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Speaker 1: To lead it off from the great State of Florida.

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Speaker 1: The question, I struggle to understand why Clemson is still

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Speaker 1: the college football public. And I think that that will

427
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Speaker 1: probably overwhelm some people compared to what you expect the

428
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Speaker 1: reaction to be. I mean, I think it will completely

429
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Speaker 1: and totally get wall to wall coverage. I think it'll

430
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Speaker 1: get mainstream news coverage. So I think whether you turn

431
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Speaker 1: on Sports Center or the NBC Night News, you will

432
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Speaker 1: see that Nick Saban is retired. There aren't many figures

433
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: like that in sports, and there are especially not many

434
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Speaker 1: figures like that in college football. Now. I hope that

435
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: this is a long ways down the road, but whenever

436
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Speaker 1: it happens, as it pertains to on the field matters,

437
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: let me tell you what else I think it'll do.

438
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: I think it'll immediately inject more competitive balance into the

439
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Speaker 1: landscape of the sport. And I think a segment that

440
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Speaker 1: we did last week on Late Kick Live will prove

441
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Speaker 1: to be true. You'll realize all of a sudden, no

442
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: team is dominating, there's some really good teams. There's still

443
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Speaker 1: a Tier one, but it'll totally be redefined, like there

444
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Speaker 1: was a Tier one before Saban got Tobama, but that

445
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Speaker 1: was during a stretch where we had ten different championship

446
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Speaker 1: teams in a twelve year period, so we had different

447
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: teams contending, we had different teams capable of winning. We'll

448
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Speaker 1: have that again when he leaves. And what you'll look

449
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 1: around and realize is we made all this commotion, We

450
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Speaker 1: demanded all this change in the sport, and unfortunately, in

451
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Speaker 1: my opinion, got a lot of it, and all we

452
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Speaker 1: needed was him to retire this whole time. It turns

453
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Speaker 1: out college football really did just have a Nick Saban

454
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Speaker 1: problem problem in air quotes for those listening on podcasts,

455
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Speaker 1: I think it will be a landmark day in the

456
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Speaker 1: history of the sport if and when he retires, And

457
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Speaker 1: then the great unknown is what's he going to do?

458
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Speaker 1: We're recording this in a week where it was just

459
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Speaker 1: announced that Tom Brady, when he retires, will step into

460
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Speaker 1: the number one lead analyst role for Fox NFL in

461
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: the broadcast booth for about twenty to twenty five million

462
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Speaker 1: a year. By the way, so good for Tom. It

463
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Speaker 1: really calms my nerves that he won't be hurting from money.

464
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Speaker 1: But also, what's Nick Saban going to do? There has

465
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Speaker 1: long been rumor in our world that there's an offer,

466
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Speaker 1: there are multiple offers waiting for him. That's just kind

467
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Speaker 1: of not even speculated. It's just kind of known in

468
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Speaker 1: our world that there are offers I would imagine, and

469
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Speaker 1: I'm not confirming this, This is speculation on my part.

470
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Speaker 1: I would imagine there's a pretty popular Saturday morning college

471
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Speaker 1: football show that has a chair waiting for him and

472
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Speaker 1: probably has a check with a blank in the dollar

473
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Speaker 1: amount that he can just fill in anytime he wants to.

474
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Speaker 1: So I think just as much as it's interesting what

475
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Speaker 1: it would do to the sport, I think it's interesting

476
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Speaker 1: what he would do because he can really choose to

477
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Speaker 1: do whatever he wants to, including perhaps co hosting an

478
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Speaker 1: episode or two of Late Kick. We'll see, well, you

479
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Speaker 1: know how our policy is with guests, so we'll see.

480
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Speaker 1: I will say this though, like Nick Saban's good at

481
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Speaker 1: many things. He's very good at coaching, he's very good

482
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Speaker 1: at leadership. But I don't even know if he's good

483
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Speaker 1: enough to do this. We'll be right back. Victim mentality.

484
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Speaker 1: A lot of people pooh pooh it, but every single

485
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Speaker 1: one of you has it because not a one of

486
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Speaker 1: you knew that ad toss was coming. If you say

487
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Speaker 1: you did, you're lying. You know it. I know it.

488
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Speaker 1: Don't do that because I know this is a tough scene.

489
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Speaker 1: Back to back episodes of Late kick extra. This is

490
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Speaker 1: a tough scene. It's tough bird for all of you

491
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Speaker 1: to bear. But it's talent. It's talent. Barry Bonds was

492
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Speaker 1: disproportionately blessed to be able to hit a baseball a

493
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Speaker 1: long way. I have been disproportionately blessed to sneak an

494
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Speaker 1: ad toss in on you without anyone knowing way in

495
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Speaker 1: on your hands to steal a baseball term. So it's okay,

496
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Speaker 1: let's get back to matters that we can all agree on.

497
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Speaker 1: Gator Fan underscore actual asks. Do you think that we

498
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Speaker 1: will see locker room turmoil when the nil giants don't produce?

499
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 1: We should probably trademark nil giants, by the way, so

500
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Speaker 1: he says, will we see some turmoil when they don't produce?

501
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: But the average Jimmy and Joe does. But Jimmy and

502
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: Joe are not getting nil money, So what do we

503
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Speaker 1: think about that? I think that this has always happened,

504
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Speaker 1: and we're going with the classic bo Nicks with a

505
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Speaker 1: box of Bojangles in front of him and Bryce Young

506
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Speaker 1: with some Quizzino's as I talk about this or Subway,

507
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm bad, my bad Subway. So I think it's always happened.

508
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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, I think we've

509
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: always had locker room turmoil. I think the only currency

510
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: is attention, because really it's not so much are you

511
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: getting advertising dollars, it's what that means. It means some

512
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: guys are getting more attention than other guys. That's what

513
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: rubbed some folks the wrong way. But as I said,

514
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: when NIL first started being floated, and now that we've

515
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Speaker 1: gotten into it, I didn't believe then and I don't

516
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: believe now that NIL was going to disrupt any locker

517
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: room that wasn't already prone to being disrupted without NIL.

518
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Speaker 1: Nil is not the determining factor. Poor culture is the

519
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: determining factor. I know that because we've had locker rooms

520
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: fracture and come apart long before NIL ever came around.

521
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: You could say to yourself, yeah, okay, but that's because

522
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: there were one hundred dollars handshakes and under the table

523
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Speaker 1: payments happening before then. Okay, okay, you can't prove that,

524
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, we all know that happened. But my point is,

525
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Speaker 1: I'll play Devil's advocate with you. Let's say everything you're

526
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Speaker 1: alleging is true. You just made my point for me,

527
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Speaker 1: didn't you? You told me there was already cash and

528
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Speaker 1: payment system in place beforehand, And some guys who were

529
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: good were getting more attention than other guys who weren't

530
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: proceeded to be as good or valuable. And some teams

531
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Speaker 1: were able to win and chug merrily along with that formula,

532
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: and other teams got ripped apart it the seams, And

533
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: so what determined that? What was the determining factor? What

534
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: in the money? Some programs had it and they were fine.

535
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Speaker 1: Other programs had it and they imploded on themselves like

536
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Speaker 1: a dying star. So what was the determining factor? Culture

537
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: is the determining factor. It goes back to that whole

538
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: good soil bad soil thing. You got good soil doesn't

539
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: guarantee a thing, but if you've got bad soil, it

540
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: does guarantee something, and it's not a good thing that

541
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Speaker 1: it guarantees. So yeah, I think you're gonna have some

542
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Speaker 1: big name players get some big money, and some of

543
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: them are gonna go places and they're gonna shine, and

544
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: every one of their teammates will talk them up and

545
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: tout them, and they'll talk about how they're a team player.

546
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Speaker 1: And then other places, you'll see that five star guy

547
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Speaker 1: that signed a six or seven figure deal go down

548
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Speaker 1: in the middle of a game, and you'll see tamates

549
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: around him and none of them be quick to help

550
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: him up, and you'll know, oh, boy, well that stood out,

551
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: didn't it. That's always the tell, by the way, when

552
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: you see a guy score a touchdown, how quickly do

553
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: the teammates rush to him to celebrate with him? Or

554
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: when you see a guy down on the ground, how

555
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: quick are his teammates to pick him up? Now, if

556
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: you've ever played, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

557
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: But if you haven't played, still makes a lot of

558
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: sense to you, doesn't it. Those are the tells it's

559
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: not in It's not at SEC or Big ten media days.

560
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: When a reporter asks, Hey, what do you think about Jeff,

561
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: what do you think about Steve? What do you think

562
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: about Dominique? Everybody's going to say what they're supposed to

563
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: in that setting, cause they've been coached how to talk.

564
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: But when it's real and it's genuine, it's just authentic,

565
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: and it's in the middle of the heat of battle,

566
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: you find out how someone feels about their teammates, and

567
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Speaker 1: I am not mentioning names. I'm just not going to

568
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: do it. Sorry, But I remember it was a pretty

569
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: big deal a couple of years ago. When I'll tell

570
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Speaker 1: you who it was, it was Spencer Ratler. It was

571
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: either he last year. A couple of years ago, there

572
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: was a play. A lot of people pointed this out.

573
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Speaker 1: He goes down. I want to say, he may have

574
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Speaker 1: even scored a touchdown, but he's on the ground and

575
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: he gets up in that no one celebrated with him. Really.

576
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: Now it goes to show you that what we ended

577
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: up hearing about some of the internal dynamics at Oklahoma

578
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: were probably true. I don't think that's just anecdotal. I

579
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: think there probably was a lot going on behind the

580
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: scenes there. Now, for his part in all that, I

581
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: think he's better for it, and I think even if

582
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: he's not, he has a chance to be better for it.

583
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: At South Carolina. He's not eighty five years old. Okay,

584
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: he's still a college kid. So maybe he did make

585
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: a mistake or three in the way he handled himself

586
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma or handled himself in high school. Well, you

587
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: know what would be a really good story is for

588
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: South Carolina to win nine games this year led by

589
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler, who contends for all SEC honors, and then

590
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: in the postseason interview, Circuit steps to a microphone and says,

591
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Speaker 1: you know, I figured some things out in the process

592
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Speaker 1: of coming here. I'm so glad that it happened. I

593
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't change a thing. That would be a very happy

594
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: ending for that story. But it also illustrates the point

595
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: I was making. Watch for that kind of stuff. If

596
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: you want to know what NIL is doing to a

597
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: locker room, or you want to know the status of

598
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: a locker room, watch for that kind of stuff. Next up.

599
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: It's a good question, though, It's a really good question.

600
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Michael Gold from Pembroke Pines, Florida. He says, everyone knows

601
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Speaker 1: how important talented recruiting classes are, but can they be

602
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: so important that they can make coaches better as compared

603
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: to coaches who have less of an arsenal to play

604
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: around with. The perception is yes, The reality is no.

605
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: You are who you are as a coach, But what

606
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: is a college coach? What's a college football coach? One

607
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: of the lamest things that anyone has ever alleged in

608
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: the history of talking about or covering this game is

609
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: so and so is not a good coach. He just

610
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Speaker 1: has all the talent. Okay, So what are we even

611
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: saying there, Because a huge poortion of the day to

612
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: day responsibilities for a college coach involve recruiting talent acquisition.

613
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Like you quite literally, here's the phrase of the year,

614
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: you quite literally go out and get your players. You

615
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: recruit your players. That is part of it. And so

616
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: like if I build the car and then drive the

617
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: car really fast, you don't look at it and say

618
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: that car is only going fast because it's built that way.

619
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: I built it. Yeah, it's going fast, so congrats to me.

620
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: So if you've got a guy, if you got Kirby

621
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: smart and winning a national championship last year, I don't

622
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: look at him and say, well, that's easy to do

623
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: with all the talent in the world. That's complete garbage.

624
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: Because Texas has a bunch of good recruiting classes stacked

625
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: on top of each other in Austin have they done lately?

626
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: So it's obviously about more than just having talent. But

627
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: even if it was just about having talent, who went

628
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: and got the talent? Kirby didn't step in after someone

629
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: else acquired it and said all right, I'll take it

630
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: from here. No coach who's winning championships is doing that

631
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: because talent acquisition and the evaluation process before that and

632
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: then the development process after that is a key component

633
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: or multiple components of what it takes to win. So

634
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: the question was can having more talent make a coach better?

635
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Having the talent is part of what makes the coach.

636
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: I think the perception of folks out there could be

637
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: directly tied to how much a coach achieves on the field,

638
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: and sometimes that scale is not calibrated properly, Like I

639
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: never look at Matt Campbell at Iowa State and Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day at Ohio State and judge them the same because

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Speaker 1: they don't have the same opportunities. I mean, realistically, they're

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Speaker 1: allowed to go sit in the same living rooms for

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Speaker 1: the same kids. But if a kid gets an offer

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Speaker 1: from both, nine times out of ten, he's choosing Ohio

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Speaker 1: State because that's just the way it is, and Ohio

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Speaker 1: State is much better resourced now. People who cover the

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Speaker 1: sport understand that, and who follow the sport understand that.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, that should also free you

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Speaker 1: up to watch Ryan Dago eleven and one, and maybe

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Speaker 1: Matt Campbell goes eight and four and understand, Wow, both

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Speaker 1: of those guys just did really good coaching jobs. I

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Speaker 1: remember back when I was in college, Nick Saban came

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Speaker 1: down to Columbus, Georgia, right across the street from where

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Speaker 1: I was in school one year and he spoke It's

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Speaker 1: when he was first at Alabama, I think, and he

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Speaker 1: spoke about what makes a good coach. And someone asked

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Speaker 1: him he was taking questions from the audience, which in

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Speaker 1: and of itself is a spectacle to behold. Head coaches

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Speaker 1: taking questions from the audience. One guy asked him about

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Speaker 1: I mean, one guy actually started to engage him about

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Speaker 1: his defensive philosophy, and it didn't end well, it really didn't.

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Speaker 1: But someone else asked him about just you know, what

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Speaker 1: makes you a good coach? Is it more about recruiting

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Speaker 1: or is it more about scheme? And he did what

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Speaker 1: I did right there. He took a deep breath because

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Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted to embarrass the guy, but

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Speaker 1: he said, and I know a lot of you out

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Speaker 1: there that I'm some wizard, and you know I could

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Speaker 1: pull this grease board out and yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: could talk your head in a circle because you don't

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Speaker 1: do this every day. But really, when you get inside

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Speaker 1: the game, most of us know the same thing. Some

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Speaker 1: of us have more experience. So you know, if I've

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Speaker 1: been in the game twenty years, yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: got more seasoning about myself than a rookie head coach.

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Speaker 1: But everybody knows football at this level. What he said

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Speaker 1: is I figured out a long time ago the secrets

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Speaker 1: just to go get better players than everybody else. And

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Speaker 1: of course it popped the room and everyone laughed, but

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Speaker 1: he didn't smile because he kind of was joking, but

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Speaker 1: he wasn't joking. He's saying, look, you can try and

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Speaker 1: out scheme your way through this league the sec all

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Speaker 1: you want to, but eventually you come up on someone

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Speaker 1: else who can scheme pretty well, but also went out

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Speaker 1: and got a whole lot of good players. And that's

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Speaker 1: kind of redirecting the question a second. That's my biggest

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Speaker 1: concern about Brian Harson at Auburn. My biggest concern about

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Speaker 1: him is not that he doesn't know football. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: he does, absolutely he does. And it's not that he

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Speaker 1: can't scheme. Absolutely he can. The problem potentially still early there.

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Speaker 1: But the potential problem is if you don't recruit better

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Speaker 1: than they have, you cannot out scheme folks in this

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Speaker 1: league because there are too many other staffs that are

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Speaker 1: full of really really good guys on grease boards but

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Speaker 1: also good in the living room. So they're just they're

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Speaker 1: every bit as good on the stovetop as you are,

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Speaker 1: but they're cooking with way better ingredients. So who's going

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Speaker 1: to make the better meal? And even if you out

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Speaker 1: scheme one of them, you got like five or six

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Speaker 1: more of those matchups to go where a roster may

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Speaker 1: be more talented than yours on a given Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: yet you're gonna try and out scheme them. You can't

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Speaker 1: do that. So I think to go back to the question, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it makes you better if by better you just mean

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Speaker 1: better in the win loss column, which ultimately is what

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Speaker 1: we're grading guys by at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: But it also has to do a lot with the

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Speaker 1: resources you have to work with and properly calibrating that

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Speaker 1: scale of expectation. Good question there too. Why don't you

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Speaker 1: notice that theme around here? A lot of good questions.

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Speaker 1: Ross wants to know how much would the perception of

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve change if Utah and Oregon win their

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Speaker 1: Week one games hometown Vancouver, British Columbia. I think they

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Speaker 1: had rock Bottom nineteen ninety eight in Vancouver. Anyway, that's

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Speaker 1: not what he asked about. So a lot is the answer,

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Speaker 1: A whole lot. I think we were talking about this

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Speaker 1: in a meeting yesterday and I've been thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: What is something What are a couple of things at

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Speaker 1: least that could happen in week one, not the first month,

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Speaker 1: Week one of the college football season that would just

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Speaker 1: it would kind of rock the sport within the confines

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Speaker 1: of the season. And I think it's that. You know

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Speaker 1: what Ross is talking about is in Week one, we

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Speaker 1: have Oregon basically on the road against Georgia. They play

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. You can call that neutral if you want to.

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Speaker 1: So Oregon plays against Georgia in Atlanta. Utah goes to

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Speaker 1: Gainesville to play Florida in the swamp. Now that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be pretty much a pickm Utah may even be favored.

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Speaker 1: So it's not a wild concept at all that Utah

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Speaker 1: could win that game. It's a brand new staff against

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Speaker 1: one of the most veteran staffs in college football at

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Speaker 1: the Power five level. That's Billy Napier at Florida versus

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Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham at Utah. But Utah pulling that off would

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Speaker 1: be one thing. What if let's just wildly speculate for

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Speaker 1: a second, what if that happened. What if Utah won

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Speaker 1: and Oregon beat Georgia, Because that spread will be around

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns. And if that were to happen, the first

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Speaker 1: thing you see Georgia doing after winning a title is

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Speaker 1: losing as a double digit favorite in their home state

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Speaker 1: in Week one. I think that would send a pretty

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Speaker 1: decent sized shockwave through the PAC twelve. I think George Klakoff,

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Speaker 1: who's the new commissioner out there, would probably be at

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Speaker 1: a podium before the sun came up the next morning

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Speaker 1: talking about how his conference has arrived and now we're

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Speaker 1: going to build off this and we're going to brand

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Speaker 1: off this, and that's absolutely how handle it. But these

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Speaker 1: are both Week one games, so you have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to really make an impact. You have an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: set the tone called c USC, even though they're not

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Speaker 1: involved in this at all, would greatly benefit from that

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Speaker 1: because USC in the future cannot be the brand of

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. USC can be the lead dog in

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. They can be the biggest brand in

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. But everyone has been talking about Lincoln

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Speaker 1: Riley at USC and how that's going to elevate the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve. It's not elevating the PAC twelve at all.

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Speaker 1: That's elevating USC. Okay, if it's just USC and nothing

758
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: else out there, they might as well be Notre Dame

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00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: because for all intents and purposes, from the national perspective,

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Speaker 1: it's just like they're another independent program floating out there.

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Speaker 1: But if Oregon is good and right now, they're better

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Speaker 1: than UFC. If Utah is good and right now, they're

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Speaker 1: better than USC, or have been not vouching for the future.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not selling these programs short. It's

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Speaker 1: not like USC is a behemoth and they're trying to

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Speaker 1: catch up. It's the other around. USC is trying to

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Speaker 1: catch up. But yet you also know, like I do,

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Speaker 1: what people are saying. People are saying, oh, it's a

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Speaker 1: matter of time with USC. Well, even if it is,

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Speaker 1: and even if Lincoln Riley does have them at a

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Speaker 1: top five level every year, you need Utah, you need Oregon.

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Speaker 1: It would be nice if Washington would come to the party.

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Speaker 1: It'd be really nice if one of these Arizona schools

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Speaker 1: would get their act together. I don't have my breath

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Speaker 1: held on that. UCLA, Stanford, you know, it would be nice,

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Speaker 1: point as we need them. You need them as a

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve conference overall, you need them. So if we

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Speaker 1: were to have this happen, I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: it would mean for the rest of the year, but

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Speaker 1: I do know if Oregon tops Georgia and Utah tops

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Speaker 1: Florida in week one, yeah, I mean, what bigger story

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Speaker 1: do you have in week one? Now I ask that

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Speaker 1: a lot, and then there ends up being a bigger story.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not hold my breath on that either,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I think that would be It would be very,

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Speaker 1: very noteworthy. I appreciate you guys listening this morning. Again

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Speaker 1: on the back end, let me remind you one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand subscribers on YouTube, we're already above ninety three. This

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Speaker 1: is not an insurmountable task. And like I said, when

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Speaker 1: we get there, there is big news coming. So, as

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Speaker 1: we like to say around here, you know what's coming.

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Speaker 1: Our balls are in your court. I'm Josh paid for

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Speaker 1: a direct column for producer Jesse for our entire production team.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, have a great rest of your

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Speaker 1: day and God bless