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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: I think if you worked on a major news network.

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Speaker 4: We call this an ongoing situation with the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday Good Morning Football we.

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Speaker 4: Talked about if we agreed with how the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 4: are handling this Trey Henderson contract negotiation situation. Wednesday, the

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Speaker 4: first team All Pro showed up at mini camp but

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Speaker 4: will not participate, and he had plenty to say about why.

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Speaker 5: A little bit transpired between me and Zach. We've tried

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Speaker 5: to keep it as less at least I'm out personal

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Speaker 5: as possible, but at some point in this process it

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Speaker 5: becomes personal.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Being sent thirty days before mandatory camp or however to

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Speaker 5: any days it is that if I don't show up,

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Speaker 5: I will be fined alludes to the fact that something

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Speaker 5: won't get done in that timeframe. Like the meetings that

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Speaker 5: we've had prior to right, I have a tremendous amount

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Speaker 5: of respect for the ability to be in meetings with

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Speaker 5: them behind closed doors and what was conveyed of the

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Speaker 5: vision of what I would be in this organization would

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Speaker 5: be if I continue to play at the level I

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Speaker 5: am that the door would be open to continue long

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Speaker 5: term discussions about contracts. We're just not seeing eye to

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Speaker 5: eye on the structure. It seems that a shorter deal

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Speaker 5: is something that they are pushing pretty hard. Then next year,

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Speaker 5: we're just kicking the can down the road. To say

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Speaker 5: going to what I can say is I'm very disappointed

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Speaker 5: with the communication that's been had.

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Speaker 4: Those are strong words from Jerry Hendrickson to say that

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Speaker 4: this is what the team is alluding to, kicking the

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Speaker 4: can down the road and then to have differences, But

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Speaker 4: what he really wants to say is that he is disappointed.

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Speaker 4: How do we translate these comments?

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Speaker 3: What do we think I.

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Speaker 6: Think different than I did twenty four hours ago. Oh

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, after seeing how the situation is developing, after

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Speaker 6: hearing his words. Words are important, and Trey Henderson is

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Speaker 6: a smart guy. Timing is everything in all of sports

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Speaker 6: when you're talking about contract situations and negotiations, and the

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Speaker 6: timing is obviously off on this. I would say that

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Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Bengals made a massive mistake in how they're

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Speaker 6: handling this situation. Trey Henderson on the other hand, is

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Speaker 6: doing everything with the purpose. It seems up until this point,

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Speaker 6: he's disappointed in the communication, and he obviously feels like

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Speaker 6: he was deceived, I'll say, in some way, shape or

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Speaker 6: form in the communication from last year to this year.

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Speaker 6: The Cincinnati Bengals have a problem on their hands. It's

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Speaker 6: going to either cost them a lot more money, yeah

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Speaker 6: at this point, or it's going to cost them a

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Speaker 6: game wrecker in their defensive end, as star defensive end

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Speaker 6: that they have on their football team.

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Speaker 7: Well, that interview was interesting to me. He was dressed

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Speaker 7: after and then rectifying the situation is what we talked

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Speaker 7: about twenty four hours ago. It seems that you couldn't

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Speaker 7: be more of an opposite situation. Right now, we went

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Speaker 7: to see a guy at what Marcel said, Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 7: did not mince any words. He said he was calculated

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Speaker 7: what he was doing. He is frustrated and you need

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Speaker 7: the guy on all cylinders week one with a fat pocketbook,

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Speaker 7: feeling like he's been compensated to what he's owed and

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Speaker 7: that is a lot of money, dude. Figure it out.

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Speaker 7: We're getting to a point where it's make or break

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Speaker 7: with this, saying sure the season doesn't start sol September. First.

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Speaker 7: We've been saying that for a while on the situation

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Speaker 7: getting worse. Lead Zach Taylor, don't make it personal and

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Speaker 7: something I know we're going to talk about is a

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Speaker 7: very personal thing in these contact contract situations. Keep the

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Speaker 7: one guy in defense. You have extremely happy Yes, I

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Speaker 7: agree with you. So I've been a part of these

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Speaker 7: contract talks before. In my situation, I miss Minnie Camp

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Speaker 7: and you're thirteen. I'm like, hey, it's year thirteen. I'm

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Speaker 7: missing this. This is what's going on.

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Speaker 8: But when you're in those conversations, you're going off with

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Speaker 8: somebody's words. Right, if you got told if you perform

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Speaker 8: a certain way, and you did that and succeeded that performance,

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Speaker 8: you should be obligated to a contract extension that you

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Speaker 8: should got, should get. But we can't also forget this

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Speaker 8: is part of his family. Also, he just had a child, right,

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Speaker 8: where is your Where you going to rate your child

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Speaker 8: for the next couple of years. You want to know this.

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Speaker 8: You did the trade aspect, you know what he's worth.

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Speaker 8: That doesn't mean you're going to get traded and now

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Speaker 8: they know what you what your value is, and do

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Speaker 8: you really hold somebody to that one year contract or

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Speaker 8: do you keep your word? And that's why I hear

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Speaker 8: you get told, hey, if you miss mini camp, miss

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Speaker 8: you're gonna get fined. Right, we all know what the

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Speaker 8: fine is. I felt the fine personally, but it's to

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Speaker 8: a fact with if you're going to say, hey, this

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Speaker 8: is it, say this is it, this is your last year,

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Speaker 8: you ain't going to be here next year, then fine,

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Speaker 8: that's it. If you're like, then trading me. If it's

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Speaker 8: not trading me, okay, let me move my family out

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Speaker 8: and understand why I'm going to raise my child for

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Speaker 8: the next couple of years.

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Speaker 3: When he says, you know things got personal?

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Speaker 4: Do you is that how you're translating it is that

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Speaker 4: you take it personally if someone verbally implies something and

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Speaker 4: doesn't live up to their word, and which part of

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Speaker 4: this feels personal when you're going through what.

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Speaker 8: It's about, when you're having a conversation whoever it is,

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Speaker 8: the GM, the head coach or the owner when they're saying, hey,

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Speaker 8: if you perform to the love of that we think

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Speaker 8: you're going to perform, you should deserve this contract extension.

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Speaker 8: That means you're giving me your word. Don't go back

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Speaker 8: on your word. That would make it personal, because it's

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Speaker 8: about our families. At the end of the day, our

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Speaker 8: families are here. We're sacrificing to play this game every

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Speaker 8: single week for you and for the organization. Compensate me. Wait,

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Speaker 8: what he did last year was super impressive. I was

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Speaker 8: here for a cup of coffee. I got to see

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Speaker 8: the experience. He deserves every bit of what he's asking for,

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Speaker 8: and they should do it. You can't lose a player

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Speaker 8: like that. Ask the samily it's retired. He is that

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Speaker 8: next leadership in the locker room.

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Speaker 7: Listen these the game of football is an interesting one,

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Speaker 7: especially at the professional level, when it comes to the

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Speaker 7: family environment. Coaches are going to preach that Listen. The

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Speaker 7: teams are the titles that treat each other like family

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Speaker 7: And to a point, I think that's the case, but

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's the camaraderie aspect of it,

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Speaker 7: things get personal. As much as you like to sit here,

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Speaker 7: I can sit here and say, listen, I understand it's

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Speaker 7: church and state. There's business in this and there's not.

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Speaker 7: When someone says you're not worth something, or they ask

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Speaker 7: you to take money away from your family and question it,

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Speaker 7: maybe to just to yourself, question the kind of player

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Speaker 7: you are, the visual guttural reaction is personal, and I

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Speaker 7: mean I don't think Trey's a viseral guttural guy. I

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Speaker 7: think this has been something that's been dwelling and kind

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Speaker 7: of a culminating of stewing. That's a great word for that.

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Speaker 7: I went through a little bit of something not quite

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Speaker 7: to Lawrence's deal where I got asked to take a

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Speaker 7: pay cut, and at first it was definitely something that

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Speaker 7: a step back, and it made a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: This instance is not that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is something you have to rectify, and I

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Speaker 7: can't say that enough. I have my few words that

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Speaker 6: Today, I had a different experience from me. So when

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Speaker 6: I was going through my contract situation. The second time,

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Speaker 6: well really both times with the Raiders, I had a

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Speaker 6: get something done. On the other hand, when you're talking

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Speaker 6: those contract negotiations where you start to be compared to

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Speaker 6: at times it can get personal by implying it you're

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Speaker 6: not worth a certain amount of money or a certain value.

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Speaker 6: It seems to me, and this is me from the

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Speaker 6: outside looking in, that trade is very involved in his

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Speaker 6: contract negotiations with his agent.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who his agent is, and he.

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Speaker 6: May have heard about some of those intricate details that

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Speaker 6: are being spoken about. He's being compared, how he's being compared,

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Speaker 6: whether it's to the other side of the ball on

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Speaker 6: of that money being thrown around or even to other teams.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's Max Crosby with his deal or Miles Garrett

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Speaker 6: with his deal and the value that they've been shown.

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Speaker 6: So I think that the personal the personal issues that

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Speaker 6: he's talking about and that he alludes to in his

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Speaker 4: Trey Henderson is known as we have described him several times.

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Speaker 4: He's like a star on the Bengals defense, and I

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Speaker 4: look elsewhere at a name that we continue to say,

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Speaker 4: when is this contract coming on a star on a

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Speaker 3: They don't play the same position.

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Speaker 4: I get that, but in terms of singular player impact

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Speaker 4: on a defense, it must be infuriating if I put

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Speaker 4: myself in that scenario, whether you're in Dallas or Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: because you're seeing seems everyone else on your team, for example,

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Speaker 4: a pair of wide receivers get paid right in front

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Speaker 4: of you, and it's just like, where is the investment going?

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Speaker 4: You can't be a lopsided team. Is there some part

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Speaker 4: of the rage factor that comes in with I am

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Speaker 4: at times? Trey Henderson is a singular pillar holding up

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Speaker 4: this Bengals defense?

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Speaker 3: Just invest in me? What's that about?

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Speaker 4: How does that make one feel if you're seeing your

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Speaker 8: Let's think about it, like when you know what you

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Speaker 8: mean to the team right, we would shooting like that

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Speaker 8: every player in every lockerroom know you mean to the team?

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Speaker 8: Would you bring to the table. And when you see

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Speaker 8: but I want every player out there getting paid. Get

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Speaker 8: the money from the owners. We have a short time

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Speaker 8: in our careers to get it right. That's just the

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Speaker 8: bottom line. So you're happy for them, but you have

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Speaker 8: to also understand, like, when is my turn? What do

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Speaker 8: I have to sacrifice more to get what you told

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Speaker 8: me if going to get So you're happy for your teammates,

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Speaker 8: you're cheering them on, you're texting them congratulations, but when

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Speaker 8: is it my turn?

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Speaker 3: Sure that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Four of his eight seasons he said double digit sacks.

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Speaker 4: In the last two years, he said seventeen and a

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Speaker 4: half each season.

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Speaker 9: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 4: We love feel good stories, and here's one about Sandy Combs.

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Speaker 3: We got miss Sandy Combs a GMFP.

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Speaker 4: Good morning to you, Miss Combs. Nothing has ever been

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Speaker 6: Now, miss Sandy. Not only did he help you with

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Speaker 9: There some of it. I'm hold school. You don't tell everything.

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Speaker 10: I said, you are such a nice young man. I said,

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Speaker 11: I love that, Missie. How long did it take you

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Speaker 9: He didn't say he was a Heisman trophy. When he

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Speaker 7: Now, Sandy, you were talking about social media, the downfalls

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Speaker 10: Everybody has called me. They want to know, did you

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Speaker 9: He lives, but I beg in phone calls. My family.

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Speaker 10: People I had heard from are like, girl, do you

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you had an NFL team before this.

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Speaker 4: Do yeah, Miss Amy Comes, you are fantastic and whatever

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Speaker 4: You should everything Jaguars. That is your new best friend,

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Speaker 4: It's a new part of your family. Travis Hunter, what

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Speaker 4: a cool story. Thank you so much, you're amazing and

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to GMFB. We've had some.

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Speaker 4: Time to properly processed that's twenty five schedule, and we

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Speaker 4: keep trying. Guys at the table. I will throw out

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Speaker 4: I understand and I fully commit, or say keep trying.

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Speaker 4: The Chiefs have the most primetime games at seven.

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Speaker 4: the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: The next couple of.

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Speaker 4: Teams with the most primetime games are teams like the

439
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Speaker 4: Lions and the Bills. They have five, as well as

440
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Speaker 4: the Atlanta Falcons. The schedulers might know something. Are you

441
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Speaker 4: buying that the Atlanta Falcons could be this year's version

442
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Speaker 4: of the Commander's manti Let's.

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Speaker 12: At the table real quick, okay, guys, let's talk about

444
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Speaker 12: when we compare. We've compared so many teams to the Commanders,

445
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Speaker 12: so let's talk about the Commanders first.

446
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Speaker 2: Who are the Commanders in twenty twenty three? Their record

447
00:23:04,108 --> 00:23:05,108
Speaker 2: is four? Weren't thirteen?

448
00:23:05,188 --> 00:23:08,188
Speaker 12: That was a four way tie for the second worst

449
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Speaker 12: record in the NFL. They had the number two overall

450
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Speaker 12: pick in the twenty twenty four draft, which they picked

451
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Speaker 12: Jaden Daniels.

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Speaker 2: So that's understanding who the Commanders were.

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Speaker 12: So when we start to get into this question of

454
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Speaker 12: can the Atlanta Falcons be the Commanders, I don't think

455
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Speaker 12: it even is a conversation because I don't put the

456
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Speaker 12: Atlanta Falcons in the same category as the Commanders. Why

457
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Speaker 12: because playing in the NFC South, when I think as

458
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Speaker 12: a as a as a saint, when I think about

459
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Speaker 12: the Atlanta Falcons, they are one of the best teams

460
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Speaker 12: that always they're always competing for an NFC South champion championship.

461
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Speaker 2: I couldn't say that about the Commanders.

462
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Speaker 12: So just that alone, guys, the expectation for the Commanders

463
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Speaker 12: wasn't high going into the twenty twenty four season.

464
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Speaker 2: Why were they such a Cinderella story? Well, they had losing.

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Speaker 12: Records, they get the number two overall pick, they play

466
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Speaker 12: in the NFC Championship, they have the offensive Rookie Player

467
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Speaker 12: of the Year.

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Speaker 2: That is something that we didn't expect.

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Speaker 12: The expectation for the Atlanta Falcons is you're always going

470
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Speaker 12: to be playing for the NFC South Championship, You're always

471
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Speaker 12: going to be competitive, You're always going to be fighting

472
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Speaker 12: for a playoff spot.

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm on the keep trying train for.

474
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Speaker 12: A shot because I just think that it's there's two

475
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Speaker 12: different scenarios when you're considering the Atlanta Falcons and the Commanders. Now,

476
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Speaker 12: if we consider the Carolina Panthers, I think that would

477
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Speaker 12: be more fitting to put them into this conversation just

478
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Speaker 12: on the expectation factor of.

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Speaker 2: Where they're going into twenty twenty five. I'd like that

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Speaker 2: take in.

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Speaker 13: The expectations, you know, when it comes to it, when

482
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Speaker 13: it comes to the Atlanta Falcons are high right now.

483
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Speaker 13: I mean they got a stellar offensive side of the football.

484
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Speaker 13: I mean, you got a first round draft pick and

485
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Speaker 13: Michael over there trying to become something special and I

486
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Speaker 13: think he will. But also you got to think about it.

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Speaker 13: They got b John Robinson. They got also Drake London,

488
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Speaker 13: they got Mooney, they got Kyle Pitts, they got a

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Speaker 13: lot of players, and I think the NFC South is

490
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Speaker 13: kind of open right now. When you look at Tampa,

491
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Speaker 13: I think they're heading it up, but it's wide open. Yeah,

492
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Speaker 13: the same thing kind of Commanders came out of nowhere.

493
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Speaker 2: I think under with Michael at the.

494
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Speaker 13: Quarterback position, can take over and be that Celoretta Cinderella

495
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Speaker 13: team because nobody has taken the throne in the NFC

496
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Speaker 13: South right now.

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Speaker 8: In my head, I understand. But as we know our

498
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Speaker 8: primetime games, you could push those games, so we could

499
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Speaker 8: sit there and say, hey, they could be the new Commanders.

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Speaker 8: We just just don't know until the season starts. Right,

501
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Speaker 8: they can have a strong season and all of a

502
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Speaker 8: sudden they're like, this makes sense, prime time, prime time,

503
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Speaker 8: prime time. They got to sell the team. They're in

504
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Speaker 8: a good conference. They always show up, but can they

505
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Speaker 8: really do it. We don't know until it starts. And again,

506
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Speaker 8: we could flex anything. Any game can be flexed. I've

507
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Speaker 8: been a part of that myself. You know, we got

508
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Speaker 8: a flex ah man, that means terrible, flex.

509
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Speaker 3: In or flex out. That's right, flex out.

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Speaker 4: The ultimate compliment actually might be if you're not at

511
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Speaker 4: five top five primetime games yet, and you get the

512
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Speaker 4: late season flex in, which means like.

513
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Speaker 3: America wants to watch you. People really bought in.

514
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Speaker 4: But man, the insults of the team that gets flexed

515
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Speaker 4: out of Sunday Night football conal reality.

516
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Speaker 8: You sitting there like we got flexed.

517
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Speaker 4: At least I get to get home Sunday night. It's

518
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Speaker 4: so funny when your team is having a hard season.

519
00:26:20,748 --> 00:26:23,108
Speaker 4: Why are we all laughing with pain? I feel badly for.

520
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Speaker 3: Those times before all been flexed out. Exactly, buy in

521
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Speaker 3: or keep trying the following statement.

522
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Speaker 4: The strength of schedule as a concept. Right now, the Giants,

523
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Speaker 4: for example, have the most challenging strength of schedule, and

524
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Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine ers are at sitting.

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Speaker 3: At number two. So just run through that.

526
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Speaker 4: For the twenty twenty five season, opponents win percentage compared

527
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Speaker 4: to last season. This is how you calculate strength of schedule. Woof,

528
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Speaker 4: that's about as much math as I want to do

529
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Speaker 4: in this class. Buying or keep trying the strength of

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Speaker 4: schedule as a principle is overrated, Mantai.

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Speaker 2: It's so overrated. You're buying, I'm buying. It's it's so

532
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Speaker 2: obrat You see you said two words, Jamie, that great

533
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Speaker 2: beautiful dialogue which you always do.

534
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Speaker 12: You said last season.

535
00:27:09,868 --> 00:27:11,908
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, we know sitting at.

536
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Speaker 12: This table, even the Philadelphia Eagles are a different team,

537
00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:18,148
Speaker 12: even though they won the Super Bowl, we don't know

538
00:27:18,468 --> 00:27:20,708
Speaker 12: what it's going to look like. They've had, they let

539
00:27:20,748 --> 00:27:23,548
Speaker 12: some guys go, they had the draft class, so there's

540
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Speaker 12: a whole different part of ingredients that they're trying to

541
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Speaker 12: mix up there. So we don't know what the expectation

542
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Speaker 12: is going to be for every team in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So for me, I'm buying this.

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Speaker 12: That it is overrated. Why because this is based on

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty four. It is now twenty twenty five. We

546
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Speaker 12: don't know who's going to get flex, who's not going

547
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Speaker 12: to get flex, What teams in the ladder end of

548
00:27:43,668 --> 00:27:45,548
Speaker 12: the season is going to start to click and do

549
00:27:45,668 --> 00:27:47,068
Speaker 12: well and start to get that groove.

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Speaker 2: We don't know that.

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Speaker 12: So for me, when I look at a strength of

552
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Speaker 12: schedule Rashot.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking like, this is the most overrated thing

554
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Speaker 2: that you could create for.

555
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Speaker 12: And I get it it creates stuff for us for

556
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Speaker 12: us to talk about.

557
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Speaker 2: But I'm buying that it's oprated.

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Speaker 13: I'm gonna have to disagree now for this reason. This

559
00:28:03,308 --> 00:28:06,508
Speaker 13: reason because as a player, right as an athlete, we

560
00:28:06,668 --> 00:28:09,628
Speaker 13: think it's overrated for sure, because I don't care how

561
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Speaker 13: many games the other team won last week last year.

562
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Speaker 13: I don't care how many games they won this year.

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Speaker 2: I gotta play this week. But for the fandom side of.

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Speaker 13: It, if you really think about I think my beloved Johns,

565
00:28:20,828 --> 00:28:25,268
Speaker 13: my beloved Johnson playing against the Commanders first Huh, Dallas Cowboys,

566
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Speaker 13: then in Kansas City Chiefs the Chargers. Like we start

567
00:28:29,828 --> 00:28:32,228
Speaker 13: thinking about this, it's like, wait a second, that's a

568
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Speaker 13: hard schedule. I kind of understand their wins versus another

569
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Speaker 13: team's wins.

570
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Speaker 2: What they're going through.

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Speaker 13: So for that fashion, I will have to say it's

572
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Speaker 13: not overrated.

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Speaker 2: It's just something that is not It doesn't matter to

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Speaker 2: the particular player.

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Speaker 13: But as far as setting the schedule, setting the bronzeime games,

576
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Speaker 13: all of these things matter.

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Speaker 2: Very early.

578
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Speaker 4: That schedule looks ruthless because not only to the first

579
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Speaker 4: four weeks look like that that little those couple of

580
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Speaker 4: words there at the bottom of the screen with the

581
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Speaker 4: yellow implies that you have to wait all the way

582
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Speaker 4: until we mourteen to take a break, to take.

583
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Speaker 3: A beat, to take a breath.

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Speaker 4: The Giants have done some really great things in the

585
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Speaker 4: off season, but that is hellish.

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Speaker 13: I mean, any team, any team having to go against

587
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Speaker 13: all of those teams in a row Denver is ridiculous.

588
00:29:19,228 --> 00:29:24,748
Speaker 13: Their defense Eagles, Eagles twice. The whole entire schedule.

589
00:29:24,468 --> 00:29:26,388
Speaker 2: Is very difficult for the Giants well.

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Speaker 12: Also, also to add to that point, shot, you got

591
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Speaker 12: two rookies that are leading.

592
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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart is a rookie and for all of.

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Speaker 12: Us who've played in the NFL, the hardest year is

594
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Speaker 12: the rookie year. You go from you go from your

595
00:29:41,788 --> 00:29:43,708
Speaker 12: Bowl game, then from your boat game, you go to

596
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Speaker 12: whatever All American game.

597
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Speaker 2: Than for an All American game, you go to train,

598
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Speaker 2: then you do the combined and you're doing all the

599
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Speaker 2: working wall. So if you are waiting.

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Speaker 12: To what they say, Jamie week sixteen, fourteen fourteen, for

601
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Speaker 12: these rookies, especially New York Giants, you are having a

602
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Speaker 12: rookie as a quarterback.

603
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Speaker 2: That's been the question mark.

604
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Speaker 3: Allegedly, we'll see if he's starting.

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Speaker 4: You think it's starting Week one.

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Speaker 8: You gotta do something right. If you you ain't gonna

607
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Speaker 8: make all this controversy and not do it. It's in

608
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Speaker 8: New York. You gotta do it, Dave All. You know

609
00:30:21,548 --> 00:30:23,148
Speaker 8: he's he's the heck of a coach, and we know

610
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Speaker 8: what he's going to happen. But look, when I look

611
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Speaker 8: at the schedule, I look at from a player's point

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Speaker 8: of view. In the trenches, right, who am I facing

613
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Speaker 8: the first couple of weeks. Is it going to be

614
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Speaker 8: a hard game or is it going to be a

615
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Speaker 8: hard game at the end of the season. When you're

616
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Speaker 8: in those trenches, that's a grind. We're going to grind

617
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Speaker 8: out out. My body is going to be beat up.

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Speaker 8: Who's going to be developed? Whose confidence is going to

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Speaker 8: be shot? That all happens when I look at the

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Speaker 8: strength of the schedule. So when we look at football

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Speaker 8: aspect of it, if you got a lighter in the

622
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Speaker 8: the schedule, you're gonna play your younger guys, develop them,

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Speaker 8: get confidence, and at the end, when you got the

624
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Speaker 8: harder schedule, you get all your older veterans in. Get

625
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Speaker 8: them in there, play hard, understanding that they're gonna take

626
00:31:01,668 --> 00:31:05,148
Speaker 8: those ups and downs, they're gonna finish strong. But vice verse.

627
00:31:05,148 --> 00:31:07,068
Speaker 8: So you got a hard schedule coming out. You can

628
00:31:07,108 --> 00:31:09,988
Speaker 8: shoot somebody's confidence. You can sit there and they be like, hey,

629
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Speaker 8: we don't we can't play you at the end of

630
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Speaker 8: season as much because you're beat up. You hit that

631
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Speaker 8: rookie wall. I love bye weeks around ten and eleven.

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Speaker 8: Bye we got week three is yes, it does nothing

633
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Speaker 8: for me. We're sitting here, like, what does this do

634
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Speaker 8: for me? I'm just going to sit there. Come off

635
00:31:26,108 --> 00:31:28,428
Speaker 8: training camp, go go play three games and have a.

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Speaker 2: Buying I don't need a break. You don't need a break, Laurence.

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Speaker 4: The strengthen schedule for you sitting in that chair is brutal.

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00:31:35,108 --> 00:31:36,668
Speaker 4: Right now, the next time we have a topic, I'm

639
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Speaker 4: gonna come to you first, because what just happened to

640
00:31:38,508 --> 00:31:40,828
Speaker 4: you is like rarely done on GFF, which is I

641
00:31:40,828 --> 00:31:43,468
Speaker 4: start with Manti. Then somehow we snowballed into a secondary

642
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Speaker 4: question about whether or not Jackson Dart's gonna start for

643
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Speaker 4: the Giants. You had to answer both questions and you

644
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Speaker 4: still got us there.

645
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Speaker 3: Don't worry.

646
00:31:49,948 --> 00:31:52,068
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ease up on you. Your bie is coming.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna come to you first, and the next question, okay,

648
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Speaker 4: all right, good football