WEBVTT - Vic Michaelis Disobeys Bridger 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:14.440 Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:15.760 perfectly clear. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:17.639 But you're a. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:23.560 Guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:31.440 And I said, no, guest, your presences presents enough. I 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.360 already had too much stuff. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.240 So how did you dare to surbey me? 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.560 Welcome to I said, no gift. I'm Bridger Wine girl. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.200 We are in the backyard. We're here. I hope you 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.680 feel okay. I hope you feel fine. It's been raining 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.240 for about four days. The rain do they say the 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.919 rain is broken? It's gone. The skies are crystal clear. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.360 And I know you know. A large chunk of twenty 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.720 twenty three on this podcast was spent talking about my 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.400 home flooding. It was just kind of a NonStop topic. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.679 I know you're sick of it. Everyone's sick of it. 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.800 I'm sick of it. Apparently even God wanted a new 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.520 topic on this podcast. Because the house did not flood 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.880 this time, I can reveal today that my home is 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:39.000 dry for now. So let's all just be thrilled. I'm 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.880 riding a high that's indescribable. Let's get into the podcast. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.600 Today's guest is so funny, so excited to talk to them. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.800 It's Vic Machayliss. Oh wow, Vic, I'm just looking dry, 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:52.800 dry as a bone. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.960 I thought that before, and I'm a little behind the music. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.880 I think with this you did fully turn away for 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.880 me to do the intro and then turned into it 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.760 and you said it, and then I. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.480 Thought, wow, dry as a bone. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.240 Everything, shoes to hair, everything is, the world is dry. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:11.880 The inside of my house is dry. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.919 Congratulations, by the way, so. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.200 Much, thank you for your support. The listeners have been 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:22.240 very supportive. Onalise did not reach out. You know, we're feuding. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.639 Tough because I would have assumed you'd seen each other 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.040 a couple of times in between that. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.720 No, no interest on Realise is not interested in the 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.560 moisture level of my home anymore. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:36.120 Okay, that's a choice. No, it's fine. I'm not judging. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.480 It's you know. Would I have reached out, Yeah. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.880 Of course. Had we known each other prior to right now, 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.200 you probably would have been writing. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.640 Had I seen on Twitter from a stranger that there 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.280 was a chance your house was flooding, I would have 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:48.680 reached out. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.560 I wanted to know how was the rain for you? 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.200 Fine? Fine, honestly fun. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.560 I have spent a lot of time in the Pacific Northwest. 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.480 So it's like a snow day for rain. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.000 You know, it's like it's fun, It's it's costplaying rain 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:04.959 when l rains. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:05.639 You know what I mean? 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.880 You feel like it's Yeah, it's because we're not used 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.200 to it, and it feels like kind of a fun, 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.239 exciting little novelty. That's what I want. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.079 Have you spent much time like in places where it 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:16.640 rains along? 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.080 No, I grew up in a desert. I live in 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:20.280 desert Utah. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:21.359 Oh amazing. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.720 It's kind of a surprise desert. I mean, Salt Lake 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.160 City doesn't feel their mountains and. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.400 It's not like mask Mormon x X. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.480 But yes, previous Mormon, I'm obsessed you are. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.880 Yeah, I also grew up and I'm if this is offensive? 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.680 Let me know cult adjacent where I'm not denominational, like big, big, 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:40.480 big churches. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:44.280 So was there a name? What was the deal? 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:44.520 Do you know? 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:45.520 Harvest Bible Chapel. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:46.360 I love that name. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:47.800 It is a fantastic name. 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:49.280 I don't know. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.320 I don't know if I can. I mean, like, listen, 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.839 don't sue me. I can't afford it. I really can't 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.920 afford it. But like our pastor, so I did two 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:02.760 churches because my dad wasn't very religious, but then he 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.880 was a single dad and I got sucked in because 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.240 you know, they know how to pick them. 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:10.440 And I I It became my entire personality. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.800 If you double time, I would. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.720 Do a regular church at Christ Community Church, and then 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.400 I would do my youth group there and then also 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.640 my youth group at Harvest Bible Chapel, which became the 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.000 big part of my identity. 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.839 Wow, that is too much, I would say, it was 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:22.279 too much. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.520 I would agree. I had a big conversation with my dad. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.320 I remember in a car very vividly, where he goes, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.240 I don't believe in Hell, and I said, oh my god, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.680 my dad is going to hell. That is this is 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.440 the worst thing that's ever happened to anybody but I. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:35.960 But it was. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:37.719 It was one of those things where like our pastor was, 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.120 they were the kind of ones where like they were made, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.640 they were living the like three million dollar mini mansions, 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.520 and I'm like our pastor got I won't say his 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.120 name because I don't want you guys. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.800 I'm sorry, analyst, I'm looking at you. I don't want 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:48.520 you in trouble. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.000 I was constantly getting sued by churches and cults. It's 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:53.839 kind of their things, and that's. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:58.120 Fair enough it but we uh, he got like housted 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:02.640 from the church by the elders because is allegedly he 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.240 put a hit out on his son in law and 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:10.840 one of the writers of Christianity today, he like tried 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.600 to hire a hit man. 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.400 And how far into the process process did he get. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:16.240 I don't think that far. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.039 I think that the guy had like recorded him and 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:19.640 was like, this is a thing that happened, and there. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.560 Was a big expos in Christianity today. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.160 And I think he lives in California now and like 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.520 he is a podcast and it's of course like the 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.520 faction of the community that's like I don't understand why 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.040 Pastor I'm not going to say his name. I don't 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.560 understand why Pastor Blank is gone. Like this is like crazy, 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.359 Like people have sinned? Isn't that what we're about? Is 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.440 we sin and we are redeemed? Is that not our thing? 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.080 Which is crazy to me? 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.920 So let me just make sure what. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.599 You were expecting for today, this is what I was 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:48.200 hoping for. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.000 This is what I always want out of the podcast, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:58.039 and every guest until now has failed me. So it 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:02.560 is the official grand opening to hundred episodes later. Okay, 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:08.920 so Pastor blank Dale, Oh, I love that hires or 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.440 attempts to hire a hitman for two people. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.599 For two people, the Unity today was doing the expos 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.000 about like basically siphoning money. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.919 Off of the church towards the mini mansion. Yes, gets ousted, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.680 then moves to California and starts a podcast. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.200 I think he just sort of like had his side 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:28.440 gig because it was one of those things where he 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.880 was like like a at least a local celeb pastor. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:33.600 So it was one of those things where that I'm 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.640 assuming was where he got like early podcast money. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:37.960 First. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.400 Oh, inter he was he was in with the stamp 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.760 monkey or what was that thing called male monkey, chimp mail. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:45.280 Chip, mail. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.920 In box, chimp for whatever it's called. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:56.360 Sounds right, I'm too nervous to do that. I will 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:57.560 agree hard with you. 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.200 One of those names must be the name of a 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:04.359 business that was probably early podcast money. All that aside, 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.440 there were no criminal charges, I. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:07.880 Don't think so Wow. 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.840 I think it was like speculation, speculation enough, like he said, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.960 he said that it was the type of thing where 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.240 it was he got ousted from the church, and I think, 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:20.000 you know, especially fifteen years ago, that would have been 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:21.720 like a scandal that nobody ever would. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.040 Have come back from. Right, And now it's sort of 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:25.960 just like you can do whatever you want. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.600 Yeah, like in a post sorry to say, a Trump world, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.000 we're just sort of like, I don't know, Maybe he's right. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.600 Maybe it's did they think about maybe they should allow 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.160 him to put a hit on those people? Maybe they 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.640 shouldn't be here? Like that was sort of like the vibe. 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:44.040 Getting away with murder. I'm always like, when you're hiring 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.760 a hit man? Sure, where do you start? 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:47.600 A great question? 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:48.800 Did you ask around? 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:49.240 Yeah? 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:50.440 Do you put out like an Instagram? 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:55.400 Uh? Close friends question? Yeah? Hey guys, kind of a 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.480 private issue, but I have two people that need to 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:58.360 be dad. They did. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:07:59.760 Do you want me to google this? 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.840 Oh? Let's get you. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.360 On So sorry, but I'm kind of dying to know, 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.440 is it? I feel like Craigslist has to be the 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:09.320 only safe place. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.440 For that these days, right, maybe dark web? 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:12.040 Dark web? 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:13.960 Well, but this was probably prior to dark web. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.160 Can you stumble upon the dark web? That's actually a 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:17.280 legitimate fear offy. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.760 Kind of like getting into lost forest or something. Certainly 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.280 like those cartoon eyes in the dark and you hear 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.720 like the howls of wolves and that kind of thing. Yes, 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.720 I don't think you can stumble. I think you have 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.880 to make a real effort. Okay, I think you have 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.080 to get like a maybe it's mail chimp. I think 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:33.640 that it must be called male chimp. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.280 That sounds it is you said it, and something inside 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:36.800 me awoke. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.960 Yeah, it's like remembering an old song. Yes, we're not 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.360 going to associate male chimp with the dark Web. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.040 Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly allegedly, we don't know, and we wouldn't speculate. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.600 I assume that's how their businesses. They get you into 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:51.120 the dark Web. 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.240 It's just like, how are they still making money? I 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:54.880 had a streaming service. I think for a little bit 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:55.120 of my. 0:08:55.040 --> 0:09:01.400 Crazy, streaming services simply aren't making much. Sure, dark Web, 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:02.960 I think you have to get like a different browser. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.440 Let's say you have you probably download I Fox dark Web. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:07.400 That's what Firefox is. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:11.440 Firefox interesting or opera Opera sounds like the browser you 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:12.560 would get into the dark web. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:13.160 Opera like that? 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.280 Is that the type of one where like they donate 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:16.960 a tree for every Google search you do. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:18.360 I know what I'm talking about. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:20.960 There are too many trees at. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.839 This point, there's too get them out of here. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.520 You have to burn these things down. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.040 That's what because now the rain comes because they know 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.080 how many trees we've got, right exactly, So keep your 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:34.000 house dry. You're very anti rain, I've heard, especially in southern. 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:37.000 Telifornia, the anti rain. I want, i want this to 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.720 be a full desert. I'm ready for the water wars. Yeah, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.560 i am. I'm one of the few people that's like, 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.280 I'm stalking the water in my house. I've got bottles 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.720 and bottles. I'm ready to sell the water to people 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:48.400 who are dying. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:49.959 I really love that. I'm sorry. I know this is 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:51.720 your show, but I'm desperate to ask a question. 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:52.360 Please. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.480 You said, ex Mormon, how long you've been out of. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:10:01.280 Mormonism is That's a great question. It's I don't know, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.000 like the slow exit began when I was maybe twenty 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.280 is oh baby, But then it was a decade before 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.520 I came out. And then but like in that decade 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.360 was the real leaving the church. Sure, and then once 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:22.600 you're professionally gay, then it's like they would have kicked 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:23.240 me out anyway. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:24.040 Yeah. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.640 So it's some people like they get really involved, there's 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.920 like excommunication and all this, but then you kind of 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.000 have to play their game with them, and it's like, well, 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:34.280 just leave me alone. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.720 Yeah, there was a big Sister Wives fan over here. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.920 Yeah it is oh man, just like so delightful. Though 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:46.000 then I found out again allegedly they're all in MLMs, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.160 and that made me like it was hard because in 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:49.640 the off season when all of them left Cody, I 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.920 was like, amazing, fantastic, fabulous, And then I went to 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.080 Christian's Instagram and I was like, oh, no, we are 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:56.960 actively all in MLMs. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.359 Which is are they different MLMs? 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.319 It's one MLM. I can't remember what it is specifically. 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.719 I think I want to say it's a shampoo, but no, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:05.640 it's diet stuff. 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.080 Diet stuff. That's a big one. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.959 It's a big one. And as somebody, I come from 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:13.440 an MLM family. So my cousin Barbara isn't listening to this. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:14.679 But if she is. 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:20.640 Well, and the good news is you're gonna have to 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.200 sell the house after that, so there's not going. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:31.680 To be an issue lawsuits. Your cousin Barbara sure allegedly allegedly, Yeah, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.880 she does have a babs in her Instagram. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.480 I'm scared people are going to go find her. Don't 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.080 talk to her about this. I'm begging you. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.640 I can't. My family can't handle this. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:45.040 What was she selling? Am I a little bit? 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:45.520 Do you know? 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.240 Girl in the Pearl, are you familiar? 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:47.960 No? What's this? 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:49.160 My god? 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.319 I'm kind of obsessed with it. It's a little bit 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.240 incredible if I think about it. Actually, it's largely and 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.800 as all of them Marty stays based on Facebook Live. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.640 What is it called up up so, what's the real name? 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.520 What's the quote real name for it? 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:05.360 For MLMs? 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.720 Yeah, oh, pipeline marketing. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.400 You know the bad words for pyramid scheme. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:12.160 Pyramid scheme. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.040 They call it like direct direct sales. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.679 Direct sales, which aren't all sales. Kind of direct sales. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.280 Yeah, I feel like I mean, if you're buying something 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.520 from a grocery store, aren't you directly buying from a grocery. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.520 I guess it's more you're being direct to the person 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.080 rather than them coming to you. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:27.600 Sure. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.080 Annoying sale, right, annoying sales? Yes, just being irritating. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:32.560 Girl and the Pearl. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.360 You basically it's a lot of being like, Okay, I 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:36.960 have an oyster. I have an oyster who in the 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.960 chat would like to buy this oyster and then we 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.000 can put it in any kind of set, and so like, oh, 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.200 I'm hearing maybe there's two pearls in here, Like let's 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.080 take a peek at this, and then you open it 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.120 up on the live and be like, here's your pearl. 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.040 This is your pearl, and it's going to go in whatever, 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:50.960 like jewelry set you wanted to go in. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.320 This is like lottery. This feels illegal. Yeah, you're buying. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.160 And I thought that this was all going to be metaphorical, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.640 and they're literally literal. 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:04.160 Oyster, a old girl, a woman opening a graduating girl 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:09.400 is opening a pearl, is prying open an oyster on camera? 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.040 Is there ever no pearl? 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:13.880 Probably? 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:15.640 So, I think it's kind of one of those things 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.040 where I'm like, I think they. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:18.720 To rig it, juice it up. 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.360 I think they got to rig it a little bit. Yeah, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.440 maybe that's the that's the lottery portion of it. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.160 They get away with it because it's a guaranteed pearl. 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:27.120 It's a guaranteed girl. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.400 Are there ever, like they open it in just dozens 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.719 of pearls? Fim, It's like this disgusting. Does that ever 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:33.640 happen with an oyster? 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.360 Gotta at some point, right, I think I. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.559 Do think if you if you say something out loud, 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:39.040 it's happened. 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:40.840 I think so too, because it is I have no 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.920 idea is a new idea, And if there's no new ideas, 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.280 then technically it's out there somewhere exactly where to come from. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.600 And it's like there's octomom, So why couldn't there be autoclam? 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.960 You know? I mean, I fully agreed. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.040 You said it. I feel great about it. 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.320 So are you are you watching these live Facebook Facebook client? 0:13:58.760 --> 0:13:58.920 Oh? 0:13:58.960 --> 0:13:59.960 I've got to get back on faceboo? 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.280 Well, the company is deceased, defunct. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.880 Deceased out of money instead, alright. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.240 It's like themes is out of money. 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.080 I think that they got sued a bunch of times 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.480 because the oysters were coming. Like, I do have a story. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.199 I'll tell you later, but I can't tell you here 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.079 because I feel like I'm already tearing my family apart 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:16.800 with this little. 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.640 Your lawyer has quit. Yeah, okay, I've got Girl in 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.440 the Pearl, Girl in the Pearl. Are you aware of 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.160 any other MLMs currently happening? 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:25.640 Of course? 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:26.520 What are some others. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.360 I mean, like you got the classics herbal life, did 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:29.920 you ever do that? 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:31.600 There is a shampoo one? Do you know what I'm 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:32.440 talking about? 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:39.040 Shampoo I didn't have to do with chessan. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.000 Oh, chess got to be sounds like we talked about 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:42.440 the board. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.160 Yeah. Yeah, he had a hair that he had a 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.680 shampoo that's making people's hair fall out. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.880 Well, okay, so I think this monette also was making 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.680 people really sick and making their hair fall out. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:51.240 And that one was. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.360 Also because I think it's a it is a pyramid 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:54.800 direct marketing scheme. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.400 Can you still call it scheme if it's the good 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:57.000 word for it? 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:57.800 Sure? 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.960 Okay, the direct marketing scheme, the dreg sales scheme is 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.480 I think it is like it's all about people buying 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.360 your downline and being like you're gonna be a part 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:07.440 of this and you're going to sell and. 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:08.720 You're going to buy a bunch of the products or 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.320 garage is going to be full of this product that 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:11.479 no one wants. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:17.080 Exactly, So I know that's one Herbal life is urban life. 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.400 Is the essential oils, right. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:19.840 I think so? 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.320 And then powders and like a skinny tea want it 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:23.200 feels like it's got to be. 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.320 I mean, if then they made a big mistake with 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.880 that name. If that's not an MLM. Yeah, that's not 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.040 a product somebody buys off a show regularly. Skinny te 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:33.040 skinny tea. 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:34.840 But that you know, we say that, and then there's 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:36.920 Bethany's got the skinny Margarita mix. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.400 Yeah, but she was kind of the original. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.160 Yeah, and trendsetter. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.760 It's also yeah, skinny tea. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:45.280 Skinny tea. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.040 What is that? I don't know, Methy. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.440 It's the thing that influencers are interesting. 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.600 Influencers and MLM go very hand in hand. Interesting. 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.360 Why do you become an influencer if not to be 0:15:58.360 --> 0:15:59.720 the top of an MLAM. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.600 It is kind of just an MLM. Sure you just 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.240 have that pyramid of followers, Permi Well, I. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.280 Mean, yeah, I guess that is Instagram in general. Is 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:08.240 Instagram and mL. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:09.640 I've exposed something big here. 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:10.560 I think this is huge. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.360 It goes all the way to at the end of 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:16.680 this episode, Pastor Dale is going to call a hit 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:17.120 on us. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:18.800 We've said too much. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.520 We can now reveal that Pastor Dale is Mark Zuckerberg. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.840 Is Mark Zuckerberg on at least, did you ever. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.680 Get any information about hiring a hit person. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:31.800 Orne I'm on a monet, yes, but also uh, hiring hitman. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:38.480 I found a Cora article which is always trust hiring. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:38.680 A hit man? 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:39.000 Real? 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.200 How do I hire one? 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.400 And basically I'm just going to kind of summarize a 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.320 lot of the tips that this person gave was like, 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.320 just take advantage of vulnerable people. It's like, go hang 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.200 out near the border of Mexico, like go hang out 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:57.200 near a halfway house people, or like you know, military basis, 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.040 like people looking to make an extra buck. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:00.400 Like that's essentially our these. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.840