WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Depth Dive 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:17.240 Cowboys. Are you ready for a Break? 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:17.759 Yes? 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:19.640 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:20.400 Absolutely? 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.799 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.000 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.680 right with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:36.880 Derek Eagleton. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.000 It is Wednesday, November twentieth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.720 episode number seventy one. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:49.960 The Break. We are live from the WBC Mortgage studios 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.199 at the Star. We're presented by LG. LG is the 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.840 world's number one OLED TV brand for eleven ues accounting. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.600 See why at LG dot com Forward slash O led Evo. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.320 Nick's not with us today. He's got some responsibilities. He's 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.039 handling an open locker room which is happening right now, 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:06.200 So we'll. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.399 Hold it down for today. We got a lot to 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:08.880 talk about. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.640 We'll talk about the Commander's offense and how they'll match 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.440 up against this Dallas defense. But before we go, there 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.360 lots of injury updates. There are a lot of things 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.040 happening on the injury front. For the Cowboys. And so 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.120 I'm gonna run down a list of guys, Brian, and 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.440 I don't know. There are may be some that we 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.640 have some answers on there, maybe some we've had some 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.679 reports on. Sure, maybe some of you're like, we just 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.040 don't know right now. And that's okay too, Zach, let's 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:34.839 sell it, Zach Martin. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.280 Yeah, he's dealing with a lot of things. Yeah, and 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.440 so that one they're they're a little bit worried about 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.840 this week. Really too many to name all the things 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.000 he's dealing with. And in a way you feel sorry 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.280 for a warrior like that that's just happened to you 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.600 battle through things. But it's like you know, when you ask, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:59.440 it's which one which injury? You know, And so that 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.440 that would be one I think that has a little 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:02.720 concern this week. Yeah. 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.160 I started feeling bad because I forgot who I was 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.280 talking to yesterday and he got me thinking it was 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.880 in the topic about him, and I started thinking, man, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.080 here we are criticizing like how bad he's playing this 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.000 year and probably not knowing to the extent that he's 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.880 actually dealing with all these injuries, and like how much 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:28.200 I mean, clearly is affecting him, but the reason of 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.840 it not really being his fault, and he's just trying 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.960 his best to be out there and do what he 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.919 can despite all these different pains that he's dealing with. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.520 So it's just one of those things that it sucks 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.400 either way because you don't want to see him playing 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.040 that way. But at the same time, it's like, damn, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:47.959 you gotta give credit to and like respect that he's 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.400 actually tried so. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:55.760 Hard show over back ankles, knee. I mean yeah, I mean, 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:59.240 you know, you're better off name in which body parts 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.840 aren't hood as opposed to which ones are hurting, and 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.239 it is. It's compromised him as a player. It really 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.680 really has compromised him. And you know, unfortunately that's uh, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.000 you know, we've we've seen that kind of happen here. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.600 Remember with Travis Frederick a little bit when he had 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.640 the illness and then the next year he tried to 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.960 play and he just wasn't the same Travis Frederick. And 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.040 I kind of feel like that that maybe Zach Martin 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.239 is kind of feeling the same things right now. 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.919 Yeah, you have to you go and listen to Storyline 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.840 with with Nick Eaman and Nick tells his story about 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.760 It's a story that Darren Woodson told him about when his. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.960 Career, when he knew his career was oh yeah, and how. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.280 He's batting through all these injuries and just trying to 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:41.440 get back on the field. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.080 And he had this. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:48.120 Moment with with britt the the athletic trainer here Brown, Yeah, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.000 and and and they were both kind of going through 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.000 these drills and it just wasn't and they both kind 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.480 of looked at each other at the same time, and 0:03:55.640 --> 0:04:00.480 and Darren was like, it's over, ain't it. He was like, yeah, man, yes, 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.240 this is it. And so I think that's the hard 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:07.480 part for any player when you there's you know, father 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.040 times undefeated, right right, and there's comes a time when 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.680 your body just won't let you do it anymore. And 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.320 I'm not trying to prematurely retire Zach Martin. What I 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.159 am saying is yeah, but what I am saying is 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.480 that there's a certain amount of respect that he's we 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.880 have to call what we call what we see when 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.840 we see play, we have to give an opinion, of 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:27.680 an honest opinion about what we're seeing. But at the 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.039 same time, there's a love of respect for that man 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.880 because of what he's done to this point, and then 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.320 you give him deference for the fact that, yeah, it 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.080 might not look great on the field right now, but 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.360 he's battling. He's battling with everything he's got and and 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.279 you just see where it goes from there. You know, 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.480 let's move on. Let's talk about Jake Ferguson. What are 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:46.120 we hearing about him? 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.279 Yeah, I don't think Jake Ferguson's going to play this week, 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.320 and so that that, you know, he came out of 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.600 the game after the interception. We talked about that a 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.840 little bit yesterday and it doesn't look that he's going 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.039 to be okay for this week. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.760 How did you assess Brevin s van Ford and Luke 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:03.800 Schoonmaker this I. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.640 Think it was I think it was a positive game 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:06.960 for both of us because I think both of them 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.919 together had fourteen targets. But you know, span Ford is 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.960 not a great catcher of the football. Schoonmaker has ability 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.159 to catch the football. We've seen him be able to 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.040 do that. He you know, he'll take a hit, you know, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.000 one of his better games. I think as a group together, 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.520 it was one of their better games. When you start 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.599 to talk about the young guys and what they were 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:28.599 able to accomplish. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:29.039 YEP. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:30.480 About Tyler Smith. 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.280 Tyler Smith should be okay this week from what I'm here. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.240 He did say in the locker room afterwards that that 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.440 he felt pretty good. He didn't feel like he was 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.520 he was really that right, So he said he expected 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:42.280 everything he expected. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.560 Yeah, that's the word I got this morning, that they 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:45.960 expected him to be ready to go. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:47.520 Let's talk about Tyler Giden. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.119 Geiden should be okay to go as well. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.800 Yeah, all right, let's talk about Brandon Cooks. 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.360 He both he and Marshawn Neelan they open their twenty 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.040 one day window, either one of them you expect to 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.560 be out there this week or do you think it's 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.640 kind of a open the window, see how it goes. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.680 I think it's an open the window, but we might 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.640 be the point now break glass in case of emergency 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.200 and trying to get guys back to make to make 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.599 up for all the guys you've lost. But my anticipation is, 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.599 once you open that window, I mean it's gonna have 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:18.520 to be you know, practicing, you know, you know, two 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.839 three days it's not you know, well, hey, we'll just 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.000 get them acclimated and even Mike McCarthy said yesterday, when 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.400 you do this, it's when you have these guys back 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.400 or get them back. You're not gonna play sixty plays anyway. 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.000 So I think it's more about the acclamation than it 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.400 is you know, right now, and then we'll see what happens. Man, 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.320 it's unfortunate you got another you know you're gonna have 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:41.080 a short week. You know, maybe it's a maybe you 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.400 sacrifice this week to make sure you have guys for Thursday. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.880 You know, that's that's that's where you're really gonna need 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.000 some healthy bodies if you can, if you can pull 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:49.400 that off. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.359 Yeah, running these games so close together, it's it's a 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.080 difficult injuries. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.960 When you're winning, it's you get into a flow. When 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.600 you're losing, it's like bills coming at you know, when 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:01.360 you when you don't have a job and you don't 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:02.960 have money, bill show. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.400 Up great, analogy bill show up really really fast. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.080 When you've got a really healthy bank account, you're you know, 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.680 you're on time with all your bills. It's like, oh man, 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.680 did I pay that? Oh yeah, I can't. Okay, I 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.080 gotta tell you know. But when you don't have that money, 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.400 it seems like Bill show up every damn day. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.520 We also right now with this one, it's not so 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.440 much the losing aspect of it is the injury part 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.160 of it that you're like, oh my god, like I 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.200 keep getting worried, are we going to have enough players 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.440 to play again? Because they just keep dropping down and 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.720 the I mean, the good thing is like now you 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.160 can put you're potentially gonna start having some of these 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.600 guys back, but you start getting some back and then 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.680 keep adding so you're you're still losing more than what 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.880 you're adding on. So that's just that's concerning there, because 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:49.320 the health of the teams. 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.400 Really does happen to teams that that aren't winning. I mean, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.680 you look at teams that I'm sure that everybody that's 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.600 you know, struggling right now that are you know three 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.200 and seven or four and six or two and whatever, 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.040 you know, I mean, they they everybody's struggling with that 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.520 right now. I Mean, you got the aspect of your 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.080 not playing well, but you've also got the you're dealing 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.160 with the injuries. Those are just that's the thing that's 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.280 even that makes it even worse when you're trying to 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.720 kind of play these games. You're right, Ambar, you look 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.760 up and you know you're using three You know you're 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.120 you're using all three of your activations off the practice 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.160 squad to start a game. You know that's that's really 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:27.880 no way to go. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.200 Let me ask you this this off this is an offshoot. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.560 But let's assume for a second that Cowboys come back 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.480 from they get allowed all these guys back from injury, uh, 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.600 and they start playing really, really well. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.920 Will you be more frustrated or will you be more happy? 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.400 And what I mean by that is frustrated at man, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.160 if they didn't have all these injuries, they'd be in 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.920 a much better position for the season or happy with 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.559 the fact that, Okay, it really was just the injuries. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.600 It wasn't everything else that has been painted as maybe 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:56.280 the problems. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.720 Maybe it was just that they were so bigged up. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:00.880 Which would you get which we did you feel more of? 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.360 I'm not forgetting about those like two first games of 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.960 the season when you have most of your starters still 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:07.400 in there. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:08.800 But let's let's also be clear. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.960 We've seen this happen, not just with the Cowboys, but 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.679 every team in the league. You get started sometimes and 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.120 you lose some games, and then you get going or 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.960 you start really hot sometimes and you fall off, Like 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.160 I don't, I don't know that you would make you 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:24.480 wouldn't necessarily make a determination about an eight a seventeen 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.040 game season off of two or three. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.120 Well, I'm back to you because your point that where 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.079 all the issues stems from is the offensive line, right, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.560 it's all question. I mean there, you have. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.839 Your guys there, so it's just I'm not buying it. 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:42.360 That was the point. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.120 Like for me, I think the problem is still the past. Yeah, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:46.680 but I just want to see how you guys felt 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:46.960 about it. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.760 I think Gambar's right. I think that you know, to me, 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.640 the injuries are a part of this, especially ashen you're 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.200 starting quarterback. I would feel better about it if Dak 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.040 was back or was playing and they played better overall, 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.520 maybe like with the rain. Did you know the Rams 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.720 came here last year, took a loss and then I 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.240 think there were three and three and six at the time, 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.240 and then went on a run, you know, and and 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:09.880 everything kind of then they got you know, got in 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.520 the playoffs and all on. You're kind of like, wow, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.600 you know, you would feel better that way, but no, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.640 they they you know, there's a lot of things that 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.839 are not We're not right about this football team and 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.040 I and I take responsibility too because of the platforms 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.800 I have and talking about it on a daily basis. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:29.679 There's things that you know that you look at and 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.679 you're like, Okay, this looks right, this looks right then, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:36.319 and it really wasn't right. Just as badly as I've misevaluated, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.880 I think the guys and gals across the hall did 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.320 as well. You know, there's things they do the autopsy 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.560 on this season, and likely it's not going to be 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.280 a very good ending, you know, with your starting quarterback 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.360 being out and dealing with all the things you're dealing with. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.600 But when they do the autopsy, they've got to go 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.320 back and look at, Okay, what were the things that 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.360 we really believed in when we went into the season. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.200 I'm not And you know, the possibility of having a 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.560 new coaching staff, if the new if this daft gets 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.720 to come back, you know you have to. You know, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.200 Mike always talks about what we have to do and evaluate. 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.439 You know, you're gonna have to do a real, real 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:12.640 deep evaluation of why you thought certain things were going 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.960 to work. And and that's I think that's where I'm 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.959 at right now with his football team. I do. I 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:19.920 feel bad for fans. I feel like I let him 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.000 down in some ways that you know, talking about players 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:24.719 in a way of like, hey, they're going to rely 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.560 on this guy, and this guy looks okay, and they 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.800 could you know this could be you know, the tight 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.959 end room wasn't good enough, the wide receivers behind Lamb 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.480 weren't good enough, The running back situation wasn't good enough, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.000 the offensive line wasn't good enough. You mean you didn't 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.200 expect the fall off of Martin the way it was. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.040 I mean, I was trying to figure out how A 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.640 and I s Mark slarep this question yesterday on one 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.760 O five three of the Fan. How does a team 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:53.120 that's the second overall seed in the playoffs in the 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.080 NFC turn into a team it's likely going to be 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:57.920 picking in the top five of the NFL draft. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:11:59.320 How does that happen? 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.080 And that's the autopsy that you're gonna have to do 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.400 right now. You're going to have to figure that out. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:05.040 Yeah, you want to know. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.080 One of the interesting things I think that happened here 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.400 is I think this is a situation where none of 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:14.800 the individual players that they lost last year were players 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.840 that we looked at and said, oh my gosh, wow, 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:17.640 what are you gonna. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:18.559 Do about that misvaluation? 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.720 But no, But my point is, I don't know that 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.960 it was a misevaluation. As much as this may have 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:28.680 been a situation where sometimes the individual issues are not 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.600 as big, the cumulative is what becomes the problem. And 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.559 maybe that's the issue, is that they lost so much 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.640 talent that it's more than cumultive. 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.600 It changed the maybe it changed the locker room. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.280 Maybe it changed your ability to absorb some of the injuries, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.160 because I know that's one thing we did talk about. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.680 You didn't really lose a lot of your frontline players. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:48.880 You lost your depth. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.920 And what we're seeing, especially at the defensive end position, 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.280 like if you would have had these injuries, these same 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.240 injuries on the defensive line from the defensive end position 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.360 that you had this year, if you had those last year, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.840 you would have been okay because the depth was there. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.280 You had Dorn's Armstrong, you had Fouler, you had guys 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.800 that you could kind of push up because you had 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.439 such depth. You lost that depth, and so it wasn't 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.600 necessarily that losing those players last year was going to 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.000 be huge. From the standpoint of your frontline starters, it 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.280 was that you lost your depth, and. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.600 The cumulative cumulative of. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.200 All of those losses I think was greater than the 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:24.840 parts individually by themselves. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.960 Well, again, it's why you weren't able to do during 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.160 the off season and during free agency due to the 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.920 lack of money or the cap space that you had, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.319 but also having to rely on all of these younger 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:38.560 talents so. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.880 As a group, because yeah, as a group. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.120 That you had so many, so much young talent, and 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.760 you're just depending on them and betting on them that 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:51.760 they're hopefully all at once be able to surpass and 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.920 avoid that learning curve that naturally needs to happen for 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:00.520 these younger players. But also to your question, what would 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.160 make me happy? You know what would make me a 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.360 little bit happy? It's like, show me something different, try 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.640 something different, be creative, like call different plays, and even 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:13.800 if you fail, I can feel better and be like, Okay, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:14.760 maybe you were right. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.280 We're all crazy here. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.120 You know, if you fail, But if you're wining, it's like, okay, 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:23.160 on you try something, it worked, let's go, and like 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.560 you get it excited about that. So that's the only 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.640 thing at this point that I what would make me 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:36.040 excited is regardless of all the injuries that you're dealing with, Like, 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:40.880 I think maybe you can take a little bit of 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.400 pressure from yourself and just be like, you know, this 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:45.080 is where we're at. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.440 It is what it is. There's no turning back. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.560 Now, you can't do anything but like, let's have fun, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.120 because I think a difference can be seen when you 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.400 switch that mindset and you start just having fun and 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.400 you just accept what you have. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:00.560 Yeah. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.320 I think, based on my own experiences some things that 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.840 I've played or done, when you start having fun, it's 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.680 just it's different, and sometimes that can lead to a 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.800 different outcome because you can take some pressure of yourself. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.200 Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's a really good point. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.680 The thing that that I kind of worry about is, 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.280 you know, in twenty twenty five, you're gonna have another 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.880 big chunk of your talent leaving if you look at 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.400 how this thing is set up. You know, we talked 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:37.040 about Zach Martin, Marcus Lawrence, Brandon Cooks, Trey Lance, Eric Kendricks, 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:42.120 Brian Anger, Jordan Lewis, Cooper, Rush Lynville, Joseph Ezekiel, Elliott 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:46.520 c J. Goodwin, Chuma Doga, Trent c OsO, Diggi Zua. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.040 I'm just going down the list all your free agency, Yeah, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:55.160 Rico Daddle, Chauncey Golsten, Nick Vigill, Carl Lawson, Carlos Watkins, 0:15:55.200 --> 0:16:01.560 brock Hoffman, Israel mcqualmu, Marquis Bell Turpin, jan Ya, Thomas, Tyres, Wheat. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.880 You're gonna have another just another big wave of guys, 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.200 you know. So now you're in a situation where, yeah, 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:13.440 you lost a lot of depth one year, and now 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.920 you're about to lose the second half of that depth 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.600 and depth. Those are some starters. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.960 I mean, you know, we've talked about Martin, you know, 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:27.040 Lawrence Cooks. Those are all voidable contracts right there. You know. 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.800 But yeah, you're gonna lose you know, Uh, Kendrick has 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.400 played a big part. Brian Anger is a punter. Jordan 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.120 Lewis has probably been one of your better defensive players. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:35.840 You know. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:36.240 C J. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.440 Goodwin, they you know, they feel he's their one of 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.680 their best special teams. Guys, you're gonna lose your deep snapper. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.040 You're gonna lose maybe your best three technique and O 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.800 so Diggy Zuwa, you're gonna lose your starting running back 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.480 in Rico Daddle. You're gonna lose Chauncey Golston, who's kind 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.840 of shown that he could be a a you know, 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.520 he could be a guy when he has to start. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.800 You know, it's you're not gonna you're you're not gonna 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.120 be It might not be the best, but it's better 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.680 than you know what you thought it was gonna be. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.240 You know, it's just it's one of those things where 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.280 you kind of look at it and you're going to go, Okay, well, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.960 how do you how do you replace that? Okay? You 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:09.800 know what that turns into. Yeah, you're only going to 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.920 get likely ten draft picks, and then they're going to 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.160 turn around. They're going to sign. They're going to sign 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.280 some guys you know, college free agency. They will They've 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.400 proven that they will spend money to go out. They'll 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.000 give two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to span Ford 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.080 because he's on their draft board, he was a draftable player. 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.359 They'll spend that money. Well, they spend the money in 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.800 free agency. You know, I mean, I'm not asking him 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.680 to play Day one, but they might have to play 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:36.680 in this year, in this draft. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:37.439 I will tell you this. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.320 I think you know what they've what they've done traditionally. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:41.800 They didn't do it this last year. But what they've 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.080 done traditional is they usually sign their own, right. I 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.800 wonder if they go back to that this offseason. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:50.240 To say and will want you back, h Jordan Lewison, 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.520 we want you back, Jordan Lewis, we want you back, 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:54.000 like pick and choose the ones. 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.880 I would I would assume, see we want you back 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.280 like those kind of players. Asume you're going to see 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.160 a litany of those kind of signings where you keep 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.600 those guys because again, you don't want to lose. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.080 You can't lose too much down because you only got 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:06.720 so many picks. 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.040 They did that thing just they they they a lot 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:11.879 of guys went out the door. And I mean I 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.280 can say I just named I named all the guys 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.000 that are eligible to go out the door now. And 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.560