1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Dad made me see a naturopathic doctor and my symptoms 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: were relieved within the first three months. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Doctor Nigma is a naturopathic doctor and has been the 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: go to skin expert for Hollywood celebrities. Your patients said 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: that they looked twenty years younger, ten years younger. What 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: is the link between gut health and premature agents? 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: And actually, naturopathic medicine is very science face, even to 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: the point of looking at the body at the cellular level. 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: I love that you talk about all these different faces. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: You have sugar face, fine face, dairy face, and gluten face. 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Tell me what a sugar face looks like. You're a 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: very good representation of what you do because your skin 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: is phenomenal. Is botox really for prevention? 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: So I'm going to say yes and no, and I'll 15 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: tell you. I'll tell you why. 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: I'm RADI da Vlukiah And on my podcast A Really 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: Good Cry, we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: a space for raw, unfiltered conversations that celebrate vulnerability and 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: allow you to tune in to learn, connect and find 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: comfort together. Doctor Nigma, my dear and thank you so 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: much for being on this podcast. I'm so excited to 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: have you here. And just for anybody who doesn't know, 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: doctor Nigma is one of my good good friends, but 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: also a world renowned nationropathic doctor and the best skincare 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: expert that I have ever met from Beverly Hills. And 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: I feel like you've treated so many people throughout your 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: years of experience, and so we're going to get into 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: the real nitty gritty of skincare because I feel like 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: there's so much out there and it's so confusing. So 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: I feel like everyone needs an expert in their life 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: like you. I message you all the time. I message 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: you all the time. I'm like, what about this? Have 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: you heard about this? 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: I know, I love it. 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: It's the best. I have you on speed Doll, and 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: everybody needs a you on speed Doll and if they can't, 37 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: they can listen to this podcast exactly. Okay, So first 38 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: of all, tell me how you got into the work 39 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: that you do and what took you to naturopathy. 40 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, at a very young age, I was always 41 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: the care taker of the family. Like anybody had an ailment, 42 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: I would be like trying to fix them and get 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: them healthier. 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: And so I think it was in me at a 45 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: very young age. 46 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: And then my aunt was a well known breast surgeon, 47 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: so I really. 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: Looked up to her. 49 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: She was helping a lot of women with breast cancer, 50 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: and so I thought, I want to be a doctor. 51 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: What kind of doctor do I want to be? And 52 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't until I had my own health issues, like 53 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: I had a lot of digestive issues like we all do, 54 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, growing up, I was put on tons of 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: antibiotics and you know, for my asthma, for my digestion issues, 56 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: for you know, all sorts, and so that in the 57 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: end had a big toll on my gut. So I 58 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: went to see a naturopathic doctor because my father he's 59 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: like four one. 60 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: One, anything that's wrong, he will find the solution. 61 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: And so Dad made me see a naturopathic doctor and 62 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: I literally my symptoms were relieved within the first three months, 63 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: and I thought, this is a kind of doctor I 64 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: want to be. So I knew in my teens, you know, 65 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: quite early on that Okay, I'm going into naturopathic medicine. 66 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: Nobody knows what it is, but I'm going to be 67 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: the one to bring this message out. And so that 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: was my goal, is to help other people, And. 69 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: What's one of the key things that you found after 70 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: being a naturopathic doctor for this long what have you 71 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: found differentiates naturopathy from conventional medicine, Because I'm sure you've 72 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: had people that have come to you that have tried 73 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: many things conventionally, but then they come to you and 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: you're able to heal them. So what would you say 75 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: of the differentiated factor is between the between the two. 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: It's an interesting question because it brings a lot of 77 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: people when they hear naturopathic medicine, they think, Okay, it's 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: alternative or it's like, you know, it's not really science based, 79 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: And actually naturopathic medicine is very science based, even to 80 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: the point of looking at the body at this cellular level. 81 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: So we're less about symptom drug and more about Okay, 82 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: let's get into Roddy's gut and Roddy's cellular activity. See 83 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: how are you metabolizing, how are your toilet habits, your 84 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: cell you know, your mitochondrial function by some of definitely 85 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: your symptoms, but we use different functional tests to assess that, 86 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: so we go above and beyond the conventional model. We 87 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: do do conventional lab tests just like medical doctors do, 88 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: but we analyze them a lot differently, So we look 89 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: at low normal ranges, high normal ranges, and also we 90 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: also have to realize that those reference ranges were created 91 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: for athletic men, they weren't really made for women. So 92 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: it's about taking all of those considerations and so really 93 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: looking at the root, cause that's. 94 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: So important, you know. I have friends and even team 95 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: members have told me that they have gone to a 96 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: doctor and all the results come back within normal range 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: and they're like, but I don't feel well. And they're like, yeah, 98 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: but your numbers are fine. You're okay, your numbers are great, 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: but they know they just do not feel good. And 100 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: so at some point there's this barrier when you go 101 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: to a medical doctor where if you fall within these ranges, 102 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: and if you fit this criteria or you don't fit 103 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: this criteria, we can't send you for a scan, we 104 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: can't give you medication for it, We're not going to 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: do any further assessment. And that's so difficult and jarring, 106 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 2: mainly for women. I find that's more so the case 107 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: for women, especially when it comes to hormones, anything where 108 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: it doesn't fit within Oh, your coursal levels are fine, 109 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: you're fine. Your estrogen levels are a little bit higher. 110 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: You've got pecos you're fine. Everything is so black or 111 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: white and females hormones are just so complex and so 112 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: intricate that it doesn't make much sense for so many 113 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: people when they go there and they come back so 114 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: deflated and defeated. And so I've also come to really 115 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: appreciate natural means of healing and the depths that we 116 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: have to go to to really understand the body. But 117 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: you went from being an asopathic doctor to also becoming 118 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: a legend in the skin care world. So tell me 119 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: how that connected. How is our skin connected to our 120 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: gut health? 121 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: It's and that's what happened is that patients would come 122 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: to see me, and my practice was in Vancouver, Canada, 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: and then shortly after I was in London for eleven years, 124 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: and I. 125 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: Didn't as you were learned for eleven years. 126 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I think our pats kind of I think 127 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: you had moved to la by this time. But I 128 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: was in London for eleven years and really changed the 129 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: way people saw naturopathic medicine because they have naturopaths there, 130 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: but they don't have naturopathic doctors we have different schoolings, 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: so we actually go to medical school. So I was 132 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: one of the few naturopathic doctors in London. So it 133 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: was really interesting for me to see women that were 134 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: coming in, you know, from Vancouver and then London, and 135 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I was getting the same reaction as soon as I 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: was treating the patient at the level of their gut. 137 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: They were having friends tell them that they looked five 138 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: to ten years younger. So they would say to me, 139 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: people are asking me what I'm doing. So I was like, 140 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: but they're like, what can I do for my skin 141 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: doctri nigma, because Okay, I feel great inside and my 142 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: skin is improved, but I still need that extra bit. 143 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: And I thought, hmm, I need to do inside out. 144 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wanted to do it for myself because 145 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was in my thirties and going into 146 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: my forties. I need to do this. So I figured 147 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: out an inside out plan for women and basically try 148 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: to create an individualized program for my patients, but then 149 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: create something for the masses. So it was a fine 150 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: juggling act. 151 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: But you're a very good representation of what you do 152 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: because your skin is phenomenal every time I see you, 153 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: and so I feel like you definitely practice and what 154 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: you are talking about and what you believe in is 155 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: such a great example. You are such a great example 156 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: of that. And by the way, I forgot to mention everyone. 157 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: Doctor Nima has an incredible book out called Youngest Skin 158 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Starts in the Gut and there's a full week program 159 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: in right to help you to eliminate any gut issues. 160 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: But then also the benefit of that is great skin. 161 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: And so definitely go and check that out. And we 162 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: like to say you have another potential book on the way. 163 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: We have another book on the way, which I'm very 164 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: excited about. But let's really get into it because I 165 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: feel like people have so many questions about the skin. 166 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: So how you know you mentioned that your patients said 167 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: that they looked twenty years younger, ten years younger. What 168 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: is the link between gut health and prettymature aging. 169 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: So your gut microbiota. You have one hundred trillion bacteria 170 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: in your gut, so it's like a whole universe in 171 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: there on its own. There's the good ones, the bad ones, 172 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: the ugly ones. There's like a whole thing going on, 173 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: and you have as soon as you eat something RADI 174 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: from the moment you eat it, you start digesting in 175 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: your mouth. 176 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: Think about gremlins. Did you ever or you too young 177 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: for that? 178 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: No, I know the gremlins. 179 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you remember the gremlins that you feed them 180 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: after midnight or if they get wet, they go crazy. 181 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: Well that in your gut, So imagine feeding them sugar, dairy, gluten, alcohols, 182 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: you know, wines, whatever, different kinds of alcohols. They actually 183 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: go crazy. And you feed them these bad foods or 184 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: these foods that are inflammatory, and they don't act the 185 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: way they're supposed to act. They're supposed to be protecting 186 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: the gut, and most of your gut microbiotic. The bacteria 187 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: are anaerobic, which means that they don't need oxygen to survive, 188 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: and so you know you want to have There's different 189 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: kinds of oxygen wanting, oxygen depriving, but they all work 190 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: on something called pH, so the pH balance. And we 191 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: hear about being too acidic and there has to be 192 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: a cidity in the stomach, but then in the colon 193 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: it has to be alkaline. So there's different phs and 194 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: the bacteria then thrive based on that pH. Now, what 195 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: changes the pH is when you eat different kinds of 196 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: foods when you're lacking a diversity of plant, you're eating 197 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: too much heavy in the meat kingdom, or you're eating 198 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: too much sugar. That causes chaos in there and you 199 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: get those gremlins alive, you know, throwing plates around and 200 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: destroying the gut microbiome. And when that happens, you lose 201 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: your nutrients, you lose your anyoxidants that your body needs 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: in order to thrive. 203 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: So it's coming from the gut. 204 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: And so then is inflammation also linked to an acidic 205 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: environment in the gut. So do they come hand in 206 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: hand generally or are they two separate issues. 207 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, they do come hand in hand. But 208 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: the pH changes as you go down through the digestive system. 209 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if people know this, but the actual 210 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: stomach area where the phs has to be really acidic. Yeah, 211 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: they've got to break it all down, right, They've got 212 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: to break it all down. And what else do they 213 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: have to do? They have to annihilate any kind of 214 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: bad bacteria. So say you and I ate something at 215 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: a restaurant and there was you know, a Bacterii on 216 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: there that was going to cause problems for food poisoning, 217 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: and you had more stomach acid than I. 218 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: Did. 219 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: You know, you're younger than I am, So chances are 220 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: you have better stomach acid, then you'd be able to 221 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: kick that food poisoning versus I would get it because 222 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: I'm not annihilating that microbe that I ingested. The third 223 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: thing that the stomach acid does is it increases B 224 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: twelve absorption. Oh so it has something called intrinsic factor. 225 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: So again, if you're not having the right pH in 226 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: your stomach, it's going to affect everything all the way, 227 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: trickling down to the small intestine, the motor migratory complex 228 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: and the small intestine that gets messed up when the 229 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: pH changes. 230 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so tell us some of the best foods or like, 231 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: give me your top five foods that you incorporate in 232 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: your life every day to feed your gut microbiome, which 233 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: obviously that needs to healthy skin. 234 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so prebiotics are really good to take in, you know, 235 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: like we have sour kraut, cabbage, kimchi. They can be 236 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: gas forming as well, especially if you're not used to it. 237 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: You might have your neighbors move away from you if 238 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: you're doing that. 239 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 240 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: If you've ever seen so fast date food, No, it's 241 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: it's definitely not worst, it's true. And incorporating those into 242 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: your diet, I think on a daily basis is a 243 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: good idea. Anything warmed and cooked, you know, rich and 244 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: mainly plant based. And your book is a really good example. 245 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: All the recipes in your book are so good. My 246 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: mom's coming to town and I'm going to have her 247 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: help me make some of your recipes. I've made a few, 248 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: but you know, some of the recipes in your book, 249 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: those are really good choices for gut health and really 250 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: thinking about people who eat have poor gut or poor digestion. 251 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: Stay away from salads and cold foods because a really 252 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: hard to digest. And also there's going to be a shocker, 253 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: maybe not for you, but garlic. It's a really tough one. 254 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: So I know you asked me for the things that help. 255 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: But like warming foods, you know, plant based foods are 256 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: really good, kimchiese, sauer kraut, those kinds of prebyrns. 257 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it really is just what you said earlier. 258 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: It's a variety, like you have so many different variants 259 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: and microbuying in your stomach, which means to feed the 260 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: healthy bacteria, the different types, you need to be having 261 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: different types of foods that feed those different types of bacteria. 262 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: And so I think people get used to having the 263 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: same foods over and over again. We're all culprits of it. 264 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: You have the dishes you love making, you have the 265 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: ingredients you're used to buying. But I always say to people, like, 266 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: look at what season it is, look at what's available, 267 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: because I think the problem sometimes is that our supermarkets 268 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: have too many things that run throughout the year that 269 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: aren't actually supposed to and so you end up being 270 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: the same thing where maybe those squashes are not actually 271 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: in season right now, your gut's not meant to be 272 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: eating them right now. And so I think a big 273 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: part of it is pay attention to what seasonal where 274 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: you're eating, where you're living, and also just pick like 275 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: one or two new things every week to incorporate into 276 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: your meal, into your diet. You know, there's that new 277 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: I think it's a government thing, but like the thirty 278 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: is it thirty? The points for fruits and vegetables. Have 279 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: you had about that? They're called like plant points, and 280 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: so it's saying trying to hit thirty plant points. I 281 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: think it's thirty plant points every single week, so it's 282 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: thirty different types of fruits or vegetables or hebs in 283 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: your diet. And I was like, that's a great way 284 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: of putting it. 285 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: That is, it's such a smart way. 286 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you brought up the seasonal eating 287 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: because that's really really important. Like as we get into 288 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: the winter, you squash, and there's some the beautiful colors 289 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: and in these vegetables are rich in antioxidants that are 290 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: really going to support the gut lining and help your 291 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: gut lining, because that's a really big one. Your gut 292 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: lining will determine how quickly you age. 293 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: Wow, your gut lining will determine how quickly you age. 294 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: And so really, so much of what we need to 295 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: focus on for our external body is linked to our 296 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: gut health and so focusing on that before you even 297 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: thinking about what facial you're going to get is probably. 298 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the place is that think about the gut lining. 299 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: It's only one cell thick or thin rather, and so 300 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: it's like a you know, a double ended sort. It's 301 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: like it's thin enough to get the nutrients in, but 302 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: thick enough to keep the bad guys out, so that 303 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: gut lining will determine. You know, leaky gut we've heard about, 304 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: So if you have leaky gut, your increased risk for 305 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, intestinal permeability, infection, bloating, gas, constipation, diarrhea, all 306 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: those things are you know, you can say that there 307 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: could be a leaky gut situation. 308 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned meat and then and obviously you know I'm 309 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: plant based, but I'm always interested to know if people 310 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: have studies or facts about what is the link between 311 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: eating red meat or eating meat and your skin or 312 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: gut health asolutely. 313 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: I think there's so many things. When when you talk 314 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: about meat, there's an energetic factor of the animal, there's 315 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: a digestive ability. You need a ton of enzymes to 316 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: digest meat. It's so hard to digest. And I think that, 317 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, while some people do really well on like 318 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: a high protein animal diet, I see a lot of inflammation. 319 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: So I feel like, if you're gonna eat meat, look 320 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: at it as a plant based diet and lower the 321 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: amount of meat intake. You know, because you can find 322 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: protein from so many other sources, and it's about doing 323 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: it right. And your book taught me that a bit 324 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, like I knew that, but I've now been 325 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: incorporating some of your recipes and it's really been helpful. 326 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: The sweetest. By the way, you just have to bring 327 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: your mama over here and I'll just cook for her. Oh, 328 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: don't get it. Don't open the book and be like, mom, 329 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: make this for me to be like, I'm going to 330 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: go to Bothy's and I'm gonna she's gonna cook for us. Oh, 331 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: she's gonna that. 332 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: She's gonna love it because you're a great cook. 333 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: God, thank you. 334 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: I've tried a lot of your food. I have best. 335 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: It's delicious. 336 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 2: It's just so sweet. Okay, So let's say everyone's eating 337 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: all the fruits, the vegetables, all the good foods that 338 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 2: they need to be eating for their gut. What's your 339 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: view on supplements. Should people be taking supplements every single day? 340 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: Are they gut supplements that people should be having on 341 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: a daily basis? You know, give us a rundown of 342 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: your view on supplements. 343 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: I think unfortunately, we've hit a point where there's not 344 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: enough nutrients in our food to get all of your 345 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 1: nutrients we need. We need enough nutrients to deal with 346 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: the stress that you know, we're dealing with today, hormonal changes, 347 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: environmental toxin. So supplements are very good, but I feel 348 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: like cycling them sometimes is important based on your needs. 349 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: So I think that's where naturopathic doctors really do a 350 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: good job of assessing you, looking at your bloods. You know, 351 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: for example, vitamin D. We're coming into winter, right, we 352 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: want to load up on the vitamin D because we're 353 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: not getting exposed to so much sun. And some of us, 354 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: like myself, who I never try to sit in the sun, 355 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't want my skin to at prematurely will need 356 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: more vitamin D, especially darker skin tones require more vitamin 357 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: D intake. So I think it's about, just like you said, 358 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: seasonal eating. I feel like supplements are the same right 359 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: and getting the right advice for you. I think it 360 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: is a good investment to go to someone who really 361 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: can look at your labs and can tell you like, Okay, 362 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: here's what we're going to do for the next three months. 363 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: We're going to see how you feel, recheck your bloods 364 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: or redo some other tests depending on what your symptoms are, 365 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: and then go from there. But having said that, if 366 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: you're vegan, then being on a B complex is important 367 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: to do all all around, just so you're getting all 368 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: your nutrients. 369 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 370 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: I think that's such an important point that you touched on, 371 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: because I find that there's so much information about supplements 372 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: right now, and it's getting more and more, and there's 373 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: different types and you know, different brands. I think the 374 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: problem is there's not much education around supplements. And I 375 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: know one of my friends in London, she actually was 376 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: struggling with sleep and so she started taking some supplements 377 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: that people recommended. She ended up going to the doctor. 378 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 2: She had tripled the amount of one nutrient that she 379 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: needed that was actually stopping her from sleeping. She had 380 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: basically gotten insomnia. And I can't remember, wish I could 381 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: remember exactly which was it? Zinc was it? There was 382 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: a supplement that she was could have been be twelve. 383 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: It could have been if she was taking too much 384 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: of it at night. 385 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: Yes, So I think what had happened was she was 386 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: taking a huge dosage of it and then she was 387 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: getting insomnia from it, and she didn't put the two 388 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: and two together. So whatever this supplement was, she was 389 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: taking so much of it it actually created toxicity in 390 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: her body. Now that's an extreme situation, but I do 391 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: think that there is You know, everyone's like take a 392 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: bit to mindy, take a betail take of this. But 393 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: what you said about go get yourself assessed because what 394 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: your friend, what your mom or your aunt's taking is 395 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 2: not going to be what your body may need. And 396 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: so you may be create you may not even have 397 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: the ability to absorb those nutrients right now. So you 398 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: need to get your gut checked and then you need 399 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: to get your levels checked and then figure out what 400 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: supplements you should be taking. And honestly, I think that's 401 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: the same thing with ivadic curves, like right with usha, 402 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: gandha and things like that. They don't necessarily need to 403 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: be taken every day, but if you find yourself in 404 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: stressful periods, take it three for three months, see how 405 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: you feel. I think we used to just popping those 406 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: pills in the morning, making us that make us feel 407 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: like we're doing something for our health. But I think 408 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: it's so important that these vitamins are actually like medicine 409 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: for us too, and so you have to be so 410 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: careful with which ones you're taking and get assessment before 411 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: you decide to just take them years on end. 412 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: Have you heard of the mtchfar gene, No tell me. 413 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: So this gene is if you have a double positive 414 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: to this MTHR MTHFR gene, then you can have increased 415 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: risks of not being able to absorb folate and so therefore, 416 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: if you're doing too much B twelve you can mask 417 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: a folate deficiency and vice versa. So again it comes 418 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: down to testing individually, Like I have a positive and 419 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: a negative snip for this particular gene, so I know 420 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: I need to take B twelve folate very often, and 421 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: also I take it with alongside other B vitamins because 422 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: B vitamins are like a big happy family. They need 423 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: to be taken together. So just to remember, if you're 424 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: just taking B twelve, it's not a big happy family. 425 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: You need B one, B two, B twelve, B six folate, 426 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: So you need the family as a unit to take 427 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: together because they all work synergistically. So yeah, no, no 428 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: again with the MTHFR is super important to get things 429 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: like that tested if you're really keen. 430 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: And people wouldn't know people just as someone like you 431 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: tells them. Are there any specific supplements you think are 432 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: a generic thing that people can be taking to support 433 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: their gut or skin health or would you say it 434 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: is really just very specific. 435 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: It's a good question. 436 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: I think generally speaking, I've measured so many patients over 437 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, and I've used different labs, not 438 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: just the conventional labs that are out there that really 439 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: don't tell you the proper reference ranges for B twelve. 440 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 1: I think the reference ranges are larger than they are 441 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: in the blood, so it can make it look like 442 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: you're taking too much B twelve and freak you out. 443 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: But remember B twelve is water soluble, so it really 444 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: can't do a ton of harm unless you're taking barrels 445 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: of it. So I would say the one thing that 446 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: I see in almost everyone benefit is a be complex. 447 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: Okay, good, So that's a useful one. It's gonna take 448 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: anything grab a bee complex. You have spoken about perimenopause 449 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: lately on your social media, and I would love to 450 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: hear your experience, but also any advice that you could 451 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: give to people that are going through it or symptoms 452 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: that can help recognize that can help me to recognize that, 453 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: because I feel like I'm new to the term of 454 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: perimenopause and I feel like a lot of people are 455 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: you hear menopause yes, but perimenopause is something that I'm 456 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: hearing more and more now. 457 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: And there's even Perry peri perimenopause. 458 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: My gosh, here we go. Give me all of them. 459 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: Give me the Perry, the peri pari, and the peri 460 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: peri perimenopause. Give me the lowdown on it. 461 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the symptoms start before your period stops, and 462 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: so you know, women can in their I'm seeing women 463 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: in their twenties with low progesterone, really really low progesterone, 464 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: and as a result, they're having problems sleeping. They're having 465 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: similar symptoms to menopausal women, but they haven't quite stopped 466 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: their period yet. So you know, at least in menopause, 467 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: the period is stopped and you're not getting the chie 468 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: sucked out of you, right, And you know, you have 469 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: these younger women in their twenties experiencing this and it 470 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: really boils down to cortisol and stress. I feel like 471 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stress, you know with social media. 472 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about a lot of that on 473 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: your Instagram, which I think is super important, like putting 474 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: down your phone. 475 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: But do we do that, know and can we do that? 476 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: You know? 477 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: And even for you know, people in their twenties, you know, 478 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: their universities, they need their computers to do their school 479 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: work or to do their job or you know. So 480 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: it's getting worse and worse. And what is that cortisol? 481 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: How is that cortisol impacting our hormones? It's massively impacting 482 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: our hormones. I'm seeing women going into Perry Perry menopause 483 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: in their thirties and partly, you know, skipped periods, night sweats, fatigue, 484 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, any issues you're having in your current menstrual 485 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: cycling periods is going to affect It's going to be 486 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: like a kind of like a sign of what your 487 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 1: menopause is going to look like. So you have to 488 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: start taking care of your hormones now before you hit 489 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: the menopause. 490 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: And what does that look like for someone who's trying 491 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: to prevent I say that they have an a perimenopause 492 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: or menopause. What are some of the things that we 493 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: can do to really protect ourselves or you can protect 494 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: sself from getting it, but to lessen the effects of menopause. 495 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: So think about it. 496 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: How do hormones get out of our body? We pee 497 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: it out, we pooh it out, and we sweat it 498 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: out and we bleed it out right. So those are 499 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: the ways we get rid of the dor dirty hormones 500 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: I call them. And these hormones need to be cleaned. 501 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: So how do they get cleaned? Plant based diet, really 502 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: good diet get also enhancing your liver's ability to detoxify, 503 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: because a liver one hundred percent clear hormones. So I 504 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: had a patient yesterday, for example, and she just you know, 505 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm writing my second book right now, but she says 506 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: something really interesting. She said, doctor Enigma, I started taking 507 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: the liver herbs that you gave me because I was 508 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: getting all these night sweats and you know, all these 509 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: menopausal symptoms, brain fog. And she said, I would take 510 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: these herbs and the glutacion and all the rest of it, 511 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: and the hot flashes would disappear. And I said, because 512 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: you're cleaning your hormones, and she's I said, were you 513 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: constipated during that time? And she was, as a matter 514 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: of fact, I was. So it all boils down again 515 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: to how well are we eliminating those dirty hormones out 516 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: of our body? And when we don't eliminate them, they 517 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: recycle and they create more communication errors and that's where 518 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: the hormonal imbalances happen. 519 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we think about cleaning our hormones, do we, 520 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: And I think the liver is almost overlooked unless you 521 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: think you have an alcohol problem or you know, the 522 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: liver is not something we really think about cleansing. And 523 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: every time I've gone to a natopathic doctor or a 524 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: homeopathic doctor, the first thing I say, your liver is fatigued. 525 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 2: Thing is about everybody, but they focus so heavily on 526 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: the liver or you need to support your liver, and 527 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: they say that overheated liver. In iraveda, they call it 528 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: an overheated liver. Your liver is overheated. It's not able 529 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: to work as hard because of the inflammation that we 530 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 2: put into our body the foods that we're eating. It's 531 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: causing inflammation and it's overheating your liver. And if your 532 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: heat liver is overheated, it's not able to work as efficiently. 533 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: And so do you know any good foods that people 534 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: should be eating to support their liver health? Oh? 535 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get so. Artichokes are fantastic. They really really 536 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: clean out the liver and any any sorts of fiber 537 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: in the diet any you know, foods that are rich 538 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: in fiber, because you've got to clean the liver. 539 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: And then you've got to sweep it out. 540 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: Okay, right, so it's like cleaning the house, but leaving 541 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: the dust in a corner. 542 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 3: Right. 543 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: We need to get rid of that dust and eliminate 544 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: it from the body. So it's always going to be 545 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: about bowel movements, and as we get older, the elasticity 546 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: in our intestinal you know, we're all made up of twoubes, right, 547 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: you know, our nervous system or gut, these tubes, the 548 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: elasticity need to be really nice and strong. So it's 549 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: all about supporting that, you know, having things that are warming. 550 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: Think about it. 551 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: When you're constipated, everything is backing up, yeah, right, And 552 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: when things back up, it also affects your neurotransmitters, right, 553 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: your feel good hormones, and your feel good hormones are 554 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: ninety percent of them serotonin are found in the gut. 555 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: So everything changes as a result. Mood, energy, energy, you know, elasticity. 556 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: It all boils down to pooping. 557 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: Okay, great, So autochokes. 558 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: So artichokes, artichokes and fiber Okay, anything that's rich and 559 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: fible soluble and insoluble fibers, you know. Let so, fruits 560 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: and vegetables are rich and steaming them will help you 561 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: digest them better as well. 562 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, I've noticed that whenever my guts spin not 563 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: feeling great, the last thing I need is rule food. 564 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: Steaming your vegetables it's almost like cooking them a little 565 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: bit before you. Your stomach has to cook them and 566 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: digest them down. It just makes it so much easier 567 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: to digest. I've also had steaming your vegetables helps the 568 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: nutrients become more available. 569 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: It does, Yeah, it does. 570 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: And I often make a soup out of the vegetables, 571 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: so I keep like the broth, you know, or if 572 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm steaming artichokes or anything that I'll drink the broth after. 573 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a good one. Is there anything you 574 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: drink or do you have anything that you have on 575 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: a daily basis that you're like, I have to have 576 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: this for my skin every single day. 577 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: For you personally, oh gosh, honestly, my vitamin C. I 578 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: have to have vitamin C every day. 579 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: But your vitamin C is the taste is vitamin C 580 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: I've ever had. It tastes like a little mocktail that 581 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm having every morning. I know. 582 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: That's why I created it because I kept checking my 583 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: vitamin C levels and I was so low, and every 584 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: patient I check is low because we don't make vitamin C. 585 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: My cute little dog, Dante, he makes vitamin C because 586 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: dogs make vitamin C, but we don't. And the more 587 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: a dreamally driven we are, because you and I are 588 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: very driven. 589 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: And we're arenal fatigue, adrenal. 590 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: What do we need? We need vitamin C for our adrenals. 591 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: Oh, you need vitamin C for your adrenals. 592 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. Vitamin C it is. 593 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't realize that, and so to support your 594 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: adrenal glands, you recommend. So vitamin C is the It's huge. 595 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't think of vitamin C as 596 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: an adrenal support, but it's huge. And it also for me, 597 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: it helps my skin collagen. It helps with wound healing. 598 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: So if I nick myself or get a scratch, that 599 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: heals much quicker when I have my vitamin C. So 600 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: I think the vitamin C is a really for me. 601 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: I can't every day is I have vitamin C on 602 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: a daily Okay, that's. 603 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: Really good to know. I love that you talk about 604 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: all these different faces. You have sugar face, wine face, 605 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: dairy face, and gluten face. Now, please, I love these. 606 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: Tell me what a sugar face looks like. Okay, so 607 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: it's not a sweet face either. Already it's not as 608 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: cute and sweet as. 609 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: We like it to be. So it's like this kind 610 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: of think of sugar and sagging. Oh okay, So somebody's 611 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: skin is sagging. It's sort of sallow gray. And we 612 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: know that sugar causes like breakdown of collagen. So anyone 613 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: who has like pores in their skin, a high amount 614 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: of poor skin, that can be a sugar face basically. 615 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: And also acne, oh, widespread acne on the face because 616 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: sugar feeds those bad bacteria that then start to act up. 617 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: Remember the gremlins I do I show up on the face. 618 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Acne is gremlins on the face, isn't it. I 619 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: actually have given up sugar and it's been about a 620 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: month now, like fully taking process sugar out of my diet. 621 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: The only thing I have our fruits. I don't even 622 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: have dates and stuff as part of it. When I 623 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: tell you the difference it has made not just to 624 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 2: my skin, like I remember I was getting all those 625 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: little dots on the top of my head the perry, 626 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: what did you call it? 627 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: Dermatitis? 628 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: Dermatitis? I was getting tiny little dots on the top 629 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: of my forehead and then also getting them perial dermatitis 630 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: all the way around my mouth. All of that has 631 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: completely gone. And when I tell you, it was within 632 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: five days of me giving up sugar that the stuff 633 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: on my head went away. And it has not come 634 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: back since. And usually it was kind of cycling. I 635 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: kept getting it during my period. I would get it 636 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: or it would just randomly show up. And honestly, I 637 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: was I was at a point in my life where 638 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: I was eating more sugar than I ever had. 639 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: I was. 640 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: I think I was quite stressed out my way to satisfy. 641 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: That is, like after every meeting, I'm like, oh, you 642 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: can have a little bit of sweet. I have a 643 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: little bite of me I deserve it. Yeah, it's just 644 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: a little bit after everything. That's fine. But what I 645 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 2: realized was I wasn't able to actually function without it. 646 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: That if I chose not to have it, it was 647 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: like a craving that I couldn't satisfy. And I really 648 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: don't like being in control of like, I like being 649 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: in control of myself. That's why I don't drink and 650 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: why I don't do other things. But one thing that 651 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: was controlling me was my sugar, and so I was 652 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: just like, I have to try. And honestly, day one 653 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: was the hardest after day one, because usually I would 654 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: fail on day one. After day one, I was like, 655 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: oh I could do day two, Oh I can do 656 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: day three. And it's pretty much been a month. But 657 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: the difference I can't see it, can you? It looks amazing, 658 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: the difference that it has made in my skin, but 659 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: also in my cravings, like I've increased the protein as 660 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: well since I've stopped eating sugar. But I never thought 661 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: I could be in a phase in my life where 662 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: I didn't crave something sweet. And I never understood when 663 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: people told I thought they were just like binging secretly. 664 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: When someone told me that they don't want dessert, I'd 665 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: be like, what do you mean you don't? How can 666 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: you resist? I didn't know how someone could resist, And 667 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: I just have to say that it is not something 668 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: that you miss when you take out. Now, I'm like, okay, 669 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: at one point I'll add it back in, maybe have 670 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: a bit here and there, but to be dependent on it, 671 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: I honestly felt like I was addicted to something in 672 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: a serious way. But the skin what a difference game changer? Yeah, 673 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: and I can see it. Yes, Well, it makes the 674 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: difference to the puffiness on my face as well, which 675 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 2: brings me on to wine face. So think about wine face. 676 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: So wine and sugar, right, the same thing, but wine 677 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: is even more difficult because you have these You know, 678 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: wine triggers a lot of damage to the liver as 679 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: well and also to the neurological function of the body 680 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: in general. So it causes inflammation. So you'll see a 681 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: lot of redness on the skin. You see a lot 682 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: of that roseationa type skin. And also you see the 683 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: wrinkles right in the in the liver meridian on the 684 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: Chinese medicine map on the face. And so I would 685 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: see that in patients a lot that would indulge in 686 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: wine on a daily basis. So and if you do 687 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: it on an occasional basis, you'll even see it the 688 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: next day. I know, when I've had wine in the past, 689 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: I wake up the next day, I'm like, oh, I 690 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: have wine face, all right, you know, And it takes 691 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: a lot to get rid of the wine face, because 692 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: you've got to, like you know, you've got to do 693 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: appeal to restore the skin. It's an expensive habit. So 694 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: you know what you did in five days with sugar. 695 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: That's how quickly the body heals when you stop. 696 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 3: Eating these things. 697 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: All right, So that's wine face. Tell us about dairy face. 698 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: Okay, dairy face. And I don't know if you remember 699 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: the days when you're eating dairy. 700 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: Whit, dude. That's why I'm so excited to hear this. 701 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: So the dairy, you know, for me, dairy is a devil. 702 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: It causes so much inflammation. So think it's as sinus basis. 703 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: They're so small, So when you have mucus forming foods 704 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: like dairy, they cause congestion and the sinus basis. So 705 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: what does that congestion look like on the face? Puffiness, ye, 706 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: darkness under the eyes. There's this little puff right in 707 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: the inner eye that you'll see quite often, and that 708 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: puff is like inflammation and that's coming from the dairy. 709 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 2: I have absolutely seen dairy face on many people and 710 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, come on, I'm telling you it's dairy. 711 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: Did you know that it was dairy yes, I did 712 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: because just mainly because what I found is, especially in 713 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: Asian culture. I don't know whether you've noticed this, but 714 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 2: South Asians, a lot of people are actually allergic to dairy. Yes, 715 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: that and also a lot of my black friends growing up, 716 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: they had a lot of dairy allergies in their families. 717 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: And so what I found was I noticed that a 718 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 2: lot of people would get eczema in Indian culture, South 719 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 2: Indian culture, and the main thing that we were eating 720 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: was so much dairy. And so I definite knew the 721 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: link between eczema and dairy. But it makes so much 722 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: sense with the puffiness and the congestion around here. I 723 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: definitely remember having that. I was way more mucacy when 724 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: I used to eat dairy. And actually I remember the 725 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: wine face. My friend in college he would always ten 726 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: bright red when he would have alcohol, bright red and 727 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 2: he was Asian, and I heard that they have they 728 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: sometimes can. 729 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: Have time and so yeah, they dehydrogenase. 730 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can know even if it was like, no, 731 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm not drunk, I'm like, your face is literally bright 732 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: red right now, you've definitely had a drink. So that's 733 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: a very telling factor. The last one is gluten face, 734 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: or is I like to call it carb face? 735 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 3: Okay, I like that too. 736 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: So the gluten phase, I mean, gluten is not in 737 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: all the carbs, right, so that's that's a thing. Goodness 738 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: for that. Otherwise you can't do it without carbs. Gluten 739 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: is really hard on the body. And I know when 740 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: we hear about gluten, we think about Siliac's disease, but 741 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people roaming around that don't 742 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: have Siliac's disease. But the gluten is causing intestinal permeability. 743 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: And so when I look at the gluten face, it's 744 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: like the puffiness. It's like, you know, it's kind of 745 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: like yeast rising and bread, so you think about it. 746 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I have experienced that because my other vices after 747 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 2: sugar is pizza, okay, So I definitely know it's pizza face. 748 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: I know when I've had a whole pizza or like pasta, 749 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: something that's very gluteny and carby but has gluten in it, 750 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: the next morning, I'm like puff face, you know, I'm 751 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: like full on puff daddy going on. When I look 752 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: in the mirror, I'm like, how puffy could my face get? 753 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: And it's so true the puffiness under your eyes, your cheeks, 754 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 2: everything feels very swollen. But there's definitely a good definition 755 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 2: of gluten face. It's absolutely puffy. Thank you for breaking 756 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: those faces down. It's really good to know because I 757 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: think when you hear them in this, in this way 758 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: where it's relatable, you start to notice the things that 759 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: are actually causing issues in your body, and your skin 760 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: and your physical body are showing you the symptoms of 761 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: what's happening inside. We're just not used to listening or 762 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: seeing them. And so these little things, when you can 763 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: put them into fun ways like this, it's like, oh, okay, 764 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: today I can see that I'm actually reacting to wine 765 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: or sugar or dairy or gluten. And I would say, 766 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 2: as funny as it is, it's actually a really great 767 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 2: way to know what you need to start either removing 768 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: from your diet or reducing in your diet. And I 769 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 2: think it's really important because I know it's just with sugar. 770 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: I kept ignoring it. I kept ignoring. I was like, no, 771 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: it's not the sugar. I can't be let me just 772 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 2: eat another cake. It's fine, But it definitely was the sugar. 773 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: In all your years of doing this what's one thing 774 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 2: that you found as a resounding thing that people are 775 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 2: doing wrong when it comes to their skincare. Is there 776 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: anything that sticks out to you. 777 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: I think people are using too many products and I'm 778 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: seeing so many reactions, and so I think less is more, 779 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: and really the things that matter the most are going 780 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: to be, you know, getting a good night's sleep, you know, 781 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: making sure that you're sleeping your sleep hygiene is optimal. 782 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: And also like just using a few products, not using 783 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: like ten steps. 784 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 3: You know, you don't need ten steps, and. 785 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: Just having it as a routine where you're using really 786 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: good products that are you know, tested by a doctor 787 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: somebody that understands skincare and understands like there's a holistic 788 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: part of this. It's not just slapping on stuff on 789 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: your skin. It's an inside job. So knowing that and 790 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: using really easy products to use that are like you know, 791 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: formulated and you know, understood in terms of their ingredients, 792 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: in terms of efficacy, I think that's important. 793 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 794 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: I think about my grandma who is over ninety now, 795 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: and less is more. Let me tell you, she has 796 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: used maybe one product on her face throughout her whole life. 797 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: I've given her some and now maybe she uses like 798 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 2: a little bit more like a fancier oil than she 799 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: used to, but nothing. She doesn't have a cleanser atona 800 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 2: of hyaluronic acid are like all these She's just been 801 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 2: simple with her skincare. She washes her face with water 802 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 2: and then she'll put on her oil and that's pretty 803 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 2: much it. And I just think, you know, you don't 804 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 2: have to get that simple. But for someone who's ninety 805 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: and looks like she is in incredible skin shape, I've 806 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 2: always looked at and I'm like, yeah, you know, what, 807 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 2: do I really need to go get that or do 808 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: I really need to be doing all these things? I 809 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 2: think you're so right, there's too many products out there. 810 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 2: So on that note, what would you say, what does 811 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: your morning skincare routine look like? Or what's an ideal 812 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: skincare routine for someone in the morning. 813 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I created my own skincare because I wanted 814 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: the best, and so I use my cleanser number one 815 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: that is rich in zeolites and come from volcanic ash that. 816 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 3: Actually really cleaned the skin. 817 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: And I added some hyaluronic in there and glycolic to 818 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: really do some very gentle like cleaning of the skin, 819 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: just like you do the tongue scraping. You'd be shocked 820 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: how much dirt comes off the skin. So it's cleaning 821 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: your skin in the morning and in the evening with 822 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: my cleanser number one, and then I created a beautiful 823 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: serum that I use morning and evening, my serum number one, 824 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: and then a cream that i've will launch hopefully soon 825 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: I use on top of that. So I layered the 826 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: serum and the cream together and then I wear an 827 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: SPF and that's it. 828 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's we need a three to four step thing. 829 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: And it takes seconds, and it's really about also massaging 830 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: the skin and moving that limph. So if you have 831 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: had dairy or gluten and you know, you can help it. 832 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 1: It was an amazing pizza, you know, do a good 833 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: facial massage, you know, and just sort of move that 834 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: lymph around, especially with your skin care. 835 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 3: And that's what I what I do to like just 836 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 3: move the circulation. 837 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: Are you fond of any skin tools? 838 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 3: Like, oh, yes, you know. 839 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: The thing is is that, like how does a lymph 840 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: move in your body doesn't have a valve or like 841 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: you know, a blood like our blood circulatory system has 842 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: a pump, but the lymphatic doesn't. So guasha is really important. 843 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: Self massage is super important. 844 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 3: It's really underrated. So to write yes, it really works, 845 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 3: really really well. 846 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 2: Well, I noticed it even more, you know, when I 847 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: come to get facials from you, when you're doing that 848 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 2: from my nasal passages all the way out, I'm like, gosh, 849 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 2: that's a bit painful. And it's because I have so 850 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 2: much build up of fluid that's between under my eyes 851 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 2: and my nose, and so I've started laying with all 852 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 2: my skin can now I just kind of massage out, 853 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: massage out, and I notice a significant difference in one 854 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 2: obviously my nasal area, but also in my skin's totness, 855 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: like how tight my skin feels. End I feeling so 856 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 2: much better when you end up massaging all that And 857 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the day it's toxins that you're 858 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: massaging out of your face. 859 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: You are And also, like you know, your skin, as 860 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: you get older in your thirties and forties, you don't 861 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: turn over the cells anymore as much as you used to. 862 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: So using a really good cleanser that's going to really 863 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: clean the skin without stripping it. 864 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 2: And what about a PM a nighttime routine. 865 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: I do the same thing the morning is in the evening. 866 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: The only one thing I add for the evening is 867 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: I've come out with a new vitamin C serum and 868 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: obviously it's not out yet, but it will be soon. 869 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: I use it as a nighttime treatment. Obviously I've been 870 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: using it because I have the samples. I'll have to 871 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: give you some. They're really good, and it really brightens 872 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: the skin. It like really gives a nice glow and 873 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: any sort of uneven skin tone or you know, we 874 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: live in California, so the sun is always even poppin'. 875 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: It's poppin' even though it's beautiful. But you know it 876 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: can cause for our skin because of Indian descent, it 877 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: can cause hyper pigmentation. 878 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to ask all these products that say 879 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: like anti wrinkle or like antiging anti one, what qualifies 880 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 2: them to say anti wrinkle? And two? Are there really 881 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 2: products out there that can reduce wrinkles in the way 882 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 2: that they say they can? And if so, what are they? 883 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, what is it? 884 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's a good question. And can anything really 885 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: get rid of your wrinkles? No? 886 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 3: Can you prevent them? Yes? 887 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: Part of why you get wrinkles, so think about it, 888 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: is your facial expressions. 889 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah. 890 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: Right, So part of it is if you're making that 891 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: same expression and you have a wrinkle that you don't like, 892 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 1: it's because you're making that expression. 893 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 3: But that wrinkle is lovely. 894 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: We also have to start looking as wrinkles like I've 895 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: earned that wrinkle, you know what I mean, I'm fifty 896 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: two now, I've earned that wrinkle, and it's fine, it's 897 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 1: not a bad thing. I think the key with looking 898 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,959 Speaker 1: optimal and beautiful is having clear skin. You know, clear 899 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: beautiful skin, and the wrinkles are are fine, But if 900 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: you're really a wrinkle tied to wrinkles, then really, you know, 901 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: the more hydration you give your skin. Obviously, things like 902 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: hyaluronic acid, we've heard different molecular weights of hyaluronic acid 903 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,959 Speaker 1: are important, small, medium, and large. Most companies only put 904 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: one molecular size in there. And then plant stem cells 905 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: that are beautiful and that they're in all my serums 906 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: because they're really really important at protecting the skin against 907 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: harsh environments. Because our skin is i mean, look at us, 908 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: We're exposed to the environment all the time, so it's 909 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: all about protecting, preserving, and hydrating. 910 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, hydration makes so much sense to me. I notice 911 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 2: my skin just it's basically just shrivels up, doesn't it. 912 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 2: If you don't have enough hydration, your cells are not hydrated, 913 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: there's no plumpness in your cells, and then there's no 914 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: plumpness in your skin. And so I'm a big advocate 915 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: for letting your wrinkles be wrinkles, just because it's just 916 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 2: the great sign that you're aging and getting wiser. But 917 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 2: I do think that to have healthy skin means that 918 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: there is enough in I radio. We call it odjust 919 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: like there's enough vitality in your skin. And what does 920 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 2: vitality look like. It looks like vibrants and for your skin, 921 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 2: bounciness and vitality. When you see it's like that glow. 922 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 2: But what does that glow actually mean. It's not necessarily 923 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 2: from a highlighter. It's literally from in having enough hydration 924 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: that is pouring through your body so that each cell 925 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 2: is working at as optimal each cell is as hydrated 926 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: as it can be. And like you said, it's inside out, 927 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 2: but that's really what it is. It's creating a system 928 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: where you realize when I'm eating these things, they are 929 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 2: either feeding myselves in a positive way or they're depleting 930 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 2: my cells. And as we're growing older, we are actually 931 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 2: our cells are aging, and so how do we support 932 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 2: our aging cells in the best way possible. And I 933 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 2: think I noticed one or two days of hydration of 934 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 2: where I don't hydrate myself properly, not just my skin, 935 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 2: my energy levels, my tiredness, my focus, my attention. It's 936 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 2: like you're literally just starving yourselves from an essential nutrient 937 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 2: that it needs to function. And so I think that's 938 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 2: very important. 939 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: It's so and you brought up such a good point, 940 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: like dehydration also makes you crave sugar. 941 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 3: Did you know that? 942 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 2: Yes? Now I sip on my water all day all 943 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 2: I have to. 944 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know you're creating this because you're dehydrated, 945 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: actually because your insulin is not working optimally. So it's 946 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: all about making that insulin work as well and sensitize 947 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: that insulin and hydration is one of the most important things. 948 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 2: Tell me about facials, now there is about high facial 949 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 2: There are like all the facials that exist, Yes, are 950 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 2: they weekly? 951 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: You know? 952 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 2: We talked about morning. We talked about evening. Tell me 953 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 2: about a weekly thing that somebody should be doing. Should 954 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 2: people we get one doing masks weekly and two if 955 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 2: they're doing facials, what type of facial do you recommend? 956 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, it depends on your skin type, you know, 957 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: like if you have echnic skin, you'll have to do 958 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: more peels. If you have mature, dry skin, you'll have 959 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: to do peels less often, but you'll be wanting to 960 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: focus on hydrating your skin. So it really depends on 961 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: your skin type. I mean, for me, I like to 962 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: do my own facials that I do radio frequency. I 963 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: have a new machine coming out. It's called the time 964 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: Lift by Doctri Nigma. So it has this infusion of 965 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: nutrients that are going to clean the skin first, because 966 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: if you don't have a clean canvas, you can't put 967 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: the nutrients in. And then I put in these various 968 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: plant peptides, and then I always end with radio frequency, 969 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: and radiofrequency increases the collagen production and the treatment starts 970 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: to work even after your treatment is ended, like it 971 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: continues over the next three to six weeks. I don't 972 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: know if you've noticed, after you get a face treatment 973 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: with me, you get this like really nice defined jaw 974 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: and it stays for a bit and then we eat 975 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: sugar and then we sleep funny, and then our collagen. 976 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's just about maintenance. And I think everybody 977 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 1: should have their own routine. And I don't think there's 978 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 1: like a must do And some people are luckier than others, 979 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: you know, they can get by without doing a lot. 980 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: But I think the like you said, the oja as 981 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: you said, right, so the ojus is that how you 982 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 1: say that, that's like the nectar, right, like the pure 983 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: clean you know, I read that in your book, and 984 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: I think that's the key to everything. Yes, And I 985 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: think that all you do on top is just going 986 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: to be additional on the top. 987 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 3: On the top. 988 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 2: The you said the frequency radio frequency, is that the 989 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 2: same as infrared because it's so much about infrared therapy. 990 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a bit different. 991 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: You can do led an infrared, you know, those are 992 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: really those are things you can actually do at home. 993 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 2: What do they do? What the infrared? 994 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: Actually this NASA technology, So a lot of NASA astronauts 995 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: used it during when they were traveling to space to 996 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: prevent muscle atrophy. So what they also found is that 997 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: encourages college in production so you can actually use like 998 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: a nice LED mask or an l D unit, And 999 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 1: they're not that many that are FDA approved. So look 1000 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: for the companies that are FDA approved because those are 1001 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: the ones that are the safest and you know, ones 1002 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: that you're going to get the best results from. 1003 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 3: I love using LED. It's just amazing. 1004 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 2: I've seen it everywhere and always want I'm like, what 1005 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 2: does it really do for me? But that makes sense? 1006 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 2: Are you? And you said you mentioned use the same 1007 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 2: products morning and evening. I'm asking these questions because I 1008 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 2: get so many skin cloud questions and I think the 1009 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 2: details are really important. Do you do skincare cycling? Like 1010 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 2: do you change your products with the seasons or is 1011 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 2: your skin changes or is it okay if something's working 1012 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 2: for you to just keep using it. 1013 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: I think that's a you know, I think it's really 1014 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: you can try a different product from time to time, 1015 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: but I feel like the skin gets irritated if you. 1016 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 3: Switch too much. 1017 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: But if something's working for you, I sort of look 1018 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: at that as I've used the same thing over and 1019 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: over again, and I've tried other products. 1020 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 3: And I just change. 1021 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 2: If it's working, it's. 1022 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 3: Working, if it's if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 1023 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah right, collagen. We were just speaking about what are 1024 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 2: good foods to eat to sustain and maintain the collagen 1025 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 2: in our skin. 1026 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: So you know, we do have things that are plant 1027 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: based that are helping with collagen production. Excuse me, I'm 1028 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna have some juny. So there are different ways. 1029 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 3: We know. 1030 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: The bone broth from chicken has been really helpful at 1031 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: encouraging collagen. And also I use a collagen powder that 1032 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 1: I've created that has natical collagen that has the most 1033 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 1: studies and any other marine collagen, so it comes from fish, 1034 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: and fish skins are really rich in collagen production into 1035 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: the skin, so I think and also treatments like micro 1036 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: needling improve collagen production and elasticity. But I think the 1037 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: really heat it boils down when we look at all 1038 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: these things collagen and should I take this and should 1039 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: I take that? It's keeping that one cell that intestinal 1040 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: lining as functional and as pampered as possible, you know, 1041 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 1: and we can get things from cabbage that are rich 1042 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: and glutamine that actually support that gut lining, because if 1043 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: you have that gut lining supported, you're going to get 1044 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 1: the nutrients coming in. And then you're not going to 1045 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: have to take a collagen supplement because you're already supporting 1046 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: the gut from within. 1047 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. I have some a few things 1048 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 2: that I'm going to throw at you and tell me 1049 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 2: whether they're fads or whether you really think they work. Okay. 1050 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: So one of the things is seems okay. So I 1051 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 1: don't know if you've tried it before, but I. 1052 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,439 Speaker 2: Have tried it. I've went through a phase of having 1053 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 2: it every single morning. 1054 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any clinical efficacy. 1055 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 3: I think it's a fad. 1056 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because I had when I started eating it, it 1057 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 2: was because it said it was so rich in all 1058 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 2: the vitamins and minerals and everything that your skin and 1059 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 2: your body needs to just stay healthy. So I was like, 1060 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: I'll get on that. Bought mine from Iwana, but was 1061 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 2: taking like a spoonful of every day. I wouldn't say 1062 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 2: that I did anything. I didn't. I didn't feel like 1063 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: I had it long enough to see an effect, but 1064 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 2: I also didn't feel a negative effects. I was like, 1065 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 2: all right, let me just keep piling it on. But 1066 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 2: get to know fad liquid chlorophyll. 1067 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I would say it's there's a lot of benefits 1068 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 1: to chlorophyll, and especially people who are sushi eaters. There's 1069 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: a lot of mercury and fish, so the chlorophyll is 1070 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: really important at binding to that. 1071 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 2: Red light therapy. We spoke about absolutely one hundred percent 1072 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 2: not a fad NAD Okay, Yeah, So there's na D 1073 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,919 Speaker 2: and there's any MAN and it's a it's a big 1074 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 2: long story. 1075 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: Any D anemen converts into NAD. It does work, it 1076 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: does do your body good. But I think being a 1077 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: sess properly because it's not cheap, you know, so if 1078 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: you want to try it and you can afford to 1079 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 1: try it, go ahead and try it. But we are 1080 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: seeing I am doing evaluations with patients before giving them 1081 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: an NAD dripper because of the fact that if you 1082 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: do have cancer cells in your body, you should not 1083 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 1: be taking NAD because it actually promotes those cells from 1084 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: undergoing mitosis and replicating, so you can they're contraindicated in 1085 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: people who have been diagnosed with cancer or who have 1086 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: cancer and don't know you have cancer. So there are 1087 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: some you know, there's some caution there, but I'm really 1088 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, looking forward to the future and more research 1089 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: in using NMN and NADU So that's something that I 1090 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: think that's you know, stay tuned. 1091 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 2: That's so good to know because let me tell you 1092 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 2: how many times I get talk with nad adverts on TikTok. 1093 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 2: But also they're not telling people the other side of it, 1094 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 2: so I think that's so important. Korean skincare. What is 1095 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 2: it about Korean skincare that everyone's obsessed with? 1096 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 1: It's it's honestly, I I'm not gonna lie. I don't 1097 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: know a lot about the ingredients and the Korean skincare, 1098 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 1: but I think Korean people in general have incredible skin. 1099 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 2: Skincare. Or is it them in the idiot like who 1100 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 2: is it? 1101 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 1: Right? 1102 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 3: Like the chicken or the egg? Which one is it? 1103 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 3: But I think, I really think that. 1104 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 1: They have looked at some ingredients that are different than 1105 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: some of the ingredients we're using here, and I think 1106 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: it's like we're all kind of doing the same thing, 1107 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 1: but we always have fomol when it's in another country. 1108 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 2: So true. Yeah, It's like everyone here is so intrigued 1109 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 2: about a vada, but when people are living in India, they're. 1110 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 3: Like, what whatever? 1111 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 2: Every day? 1112 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 3: Great? 1113 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 2: Exactly does botox? Is botox really for prevention? Because let 1114 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 2: me tell you one of my friends, I tell me, 1115 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm getting botox because it's for prevention. 1116 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 2: That's what I've been talking all the time. Is it 1117 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 2: for prevention? Yes? 1118 00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 3: Or no? 1119 00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 2: Is botox for prevention? 1120 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: So I'm going to say yes and no, and I'll 1121 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: tell you why. I'll tell you why because if you 1122 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: are remember we talked about the expression right. So if 1123 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:11,280 Speaker 1: you're constantly making this expression right, you're going to develop 1124 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: these lines like my two lines. I try not to 1125 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: make that expression because I don't want these elevens to 1126 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: show up. And I don't like to do botox. I 1127 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: do it maybe too every two to three years and 1128 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 1: baby baby botox, but I more importantly try not to 1129 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: make that frown. 1130 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 3: And so can it prevent it? 1131 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you do botox, then you're going to 1132 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: freeze this area, so you can't make that expression right. 1133 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: So it trains you not to make the expression. So 1134 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: in that way, yes, it does prevent. But does it 1135 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: People who are overdoing it are starting to look funny, 1136 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: They're starting to look older. 1137 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 2: I didn't notice that in Hollywood. All live in LA. 1138 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 2: I've never seen anyone with that botox in La. 1139 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,959 Speaker 3: What oops? The cats out of the bag. 1140 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,959 Speaker 1: Yes, So I think I think the botox is ken 1141 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: be overdone, and I think it really ruins people's beautiful 1142 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: natural expressions, like I can't tell if someone's mad at 1143 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 1: me or if it's happy. Right, It's like and I 1144 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of you know, my patients are on TV, 1145 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 1: they're acting. They have to be able to have their expressions, 1146 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: so they're like, they're all about give me doctor Enigma 1147 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: treatments all day long. The boatox is ruining my expression. 1148 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: So I would say that, you know, it's a yes 1149 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: and no you know answer, but don't listen the ladies 1150 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: in your twenties and thirties, please take it easy on 1151 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: that because you'll see a picture of yourself before the 1152 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: boatox and after. And I promise you when you're my 1153 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 1: age and your fifties, you're going to much prefer the 1154 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: picture of the no botox. 1155 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. See, you know what. I'm so happy, so like, 1156 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: okay with everyone making their own decisions, of course, no judgment. 1157 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 2: But I think my thing has always been, you know, 1158 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 2: after living in la where to be honest and London, 1159 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have even heard about having botox, like 1160 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 2: where where I grew up, you'd hear about it, but 1161 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,959 Speaker 2: it's not something you'd even think about getting done. Right 1162 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 2: after moving to LA of course, like every other person 1163 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 2: is talking about it. And I came to the conclusion 1164 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 2: because my friend, my friend just had it done and 1165 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 2: he was like, God, why would you not just get 1166 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 2: done as preventative? And I was like, you know what. 1167 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 2: The reason I wouldn't is because I know, at some 1168 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 2: point in life I'm going to have to understand that 1169 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 2: my body's aging. I would rather see my body aging 1170 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 2: gradually and gracefully then get to a point where when 1171 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 2: I stopped doing all the boatox and I get to 1172 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 2: the age of seventeen eighty and I'm like, oh God, 1173 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 2: am I seventeen eighty now? Like suddenly the ball drops 1174 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, I'm actually getting old now, And 1175 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 2: sometimes it's well, no, it would be so much harder 1176 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 2: to deal with when you're that age and you haven't 1177 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 2: seen yourself grow old naturally to then get hit by 1178 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 2: it at a point where you're like, actually, no more 1179 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 2: botox is going to help me to look twenty again, 1180 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 2: because I am eighty. And so I think what really 1181 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 2: stops me from getting botox or getting those type of 1182 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 2: treatments is why do I want to have a midlife 1183 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 2: crisis at the age of eighty instead of just enjoying 1184 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 2: my life and like appreciating the years that are coming 1185 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 2: and not worrying about like a line that's on my face. 1186 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 2: And look, I'm on camera a lot, and there are 1187 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 2: times I've seen, of course, from my twenties to now, 1188 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 2: of course I've seen like, oh, like when I smile 1189 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 2: in a picture, I do have lines around my eyes, 1190 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 2: or oh wow, I do have little frown things that 1191 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 2: have shown up, or you know that I've talked to 1192 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 2: you about my malasma that's coming up. But I'm like, 1193 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 2: how much am I going to focus on that rather 1194 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 2: than like the happiness I'm feeling in that picture right, 1195 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 2: or like the fact that I want to do this 1196 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,919 Speaker 2: job and I love sharing a lot of my life 1197 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 2: and a part of me with people, and so I 1198 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 2: think that's my thing. I'm like, I don't want to 1199 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 2: have a crisis later in life. I'd rather have mini crisises. 1200 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 2: As the years go on, every ten year increments, I'm like, Okay, cool, 1201 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm getting ten years older. This is what it looks like, 1202 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 2: and I'm going to work through it. 1203 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more. 1204 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: And I think women were so pushed into this, like 1205 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 1: there's such a you know, for us, it's a lot 1206 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: harder than it is for men. We have to, you know, 1207 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: our hormones change, you know, we have to look good, work, 1208 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, at the same time, and be happy at 1209 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: the same time when her hormones are raging. It's like 1210 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: this expectation of what a woman should look like, and 1211 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: I think that we need to step away from that 1212 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 1: and we need to like live in our own skin 1213 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 1: and really care less about all of those things, you know, 1214 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: because beauty really comes from within, you know, you can 1215 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: really see it in someone, and we need to get 1216 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: back to that. 1217 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 2: And I feel like more it's embraced. It's like the 1218 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 2: more other people feel more comfortable doing it. And I 1219 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 2: really appreciate And whether you've seen Kate Winslet recently going 1220 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 2: onto podcasts and speaking about aging and how beautiful she 1221 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 2: thinks is and then Pamela Anderson going out with like 1222 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 2: no makeup and not doing any surgeries or anything to 1223 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,479 Speaker 2: her skin anymore, and I'm just like, you know what, 1224 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 2: let's make ring Cole sexy again, okay, people? And it 1225 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 2: does not mean when you start getting wrinkles on your 1226 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 2: you're less attractive. And I think that is something that 1227 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 2: women really fall into. Unfortunately, men have it easy. Everyone's 1228 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 2: like it's silver Fox or like in that guy Richard 1229 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 2: Gears getting better and better with age, Brad Pitt, What 1230 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 2: a stud. But as soon as women start aging, it's like, oh, yeah, 1231 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 2: that's a grandma over there. How has this happened? So 1232 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 2: I actually think it is more on us as women 1233 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 2: to show that, like these incredible women have done where 1234 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 2: they're like, you know what, We're just gonna embrace it, 1235 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 2: because what am I saying to the generation below? What 1236 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 2: am I saying to my message? 1237 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 3: Are you giving that right? 1238 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 2: Exactly? And I think the more like when I saw 1239 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 2: Pamela Anderson do that, I was like, she's on a 1240 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 2: red carpet, no makeup, like beautiful skincare at Leicsia Keys. 1241 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 2: All she does is skincare, And I'm like, you know what, 1242 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 2: that has helped me and encouraged me to do the 1243 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 2: same and not want to go into the fads and 1244 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 2: the things that you know, I'm being encouraged to do. 1245 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 2: And so if I can be that person for somebody else, 1246 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I think I'd rather be 1247 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 2: that and i'd rather rather share that message, but I do. 1248 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 2: I also just want to say no judgment out there 1249 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 2: before anybody who's got botox is like getting oh yeah, 1250 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 2: no judgment. It's just walking through my mindset of it, 1251 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 2: because naturally you do have to go through those battles 1252 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 2: when you're living somewhere like this and make a decision 1253 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 2: on which way you want to go. So, okay, great 1254 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 2: botox somewhat preventative, but not really Okay, we've spoken about oils. Now, 1255 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm really interested to hear your thing because I la, well, 1256 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 2: my skin I thought loved oils like I would lather 1257 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 2: my face. I'd look like a glazed donor, like lathering 1258 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 2: myself in as many oils as possible because my dry 1259 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 2: skin really needed this, Like I felt like you needed 1260 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 2: this thick nourishment, and oils was what I thought was working. 1261 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 2: Why are oils like skin oil is not good for 1262 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 2: us to use? 1263 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: Well, think of your skin like a raincoat, right, So 1264 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 1: if you put oil on top of a raincoat, what's 1265 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 1: going to happen? And the water it won't get in, right, 1266 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 1: It's just going to sit on the top. And so 1267 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: if you wear that raincoat out and you're walking around, 1268 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: what's going to attached to that oil that exactly so 1269 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: you're not you're basically blocking the channels in the skin 1270 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 1: for anything to get through. And then you're also sending 1271 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: a signal to the skin saying, hey, listen, you don't 1272 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: need to make any more oil from the sebaceous glands. 1273 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 3: I've got you covered. 1274 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 1: And so the sebaceous glands start working in a wonky 1275 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: way and then tie in the hormonal kick in and 1276 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: the sebaceous glands go, well, wait, there's more hormone. I 1277 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 1: need to start increasing the oil production to kick out 1278 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: this dirt, and so you get this cyclical activity on 1279 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: the skin that actually makes everything worse. So when you 1280 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: take out oil from somebody, they're going to be very 1281 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: mad at you. Initially they're going to say, my skin 1282 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: is super dry now because you're used to that oil 1283 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 1: on the raincoat. 1284 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 3: It's slippery, it moves nicely. 1285 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: And then once it gets used to it and you 1286 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: start using things like holoronic acid, plant stem cells and 1287 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 1: some really nice peptides that are like going to absorb 1288 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: into the skin and give you that natural glow and 1289 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 1: that support that you want from the oil. You won't 1290 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: need the oil anymore, but you'll have to do an 1291 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: oil skin fast. It'll take about two to three weeks 1292 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: or maybe one. I call it a menstrual cycle, a 1293 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 1: whole cycle for women that are cycling, and then they'll 1294 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: get the benefits of it and they'll stop breaking out 1295 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: because that oil is congesting the skin. 1296 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 2: I have to say, you are absolutely right, because I 1297 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 2: did stop. I stopped using thick oils on my skin, 1298 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,959 Speaker 2: and at first my skin felt dry and I felt 1299 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 2: like I just had to keep trying to moisturize it. Yeah, 1300 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 2: but now I wake up and my skin's not like 1301 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 2: thirsty for oil to be put onto it. And so one, 1302 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 2: obviously I increase the amount of water was drinking. But 1303 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 2: now I actually have like I rarely use oils, maybe 1304 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 2: just once in a while, say, like for the smell 1305 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 2: of it and the feeling of. 1306 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: It, but not your body, your body exactly. Skin is fine, 1307 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 1: but the face skin is different. 1308 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree, I've had less breakouts since I've 1309 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 2: stopped using oil. And yeah, the dept is so true. 1310 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 2: You don't realize how much you're accumulating on your skin 1311 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 2: because oil just attracts it, even when you get a 1312 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 2: body massage and suddenly you're like, oh, I just feel 1313 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 2: really if you keep it on for too long and 1314 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 2: oil doesn't really and this it's a thin oil. What 1315 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 2: I realized, it just sits. It doesn't actually absorb, so 1316 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 2: it gives you this illusion of feeling like it's your 1317 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 2: skin is lubricated, but actually it's not actually penetrating the 1318 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 2: skin as well, so you're not actually getting hydrated when 1319 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 2: you're putting oils on. 1320 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 3: I'm so this makes me so happy. 1321 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 2: Now it does. I don't want to admit it, okay, 1322 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 2: but I have to. 1323 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: I remember when I told you you looked at me, 1324 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: like really, I saw these thoughts running through your brain. 1325 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: You're like, I can't use my oils anymore. I love 1326 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 1: my oils. But you know, it's it's only when you 1327 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: do it. Initially it's tough, but then once it's kind 1328 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: of like your sugar. You stop the sugar, you know, 1329 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 1: when you stop these habits that you think are like 1330 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 1: it was part of. 1331 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,160 Speaker 2: Like the luxury of it too. You know, That's what 1332 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 2: I realized. When you're using these like scented oils or 1333 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 2: like these there's something about it that was part of 1334 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 2: my self love routine. So now I do. I still 1335 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 2: do my body massage with oils, but yeah, I've definitely 1336 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 2: taken it off my face, So that makes sense. The 1337 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 2: different type of the masks that people have. So the 1338 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 2: sheet masks there are you know, the liquids that you 1339 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 2: can put on the gel masks, prefer any of them. 1340 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 3: Or I love, I love. 1341 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 1: I personally love the biocellulose sheet masks because my sheet mask. 1342 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 1: What I love about it is the biocellulose. It pushes 1343 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 1: the ingredients in. 1344 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 3: So you just put a. 1345 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: Regular sheet mask on, you lose a lot of those 1346 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: ingredients because again, the skin is very it's hard for 1347 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: things to penetrate in. You have to keep it on 1348 01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: for a bit and you have to have the right 1349 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: technology to push it in. So I love those ones 1350 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 1: with biocellulose. I like some clay masks that's very nice. 1351 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: You know that you can put on too, like if 1352 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: you're having a breakout. 1353 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna say for acne, Yeah, pay masks. I'm 1354 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 2: going to be amazing for acne because they just kind 1355 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,640 Speaker 2: of help to dry out all the seeberm all the 1356 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 2: moisteness that it helps the bacteria grow. 1357 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very detoxifying. So I do love those. I think, 1358 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, different strokes for different folks. I think that 1359 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of great things out there. 1360 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot out there, but you know, 1361 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: it's always good to like read the reviews, talk to 1362 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: your friend, you know. And also, we have different skin types, so. 1363 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,680 Speaker 2: Find out your skin type. I think that is a 1364 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:46,599 Speaker 2: key before anybody tries any kind of skincare because you'll 1365 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 2: see something for oily skin, something for dry skin, something 1366 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,679 Speaker 2: for acne prone skin. But like, go somewhere and find 1367 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 2: out what is your skin type, because I feel like 1368 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 2: there are more types than people think there are. 1369 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 1: There are, and if you have very sensitive skin, you 1370 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,480 Speaker 1: have to make sure you're using less than three ingredients 1371 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 1: in a product because otherwise you're going to react. Even 1372 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,680 Speaker 1: if it's the best product in the world, you know, 1373 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,599 Speaker 1: I won't give my serum to somebody that's super super 1374 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 1: sensitive because there's so many actives in there. So just 1375 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 1: because it's a good product doesn't mean it's a good 1376 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 1: product for somebody that is super allergic or sensitive, because 1377 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 1: it's going to make them worse. 1378 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 2: Your top three worst ingredients that you've seen been put 1379 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 2: into skincare like that people should really watch out for 1380 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,759 Speaker 2: with generic skin care products that they're buying. 1381 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So, yes, this is a good question. There is 1382 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 1: you know, pair bends of course, and you know estrogen 1383 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: mimicking compounds. So when something is too high in soy, 1384 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 1: sometimes it can be you know, estrogen mimicking. So I'll 1385 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:53,759 Speaker 1: see patient's blood results and they're you know, they're urine tests, 1386 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,799 Speaker 1: and I'll see higher estrogens and they're not taking estrogen. 1387 01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 3: So some of these can come from skincare. Wow. 1388 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: So there are some high sort of risks there, and 1389 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 1: I think the colors and the binders and the fillers 1390 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: and all of those kinds of things that have these 1391 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: strong toxic effects on the skin and actually on the 1392 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 1: liver if you take them, you know, in high amounts, 1393 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 1: you know, if you're putting it all over your body. 1394 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,599 Speaker 1: So I think it's really important. There's so much though 1395 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,680 Speaker 1: out there about clean like what is clean? You know, 1396 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: we've we've really hit. 1397 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 2: That the labels be lying, you know. 1398 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think I think there I think really, 1399 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, you have to be able to be discerning 1400 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 1: that way. 1401 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 2: Last one, gloss skin. Is it possible? I know it's 1402 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 2: more of a Korean skincare trend that we talked about. 1403 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 2: Are there certain things that can create that glass skin look? 1404 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:53,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 1405 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 2: You know I kind of have the glass skin going there. 1406 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 2: I have to say, so we need to know what 1407 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 2: skincare you're using. I know it's your product, and then 1408 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 2: what makeup you're using too, because. 1409 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know I use Lived tinted deer. 1410 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, the best. I'm wearing her gloss 1411 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 2: right now. 1412 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm worrying all of it. Yeah, so I do 1413 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,799 Speaker 1: love that makeup. I do think makeup that accentuates your features. 1414 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, really having a good skin 1415 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 1: hygiene routine. 1416 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 2: I know, you know, it is about that, Like you 1417 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 2: have to. 1418 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,639 Speaker 1: Clean your skin, especially after you wake up in the morning. 1419 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 1: It's just like tongue scraping. You've got to do that. 1420 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 1: You to clean your skin and using a really good 1421 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, serum on top and a moisturizer and sunscreen. 1422 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,640 Speaker 3: I really don't think it's. 1423 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,559 Speaker 2: Not the faces. Yeah, I have to say, cleaning your 1424 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,719 Speaker 2: skin is actually really underrated because I used to maybe 1425 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 2: cleanse like at night, but I wouldn't do it in 1426 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,799 Speaker 2: the morning, and then I would start doing after my workouts, 1427 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, the amount of 1428 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 2: stuff that comes out of my paws after I've done 1429 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,440 Speaker 2: a workout. It's like I've been out in the dust. 1430 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 2: And so I think cleaning your skin. I've had way 1431 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,679 Speaker 2: less breakout since doing that. So cleansing almost once twice 1432 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,479 Speaker 2: or even sometimes three times if you're working out in 1433 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,639 Speaker 2: the morning, off your workout and then at night makes 1434 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 2: such a difference. Do you exfoliate a lot or not? 1435 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,600 Speaker 1: Really well, the cleanser has exfoliating features inside it, so 1436 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: I exfoliate gently every but a good peel, like a 1437 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 1: really good peel. I'm using this TCA peel right now 1438 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 1: and I've used it on you before, and it's incredible 1439 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 1: at just like sort of overturning the skin cells and 1440 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:33,600 Speaker 1: giving fresh skin and you know, also encouraging elasticity and 1441 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 1: collagen production. That's a really good habit to be and 1442 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 1: go to your your naturopathic doctor or your esthetician, you know, 1443 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,280 Speaker 1: just go to somebody that really gets your skin and 1444 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 1: can give you like a monthly treatment. I think if 1445 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 1: you can add that, I think over the age of 1446 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: thirty and forty. You can start doing that for yourself. 1447 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 2: Self care, self care. I know I love good facial 1448 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 2: as my self care. Okay, I have last few questions 1449 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 2: for you, and this is going slightly in a different way, 1450 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 2: but I love asking guess this at the end of 1451 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 2: this show. Sure, this is now a show. 1452 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 1: This is a. 1453 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 2: When was the last time you cried? 1454 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, when was the last time I cried? 1455 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 3: I think it was last week? Was it? Yeah? 1456 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 2: Are you a crier or does it take a lot 1457 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,599 Speaker 2: for you to get into tears? 1458 01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 3: I used to be when I was perimenopuzzle. 1459 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 2: It really depends where my homanes are, depends where my 1460 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:28,880 Speaker 2: hormones are. 1461 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I cried last week. 1462 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,679 Speaker 1: My ex mother in law had passed away, so it really, 1463 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, brought back she was such a wonderful human being, 1464 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 1: and so I think I had And it felt really 1465 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 1: good to cry because it was almost like all this 1466 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 1: other trauma was being released as well. So and I 1467 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 1: remember thinking, gosh, you haven't cried in a while, So yeah, 1468 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 1: I think it was. 1469 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 3: It felt really good. 1470 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,680 Speaker 1: After I was a bit drained for the rest of 1471 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 1: the day in the morning of but then I feel 1472 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,519 Speaker 1: like it rebooted me. So I think it's it's something 1473 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to do more often. 1474 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:04,639 Speaker 3: That. 1475 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of crier are you? Are you like 1476 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,759 Speaker 2: a silent and dramatic or are you like a baller? 1477 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:12,760 Speaker 3: Oh? 1478 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,760 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one. I think I'm a silent cry, 1479 01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 1: just like the tears come. 1480 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you'd be a cute cry for sure. 1481 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 2: What emotion do you find difficult to handle in life 1482 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 2: at the moment? 1483 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,360 Speaker 3: For me? Like what emotion can I not or from 1484 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 3: someone else? 1485 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 2: For you? Like, what emotion are you trying to work 1486 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,679 Speaker 2: through at the moment? Like what do you find hard 1487 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 2: to feel within yourself? Well? 1488 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: You know what's so interesting that you said that anger? 1489 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: And I think I'm learning to release to be angry more, yes, 1490 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 1: because I think we're taught to like not be angry. 1491 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 1: And I think if you look at a lot of 1492 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: hormonal problems in women, it's because they're holding in that 1493 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,559 Speaker 1: anger and that race of you know, there's like a 1494 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 1: lot of you know, being a woman as it is 1495 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 1: is like a health hazard, Like we have so much like. 1496 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 3: It really is. 1497 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,800 Speaker 1: You know, we have our hormones, we have you know, inequality. 1498 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's just it goes into a whole other podcast. 1499 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,719 Speaker 1: But I think being able to like authentically be angry 1500 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 1: and let it out so that it's healthy for yourselves. 1501 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 1: You're not keeping it in because there's a lot of 1502 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,560 Speaker 1: things we don't realize. You know, there's so much inequality. 1503 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 1: There's you know, so much discrimination, you know with the 1504 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,479 Speaker 1: skin color, being a woman, you know, all of those 1505 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 1: are against us. So I think that for me being 1506 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 1: able to let that anger out and be present with 1507 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,599 Speaker 1: it and release it, I think that's been really good 1508 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 1: for me. So I would say more I would be 1509 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:49,599 Speaker 1: gravitating towards it. 1510 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's so true. I find I've been, 1511 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, through this podcast. I feel like I've learned 1512 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,160 Speaker 2: a lot about myself. And I think one thing that 1513 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,000 Speaker 2: I have seen that seems prevalent with everyone that sits 1514 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,120 Speaker 2: here is just the idea of wanting to go of emotions, 1515 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 2: like right, we all just want to like process them 1516 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,559 Speaker 2: and let them out of our system, and some obviously 1517 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 2: are harder than others. I think anger is is one 1518 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,879 Speaker 2: that's harder to let go of sometimes or like actually 1519 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 2: express because we mask it in defensiveness or there's so 1520 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,760 Speaker 2: many different masks we can have for our emotions, and 1521 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 2: so sometimes they will be will get so used to 1522 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,800 Speaker 2: them showing up and not realizing what the inner hurt 1523 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 2: actually is, Like where is this reaction? What emotion is 1524 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 2: actually stemming from? And so sometimes I say, Okay, I 1525 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 2: look like I'm angry, but what am I really feeling? Like? 1526 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,679 Speaker 2: I sound like I'm angry, But what am I really feeling? 1527 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,600 Speaker 2: Is it disappointment? Is it her? Is it frustration? 1528 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 3: Like? 1529 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 2: What is this is? Anger is actually a secondary emotion. 1530 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 2: It's never a primary emotion, right, And so like anger 1531 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 2: can be a secondary response to fear. Okay, I'm angry 1532 01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 2: because I feel unsafe or I feel like somebody so 1533 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,520 Speaker 2: my life is unsafe, so I'm going to act aggressively 1534 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,640 Speaker 2: and feel angry. Or anger can come from sadness, but 1535 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to show my sadness, and so I'm 1536 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 2: going to show up in an aggressive way because that 1537 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 2: feels safer for me to show up at it. Right, 1538 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,240 Speaker 2: so many different things that I can root from, But 1539 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 2: anger being a secondary emotion was really interesting for me. 1540 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's good to know. I love that. 1541 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you so much. This was so amazing. 1542 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 2: I feel like we've got so much information out of it, 1543 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 2: and I feel like I really ground you with so 1544 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 2: many questions. But I hope that was useful for everyone, 1545 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 2: And thank you so much for joining me. So nice 1546 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:35,880 Speaker 2: to hear from you. 1547 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Bady