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Speaker 2: We got a legends.

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Speaker 3: Into my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last.

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Speaker 1: But to my far left, we got my dog Bishop

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Speaker 1: be hearing out the perles, how you would nasty.

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Speaker 4: Cool and nasty. We love pee Yes, sir, we live

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Speaker 4: chill oud, pay we live.

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Speaker 3: Ticket.

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Speaker 1: I know you you know what I'm saying you shoe

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Speaker 1: a fishingado. Have you ever seen the black forces with

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Speaker 1: the white license before?

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Speaker 4: No, I ain't. I ain't seen that one. I ain't

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Speaker 4: seen that one just yet. I got them sixteen fifteen fifteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I got you, Bro, Okay, say let's yeah, your your

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Speaker 4: Air Force one guy for sure? God sure, air Force one. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's what sup and your style of play. This is

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Speaker 4: very fitting the demon in you, the barking in you,

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Speaker 4: the dog in you. Air Force one white license, she

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Speaker 4: she waters, Bro, she was a air Force one guy.

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Speaker 4: She water ones that came up here. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 4: ankles and stuff, but it is still you can come

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Speaker 4: to Dres or go to Rutger in there. Okay, Rocky

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Speaker 4: about to say this looked like some ship. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: just your head. Go ahead, I ain't gonna go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I see your show out, I see you ready, I'm

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Speaker 4: ready to though, right the referee joint song, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Talk about right my dog young not your team. You

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Speaker 5: got you up, man. I'm chilling Bro and Dres having

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Speaker 5: a good time. We got a legend in the building, man,

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Speaker 5: I'm geeked, bro.

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Speaker 1: Man, legend, legend, legend to my left Man the ticket.

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Speaker 1: You know this is man, one of the best basketball

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Speaker 1: players of all time, fifteen time All Star and was

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Speaker 1: poorly All Star and dres ticket.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you pluting the five twenty Big Doll.

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Speaker 4: Thank y'all for having me, Dugs, thank you being here.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I love y'all ship Man.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Man, we just talk about the feast.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying for me, You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm an OD ticket fan. I know your

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Speaker 1: rookie year. You came out in a concourse. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, So I've been to it the past, Levis,

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Speaker 1: But you done have so many heat shoes. What's one

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Speaker 1: of your favorite signature shoes you ever had?

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Speaker 4: Well, to be honest, man, I had something to do

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Speaker 4: every time you seen my name on the shoe. I

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Speaker 4: had some input in that, and I thought that that

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Speaker 4: changed a lot of the the concept because if you

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Speaker 4: went Nike, your Adidas, they're coming there with a pre

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Speaker 4: concept already that they've having a line of so many

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Speaker 4: other things. And you know I was taught earlier, man,

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Speaker 4: that's something represent representing you. You want to be able

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Speaker 4: comes from you. So yeah, I think probably my obviously

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Speaker 4: when you first get your shoe and then being with

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Speaker 4: a special place just because that's my first take that

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Speaker 4: your shoe, and then to see it perform and then

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Speaker 4: get to Garnet three and have it be like one

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Speaker 4: of their best sellers and kids come, you know, running

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Speaker 4: up on me with you know, just showing their appreciation.

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Speaker 4: I got to tag some of my my my neighborhood

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Speaker 4: on it with OBF on the bottom. I was in

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Speaker 4: young State. It was going ninety seven, nine eight. Was

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Speaker 4: it a lot? You know, it was love. It was going.

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Speaker 4: You know, Jeff didn't think I was gonna make it.

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Speaker 4: Every talking about I was gonna be out the league

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Speaker 4: in two years. They were talking crazy. They were tripping.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what they drinking and taking. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: Flight Posites was was another shoe that I'm sticking out

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Speaker 4: of just of the technology that not Nike goes doing.

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Speaker 4: different comforts and cushions that they can pat and put

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Speaker 4: but Adidas had another level of technology that I can't

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Speaker 4: speak on my first My first thing to shoot with

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Speaker 4: them was through the roof and very comfortable shoe. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: just you know, that made that to me, made a difference.

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Speaker 3: And that's what so far about you.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, we know you were a champion, we know you

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Speaker 1: got crazy on the court, but to have such an

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Speaker 1: impact to the culture, like we were talking before the

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Speaker 1: Jamie Fox episode, you know what I'm saying, man, we

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Speaker 1: had the real crossover.

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Speaker 4: Was trying to take Fancy from Fancy was choosing what

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Speaker 2: He couldn't find a KG jersey, so he had to

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Speaker 2: get the Wally.

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Speaker 4: Shout to Jake Fox. That was a fire cameo. Bro,

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Speaker 4: that was cool. That was cool. That was a cool joy.

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Speaker 4: That was a real cool joy you said.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I had before we even

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Speaker 1: get you. Gotta talk about your interaction, man. I loved

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Speaker 1: the heacnpartments for but tell the.

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Speaker 4: People man, now, when I first came here, I told Joe, Yeah, nigga,

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Speaker 4: I did growl at you. Yeah, you know what it was. Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: We played them in the playoffs and I dunked on

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Speaker 5: ray allity in the preseason. I got a tech and

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Speaker 5: I was barking doing my thing and I had the

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Speaker 5: he followed me through the tunnel, was.

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Speaker 4: Like, don't funk with the basketball guys. You're not like that.

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Speaker 4: Don't do that.

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Speaker 5: And for we played them in the playoffs and like

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Speaker 5: I had a good game game one.

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Speaker 4: He would not.

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Speaker 5: Say, like who I was because I don't know him.

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Speaker 5: Who you talking about? Damn?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: We played up with the guard.

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Speaker 5: He came out, he slapped the floor, got on like

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Speaker 4: Well you scared the traumatized.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is my moment. I I ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna forget this.

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Speaker 4: Cob had the hissing Cob hits at you. I was

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Speaker 4: on my DM next ship. I want the crowd. I

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Speaker 4: want to see where niggas was at. You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying he talking about. I just want to to

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Speaker 4: say my name.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, I just want dollars me, bro,

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Speaker 2: but supposed to be like.

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Speaker 4: You weren't showing fans get money out here. He was

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Speaker 4: talking that ship. Young fella had confidence. I had watched

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Speaker 4: him and wake forwards. You know I had followed you

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Speaker 4: and you got right to it White when you got

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Speaker 4: in the league, you had a lot of confidence in yourself.

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Speaker 4: And when you punched it on Ray. The reason why

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Speaker 4: I was really upset was because anything to the basket

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Speaker 4: went for the blocking. You know, young fella flustered. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't you know, it's basketball. So yeah, I was just

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Speaker 4: trying to smash is Pauls destroy his confidence. You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I was on some like nine well

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Speaker 4: I mean. You know what I'm saying. He throw this

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Speaker 4: I was just standing on him every time I see him.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't shaking his hand, get him like you. I mean.

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Speaker 4: But but the whole time I'm watching how you react

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Speaker 4: that's what I want. I want to his best and

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Speaker 4: I wanted to make him angry and I wanted to

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Speaker 4: play against that. And then later on in his career,

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Speaker 4: man walk boom shop boy. Gee you good boy, I'm

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Speaker 4: good boom And that's the respect of it that was earned.

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Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: My brother was like nah, tickets said, you're good bro.

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Speaker 4: You I like, nah, took care of your little brother.

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Speaker 4: That just because of the respect to have for you.

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Speaker 4: Real shit, I appreciate that, sure, young And I said,

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Speaker 4: what up, it's my dog.

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Speaker 2: I got you real for sure.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Listen, man, you you have so many fire moments. Yo.

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Speaker 4: U lusa's career.

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Speaker 1: But we all from Indianapolis, Indiana, and my high school

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Speaker 1: basketball is.

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Speaker 3: One player that we have a very high regard for.

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Speaker 1: You have a famous slip for it, my man aj

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Speaker 1: Air Gordon dog that clip for him visiting that shot,

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Speaker 1: he said, hell no, trash, It's one of my favorite

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna keep it one hundred. Man. You know

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Speaker 4: I'm a savant and you know I know my ship.

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Speaker 4: So when I get out here, I'm watching. I know players,

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Speaker 4: he Gardon went through a rough little patch when he

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Speaker 4: I think when he got to New Orleans he was

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Speaker 4: him to get back. And what y'all don't know. Before

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Speaker 4: that clip, he had came down on some groovesh you

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Speaker 4: know how he five trail three bows, so we can't

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Speaker 4: he was putting motherfuckers in the mixing. Now. You know,

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Speaker 4: we had a bunch of young guys, Zach Levine, a

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Speaker 4: was just he was dogging on. He was beastem So

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Speaker 4: I was like, hey, man, look, you know, compete, man,

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Speaker 4: don't don't let the moffuorer come down here and just

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Speaker 4: you know, compete. So when he came down, he did

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Speaker 4: some ship and then he spun it. Then he stepped

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Speaker 4: out like they don't know. Nigga, ain't what you do,

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Speaker 4: trans nigga, ain't he ain't nigga, Hey, nigga, get back

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Speaker 4: to what you nigga Like, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: and it wasn't even it was for him. But the

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Speaker 4: move is what made me react. I was like, what, yeah,

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Speaker 4: go back and look at the move though. The move

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about he was trying. There was a transh move,

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Speaker 4: so I was I was basically calling what I was saying, yeah,

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Speaker 4: shouting going man, you know you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: real ship. I'm glad to see him still going you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, helping teams and ship. Yeah, shot

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Speaker 4: to him.

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Speaker 1: And man, listen, so many moments I'm a fan because listen,

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Speaker 1: I look at the Olympics, and every time I think

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, man.

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Speaker 1: And another wonderful moment Olympic You going crazy in the ones,

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 3: He was cleaning boys up.

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Speaker 4: Man, it is what it is now, Jeff. Jeff noticed

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Speaker 4: Uh, it was a billion it was a bullion league.

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Speaker 4: play four court one on ones. Yeah, and we had

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So yeah, it was just different on

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Speaker 4: We weren't supposed to win nothing. That's how he was

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Speaker 4: Why wait, Forest, Bro.

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Speaker 4: World. That's what's up. I Georgia time up there, Bro.

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00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 4: I'm from ACCNT, so you know, uh, you know, I

431
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 4: was a huge Tarhee fan and all that other ship.

432
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 4: But Bro used to used to get your money.

433
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,159
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

434
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,720
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you, what school was you gonna

435
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,640
Speaker 5: go to if you didn't go straight to the league.

436
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 4: Uh, Michigan, Okay, Michigan I went to I went to Michigan.

437
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,439
Speaker 4: Uh two years before so tenth grade. I had a

438
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 4: chance to go up and watch him play Michigan State,

439
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 4: and I got to meet Webb, and I got to

440
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 4: meet j Juwan, I got to meet Jimmy. Everybody jialing everybody,

441
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 4: and they were super cool and not at the time

442
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 4: to where you could take people around. They just took

443
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 4: me and we we kind of disappeared and where it was.

444
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 4: I took a liking to web Web's gang. But then

445
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,439
Speaker 4: when I met Web where Web cuffed me like a

446
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 4: like a like a little brother man, and and and that,

447
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 4: and that stuck with me so much that when I

448
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 4: watched him play, I saw myself and then I just

449
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 4: start piecing off the style. Obviously I wanted to Web

450
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,719
Speaker 4: size or none of that, but the way he played

451
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 4: through and that, and you know how you is when

452
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 4: you're seeing your favorite player, right, So yeah, I want

453
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 4: to follow in those footsteps. But you and Cee was

454
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 4: great on development, and one of the things I wanted

455
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 4: to really do was develop as a player. I didn't

456
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 4: want to, you know, I didn't want you to look

457
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 4: at a nineteen ninety five tape and then look ninety

458
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 4: seven and I'm looking the same. So you A and

459
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 4: c was known for developing one thing. I will say,

460
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 4: they developed big men in a certain way. And if

461
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 4: you saw how my style was, I didn't want to

462
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 4: be your traditional big well, you know, I didn't have

463
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 4: the body mask to go down in and Kevin m

464
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 4: kel will be showing me this move where you had

465
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 4: to have big shoulders to get it up. You know

466
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 4: exactly what I'm talking about, bro. You know you're trying

467
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 4: to figure that out so early on. I struggled with that,

468
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 4: but I figured it out. But I wanted to go

469
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 4: to UNC for the development. I had a cousin. I

470
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 4: got a real cousin in life, Shaman Williams, who actually

471
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 4: start and play. Yeah. Yeah, Shaman's my older cousin. My

472
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 4: real father in life is his uncle. His mother is

473
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 4: my real aunt. Oh okay, badly know my Popstow. So

474
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 4: you know that whole shit was kind of you know

475
00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 4: what I mean. But when we saw each other, it's

476
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 4: always love. If I see him today, it's always loved,

477
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 4: same old, same old. But yeah, those two those those

478
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 4: two two schools really made an impact on them. You'd

479
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 4: have been ra Michigan now. I remember. I remember I

480
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 4: wanted to go to Georgia Tech with Steph Man and

481
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 4: Bobby Krimins told me they had a kid by the

482
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 4: name of Eddie Elisma and they didn't need no more

483
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 4: big about listen. For about ten years I was looking

484
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 4: for Eddie Elisha. I just wanted him to be on

485
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 4: somebody's team. I just wanted to show Bobby, Bobby Krimins,

486
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 4: what what what's the difference? You know what I'm saying.

487
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, but where you get that mindset from? Because I

488
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 5: follow your story, Brahma, huge fan. I remember you doing

489
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 5: your draft workouts and you're talking about pat Riley.

490
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, yeah, the pat Riley Great. Yeah. My mama,

491
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 4: my mom. Man, my mom's a kind of a shot

492
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 4: to my mom Sheryl, you know, but yeah, my mom's

493
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 4: a she's a hard worker. Man. My mom used to

494
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 4: work the graveyard ships. You know, the graveyard ships are

495
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 4: on twelve to twelve six, you know what I'm saying. So,

496
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 4: so yeah, my mom worked at so you know, I

497
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 4: grew up very responsible, being able to cook early, being

498
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 4: able to clean the house early. I grew up in

499
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 4: the South, so I was outside. I'm from slap box.

500
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 4: I'm from all the guys fighting. I'm from I'm from

501
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 4: all that wrestling for the belt, getting beat for the belt,

502
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 4: going home, cutting out carpet, making a new belt, coming

503
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 4: outside with the you know, I'm from that real nigga

504
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 4: on the bike. I'm in neighborhoods my neighborhood fighting your neighborhood.

505
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 4: I'm from all that, you know what I'm saying. So

506
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 4: outside outside and I'm from the black Top. I'm I'm

507
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 4: I'm out here. I'm gonna go to every park and

508
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 4: see who out here and try to kill it. And

509
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 4: you start to get a rep you know what I'm saying,

510
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 4: that's big fella. You know that's uh yeah, they them,

511
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 4: Mallen them, the Marten Boys. You know what I'm saying,

512
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 4: Shit like this, But yeah, man, my mom gave me

513
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 4: this kind of a yeah, no, no, no nonsense kind

514
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 4: of attitude that the goett ship and why not you?

515
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 4: My mom used to play all those little riddles with me.

516
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: She said, Kevin, you know, if you ever come into

517
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 4: your room and look for the leader, said, why what

518
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: you talking about? Well, if you can't find a leader

519
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 4: in the room, guess who's the leader? She say, She

520
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 4: lived this a little shit like that, and then dog,

521
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 4: I started taking shit personal. You know what I'm saying,

522
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: light skinned niggas and dollars staying. You know what I'm saying.

523
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 4: So I'm super competitive. So a lot of times though,

524
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 4: when when I would take things personal, I would put

525
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 4: it in the competitive form because I didn't want to

526
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 4: be rowdy. Uh you know, we got ass whoop in

527
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 4: my house, so I'm from I got manners, open doors

528
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: for women. I watched dishes, I know how to clean

529
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,239
Speaker 4: the whole house up, you know what I'm saying. So

530
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 4: putting all those into play couldn't get in trouble in

531
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 4: school or you got killed, you know what I'm saying.

532
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 4: So I had to learn and control those emotions and

533
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 4: then challenge towards something. So when basketball started coming into

534
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 4: my life, I started really putting a lot of time

535
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 4: in it, and then I found this untapped energy, if

536
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 4: you will. Then when it came to competitiveness, when I

537
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: heard I heard sea Biscuit had a complex that the

538
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: writer he would kind of easing back to let the

539
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 4: other horse go back, and when the horse got in

540
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 4: front of him the horse, Sea Biscuit would go ape

541
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 4: shit and just smoke the hor When I heard that analogy,

542
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 4: I connected with that, like to play somebody better than

543
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 4: you actually gets you to play better, and it makes

544
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 4: you a more tentative, more locked you ever hear about

545
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: when you take a sense, the other sense gets heightened.

546
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: I swear when I would play people that were bigger

547
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 4: than me, or better than me, or I consider better

548
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 4: than me. It activated that. And then I got into

549
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: the league and the league was a bully league, and yeah, man,

550
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 4: coming from Chicago, everybody pulling up on you wanting the

551
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: hoop and the crate in the alley and this gym

552
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: and on this whatever. So you instill that in it

553
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 4: put me in the league, and then say that I

554
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 4: can't do something. So I was like, man, I'm going

555
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: to prove all y'all wrong, y'all for the you know

556
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I told everybody the draft when she

557
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: and Stack was cracking jokes on me, man in front

558
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 4: of about like fifty niggas, They're like, nigga, should take

559
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 4: your ass to college. Man, I say, nigga, I'm finna

560
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 4: be better than all y'all niggas. Niggas live. I'm the

561
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 4: only one that left me and Scotty Thurman. Scotty Thurton,

562
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 4: I don't know if you notice, kid from Arkansas used

563
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: to shoot the long ball. He was like, hey, they

564
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 4: fucking with your cat there. Now, young fall he was

565
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: country man. They now young felt. But yeah, I've always

566
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 4: been super competitive and my mindset. Man, it's gotta be

567
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: always saying one of the ones is me or you.

568
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: It's got to be you can't be me, you know

569
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

570
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard you did that to Scottie Pipping too.

571
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got two. I was young though, I was

572
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 4: junking wild. Oh. When I got Chicago, I moved in

573
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: a certain certain area off the west side called k Town. Yeah.

574
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 4: K Town got all these different streets in these different

575
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: areas and uh yeah, they wrapped different places. You know

576
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Gd's over here, Vice Stoy's over here, Uh,

577
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: Kobra's over here, and you got to know how to

578
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: Latin King's over here. You gotta know how to go

579
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: through that, right. And then once I figured that out, Bro,

580
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: you you know you're moving, and you know a lot

581
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 4: of the guys you move with you moved. How you moving? Yeah? Yeah, man,

582
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: Scotti Pippy got some ship and I don't know what

583
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 4: he thought, yeah, but yeah, I quick, quickly, you know,

584
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 4: got him to understand where he was. But that wasn't

585
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 4: a good moment for me because I felt like, you know,

586
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 4: when you come into an NBA said, and you don't

587
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 4: want to be rowdy. Grover, let us come in there,

588
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 4: and who as soon as we got into that, Grover

589
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: tried to kick us out. Guys, you want to kicked

590
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 4: out into a whole nother thing. I knew the guys

591
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: Carl Harris is and if Carl Harris went in there,

592
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: who's the street guy from the South Side. If Carl

593
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 4: Harris won in there would have been all bad. But

594
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 4: I'm glad he was in there. And then it's even

595
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 4: more crazy to that Jeff Isaiah Thomas in the corner

596
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: watching all this, And that's that's where I got the

597
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 4: jewels from. I seen Zeke z He pulled me to

598
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 4: the U because I ain't no. Zeke's from the West Side,

599
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 4: like he was. You know what I'm saying, He's super

600
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, He's man, Zeke super tact

601
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 4: plugged into the West Side. So the shit there talk

602
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 4: to him. I talked to him about three hours, and

603
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: after that three hours, I knew exactly what I was doing.

604
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 4: Straight up. You got a story like that with ja

605
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: A right too, right when y'all play the bulls and

606
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: he was talking to Jordan and Joe Jay all had

607
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 4: to tell you that Hey, Okay, chill out, bro, you

608
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: fit the turny up man, Jeff. You know this, man,

609
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: when you play a guy dog or you play somebody

610
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: that you you look up to and you're not watching

611
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 4: enough film to know that this guy is better than you,

612
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 4: but you still have confidence in yourself. It was kind

613
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: of like that Mike them, what this bullying niggas man

614
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: pressing up ninety four feet zig zaggy? They getting it,

615
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: then they hand checking it. Refs ain't calling it so

616
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 4: on a young guy like t here grad Te Hill,

617
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 4: Jeff really got to know how to handle it because

618
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 4: you're really dealing with forcing right right right. If the

619
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: ref ain't calling it, Bro, you gotta you gotta deal

620
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: with yourself. I mean that's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy.

621
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 4: You say that because that's what the bulls was doing. Nothing.

622
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: So we we learned that and then start to implement

623
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: on the young guys. No ship, real ship, But yeah,

624
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 4: that was that was the same way. But just like

625
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: how you you learn that makes you better that that

626
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: that that kind of headache that you got to deal

627
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: with you like holy ship. The first time I'm happy

628
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: you in you and you in big eyes right second

629
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 4: time you go ship third time. Now you ain't tripping,

630
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's for sure, You're

631
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 4: just But yeah, me and Jyard was in there and

632
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: and and Mike then was just on some bully ship

633
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: and I was having a decent ass game. I'm just

634
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: seeing my friend. He had just gotten too a car accident.

635
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: I didn't really get much sleep. We was on the

636
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: back to back. When I landed, I went straight to

637
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: the hospital. I sat there all night winning and uh man,

638
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: it was just hard to see Feels in there with

639
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: the dame with the halo on his neck. Yeah, and

640
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 4: I was like, damn. And then I was really effective

641
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: and I came back to the hotel. I had to

642
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: go right to the to the the ring and ship,

643
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: you know, first bus and all that shit. So I

644
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: was over there super early, so I was super inspired,

645
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: but I was running off fumes. I didn't have no

646
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: sleep that night. Had the whole west side on the

647
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: whole left side of that motherfucker. So I felt, yeah,

648
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: I was in I had a great night, but yeah,

649
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: just just just man. As soon as I started feeling good, man,

650
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: I fucked that up. I fucked that up. It's a

651
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 4: lot of ship. I didn't fuck up. I fucked that

652
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: up because we had a chance to win that game,

653
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: and I woke the beasts up. Dog and I ain't

654
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: think that ship was real. So you see it like,

655
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: oh shit, really really really really scared shit and he

656
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: went look no bullshit, came down simple to all three

657
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: five and once shot two free through like it was

658
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: looked up. The nigga had like forty and life like

659
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: twelve minutes. I was like, damn we sitting on the bench,

660
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: was like, dare we nineteen? Then I looked at you

661
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 4: know how you look at everybody, and everybody I told

662
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: that nigga to shut up, Joe. That's how Jay y'all,

663
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: y'all was like my dog to you know, it's okay,

664
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: we're gonna get through it. At the end the bench,

665
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: he was taking shoes off. I was like, my fuck man,

666
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: it's all shut your heads, real mess. I see. I

667
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: never shaid ship to join after that dog, real ship.

668
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 4: I ain't say nothing. I remember that story, black cat,

669
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: you're good, You're good, Okay, cool ball here and keep

670
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: it moving straight up.

671
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: Hey, you know it's funny.

672
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

673
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: Jeff always spoke very very very highly of that Celtics

674
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: backcourt defense and you just talking about every Bradley reaching

675
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: about how you know what I'm saying, he had to

676
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: go down to the g le d to wake up.

677
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: I love the fact that we're giving people honor like

678
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: that because I feel like guys like Drew Holiday now

679
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: that they getting their praise that they deserve. You talk

680
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: about the real defense, like you said, would be a

681
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: nightmare matchup for you were dough and then you talk

682
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: about a b It was just interesting to hear you

683
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: say that his hot praise for him?

684
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: Nah man them too.

685
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: They had ticket that got up on screens and then.

686
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: They had perk. He didn't get all the way up.

687
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: He was physical.

688
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: You had them two dudes, bro, they are ninety four

689
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 5: feet you and then Aby Bradley took everything personal. I

690
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 5: remember one game we played him. It was my second year.

691
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: Rondo was out and he started at point guard. I

692
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: think it's his first start, and I kind of embarrassed

693
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: him a little bit. I went by dunk dunk and

694
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 5: stole the ball from a bunch of times. And the

695
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 5: next time he played me, he was like, yeah, what's up?

696
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: And I was like what.

697
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: I was like, he's sad, you know all kill him, bro,

698
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: he was guarding me for turning.

699
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: I pass the Kurt messing with him real now, for real,

700
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 5: he was serious.

701
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: Aby Bradley's feet it was probably similar to like ushers

702
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: and Michael Jackson's, like he had the quickest feet. He

703
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: was normally when you get hit, if you and Jeff

704
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: t right now was in the pick and roll, and

705
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: Broke came up and said, a pick on you. If

706
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: he hit any part of your of your leg, You're

707
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: you're gonna turn. You're just gonna turn out. That's just

708
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: what it is. Aby Bradley was the only guy that

709
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: I knew that got his shoulder right over yours, got

710
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: his feet over there, he would and he would like

711
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: them chili sauce. Bro, he got highlights on your sue

712
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: doing that. Listen, listen, hell it did he It wasn't

713
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: he poking. And you know when the guard bringing it up,

714
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: you know, motherfucker bringing up he ain't really thinking about

715
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 4: the poking all that, because you're calling the plate trying

716
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: to see where that motherfucker's in your in your cavity.

717
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: You gotta you got to either chicken wing or man. Imagine.

718
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: So when you when I heard you say that. When

719
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: I saw that clip, I was like, yeah, that's right

720
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: on to what they was on. They was on harassment

721
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: and really trying to break the point guard down, like man,

722
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: run him in the ground. So they got to bring

723
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: the backup and then we're gonna run him in the ground.

724
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: And that was our whole Our whole plan was to

725
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: outwork you as a team. That was a physician position.

726
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 5: I was tripling above playing one on him and it's

727
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 5: a time out, you know, TV Gord and getting so.

728
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 4: Loud y'all stop. He's still right there in your face.

729
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to beaty looking you know here.

730
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: The whistle them to just them too, like ya ya go.

731
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: They playing one.

732
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: Over here, ship like I can't keep sucking saying nothing

733
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: else to him now.

734
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: He was serious, Who you.

735
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: Lik in the league against guards? Right now?

736
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 5: Man?

737
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: You got a favorite? You got favorite guards? You like?

738
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: Favorite point guard probably is uh Jaylen Bronson right now,

739
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 5: big body code.

740
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Don't come up when he's a little kid, bro his development.

741
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and to see him get to who he was

742
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: like being at Villanova, I never thought he would be

743
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 5: this player.

744
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: And then to see where he is now, knowing his dad,

745
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: it's like.

746
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: Damn when I saw it, when I saw a couple

747
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: of times in Dallas, he would take over games and

748
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 4: then kind of come off it, you know, because you

749
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: couldn't he wouldn't go fourth throttle. But you saw the glimpses. Yeah,

750
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: because for a long time they was trying to get

751
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: rid of the mid range, women, the mid range, and

752
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 4: just diagnostics at least in data. That's not a good one.

753
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: Shoot at the end of day. Make it that, you know.

754
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: And then I think Houston fucked that whole thing up

755
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: when they came Dan Moorey came in to really run. Yeah. Yeah,

756
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: so I say that. I say that to set up that.

757
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: I felt like, man, he you start to see it

758
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 4: with the mid ranger and then he just accepted that, Yeah,

759
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go mid range. I don't want to

760
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: if I got to stand still three cool And then

761
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 4: to put all that together, bro, you know, the most

762
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: I wanna say disrespected, but it's probably the most underrated

763
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 4: thing in our league. Development Nah for sure. Man, don't

764
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: nobody developing young boys no more? Man? And if so,

765
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: you got one trainer training a tall guy, training a center,

766
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: a forward and a guard the same fucking way, Bro.

767
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: That's because they eliminated all the old hiss Bro.

768
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: The moves looked the same. Bro. Like, right now, I

769
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 4: already know a young boy gonna get me an in

770
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 4: and out and he's gonna cross it. If he crossed,

771
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 4: he probably gonna step back left because you're already over.

772
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 4: If he ain't doing that, he's doing the heads and

773
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 4: all this. It's like I'm watching the mood patterns be

774
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: so similar that I don't see nothing coming out of that.

775
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: I don't see nothing. So then I jumped in and

776
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, I'm gonna go see who Check

777
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: invited me to come see and work out. One day.

778
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: I went to go see check workout. I see his

779
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: whole workout where he was working out on. Tatum was

780
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: working on Kawhi was working on for brunts and work

781
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 4: and I was just like, nah, man, you gotta you

782
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: gotta customize on package. You got a customize on bag.

783
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's too it's man, the

784
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: bag looks similar throughout all of it, you know what

785
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

786
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: And that's real.

787
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: Like you said, you can look at people with that game,

788
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I know who he trying to win

789
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: the off season.

790
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 4: I hate to say that, even though I don't know

791
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: the trainer. Yeah, I'll see it look similar, you know

792
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. And then that

793
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: would bring you back to oh yeah, yeah, yeah they

794
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 4: do got the same one. Oh yeah they do. Uh

795
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 4: that type of thing.

796
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: So you talk about the mid range, you talk about

797
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: the guards in the league, you talk about SGA going

798
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: crazy with the vision, and then you gotta talk about

799
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: looks Man, the house you built, the young guy in

800
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: there reviving it.

801
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: Ae Man, nasty?

802
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: How was that man for you to be the best

803
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: player at Tiple with history, to see the researchers with

804
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: young AE with a similar mindset.

805
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: With it like a work like? How was that to

806
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: like enjoy?

807
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: I love ants gold Man, like his I like his

808
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: yesterdyear demeanor. Man, you know, I thought, I don't mind

809
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: order all the being cool because you know, like you said,

810
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: you know, you know, Gordon, you got guys from Thattown

811
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 4: that you fuck. We're right, y'all see each other's cool, right, Bro,

812
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: It ain't cool to the point where going gonna let

813
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: you scoring him now, or you're gonna let That's what

814
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying the ship started to look buddy buddy at

815
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: one point. That's that's why it just didn't look like

816
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: it was competitive well what I was used to seeing. So,

817
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: you know what, I had to get off that this

818
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 4: is a new generation and this is what the game

819
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 4: looks like now. So I start to go in that direction.

820
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 4: But man, I gotta I gotta say, bro, like, yeah,

821
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: I enjoy competitiveness. I ain't enjoying guys or you know yeah,

822
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 4: And I think that's a big part of it. Gaming

823
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: ship is another big part of it. You know, I

824
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: have never pulled up to a park and never seen

825
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: anybody you pull up to the parking those too. You

826
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying straight push your ass and asking

827
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: what I'll bust your ass for the first stretch I

828
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: was trying. I'm the first stretch for I don't give

829
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 4: a fuck what you did that? Fred I got you

830
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: you coming in the post, my nigga, slow down. I

831
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: can't even like right and grabow having nothing. I'm having

832
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: them Isaac Lander didn't have no joke. I'm having a

833
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 4: grandma like who bust? Who asks nigga? What we've gotta? Women?

834
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: Drais got a women drais, Hey, they got the women here, dog,

835
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: we go right to you know what I'm saying, right

836
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: show down dog first like nothing, I don't I don't

837
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: know you, ain't I ain't know you.

838
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 6: Nigga, don't get to know you. Right, funk out of here.

839
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 6: That's who asks nigga right turns my whole you asked

840
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 6: you got all the shows? Bro, I bust your knees

841
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 6: right here there. That is the specialized, the whole specials

842
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 6: Like here you still, I'm gonna tell you what I do.

843
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 6: I don't hoop, but I work out money through Friday.

844
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: Just for if I got a little more fucker mouthing off,

845
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: I could go up here. I can you know what

846
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I keep the dusk off just enough, but

847
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: I'll be honest. I want to ashoot us to see

848
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 4: if you're having the same issue. Bro. I don't really

849
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: go and hoop and turn it up turn it up,

850
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: because I already know that's gonna send me right. You

851
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: don't have no place to put the hope many No,

852
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: that's how I am. Like, how do you how do

853
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 4: you turn off? To have you turned it off? Yeah?

854
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: I turned it off on a gym back in Indy

855
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: and we got a men's league.

856
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: But I never play serious.

857
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: Like you got playing fucking around.

858
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 5: I just be trying to get stay in shape. And

859
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 5: then like I played in the Big Three the other

860
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 5: day and that moment happened that dude scored him. I

861
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 5: was just chilling. He scored on me a couple of times.

862
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: He's having a good day, and all of a sudden

863
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: it flipped. I throwing the ball at him, and I

864
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: was like, saving me. I'm a podcast. Now what am

865
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: I doing?

866
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: I gotta old nigga, you're a demon. Remember how you

867
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 4: got the podcast, I'm saying, And embrace that bro, real ship,

868
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: real ship. They be trying him at the gym. Hey listen,

869
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: that's why you're going there. You're supposed to bust that

870
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: much whoever the fuck that is. You bust his ass

871
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 4: and kill his confidence right there. See, when we play,

872
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: I won't ever have this problem out The small fucker

873
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: want nobody. And when I see him, he gonna come with,

874
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 4: oh man, I take it or it's gonna be regardless. Okay, cool,

875
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: But it's different after you play a nigga and then

876
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 4: you go in the mirror look at yourself, like damn

877
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: I couldn't get a bucket on that motherfucker. And you're

878
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 4: gonna look at them shoes like, man, these shoes are

879
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: gonna start. And that's what I That's what I was

880
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: going for. I'm here to destroy your inner confidence. But

881
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: you ever say no ship like that? You real rod up?

882
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: See how you looking at now? You down what you said?

883
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: You got doubting? I'm ready, don't look ready, I'm ready

884
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: on your voice is ready? What that means, I'm gonna

885
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: kill you with them pulling? What that means? You got

886
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: a referee? Shoot, get the quart ups, set the quarter up?

887
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 4: What we doing, tennessee sept the court up? Hennessy all,

888
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 4: we got right do a shot before we got them

889
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 4: played too, nigga. Oh, that's that's I said, before we play.

890
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 4: I'm ready right now. I'm ready right now too, nigga,

891
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: he said, Now.

892
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here.

893
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 4: Man.

894
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: I would to talk about one of the best foint

895
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: guards that does not get enough credit. And I think

896
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: in this era he would have got as much love

897
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: as he should deserve. Steph Mall Barry Man. I feel

898
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: like he was in this era, dog, we would give

899
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: him way more praise, like he's one of the ones

900
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: from me always has been. But I fight in this

901
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: league now, the way they let the guards go crazy

902
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: they do. Man, he would go so crazy right now,

903
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: y'all had one of the best one to tattles we

904
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: ever seen.

905
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: Man.

906
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, playing with Steph was dope. Man. Steph was a

907
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: real friend too, yeah real Yeah. Yeah. I was friend

908
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: with his brothers, you know. Shout to Dawn, Eric, Zach,

909
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 4: all those guys, uh, Sebastian Fox, five thirty, all those guys. Yeah.

910
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 4: I spen Corney Island earlier at seventeen team. Yeah. Uh

911
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: so when we got together in Minnesota, it felt like

912
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: this is what we wanted to do, and uh it

913
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 4: made the game easy. You know, you're not playing with

914
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: the guy that you fuck with, you know what I'm saying.

915
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: You know your speed? And then Steph won them. He

916
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: was an IQ guy. You know, I had. I had

917
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: really good hands and he used to always be like, care,

918
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: you better have your hands ready. You know what I'm saying,

919
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: Just knowing that he was on orthodox with his passes

920
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: and his timing. But bro Bro trained differently, you know

921
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He saw the world and the game differently,

922
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 4: and when he played. I thought he did a great

923
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 4: job of show showcasing that. You know, Steph. Steph had

924
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 4: pieces from all the guards that we loved, the Rod Stricklands,

925
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: the Kenny Anderson's, the Pearl Washington's right, he had all

926
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: those pieces when you look at all guard played right,

927
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: But then think about team intelligence. Yeah, a lot people

928
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: don't tap in intelligence. A lot of people don't understand timing,

929
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: what plays to call, what his whole variety of who

930
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: here playing with and what what's the spread she for them? Like,

931
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: you know, you could probably tap into this a little bit.

932
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: But when guards, when you go through the guard play

933
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: and you analyze what it takes to be a polished

934
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 4: guard and not just polished on on the on the

935
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 4: black top, but I'm talking about polished guard in the

936
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: league and lead the team. Steph was one of those

937
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. He looked up to Ai him.

938
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: Ai had a bunch of you know, back and forth.

939
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: I think Steve Fanzy jumped in there later on. So

940
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: I should love to watch that. But Steph grew to

941
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: on his own. I think once we got to Minnesota.

942
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 4: You know, I think that you know, within himself, if

943
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: you know anything about Steph has a really big personality,

944
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: super New York, super CI. You know, he Coney Island,

945
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: Brooklyn until he died. So when he came up and

946
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 4: was on something like, yeah, I want to I'm finna

947
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: go back there. I'm finna go back home. I'm finna,

948
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 4: I'm finna go back home and try to do it ill.

949
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 4: I was mad because I was being selfish and wanting

950
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 4: us to go and rock and see what we can be.

951
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: But then when I thought about it, I was like,

952
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: I can't even be mad because you only get one

953
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: chance at this ship and for you to be able

954
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: to go to a franchise and you beat ahead of

955
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: it and you run it and get the have say

956
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: and put the pieces in there that you won't Ah, bro,

957
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 4: I can't even be mad at you. Then he was

958
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 4: talking like he had some vision and where he wanted

959
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: to go, and we ended up sending him to Jersey,

960
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 4: which was you know, not New York, but it was Jersey,

961
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 4: and for him to go back there, he looked happier.

962
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: He was around his family and he was in his setting.

963
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 4: And then I kind of came off of like, Okay,

964
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 4: he doing him, and then I didn't take it so personal,

965
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It was just when he

966
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: was on something like, oh I want to be in Minnesota, like, nah, nigga,

967
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 4: you want to go do your own ship, which I

968
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: can respect, and yeah, shout the stuff. Man. It was

969
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: a good time when it was good. Hate then when

970
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 4: you get to tap into that potential to see what

971
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 4: we could have been. But yeah, shout the stuff for

972
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: that man. Underrated twenty eight for sure. Yeah, man, just

973
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: spoken enough.

974
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: Bro.

975
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what too, man? You know the league, man,

976
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 4: what's your story and how you come through and things

977
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: that follow you. Yeah, man, they put all that on

978
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 4: you. You know what I'm saying, if you got in trouble

979
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: abn C or you you know, I say he did

980
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: anything to fuck the game off or whatever, But I

981
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: know his situations in the Knicks and that whole tobacco

982
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: in high that whole played out, and then him having

983
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: to go to China and ship like Steph should have

984
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 4: never had to go to China, you know what I'm saying.

985
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: Stefan Marlborough had to go to China's crazy, but showing

986
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 4: to his true brilliance, Man, he goes over there, he

987
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 4: takes over the fucking league. He becomes what we all

988
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 4: know him to be, the great spirit that he is,

989
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And he went over there

990
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 4: and made the China League popular to where players go

991
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: over there and play. Now, I don't know if they're

992
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: gonna go play after seeing the young boys sleeping in

993
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 4: the fucking lobby.

994
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: That was that crazy.

995
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 4: Listen, we talk about the NBA and these different leagues.

996
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: The league is I say this, it's professional. You never

997
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: have a guy in none of those aspects. And then too,

998
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, one, where's your agent and where's your teammates?

999
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: That's the first thing I thought. If you sleeping in

1000
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 4: the lobby, where the where's your other teammate? You know

1001
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: what I'm saying? And who's not speaking of you? Whole

1002
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 4: another conversation, I say, But yeah, shout shout to shout

1003
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: to Steph doing that. Man, No, no, no, I say, the

1004
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: young fella doing that. But I was just going back

1005
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: to Steph and being able to making China popular and

1006
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 4: all that ship. But yeah, Steph was one of them.

1007
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: Question Marshall, what what could have been? You know what

1008
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1009
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, man, last fan question

1010
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: for me man, one of my favorite pictures. One of

1011
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: the favorite passes oops of all time at an All

1012
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: Star joint. You A cole Man, one of my favorite

1013
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: things I've seen on the basketball court.

1014
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: Man.

1015
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout to Bean. Yeah. When I when we when

1016
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: we was, when we was coming up, when I first

1017
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 4: met that crazy motherfucker being was super intense, super intense

1018
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 4: as a young kid. And then when we got to

1019
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 4: the All Star Game. It was in New York and

1020
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: they caught the East Oup first and We're sitting in

1021
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: the back and I'm boo, I am so, I am own,

1022
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: I'm ready to get out here. Man, fuck them, you know,

1023
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: like it was just I was ready, and it was

1024
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 4: the first time I saw him like nervous, and nobody

1025
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: else was paying attention to shit. You know, we the

1026
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: youngest here. It's it's a it's a it's a it's

1027
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: actually a clip. They don't play the whole clip, but

1028
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: they play a piece of like, yeah, motherfucker, were at

1029
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 4: the Old Star Game. Nigga were at the Old Star Game.

1030
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: Nigga not dappy, you see. And I'm in the back

1031
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: like this a nigga, you ready, Nigga, We ain here.

1032
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: We ain't here now now death and he like, yeah, yeah,

1033
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 4: we at the hoosh, like, nigga, get your gas up. Hey, nigga,

1034
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: we going at this nigga because they was already puffing

1035
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: him and Mike nigga fuck him. We get out here.

1036
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 4: I'm looking for you. Be ready, he said, all right, cool,

1037
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 4: and I'll be Damn. I'm talking about the second player

1038
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: in the game, third play Boo boom. I came out

1039
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: to it on the left side and I looked up.

1040
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: I just put it right in the middle of the

1041
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: realm and where he was coming for that time. That

1042
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: perfectly well, this nigga jumps so motherfucking high. And when

1043
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 4: I talk about that, Vince Carter moment bought cob asses.

1044
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: I watched it from my perspective. I threw it, so

1045
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 4: I watched him just we dunked that motherfuckers already came out.

1046
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I was. I was on some

1047
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: nigga ship. He was on some like let's be professional, man,

1048
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: fuck that man, fuck, let's let's get it. So that

1049
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: energy coming out playing. Yeah, that was a magical game

1050
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 4: because MJ was looking for it too, and he wanted

1051
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 4: all smoke, throwing his hand licking his fingers and ship.

1052
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: It was on him, him, him, the demon came out

1053
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: of He was in massive square, you know he you know,

1054
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 4: he really activate when in there right oh man, it

1055
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: was no bigger stage than center stage at MSG and

1056
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: watching that going back and forth, MJ solidified himself, you

1057
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But Cole establishing himself right there,

1058
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 4: you know as kamement.

1059
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 3: Man, what better way in his ticket?

1060
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 4: Go ahead, go ahead?

1061
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an MVP right there. Yeah, so you want

1062
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 5: the MVP top seventy five. You did them the everything

1063
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 5: you could do in basketball, Bro, to trans like, you know,

1064
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 5: transition to doing podcasts and being more open, like because

1065
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 5: me knowing you when you play, you was the best teammate.

1066
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 5: My brother told me you the ultimate teammate. Everybody in

1067
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 5: Minnesota told me you was the ultimate teammate, the best

1068
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 5: bet you can have. But you never talked about players

1069
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 5: or nobody like that. To see you show love to

1070
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 5: young guys now, it's different, bro, Like most of the

1071
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 5: old heads that we used to say, Like with old

1072
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 5: heads when I used to watch, they would talk crazy

1073
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 5: about the young guys are.

1074
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: They getting this money?

1075
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 4: They don't play?

1076
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 2: And then you come in you like, yeah, I love.

1077
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 4: A yeah to put a lot of light on him. Yeah,

1078
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: well think about this, guys, real shit when you play Man. Man,

1079
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: At least for me, I couldn't playing that gray area. Yeah,

1080
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Even though I mean Chouncey

1081
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: Billups Toronto, lou Shee Wallace, these are my personal friends,

1082
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: and I understood what it was when we all played.

1083
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: So you know, when I played Man, I locked into

1084
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 4: who was rolling with me? And if you notice, I

1085
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 4: never really fragnized with it the other side. I dapt

1086
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: you say, what up? But it was never like a

1087
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, unless I really really never

1088
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: That was probably maybe one or two a handful of

1089
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: guys I count on one hand, right, So when it

1090
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 4: came to make a jump to poadcasting and stuff, I

1091
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: thought those experiences of being able to share some of

1092
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: those stories and you know the fact that I have

1093
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: never sat back and had a real conversation with you

1094
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: before we got in here to let you know my

1095
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: respects towards you, and when I was a fan of

1096
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: yours and your body of work, and the reason why

1097
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 4: I was growling it, I ain't growled at everybody ain't

1098
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: no manin no, ain't no nigga ever gonna come back

1099
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 4: up and like man Kevin and im growded than me.

1100
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 4: I'm only doing that the niggas that I got, you

1101
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying. So I had a certain level

1102
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: of respect for you, so to come on here just

1103
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 4: feel me. You know, I'm saying. Let them know that man,

1104
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 4: not only that fuck with you, but you know your

1105
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: little brother when he came in Brooklyn and cuffed them

1106
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 4: like that was That's what this is. That's what to me,

1107
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 4: that's what the podcast brain is laying. It's for It's

1108
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: for me to be able to I took all this

1109
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: experience and let me just throw out these experiences. Hey man,

1110
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: this happened to me over here, This happened, and that's

1111
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: all it is for me to be able to make

1112
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 4: reference to things that I've been through to what these

1113
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 4: young guys are going through, to let them show that

1114
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 4: the parody is very similar. Bro. But you're thinking it's hard,

1115
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: bro shit, y'all ain't practicing, bro. Imagine having a practice.

1116
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, imagine doing two days for thirty days.

1117
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: Y'all ain't so when I share some of this experiences

1118
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: only to bring it back to today's game, because I

1119
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 4: think today's game, the young boys think it a certain way.

1120
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: But man, Bro, but ten years ago it's a whole

1121
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: nother way and a whole nother way of style. So

1122
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 4: taking that greatness too, Bro, remember this about yourself. You know,

1123
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 4: when you went to wait for its, you became great there.

1124
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: You can't to lead. You established a greatness about yourself

1125
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 4: so much that you gotta brand now to where you

1126
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 4: got a podcast. You coming up here speaking on not

1127
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 4: just in the NBA experience, but IQ and articulating for

1128
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 4: your audience. Right, that's a greatness. It was no way

1129
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 4: I think, y'all, I was gonna come in here and

1130
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 4: see you two sixty five or overweight, looking like a bum.

1131
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: Note you know what I'm saying, as Bro, Because you

1132
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: got a greatness about you, so I would expect that

1133
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 4: when you walk off the court to have the same thing. Bro.

1134
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: I tried to dominate every point that I was on

1135
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: the court. Who's to say you put that up when

1136
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 4: you step off of it. You know, I just took

1137
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 4: that same image. I put it into something else. If

1138
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 4: you ask my partners at Contact Cartel, my partners they'll

1139
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 4: tell you how hard I go at that shit when

1140
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: we put out when when we put our shows together,

1141
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 4: I'm up all night. I don't use no cards, just

1142
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: all off my dome. I ripped and this is my

1143
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 4: This is my vision for the world and what I

1144
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 4: want to give them for. When we shoot I shoot

1145
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 4: it with p who's my real best friend in real life,

1146
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: and he's as crazy as they come. So y'all get

1147
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 4: to see the two guys who real best friends talk

1148
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 4: basketball in front of y'all, and so we you know,

1149
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: we clean it up as much as we can, but

1150
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 4: we like to be y'all selves. We dress how we

1151
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: fucking dress were coming here. You know what I'm saying,

1152
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: Like like all this, put a nigga in the box

1153
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 4: and have them talk like this and wind them up

1154
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: and then any when that dude that ship out of here.

1155
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 4: Fuck that niggas ain't doing that ship no more. Fire man, bro,

1156
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: you know what is from us, And that's why I

1157
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: love about y'all show y'all show fire because it's from y'all.

1158
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I love how you came

1159
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: on here talking your ship. You know what I'm saying.

1160
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 4: I keep going, nah, thank you, Bro, I didn't want

1161
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 4: It's all good, Lord, And then you're gonna be careful

1162
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: on how you got up. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Man,

1163
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: I ain't no bus driving my nigga. I'n some real

1164
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 4: ship for real. I wore twenty one because of you all.

1165
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: This real ship, Bro, that'st respect, that's respects. That's before

1166
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 4: you even probably start watching our probab when we first

1167
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: start talking. And they used to jone on me for

1168
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 4: being like the first five team power four And that's

1169
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: my favorite power for it, bros. The first face of

1170
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 4: what you saying, first face up four bro at five

1171
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 4: then bro like that. I called it the praying Manton Yeah,

1172
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: and I was built like this. So you've been this

1173
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 4: whole just side, your whole body, your whole life. Shout

1174
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: out to my grandma's side. No, you got sixteen and

1175
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: ten K sixteen ten? What's that mean? That was my

1176
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 4: status whole word sure in Indianapolis And I played with

1177
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: George too. Yeah, yeah, Well what the fuck is George

1178
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: Hill at these days?

1179
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: Antonio? You're on the far on.

1180
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: I saw that nigga got John thought he was that's George.

1181
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: That the Dreads, George Hill like skin, George Hell Yeah, yeah,

1182
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 4: my bad bad he ain't got no George Hill Arizona,

1183
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 4: George George here Yeah, George bad mother. Fuck George Hill,

1184
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: bad motherfuck too by Yeah talk ship Yeah, a little

1185
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 4: light skinned ass nigga Yeah, go fuck with g oh people. Man,

1186
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 4: we appreciate you for coming on though.

1187
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: Man, this is you know what I'm saying, one time

1188
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: for the one time.

1189
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 4: That's what's up man, The.

1190
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: Ticket, anything, it's possible, It's possible, all right, man, this

1191
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: is a blessing.

1192
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: Man.

1193
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 3: We had the legend blessings with his presence.

1194
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: Man, my man's our concert going crazy, human pee, keep

1195
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: it entertained and keep it authentic, you know what it is.

1196
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Club five twenty Hennessy were about to go to dres

1197
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: and had a real fun. We appreciate you rocking with us,

1198
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: Hennessey Arid. It's been a hell of a time. We're

1199
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: gonna catch you on the next time.

1200
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 4: Well, y'all Yeah, five twenty