1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,199 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: okay Storytime podcast host, and we got some great stories 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: coming up. Before that, we have a quick two minute 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: break from the sponsors that keep the show a lot. 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: My ex wife opened credit cards in my name. She 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: said I'd never see my son again if I called 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: the police. 8 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: And that's when you call the police. 9 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: This is a sad situation. But after my divorce, I 10 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: ended up moving about thirty miles away where I bought 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: a house and got a job transfer. The divorce was 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: finalized about four years ago. She got primary custody as 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: she lives in the school district, though I got most 14 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: weekends and holidays. By the way, this comes from credit 15 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: throwaway too. And if you want to sumit your own stories, 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: go to our sas shokey Storytime suburt it. Oh, we've 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: been fairly cordial about it and it's been working for 18 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: a while. Eventually, i'd like to get to a fifty 19 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: to fifty as she'll be moving to a different school 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: district once he hits high school shortly and I just 21 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: move into that district. My problem is that my access 22 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: opened up a couple of credit cards in my name. 23 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: That's a big stinking problem. 24 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 25 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder what the people in charge of of 26 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: dictating custody would have to say about that. 27 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: I had no idea this was happening until I received 28 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: a letter from a collection agency. It was pretty obvious 29 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: she was the one who opened the accounts, as the 30 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: addresses on the accounts are hers and it looks like 31 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: the statements are mainly from where she shops. When I 32 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: dropped our son off on Monday, I told her I 33 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: found the accounts and I'd have to go to the 34 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: police unless she pay them off completely right away. She 35 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: denied it at first, then said if I went to 36 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: the police, she'd disallow visitation for safety reasons. Unfortunately, she'd 37 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: be able to do this and has done so in 38 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: the past, requiring me to go back to court with 39 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: my lawyer to force her to follow the parenting agreement. 40 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: That's how I gained all holidays shortly after the divorce, 41 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: basically as a punishment for failing to comply with the 42 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: parenting order, but still allowing her to be the custodial parent. 43 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: So potentially, if you went back to court, you'd probably 44 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: get more custody. 45 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, if she did this, if anything, I would let 46 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: her dig her own sort of grave here, like also 47 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: any of get all of this on record, record this. 48 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: I don't want my son to have to go through this, 49 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: but I am certainly not taking the hit to my 50 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: credit for what she's doing. I'm probably going to make 51 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: the report. But is there anything else I'd be missing here? 52 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: Top comment says commoner one says, copying this for every 53 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: identity theft situation I see on here, since it seems 54 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: to have it a lot where you know who the 55 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: person is, who's still your identity? This is all information 56 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: you can find in the subs and other One. Call 57 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: the police. You're the victim of identity theft, plain and simple. 58 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who did it or what your relationship 59 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: is to them. They broke the law. Now they have 60 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: to face the consequences of their actions. 61 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: Two. 62 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Freeze your credit. You want to make sure it doesn't 63 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: happen again. Take the proactive route of freezing your credit. 64 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: Three Monitor and track your credit. You need to be 65 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: alerted if anyone tries opening a line of credit in 66 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: your name. This gives you a way to do it, 67 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: and it shows your credit score. Four war than anyone 68 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: else who might be a victim five, take the police 69 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: report to the credit bureaus and uh they continue for. 70 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: A long time time. 71 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. Common Er two, turn her 72 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: in and use that to get full custody. Family courts 73 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: tend to frown upron crime. It would also be good 74 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: to try to get her threats of parental alienation on video. 75 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: Talk to your lawyer and start gathering evidence. 76 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: Hey, guess who else said that? That's what I said, 77 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: So do that. 78 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: Commoner, force this dude stop being a doormat and turn 79 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: her in. She won't have a leg to stand on 80 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: if she's in jail. I don't know why you think 81 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: she has any bargaining power here when she will get 82 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: in trouble for identity theft and not following the custody 83 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: agreement by extorting you not to turn her in. 84 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: Lol. 85 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: And there is an update update jail. I hope, yeah, 86 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: I hope it's that she went to jail for freaking 87 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: blackmailing him. 88 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, or at the very least, like actually paid that 89 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: money at the very least. 90 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the only options here. 91 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: I hope it's jail so that you can get full 92 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: custody of your kids, because clearly the court gave them 93 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: to the wrong person. 94 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, why would they ever give it to this lady? 95 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: Oh, why would the court ever? I'm not even gonna 96 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: open that. 97 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: Well, we know why, but you know why? 98 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: Why? 99 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: Why are the courts so bad at figuring out who's good? 100 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: Update, there's some good and some bad. Unfortunately, since this 101 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: started several months ago, she has been horrible. I went 102 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: to the police regarding the credit card accounts. Getting the 103 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: report was painless, and they said it happens a lot. 104 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: Both that the credit cards have dropped off my credit report, 105 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: my credit is back to normal, and I've set up 106 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 2: a credit monitor and to make sure it doesn't happen again. 107 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't look like she's going to be prosecuted for 108 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: opening the cards in my name. I was told when 109 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: I made the report it would be up to the 110 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: credit card companies to cooperate with the prosecutors if they 111 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: wanted to go through with fraud charges. What Apparently they 112 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: don't cooperate most of the time. But I can still 113 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: ask the county to prosecute on behalf of myself, which 114 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: I did. 115 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: That's the most insane thing I've heard all day. 116 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they probably don't want, like, you know, they 117 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 2: probably don't want to admit that this happened under their watcher. 118 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: Maybe something that I have no idea, but I have 119 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: no clue. In November, I got a formal letter saying 120 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: they wouldn't be prosecuting my case. I asked a criminal 121 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: defense lawyer I know about it, and he said the 122 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: county maybe goes forward with ten percent of criminal cases 123 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: where people get arrested. It's nearly zero where there is 124 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: no probable cause for unrest. He said his job is 125 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: basically just working out deals for clearly guilty. 126 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: People so really quick. 127 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, it's like in the age of the Internet. Sometimes 128 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: it's like if this credit bureau, whatever your creditor is, 129 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 4: now you have to start blasting them on social media. 130 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: You have to create a negative steamroll, a negative snowball somehow, 131 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: and that's going to be the only thing that gets 132 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 4: them to take action. You go, hey, hey, everybody, don't 133 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: go using X bank because teching you can get defrauded 134 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: and they won't do anything about it. 135 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: That's all you can do now. 136 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: He said his job is basically just working out deals 137 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: for clearly guilty people. He also said to let it 138 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: go at this point, so I've come to terms with 139 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: the fact that she's not going to have criminal charges 140 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: and probably not even a lawsuit. She also did exactly 141 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: what she said she would do and stopped letting me 142 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: see our son. I've documented every instance about thirty total 143 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: since September that she's failed to follow our court ordered 144 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: custody agreement. I finally got her served at work. That's 145 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 2: another thing I don't like about family courts, and she 146 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: claimed I was abusive and manipulative the police report for 147 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 2: the credit cards and basically said the visitation violation started 148 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: the week after I made the report. The judge basically 149 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: gave her a final chance to follow the order before 150 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: he would grant an alteration and she'd possibly face criminal charge. 151 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: What the. 152 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: Chances does she get She's already done this before. 153 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: Who is this judge? 154 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: She's literally already taken his son away from him before. 155 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: This is just this absolutely just hmm yeah, Okay, So 156 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 4: she stole's identity, she racked up a bunch of debt 157 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: in his name illegally, and then she extorted their child 158 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: and used it as a bargaining chip to get what 159 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: she wanted. 160 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: So we'll give you one more chance. 161 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: More chance, But we're gonna give you one more chance 162 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: to listen to more full episodes with stories just like this. 163 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcast or your favorite podcast 164 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: app and search up a story time and there's a 165 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: teeny we need bit left, So we're gonna jump right 166 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: into it. Let's go the first child exchange. After hearing 167 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, she said she needs more 168 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: child support and alimony, asking for an extra fifteen hundred 169 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: dollars per month. And I would be like, oh, you 170 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: actually already took that. 171 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be like, why don't she already have that? 172 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: Why don't you go ahead and open another credit card 173 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: in my name and rack that one up because you 174 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: didn't have any consequences for that, And uh, yeah. 175 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: I actually already gave that to you, and you stole 176 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: my credit card. 177 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: I guess you're allowed to get away with identity lately anything, 178 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: So Dwight Shrewt was wrong. 179 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: Identity theft is a joke. 180 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: It's a joke, and apparently it doesn't get prosecuted wherever 181 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: op is. 182 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: I told her, absolutely not. Last week I went to 183 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: pick him up. She never showed up, and I got 184 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: a documentation number from the police. Next day, new account 185 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: detected email. I got the account canceled before the card 186 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: was even sent to her address, froze my credit, made 187 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: another report waiting for the will not prosecute letter. She's 188 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: failed to show up with him ever since. Got her 189 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: served at work, and our new hearing is in a 190 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: week and a half. If she gets another freaking chance, 191 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna gonna riot, go out in. 192 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: The streets and riot. 193 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: I know eventually things are going to work out, but 194 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: she's really testing my nerves. Commoner one says, this is 195 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: exactly why CC fraud is so rampant. Nothing has ever 196 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: done about it. Commoner two says, get her threats in 197 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: writing and then report her anyway. If she tries to 198 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: f with your custodies, submit her messages as evidence, and 199 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: common to three, persistence will pay off in the long run. 200 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: If she is like this with you, there is no 201 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: telling how she will start treating your child when they 202 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: get to their less agreeable stages of life. Hang in there, 203 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: common Er four, Dang, she's not very bright. This is 204 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 2: all going to end up biting her in the butt, 205 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: and I pray it does. I think it's going to 206 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: end up working out in your favor eventually, OPI, So 207 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: what did she learn by not getting any consequences? She 208 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: learned she can get away with it and figured it's 209 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: okay to attempt to steal from you and f up 210 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: your credit yet again. I think that judge is going 211 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: to be pretty pissed off at her for not following 212 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: custody agreements whatsoever. Again, don't know if the prosecutors will 213 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: do anything about the credit card yet again, as it 214 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: sounds like she didn't even get to max it out 215 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: this time. It's insane to me she opened yet another 216 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: credit card. She's got some balls, and that is the 217 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: end of that story. I really hope that it works 218 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: out for you and that she gets some sort of 219 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: repercussions for this attitude. 220 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: I wonder if there's an update. 221 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: I bet there's not, because it's a pretty fresh story. 222 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. 223 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it does not seem as though there is one. 224 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: I'm just hoping it works out for Ope. 225 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,359 Speaker 4: My ex boyfriend's wife isolated him from his family and friends. 226 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: I need to help. 227 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: Him, only if it's not at the detriment of yourself. 228 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: Let's get some more info here, A little background. Sorry, 229 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: there's lots of text and names. I'll try to keep 230 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: this as clear as possible. My ex boyfriend Bill and 231 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: I were together for ten years, from the ages of 232 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty five. We lived together for the last 233 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 4: five years of the relationship. By the way, this comes 234 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 4: from user t rex and if you we want to 235 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Showkay stories, 236 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: I'm so ready. We broke up very amicably with zero 237 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: hard feelings. We just realized that we had both grown 238 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: up into two very different people that we were at 239 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: fifteenth shocker. I'm still friendly with his mother and his 240 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: brother Fred through Facebook. Bill is also friends with my 241 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: family members, and we have lots of mutual friends. After 242 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 4: we broke up, we remained friends, and a couple of 243 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: years later, I met my wonderful husband, thirty eight male 244 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 4: and I now have a gorgeous little. 245 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: Girl who's four years old. 246 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: Bill also met his current wife, Fiona around the same 247 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: time I met my husband. We've both met each other's 248 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: spouses and have gotten along well over time. Bill and 249 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: I grew even further apart and only exchanged niceties over 250 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: Facebook once in a while. Again, no hard feelings, it's 251 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: all just part of growing up. The problems started when 252 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: I fell pregnant with my daughter. I always love that 253 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: fellow pregnant Bill and Fiona have had trouble conceiving, and 254 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: while I sympathize with the struggle they're having, it has 255 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: started affecting their relationships with our mutual friends. Started getting 256 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: a little unhinged for lack of a better term, when 257 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: she found out I was pregnant and told Bill he 258 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: couldn't contact me anymore. 259 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: I didn't really care. 260 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: I understand it must be hard for her, so I 261 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: didn't say anything at all, as it's none of my business. 262 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: After that, she started defriending and blocking all of our 263 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: mutual friends who were pregnant. 264 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: Or had kids. 265 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: This hurt my best friend Anne's feelings as she was 266 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: also Bill's best friend. Anne moved across the country and 267 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: Fiona told Bill that he couldn't see Anne when she 268 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 4: came to visit, which hurt Anne even more. I got 269 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: pissed at Bill, and even though I wanted to stay 270 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: out of it, I had to tell him how much 271 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: he hurt Anne. He told me that he would make 272 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: an extra effort next time she visited, but he never did. 273 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: Now Fiona and Bill have moved halfway around the world 274 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: to Australia. She's got off all contact with his family. 275 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: She literally ran away to Australia. 276 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, we're running to Australia. 277 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: No one off, I'll find us. 278 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: We'd know and want to find acid. None of their 279 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: babies will be able to assault my eyeballs. 280 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 4: Bill's older brother, Fred had a baby recently, and Fiona 281 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: instantly defriended Fred and his wife, as well as Bill 282 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: and Fred's mother. She refuses to let Bill spend time 283 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 4: with his family over the holidays, and wouldn't let him 284 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: stay with his family when he came back to visit 285 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: without her. I have largely stayed out of this whole 286 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: situation because I do not want to get involved with 287 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: the crazy, But recently Fiona has started emailing me. She 288 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: got my email somehow from Bill's account and has told 289 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: me that I should stop talking to all our mutual 290 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 4: friends so she can add them back on Facebook. What 291 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: the ever loving for, rickety dude? Adh does that mean? 292 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: She's also telling me very personal details about their relationship 293 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: and asking my advice, which is just crazy. She wants 294 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 4: me to write up a statement that says that my 295 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: ex has autism. He doesn't, so she can give it 296 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: to his doctor. I haven't responded to any of her emails, 297 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: and I don't know what to do. 298 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 3: Dude, that sounds like a crazy control thing. Crazy control thing. 299 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: It's like you're trying to get your your husband a 300 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: formal autism diagnosis, and I don't feel like you're doing 301 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 4: it because You're like, I. 302 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: Want my husband to fully understand himself. 303 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: You're like, I want my husband to feel like I 304 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: have or knee to be more in control of him 305 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: than I already am. 306 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: No, this is all very, very bad, and also I 307 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: think you should block her. Yes, I don't think you 308 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: should let yeah. Just ignore her stuff, don't give her 309 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: anything to work with. 310 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: I haven't responded to any of her emails, and I 311 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: don't know what to do. I've had zero contact with 312 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 4: Bill over the last two years since I talked to 313 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: him about Anne, and I'm getting all this information from 314 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: our mutual friends. This woman is obviously disturbed, and as 315 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: much as I want to stay out of it, she 316 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: is hurting people I care about, and I think might 317 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 4: be emotionally abusing my ex, who may be a pushover 318 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: but is a genuinely nice guy. 319 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: What can I do to help him? Read it? 320 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: I'm one hundred percent sure she's reading his emails and Facebook, 321 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: so I can't message him privately. Also, he lives in 322 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 4: another country, so I can't try to meet up with him. 323 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: There's definitely something wrong with her, and I want to 324 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 4: try to help her out too. 325 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: I think you're taking on the little hero complex a 326 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: little bit here. Yeah, they're honestly, because you are not 327 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: that close, and you're also not physically close, there's not 328 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: really anything that you can do. Maybe you could reach 329 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: out to his family, but unfortunately. 330 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: They probably already know that. 331 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there really isn't that much you can do. 332 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's nice that you care, it is, but 333 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: like it is, Yeah, you're concerned with the wrong bucket. 334 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: You need to be concerned with your bucket, not Bill's 335 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: bucket with his horrible wife. 336 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: Hey, just you know comments number one. 337 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: I would forward all the messages first to his family, 338 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: asking if they know. 339 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: What's going on. 340 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: Next, I would ford them to Bill's email, saying you 341 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 4: got these messages and are really worried. Even if she 342 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: can see them, she knows that she can't get to 343 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: him through you. Unfortunately, what you can do is limited. 344 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 4: They're in a different country. You don't have any means 345 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: of communication. You could call the police in that country, 346 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: but I don't know if they'll be able to do anything. 347 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: Ultimately, he's an adult. 348 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: So unless there's proof that she's abusing him or holding 349 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: him against his will, there's not much you or his 350 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: family and friends can do. Comment to maybe reach out 351 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: with your concerns to Fred since you stayed friendly with him, 352 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure he has similar reservations about Fiona, and maybe 353 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: you validating them will help him support Bill as he 354 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: deals with his wife's issues and or abuse. I don't 355 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: know what else you can do since they live far 356 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: away and you don't have any contact with Bill. Opie replied, 357 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: I talked to Fred recently to congratulate him about the baby. 358 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: I casually asked about how Bill was doing, and that's 359 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: when I learned about how he's not allowed to. 360 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: Stay with his folks when he visits. 361 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: Fred is rightfully pissed off and wants nothing to do 362 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: with Fiona or Bill. I'll forward the emails to him anyway, 363 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: so at least a family has a record of it. 364 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: And here's the update, and I think right there, if 365 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: Bred illuminated, he doesn't want anything to do with Bill 366 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: because at some point it's like you have to grow 367 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 4: a spine. What do you want me to do? You 368 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: want to get in there and weld it together. 369 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: So no, it's really I mean, it's really hard because 370 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: when people are in situations like this where there it's 371 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: like abuse. So even if it's just like emotional, it's 372 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: really hard to get out of those situations. But only 373 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: you can get yourself out of it because it is 374 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: mental and because you are kind of been manipulated and stuff, 375 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: and you're just not gonna listen to anything else that 376 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: other people have to say until you make that decision. 377 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: Update Hello. 378 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: Even though my original post didn't get a lot of attention, 379 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: there were some good responses, and I thought I would 380 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: update everyone as a lot has happened in the last 381 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: couple of weeks. So I forwarded her messages to my 382 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: ex's brother Fred. He called me immediately and said that 383 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: he would try to get a hold of his brother 384 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: as soon as possible. I forgot to say in my 385 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: earlier post, but Bill works as an independent consultant slash 386 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: contractor in it, so it was hard getting a hold 387 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: of him in his workplace. 388 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: That doesn't sound right. Every IT guy I know used 389 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: a discord. 390 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: Frank received a few responses from Bill, just short emails 391 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: saying he was okay, but Fred really wasn't buying it. Thankfully, 392 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: I hadn't received any more messages from Fiona. I didn't 393 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: reply to any of her emails, so I guess she 394 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: gave up. I didn't think there was much more that 395 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: anyone could do, so I just got on with looking 396 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: after my own family. My husband, Dan knew that I 397 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: was worried about my ex, and as a testament to 398 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 4: what a great guy he is, he set about trying 399 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: to contact him, as they both work in the same 400 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: field of it. I know apparently I have a specialized tire. 401 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: Dan is close to his boss and told him about 402 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: the situation. Dan's boss contacted Bill through LinkedIn to set 403 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: up a Skype consult Dan's reasoning is that if Fiona 404 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: is monitoring Bill's email and social media, then this will 405 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 4: fly under her radar as she doesn't know Dan's boss 406 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 4: and his connection to us. My husband is a sneaky. 407 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: Clever, cheeky little guy. 408 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 4: They scheduled the call a day later and my husband 409 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 4: hopped onto the call as well. He didn't tell me 410 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 4: exactly what he said, but the gist of it was 411 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 4: that Dan and his boss told Bill that we were 412 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 4: all worried about him and that if he needed help 413 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 4: to just let us know. Bill broke down and started crying. 414 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: Ah. 415 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: He felt so hopeless and thought that no one cared 416 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 4: about him. 417 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: Ah wait, okay, he you know what, take I'll take 418 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: it back. You freaking did the right thing, and like, 419 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: what a what a kind, loving person you are, because 420 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: I was like, there's really not much you can do, 421 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: but like you were the only one out there was like, no, 422 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: I have to do something. 423 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: I mean, there's not much you can do other than 424 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: express it. Yeah, which you've said it. That's really as 425 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: far as it goes. And it seems like that's all 426 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: you needed, perfectly enough for him to be like, oh 427 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: my god, you're right. 428 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: But like, well, I think just the fact that he 429 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: went the extra mile of like setting up this, like 430 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 2: talking to Fred, setting up this thing, getting the husband involved, 431 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: like it all, be a good person. 432 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 5: Up. 433 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: Turns out she was reading all his emails and deleted 434 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: all the ones from his family, as well as controlling 435 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 4: all the finances. She was also physically smacking him and 436 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 4: was too embarrassed to tell anyone. 437 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: She's just shy of five feet and he's six'. 438 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: Four dan and his boss told him to pack his 439 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 4: bags and head to the, airport and they bought him 440 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: a one way ticket back. Home bill arrived home a 441 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 4: week ago or so and he's doing. Well he's staying 442 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 4: with his mother and, father And fred has been helping 443 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: him get back on his feet and handle the legal. 444 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: Stuff needless to, say they are extremely grateful to my 445 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: husband and his boss and have paid back the cost 446 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: of the, ticket as well as Buying dan and his 447 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: boss several bottles of very expensive, bobbon which they insisted. 448 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: On we were happy to cover the, ticket but weren't 449 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: going to argue with. 450 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 4: Them dan AND i told them that now that he's, 451 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 4: home we were going to take a step. Back his 452 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: family is looking after him now and they don't need 453 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 4: our help. Anymore we'll still keep in, touch, though AND 454 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 4: i think we'll always be close To bill and his 455 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: family from now. 456 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: On fred did tell me that the horrendous. 457 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: Ex wives doesn't want to come back, home so we 458 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 4: don't have to worry about her turning up on our. 459 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 4: Doorstep and by the, WAY i will always be worried 460 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 4: that you're not turning up on our, doorstep and that 461 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: doorstep being the full episodes with stories like this one 462 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 4: On spotify And apple podcasts and wherever you get your 463 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 4: podcasts just Search okay story time and you'll have forty 464 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: seven days worth of. Content now we do have a 465 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 4: little bit. LEFT i, mean do we have anything finishing remarks? 466 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: Here finishing. REMARK i just think it's VERY i think 467 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: looking at this story, originally, yeah it seemed like there 468 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: was you could tell the family and that was kind of. 469 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: It BUT OPI i think went the extra mile to 470 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: help someone that she cared, about AND i think that 471 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: really is. 472 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: Wonderful they're lucky to hear that. 473 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 4: Connection, Yeah it's funny how stuff works out like that, 474 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: sometimes you, know it's like these obscure. Connects it's, like, 475 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 4: oh my husband's in. 476 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: It, yeah It and it really is a Sweet you 477 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: had no what's the. 478 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 4: Word you in no way were responsible for helping this guy, 479 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: whatsoever but you. 480 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: Did so let me angel baby. Move. 481 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you are the angel in the. 482 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: Story, yes and now let's finish this. STORY i don't 483 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 4: know How fiona. Reacted she hasn't sent me any, emails 484 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: SO i don't think she KNOWS i was involved or 485 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: what's going to happen, legally BECAUSE i don't want to 486 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: be so involved. Anymore it's time we focused on our 487 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 4: family for a, bit Because i'm. 488 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: Pregnant couldn't have picked a better man to breed. 489 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: With, Also dan's boss Let Dan bill the hours Of 490 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 4: bill's rescue as personal development because there are still decent 491 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 4: people in this. 492 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: World, wow, hey the boss Is. 493 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: Bill the hours that they were helping this. 494 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: Guy, yeah the boss was, like, hey this is LIKE i. 495 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: Liked when DID i? 496 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: Prove that was. 497 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 2: Pretty stellar work helping you're a team player and you 498 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: care about the. 499 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 4: UNDERDOG i mean technically the other guy was in it 500 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: work for they were both in. It, Yeah so, anyway 501 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: we have some comments, Here actually we have one comment 502 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: to finish it. OFF i am enormously impressed at how 503 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 4: this was. Handled that takes some serious maturity on everyone's, 504 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 4: part especially your. 505 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: Husband what an absolutely fantastic. Man, Hey, annette is the internet? 506 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: STORTALLY i love this. 507 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: STORY i think it was a fantastic. STORY i. 508 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: Agree my ex boyfriend's new girlfriend wants to learn the 509 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: truth about our, breakup SO i told. 510 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: Her you can handle the. 511 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: Truth my ex AND i started dating my freshman year 512 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: and we were together for three. Years. Wowe he was 513 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: a complete jerk and borderline abusive pretty much the entire. 514 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: Time the final straw was WHEN i found out he 515 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: had been physically and emotionally cheating on me with one 516 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: of my casual friends for. Months by the, way this 517 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: comes From jellyfish three through through three and if you 518 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: want to spit your own, stories go to our slash 519 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: okay storytime. Separated so WHEN i confronted him about, it 520 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: he tried to lie and squirm his way out of, 521 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: it and WHEN i eventually dragged the truth out of, 522 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: him he ended up blaming me for a variety of. 523 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: Reasons he was one of those people who was very 524 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: charming and manipulative and can't fathom himself doing anything. Wrong 525 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: the worst part is THAT i was still buying his 526 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: bs at this, point AND i even broke up with 527 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: him reluctantly telling HIM i loved him and tried to 528 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 2: spare his. Feelings this was almost a year. Ago after the, 529 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: breakup he moved a couple tens over for, work AND 530 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: i went completely no. Contact as time, PASSED i finally 531 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: came to my. SENSES i REALIZED i only loved him 532 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: because of the reality he was gaslighting onto, me and 533 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: all those little times he hurt me THAT i just 534 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: let slide seemed much more. Malicious my friends told me 535 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: that some of the things he was telling me towards 536 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: the end the truth were lies as. Well it was 537 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: so much worse THAN i had been led to. BELIEVE 538 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: i didn't see how contacting him would help, anything SO 539 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: i just kept my feelings bottled. UP i grew bitter 540 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: and resentful of, him and very angry THAT i had 541 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: spent so much of my college life with this. Jerk 542 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: so flash forward To fourth Of july. WEEKEND i was 543 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: out with some of my friends and we were drinking 544 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: and having a great. Time at one, point my friend 545 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: poke me with a concerned look on her, face and 546 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: AS i turned, AROUND i see my ex with his 547 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: arm around a, girl confidently heading towards. 548 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: Me it's like the theme From jaws starts to. 549 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: PLAY i was kind of in, shock AND i backed 550 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: away as he went for a. Hug he seemed, flustered 551 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: but introduced the girl he was with and asked How 552 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: i'd been. Doing i'm usually calm and, collected BUT i 553 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: was wasted and completely lost my. COOL i called him 554 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: an effing a hole and asked how he had the 555 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: audacity to walk right up to me after what he 556 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: did to. Me they both stood there and just stared at. Me, 557 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: thankfully my friends grabbed me and let me out of 558 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: the bar BEFORE i said slash did something. Worse they 559 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: took me, home calmed me, down and one of my 560 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 2: friends stayed the night with me to make SURE i 561 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: was all. Right that's a NICE i WISH i handled 562 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: the situation. Better while we were, together he told me 563 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: about how all his exes ended up being. Crazy sure 564 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: it had nothing to do with him being an insufferable. 565 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: Ale it was pretty likely THAT i was added to that, 566 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: list especially after the. Incident as far as he was, 567 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: concerned we had ended it on good. 568 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: Terms isn't it funny how that works when like the 569 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: people who were just the, worst the. 570 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: People who missed, you and they're, like, oh, no, no we're. Chill. 571 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: YEAH I, oh why aren't we hanging out? Anymore? Hey 572 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: what what's going? 573 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: On i've never seen her? 574 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: Anymore, oh it's because we broke, up you freaking. 575 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: Idiot YESTERDAY i got A facebook message from the girl 576 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: he was. With she said she was his girlfriend and 577 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 2: then they met during A thanksgiving party and have been dating. 578 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: Since she told me he had mentioned me THAT i 579 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: was his longest, relationship THAT i was really, chill and 580 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: that our breakup was civil and mutual because he was 581 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: leaving town and we didn't want to go long. Distance 582 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: she said she questioned everything he told her after seeing 583 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: how UPSET i. Was she seemed genuine and actually really. 584 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: NICE i haven't replied yet BECAUSE i honestly don't know 585 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: what to. Say my first instinct was to tell her 586 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: to talk to him about, it BUT i know he's 587 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: already lying to. Her our breakup was, civil but only 588 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i was a spineless jellyfish and didn't stand up for. 589 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: MYSELF i had no no idea he was moving until 590 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks after the. 591 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: Breakup oh, okay, wait Just i'm. 592 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 4: SORRY i shouldn't have interrupted, There but that makes NOW 593 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 4: i understand why. 594 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: He's LIKE i thought we were. Cool, yeah but it's, 595 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: Like i'm sure he also was a complete piece of, 596 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: work you. 597 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, WELL i mean it probably was like he was, like, 598 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: oh like we got a breakup and was probably nice 599 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: during the breakup or or something along those. Lines but 600 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: still it doesn't excuse all of the stuff that probably 601 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: happened during. 602 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: The, no of course. 603 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 4: NOT i think it was more he's being informed off 604 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 4: Of op's. Reaction, yes, OH p, SAID i. 605 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: Didn't, really do you? KNOW i didn't let him have 606 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: it or. 607 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: ANYTHING i was, Amicable so he's why wouldn't you think 608 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 4: it was? 609 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: Okay m? 610 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: M because he doesn't use his, brain and if she 611 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: probes him about, it he'll probably lie more to cover it. Up, 612 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 2: honestly leaving him was the best thing that ever happened to. 613 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: Me LIKE i, said he was very charming and, manipulative 614 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: and a lot of people couldn't believe that he'd be 615 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: so horrible to, someone including. MYSELF i was so blinded 616 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: and convinced THAT i was worthless and should be grateful 617 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: this perfect human wanted to be with. Me then, again 618 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: she has no reason to believe. Me maybe he's changed 619 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: and is treating her better than he treated. Me i'd 620 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: be potentially ruining a good relationship for no. Reason so 621 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: what do you guys? Think DO i reply and tell 622 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: her the. Truth DO i reply to her and tell 623 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: her to talk to, him or DO i just completely 624 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: ignore the. Message and there are some. COMMENTS i, mean, 625 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 2: honestly you. Can if you want to just ignore, it 626 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: that's totally within your. Right BUT i think that the 627 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: fact that she is, ASKING i feel like means there 628 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: might be something already. 629 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: Happening, yeah that is a good. 630 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 4: Point it's like it's one thing to just do it 631 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 4: out of the, blue but if you're being directly, Asked, 632 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: yeah that's a different. 633 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: Vibe. 634 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: YEAH i THINK i think she WANTS i think something 635 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: she knows something's up. Already, yeah SO i think you. 636 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: COULD i think you could tell her the. 637 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 4: Truth, yeah if it does blow up the, relationship it's not. 638 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: LIKE i don't think you have to put the guilt 639 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 4: or the blame on you for. 640 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: That there are some. Comments comment one, SAYS i would 641 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: tell her the. Truth try not to be too emotional 642 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: about it in the. Response but matter of, factly you 643 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: don't know him anything and don't need to be covering for. 644 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: Him if you don't care and don't want to deal 645 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: with any, drama just tell her to ask him and 646 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 2: then block. Her opie says this is. True i'm inclined 647 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: to tell, her But i'm just worried That i'll tell 648 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: her my version of. Things she'll bring it up with 649 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: him and he'll Say i'm jealous and, lying which you 650 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: know that, again that's, like that's her decision to make 651 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: who she. Believes common Or two SAYS i would want 652 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 2: to know as the new girlfriend she's asking you to protect. 653 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: Herself wouldn't you have wanted a? Warning obie, SAYS i 654 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: definitely would have appreciated a heads, up especially since it's 655 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: still early enough in the relationship that she can leave 656 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: without much sun and. 657 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: Cost. 658 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 2: Update, hi, GUYS i just wanted to thank everyone for 659 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: the support and insight on this whole. THING i really appreciate. It, 660 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: ALSO i decided to give people, names So i'll call 661 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: my Ex nate and his new Girlfriend. Liz for a 662 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: crap load of, REASONS i decided to reply To liz's 663 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 2: MESSAGE i plagiarized from some of the comments on my last. 664 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: Post love you, guys SO i apologize for losing my 665 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 2: crap the other day and said that despite what he told, 666 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: her we broke up because he had lied to me 667 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: for months about in an affair that he he had been. 668 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: HAVING i wished her the, best AND i was pretty 669 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: nervous AFTER i sent, it SO i logged out Of, 670 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 2: facebook turned off the, notifications and went to Work that. 671 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: EVENING i got back on and saw That liz had 672 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: replied within an hour of it being. Sent she thanked 673 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: me for, answering and she'd reached out because she started 674 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: off weird feeling About nate after he swore he had 675 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: no idea what my outburst was. About she also asked 676 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 2: me why he talked so fondly of our relationship slash, 677 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: breakup if this was really what, happened and IF i 678 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: knew anything About. Sarah oh Who? Sarah Who's? 679 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 6: Sarah sarah was the Girl nate cheated on me, With 680 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 6: that's say That's. SARAH i still have a lot of 681 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 6: anger towards. HER i was always super, nice and she 682 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 6: Knew nate AND i had been together for almost two 683 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 6: years and THAT i was embarrassingly in love with them 684 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 6: when they started essentially. Dating it's kind of irrational and 685 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 6: misplaced BECAUSE i know she doesn't owe me, anything but, 686 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 6: yeah Apparently sarah is still very much in the. 687 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: Picture. Yikes liz says she And nate have had multiple 688 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: discussions about the appropriateness of their, relationship but she can't 689 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: ask about it anymore because he just shuts it. DOWN 690 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: i could just picture him doing his little relationship can't 691 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: exist without trust. Spiel after thinking it, OVER i said 692 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: THAT i couldn't explain why he told her THAT i 693 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: can only speak from my own, experience BUT i found 694 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: Both nate And sarah to be. Untrustworthy AND i also 695 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: told her that WHILE i hope for her sake that 696 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: the relationship is now platonic And i'm still questioning this 697 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: decision that she was the Girl nate cheated on me. 698 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: WITH i told her to trust her instincts and apologize 699 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: for being the bearer of worrying. News BUT i am 700 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: the bearer of good news because you guys can listen 701 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: to full episodes with stories just like this On, Spotify Apple, 702 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: podcasts or your favorite podcast. App just search Up, okay story, 703 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: time great News and there's a little bit left of this. 704 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: Story BUT i think that you did the right. Thing, 705 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: YES i think that you did the right thing, Correct 706 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: and Now liz is fully important and we know That 707 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: sarah's still in the, picture and that's no. 708 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 3: Bueno, yeah crazy to me that he's like the RELATIONSHIP i. 709 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: Built don't trust like you can you can trust me 710 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: cheat on you With. SARAH i. 711 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: Did he's a Little. 712 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: Lias he's a little cheeky, kya. 713 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: But there's a little bit. LEFT i was thinking of 714 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: waiting for her to reply so i'd have more for this, 715 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: update but it's been a couple of days AND i 716 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: don't really know what she'd have to say to. 717 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: Me. 718 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: Anyway i'm just super anxious and find myself thinking about 719 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: her a. Lot it's almost like going back in time 720 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: and telling little eighteen year Old ope That nate would 721 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: probably make the next few years of my life miserable 722 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 2: IF i stayed with. Him knowing, ME i would have been. 723 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: Heartbroken SO i just really hope That liz is. Okay 724 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: and comments say Common one, Says liz already had her 725 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: doubts about her In nate's, relationship or she wouldn't have 726 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: messaged you in the first. 727 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: Place, exactly you. 728 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: Did the right thing without coming across as petty or. 729 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: Jealous good for. You Hopefully liz is, okay but you 730 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: did the right. Thing in common or, two you may 731 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: not ever get closure From liz about what happened with Her, 732 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: nate but rest assured that you've done the right thing 733 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: by answering honestly and. Respectfully If liz does break up with, 734 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: HIM i wouldn't be surprised If nate blames the whole 735 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: thing on you being a crazy ex who tries to 736 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: sabotage his future relationships because you're still in love with. 737 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: Him have a game plan for if you run into 738 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: him in public, again especially if he's belligerent or threatens. 739 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: You you have done nothing wrong, here but being prepared never. 740 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: Hurts gearst to living life free from, cheating lying f. 741 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: Whistles but that is the end of that. 742 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: Story, hey It's, sam your og host. Here we're gonna 743 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: get back to the. Stories but here's three minutes of 744 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: ads from our. 745 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 5: Sponsors my wife asked me for an open marriage because 746 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 5: she can't leave her a fair. Partner that's not how it. 747 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 5: Works similar, thoughts WHAT hi everyone strap in for a? 748 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 5: DOOZY i could tell to give some much needed context 749 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 5: to the. SITUATION i twenty seven, male met my now, 750 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 5: wife twenty seven, female via a dating app in late 751 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 5: fift twenty. Fifteen we spoke for a month before meeting 752 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 5: in person for the first. Time WHERE i asked her 753 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 5: to be my. Girlfriend by the, way this from You 754 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 5: Dash Upstairs fox twenty eight fifty two and if you 755 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 5: want to submit your own, stories go to rokay storytime. 756 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 5: Subreddit so she said, yes and we were long distance 757 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 5: for three years before moving in. Together in twenty, EIGHTEEN 758 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 5: i moved away from my family and friends and we 759 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 5: found a house in the same town she was already living. 760 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 5: IN i proposed the following, year and then we got 761 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 5: married in twenty. Twenty things were fast after. That we 762 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 5: started trying for a baby became moving fast. Fast it 763 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 5: took some, time and the pregnancy was very rough for my, 764 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 5: wife eventually leading to a c. Section but our son 765 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 5: was born In october twenty twenty one and is now 766 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 5: nearly three years. 767 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: Old this is where things get. 768 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 5: Complicated leading up to our, wedding one of the bride'smaid 769 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 5: sisters had a boyfriend who came to the wedding as 770 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 5: their plus. One my wife ended up becoming friends with that, 771 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 5: boyfriend and a few months later after we got, married 772 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 5: they started getting closer and people began commenting on. It 773 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 5: not wanting to be an, overbearing jealous, HUSBAND. 774 00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: I brushed it. 775 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 5: Off people of different genders can be just, friends, right 776 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 5: some more contacts and WHAT i think drew them. Together 777 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 5: my wife AND i are both very, introverted though she 778 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 5: is slightly more. OUTGOING i prefer staying home rather than going, 779 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 5: out and in, HINDSIGHT i may not have put enough 780 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 5: effort to plan. 781 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: Dates outside of the. 782 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 5: House at the, TIME i thought we were both enjoyed 783 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 5: doing things at, home and now she just had a 784 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 5: friend to do outdoor activities. 785 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: With they grew closer over, time and we're best. 786 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 5: Friends during the time we were trying for a, baby 787 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 5: people kept, commenting BUT i brushed it, off trying to 788 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 5: be supportive of her having a close. Friend she had 789 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 5: struggled to make friends in the, past WHICH. 790 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: I could relate. 791 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: To so they clashed quite a bit and was often 792 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 5: in the shoulder she cried. On at one, point they 793 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 5: stopped being friends all, together and given how upset she, 794 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 5: was it almost seemed like a. Breakup they became friends, 795 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 5: again and one night while they were out, TOGETHER i 796 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 5: noticed she hadn't logged out Of facebook on her. 797 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: Computer that d, duh are they gonna? Look? Yes, STUPIDLY 798 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: i snooped on their. 799 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 5: MESSAGES i discovered that he was in love with, her oh, 800 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 5: nice and she had developed feelings for him, too, craps 801 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 5: but she wasn't acting on them because of. ME i 802 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 5: confronted her about. It she admitted he had confessed his 803 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 5: feelings before and she had turned him, down which led 804 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 5: to him stopping their. Friendship, okay so that was the 805 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 5: thing that ended the. Friendship but when they, reconnected they 806 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 5: agreed to be just friends again until she also developed 807 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 5: feelings for. 808 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: HIM i wanted to trust, her SO i let it. 809 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 3: Go By october. 810 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 5: Twenty twenty, one close To, halloween our son had been. 811 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 5: Born my workplace was going out for drinks after an 812 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 5: office quiz and we ended up meeting with my, wife 813 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 5: my sister in, law the best, friend and a few. 814 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 5: Others despite my usual disliked for, CLUBS i somehow ended 815 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 5: up in one that, night and with booze in my 816 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 5: system and whispers from friends and colleagues about how the 817 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 5: best friend was acting too close to my, wife my 818 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 5: anger started. Building it all came to a head when 819 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 5: my colleagues made an effort to separate my wife and 820 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 5: the best friend while trying to bring my wife and me. 821 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: Together that's. Bad this upset the best, friend and he 822 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: decided to. Leave my wife followed. Him, no, well someone 823 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: whispered to, me this isn't. Right you should go after. 824 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 3: Them thank you whoever said. That that was the final. 825 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 5: STRAW i went downstairs and saw them sitting on a 826 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 5: sofa embracing in a. Goodbye in my, wasted furious, state 827 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 5: that was too. MUCH i told the best friend it 828 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: was time to, leave and when he got, UP. 829 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: I old twelved him in the. 830 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 5: Face club staff quickly separated, us AND i, left suddenly very, 831 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 5: sober walking all the way. 832 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: Home this is really. 833 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 5: Bad so the next few days revealed even more about their. 834 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 5: Relationship my wife convinced him not to call the police on. Me, 835 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 5: however she was up in the air about leaving, me 836 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 5: saying the old twelving him made her question WHETHER i 837 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 5: was a safe person to be. Around mind, YOU i 838 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 5: had never the old twelve to anyone, before and hate, 839 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 5: confrontation as you'll see more of in this. Post she 840 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 5: admitted that she hadn't full on spicy, sleep but had 841 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 5: been intimate in other ways until became very heavily pregnant with. 842 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 3: Our Son Whoa. 843 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 5: Whoa she said she had been feeling guilty for a, 844 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 5: while and they had stopped once our son was. Born 845 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 5: she admitted she had been unfaithful and that our trust was. Broken, 846 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 5: STILL i wanted to stay together and rebuild our relationship 847 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 5: BECAUSE i loved her and wanted my son to grow 848 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 5: up in a whole. Family we talked it out and 849 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 5: agreed to stay. Together she promised to go back to 850 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 5: being just friends with the best. Friend why WOULD i feel, 851 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 5: LIKE ohp is just not putting any boundaries. Here, meanwhile 852 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 5: he was trying to convince her to leave me and 853 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 5: be with him, instead though that was hardly an. Option 854 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 5: he lived with his parents and had no, job so 855 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 5: he couldn't provide for. ANYONE a few days, later my, 856 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 5: wife the best, friend AND i sat down for a. 857 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 5: CONVERSATION whoa he gave her an, ultimatum him or? 858 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 4: Me. 859 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 5: What my wife is a notoriously bad at. Communication. Shocked 860 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 5: it's hard to get any kind of response from. Her 861 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 5: she tends to just sit, there expecting others to do 862 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 5: all the talking and figure things. Out but the best 863 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 5: friend wanted her to say it directly to the circumstances, 864 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 5: so oh my, god so. Bad he wanted to or 865 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 5: her say out loud that she was done with him. 866 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 5: Romantically so we sat in silence for a long. 867 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 3: TIME i would be, like, NO i needed to answer, 868 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 3: now or one get get out of. HERE i would 869 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: put my foot down. 870 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 5: Again so, eventually, yes she chose, me but only in. 871 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 5: Silence he demanded she say it out, loud and she finally. 872 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 5: DID i thought that was the end of. It the 873 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 5: best friend AND i shared a weird, huh. 874 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 3: What is this? Story? What why would you hug? Him? Why, 875 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: Dude i'm not sure. Why i'm not sure. Why we're 876 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 3: not sure. 877 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 5: Why maybe some sob conscious apology for how he had 878 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 5: to come into our lives and turn everything upside. Down 879 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 5: despite my wife saying she was done with him, romantically 880 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 5: the remained. 881 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 3: Friends no, no, no, no, no but not for. 882 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 5: Long she continued to feel guilty because she would occasionally 883 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 5: slip up and kiss. 884 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 3: Him this is what are you? Doing like an? 885 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 5: IDIOT i excuse these mistakes for the sake of keeping 886 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 5: our family. 887 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 3: TOGETHER i think you're bad at communicating my. 888 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 5: GUY a few months, later she brought up idea of 889 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 5: an open, relationship a way for her to have everything. 890 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 3: She Wanted god. 891 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 5: Without guilt or. CONSEQUENCE i am tired of, THIS i 892 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 5: could see she was. Struggling we were both exhausted from 893 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 5: taking care of a, baby and she had suffered from 894 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 5: severe post natal. Depression she had also struggled with depression 895 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 5: at the start of our relationship and BEFORE i wonder. 896 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 5: Why by the time we got engaged and, married she 897 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 5: had improved significantly and was off her. Medication but the, 898 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 5: pregnancy combined with this whole love, triangle had brought her 899 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 5: right back. Down, so being the IDIOT i, WAS i 900 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 5: agreed to an open relationship to make Her who's a 901 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 5: bigger a hole. Here it's not that he's an a, 902 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 5: Whole he's just an ahole to. 903 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: Yourself he just does it into your. 904 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 5: Relationship he doesn't know how to respect himself and that 905 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 5: makes me deeply. Sad, so being the IDIOT i, WAS 906 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 5: i agreed to an open relationship to make her. Happy 907 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 5: this open relationship lasted until Around april of this. Year 908 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 5: she was happy having her family life with husband and 909 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 5: child with, me and then her outgoing fun part of 910 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 5: life with the best. FRIEND i did not see another 911 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 5: woman during this AS i was committed to my, wife 912 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 5: even if she wasn't fully commit it to. Me my 913 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 5: main reason for sticking this out was mostly for the 914 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 5: sake of my. SON i wanted him to have a proper, 915 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 5: family AND i just wanted a simple family. 916 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 3: Life the other part was fear or. 917 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 5: Shame how do you not understand that IF i, left 918 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 5: it would all come out and everyone would. KNOW i 919 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 5: have a good relationship with my in laws and my 920 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 5: family is currently planning move down to where we are 921 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 5: because they want to spend more time with my. Son 922 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 5: IF i, leave it will ruin so many, relationships AND 923 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 5: i fear the blame will be on me for not 924 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 5: stopping it. Sooner SO i soldiered, on even THOUGH i 925 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 5: was miserable most of the. TIME i did it from 926 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 5: my son and my family so they might be, happy 927 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 5: and seeing them happy would help me forget or at 928 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 5: least block it. Out, so during this whole open, relationship 929 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 5: while our side was, fine we had family trips and, 930 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 5: holidays and my wife AND i were still able to 931 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 5: be intimate with each, other and the very rare times 932 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 5: that our child allowed us to be to wasted no 933 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 5: time having spicy sleep with the best. Friend they would 934 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 5: go out in the evening few times a, week and 935 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 5: sometimes away for weekends. 936 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 3: Together this is insane to. 937 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 5: Me he did not like hearing my name even being, 938 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 5: mentioned so when they were, Together i'm sure they pretended 939 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 5: LIKE i didn't. Exist they had even taken our son 940 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 5: for day trips to farms and soft play WHEN i was, 941 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 5: working and that was one of the few TIMES i 942 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 5: had the guts to say something and say that he 943 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 5: was my son and then the family stuff to remain 944 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 5: with the actual. Family myself hearing his name was quite the. 945 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 5: Opposite whenever they fought or had some kind of, disagreement shut. 946 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 5: UP i was the shoulder to cry on and the 947 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 5: empathetic listener as any suggestions fell on deaf. Ears WHENEVER 948 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 5: i felt close to caving and leaving my son would 949 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 5: flow into my mind and it would stop me every. 950 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 3: Time In, april this all came to a. 951 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,959 Speaker 5: Head she had said they'd been fighting more and, more 952 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 5: we're spending more time on his phone when he was with, 953 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 5: her and this result in her half heartedly breaking up 954 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 5: with him to try and rouse something out of, him 955 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 5: but he took her at her. 956 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 3: Word and broke up with. 957 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 5: Her she backpedaled and tried getting him, back but he 958 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 5: ended up going no contact with. Her she was inconsolable for, 959 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 5: weeks AND i was there as always to. 960 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 3: Pick up The he you're the best, friend SO. 961 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 5: I was always there to pick up the pieces while 962 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 5: she was physically ill and, cried AND i and her 963 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 5: parents looked after my. Son you'd attempted a few more 964 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 5: times to reach out to, him and each time this 965 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 5: relapsed her progress and getting over in. Him she had 966 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 5: even tried to go back to being just, friends but 967 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 5: either he couldn't do that or didn't want. To they 968 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 5: had met a few times with my son as some 969 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 5: kind of intermediary to force them To. 970 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 3: This is this is insane to. ME i am. Dumbfounded 971 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 3: this is one of the most dumbfounding Stories i've ever, 972 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 3: read so to not be intimate if such a feeling. 973 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 5: Arose but after that he said he couldn't be just, 974 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 5: friends and they finally could it off again and she 975 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 5: blocks him on. 976 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: EVERYTHING i finally felt some sense of. 977 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 5: Relief i'm sure like my efforts had been rewarded somehow, 978 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 5: then and by STAYING i now finally have my wife 979 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 5: back and we could all move on and my life 980 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 5: would finally be normal. Again how do you move on 981 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 5: from this and be, like, yeah that was greatly my 982 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 5: relationship is. 983 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 3: Wonderful my family's, Wonderful my life is. WONDERFUL i am again. 984 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 3: Dumbfounded now it is Almost. 985 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 5: September to take her mind off of, whom she has 986 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 5: gotten into writing spiritual journals and it started her own. Business, 987 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 5: wow that's actually good. 988 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 3: NEWS i don't know how to. 989 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 5: Feel she was in childcare before becoming a full stay 990 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 5: at home, mom but she's now using her QUALIFIC ca 991 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 5: for her business and has been doing very. 992 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 3: Well no, way what's your? 993 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 5: Business i've been very, supportive even helping with purchasing a, 994 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 5: domain setting up, emails and creating a. Website my issue 995 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 5: now is THAT i don't think she loves me the same. 996 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 5: Anymore the last time she and the best friend were 997 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 5: intimate was when she was very emotionally. Vulnerable from what she, 998 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 5: Said he took advantage of that and we had spicy 999 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 5: sleep before we then dumped. Her this contributed to her 1000 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 5: becoming physically. Ill at one. Point she wanted to be 1001 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 5: intimate with me, again so the last time she had 1002 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 5: spicy sleep wouldn't it be tied to that traumatic. Experience 1003 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 5: she took the time she, needed and eventually we were intimate. 1004 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 5: Again after a few more. Times she told me she 1005 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 5: didn't want to have spicy sleep. Anymore she cited one 1006 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 5: of her mom's friends and, examples SAYING x and why 1007 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 5: don't have spicy? Sleep it wasn't like we had the 1008 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 5: chance to be intimate very, often BUT i always try 1009 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 5: to initiate WHEN i thought the time was. 1010 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: Right, however no became the answer going. 1011 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 5: FORWARD i was told that spicy sleep isn't the whole, 1012 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 5: relationship AND i understood, that BUT i also communicated that 1013 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 5: intimacy is part of HOW i show. Love since, then 1014 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 5: we hadn't had spicy sleep AND i can't get anything 1015 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 5: more from her than cuddling and a quick peck on the. 1016 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 5: Lips SO i started feeling insecure because of this and 1017 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 5: tried to discuss my feelings with. HER i told HER 1018 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 5: i felt unhappy and unsure about where we stood in 1019 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 5: the relationship. Now she insisted that things were fine and 1020 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 5: that we were staying together for our. 1021 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 3: Son this is insane to. 1022 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 5: ME i told her it was more than that for 1023 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 5: me BECAUSE i still loved her the. Same she then 1024 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 5: asked IF i wanted to split, up AND i asked 1025 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 5: her if she loved. Me she said she, did but 1026 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 5: as usual my heart wasn't in, it AND i couldn't 1027 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 5: bring myself to commit to the harder decision of, leaving 1028 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 5: SO i. STAYED i fear she's staying because it's the easy, 1029 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 5: option or because she has no other choice since her 1030 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 5: other option left. Her maybe she's still hoping that the 1031 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 5: best friend will, return and if he, does she will leave. 1032 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 5: ME i asked her if she would leave me for 1033 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 5: him if he came, back and she said she didn't. 1034 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 5: Know it would depend on the situation of the. TIME 1035 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 5: i made my stance. Clear if he came back in any, 1036 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 5: FORM i was done AND i would just. 1037 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 3: Leave NOW i feel just as stuck or trapped AS 1038 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 3: i did during the open. 1039 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 5: Relationship i'm a good, husband AND i stuck with her 1040 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 5: through her difficult, pregnancy attended all the scans and, appointments 1041 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 5: and have been actively involved in raising our. SUN i 1042 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 5: Work monday To, friday BUT i take over in the 1043 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 5: evenings before. BEDTIME i cook most of the, time and 1044 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 5: when she does, cook it's usually just freeze her meal 1045 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 5: WHILE i make meals from scratch with fresh. 1046 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 3: Ingredients sorry you say you were a good, Husband you're 1047 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 3: a good. 1048 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 5: Friend her main, complaint which initially drove her to the 1049 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 5: best friend was that we never went on dates outside the. House, 1050 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 5: however she never expressed this to, me so how WOULD 1051 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 5: i have. Known so instead she went and had an, 1052 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 5: affair creating this whole messy love. Triangle i've been actively 1053 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 5: trying to put more effort into. Dates, again not the. 1054 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 5: Problem there's a lot going, on so we don't always 1055 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 5: have time for spontaneous date nights since we need to organize. 1056 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 5: CHILDCARE i know that wasn't the case before we had a, 1057 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 5: child but, again she never communicated that issue back. Then 1058 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 5: we're both, introverted SO i thought we were perfectly. Happy 1059 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 5: staying IN covid lockdowns probably didn't, help BUT i attempted 1060 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 5: to plan dates once things. Reopened NOW i feel like 1061 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 5: ANYTHING i do is just going to be compared to 1062 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 5: what she and the best friend did, together Like i'm 1063 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 5: only doing it because of. Them even after, EVERYTHING i 1064 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,439 Speaker 5: still love my, wife BUT i don't know if it's 1065 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 5: the same in the same way. Anymore i'm actively trying 1066 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 5: to put an, effort BUT i don't think it's being. 1067 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 5: Reciprocated WHENEVER i try to express, this we don't get. 1068 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 5: Anywhere we just keep going in. Circles she has never 1069 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 5: wanted to be the one to make, decisions and this 1070 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 5: whole situation has played out because she led. It it 1071 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 5: took the best friend making the decision himself for the 1072 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 5: relationship to. End does it have to be me who 1073 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 5: makes the decision? 1074 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 3: Here IF i? 1075 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 5: Leave where do either of us? Go where does my son? 1076 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 5: Go how much more will will change or be ruined 1077 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 5: because of my? Choice i've had no one to turn 1078 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 5: to WHEN i tossed this around in my mind for, 1079 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 5: years wondering why the responsibility falls on. Me SO i 1080 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 5: allowed the open relationship to happen to avoid consequences and 1081 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 5: keep everyone but myself. Happy And i'm still doing it. 1082 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 5: Now CAN i ever truly be happy with my family? 1083 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 5: Again IF i continue putting in the? Effort will my 1084 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 5: wife see me and love me as she used? To 1085 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 5: or she's still too hung up on the best, friend 1086 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 5: just waiting for him to come back so she could 1087 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 5: leave me or force me to. Leave my priority is my. 1088 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 5: SON i want what's for, him And i've been in 1089 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 5: content and misery because it allows me to see him 1090 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 5: as much AS i. Do IF i, LEAVE i might 1091 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 5: not get to see him as. Often right, NOW i 1092 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,919 Speaker 5: only see him after work and on. WEEKENDS i love 1093 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 5: my wife AND i want her to be. Happy but 1094 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 5: HAVE i sacrificed my own feelings for others too? 1095 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 3: Much? Yes is this the one TIME i need to 1096 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 3: put myself first and? Leave? 1097 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 5: Yes if you made this, far thank. YOU i hope 1098 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 5: it makes. Sense i'm very stuck and lost and many 1099 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 5: other things and need some. Help AND i put off 1100 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,760 Speaker 5: asking for it for so, long either to save myself 1101 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 5: from a TRUTH i don't want to, hear to spare 1102 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 5: my family and friends from all of. 1103 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 3: This now there's an, Update just get to. 1104 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 5: It it seems like we've, expressed we've expressed too many 1105 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 5: emotions and feelings that we it's gonna be the same. 1106 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 5: THING i don't Think i've been so grilled in my, 1107 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 5: life but boy DID i need? 1108 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 4: It? 1109 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Wow, OKAY i THINK i needed to be beaten 1110 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 5: down from a place outside of my own head for 1111 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 5: it to really get. Through without any excuses or justifications 1112 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 5: being made up in my. 1113 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 3: Mind this is very. 1114 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 5: Real, unfortunately it is very, sad, empathetic AND i am 1115 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 5: very broken and need. Fixing everyone who has said get 1116 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 5: a paternity, test he is. 1117 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 3: Mine he couldn't look more like me if he. 1118 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 5: Tried but the soon to be ex wife, whoa and 1119 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 5: the other one didn't have spicy sleep until he was 1120 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 5: already born that you know. Of there's a history of 1121 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,439 Speaker 5: them lying new they were court courteous enough to wait 1122 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 5: for mister dormat to lay down and open the. Relationship 1123 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,959 Speaker 5: it seems like he's become self. 1124 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 3: Aware he took the internet to get it over his. 1125 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 5: Head of course he could be, lying BUT i, think 1126 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 5: given she wants to be with him more than, me 1127 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 5: the child being his would be a good way. 1128 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 3: Out thank you for the truth and the harsh. 1129 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 5: Squords if anyone needs a new, Doormat i'm clearly apprised to. 1130 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 5: BELIEVE i apologize for the length of the original. POST 1131 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 5: i had so much stored and wanted to air it. 1132 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 5: Out but for those who read, it read, halfway or 1133 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 5: didn't read it at, all but still give the clear 1134 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 5: advice of, leave thank. YOU i do need therapy AND 1135 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 5: i need to be alone for a while BEFORE i 1136 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 5: could love. Again and it is coming up to nine 1137 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 5: years and that's a long. Time and you could say 1138 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 5: a lot of the time wasted with false hope that 1139 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 5: things would. 1140 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 3: Improve BUT i see now it's. 1141 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 5: Over the one good thing to come of it is my, 1142 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 5: son AND i see now staying will do him no 1143 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 5: good in the long. Term i'd finished, work picked up 1144 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 5: my son from in laws after having dinner as she 1145 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 5: was out for the day of their. SIBLING i got 1146 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 5: him ready for bed and read him stories and he 1147 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 5: went to. 1148 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 3: SLEEP i could. 1149 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 5: NOT i kept reopening the original, post looking through the, 1150 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 5: comments all unanimously saying to. Leave, recently as thirty minutes, 1151 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 5: ago she came home AND i had a brief conversation with. 1152 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 3: HER i said we should split, up and she. Agreed. 1153 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 5: SHOCKING i said THAT i hadn't felt respected in a long, 1154 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 5: time and this felt more like a friendship or roommates 1155 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 5: than it was a marriage. Anymore, yes it felt LIKE 1156 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 5: i was a safe option to hold on, to not 1157 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 5: out of, love but for safety and. 1158 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 3: Ease, Yes but if you want, safety ease and. Love, 1159 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 3: oh you can listen to full episodes with stories just like. 1160 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 5: This just go To, Spotify Apple, podcasts or your favorite 1161 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 5: podcast app and. Search, okay story time. Easy so there's 1162 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 5: another relevant. Update let's go into. 1163 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 3: It let's go to. 1164 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 5: IT i thought about all the comments about the effects 1165 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 5: that continuation would have on my son and expressed as 1166 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 5: Much i'd felt walked over and, disrespecting AND i couldn't 1167 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 5: raise my son that. WAY i could can't be the 1168 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 5: father he needs IF i am not the MAN i 1169 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 5: should be left and started to get tiary before she, 1170 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 5: left WHICH i didn't. Expect that she had rarely shown 1171 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 5: much of a care the last TIME i half attempted 1172 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 5: to convey my feelings of a. Relationship so maybe she 1173 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 5: does care more THAN i, thought but not enough to 1174 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,399 Speaker 5: undo everything that's. 1175 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 3: Happened she has gone to sleep at her. 1176 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 5: PARENTS i am now alone in my house with my. 1177 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 5: Son now everything will change is what it will be 1178 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 5: for the, better however long it. Takes i'm gonna try 1179 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 5: and get some. 1180 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 3: Sleep here's johni og. Host. 1181 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 1: Here we're gonna get back to the, stories but here's 1182 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 1: a quick three minute break OF asthm form more. 1183 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 7: SPONSORS i finally. Left my husband is a fair. Partner 1184 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 7: exposed to, HIM i twenty six female have been with 1185 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 7: my husband twenty. Nine mel let's call Him kyle for seven, 1186 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 7: years Oh mary for. 1187 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 3: Four it's a long. 1188 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 7: One our relationship began as something too good to be. 1189 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,479 Speaker 7: True he was. Amazing it made my life so much. 1190 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 7: Brighter we were truly best friends from the. Start by the, 1191 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 7: way this comes From Casey June, july and if you 1192 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 7: want to spit your own, stories go to our slash 1193 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 7: showcase story Time. Subred so we moved in together after 1194 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 7: only three weeks of knowing each, other and we're in. 1195 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:00,919 Speaker 3: Separate you move. 1196 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 7: Fast we were the couple people would, SAY i just 1197 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 7: want something like you And kyle YouTube were so perfect 1198 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 7: for each. 1199 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 8: Other sorry, sorry three Weeks, wow three weeks on that 1200 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 8: AND i agreed we weren't each other's typical, time and 1201 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 8: it felt like the universe brought us. TOGETHER a year 1202 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 8: and a half, later he planned an elaborate proposal and 1203 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 8: we got engaged a year and a half. Later wow 1204 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 8: and just a year and a. 1205 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 3: Half, oh it was. 1206 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 7: MAGICAL i couldn't have planned anything more special and. Romantic 1207 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 7: we set our wedding for a year and a half. 1208 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 7: Later after a, year we went on our bachelor slash 1209 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 7: bachelorette trips and we had our first fight after being 1210 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,760 Speaker 7: together for two and a half. Years to, me that's 1211 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 7: a red. Flag since my bachelorette party was a month before. 1212 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 7: His he set some ground rules call every night when 1213 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 7: you get back to the, house and no hanging out 1214 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 7: at houses with men for me or women for. Him 1215 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 7: my bachelorette party went. Perfectly notions just a weekend at 1216 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 7: the beach with my, girls skipped to his bachelor, party 1217 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 7: and he disappears for six, hours no, calls no, texts 1218 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 7: and THEN i see one of his friend's social media 1219 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 7: posts that they were hanging out with a group of. 1220 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 7: Girls in the, Video kyle is standing really close to 1221 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 7: a girl in a red. Bikini they were talking and 1222 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 7: she is holding his. 1223 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 3: Phone oh in her. Hands. 1224 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 7: OH i tried calling and texting him and his friends 1225 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 7: for a few hours without. 1226 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 5: Response he said the ground rules included himself and then 1227 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 5: was the one who broke. 1228 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 7: Them WHEN i finally got in contact with, him he 1229 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 7: said his phone was inside charging and that he was 1230 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 7: wasted and didn't think hanging out with the girls would 1231 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 7: be an. Issue, yeah he he was just, wasted. 1232 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 3: Dude oh, okay my, Bet i'm not. 1233 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 7: STUPID i know he most likely cheated on, me BUT 1234 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 7: i chose to move. 1235 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 3: Forward with the was it cheating if you're? Wasted? 1236 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 7: Wow, yeah which was now only three months, away partly 1237 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,320 Speaker 7: BECAUSE i loved him and knew i'd forgive him, eventually 1238 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,280 Speaker 7: and partly because my parents had already spent a lot 1239 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 7: of money on our. Wedding oh, okay our wedding was, 1240 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 7: beautiful a perfect. Day shortly after THE vid hit and 1241 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 7: we were stuck at, home unable to live our normal 1242 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 7: life of going and. Traveling nine months into, MARRIAGE i 1243 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 7: found out that he had created a fake social media. 1244 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 7: ACCOUNT i say fake because it wasn't his main, profile 1245 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 7: but he used his real. 1246 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 3: Name. 1247 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 7: Stupid he was following several, women including HIS. AX i 1248 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 7: made him pack his things and move out of our. 1249 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 3: House that's the thing that's your. 1250 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,760 Speaker 5: Line not even you thinking he, cheated just him following 1251 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 5: his ax on a Fake instagram is your no to the. 1252 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 7: Relationship after being separated for three, WEEKS i found no 1253 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 7: evidence that he was actually contacting any of these. Women 1254 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 7: he promised he'd never do something like that, again AND 1255 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 7: i forgave. Him he moved back, in encouraged by my. 1256 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 7: Family our relationship had never been. Better it felt, stronger 1257 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 7: and we were more. Connected we bought our first house 1258 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 7: together after a year and a half, later and four 1259 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 7: months after moving, IN i found OUT i was. Pregnant 1260 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 7: this is where everything began to. Crumble. Now we did 1261 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 7: talk about me going off birth control and decided it 1262 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 7: was the right time to start trying for a. Baby 1263 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 7: but WHEN i told HIM i was, pregnant he didn't 1264 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 7: have the REACTION i thought he. Would, huh big. REASON 1265 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 7: i fell in love with this man BECAUSE i knew 1266 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 7: he'd be a great. Father he was amazing with other 1267 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 7: kids and always talked about wanting a family of his. 1268 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 7: Own he's a big kid at. Heart, dude this scares 1269 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 7: me BECAUSE i think of myself this. Way the way 1270 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,879 Speaker 7: she just described to her, Partner i'm, like, dude that's. 1271 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,439 Speaker 7: Me and Now i'm, like, oh he's about to do something. 1272 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 3: Horrible, well as long as you're not, HORRIBLE i think you're, 1273 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 3: unclear all. 1274 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,399 Speaker 7: Right when it came to my, pregnancy he didn't want 1275 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 7: to talk about anything baby. Related he seemed to pretend 1276 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 7: the baby didn't. Exist he started going out more without 1277 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 7: me and planning more guy. TRIPS i didn't. Mind i'm 1278 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 7: more of a homebody and loved being at home nesting 1279 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 7: and preparing for the baby's. ARRIVAL i thought he was 1280 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 7: feeling overwhelmed by the life change and just needed time 1281 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 7: to let his hair. Down i'm not a jealous. PERSON 1282 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 7: i was very confident he wouldn't cheat on me because 1283 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 7: he's my best. 1284 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 3: Friend but you already assumed he cheated on. You but 1285 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 3: she found no, evidence but she still assumed. It but 1286 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,280 Speaker 3: now she's LIKE i would never assume, that. 1287 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 7: And his friends would often talk about how lucky he 1288 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 7: was to have me as his. PARTNER i also Think 1289 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 7: i'm quite beautiful, brack but he'd. Be but he began 1290 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 7: treating me more like a. Roommate. 1291 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 3: Oh we had a few. 1292 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 7: Small arguments in the past about him taking advantage of 1293 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 7: me cooking and cleaning for him without showing. Appreciation now 1294 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 7: he stopped taking me on dates and didn't ask IF 1295 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 7: i wanted to go with him and his friends when 1296 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 7: they hung. Out this was shocking because we had been 1297 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 7: inseparable for the last five. Years three weeks, AGO i 1298 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 7: found out he cheated on me while on one of 1299 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 7: his boy trips last. 1300 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 3: Summer, oh do you think that's the first time he. 1301 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 7: Met a girl at a, bar bought her, drinks danced with, 1302 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 7: her and made. Out they even took a picture. Together 1303 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 7: they exchanged, numbers and the next, day when she found 1304 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 7: out he was, married he blocked her on all of 1305 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 7: his social media's and her phone. Number this is HOW 1306 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 7: i found. Her two weeks BEFORE i discovered, THIS i 1307 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 7: had found his anonymous online profile and saw that he 1308 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 7: had been sending explicit. PHOTOS i confronted him and he, 1309 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 7: apologized saying he was. 1310 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 3: DEPRESSED i, heard that's actually what cures. Depression. 1311 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 7: Really, YEAH i had already planned to leave and move 1312 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 7: in with my mom for a, while BUT i couldn't 1313 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 7: shake the field OR i was missing something like you. 1314 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 7: Said SO i checked his blocked account on social. MEDIA 1315 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 7: i thought it was. Strange there was a GIRL i 1316 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 7: didn't know on the, list SO i messaged. Her she spilled, 1317 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 7: everything even telling me that his friends had been lying for, 1318 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 7: him claiming he was. 1319 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 3: Single the friends are in on, it friends are in on. 1320 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 3: It you guys are just perfect. TOGETHER i love you guys. 1321 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 3: Together blah blah blah blah. Blah, Anyways yeah he's, single 1322 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 3: like he was a great. Guy oh, snakes. 1323 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 7: YEP i confronted, him and of course he said she was. 1324 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 7: LYING i left. Him, mom she's, lying so it's. 1325 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 3: Fine yeah, yeah, yeah, YEAH i was. Wasted she was. 1326 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 3: LYING i was. Depressed, yeah these all check? Out yeah, yeah, no. 1327 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 7: Excuses these are non, Excuses these are just real. Reason since, 1328 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 7: Then i've found out. 1329 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 3: More oh, no. 1330 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 7: Not as, danging but still. BEHAVIOR i wouldn't want my 1331 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 7: husband engaging in behind my. BACK i feel sick and 1332 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 7: devastated that he could do this to me and our. 1333 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 7: CHILD i did MENTION i was home alone for eight 1334 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 7: days with our five month old baby while he was 1335 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 7: on a trip making out with another. GIRL i feel 1336 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 7: LIKE i sacrificed so much of my happiness for this, 1337 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 7: man trying to make his life as happy as, possible 1338 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 7: and he gave it all up for. What LIKE i, 1339 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 7: Said i'm not. STUPID i know there are probably more 1340 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 7: instances of him, cheating BUT i don't want to. Know 1341 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 7: i'm already, done and we got a freaking. 1342 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 5: Update well imagine the update is just maybe finding out 1343 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 5: more crap Than. 1344 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 7: He's not sure if anyone will. Care BUT i found 1345 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 7: myself thinking about this post a lot and wanted to 1346 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 7: give an update posted here nine months ago about me 1347 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 7: leaving my. Husband the few first months were. HARD i 1348 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,479 Speaker 7: tried to maintain a friendship with him for the sake 1349 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 7: of our, son but just found myself getting hurt over 1350 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 7: and over. Again SO i d insticed, myself and after a, 1351 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 7: WHILE i decided to get on a dating, app mostly 1352 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 7: to keep my mind off of. Him, INTERESTING i met 1353 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 7: someone and we connected. Instantly i'll call Him. Matt we 1354 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 7: texted and talked for a week before meeting in. PERSON 1355 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 7: i didn't think it would be. SERIOUS i just wanted 1356 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 7: to get out of the house and have some. Fun turns, 1357 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 7: out he's an amazing. Man, okay s GOT i. MET 1358 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 7: i didn't even know people like him. 1359 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 2: Existed. 1360 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 7: Aw he's sweet and, thoughtful makes me laugh UNTIL i can't. 1361 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 7: Breathe he's, understanding, supportive and actually listens to me WHEN i. 1362 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 7: Talk he's a parent, too and he loves kids more than. 1363 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 7: ANYTHING i have been Dating matt for six, months AND 1364 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 7: i don't Think i've ever been this happy in my. 1365 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 7: LIFE i look back at my marriage With kyle in. 1366 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 7: Disbelief how DID i not notice how terrible he was 1367 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 7: for so. Long matt brings me flowers and surprises me 1368 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 7: with date nights and little, gifts just to show he 1369 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 7: was thinking about me when we aren't, together despite living 1370 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 7: an hour. Away he brings food to me and my 1371 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 7: son when we are. Sick If i'm having a, day 1372 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 7: he lets me talk his ear off and drops off 1373 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 7: my favorite sweets at my. House matten's this amazing cook 1374 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 7: and we trade off nights in the kitchen when it's 1375 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 7: my turn to. Cook he spends quality time with. Kids 1376 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 7: the laughter in the house is almost. Constant this is 1377 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 7: so far off from what my life was With. Kyle 1378 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 7: my ex only sees our son about four days a 1379 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 7: month and is constantly finding excuses to leave him with 1380 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 7: me or drop him off with his grandparents for the. 1381 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 7: Weekend being a man who loves his kids and mine 1382 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 7: has really opened my eyes to what kind of a 1383 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 7: Father kyle. Is matt AND i don't live, together he 1384 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 7: spends a lot of time at my house because my 1385 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 7: home is, bigger it accommodates all of us better than his, 1386 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 7: house AND i have my son almost every day despite 1387 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 7: not living with. Me he helps, clean does, laundry helps 1388 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 7: fix things around the. House he always comments THAT i 1389 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 7: don't let him do, enough but he's more for me 1390 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 7: than anyone has been in my. Life he picks me 1391 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 7: up and takes on so so much that he doesn't have, 1392 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 7: to but he does it with a smile on his. 1393 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 7: Face he never lets a day pass without telling me how. 1394 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 7: Much he loves me and appreciates, me and we would 1395 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 7: love and appreciate you if you go to your favorite 1396 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 7: podcast platform and search up What alex search? Up, okay 1397 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 7: story time and what platforms could they go? 1398 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 4: To? 1399 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 3: Apple spotify your favorite podcast? Platform and how many stories 1400 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 3: like this do we? Have like a crap ton. 1401 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 7: EXACTLY i have learned from my past and won't be 1402 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 7: moving in with anyone anytime. 1403 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 5: Soon, Okay, okay she's learning right. Learning, okay we can trust. 1404 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 3: Her a little. 1405 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 7: MORE i was fooled, once but that won't happen. Again 1406 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 7: Neither matt OR i want any more. Kids we are 1407 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 7: so happy with the way our life is. Now no, 1408 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 7: pressure just living our lives happily alongside each other with our. Kids, 1409 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 7: okay no, pressure no. 1410 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 3: Pressure we're looking. 1411 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 7: Good to everyone out there who hopes your partner will 1412 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 7: change or grow, up they won't and most likely never 1413 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 7: will find someone who makes you hap because they want, 1414 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 7: to not because you're begging Into there were good people out, 1415 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 7: there and that is the. 1416 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 4: End