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Speaker 2: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 5: right with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and

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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, November twentieth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 6: episode number seventy one. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 6: Nick's not with us today. He's got some responsibilities. He's

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Speaker 6: handling an open locker room which is happening right now,

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Speaker 6: So we'll.

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Speaker 2: Hold it down for today. We got a lot to

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Speaker 2: talk about.

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Speaker 6: We'll talk about the Commander's offense and how they'll match

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Speaker 6: up against this Dallas defense. But before we go, there

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Speaker 6: lots of injury updates. There are a lot of things

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Speaker 6: happening on the injury front. For the Cowboys. And so

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna run down a list of guys, Brian, and

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Speaker 6: I don't know. There are may be some that we

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Speaker 6: have some answers on there, maybe some we've had some

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Speaker 6: reports on. Sure, maybe some of you're like, we just

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Speaker 6: don't know right now. And that's okay too, Zach, let's

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Speaker 6: sell it, Zach Martin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's dealing with a lot of things. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: so that one they're they're a little bit worried about

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Speaker 3: this week. Really too many to name all the things

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Speaker 3: he's dealing with. And in a way you feel sorry

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Speaker 3: for a warrior like that that's just happened to you

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Speaker 3: battle through things. But it's like you know, when you ask,

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Speaker 3: it's which one which injury? You know, And so that

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Speaker 3: that would be one I think that has a little

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Speaker 3: concern this week. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I started feeling bad because I forgot who I was

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Speaker 4: talking to yesterday and he got me thinking it was

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Speaker 4: in the topic about him, and I started thinking, man,

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Speaker 4: here we are criticizing like how bad he's playing this

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Speaker 4: year and probably not knowing to the extent that he's

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Speaker 4: actually dealing with all these injuries, and like how much

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Speaker 4: I mean, clearly is affecting him, but the reason of

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Speaker 4: it not really being his fault, and he's just trying

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Speaker 4: So it's just one of those things that it sucks

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Speaker 4: either way because you don't want to see him playing

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Speaker 4: that way. But at the same time, it's like, damn,

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Speaker 4: you gotta give credit to and like respect that he's

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Speaker 4: actually tried so.

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Speaker 3: Hard show over back ankles, knee. I mean yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, you're better off name in which body parts

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Speaker 3: it is. It's compromised him as a player. It really

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Speaker 3: you know, we've we've seen that kind of happen here.

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Speaker 3: Remember with Travis Frederick a little bit when he had

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Speaker 3: the illness and then the next year he tried to

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Speaker 3: I kind of feel like that that maybe Zach Martin

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to you go and listen to Storyline

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Speaker 6: with with Nick Eaman and Nick tells his story about

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Speaker 6: It's a story that Darren Woodson told him about when his.

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Speaker 2: Career, when he knew his career was oh yeah, and how.

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Speaker 6: He's batting through all these injuries and just trying to

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Speaker 2: And he had this.

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Speaker 6: Moment with with britt the the athletic trainer here Brown, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and and and they were both kind of going through

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Speaker 6: and Darren was like, it's over, ain't it. He was like, yeah, man, yes,

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Speaker 6: I'm not trying to prematurely retire Zach Martin. What I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Jake Ferguson's going to play this week,

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Speaker 3: and so that that, you know, he came out of

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Speaker 3: little bit yesterday and it doesn't look that he's going

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Speaker 3: Think it was I think it was a positive game

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Speaker 3: one of his better games. I think as a group together,

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Speaker 3: Tyler Smith should be okay this week from what I'm here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the word I got this morning, that they

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Speaker 3: You know, that's that's that's where you're really gonna need

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Speaker 6: Yeah, running these games so close together, it's it's a

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Speaker 3: When you're winning, it's you get into a flow. When

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Speaker 3: When you've got a really healthy bank account, you're you know,

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Speaker 3: it seems like Bill show up every damn day.

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Speaker 4: We also right now with this one, it's not so

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Speaker 3: Really does happen to teams that that aren't winning. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Let me ask you this this off this is an offshoot.

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Speaker 6: But let's assume for a second that Cowboys come back

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Speaker 6: from they get allowed all these guys back from injury, uh,

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Speaker 2: Will you be more frustrated or will you be more happy?

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Speaker 6: And what I mean by that is frustrated at man,

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Speaker 6: if they didn't have all these injuries, they'd be in

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Speaker 6: the fact that, Okay, it really was just the injuries.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't everything else that has been painted as maybe

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was just that they were so bigged up.

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Speaker 2: Which would you get which we did you feel more of?

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Speaker 4: I'm not forgetting about those like two first games of

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Speaker 2: But let's let's also be clear.

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Speaker 6: We've seen this happen, not just with the Cowboys, but

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Speaker 6: every team in the league. You get started sometimes and

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Speaker 6: you lose some games, and then you get going or

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Speaker 6: you start really hot sometimes and you fall off, Like

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Speaker 6: I don't, I don't know that you would make you

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Speaker 6: wouldn't necessarily make a determination about an eight a seventeen

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm back to you because your point that where

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Speaker 4: all the issues stems from is the offensive line, right,

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Speaker 4: it's all question. I mean there, you have.

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Speaker 8: Your guys there, so it's just I'm not buying it.

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Speaker 2: That was the point.

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Speaker 6: Like for me, I think the problem is still the past. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but I just want to see how you guys felt

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Speaker 3: I think Gambar's right. I think that you know, to me,

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Speaker 3: the injuries are a part of this, especially ashen you're

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Speaker 3: And that's the autopsy that you're gonna have to do

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Speaker 2: It changed the maybe it changed the locker room.

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Speaker 2: You didn't really lose a lot of your frontline players.

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Speaker 4: That you had so many, so much young talent, and

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Speaker 8: We're all crazy here.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you fail, But if you're wining, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 8: It is what it is. There's no turning back.

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Speaker 4: Now, you can't do anything but like, let's have fun,

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Speaker 3: You know, it's you're not gonna you're you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: They'll spend that money. Well, they spend the money in

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Speaker 2: I will tell you this.

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Speaker 4: Afford the last That's what I was gonna say. In

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Speaker 4: a certain way after leaving or once free agency hit.

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Speaker 4: It makes me wonder, Okay, who's another one, because I

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Speaker 4: get like Cole Beastley, we're not gonna get into that,

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Speaker 4: and that might be another one that I love being

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Speaker 4: here and then all of a sudden he leaves and

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Speaker 4: you're like, wait, what where is this kind.

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Speaker 6: It's a hard place to play when you talk about

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Speaker 6: the media and fans like expectations are hot.

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Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz's last game for the Cowboys was in the

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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers game in the playoffs, and it wasn't

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Speaker 3: one of his better games. It really wasn't, and I

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Speaker 3: think the fan base really went after him for that,

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Speaker 3: like bro sidelined. You got to care. You know, you're

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Speaker 3: not going for the ball, You're not trying to get upfield,

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Speaker 3: You're not you know. There were a lot of things

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Speaker 3: and he immediately. I know, I got blocked on him,

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Speaker 3: blocked by him. One of his better blocks. He got

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Speaker 3: me on Twitter shuts. Yeah, So I mean literally, you know,

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Speaker 3: And I was and I was very critical of him

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Speaker 3: because I was thinking, man, you've got to be better

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Speaker 3: as a point of attack. He still struggles as a

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Speaker 3: point of attack blocker. You watch him play against the tech.

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Speaker 3: He is who he is. There's times where he's a

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Speaker 3: really good football player and in other times he's just

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Speaker 3: very ordinary, you know. And so he took it very

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Speaker 3: personal when people were calling him very ordinary. You know,

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Speaker 3: that wasn't his you know, that wasn't his bag. He's like, no,

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Speaker 3: you can't criticize me. I'm gonna block you. Okay, congratulations,

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Speaker 3: you actually got a block.

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Speaker 6: And I think for some players, the spotlight of playing

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Speaker 6: you do have to take a lot of criticism, like yeah,

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Speaker 6: and it comes from a lot of different points. And

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Speaker 6: I don't think every player yet, I don't think every

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Speaker 6: player wants necessarily deal with that. You go and play

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Speaker 6: in the city where it's not as bright, and let's

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Speaker 6: be clear, like Houston is maybe one of those kind

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Speaker 6: of franchises where maybe it's not as bright. Everybody in

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Speaker 6: And I just don't think that's Dallas. That's not Dallas.

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Speaker 6: And so that's the part where I look at it

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Speaker 6: for some of these players, and to your point in

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Speaker 6: but I think they leave, they go other places, and

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Speaker 6: they can be another places where they're like, you know,

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Speaker 6: this is just better for my own mental health because

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Speaker 6: I don't like having to listen to people criticize me

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Speaker 6: in that way. You know, that's just my personal poll.

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Speaker 8: Take it out on the fans, not on the team.

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Speaker 8: I mean, but again, we don't.

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Speaker 4: Know what some of those relationships were like in that

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Speaker 6: The He might be unhappy that they didn't make a

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Speaker 6: could also be a part of it, right, So again,

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Speaker 6: there's lots of things involved there. But we're gonna take

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Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about the commanders. We'll start with

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Speaker 6: this offense. Jaden Daniels checked us out. In the first

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Speaker 6: eight games of this season, he was averaging nine rushing

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Speaker 6: attempts per game fifty one rushing yards per game. Over

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Speaker 6: the last two games now he's only averaging five rush

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Speaker 6: attempts per game and only averaging eleven point five rush

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Speaker 6: yards per game. My question is, is in your study,

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Speaker 6: is that more about the injury or do you think

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Speaker 6: there's been something that's that's maybe even about the opponents

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Speaker 6: that they've played. They've played Pittsburgh and Philly the last

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Speaker 6: two weeks. Maybe it's the opponent. What do you think

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Speaker 6: is the reason why there's less rushing by Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 3: I think that I think that dan Quinn probably went

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Speaker 3: into Cliff Kingsbury and said, listen, stop running the dude.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get it killed.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only chance we got is with this young

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Speaker 3: quarterback in and he has been outstanding. He is he's

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Speaker 3: deadly accurate throwing the ball. Uh, he doesn't turn over

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Speaker 3: the ball. He has the ability to make you miss

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Speaker 3: in the pocket. When he's been sacked, it's it's generally

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Speaker 3: been pretty quick. They've they've had some problems, you know,

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Speaker 3: at the left tackle spot. Brandon Coleman is a rookie,

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Speaker 3: and you know him and Cornelius Lucas have kind of

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Speaker 3: switched some spots there, but they've played they've played this

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Speaker 3: rookie Coleman, and he's and he's had some trouble on

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Speaker 3: that left side him him and then you know, I

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Speaker 3: think some other areas in that offensive line that have

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Speaker 3: given up some pressures, but Coleman's the one that seems

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Speaker 3: to have the most problems. And where he has problems,

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Speaker 3: it's very similar to where and I know we're talking

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Speaker 3: about the quarterback, and I'm gonna get to it how

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Speaker 3: this affects the quarterback because Coleman's with these guys that's

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Speaker 3: got some some terrence steel to him that he really

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Speaker 3: can't handle the inside rush all day. That well, me personally,

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Speaker 3: I'm taking Micah Parsons and I'm running him as hard

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Speaker 3: as I can into the inside there. Maybe cover the

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Speaker 3: cover the left guard Alligretti, then Nick Alligretti the left guard,

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Speaker 3: cover him so you can't double or can't help him,

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Speaker 3: and just see if Parsons can win one on one

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Speaker 3: because it's been quick pressure, quick sacks. Because if you

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Speaker 3: let Daniels kind of float around back there and and

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Speaker 3: and and survey the field. You know he's gonna find

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Speaker 3: guys that are open, but he wants to get rid

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Speaker 3: of the ball quick. That's that's the whole thing. Like,

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Speaker 3: you know, he's like an eighty percent passer when that

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Speaker 3: ball comes out like at two point five or better.

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Speaker 3: So you make him hold the ball a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: That's a little bit of a that's a little bit

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Speaker 3: of an advantage to you. But Brandon Coleman, number seventy

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Speaker 3: four of the left tackle is the one that struggled

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Speaker 3: the most. Again, they've all given up pressures and it

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Speaker 3: affects the Daniels a little bit. And I say he's

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Speaker 3: been dealing with a little bit of that that rib

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Speaker 6: One other thing that jumped out to me, and this

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Speaker 6: was again about Jayden Daniels running the ball. Three of

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Speaker 6: the four games that they've lost this year, he was

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Speaker 6: held under three point seven rush yards per tempt. That

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Speaker 6: was against Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore. Cincinnati was the only exception.

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Speaker 6: They end up losing that game.

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Speaker 2: Thirty eight to thirty three. How teams limited his rushing because.

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Speaker 6: It feels like that's a big part of being able

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Speaker 6: to limit their office if you can keep it from

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Speaker 6: running the ball. Not that he's not going to be

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Speaker 6: able to get his in the passing game, but we'll

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Speaker 6: get the receivers in a second. Those receivers leave a

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Speaker 6: little bit to be desired, in my opinion. So if

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Speaker 6: you can stop him from being multi dimensional, that gives

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Speaker 6: you I think it had an advantage.

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Speaker 2: How have teams stopped him when theyve stopped him FM running.

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Speaker 3: His best runs are out the right side.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what's.

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Speaker 3: Happened is that if he's comfortable taking the ball and

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Speaker 3: he sees it breaking down, or they run these design runs.

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Speaker 3: And early in the year it was a lot of

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Speaker 3: design runs and now not so much. Maybe it's more

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Speaker 3: about scrambles or feeling pressure and all that. Because he

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Speaker 3: wants to throw out of the middle of the pocket.

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Speaker 3: All his tds are from the middle of the pocket,

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Speaker 3: none of them are from the outside running. You would

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Speaker 3: think a guy that's that athletic, and I remember, you know,

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Speaker 3: from my days at LSU, it was like he could

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Speaker 3: get outside and throw the ball and then throw it

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Speaker 3: down the field. But all his touchdowns have all been

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Speaker 3: from the middle of the pocket. So and what he's

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Speaker 3: done is he's really good at running out the right side.

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Speaker 3: So what he does is that's in going back. That's

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Speaker 3: the vision, that's you know, he's looking and then he

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Speaker 3: sees it and go. Teams have done a better job

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Speaker 3: of not allowing him to escape route. You know, they

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Speaker 3: kind of overplayed him a little bit. Like you know,

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Speaker 3: is when he drops back, hey, don't lose contain on

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Speaker 3: our defensive left side, keep him, keep him down. Now

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Speaker 3: he'll throw it in the pocket, like I mentioned, But

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Speaker 3: if you're going to get pressure on him and keep

654
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Speaker 3: him in the pocket, his avenue has been the majority

655
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Speaker 3: of his snaps not out the left side of the pocket.

656
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Speaker 3: It's been out the right side of the pocket. So

657
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Speaker 3: teams have done a better job keeping him squeezing him

658
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Speaker 3: in there and then and not allowing him that scape,

659
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Speaker 3: that escape route that he's had in the previous weeks.

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Speaker 6: All Right, I mentioned the receivers. Terry McLaren, as we know,

661
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Speaker 6: is a real big threat for them. Yeah, he leads

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Speaker 6: them in receptions with forty eight and receiving yard with

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Speaker 6: seven hundred and twenty one.

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Speaker 2: I think having a stellar year. Now he's finally got

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Speaker 2: a quarterback, right, Yeah, but we've always.

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Speaker 6: Seen that even with back quarterbacks. Terry McLaren is a

667
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Speaker 6: scary dude, scary quarter yeah, but with a quarterback he's

668
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Speaker 6: even scarier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: That being said, what other receivers on this roster should

671
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Speaker 6: the Cowby's Cowboys be concerned about?

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Speaker 3: You know, I feel like that. You know, we've all

673
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Speaker 3: familiar with Noah Brown from the cap I mean, he

674
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Speaker 3: Noah is. It's funny, the only touchdown reception he has

675
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Speaker 3: this year was the Hail Mary. Yeah, that's the only

676
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Speaker 3: one he's had. Uh, Noah Brown is still very capable.

677
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Speaker 3: Luke McCaffrey has done a really nice job as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm a rice player former.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and you know he's a Christian, McCaffrey's brother,

680
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Speaker 3: and you know it was converted converted a quarterback and

681
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Speaker 3: then into a wide receiver and has done a really,

682
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Speaker 3: really nice job for them. I'll tell you what. Here's

683
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Speaker 3: here's a blast from the past. Though you talk about

684
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Speaker 3: with Zach Ertz has been okay, I know he's not

685
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Speaker 3: a wide receiver, he's a tight end. But that's where it.

686
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Speaker 3: You know, when you look at the second most targets

687
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Speaker 3: and the second most receptions on this team, it's been

688
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Speaker 3: zach Ertz has been. So what you're going to get

689
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Speaker 3: is McLaren is really good as a vertical player. We've

690
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Speaker 3: seen that. I mean, they the one thing that of

691
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Speaker 3: all the opponents the Cowboys have had this year, Jalen

692
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Speaker 3: Daniels throw is the best deep ball. So that's Terry

693
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Speaker 3: McLaurin making it on the on the fly, on the go,

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Speaker 3: on the go routes. That's that's a big part of

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Speaker 3: their offense. But they also run those intermediate routes. But

696
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Speaker 3: we talk about ten to nineteen yards kind of in

697
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Speaker 3: that area, you see a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 3: McLaren is his ability to cross and play in that

699
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Speaker 3: and that zach Ertz has also played in that area too.

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Speaker 3: So when they don't go to McLaren or they go

701
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Speaker 3: to McCaffrey or Brown, it's going to be zach Ernz.

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Speaker 3: But I kind of feel like that to me, zach

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Speaker 3: Ertz is not the most athletic guy. There was a

704
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Speaker 3: time when he was a hard stop. When when he

705
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Speaker 3: was at Philly, he was a hard guy to stop.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't run as well, but man, he still catches

707
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Speaker 3: the ball really really well. So find a way to

708
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Speaker 3: be alert about about McLaren, be worried about him. But

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Speaker 3: then the next thing you might need to take care

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Speaker 3: of his zach Ertz. And then like, okay, if Noah

711
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Speaker 3: Brown and Luke McCaffrey are going to beat you in

712
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Speaker 3: this game, then that's tip your cap. That's kind of

713
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Speaker 3: where that's at though. But they they.

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Speaker 2: Take the chances.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, but Dallas is you know, Dallas has made

716
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Speaker 3: pretty average receivers look good too at times. I mean

717
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Speaker 3: they have not they have not covered well in the

718
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Speaker 3: middle of the field. They've you know, they they're playing

719
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Speaker 3: with guys, like I say, they're you know, you know

720
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Speaker 3: nothing against you know, Butler guys like that. But that's

721
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Speaker 3: that's who they played. Carson guys. They've played guys that

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Speaker 3: have young guys that have struggled a little bit and

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Speaker 3: coverage and you know, and and if you're a starting

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Speaker 3: caliber wide receiver for the Washington Commanders and you're lining

725
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Speaker 3: up against you know, Butler, you've got a chance to

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Speaker 3: get separation and make a cash.

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Speaker 4: You just feel with Dan Quinn being the head coach,

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Speaker 4: I just feel like he's gonna find the way to

729
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Speaker 6: Well, actually, that's that was gonna be the next question.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna take our break and when we come back,

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Speaker 6: I'm ask you guys, how much how much does that

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Speaker 6: of knows them really well, how much does that matter

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Speaker 6: into this this matchup. We'll talk about that when we

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Speaker 6: Mortgage Studios.

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Speaker 2: At the Star.

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Speaker 6: We're talking about the Washington offense versus the Dallas defense

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Speaker 6: and Amber you t this up before the Break, but

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Speaker 6: dan Quinn's familiarity with this defense, in my opinion, could

803
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Speaker 6: be a challenge for them, because if anyone knows, how

804
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Speaker 6: do you mess with a guy like Michael Parsons, how

805
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Speaker 6: do you mess with a guy like Trayvon Diggs.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think he knows because.

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Speaker 6: Those guys, Yeah, and so how much do you think

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Speaker 6: in this instance, this this map, do you think that

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Speaker 6: that will be a challenge for Dallas because of his familiarity.

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Speaker 4: A lot, Like he's a guy that knows his players,

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Speaker 4: Like he's a guy that was very hands on, very

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Speaker 4: in there and involved with all these players. So I

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Speaker 4: fully trust that he knows all these guys. Granted, there

814
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Speaker 4: are guys that he hasn't worked with in the past,

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Speaker 4: but some of those players that you mentioned, they're still here.

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Speaker 8: And I think.

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Speaker 4: He will know exactly where their weaknesses are and how

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Speaker 4: to get to them and exploit that. So I do

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Speaker 4: think he is in a more favorable position this week

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Speaker 4: when coming up against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: You could say it on the flip side too, though

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Speaker 3: dan Quinn was here, Joe Witt was here. You know,

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Speaker 3: you kind of have an understanding, maybe Mike McCarthy, if

824
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer actually want to do. Yeah, Brian Schottenheimer actually

825
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: started before he was the offensive coordinator here. He was

826
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Speaker 3: working with the defensive staff for the whole entire year,

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Speaker 3: working for dan Quinn, breaking stuff down, breaking film down.

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Speaker 3: If anybody has an idea of what dan Quinn's gonna

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Speaker 3: do against certain formations and certain looks, I sure hope

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Speaker 3: that Brian Schottenheimer has that same type of knowledge. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean I think there's a you know

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Speaker 3: you kind of everybody kind of goes, ah, it's not

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Speaker 3: that big of a don't no. In a way, it

834
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Speaker 3: is a big deal because you do. To me, and

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Speaker 3: we've seen a lot of teams that are really good

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Speaker 3: at this, they take advantage of your bad players, or

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Speaker 3: they if they know, you know, if they know guys

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Speaker 3: are not very good, or they'd have weaknesses in certain areas.

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Speaker 3: You don't think Dan Quinn has an understanding of how

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Speaker 3: to attack Michael Parsons. He dealt with it for three years.

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Speaker 3: You know, He's like, Hey, I watched Philadelphia do this.

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00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: I watch San Francisco do this. I watched you know,

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Speaker 3: this is what we had to do. And I think

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Speaker 3: if you're the d if you're Mike Zimmer and those guys,

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Speaker 3: I think you have to be ready for that. You know,

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00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: I have to think you have to be ready. I

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Speaker 3: think this is where Al Harris comes into to play

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Speaker 3: for you here. Yeah, because Al Harris is a holdover

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Speaker 3: from the old staff. You know, Al sat in those

850
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Speaker 3: meetings every single day with Dan Quinn talking about personnel.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's kind of a I think it's

852
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: a little bit of a two way street in this

853
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: particular game. Hey, let's be honest, though, the the the

854
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: Commanders have more talent available to him now than any

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Speaker 3: other point in time since they played the Cowboys. You'd

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Speaker 3: have to go back to the you know, maybe the

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Speaker 3: Robert Griffin, you know, the Third Days, where you know

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Speaker 3: the talent. Dallas has always had the better talent in

859
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Speaker 3: a lot of ways, but in this particular matchup, because

860
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: of injuries and things like that the Commanders are clearly

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Speaker 3: the better team when you when you look at talent,

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Speaker 3: and we'll coaching take advantage of the better talent. You know,

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Speaker 3: the good ones do ye.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's let's flip back.

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Speaker 6: I want to talk about the running backs. We haven't

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Speaker 6: gotten to them yet. Brian Robinson, Austin Eckler. You're gonna

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Speaker 6: have to handle two backs this week. Tell me what

868
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Speaker 6: each one does best, and and then tell me how

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Speaker 6: you you would go about trying to defend them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing with with Brian Robinson is that he

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Speaker 3: is He's a really good inside runner. So not to

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Speaker 3: say that he can't bounce it outside. I think Austin

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Speaker 3: Eckler is a little bit better about getting it to

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Speaker 3: the corner. But Brian Robinson is a little bit more

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Speaker 3: attack your attacking over the left tackle or tackle, excuse me,

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00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: attack you between the guard and the tackle. That's kind

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Speaker 3: of his way of running the football. He's a hand

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Speaker 3: it to him and get downhill quick.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He can bounce it to the outside, but I think

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Speaker 3: that you're going to have to be able to not

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Speaker 3: allow him just to have those straight shots, those dive

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Speaker 3: shots that they take where you know he gets the

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Speaker 3: ball and the next thing you know, it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a second and four. You know he's running for six yards.

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Speaker 3: So he's a really tough guy. Austin Eckler is a

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Speaker 3: really tough guy too. I will say this though, if

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Speaker 3: you can get these guys in passing situations, and we

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Speaker 3: talked about how accurate Jayden Daniels could be, but they've

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00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: had problems with blitz pickups. Austin Eckler has had problems.

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00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: He is never sure of who he's supposed to get.

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00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: He's kind of a like a am I supposed to block?

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Speaker 3: Or am I supposed to get out in the flat?

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00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: Now you could throw him the ball in the flat.

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Speaker 3: He leads their team and run after catch. You know.

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Speaker 3: That's that's something that's really really big for them. So there,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you find a way, if you can

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Speaker 3: get your rushers on Austin Eckler in the pocket, there's

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Speaker 3: a chance for pressure or there's a chance for sack

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Speaker 3: because he struggled in that area. But but they're both

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Speaker 3: really quality backs. At Robinson Is he's missed a couple

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Speaker 3: of games. I mean, but he is so tough running

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Speaker 3: the ball, you're gonna you hand it to him. It's

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Speaker 3: a pile. It's a five yard game. It seems like

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Speaker 3: it's the way every time you watch the tape playing

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Speaker 3: this guy and around the goal line. He's extremely tough

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you look at this last game against Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 6: Joe Mixon put up twenty carries for one hundred and

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Speaker 6: nine yards a five point five average.

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Speaker 3: Forty five of that was one carry.

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Speaker 6: It was, it was, and then there was also two

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Speaker 6: receptions for forty four yard. You had total hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty three yard greens. Here's my question for you, based

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Speaker 6: on what we saw in that game, what were the

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Speaker 6: areas where you think Dallas or how did you assess

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Speaker 6: Dallas's run defense against Mixing and do you think there's

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Speaker 6: something that can carry over from that into this matchup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing with Mixing is everything was going to bounce,

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Speaker 3: you know, and it was he was going to attack

921
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Speaker 3: you front side, and then as soon as the play

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00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: looked like it was stopped, he was going to bounce

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Speaker 3: it outside. And then on the forty five yard run.

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Speaker 3: They were just bad at the you know, they they

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Speaker 3: they got what they wanted with Parsons and those guys

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Speaker 3: squeezing it and forcing it back to the inside. But

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Speaker 3: the cut, the cut was so perfect that you know

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Speaker 3: Golston got knocked down.

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Speaker 2: That was the play where Golston y.

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Speaker 3: Israel mcwamu was out of position and then Hooker was

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Speaker 3: a terrible angle and next you know, it's a forty

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Speaker 3: five yard touchdown. When Dallas is bad in run defense,

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Speaker 3: it's usually mistackles. It's that you know, when they get

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Speaker 3: bodies to the ball, they can get a guy down

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Speaker 3: on the ground. But the problem is they'll at the

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Speaker 3: worst times, they'll miss tackles. And I think this is

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Speaker 3: where Robinson and Eckler can maybe cause you some problems.

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Speaker 3: These are, like I said, they're two tough runners, but

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Speaker 3: here here's you know, they're coming right at you coming downhill.

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Speaker 3: That's a little bit different than the guys they've had

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Speaker 3: to deal with. They've had a little bit more quickness

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Speaker 3: to them. These guys run with a little bit more power,

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Speaker 3: and I think Mixing was kind of the same way.

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Speaker 3: But you take away that forty five yard run, you

945
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Speaker 3: kind of had to feel good about what they did

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Speaker 3: against him, and not.

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Speaker 6: All that was a pretty good day. Yeah standpoint, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: From that standpoint. Yeah, but when Dallas is bad playing

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00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: run defense, they they get knocked out of position and

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Speaker 3: then they also struggle with tackling. And we've known that

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Speaker 3: and we've seen it, and that's that's kind of what

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Speaker 3: I always worry about, you know, in these games when

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Speaker 3: you have quality running backs.

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Speaker 2: All Right, that's the wrap. We will be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: We will jump into Dallas's offense versus the Washington defense,

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Speaker 6: and we'll talk about all that, all those topics tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Until then for Brian brought us, Amber Garciam Derek Eagleton.

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