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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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Speaker 2: But you're a.

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Speaker 3: Guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty.

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Speaker 1: And I said, no, guest, your presences presents enough. I

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Speaker 1: already had too much stuff.

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Speaker 3: So how did you dare to surbey me?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gift. I'm Bridger Wine girl.

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Speaker 2: We are in the backyard. We're here. I hope you

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Speaker 2: feel okay. I hope you feel fine. It's been raining

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Speaker 2: for about four days. The rain do they say the

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Speaker 2: rain is broken? It's gone. The skies are crystal clear.

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Speaker 2: And I know you know. A large chunk of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three on this podcast was spent talking about my

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Speaker 2: home flooding. It was just kind of a NonStop topic.

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Speaker 2: I know you're sick of it. Everyone's sick of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sick of it. Apparently even God wanted a new

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Speaker 2: topic on this podcast. Because the house did not flood

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Speaker 2: this time, I can reveal today that my home is

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Speaker 2: dry for now. So let's all just be thrilled. I'm

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Speaker 2: riding a high that's indescribable. Let's get into the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is so funny, so excited to talk to them.

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Speaker 2: It's Vic Machayliss. Oh wow, Vic, I'm just looking dry,

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Speaker 2: dry as a bone.

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Speaker 4: I thought that before, and I'm a little behind the music.

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Speaker 4: I think with this you did fully turn away for

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Speaker 4: and you said it, and then I.

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Speaker 3: Thought, wow, dry as a bone.

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Speaker 2: Everything, shoes to hair, everything is, the world is dry.

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Speaker 2: The inside of my house is dry.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, by the way, so.

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Speaker 2: Much, thank you for your support. The listeners have been

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Speaker 2: very supportive. Onalise did not reach out. You know, we're feuding.

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Speaker 4: Tough because I would have assumed you'd seen each other

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Speaker 2: No, no interest on Realise is not interested in the

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a choice. No, it's fine. I'm not judging.

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Speaker 3: It's you know. Would I have reached out, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Had we known each other prior to right now,

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Speaker 4: Had I seen on Twitter from a stranger that there

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Speaker 2: I wanted to know how was the rain for you?

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Speaker 3: Fine? Fine, honestly fun.

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Speaker 4: I have spent a lot of time in the Pacific Northwest.

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Speaker 3: So it's like a snow day for rain.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's like it's fun, It's it's costplaying rain

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: You feel like it's Yeah, it's because we're not used

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Speaker 3: Have you spent much time like in places where it

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Speaker 2: No, I grew up in a desert. I live in

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a surprise desert. I mean, Salt Lake

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Speaker 3: It's not like mask Mormon x X.

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Speaker 2: But yes, previous Mormon, I'm obsessed you are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I also grew up and I'm if this is offensive?

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Speaker 4: Let me know cult adjacent where I'm not denominational, like big, big,

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Speaker 2: So was there a name? What was the deal?

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Speaker 3: Harvest Bible Chapel.

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Speaker 2: I love that name.

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Speaker 4: Do a regular church at Christ Community Church, and then

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Speaker 4: It was one of those things where like our pastor was,

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Speaker 3: You were expecting for today, this is what I was

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Speaker 2: This is what I always want out of the podcast,

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Speaker 2: so Pastor blank Dale, Oh, I love that hires or

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Speaker 4: For two people, the Unity today was doing the expos

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Speaker 2: Oh, inter he was he was in with the stamp

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Speaker 2: monkey or what was that thing called male monkey, chimp mail.

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Speaker 4: Sounds right, I'm too nervous to do that. I will

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Speaker 4: you know, especially fifteen years ago, that would have been

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Speaker 3: Have come back from. Right, And now it's sort of

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's did they think about maybe they should allow

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Speaker 2: Getting away with murder. I'm always like, when you're hiring

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Speaker 2: a hit man? Sure, where do you start?

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Speaker 3: A great question?

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Speaker 2: Did you ask around?

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Speaker 3: Do you put out like an Instagram?

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Speaker 3: Do you want me to google this?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Let's get you.

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Speaker 2: For that these days, right, maybe dark web?

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Speaker 3: That sounds it is you said it, and something inside

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Speaker 4: it's diet stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well, and the good news is you're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: I'm scared people are going to go find her. Don't

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Speaker 3: I can't. My family can't handle this.

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Speaker 2: What was she selling? Am I a little bit?

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Speaker 4: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: Girl in the Pearl, are you familiar?

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Speaker 2: No? What's this?

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of obsessed with it. It's a little bit

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Speaker 4: What is it called up up so, what's the real name?

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Speaker 3: What's the quote real name for it?

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Speaker 2: For MLMs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, pipeline marketing.

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Speaker 2: You know the bad words for pyramid scheme.

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Speaker 3: Pyramid scheme.

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Speaker 2: They call it like direct direct sales.

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Speaker 3: Direct sales, which aren't all sales. Kind of direct sales.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I mean, if you're buying something

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Speaker 2: I guess it's more you're being direct to the person

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Speaker 2: Annoying sale, right, annoying sales? Yes, just being irritating.

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Speaker 3: Girl and the Pearl.

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Speaker 4: You basically it's a lot of being like, Okay, I

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Speaker 4: This is your pearl, and it's going to go in whatever,

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Speaker 4: like jewelry set you wanted to go in.

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Speaker 2: This is like lottery. This feels illegal. Yeah, you're buying.

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Speaker 2: And I thought that this was all going to be metaphorical,

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Speaker 2: and they're literally literal.

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Speaker 5: Oyster, a old girl, a woman opening a graduating girl

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Speaker 5: is opening a pearl, is prying open an oyster on camera?

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Speaker 2: Is there ever no pearl?

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Speaker 4: So, I think it's kind of one of those things

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Speaker 4: I think they got to rig it a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe that's the that's the lottery portion of it.

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Speaker 2: They get away with it because it's a guaranteed pearl.

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Speaker 3: It's a guaranteed girl.

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Speaker 2: Are there ever, like they open it in just dozens

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Speaker 2: of pearls? Fim, It's like this disgusting. Does that ever

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Speaker 2: happen with an oyster?

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Speaker 3: Gotta at some point, right, I think I.

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Speaker 2: Do think if you if you say something out loud,

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Speaker 4: I think so too, because it is I have no

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Speaker 4: then technically it's out there somewhere exactly where to come from.

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Speaker 3: And it's like there's octomom, So why couldn't there be autoclam?

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Speaker 2: You know? I mean, I fully agreed.

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Speaker 3: You said it. I feel great about it.

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Speaker 2: So are you are you watching these live Facebook Facebook client?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I've got to get back on faceboo?

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Speaker 3: Well, the company is deceased, defunct.

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Speaker 2: Deceased out of money instead, alright.

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Speaker 3: It's like themes is out of money.

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Speaker 4: I think that they got sued a bunch of times

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Speaker 4: because the oysters were coming. Like, I do have a story.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you later, but I can't tell you here

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Speaker 4: because I feel like I'm already tearing my family apart

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Speaker 2: Your lawyer has quit. Yeah, okay, I've got Girl in

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Speaker 2: the Pearl, Girl in the Pearl. Are you aware of

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Speaker 2: any other MLMs currently happening?

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Speaker 3: Of course?

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Speaker 2: What are some others.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like you got the classics herbal life, did

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Speaker 3: There is a shampoo one? Do you know what I'm

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Speaker 2: Shampoo I didn't have to do with chessan.

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Speaker 3: Oh, chess got to be sounds like we talked about

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he had a hair that he had a

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, so I think this monette also was making

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Speaker 4: Also because I think it's a it is a pyramid

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Speaker 3: Can you still call it scheme if it's the good

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Okay, the direct marketing scheme, the dreg sales scheme is

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Speaker 4: I think it is like it's all about people buying

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Speaker 2: You're going to buy a bunch of the products or

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Speaker 4: Exactly, So I know that's one Herbal life is urban life.

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Speaker 2: Is the essential oils, right.

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Speaker 4: And then powders and like a skinny tea want it

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Speaker 2: I mean, if then they made a big mistake with

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Speaker 2: that name. If that's not an MLM. Yeah, that's not

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Speaker 2: a product somebody buys off a show regularly. Skinny te

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Speaker 4: But that you know, we say that, and then there's

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Speaker 4: Bethany's got the skinny Margarita mix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but she was kind of the original.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and trendsetter.

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Speaker 2: It's also yeah, skinny tea.

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Speaker 3: Skinny tea.

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Speaker 2: What is that? I don't know, Methy.

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Speaker 3: It's the thing that influencers are interesting.

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Speaker 2: Influencers and MLM go very hand in hand. Interesting.

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Speaker 4: Why do you become an influencer if not to be

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Speaker 2: It is kind of just an MLM. Sure you just

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Speaker 2: have that pyramid of followers, Permi Well, I.

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Speaker 2: I've exposed something big here.

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Speaker 3: I think this is huge.

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Speaker 4: It goes all the way to at the end of

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Speaker 4: this episode, Pastor Dale is going to call a hit

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Speaker 3: We've said too much.

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Speaker 2: We can now reveal that Pastor Dale is Mark Zuckerberg.

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Speaker 3: Is Mark Zuckerberg on at least, did you ever.

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Speaker 2: Get any information about hiring a hit person.

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Speaker 6: Orne I'm on a monet, yes, but also uh, hiring hitman.

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Speaker 6: I found a Cora article which is always trust hiring.

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Speaker 3: A hit man?

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Speaker 2: Real?

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Speaker 3: How do I hire one?

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Speaker 6: And basically I'm just going to kind of summarize a

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Speaker 3: Like that's essentially our these.

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Speaker 4: Copywriters that are writing this, I feel like it's got

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Speaker 3: But immediately I am exing out of this.

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Speaker 6: I already wrote a note to my FBI agent in

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Speaker 6: a separate search window.

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Speaker 3: My job. I'm a I'm on a podcast and I

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Speaker 3: have to look up weird things. Please do not arrest me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah wow. So basically, just find someone desperate enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: get on task, grab it, look, get on fiver.

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Speaker 4: I mean I guess that's like anything, right, Yeah, anybody's

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Speaker 3: For money that you have to do it.

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Speaker 2: We're all hit men on some level. We're just you know,

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Speaker 2: So what was your exit from the situation? The religious

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Speaker 4: had this big because I still a little bit like

451
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 4: the scariest thing that can that I can watch is

452
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,639
Speaker 4: like demons and ghosts, like inhabiting people's because you a

453
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 4: little bit, I'm just like, you know, it's it's that

454
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 4: Who's that philosopher that talks about sort of like the

455
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 4: maybe of it all right, where.

456
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 3: It's like it's maybe like if God doesn't exist? Was

457
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,200
Speaker 3: it Pascal? Where he talks about like if God doesn't

458
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

459
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,719
Speaker 2: You're asking one of the dumbest people alive.

460
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 3: No, that's not true. That can't be true. I'm sitting

461
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 3: right across room you.

462
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 4: But it's that idea of like if God does exist

463
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 4: and you believe in him, then like and you say

464
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,920
Speaker 4: you believe in him, then like, what's the what's the harm?

465
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 3: The worst thing that can happen is that he doesn't exist?

466
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I think I really live by that

467
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 4: philosophy for a long time. But then also too, I

468
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 4: just like the fan club is tough, right right.

469
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a not a not an easy exit. No,

470
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: but yeah, ghosts off. I'm always like, well, I kind

471
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,399
Speaker 2: of hope I kind of hope I not come scare me.

472
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I kind of love that.

473
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 4: What would you come back as if you could like

474
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 4: come back as something you got to.

475
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 2: Pay like animal wise?

476
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, here's a two part question actually, because it's

477
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 4: sort of that idea of like if you think you're

478
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 4: assigned to something based on how you're living your life,

479
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 4: what do you think you come back as?

480
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 3: And then like in an ideal world, what would you know?

481
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So like what would I be kind of punished

482
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 2: because of how I am or gifted? Gifted? I would

483
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 2: say probably like a loose pet, like a small not

484
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 2: an animal that lives outside, maybe like a gerbil that

485
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 2: got out of its cage on the outside.

486
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 4: No, come on, you're painting yourself something that's like five

487
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 4: years top. Yes, come on, when I'm coming back a

488
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 4: cockatial at least something.

489
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 2: An escaped cockatail I could get into.

490
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 3: The free range cockatile Does that exist.

491
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: Or are they purely bred indoors?

492
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,439
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's a great question.

493
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 2: Parrots around here.

494
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 4: Are you saying a loose pet in terms of one

495
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 4: that got out and escaped and is now living in

496
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Speaker 4: the wild and.

497
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: Kind of just ward bound bound? Interesting?

498
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 3: Okay?

499
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 2: Interesting?

500
00:20:59,040 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 3: Let out on purpose?

501
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 2: Not on purpose escape? I think probably, Like in a.

502
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 4: Move the Bridgerie, you just describe yourself as the dumbest

503
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 4: person on the planet not one second ago, and you're

504
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 4: yet you are saying that you're smart enough to escape

505
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 4: and have and have the wherewithal to survive, and I

506
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 4: that reads.

507
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 3: Is true to me.

508
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 2: You're You've completely misheard me. Not escape. The family's moving.

509
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm in the cage. It falls out of the back

510
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 2: of the van, and I like the cage breaks, I

511
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: get out and now I that's that's.

512
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 4: What I'm coming surviving through the power of friendship and

513
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 4: maybe music.

514
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 2: I'm mouse in the motorcycle. I'm I love that Cricket

515
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 2: in Times Square? Did you ever read that book?

516
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 3: Didn't, But I'm gonna agree with you hard.

517
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: I got a little country mouse that goes to the city.

518
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: I love that Fido.

519
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 2: Fido is different.

520
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 3: No, you don't know Fi and you know cricket in

521
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 3: the mouse.

522
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: Fio Okay, you know fight. I know it is like

523
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: the Red Box version of that movie.

524
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: Sure as animated very quickly to compete.

525
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: By one of those West like companies in Taiwan or

526
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: whatever that do the cheap computer animation for.

527
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 3: Is that the song? Maybe finally, maybe I feel like

528
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 3: out there.

529
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 4: Somewhere out there is what I'm thinking of.

530
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: Five. I think have a lot of crossover in my mind,

531
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: similar story.

532
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: And totally sure why.

533
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 3: Not five will make it rich at the end of

534
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 3: that movie. I like to think so.

535
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: And is he also American tale?

536
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: Yes?

537
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: The other mouse family that immigrates.

538
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 3: Yes, they have to be confused with the Great Mouse Detective.

539
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: Oh, fully different.

540
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 3: They stay in Europe.

541
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: They stay in Europe and detect and detect different families.

542
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of them ran away from their problems. You

543
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 4: don't really sort of dug down and and found found

544
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 4: out that sometimes I love to start talking and I

545
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 4: don't totally know the end of a sentence is going.

546
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: It's like jumping off a bridge and then you.

547
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: Just find your way to the ground. Yeah, maybe it's water,

548
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: maybe it's concrete.

549
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: Yes, but it's do you get back up again? Sometimes?

550
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 4: Now I call it today what you were hoping for

551
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 4: when inviting me on this podcast.

552
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: I already told you this is what I was hoping for.

553
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: This is exactly what I'm big on. Communication.

554
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: There is something I didn't want on this podcast, or

555
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: something I didn't hope for sure. Look, Vic, I was

556
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: excited to have you here today, Thank you Bridger. I thought,

557
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: who knows where this is going to go? God only knows.

558
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: But we'll talk about something, Okay, hopefully they'll pitch me

559
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: an MLM. Yeah, we got close ish, but then you

560
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: showed up. Well. Actually, I guess I was a little

561
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: late to the podcast today because I came into that.

562
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 3: I was here Anneli's and I were chit chatting.

563
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: I heard laughter, chit chatting. I thought, what's going on

564
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: back here? So I walk up and here you're sitting

565
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: with from where I'm sitting and at the time was standing.

566
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: Appears to be a gift. The podcast called I said

567
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: no gifts.

568
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 4: Right, So I just I saw gifts and I said,

569
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 4: gott to bring one.

570
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: There's only one word you can read. Yeah, yeah, but

571
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: the gift is here. It's in a you know, like

572
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: a little box that's probably a foot long with little trucks.

573
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: Well you didn't see the best part season's greetings. Oh

574
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: and it's beautifully wrapped with This is duct tape. Yes,

575
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: this is duct silver, silver duct tape. I need a

576
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: roll of duct tape at home. You can use that.

577
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: Dang.

578
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 4: You know what. This really sucks to hear Bridger because

579
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 4: between this the other thing, and I'm not kidding I

580
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 4: was going to give you is I accidentally on Amazon

581
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: ordered some duct tape and they sent me twelve rolls

582
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 4: of welve and I almost give you six rolls of

583
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 4: duct tape.

584
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: Wow, your kids are going to inherit that. Yeah, grandchildren,

585
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: great grandchildren are going to be getting a duct tape.

586
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 4: Year after year. They'll pass it down log what is this.

587
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: It'll be sort of a ceremony.

588
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. I do need duct tape. I have

589
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: like blue painting tape.

590
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: Oh not the same, not the same.

591
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: Not that useful falls off pretty easily, especially on a wall,

592
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: falls right off the bone, like they say, Okay, well

593
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: the gift is here, should I open it here? On

594
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: the podcast, I think you should.

595
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I think at this point to be rude.

596
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: Not to it would be rude, and I'm, if anything

597
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: not rude.

598
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

599
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: Well, now I'm holding this and it felt like it

600
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: was gonna be one of those clothing boxes or like

601
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: the it's a hard box solid I'm going to open

602
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: it up here, says Season's Greetings has a cute little

603
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: red truck with a Christmas tree in the back.

604
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: Yep, and this is really impressive one hand opening wrapping.

605
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: You know, you get used to it.

606
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 4: I've seen your previous guests too.

607
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.

608
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 4: Previous guests who I know we're not supposed to bring

609
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 4: gifts also, but I did see would brought them in bags.

610
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: And now I'm kind of understanding why I love.

611
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: Opening and thank you Onalise. The listener loves to hear unwrapping.

612
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: You know, people love the unwrapping.

613
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 3: Is there a greater sound in the world.

614
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: I don't think there is.

615
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: I don't think there is, either the possibility.

616
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: Possibilities, the crunch. Yeah, it's very tactized. Sure, okay, okay,

617
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: so no, it's like in a hard free same day

618
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: pickup box from Walgreens. Huh.

619
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So my favorite place on the planet, by the way,

620
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: is it really yeah? The photos counter at Walgreens.

621
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: They have a photo counter.

622
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 3: They do.

623
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 4: I found it for the first time a few weeks ago,

624
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 4: and it's really kind of taken over my life.

625
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 2: Where is there a Walgreens in Los Angeles?

626
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: Do you know the Target on Western? Yes, right kitty

627
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 4: corner to there.

628
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: Oh, interesting, it's we have a lot of cvs. Sure,

629
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: as far as I know, does not have a photo counter.

630
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: I don't believe so, right, aid might depending on the

631
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: right aid.

632
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got to look up some of these because

633
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: I just had some photos developed. But okay, we're going

634
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: to open this up here.

635
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: Opening might want to flip.

636
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 4: That might be a little easier, and I'm going to

637
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 4: have to explain, Oh this is.

638
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, So this is like a like

639
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: a uh, what would you say, a wrapped piece of art?

640
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: Sure, yes, stretch I would art.

641
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: And I'm so glad that you called it that art.

642
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 4: It's stretched canvas one thousand percent. Now I really am

643
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 4: a sucker for like Ross. You can get those like

644
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: signs for homes live Laflow. Oh, of course you know

645
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: the rules, Grammar's rules for this house.

646
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: Maybe one of my own ones for uh some friends

647
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: who are getting married that said giggle give grow.

648
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: Oh I love that. You should say that out loud

649
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: on a podcast. You should copyright that first.

650
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: No, I'm going to wait for all these companies to

651
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: adopt it. Then I launch in with lawsuit after lawsuits.

652
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: This is hard because again you're not seeing that money

653
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 4: for years, and you're gonna need that for the lawsuits

654
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 4: that are being launched from today.

655
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. But when I get that money, I'll

656
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: use it for the medical bills as you know an

657
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: aging person. Oh sure, and the health system collapses, you

658
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: got to figure it out. Social Security has gone that

659
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: kind of thing. I'm still in these lawsuits.

660
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 4: Right and they're sort of resolving, and so then you're

661
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: getting that influx.

662
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: Of finally checks are poring. Yes, okay, So it's like

663
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: a wrapped canvas that you've obviously made or had made.

664
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: I made it. I got a free trial of a

665
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: Canvas Pro account.

666
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

667
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 4: So that's part of the gift. Also, if you want

668
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: that login info I can reach out. That seems like

669
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: a podcast sponsor, canvaprow? Yeah, they should be sponsoring something.

670
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: What is it? They really should?

671
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: We've said their name three times now, Oh my god.

672
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: Oh the money, the opportunities for money on this podcast

673
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: that don't actually pan out yet that's the problem.

674
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 5: Yet?

675
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: Thank you yet? Yet? Okay? You had this, you made this,

676
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: You've designed it. Should I read it or do you

677
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: want to explain it? Well?

678
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 4: Okay, first, I feel like maybe we need a little

679
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: bit of explanation. I don't ever come places empty handed.

680
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: I also don't ever come place as empty headed. I

681
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 4: wanted to do my research because you and I are

682
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: meeting for the first time or so. I really wanted

683
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: to make sure that I sort of knew who you

684
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: were as a person before.

685
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: I came out of this podcast. And sort of in

686
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: my research, I.

687
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 4: Found a YouTube channel that had sixty nine followers, and

688
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 4: I was sort of looking. I was like, oh, maybe

689
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: there was some beautiful stales of Mariah Carey music video.

690
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, does that sound familiar?

691
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: Yes, linked to your Twitter, So I did assume it

692
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: was yours.

693
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: Such an old memory.

694
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: It was sixteen years ago exactly, so sort of I'm

695
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: like doing some more googling. I'm looking around and obviously

696
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: you are a very accomplished person. So I'm getting a

697
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: lot of articles about this podcast and some of your

698
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: writing and things like that, and I'm like, that's exciting,

699
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: but that's also things that people know when you remember.

700
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: And I also think a gift is a memory, right,

701
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: And so I thought, what better memory than a clip

702
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 4: of a podcast you did seven years ago with a

703
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: man whose name I can't remember right now, where you

704
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: gave advice to PA is somebody that wants to be

705
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: a PA?

706
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: Just some rules of advice.

707
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: People possibly imagine what was said on this podcast.

708
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: Well, you don't have to imagine, because it is in

709
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: the list style on this sort of ship lap?

710
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: Is this ship lap? Is that what shiplap is? Pieces

711
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: of on top of each other?

712
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: You're embarrassing secret? Okay, you know I watch a lot

713
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: of HGTV. I'm very familiar with Chip and Joanne all

714
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: of this stuff, right, And I've heard the word ship

715
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: lap a billion times. I always just kind of act

716
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: like I know what that is. Yeah, I always imagine

717
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: it's like those white boards wall.

718
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: That sounds right, So this is this right sort of

719
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: like a more rot.

720
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: The outside of a haunted house.

721
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: That's that was exactly what I typed into Cambaprow.

722
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: The texture here is kind of like a cabin in

723
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: the woods that has been left abandoned, and there's like

724
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: the ghost of a lumberjacket.

725
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: I did see if Walgreen could put this on boards,

726
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: sort of haunted boards, and they said no, So we did,

727
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: and I had to go through Walgreens because again, I've

728
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: got friends over there now and I got to keep

729
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: them in business.

730
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: But it is kind of like or like the uh

731
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: bark of a cottonwood tree. Yes, that's so.

732
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: I so sort of between on the thirty one second

733
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: mark and the one to eight second mark, you gave

734
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 4: a series of rules to this podcast host about somebody

735
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: that's looking to be a PA. What advice you would

736
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: give them? Right, And that is these rules here.

737
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: Yes, because for a too long of a period of time,

738
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: I worked as a production assistant on a tea show

739
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: which became an absolute nightmare.

740
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

741
00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: I can imagine.

742
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: Well, because sometimes it's that thing where you're too good

743
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: at your job and so people don't want to promote you.

744
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: Not the case here. Oh I see, I think it

745
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: was just kind of a it'll never be explained.

746
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: Well, at this point in this podcast, this was seven

747
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: years ago.

748
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: Seven years you were already writing at Jimmy Kimmel Live

749
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: exclamation point because that was your credit as you were

750
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: credited in the podcast. So you were looking back on

751
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: this experience this right way. You're not in the middle

752
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: of it.

753
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: Not in the middle of it.

754
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: You're giving advice.

755
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: I had made it out. Okay, should I read this?

756
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: I think it's a great horrifying no, no, no.

757
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: No no. This is Bridger Weiniger's advice for PA's Okay.

758
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: Number one, don't give up. Yeah, and let's be honest,

759
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: I have to I have to hope within the context

760
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: of me speaking on the podcast, there was a little

761
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: bit more than me, just you know. Number one don't.

762
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: Say is like so again. This comes with the thirty

763
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: one second mark of this clip. There's a full podcast

764
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: outside of it, but it has been clipped for social media,

765
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: which at seven.

766
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: Years ago, I think happened.

767
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: At seven years ago is a pretty forward thinking thing

768
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: to Darry.

769
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean, good grief. Okay. Number two, just keep doing

770
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: everything you can outside of that job to make yourself

771
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: visible on some level.

772
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure I was quoting you precisely.

773
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: Number three, know that it will not last forever. Yeah. Interesting,

774
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: that's a nice piece of advice actually, because when I

775
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: was in it, it was like, well, I guess I'll

776
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: die doing this.

777
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: It seems all consuming it. Well hold that thought because

778
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: it comes that comes back later.

779
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: Okay, number four, at some point this is going to

780
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: be over with. Okay, number five, you'll either die of interest.

781
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: So I did full disclosure going into this next one,

782
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: just you know, want to make this next point.

783
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: Of five B. But because of the MLA format that

784
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: I guess Canvapro is stuck in, it would not allow

785
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: me to do that in the same font, and for me,

786
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: the aesthetic was improved.

787
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: Of course, this is a gorgeous piece of art.

788
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: Thank you for saying that.

789
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so number five, you'll either die or number six

790
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: or find a way out, and both will be a

791
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: better thing than what you're doing.

792
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: Yes, And I was actually hoping for a little bit

793
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: more explanation on that.

794
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: So at the what I'm telling people is dying is

795
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: better than what you're doing, sure or or finding your

796
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: way out. Yes, So I guess me and I can

797
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: kind of support my mental state. At the time, dying

798
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: did seem like a bet and options at least a freedom.

799
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: Sure Number seven just let just okay, So this is

800
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: again verbatim, This is I just again.

801
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: I really wanted to make sure I didn't want to

802
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: deviate at all. I didn't know you.

803
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: I didn't know how important it was going to be

804
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: to captivate to be misquoted. Well, that's what I thought,

805
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: and so I wanted to make sure people had the

806
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 4: full contacts.

807
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: This is just like, do the best job you can

808
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: and be as nice to everyone around you as you can.

809
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: That's a nice piece of advice.

810
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: That is actually of and I don't want to put

811
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: value judgments on anything.

812
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: I read that, and I was like, that is an

813
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: excellent piece of advice.

814
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: That is I think of the of the eight points,

815
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: the point that I'm going to carry through and I'm

816
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 4: going to remember the one.

817
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: Piece of advice that I didn't follow. I wasn't doing

818
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: the best job I could. I was very I mean,

819
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: three years into this thing, I was like, I can't

820
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: do this any so.

821
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: Can I be honest with you?

822
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: I was thinking about changing the font for this so

823
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 4: that way I could catch sort of the intonation a

824
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: little bit. So the rest of this is you can

825
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: sort of see it as in a beautiful cursive and

826
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 4: so that one I was sort of thinking put in

827
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: maybe an aerial font or something like that to sort

828
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: of get the tone, which was like, you know, do

829
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: the best you can, like sort of like do the

830
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 4: best you can with what you have was sort of

831
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: the feeling behind that, with the energy that you had to.

832
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: Give what was happening on this podcast. And then number

833
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: eight hope for the best, Hope for the best. That's

834
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: kind of just like I don't know what to tell you.

835
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 4: Try you know, hey, it's out of your hands at

836
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 4: that point, there's greater powers at play. I think that

837
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: this was a wonderful list of rules, and coming into

838
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 4: it not knowing you, I was like, this is a

839
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 4: thing that I feel like I got to know you

840
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: better through this, and so I wanted to immortalize that

841
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: way other people could also get to know you better.

842
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: Well. This must have been maybe not the first podcast

843
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: I did. I think the first podcast I ever did

844
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: was do you need a ride because they need to

845
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: ride to the airport? Oh?

846
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: Fun?

847
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: But this must have been an early thing I can't

848
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: imagine what else was said on that how many years

849
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: of past seven I do have.

850
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 4: The YouTube link if you want to go back and

851
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 4: watch it at this point, so you're more than welcome

852
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: to you not mortifying, pretty cool and fun.

853
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: Actually, do you have any old YouTube clips that you're like,

854
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: get this off the internet?

855
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure I do.

856
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: I'm positive because I grew up in a time especially

857
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 4: where we had the power of YouTube, but also didn't

858
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 4: really understand.

859
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: The impact, you know what I mean, like early fire.

860
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I deactivated my Facebook, so I feel comfortable saying this,

861
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: but I have a lot of Facebook videos of me

862
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: doing video responses to things that people posted on my wall,

863
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 4: so with me being like hey, but it was also

864
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: me like doing it for other people, right, so it

865
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 4: was like me being like, hey, back up, sorry one second,

866
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: I like take a second to like answer a text

867
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 4: message on my phone and do a very performative like So, yeah,

868
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like school was fun. I got soccer

869
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: practice after this. They're making me play. They're making me

870
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 4: play midfielder because I run so well.

871
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: So I've got like videos like.

872
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: That comment after comment, just.

873
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: Truly videos on my MacBook camera that I am posting

874
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: on people's walls and it is mortifying. But I also

875
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: did download them just in case, of course, because I

876
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: think that is the sickness that we all have rights.

877
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: I was like, I might need this for a show

878
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: at some point.

879
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is material. Yeah, God to hoard the material

880
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: is what you're gonna be able to make of it.

881
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: But I would say, this is not embarrassing.

882
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 4: This is excellent advice, and I felt so I felt

883
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: so privileged and happy to have this to know you

884
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: better as a person.

885
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: And it's a slice of life.

886
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: Right, That's how we look at it now, because now,

887
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: how much does it matter having stuff online for future jobs?

888
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: It can't unless it's awful, right, terrible? Yeah?

889
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'm curious about this video job wise,

890
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: like pa type jobs, did you ever have anything like this?

891
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: I didn't, but I did work on a prank show,

892
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 3: so talk about things.

893
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 4: So you asked me if I had anything embarrassing online,

894
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: and I went really far back, but this was.

895
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: Not that far back.

896
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 2: What was the prank show?

897
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm fearful because this is on Amazon right now?

898
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: Oh it is I think aired in Ukraine only it is.

899
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 3: It is celebrities pranking their fans.

900
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: It was called it was called You've Been had Celebrity

901
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: Edition and there's no other addition. It's just no other editions.

902
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: And it was like people that were like.

903
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: Teens on eighties shows were there, and Gilberto fred was

904
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: on an episode.

905
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say names.

906
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: It's very findable, but I'm scared it was well, I'll

907
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: say it.

908
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: Josie Davis was the one on one that I did.

909
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: Was on Charles in Charge.

910
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: I believe Scott Bail was in charge.

911
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 4: You nailed it then in that case, fantastic. Yes, so yes,

912
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 4: Charle's in charge. A lot of the Charles in Charge cast,

913
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: but yeah, it was then like Gilbert Gofried I was

914
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 4: supposed to do with David Orcatte and he didn't show up.

915
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: But that was okay. That was sort of the vibe of.

916
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: What were the pranks you were doing?

917
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 6: Oh?

918
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: Really honestly kind of scary at one point, so because

919
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: it was so the first one alone behind the curtains.

920
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: Again, we're getting sued, We're getting sued all the way.

921
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 4: And this was also I think twenty sixteen, so statute

922
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: of Limitations.

923
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, cool, seven years, Yeah.

924
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: A seven years.

925
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 4: So this was literally what I was doing at the

926
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 4: same time as you were giving pa advice. I could

927
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 4: have used the advice. So one of the pranks was

928
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: and this was when they literally had found fans of this.

929
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: Person on the internet.

930
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: I won't say who again easily findable, but you don't

931
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: have to, and it's really.

932
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: Not worth that part of it.

933
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 4: They had this person pretend to shoplift and I was

934
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 4: like the person in the store working in the store,

935
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: and it was like the celebrity was trying to get

936
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: her fan to shoplift with her, and then I'm in

937
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: the store and then they have fake undercover police officers

938
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: that come in and are like, we caught you to shoplifting.

939
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: It was like legitimately, uh scary, and I would say

940
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 4: the fans didn't follow a great reaction to it.

941
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: Shock right was there like a public breakdown a little bit.

942
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 4: But then the producers was like, can you come back

943
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 4: and say I've been had?

944
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: And so.

945
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: We have an hour long break where this woman has

946
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: rightfully had a absolute breakdown about potentially being arrested, and

947
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 4: then she comes back and is like, well, this was fun.

948
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 4: I've been had, Like this is so fun, like and

949
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: then from there on out, they got they hired people

950
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: to get prayed, which I think is made us all

951
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 4: feel a lot better about the situation.

952
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: A little more moral. Yeah, but like every person had

953
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: to say, I've been had.

954
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to come back, and I believe this.

955
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 4: The phrase was I've been had, I've been had.

956
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: It's such an old fashioned thing. Yeah.

957
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 4: And again it went one season and I did think

958
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: I do think only aired somewhere I think Ukraine, but

959
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: it was somewhere in eastern Europe and then and then

960
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: was on Amazon at least for a little bit, and

961
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: I think, wow, hopefully you can't find it anyway.

962
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: What was what was the fake thing that? I mean?

963
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: What was being shoplifted clothes? I think cloth?

964
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: It went for lunch earlier next door.

965
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: But again, it's like a tough it's a really tough

966
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 4: premise for a show, because it's theoretically fans that are

967
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: so excited about meeting a celebrity that they're a fan

968
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: of and then are just like getting punk style pranked

969
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: in ways that are tough.

970
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: I remember arriving on set and then being like, okay,

971
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: so here's the premise.

972
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: And I just remember going we're sure that this is

973
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 4: what we want to do with this, and them going yep,

974
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 4: it's gonna be very funny and going ohky.

975
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: The fan is going to kill the celebrity spouse.

976
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah it's a murder. Yeah, there's a murder.

977
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really interesting. And the shoplifting we can get

978
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: away from this. But how was the shoplifting done like

979
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: shoving it in their pants or was it going on

980
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: celebrity being.

981
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: Like, watch I do this all the time. I come

982
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: here all the time and I do this, and it

983
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: was like putting stuff in their bag. And it also

984
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 4: was a moment too of the fan being like what

985
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: is going on? Like clearly being like and then them

986
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: in my ear being.

987
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: Like, she's onto us, she's onto us. Say something that

988
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: a shop work would say, say something that a shop

989
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: clerk would.

990
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: Say, welcome in.

991
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was high pressure.

992
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 4: Really so I have never been a PA, but that

993
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 4: is the closest thing.

994
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: I'm getting yelled at a lot to sort of like

995
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: say things, how long did you do things? On and off?

996
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: I think I got it was like when I had

997
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 4: just started at UCB, and it was one of those

998
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 4: things where like the casting blasts came in like, oh,

999
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 4: you can work on this prank show, and I was like, yeah,

1000
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: work on a prank show. I'd just come down from Canada.

1001
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: I was going to make friends. I was like, this

1002
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: is like a fun opportunity.

1003
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: I'd love to work.

1004
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the advice you would give to someone

1005
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: who's working on a prank show that's going to air?

1006
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: And a great question.

1007
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: First one, don't give up to just keep doing everything

1008
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 4: you can outside of that job to make yourself visible

1009
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 4: on some level, which I think I really succeeded with

1010
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: in that three. I know that it's not gonna last

1011
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: forever because it's a prank show, and literally, as a

1012
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: prank is done, you can go home. A.

1013
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: Four.

1014
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 4: At some point, this is going to be over and

1015
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 4: it's going to be done. Five You'll either die five

1016
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: B or you'll find a way out, and both will

1017
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: be better than what you're doing, because honestly I did.

1018
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 4: I did have a moment after that thing where I

1019
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: was like, this is the meanest thing I've ever seen

1020
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: happen to somebody.

1021
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: And I thought maybe I am just done, Maybe this

1022
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 3: is not for me.

1023
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: Six I said already, So Sevin, just like, do the

1024
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 4: best job you can and be as nice to everyone

1025
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: around you as you can, which again I think I

1026
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: also need an italics change for that because I didn't

1027
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: want to be there, and I made that pretty known.

1028
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: I eight hope for the best. It's all you can

1029
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: do at the end of the day.

1030
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: All makes perfect sense if you're on a Frank show. Yeah,

1031
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: that's really be honest.

1032
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: I didn't know you, so I was like, is this

1033
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: a good gift? I wanted something personal, and I was like,

1034
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 4: is this a good gift or was this a gift

1035
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 4: that was the kind of thing where you're gonna go

1036
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 4: Vic is an asshole sort of around and about what.

1037
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: If you start hearing that I've been talking about you.

1038
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: Honestly, to have a beef with my favorite podcast host would.

1039
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: Be an honor.

1040
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: To be hated by someone I respect so much, it

1041
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: might make me feel like I've made it.

1042
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: This is an excellent gift. Thank you for seeing much

1043
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: quality gift thought was put into it. It's you know,

1044
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: it's a beautiful thing I can display in my home.

1045
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: Sure people will look at it and then I'll be like,

1046
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: oh wow, I can take that into my own life.

1047
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1048
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: Guests at the home of the podcast something.

1049
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: Where somebody would feel like they knew you better after

1050
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 4: looking at it, you know, and.

1051
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: This is a true look into who I am as

1052
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: a verse certain.

1053
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 4: A locative time. It's a conversation starter. People would be like,

1054
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: what is this? Why are you displaying this in your bathroom?

1055
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Why would you put up your own roles in your

1056
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: This feels very earnest. Yeah, that is going to go

1057
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: in my bathroom. Do you think it's going to go

1058
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 2: in my office?

1059
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 4: Bathroo Dard, don't say that if you don't mean it.

1060
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 4: It's going to thank you for saying that. I really

1061
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: appreciate it.

1062
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: Back on the podcast, and beforehand, I'm gonna say, please

1063
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: drink as much as possible before coming here, and then

1064
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to use the restroom and you'll see it.

1065
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: I like the well, I'll just say, I don't know

1066
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: if I'm allowed to say.

1067
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: People behind the current recording outside, and I don't know

1068
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: if this is everybody or we just didn't know each

1069
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: other well enough that you were like, let's do this

1070
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 4: one outside and then we'll see if we can earn

1071
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 4: a living room record at some point.

1072
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: No, they're all outside unless we've had a couple where

1073
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: there was like a jackhammer or bad weather, but it's

1074
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: mostly outside. Yeah, so I.

1075
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: Mean, listen, it's lovely.

1076
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 4: You have the most beautiful yard bush I've ever been

1077
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 4: to in Los Angeles.

1078
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1079
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: It's true.

1080
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: People are going to get an idea about this backyard

1081
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: that is going to be deeply disappointing.

1082
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: Pools in that you have a found him with three

1083
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: little sections in it.

1084
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: It's fifty acres. There are two different swimming pools. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1085
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: I mean, and there's just a beautiful exotic wildlife kind

1086
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: of wandering around. Yeah.

1087
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: Have you ever had a coyote run in through here

1088
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: or anything like that.

1089
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: We've never had a coyote because their fences all over,

1090
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: but there are certainly raccoons and squirrels that will like

1091
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: knock the plants or the pots over, that will eat things.

1092
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: We are you married, I have a partner, So I

1093
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: asked that question.

1094
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 4: But I did know that because of all the googling

1095
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: that I did, and I needed it to come up

1096
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: in conversation that way.

1097
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: I just I wasn't like I just knew that information.

1098
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: Admitted you were searching me and to the point that

1099
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: you found like the oldest possible video clip of fame.

1100
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 4: You're making me sound crazy, and I want to make

1101
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: me sound crazy alone.

1102
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: That's your job. Yes, I do have a partner. Well,

1103
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: i'd call him my boyfriend. You know whatever.

1104
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I apologize your partner boyfriend boyfriend?

1105
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: You did just say I you said, you said, actually

1106
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 4: it's boyfriend, and then I went back and I said partner.

1107
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: I'm really trying to let's get I'm trying to paint

1108
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 4: on in label and I apologize.

1109
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just settle on my wife. Yes, I have

1110
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: a wife. Yes, but wait, why did you bring up

1111
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: if I have a partner or a boyfriend.

1112
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: I knew this information, but then it felt a crazy

1113
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: thing to just know about you from googling you, and

1114
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: so I was like, I need to have this come

1115
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: up in conversation somehow.

1116
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: That way if I mention it in casual conversation and stop,

1117
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: just like I didn't say that, how did I know

1118
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: that I live?

1119
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: That is the world we anytime someone goes on a

1120
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: first state, it's like, well, we already I know literally

1121
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: everything about it, Like there's we just need to admit

1122
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: before meeting someone you're doing the looking Do you.

1123
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: Prefer having that thing of somebody being like, oh, yeah,

1124
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: I know this from online, like I googled this, Like

1125
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 4: I know this thing.

1126
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: I think I would prefer that. Yeah, well you me.

1127
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I'm like, I'm a very private person online.

1128
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: I would say, like I sort of, I just don't

1129
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: really say anything about my life or anything like that,

1130
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 4: just because for this sort of reason, I'm like, I

1131
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: like organic conversations, and so I'd rather get to know

1132
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 4: somebody in real life, which is why I think I've

1133
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 4: done these gymnastics to manufacture of this moment.

1134
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I try to keep as quiet as

1135
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: possible about my life online, but once you have a podcast,

1136
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: it's nearly impossible to keep most details under wraps.

1137
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 4: Because people sort of poke and prod and ask questions

1138
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: what was your Mormon childhood like exactly?

1139
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: And then you end up on a podcast talking about

1140
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 2: your life as a production assistant, and everybody knows. Sure,

1141
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: I'm humiliating.

1142
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: Do you have people ask you a lot about your

1143
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: gift giving style? I bet you do.

1144
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 2: Yes.

1145
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, so I'm not going to and I never would.

1146
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 2: The one word is bad. No, I'm a bad gift giver.

1147
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: Can't be true?

1148
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean fil it's certainly true.

1149
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: Can't be true.

1150
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: Listen, you're your demeanor and everything about you. This is

1151
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 4: such a present already your presidence. The president is of

1152
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 4: theme song says, how do you know that? Because I've

1153
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 4: listened to someone's done some research.

1154
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: You pervert.

1155
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 4: Sorry, That's what I want seven years from now. I

1156
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: want a wall hanging with me that says Vic Michaelis's

1157
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 4: descriptor as by Bridger, And it's gonna say pervert, honest,

1158
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: And that's gonna be gonna be office bathroomcause I'm gona

1159
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: an office at that point.

1160
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: I'm putting that out into the universe.

1161
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: It's just gonna say you're a perf.

1162
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, cursive though. It's gonna be pretty.

1163
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna beautiful. That could be something that they

1164
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: sell at home goods, I think so just you know

1165
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: sign that just says pervert and a beautiful font and

1166
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: pleasant beige and brown. I can see that.

1167
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: Can I tell you my deepest secret because you told

1168
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: me a secret earlier?

1169
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: Please?

1170
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: I want a picture or a piece of art good

1171
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: enough that sometimes Walgreens does the displays of like you know,

1172
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: like oh this one was cool, and then they'll like

1173
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 4: leave it on display in the Walgreens.

1174
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: Wait, like photo photos or things like that. Of course,

1175
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: you imagine.

1176
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: I would love to create something interesting and beautiful and

1177
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 4: sterile enough that they have decided to put it up

1178
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: in the Walgreens as an example of the.

1179
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: Work that I think so absolute, at least of my

1180
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 3: local Walgreens.

1181
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: Well, keep trying. I don't know what that'll take. You

1182
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: just have to kind of think of like a stock photographer.

1183
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: Oh sure, keep that in mind, and eventually they're gonna

1184
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: I wonder if they have to ask for permission.

1185
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: Stock photography.

1186
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: To do that.

1187
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: I mean probably, I'm sure that they're all stock photos.

1188
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: I'll do it.

1189
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: I'll do stock photography. I did do stock.

1190
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: Photography as a model, or photography.

1191
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: As a stock model.

1192
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: They pay you three hundred dollars and then can use

1193
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 4: your image forever.

1194
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 5: Hm.

1195
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 2: So I'll deal with the Devil's situation.

1196
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 4: I've never seen it again, though it was all in

1197
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: where it was like knock on wood. I almost it

1198
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 4: does look so photo real that I did almost knock

1199
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 4: on your beautiful piece of art.

1200
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: How about so you only did stock photography once once?

1201
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: What were you doing in the image?

1202
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: We were in a boardroom.

1203
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: Oh, Okay, it was like but it was crazy because

1204
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 4: I would have been in my early twenties and they

1205
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: it also would have been a group of people in

1206
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: the early twenties. But they wanted to show off the

1207
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: space of this like office that they were using. They

1208
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: were like, oh, so it's like big office with boardroom people.

1209
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: But they had us dressing like we were like in

1210
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: a meeting with the CEO. But everybody would have been

1211
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 4: nineteen to twenty one tops.

1212
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: Some twenty something's hanging out at the boardroom.

1213
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, to be like what are we doing? Like, what

1214
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 4: is the in what context?

1215
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: What job? Startup? Maybe startup now that I'm thinking of MLML.

1216
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, more, probably more MLM. I feel like startup. They

1217
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: want a ping pong table in the background or something

1218
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: like that.

1219
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: Sure, less bicycles we're biking from to keep call, right.

1220
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: I wonder if they still do that up in the

1221
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: Bay Area. I feel like clamping down on the.

1222
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: Fun clamping down on the funnels.

1223
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's time to play a game.

1224
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: Oh I would love that.

1225
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse.

1226
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you.

1227
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 3: Oh great, I am going to go with four.

1228
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some like calculating to get

1229
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: our game pieces. Okay, so right now you have the microphone,

1230
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: do whatever you want, promote, recommend whatever you want to.

1231
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: Oh amazing, here is what I would like to promote.

1232
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: There's a lot of terrible, horrible, mogan, very bad anti

1233
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 4: trans bills that are popping up all around the country

1234
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 4: and the you know.

1235
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 3: I'd say gift or a curse, but truly just a curse.

1236
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: Is well, this is sort of a gift that there

1237
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: are a bunch of organizations and likely one in your

1238
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: area that could use your promo or your money if

1239
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: you've got any extra cash to donate or yeah, follow

1240
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 4: them on social media, boost them up and yeah, yeah

1241
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: see what their ass are. Oh, speaking of Utah, they

1242
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 4: passed a really awful bill right now. But there's a

1243
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: couple in Utah. It's called Equity Utah is one. There's

1244
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: a couple of different housing organizations there. But yeah, definitely

1245
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 4: give those a look, give those a follow.

1246
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: Utah, Utah, I mean everywhere.

1247
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 4: It's like, it really is everywhere, and it is that

1248
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: thing of like, you know, I am so grateful. I

1249
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 4: know a lot of people in Utah right now in

1250
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: Salt Lake area, and you know, like if they leave,

1251
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: then like what hope do the people that can't leave have,

1252
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 4: you know, and the kids coming up?

1253
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had that feeling as a young,

1254
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: secret gay person. It was just like, oh, this is

1255
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: a weird place to be, but it can be a

1256
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: better place. Totally should be a better place.

1257
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 4: I went to Salt Lake and we got out of

1258
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: an uber in the middle of the night and somebody said,

1259
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 4: be careful, this is a bad area. And then in

1260
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 4: the morning we realized it was the gay part of town.

1261
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 4: And there was a coffee shop was what he was

1262
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: referring to.

1263
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: There was there was a block of coffee shops.

1264
00:51:51,239 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: I so that was, oh the shame the come on together.

1265
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 4: So wonderful and not like we just sort of went

1266
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: to salt like on a women. It was like pretty

1267
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 4: like there was like some really great parts of town.

1268
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: It's a wonderful city. I mean, great people. I love

1269
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: the delicious Oh what did you order?

1270
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 4: We just said whatever is like the thing that people

1271
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 4: get here and send it up with like a couple

1272
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: of random things.

1273
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 3: Something with molay that was delicious.

1274
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: A lot of good molay. Yeah, I'm going there this weekend,

1275
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: probably specific going to Utah on Saturday. Oh congratulations, I

1276
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: always have to go to red Iguana.

1277
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1278
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like wonderful place just needs, Utah just needs

1279
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: it's one step forward to like a billion steps backwards there.

1280
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: So like anything good people doing good work there about

1281
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: and it's you know, yeah, God.

1282
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: Bless them, God bless us everyone. This is how this

1283
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: is how we play gift or a curse. I'm going

1284
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: to name three things. You're going to tell me if

1285
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: there are a gift or a curse and why oh great,

1286
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong,

1287
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: because there are correct answers. You can lose, you can win.

1288
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: Bridger do it? I this.

1289
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 4: I hate this wishy washy like, oh, it's up to

1290
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: you choose your own adventure. No, I want exact answers.

1291
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: I want there to be a metric of how I

1292
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 4: can win or how I.

1293
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: Can best rules. Yes, that's how people learn. Yes, okay.

1294
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: Number one This is from a listener named Danielle. Gift

1295
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 2: or a curse, crying in public.

1296
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 4: Trick question gift if you're the one watching curse, if

1297
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 4: you're the one doing.

1298
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 2: Okay, well, you have to, you have to name one

1299
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: or the other.

1300
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 4: Well, so then can I ask for clarification? Am I

1301
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 4: watching somebody crying in public? Or am I the one crying?

1302
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: Now again, I can't give you any more information, Elise. Okay, okay,

1303
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 4: here's what I'm taking this. So I recognize that I'm

1304
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 4: taking a gamble here. I am taking this as a

1305
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 4: people crying in public okay, not me included, mm hmm.

1306
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: And I am going to say a gift because again

1307
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 4: it's like a for two reasons. One, it's drama. We love,

1308
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: we like to make life interesting. It's so much of

1309
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: phone phone fun watching a production in public?

1310
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: What a gift?

1311
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: And then I will also say for you like and

1312
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 4: then it's also sort of like a two of love

1313
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 4: and to never have loved it all type situation, like

1314
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 4: to be that connected to your emotions that it's overwhelming

1315
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: in a place of such public you can't even hold

1316
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 4: it in anymore.

1317
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: Like, I what a gift to be alive?

1318
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: I mean, you just took the words right out of

1319
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: my mouth.

1320
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: It's a here we go, look at us?

1321
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we are so in sync on this one.

1322
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: I can't even like there's nothing else I can even

1323
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: say so I love to watch it unfold.

1324
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1325
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: It also provides a hero moment. Maybe maybe you can

1326
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: dip in and say what can I help you with? Yeah,

1327
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 2: and then come as.

1328
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: Part of a person's tapestry. They remember that for ever, right.

1329
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 2: And also maybe a memorable thing is like they say

1330
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: I need this and you say, oh, I can't help

1331
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: you with that, and then you get to walk away.

1332
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: That's also a fun feeling, sure, denying help. Yeah, and

1333
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: unleashing yourself in public and making yourself everyone else's problem

1334
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: a dream?

1335
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is there anything better than that?

1336
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: Not?

1337
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: Really? Why did we get into this business in the

1338
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 3: first place?

1339
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it's your little show. Yes, it's your little show.

1340
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: Beautifully played on that one. Number two. This is from

1341
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: a listener named Lance. Okay, gift a curse more to Deella,

1342
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: Oh what are you familiar with? More to Deella?

1343
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: May ask for a definition.

1344
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: It's like the it's like balogney or salami, or it's

1345
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: like a a meat, kind of a soft deli meat

1346
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: that's kind of served in slices. Okay, it's kind of it.

1347
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: I've been saying the last few years has kind of

1348
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: had its moment.

1349
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 4: Okay, So here's the thing. I tricked you into giving

1350
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 4: me more information.

1351
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: Right, Wow, interesting, I really gave it.

1352
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: The last few years has had a moment. I am

1353
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 4: going to say, okay, stay with me.

1354
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 3: A gift. I'm seeing a.

1355
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: Cross and an uncross and I'm not loving that, so

1356
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm changing my answer to curse. I see it as

1357
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 4: it's a gift. I had a gift right now of

1358
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 4: being able to change my mind to a curse. And

1359
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 4: now we're pursing our lips.

1360
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: What is going on? I'm freaking out. I'm having a meltdown.

1361
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 2: You're gonna be crying in public very soon.

1362
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 4: Okay, here's no here's what I want to do. I'm

1363
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 4: saying a curse because I didn't understand what it is.

1364
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 4: It's making me seem stupid on a podcast. It's making

1365
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 4: me look like an indecisive idiot. So it doesn't matter

1366
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: what the answer is because it is my personal curse.

1367
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: You're correct, Oh, thank god.

1368
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know why. It's having

1369
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: a moment. I think it's gross, Yes, disgusting.

1370
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: I didn't say that, and it did.

1371
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: I'll say the texture is fluffy?

1372
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 3: How is that possible? Like syrophog yeah, I guess that's true.

1373
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: It's a It's just it's this thing that's uh, whenever

1374
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: I'm served mortadella, I'm like, I don't think so fancy.

1375
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: It is fancy, I think, but it's not and it's

1376
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: gross and it looks gross. There's nothing I'm.

1377
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're basing.

1378
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: You're building its case to be a curse, because then

1379
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: it's something that's one of my least favorite things on

1380
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: the planet, which is it's disgusting, but you have to

1381
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: pretend like it's nice or interesting just because it's expensive

1382
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 4: and you are having the opportunity to try it, you.

1383
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: Know, I mean, well, but the thing is is it's

1384
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: also often like in an Italian deli sandwich, but it's

1385
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: not flavorful enough to be there. I vote a salami

1386
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 2: or a pepperoni.

1387
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 4: Know exactly what this is, now, oh you do, now

1388
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: that you have said this, I know exactly what it

1389
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 4: is because there's an eighteen dollars sandwich that they sell

1390
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 4: at a coffee shop around the corner for me, and

1391
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 4: it absolutely has this in it. Because I looked at

1392
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: that sandwich, I didn't realize it was eighteen dollars. I

1393
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 4: taped my card walked home and I said, I can't

1394
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 4: believe I spent eighteen dollars on the sandwich. The focacca incredible,

1395
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: the walsamic vinegar life changing. And then you get to

1396
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 4: this disgusting meat. I'm a vegetarian and you bite into

1397
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: it and it just is like, I know what you mean,

1398
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: it's like revolting.

1399
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I don't. Yeah. I feel like it's kind

1400
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: of a king's what's the uh, the Emperor's new clothes

1401
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: type situation.

1402
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: Sure, I thought you're gonna say the Emperor's new groove.

1403
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: Ooh, I'm just realizing that's what that's based on. Is

1404
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: it must be gott to be interesting?

1405
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: Lama is the no clothes?

1406
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, very interesting? Okay, excellently played. We hate mortadella. Yeah,

1407
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: number three, You've gotten two rights so far.

1408
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: I'm feeling great about this.

1409
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: This is from a listener named Molina. Gift or a

1410
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: curse your therapist sending you reference materials between sessions.

1411
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: Gift therapists can'ts not thinking about you. You're on their mind,

1412
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 3: favorite client? What are you doing? You have their clients,

1413
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: you're busy. Why are you thinking about me? Are you

1414
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: talking about me?

1415
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: Who?

1416
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 3: Are you talking about me too, Gift?

1417
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: Oh Vic.

1418
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: Wrong, No, I'm right on that one, and I feel

1419
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 3: good about it.

1420
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: Obsessed with me, get me off of your minds.

1421
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: So this is it, same reasoning, different take on it.

1422
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 4: I gotta get half a point for having the same reason.

1423
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: No half points here. The therapist is no. Now I'm

1424
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: thinking about the therapists and we're in the sessions together

1425
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: thinking are they thinking about me even more? Now? The

1426
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: romance is there, the spark, the tension. It's a nightmare.

1427
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 4: I spent my first two years in therapy trying to

1428
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 4: be my therapist's favorite. I would say that was really

1429
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 4: important to me about the therapy.

1430
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: It's a a good goal for therapy.

1431
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 4: I genuinely think, yeah, I think it is the kind

1432
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 4: of thing of like if you need that to get

1433
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 4: into therapy, if you need a gold star in a

1434
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 4: point system to sort of like get you past the.

1435
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: Hump of being like oh no, now, I'm like understanding.

1436
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a frown form Maneles, and it's pretty cool.

1437
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: I'm pretty good. Actually, I'm I'm agreeing.

1438
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: You go in there and just present whatever self the

1439
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: therapist needs, yes to like you.

1440
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm like you seem like you need a

1441
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 4: sad patient today. You seem like you need to feel

1442
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 4: better about the job that you're doing. You seem like

1443
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 4: you need a big hero's arc for yourself. And I

1444
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 4: am prepared to give that to you myself, and like,

1445
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 4: you know, my dad and stuff like that, and I

1446
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 4: feel like.

1447
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 3: You know, we we got to it. We get to it.

1448
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm not a better person for it, but I.

1449
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: Needed that roll around to it eventually. Yeah, and then

1450
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: you have something else to.

1451
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 3: Talk about, you said earlier, a sexual tension of spark.

1452
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the seduction, the temptation to seduce. And then

1453
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 2: you know, you're getting these materials in the middle of

1454
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: the night and you're thinking about whatever their therapist's name is,

1455
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: and you get a text from them. Your partner's starting

1456
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: to wonder.

1457
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: Who are telling what's going on?

1458
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: You know, it's all fun, It's all so much fun,

1459
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: but it's too much.

1460
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I also exclusively love my therapist to be like

1461
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 4: my my first therapist. I don't think this is doxing anybody.

1462
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put that out there. I don't think this

1463
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 4: is doxing anybody, like really like Emma Thompson vibes in

1464
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 4: a way that just was a little too.

1465
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: Much for me.

1466
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, immediate, like my exact type winning approval, just

1467
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: like a little bit of an older woman who had

1468
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 4: a lot of thoughts about what I was doing, you.

1469
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

1470
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: And wait, you're still seeing this therapist or not? No, no, no, no,

1471
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: no no.

1472
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: We had to part ways yep, right because it got

1473
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 4: to the point where I was like, oh, I do

1474
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: I do think I need this and I want this

1475
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 4: in a way that is, but now we've created a

1476
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 4: rapport of like me sort of giving this person what

1477
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 4: they want and like feeling superior, and it just was

1478
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 4: like a thing of like there was it was hard

1479
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: to I needed a fresh start. I needed The therapist

1480
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 4: was going on, yeah.

1481
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: Well you've got two out of three.

1482
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: I feel good about that.

1483
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: That's not about well, it's tough than when you look

1484
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: at that.

1485
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: That's a seventy five.

1486
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: Percent to sixty six. That's sixty which is you know

1487
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: you can either fail get a sixty six, or is

1488
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: the will that be a fail? Thirty three is a

1489
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:21,479
Speaker 2: fail not passing.

1490
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: How many people are getting one out of how many

1491
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 4: people are getting three out of three?

1492
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: Very few of the list is extremely short.

1493
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: Damn that could have been made.

1494
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're gonna have to practice. Yeah, when

1495
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: you're ready to come back, you'll be able to use

1496
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: the bathroom for win. I love them promising you those

1497
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: two things. Okay, if you try hard enough.

1498
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 6: I'm just saying there are still fewer people who've lost

1499
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,479
Speaker 6: it completely. Wow. Really yeah, Like there's twelve people who've

1500
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 6: won it, and there's only five who've lost.

1501
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: Who lost the name is loss, do it? Carl Tart,

1502
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: Carl Tart, you loser, Jesse Tyler, Ferguson, Jesse Tyler Ferguson,

1503
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: los Irene too Irene loser, loser.

1504
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 3: I don't know that.

1505
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: Billian Jacobs, Gillian j you loser.

1506
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: And Patrick McDonald Patrick.

1507
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: McDonald, you loser.

1508
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: We want more losers though, Yeah, it's yeah, because twelve

1509
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 3: for a win.

1510
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 4: When you said like a small, small group, I really

1511
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 4: but I mean over the course of two hundred episodes,

1512
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 4: short small percentage. But I really was thinking like like three.

1513
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: People, three people, but yeah, twelve people. Know you want

1514
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 3: to be in that five.

1515
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: Person club real bombing it out? Yeah, well, I mean,

1516
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 2: come back prepared to lose if you want.

1517
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 4: I honestly maybe because I feel like, here's the thing.

1518
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 4: I feel like I get you. I feel like I

1519
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 4: understand you as a person.

1520
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 2: Well, you did a lot of research.

1521
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 4: I sort of have seen where you were and i've

1522
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 4: and I met your energy here again, like that was

1523
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 4: the big missing piece for me, was like what was

1524
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 4: the vibe and the energy in the room. And I

1525
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 4: feel like, again, I've done copious amounts of research to

1526
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 4: get to here and in this seat right now. So

1527
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 4: I feel like I get it and so like, And

1528
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 4: I think was proven by the one question of yours

1529
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 4: I got correct and the one listener question that.

1530
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: I got correct. Yes, yes.

1531
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: Did the listener decide how they felt about it or

1532
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: were you The listener does not.

1533
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: Say, they just present, I think, then allow the podcast

1534
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 2: to reveal the true answer. Yeah.

1535
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I feel like I see I see pieces

1536
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 4: of myself and you also, you know what I mean.

1537
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: Like it's I feel like I am. It's a it's

1538
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: a mayror, maybe a foggy mare.

1539
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 4: Somebody's in the way because they've taken a photo and

1540
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 4: they've also appeared in the mirror right right.

1541
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: It's a it's a brother, sister, you know, cousin, yes, close,

1542
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: co worker, yes, these are the relationships.

1543
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then there's still something where it's like, oh,

1544
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 4: I knew that, but it wasn't quite.

1545
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: Right exactly, you know what I mean, There wasn't there

1546
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: was something not quite right.

1547
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: Not quite right. I'd been had off putting, I've been had.

1548
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. It's

1549
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: called I said no emails people write into I said

1550
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: no gifts at gmail dot com. Great, desperate for answers? Yeah,

1551
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: will you help me answer a question?

1552
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 6: Oh?

1553
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 3: I would really love to.

1554
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get in here. Okay, this is this feels

1555
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: like kind of a leftover from the holidays, but who cares.

1556
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: Holidays are always right around the corner. Absolutely, this is

1557
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: Hello Bridger and angelic guest.

1558
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: That's really kind and I feel inaccurate.

1559
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I agree. How do I ask my fairly

1560
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: large family to transition to a secret sand to type

1561
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: gift exchange instead of each person getting every single person

1562
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: a fifty dollars gift barrier? Passive aggression and judgment are

1563
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: their preferred ways of communication. Ps. I wanted to let

1564
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: you know that you have genuinely saved me from myself

1565
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: many times over with your podcast. Please never sup. Well

1566
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: that's a nice.

1567
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 3: That's very nice. And now I feel like we need

1568
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: to give good advice.

1569
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: I know this says I love you too. Meg. Well

1570
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: we'll see what sort of advice Meg gets.

1571
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 4: Do you have anything to say to Meg back about

1572
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 4: that or just that it was nice?

1573
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: Well, I will get into what I have to say

1574
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: to Meg as we discuss this little piece of advice

1575
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: they need.

1576
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: I love that.

1577
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So Meg has hundreds of family members, Yeah, an army.

1578
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: Do you the big family?

1579
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you?

1580
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? You have two siblings.

1581
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: I have three.

1582
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 3: You have three siblings. That is what I said.

1583
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 2: But you can assume with a Mormon the family will

1584
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: be at least compared to the average larger than.

1585
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 4: So the photo that I saw was the one where

1586
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 4: your mom you pushed it on Twitter. Your mom was

1587
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 4: covering her face, sent you a family photo, and there

1588
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 4: were only three of three kids in that photo.

1589
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: There are four kids in that photo.

1590
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: There's four kids in that photo.

1591
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: You got one of my siblings.

1592
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 3: So here's what I'll say.

1593
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 4: Much like how I look at words and I see

1594
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 4: what I want to see, I look at photos and

1595
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 4: I see what I want to see. I said, this

1596
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 4: is a three sibling family, and I saw three kids

1597
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 4: in that photos.

1598
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: This is where you were revealed that you have not

1599
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: been able to see me this entire time.

1600
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 4: You look exactly like me, long brown hair, and by

1601
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 4: long I mean sort of a mid length brown hair,

1602
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 4: blue sweater.

1603
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, large family, you have a large family. Yeah, got

1604
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: a large family.

1605
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: Do you really know you're not Meg?

1606
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 4: What am I saying on Alice? You don't have a

1607
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: large fan, Alice, We've been talking this entire time. I've

1608
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 4: been forcing you to get on Mike to answer questions.

1609
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 6: You know what, I feel way too perceived today and

1610
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 6: I'm really sorry, really uncomfortable, and I might need to leave.

1611
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 3: This was the straw.

1612
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.

1613
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 2: Large families, secret Santas.

1614
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 3: I think this was your fault. I'm so sorry to say.

1615
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 3: You looked right in on Elise's eyes and said Meg

1616
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 3: said this.

1617
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: I gestured to the world and.

1618
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 4: Here was me trying and what you were saying. And

1619
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 4: so I also made eye contact with Onalise.

1620
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: And now a neighbor's dog is joining the conversation. Things

1621
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: have gotten out of control, and Meg is sitting there

1622
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: just on the edge of their seat.

1623
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 3: How do I fix this? How do I Fiel this,

1624
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: do you do a Secret Sanda or anything like that?

1625
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: Do you have any advice on how to fix this?

1626
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 2: You know, this is ah. I had a workplace where

1627
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 2: we had a Secret Santa, but uh, they called it that,

1628
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: But then everyone also had to get everyone a gift

1629
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: and it was the most maddening thing in the world.

1630
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: For me. It was like, well, let's just call it

1631
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: nothing because now I'm like, I still have to spend

1632
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 2: all of this money on everyone when the idea of

1633
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 2: Secret Santa is to kind of narrow it down. And

1634
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: I never made a fuss. I'd just let it kind

1635
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: of ruin me financially. Sure, So this sort of thing,

1636
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: I think what Meg needs to do. Meg's got to

1637
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 2: make it look like their life is hanging by a thread.

1638
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: Oh well, they can't handle getting this money gifts anymore.

1639
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: Kind of but through ways where the family notices and

1640
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: Meg doesn't say outright, you know, you go out to

1641
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: dinner with a dummy credit card offer to pay for everyone.

1642
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: The card gets declined in front of the whole family.

1643
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: Now they're thinking, what's happening with Meg? Maybe this is

1644
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: like right around Thanksgiving time, so now they're really.

1645
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 4: Camping it see I'm thinking this is happening the year before.

1646
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 4: You still got to suffer through on Christmas. But maybe

1647
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 4: like you get the same gift twice for two people,

1648
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 4: like you give somebody two. Tis a sort of a

1649
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: thing of like I don't know where this came from,

1650
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 4: like a real like have you seen the nineteen forty

1651
01:07:59,080 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: eight gas light?

1652
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 3: Like the original one?

1653
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: I've never seen it.

1654
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 3: So it's like she.

1655
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 4: Is both ingrid Bergman who is being gas lit, but

1656
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 4: also doing the gas lighting, you know what I mean.

1657
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 4: It's sort of like a reverse I doesn't know that

1658
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 4: a dirty rotten scoundrels meets spoiler alert.

1659
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 3: Meets gaslight.

1660
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: Okay, right, right, So a similar gift to two.

1661
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 3: People that or two gifts for one person.

1662
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 4: Maybe forget one person and you give one person two

1663
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 4: gifts and you're just like, I don't know.

1664
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 3: What happened.

1665
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: Here?

1666
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: Is very good? I mean, and you have to do

1667
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: that two years in a row, I think just one year.

1668
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 4: So, like you said, you start this off Thanksgiving, let's

1669
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 4: say twenty twenty four, lay the groundwork. We're then falling

1670
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 4: apart by Christmas. We can then sort of maybe foreclose

1671
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 4: on our apartment the year after that.

1672
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: It's a slow, long game, but eventually the family will

1673
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 2: have finally settled on we can't keep doing this to

1674
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: each other, truly, may Yes, and we can't let what

1675
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: happened to Meg happen to us. Yes, because they are

1676
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: passive aggressive, Yeah, and they're judgy.

1677
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 3: Yeah. So my family does do a secret Sannah. And

1678
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,839
Speaker 3: are you the oldest? I knew that third it's.

1679
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 4: I am, so I am the oldest, and so you

1680
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 4: have sort of a gift in that power position. But

1681
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 4: I think really any sibling could do it. It just

1682
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 4: takes emailing and going hey, guys, so I've decided we're

1683
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 4: doing a secret Sanna this year. It is maybe a

1684
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 4: little direct, but also you could just sort of be

1685
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 4: like you guys do whatever you want for each other.

1686
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 4: But like I'm doing secret Sannah. I'm setting it up

1687
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 4: if you want to partake, right, But like I'm getting

1688
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 4: one gift for one person, and so then if they

1689
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 4: don't want to participate, then one person is just getting

1690
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 4: sort of, as mentioned earlier, an extra.

1691
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: Gift, right.

1692
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 4: I think so this is sort of my patented aggressive aggressive,

1693
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 4: which I think maybe is something that Meg can look

1694
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 4: to transitioning into.

1695
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: And it like kind of casts a light on the

1696
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 2: rest of the family if they don't participate as kill joyce,

1697
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,839
Speaker 2: they don't want to be part of the game. Yes,

1698
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: it's not really a game, it's a solution, but you

1699
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: kind of say it's a game.

1700
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, it's sort of like you mentioned earlier and

1701
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 4: sort of as we were talking about an ability to

1702
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 4: win and what Secret Sanda does is it really does

1703
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 4: every year march up on like who went over the

1704
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 4: limit even though we said we weren't going to go

1705
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 4: over the limit, who gave the most thoughtful gift of

1706
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 4: the year, And then you can just sort of stew

1707
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 4: on it and really think about it. So we do

1708
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 4: our Secret Sandah draw in now.

1709
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 2: July because we need all the pressure.

1710
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 4: Time to think about it. My brothers lose every single year.

1711
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 4: That's fine, it's not for them. We're not playing for them.

1712
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 4: So it's kind of a shame whoever they get, and

1713
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,440
Speaker 4: it's sort of a shame the year that sounds terrible,

1714
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,919
Speaker 4: one of us end up getting one of my brothers

1715
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 4: because they'll just you send them an Amazon.

1716
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 3: Link and they will order that off of Amazon.

1717
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,839
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe Usually it's a picture of whatever they're planning

1718
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 4: on getting you that will arrive sometime around the draw

1719
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 4: in July.

1720
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that's a mess. That's it. I think you

1721
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: should stop playing that. Do you think I don't like?

1722
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: I mean that just makes me tinse. Well, it's the.

1723
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: Game that keeps on giving because I do win every year.

1724
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, support you, fully, support you. Meg. What do

1725
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: you think of all of this advice? How are we doing?

1726
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: I think we gave Meg some advice that should save Christmas.

1727
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 3: Do you think Yeah? I think so too.

1728
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 2: You said something in there that feels like Meg is

1729
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: gonna like either the exchange will happen or the family

1730
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: will be torn apart. Either way, it's a solution.

1731
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: It's a solution.

1732
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then you know where you stand, which is

1733
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 4: all you can ask at the end of the day.

1734
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 3: It is that idea that sort of going back.

1735
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 4: To scary movies, when you name the demon, the demon

1736
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 4: doesn't have any powering exactly.

1737
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1738
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: Meg's family is demons. Meg's family is demon family of demons.

1739
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 4: I mean, you can finally admit that to yourself. It's

1740
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 4: then finally your freed from it.

1741
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: Beautiful Meg, you have your advice. Get to work, Get

1742
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: to work on destroying your family. I love that, Vic.

1743
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: I've had such a wonderful time with you, Richard.

1744
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 3: This has been a dream and now I have this.

1745
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: Beautiful piece of art to inspire and to you know,

1746
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 2: make people wonder.

1747
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 4: I was so worried coming into this that this was

1748
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 4: going to be too much, and boy, if it as

1749
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 4: you didn't make me feel like that, and I appreciate it.

1750
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: Can you imagine this was it was either this or

1751
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 2: a roll of duct tape.

1752
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 4: Or yeah, well several roles of duct tape times. So

1753
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 4: you know, if I do come back, maybe just forget.

1754
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 2: To have duct tape. You're gonna have duct tape. A

1755
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 2: ventures have plenty of duct tape. Well, thank you for

1756
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: being here, Thank.

1757
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 4: You for having me Bridger. What a what a truly

1758
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 4: a gift and a blessing.

1759
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: Bless us everyone. Listener. Podcast is over. Oh there's a

1760
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: chill in the air. I've got to put on another layer.

1761
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: Put on as many layers as you want. Listener, stop

1762
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: listening to the podcast. I need you to stop listening.

1763
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye, I said no Gifts is an

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Speaker 2: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise

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Speaker 2: Nelson and It's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday and we

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Speaker 2: couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The

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Speaker 2: theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker

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Speaker 2: Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram. At

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Speaker 2: I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses.

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Speaker 2: That's where you get to see pictures of all these

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Speaker 2: gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see

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Speaker 2: pictures of the gifts?

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Speaker 1: And I invited you hear I thought I made myself

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Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you

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Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests,

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Speaker 1: you're our presences. Presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

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Speaker 1: So how do you dare to survey me