I've been working with some dope Uh producers, Mike and 1:06:44.640 --> 1:06:47.840 Keys shout out big shout out to Mike and Keys 1:06:47.880 --> 1:06:51.040 apaying the album. I got my young producers and the 1:06:51.120 --> 1:06:55.280 Sean and Ai with me. Uh got some stuff from 1:06:56.200 --> 1:06:59.520 no Id. Shout to no Idea. He's a legend, you 1:06:59.600 --> 1:07:02.080 know what I mean? And Uh I got a song 1:07:02.160 --> 1:07:05.320 with g Perico, Dom Kennedy, j Stone just keeping it. 1:07:05.960 --> 1:07:11.640 You know. Glasses, Damar Glasses is a legend. That's my dog. 1:07:11.920 --> 1:07:15.200 He was around Black Wall Street days, early Black Wall 1:07:15.240 --> 1:07:18.360 Street days. So I got a joint with mister fave 1:07:18.560 --> 1:07:24.320 Big Rich from the Bay Big Riches. He's man. Yeah, yeah, 1:07:24.360 --> 1:07:26.640 I brought Big Rich out of retirement. He's like man, 1:07:26.640 --> 1:07:29.080 You're gonna bring me out of retirement. So I just, 1:07:29.280 --> 1:07:31.720 uh ship like that. Man. I got a cool little 1:07:31.720 --> 1:07:35.120 album that's out right now, my brother the Big Scott 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:38.000 and Slim Cutters La to La, and then I got 1:07:38.080 --> 1:07:41.560 my little Bartomill get a ball one that's on iTunes, 1:07:42.160 --> 1:07:44.760 and then I'm on shout out to Jay Worthy Rock Marciano. 1:07:44.840 --> 1:07:47.880 I'm on that project. I got two joints on that project. 1:07:48.760 --> 1:07:51.280 Jay Worthy shit though, yeah, hell yeah, he was like 1:07:51.320 --> 1:07:55.240 top three on the hip hop so much amazing. Just 1:07:55.360 --> 1:07:57.400 getting the ship off albums for sure. Yeah, getting the 1:07:57.400 --> 1:07:59.880 ship off. We got a tape coming together. Oh ship, 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:03.200 we got a tape coming together. Uh who else? I 1:08:03.200 --> 1:08:05.880 gotta working on a tape with somebody else. We just 1:08:06.400 --> 1:08:08.080 said it was going to do a tape together. I know, 1:08:08.120 --> 1:08:11.280 me and g Perico got a tape coming out. Yeah 1:08:11.320 --> 1:08:14.680 we got we got some folks songs like that, but 1:08:15.400 --> 1:08:18.400 I'm looking to drop mine probably in the June. 1:08:19.479 --> 1:08:22.800 Did game ever try to like sign you to Black 1:08:22.840 --> 1:08:25.320 Wall Street back in the day, because everybody was on 1:08:25.360 --> 1:08:26.000 Black Wall Street. 1:08:26.880 --> 1:08:30.599 I was kind of like the executive, you know, I 1:08:30.640 --> 1:08:33.519 was kind of like the executive of black was on there. 1:08:33.960 --> 1:08:39.160 Everybody sat out the Jews. Uh Malone was Malone on 1:08:40.280 --> 1:08:42.639 what was his name? Life Life? 1:08:42.720 --> 1:08:48.479 That life was there, Black Wall Street was peaceful Ben Yeah, yeah, it. 1:08:48.479 --> 1:08:53.320 Was Illis Yeah man ship the blast was. He was 1:08:53.360 --> 1:08:56.080 also on Death Roast was on Death ro and Black 1:08:56.120 --> 1:08:59.320 Walls Street. That's so wild, man. I appreciate your time. Man, 1:08:59.479 --> 1:09:01.640 thank you. Bro. I definitely I need to come to 1:09:01.640 --> 1:09:05.639 your spot. You gotta come through. Game three were cracking. 1:09:06.200 --> 1:09:09.720 We got to watch party Denver, Miami. So we got 1:09:09.720 --> 1:09:12.880 a Jimmy Butler gifting sweet for Game three and four. 1:09:12.960 --> 1:09:14.519 Come get some Jimmy Butler swag. 1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:18.600 Really, why not a Jokic gifting sweep because you know 1:09:18.680 --> 1:09:21.439 we're rocking with Jimmy Butler. That's the brand that I'm 1:09:21.439 --> 1:09:24.200 a huge when they pay, when they pay for the studio, 1:09:24.360 --> 1:09:26.360 and you know Nike, if somebody pay for the studio, 1:09:26.400 --> 1:09:28.439 we have a Joker's sweet. 1:09:28.760 --> 1:09:31.120 I hate watch Jokic. You're crazy. 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:34.840 I hate, I hate, I hate watching him. It's over no, no, no, 1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:37.920 Like he's so good. He's so good that like I 1:09:38.040 --> 1:09:41.000 like Phoenix Suns when I'm a I'm a basketball fan, 1:09:41.120 --> 1:09:43.680 so I love I love to watch him. Yeah, but 1:09:43.760 --> 1:09:45.960 it's like it's almost like I'm it's like. 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:48.479 A hate watch. You like hating. Yeah, No, I can't 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:50.080 hate on Jokic. I just can't do it. 1:09:50.080 --> 1:09:52.280 It's like you hate the fact that he's so good 1:09:53.160 --> 1:09:56.479 and he's shaped like me, and he's just like. 1:09:58.040 --> 1:09:58.679 So gifted. 1:09:59.439 --> 1:10:04.400 I'm just like this giant round mound of caucassidy is 1:10:04.640 --> 1:10:07.360 just out here cooking everybody for sure. 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:10.639 Nothing he's got scraped up. He's bleeding out of both 1:10:10.760 --> 1:10:15.639 arms like bruising and ship. What the fuck? Hey, dude, 1:10:15.680 --> 1:10:21.479 he I'm so glad that they are on the national stage. 1:10:21.560 --> 1:10:25.519 Me too, because remember he is the back to back 1:10:25.960 --> 1:10:30.759 the MVP of the league, could easily be three times 1:10:30.760 --> 1:10:34.559 three times m v P. And I'm so glad he's 1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:37.960 on this stage now everybody. Now, everybody can shut up. 1:10:38.040 --> 1:10:40.720 Everyone's talking on Twitter. I'm like, you guys don't even know. 1:10:40.880 --> 1:10:44.640 You never you've never basketball. Yeah, you just see it. 1:10:45.120 --> 1:10:48.120 You see and reels and ship and you see stats 1:10:48.120 --> 1:10:50.200 and think like, oh, it ain't real. No, this dude 1:10:50.320 --> 1:10:53.040 is like he is. He is all time with his ship, 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:55.600 all time. He has transcended with his ship, you know 1:10:55.640 --> 1:10:58.479 what I mean. So it's just shout out to him. Man, 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:00.920 you know, shout out to Jimmy Buck too, because Jimmy 1:11:00.920 --> 1:11:03.960 Butler is another one that I say is underrated. You 1:11:03.960 --> 1:11:09.120 know what I mean. It's like you don't know, you 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:12.439 don't like. It's not like, oh, there's like a style, 1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:15.720 you know what I mean, like Jimmy Butler coming to 1:11:16.160 --> 1:11:17.080 win and get. 1:11:17.000 --> 1:11:19.720 Out the mund I know I keep saying last thing, 1:11:19.720 --> 1:11:21.120 but promise you this is the last thing. 1:11:21.360 --> 1:11:22.120 I'm a Sons fan. 1:11:22.160 --> 1:11:24.280 I just want to get your quick take on the Sons, 1:11:24.360 --> 1:11:27.880 Katie Booker and our Frank Vogel coaching higher. 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:33.120 What do you think? Man? Good? Higher? Bad? Higher? I 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:35.360 like Frank Vogel Man. I liked him. You know. 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:38.519 I'm always stay all over as as assistant. Kept Kevin 1:11:38.560 --> 1:11:40.719 Young on as as assistant. So we have the highest 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:44.160 paid assistant staff. So well it doesn't matter. 1:11:44.200 --> 1:11:45.160 That don't mean shit. 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:48.720 Do you think listen, do you think we have a 1:11:48.800 --> 1:11:50.360 chance to get a ring with those two with those 1:11:50.400 --> 1:11:50.960 two guys? 1:11:51.240 --> 1:11:54.080 No? No, all right, well that's how we're gonna end 1:11:54.120 --> 1:11:56.679 up interview. I mean, you know, I love the Sons. 1:11:56.800 --> 1:11:59.559 I think that they have the talent. They're gonna trade 1:11:59.560 --> 1:12:01.719 Ayton and then Chris Paul is gonna go somewhere else. 1:12:02.040 --> 1:12:05.160 If they change Chris Paul and Ayton. It depends on 1:12:05.200 --> 1:12:08.280 what they get. But I don't think that that team 1:12:08.360 --> 1:12:12.720 right there, that team is Ayton. Is. The thing is 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:16.519 they don't Phoenix, don't play no defense, Frank when you 1:12:16.520 --> 1:12:18.479 think of when you think about yeah, so if they 1:12:18.560 --> 1:12:21.599 start playing some defense, yeah, they may be all right there. 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:24.639 It is all right, well, all right, Baron Davis, get 1:12:24.680 --> 1:12:25.880 the ball there it is. 1:12:25.920 --> 1:12:28.559 Appreciate your brother appreciate it, Yes, sir, I got it. 1:12:29.000 --> 1:12:32.080 He appreciate. 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