1 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: We run into people on vacation that we know from home, 2 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: and then they expect us to be best friends on vacation. 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Like you could travel to Russia and run into someone 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: that you know from home and like, you's get a drink. 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: Why we don't get drinks at home? Why would we 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: get drinks in Russia or on vacation. It's just like 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: weird that people want to socialize and get together on 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: vacation when you don't get together with them at home. 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Is a vacation where you want to relax and not 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: hang out with obligatory at home people. So I just 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: feel that people have to have boundaries on vacation because 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I have found that if you talk to someone on vacation, 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: they take it to the next level they want to 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: go out with you. Then the next day, if you 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: blow them off, you're the bad guy and you're blowing 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: them off. Blowing them off, but like you were just 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: being on vacation and just engaging in casual fodder about 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: beach chairs and some block and kids activities, you weren't 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: wanting to be in a committed relationship with these people. 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: And then they want to go to dinner and just 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: hang out and you see every on the beach, and 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: then it's awkward when you see some in the beach. 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: You're like looking at your partner like, let's not don't 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: don't make eye contact because this person wanted to go 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: out last night and we said now. And then you're 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: like getting a restraining order on your vacation from people 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: that you don't know and that you don't hang out 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: with at home. It's just all upside down. A good 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: way to lose some unnecessary friends is to travel with them. 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't travel with many people, and I'm fully aware 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: that if I did, I would never speak to them again. 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: There are so there's such a small group of people. 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. My daughter is a great person 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: to travel with. She's not annoying, she gets ready quickly enough, 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: not as much as I do. She's with the program, 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: she can, she can stubb and flow. Paul is a 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: good person to travel with. Um one of my girlfriends 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: is not a good person to travel with, and they'll 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: always be one should argument that could burn the barn down, 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: could ruin your entire friendship forever. And I have another 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: friend that I love and she's excellent to travel with, 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: and we travel so well together. After two weeks, you 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: still want to kill the person. So I'm just saying 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: traveling with people is risky business. And these couples that 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: want to go on vacations with multiple couples, that's not 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: for me. You then know the person that if you 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: don't want to do the New Year's Eve plan, you're 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: the anti person. You think you're better than. I'm anti social. 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: I am anti I'm just anti social. I don't like 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: to be in a group thing, and I don't like 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: to do activities a lot of people like to do. 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm not the girl that should be in a group 53 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: vacation vacation setting, and I mean high and low. There 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: are like all inclusive trips that people go on, and 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: then there are boats that people take people on fiftie 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: birthday trips and planes and yachts and all that. I'm 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: an equal opportunity group other person's program to test her. 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: You could bring me on a mega Russian oligarch billionaire shot, 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: and I could still want to jump overboard. If I 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: have to be on somebody else's program with a certain 61 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: number of people for a certain amount of time because 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: you have to do their program. We're having breakfast at 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: this time, we're doing lunch at this time. You leave 64 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the program. You're the ostracized one who has decided, oh, 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: you're too good for the program. Someone else is paying 66 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: for your meals. You're gonna pay in another way. Trust me. 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: If you can't stand your partner, going on vacation with 68 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: another couple or a group is a great idea multiple kids, distraction, 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: et cetera. I repeat, if you can't stand your partner, 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: find a bunch of couples to go away with. You 71 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: could hide in the sea of other families, and it's 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: a great tactic. You could do a lot of stuff 73 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: as a lot of group activities. That's a good thing 74 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: to do if you don't if you can't stand your partner, 75 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of people do that, however, well, this 76 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: could be good too. I've seen when you get too 77 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: close with other couples. I've seen the swap and the 78 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: permose swap. I've seen couples just swap on out, or 79 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: one worse, one member of one couple ends up with 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: the other and the other two are left hold in 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: the bag. It's just it happens a lot. So can 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: I hear about your horror stories? Going on group vacations, 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: couples vacations, group family vacations. I bet you there's a 84 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: bunch of Ponzi schemes going to I bet you there's 85 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: one person plans the whole thing, takes the money and 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: you know, fox everybody over and does it their way. 87 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: I guarantee that's another thing that's a good scandal. My 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: guest today is Romeo Britto. He is a Brazilian born 89 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: artist known internationally for his bold, vibrant pop art. As 90 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: a completely self taught artist, his unique designs made their 91 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: way to the forefront of the art scene, and his 92 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: work has been showcased in over one hundred countries. He 93 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: found Britto Central, his own art company dedicated to displaying 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: his infamous work. Working with top brands like Apple and Disney, 95 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: and events such as the twenty ten World Cup and 96 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Britta was often considered the world's most 97 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: licensed artist. He's an amazing friend of mine. He is 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: an incredible brander, person, businessman, philanthropist. He is so happy 99 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: and I learned so much about his life through this interview. 100 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: I think you are going to love learning about how 101 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: he balances his business with his art. Enjoy I know 102 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: you're a national treasure of Brazil. You are a worldwide 103 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: renowned artist. Um, your art is often I think more 104 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: recognizable than you are, and then even your name. I 105 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: feel like if sometimes I'll say to someone, oh, or 106 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: mere Bretto, and they'll say who, and then I'll describe 107 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: something and then they'll say, oh, that's familiar. I'll show 108 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: a picture and then they'll understand. So it's interesting from 109 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: a brand perspective, who Romo Bretto the man is uh, 110 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: the name which is different, and the art which is different. 111 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: So we'll definitely get into that from a business and 112 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: branding perspective. UM, but I kind of wanted to just 113 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: get an understanding of how you got started. Are you 114 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: a trained artist or did you just were you just 115 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: good at this as a child. I mean, how how 116 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: did you get into art and at what age? Well? 117 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: I I never went to art school. I never thought 118 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: that I would become a full time artist. I you know, 119 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I dream about being a diplomat. 120 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to travel the world and I 121 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: have just have a job, a nice job, and change 122 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: my life. But art there was always there. I always 123 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: like painting, but it was more like a hobby. You know. 124 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: I never thought that it would do anything to me. 125 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: And then when I went to law school, because I 126 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: learned that for you to go to diplomatic school in 127 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: Brazil would be a good degree to have would be 128 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: a law degree, and then I was like, okay, I'll 129 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: go to law school. But when I was in law school, 130 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: I was so miserable that I couldn't take it, you know, 131 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: another semester, and that's when the fourth semester was the 132 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: last thing. And then I was like, there's no way 133 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing this. And that's when I dive 134 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: into the arts. You know. I was like, let me 135 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: see what I can do with the arts, and that's 136 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: what happened. But you know, there was a point that 137 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: I was really concerned about very word that I never 138 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: went to art school. But then I realized as a 139 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: goal I was going along, um my, my art that 140 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's good to learn art history, 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, techniques of you know what you know, do 142 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: with painting, sculpture, whatever you want to do, but at 143 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you have to be you know, 144 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: in front of a canvas and you had to figure 145 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: out and there's no school that can teach you that. 146 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: You know, Um, you can learn everything, but the confidence 147 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: to be in front of like what you do. I mean, 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: there's you know, you have it, you don't have it. 149 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: There's no like type of business and mix of all 150 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: that together that can make somebody like yourself. So i'm 151 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: you know that, I am. So it sounds like you 152 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: felt trapped in what you were doing, and many of 153 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: us know what that feels like. You know, and it 154 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: feels wrong. It's like eating something bad. You're just not 155 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be, and that takes courage to change, 156 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: and most people don't. UM. It sounds like what I 157 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: tell my daughter. My daughter is an artist. She's done, 158 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: she did a collaboration with you. It's hung in my house. 159 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. But she just has it, you know, if 160 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: you have it or not, and you decide whether to 161 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: fine tune that and hone that and then polish that. 162 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: So because now she has UM this art teacher, that's 163 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: a little more serious because she's never really she does 164 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: art in school and she's known as one of the 165 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: best artists or the best artists in her school, and 166 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: she just has it. But I wanted her to meet 167 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: with someone who was a little bit structured just to 168 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: get some of the technique and some of the things 169 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: to sort of hone her craft. So I feel like 170 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: you became an artist, but you still have studied later 171 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: to get better or understand I mean not a traditional 172 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: art school, but to understand different ways to communicate through art. 173 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah? I think what does happen as 174 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: you go along in your life. There's so many things 175 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: that you learn, and uh, one thing that I I've 176 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: always tell a young artist and anybody, and that is 177 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: getting to the arts. I say that it's really important 178 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: to be super organized, you know, And I think it's 179 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: so hard for you know, um creative mind that many 180 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: times to be organized, because that's the only way you're 181 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: gonna be able to be successful, you know. I mean 182 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: there's some artists that is organized, but then you're gonna 183 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: But I think it's much easier and much there's more 184 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: hope when you are organizing and put yourself together. So 185 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: as an artist, I had to say, so important to 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and go to studio. A 187 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: place that you can call creative space could be your house, 188 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: could be outside of your house, preferably outside of your house. 189 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: But you know, because when you're at home, it's kind 190 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: of very hard to do your job. You've got to 191 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: be extremely disciplined to be able to work at home. 192 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: And that's why some people have to get out of 193 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: your comfort zone and go somewhere else. I agree. What 194 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: about your family life, your parents, your childhood as it 195 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: pertains to money, education, your business, your your choice to 196 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: be an artist versus law school, Like how did you 197 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: grow up? Did you grow up financially secure or I 198 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: was super poor when I was in Brazil. I my mother, 199 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: I my mom was. My mother was a single mother 200 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: and she had like twelve children, only nine survived. I'm 201 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: a miracle and uh from eight. So I don't know. 202 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I had to say, I have one son, and I 203 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: don't know how my mother did or she was a 204 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: saint or a hero to pass away a few years back. 205 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: But you know, to have like all these kids, it 206 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I don't know how I 207 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: made it and I'm here, But you know, I think 208 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: it was one thing that I always tell people to 209 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: you still have hope, you know, I have hope, imagination. 210 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: I was a kid with a lot of hope, imagination 211 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: in my heart and my heart, and I think that 212 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: hope carried me away all all the way through so 213 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: many places and people that I never thought in my 214 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: life I would do it. I would never thought that 215 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: my art would be an inspiration to you know, kids 216 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: in Asia, kids in American Europe, you know, my my 217 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: heart to be taught in school. And so I mean 218 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: it's incredible, you know, It's like, it's really incredible happened 219 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: to my art, to me and my work, And and 220 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: what about love and sexuality that comes out in your 221 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: work and as as a child, being able to express yourself, 222 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: being able to be who you truly are. I mean, 223 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: one thing that my mother never talked about was about 224 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: this two topics, love and sexuality, you know, And it 225 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: was a something that you don't talk about. I mean, 226 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: it was like I grew up my mother was so 227 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: worried about so many other things, with like nine kids 228 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: to take care of it, so she never spoke about it. 229 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, I grew up learning about all that 230 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: two topics that you talk about on my own, you 231 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was just like that was 232 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: like one of the things you don't talk about. I 233 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: think I talked more about it, you know, love and sexuality, 234 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe today you know that I did in the past. 235 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: But is that amazing? Think about your art. I mean 236 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: it's so colorful, it's so free, it's pid love, it's 237 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: focus sexuality. Don't you think that's interesting? Yeah, it's amazing 238 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: because you know, I do believe that, you know, people 239 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: to be parent, maybe we need to get like some 240 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: sort of I don't know, instruction, because there's so many 241 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: things that you know, because we are so complex humans, 242 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: we are so complex, there's so many needs that we 243 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: have a different stage of your life as a child, 244 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: as a teenager, as we grow older. You know, all 245 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: this keeps changing, evolving, and a lot of time, you know, 246 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: so many things are done, and so many things like 247 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: undonne or so many things misunderstood, and just because we 248 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: don't have It's almost like if you buy a Apple phone, 249 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: if you don't know how to use it, the phone 250 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: doesn't work that right, you know, like you have to 251 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: have such you have to have some understanding and learning 252 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: and then so you were able to navigate through this 253 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: beautiful thing called life. So well, well that's an amazing point. Yeah, 254 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: it's a good point, right, and we can go on 255 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: and on about that. So basically, I'm one of these 256 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: kids that you grew up a mother was a wonderful mother, 257 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: hard working and uh, you know she has probably you know, 258 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: she's just you know, came from an also another set 259 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: up you know, which you know and then you know 260 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: she repeat the set up, you know what I mean, 261 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: and I would go but she did her best. Oh 262 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: you're saying her family dynamic. They say that your your 263 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: unresolved issues, you pass to the next generation unless you 264 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: break the change, unless you break the change. Yeah. So anyway, 265 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: but I'm very I was blessed to have the art too, 266 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: that I could, you know, express myself, that I could 267 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: whatever answer or whatever questions, what everything that was going 268 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: on in my head as a kid, I could put 269 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: on my work. I was you know, I'd be able 270 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: all those years. And I continue doing that, creating image 271 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: of happiness love. Then you know, some people see sexuality 272 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: in my work. So great. I think I learned a 273 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: couple of I think number one, you reminded me that 274 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: love is not enough when it comes to parenting. I 275 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: think if you stay connected and communicate and loving meaning open, open, 276 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: I think that's important as a mother, I stay connected 277 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: to my child. It's not always positive. We had, you know, 278 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: a negative way of talking to each other, a dynamic 279 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: between the two of us. And I um, I said, 280 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: I want to I have a therapist. I said, for 281 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: ten minutes, let's get on the phone with my my 282 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: person I talked to and together talk about a better 283 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: way for both of us to communicate. Because if you 284 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: keep repeating the same behavior, you expect different results. So 285 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: I think staying connected to our kids is important. I 286 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that you use your passion and your 287 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: work as therapy. Your art is therapy. Um so, but 288 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: it's undeniable that it's a successful business. So are you 289 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: good at business in addition to being creative? Or you 290 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: better at marketing? But you hire people around you, so 291 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: you're not the smartest person in the room. How do 292 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: you know what you know and know what you don't know? 293 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: And how is this a real business? Okay? So a 294 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: lot of people they when they talk and they see 295 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: about my arts, Oh my god, you're the most you know, 296 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: marketing guy, genius this or that, blah blah blah. You know, 297 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: one of the things I always wanted to do. I 298 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: always try to do. It was whatever I was working on, 299 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: I tried to do my best, you know what I mean. 300 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: And actually I relate a lot to one comment that, well, 301 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: this is said, whatever you do, do your best something 302 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: like that. You know, whatever you're trying to do, try 303 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: to do your best, you know, because people are gonna 304 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: talk to about you and they want to come back 305 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: and see you again, something like this. So I do 306 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: believe in that if you try your best, you have 307 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: more chance than if you don't. You know. I never 308 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: went to business school and never went to art school, 309 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: but every time I tried to do something, I tried 310 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: to do my best. And I always try to surround 311 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: myself with people that you know better, you know, in 312 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: the in different ways then you know where I am, 313 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I was trying to 314 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: have great friends that you know, they're doing something special 315 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: and and I think you can learn a lot being 316 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: around people they're doing something special and uh, and be 317 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: very hard working and you know, hire the right people. 318 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean, all this combination altogether you can end up 319 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm making something out of your life, and 320 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: I've been very blessed at people react to what I 321 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: be creating. All those years, and my language is very simple. 322 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, bringing anything like nasty or something 323 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: negative about the world. My work is full of hope. 324 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: We all want to hope, we all want happiness in 325 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: our lives and love so and I think, you know, 326 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: because of that, it is being much easier for me 327 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: as an artist, because if I was talking about terrible 328 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: thinking about what's going on in the world out there, 329 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, very few people want to bring at home 330 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: something negative, something that reminds them of something terrible that 331 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: happened in the world. So um, and I think that's 332 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: one of the reasons is that people can immediately see 333 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: that in my work, nothing you know, crazy complicated. M 334 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: How big is your operation? How many people from top 335 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: to bottom do you have? I mean you have free 336 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: standing stores or now, so the operation is pretty large. 337 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: We have almost a hundred people working here between here 338 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: and the gallery, but we we employ, we give jobs 339 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: to so many people around the globe working with brittle 340 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: projects that we do because we do tons of projects everywhere. 341 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: So um, basically, that's that's what it is. I mean, 342 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: I have a CEO. He is a genius, and his 343 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: name is Lucas and he's a doctor, but he you know, 344 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: just to be a side about, you know, making business 345 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: instead of being medicine. So and that's what it is. 346 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: And and several other people you know that are part 347 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: of the our organizations. So what's the hardest part of 348 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: running this business? I mean the hardest part of it. 349 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of time people think that, Okay, 350 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to the arts and creative environment, and they 351 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: think that he's going to be a party. And you know, 352 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of you know, you attract so 353 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: many people that they want to work with an artist 354 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: for the not the right reasons. They just think about 355 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: in the energy, because there's a great energy, you know, 356 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: in the arts, you know, and the creative you know, 357 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna go to Hollywood, people think about, oh 358 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: my god, it's so great to be around the stars 359 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And then they don't realize that 360 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: you had to wake up early the morning, you had 361 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: the right angle for you had the right set whatever 362 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: you want to be beautiful, you know, and then you know, 363 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: and then goes on and on and on, and people 364 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: don't realize that there's a lot of work and there's 365 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: a lot of sacrifice, and that sometimes people can do 366 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: to be like a huge success. I told once to 367 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: uh an artist a friend of mine, that some I say, 368 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: sometimes you had to die to be born again, So 369 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: you you have to forget about everything you've done in 370 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: your life to make yourself a new person. You know, 371 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: if you don't do that, you're not able to get 372 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: to that huge success. I understand what you're talking about, 373 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: because people think they're coming to work for me and 374 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: we're going it's a play. We're gonna drink margarite is 375 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: all day and be funny and just be funny all day. 376 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: And it's a serious business and it's intense and it's professional, 377 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: and you have to address professionally and act professionally and 378 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: be professional and represent my business. And I feel that 379 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: people have a challenging time with that. And I can 380 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: see that with you, that everyone thinks they're coming in 381 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: and we're just gonna be painting, and he's so funny, 382 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: and he's so fun when it's serious. So I really 383 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: do I fully unders don and I find that that's 384 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: a very challenging part of business as well. And I 385 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: think that managing managing people is challenging for me because 386 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: I need to create, so to get into uh days 387 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: off and hours and charges and office supplies and all 388 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: the nonsense. It's not what I'm supposed to be doing, 389 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: and it's not really what you're supposed to be doing. 390 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: You have to have other people around you so you 391 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: can create. And as a business owner, I'm sure you 392 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: find that you probably wish you could create eighty percent 393 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: at the time, and you're probably creating sixty percent at 394 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: the time because you have to run your business and 395 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: make sure that the trains were at the time. What 396 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: do you think what percentage are you able to be 397 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: free artists Ramera Britto just the talent, and what percentage 398 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: do you have to be the are you the CEO? 399 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: I think you hit the right number, like six, you know, 400 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: like that, you know like but I had, I mean 401 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: for me to be able to create, what for me 402 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: to be able to do what I've done throughout my career, 403 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: I had to push myself so hard. I sleep little hours, 404 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I want word that I never wanted 405 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: to do it for opportunities, no great opportunities. So I 406 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: wanted to do as much as possible because time so 407 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: limited and they cannot create more time and m But 408 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's so true managing people. Having the more 409 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: people you have, the bigger the business, the more challenge 410 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: to become, you know. And but it's so important to 411 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: find the right people and and the one that the 412 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: right one for you to give some time to them 413 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: because also not everybody comes with the you know, ready 414 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: to go out, you know, so for them to understand 415 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: a smart person, I'm gonna go next to Bethany and 416 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna say, I know that Bethany like this way, 417 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do that way. I'm gonna make sure 418 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: that she's happy. And there you go. But people gotta 419 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: get the right person that communicate, understand that observed, and 420 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: ask questions and uh. And they're always there for for you, 421 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, always there for you. And if they're always 422 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: there for you, opportunity would be good for them too. 423 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: So to be a business person means you have to 424 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: be the bad guy, you know, and people want you 425 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: to be happy heart art guy and also that it 426 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: really is you, so it's hard for you to only 427 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: be the artists. You have to be managing the shop. 428 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: But are you stressed out? Do you do? You do? 429 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: You get very stressed or are you super mellow and chill? Well, well, 430 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: I had to say, I mean, the good thing is that, 431 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, there was a point that I was me 432 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: and me and me and me, all the whole thing, right, 433 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: But I hire all the people. I have managers. I 434 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: had people in the departments. I you know, the the studio, 435 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: the palace, you know, the students in decide this building 436 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: here and uh, and there's departments. So I don't deal 437 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: I like I do I used to in the past, 438 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, so now you know for the past years, 439 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: you know, as I always knew that you had to 440 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: have a structure because you cannot just you know. I 441 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: remember so well, many many years ago, thirty some years ago, 442 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: and I had one of one of my staff. I 443 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: was like, we need to have a manual with an 444 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: employee manual. And they said, you're an artest. Why you 445 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: need an employee manual. I'm so important to have an 446 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: employee manual. So, you know, I mean, I think it's 447 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: important to have layers. It's important to managers and that way, 448 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, headfront with people and you just speak with 449 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: a few people and then you go and then the 450 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: all the all the decisions are taken by you know, 451 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: the you team that you trust, you know, and that's 452 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: very important to have a structure of a business because 453 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: if you don't, you become a little bit like chaotic. 454 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: And I don't like the I like organizations. So well, 455 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: do you are you allowed to say what percentage of 456 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: your business you own? Have you given away? Have you 457 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: regretted that you know? Strategic partners? Oh? No, no, acent 458 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: of my business. Interesting, I don't have no partners. No, 459 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't have no partners. But you know, 460 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I mean unless in the future, who knows. 461 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I never know about the future 462 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: because I definitely have this idea about my work. There's 463 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: so many things that keep keep going, you know, when 464 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: I die one day, you know, we're all going to die, 465 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: and then I definitely want my art to live on 466 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: and there will be so many things that can be done, 467 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, without the artists, you know, when they when 468 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: the artist is not around. So well, and have you 469 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: but you thought about it. I'm sure you've been approached, 470 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: you've you've you've toyed with it or never thought about 471 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: having a partner. I never thought about you know, about 472 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: the you know I mean like for some reason, I 473 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: always doing my arts being a very set good set 474 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: up for me that I don't want, you know, just um, yeah, 475 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: so you don't want those shackles. It's your it's your baby, Yeah, 476 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean right now, I mean right now, I don't 477 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: see that. You know, we never know about the future, 478 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: because you know, I think many times it's it's good 479 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: to have people that has the skin of the game, 480 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: you know, like, you know, we never know. I mean 481 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: it's somebody you know, I don't know. I mean something 482 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: that didn't occurred to me. But maybe in the future, yes, 483 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: maybe the future. Maybe. Well it's interesting because there aren't 484 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: that many there's always has to be. There aren't that 485 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: many artists. I think of Keith Herring off the top 486 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: of my head that are have been commercial and yet 487 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: also respected. I mean, does that make any sense? Like 488 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: some you have you're definitely commercial. You know, I've seen 489 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: your work in in l A X and you see 490 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: it on luggage, and you've been you've created a license, 491 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: a licensing business. But I have pieces of yours. That 492 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: heart piece that you that's still in my city apartment 493 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite pieces, and I'm proud to 494 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: have it on my wall. So it's you've definitely managed 495 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: to maintain credibility while still being commercial, and that had 496 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: to be risky and a bridge that you had to 497 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: decide how to cross because you don't want to lose 498 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: your base and have people not think you're a credible artist, 499 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: but you want to expand and build a brand worldwide. 500 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: So I just think that that's you know, how to 501 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: grow and how to expand. It can make or break 502 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: a business. Yeah, you have to be extremely careful how 503 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: you're doing, and I've been like very careful about you know, 504 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: teaming up, you know, as in a person in a 505 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: personal level, as my friends have incredible friends. Also in business. 506 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: I always try to do business with companies that would 507 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: add to my career. You know, an amazing company that 508 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm working out from the first one from absolutely art too, 509 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, Pepsicola, Coca Cola, you know every I mean 510 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: the brands like now I'm working with Bentley, you know, 511 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: come up with Bentley and we just launched the Bentley 512 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: the new Bentley during Art Bosl which is beautiful, and 513 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: the Rose Role. I mean, so many other brands and 514 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: the launch a Mini Cooper and I mean, the list 515 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: goes on and all the best brands so and I 516 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: think when you put all this together, you know, you 517 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: can't go wrong with combinations and so. So it's been 518 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: about good partnerships, good collaborations. What have been in the 519 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: biggest mistakes you've made, What have been real errors in 520 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: judgment and business? Well, I mean, there was a big 521 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: project that I did many years ago UM in London, 522 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: which was the largest art installational hyde Park, which was 523 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: very difficult for me at that time, but it turned 524 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: out to be one of the most beautiful projects that 525 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: I've had done. Also, it was a kind of mistake 526 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: financially because it was very expensive, this collaboration that I 527 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: did UM with this organization. But in a long run, 528 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think something that stayed was that beautiful 529 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: project you know that I did in hard part and 530 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: in England was fantastic. But were you doing it? You 531 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: think it obviously cost you money, it sounds like, but 532 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: you did it because because the reason I say this 533 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: is I did The Housewives first season for seven thousand two, 534 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: I've done other things. Everyone thought that I did my 535 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: my Cocktails deal just for the money, but I did 536 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: it also for the street cred you know, to be 537 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: a legitimate business person who had turned a brand in 538 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: a year or eighteen months. So, um, did you do it? 539 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: Because it didn't matter how much it costs you. You You 540 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: were investing in the street cred you had, you had 541 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: an installation in Hyde Park like that means a lot 542 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: more than the actual dollars and cents. Yeah, I mean 543 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: every time that that I create a piece of bar, 544 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: every time I put my my name into something, I 545 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: never think about the money first. And that's one thing 546 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: that I tried to tell people over and over again. 547 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: Do a great job and the money will follow. Everybody 548 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: that I've spoken to on this podcast who's very successful, 549 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: from Wolfgang Puck to Cheryl Sandberg, has said the same thing, 550 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: and I, like, I really do believe everyone has said 551 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: that they do not do it because of the money. Ever, 552 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean you have to have made some financial decisions though, 553 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: because you do run a business. I mean there has 554 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: to be an R O I and good business and 555 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: bad business in the end of the day when good 556 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: intention comes in and then people say, oh my god, 557 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: you're so lucky. You know, but you've done so many 558 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: times things that that was really pushed by what you love, 559 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: what you really wanted to do in your life, and 560 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: it's become so well done that people end up wint 561 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: to team up with you more and more. And let's 562 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: say with you, I mean all the move that you've done. 563 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: I know that I'm not making the interview on you, 564 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: but that's why you go to a supermarket and you 565 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: get you know, your popcorn. You know they're how many 566 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: girls would like have a popcorn on the supermarket? You 567 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: go there and walking on I mean, I like watch 568 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: TV and tons of people, millions of people is enjoying 569 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: what you do. But because you know you've done so 570 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: many times, so many times, so there is itforthless when 571 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity, the right one comes. You did so many 572 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: times that you're just like that, I can do as 573 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I do my nails. Oh, what you're saying is that 574 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: it's case law. It's based on the fact that I 575 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: want to have a popcorn because I think that that's 576 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: what girls will love and seal addressing and preserves. And 577 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing it out of passion and not for the money, 578 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: but because it's case law. I've se and how many 579 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: deals I've done, and the way that it works and 580 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: the way to execute it. That that becomes each time 581 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: you learn a little bit more, but that you can 582 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: sort of just check the box and you know how 583 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: to do. You have behind you some luggage, you have 584 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: a piece of art. You just discussed a car. It 585 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: really doesn't matter what the no pun intended vehicle is. 586 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: It just matters if you have a good partner, if 587 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: you're passionate about it, and you understand how to do 588 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: it because you've done so many yeah, and then and 589 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: they're one thing is that is to follow it because 590 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: you do something dumb and you just have this protocol 591 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: of how you do your business. You know that, Like Prince, 592 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give an example to you of somebody that 593 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, you give a tip for in a restaurant. 594 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: You give a tip in a restaurant and the person 595 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: the way to did a fantastic job, and then the 596 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: way to thank you, and you feel like, oh my god, 597 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean you did a great job. I give you 598 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: a great tip. But you know, in the end of 599 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 1: the day, you know, is the reaction of an action. 600 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: So the more positive action that people do. You know, 601 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: if you do think positive action in the in the 602 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: day and you get eight is a great number, or 603 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: if you get four, you know, but if you don't 604 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: do no positive action, there will be no reaction. And 605 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: those reaction multiplied and you're keeping my more and more 606 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: actions coming back to you because people say, wow, it's 607 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: so great. You know, I eat the pop front of 608 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: bath and it was delicious. I'm gonna eat more. All 609 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: my friend love it, blah blah blah, and she's so nice, 610 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy more. But and then as she came 611 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: out with something else over America, come out with something else, 612 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: or it could be anything else that people say, oh 613 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: my gosh, you just keep it going, keep it going, 614 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: and keep it going. But if you don't do that, 615 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: if somebody does something nice to you and you don't 616 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: think of the person back the person, they think, oh 617 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: my god, maybe I didn't do anything. You know, it 618 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: was valuable, you know, and then you just and people like, 619 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: why nothing's happening with me? But you need to make 620 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: things happen to I had to start with you too. 621 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: It's a lot of me, and it's a lot of you. 622 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: Your business is about you and your art and your 623 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: creation and what does Romero want and is it going 624 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: to be to his standard? And this is a Romeo deal. 625 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 1: So how does that affect your personal life? It is 626 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: so much about you? Does that make yourself conscious and relationships? 627 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: Because it's just you're the peacock to say the least 628 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: in your relationship. How does this work in personal relationships? Well? 629 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: I try my best not to be all about me, 630 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But even though that it's 631 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: kind of it, but you know, I try. You know, 632 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of relationships in my life, 633 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: so I you know, I got married, I was for years, 634 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: got married and I'm single. But you know, but I've 635 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, I try my best to not you know, 636 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: when let's say, when I go out and don't I 637 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: usually like to go out with friends because then the 638 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: conversation not only about me, you know what I mean. 639 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: So my friends bring all the conversation and blah blah blah. 640 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: I always like to bring bigger group because not only 641 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: just me talking about me, So nice to list to 642 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: other people talking and hear these stories and they share 643 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: with other friends and you know, so I don't have 644 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: to do all the conversations. Here makes sense? Um, what 645 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: has been the rose and the thorn of your career? 646 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: The high and the well of your business, the high 647 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: and the low. Well, I mean the highest point to 648 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: the highest highest point. Oh no, I mean go to 649 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: incredible places like you know, um, go to dinners in 650 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: place that I never thought about that would be you know, 651 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: like go to have dinner back hand palace, you know, 652 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: and be part of the Prince's child, you know, the 653 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: princes and Prince's trust, you know, being part of that 654 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: incredible organization that I never thought about because you know 655 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: I always love England that I always love the real 656 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: family and had huge respect to them. So you know, 657 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: there was incredible you know, to do that, you know, 658 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: and and be able to be part of something and 659 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: in particularly be invited by the Prince to be part 660 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: of his foundation, you know, and be able to raise 661 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: fun to youth you know that I need. But that 662 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: lowest was when I was a kid mostly you know, 663 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: it's just like it was really bad and terrible. That's 664 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: one thing that I always preached that's so important that 665 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: one day we will have family education in school so 666 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: people understand that bringing human beings to the world, it's 667 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: a huge responsibility. I get it. I understand that very 668 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, you're a parent, you know, but some people, 669 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, a good parents understand that and not something 670 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: human beans a huge responsibly to put the world. Oh no, 671 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: and I'm speaking of the way I was parented, which is, 672 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny you say that you can be 673 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: a parent, but that doesn't mean you're parenting as a verb, 674 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: meaning even if you're not abusive or you're not, you know, terrible, 675 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: you can have children and just sort of like let 676 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: them run the show and the path of least resistance 677 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: and the television is the babysitter and the junk food, 678 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: and that says nothing to spoil doesn't have anything to 679 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: do with being wealthy or not. It could be just 680 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: you could have a poor parent spoiling a kid or 681 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: not being present because they're just not that involved. What 682 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: you put into it, Like a business, you get out 683 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: and I feel that parents you can be a parent, 684 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: but you're not actually parenting. To parent is a very 685 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: diligent job, way more important than your business, obviously, but 686 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: you have to put so much work into it. You 687 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: have to think about it. What that you know, you're 688 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: creating another person, You're investing in another person. You're emotionally 689 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: molding and shaping another person. You're influencing another person what 690 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: you do, monkey see monkey do what you do and say, 691 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: they will mimic either the same or do the opposite. 692 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's just what they're sponges. So 693 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: I take parenting very seriously, and just like with business, 694 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: if things are going wrong, like then you're just not 695 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: feeling that it's working. It's not because the kid, Oh 696 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: my kid, he's so spoiled and they're so you know, 697 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: they're they're challenging, or that. It's because usually it could 698 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: be a lot of it could be made nature versus nurture. 699 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: But I believe that it's a lot because of how 700 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: you're parenting your kids. So if you if it's not 701 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: going that great, you have to intervene and get involved 702 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: and shake it up the way you do your business. 703 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: These are images and influences that we see everywhere. Um 704 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: and who people surround themselves with. Yeah, one person, can 705 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, one person? You have women, a child can 706 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: change the life of all the people, you know, like 707 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: one person can change the liven millions. Like Angela Merkele. 708 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: You know, once she became Chancellor of Germany. Imagine all 709 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: those things that she was there. What she did for 710 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: the country. So many incredible people who did who made 711 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: who made a positive impact to society, to their communities, 712 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: to their families, and you know, and all the one 713 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: who did the horrible impact to the world. So but 714 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: I think I'll go back to one thing, his family 715 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,479 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I as an artist, I tried 716 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: to bring happiness and hope through my art that you know, 717 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: people see something that that they can share with their children, 718 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: the husband and wives, you know, league's friends and lover 719 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: you know. And because hope and uh and happening, it 720 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: is so important for us to celebrate our life. There's 721 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: a great opportunity to be alive. Well, yeah, I mean, 722 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: and this is a question I think is interesting for 723 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: you in particularly. I can't imagine how you're going to 724 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: answer this. What percentage are you lucky? And what percentage 725 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: are you smart? As it pertains Yeah, as it pertains 726 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: to your business honestly, like not what you're supposed to say, Like, honestly, 727 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: what percentage are you lucky? And what percentage you smart? 728 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: As a business person. I had to say to you, 729 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: I've been very blessed for so many things happened to me. 730 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: But I must say something to you. I'm going to 731 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: go back to one thing is that the more open 732 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: you are if you understand or if you had the 733 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: spinning of sharing, because if I did not want to 734 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: share my work, if I was kind of or if 735 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: I didn't prove myself out there, if I didn't work 736 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: really hard, if I didn't practice every day, you had 737 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 1: to practice every day. And you know, it's almost cliche 738 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: to say that it comes, you know, when it's like 739 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: there's a lot of work, you know, and you know, 740 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: a lot of work, a lot of sacrifice, and a 741 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: lot of practice and the opportunity to come and you're 742 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: ready to go. That's fascinating because many successful people say 743 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: the boat is ready, we are all set up, so 744 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: if those fish are there, we're going to get them all. 745 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: So you're saying you tee yourself up. But that's also 746 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: the first part you said about being open. That's emotionally intelligent. 747 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: So I'm going to change this question in the future 748 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 1: to be too smart being emotionally intelligent as well. It's 749 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: just you know, business smart butt that means yeah. So 750 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: you're you're you're saying that it's effectively yeah, and you 751 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: can't teach that in school, because you know that someone 752 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: that's willing, their willingness to help, the willing needs to 753 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: be there. I want to hear you. I want to 754 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: do something for you. And then the present, you know what. 755 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: I want to give the opportunity for you because you're 756 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: there for me. I call you, listen to me. I 757 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: call you there for me. So I mean, if you're 758 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: gonna have ten people working for you and the one 759 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: that you can call midnight, you know, because the persident, 760 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: don't worry about just call me Saturday. Oh I'll do 761 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: that for you Sunday. Oh no, I'll be there for you. 762 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: Never make it, make a difficult and that, and you're 763 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, and in a difficult time 764 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: or if you're an amazing time, who you're gonna think 765 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: about that person and that person's gonna get the job. 766 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: And then you're gonna say somebody said, well, why are 767 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: you still like, well, you don't know. I wake up 768 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: so many times the money, but you do because you 769 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 1: really wanted to you therefore, and then you're just everything 770 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: is just working for you because you're like going the 771 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: journey and you're attracting all this beautiful thing because you're 772 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: willing and you're open to it, and you wanted to 773 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: do an amazing job, and you have that no matter what, 774 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: if I'm doing this for A or for Z, it's 775 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: going to be beautiful and I want to do my best. 776 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: And then you go and then you practice this every 777 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: day over and over and over again. And if you 778 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: don't have somebody that's see your qualities, your abilities of 779 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: doing that job in the side of the road, in 780 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: the other side, somebody is going to appreciate you. But 781 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: you have it. It doesn't matter. You can do for 782 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: anybody and anyone. It's so true. Well it's your work, 783 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: shows your love and your passion, and it's coming back 784 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: to you. So it's so amazing to talk to you 785 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: and see it's very different. We know each other, we 786 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: spend time together, and I don't want to say it's superficial, 787 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: because it's real, but this is just a different kind 788 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: of conversation. You know, you get to really dig a 789 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: little deeper. And I so many places that people get 790 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: interviewed it's really surface and superficial. So I just wanted 791 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: to sort of get a sense of you, and I 792 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: definitely have. So I'm very grateful to have you as 793 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: a friend and we always get great memories together anyway, 794 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: we always have good time together with your kids, everything, 795 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: your daughter, she loves you and that piece of art 796 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 1: is amazing. So that's so good. All right, Well, Romy 797 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: I love you. It's great talking to you, and we'll 798 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: get more soon. I love you too, bathany see you child. 799 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: So that's Romeo. I don't even remember how I met him. 800 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: I think I met him through an X at the 801 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl when he was doing uh a Marrow Britto 802 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: installation or collab with the super Bowl. He's a great person, 803 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: a great marketer, a great business person, a great artist. 804 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: He's nice. He always comes from a place of yes, 805 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: and I know him. But I never really get to 806 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: know anybody in this deep of a way from a 807 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: business standpoint and an emotional standpoint as it pertains to 808 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: life and success and the journey until I get them 809 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: on here. So I just love the show so much 810 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: for so many reasons. But uh, it makes me I 811 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: don't mean work in a difficult way. I mean I've 812 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: got you know. It's not that easy to sit here 813 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: and talk to someone and figure out who they are 814 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: and how their childhood affected them and really dig deep 815 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: without digging deep. And uh, sometimes I sit and I 816 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: wonder where the conversation is going, and lo and behold, 817 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: it always ends up going someplace that I never knew 818 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: would go. I always end up learning something. And Ramaia 819 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 1: was really really interesting, and I just like his story 820 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: and his sentiment and that he really recognizes that people 821 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: think they come to work for him and it's going 822 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: to be a party, but it's actually a business. So 823 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: thank you, Roma Britto. That was really interesting.