1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Welcome to the Block Party addition, 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: as we go in depth with Bengals offensive line coach 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Jim Turner. If you have a question about the old line, 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: we have it covered, from the return of Jonah Williams 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: to the addition of Xavier sua Philo to the status 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: of Billy Price. We'll spend nearly forty minutes with the 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: former Marine talking about the guys up front. 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When 26 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: I've asked you to submit questions for this podcast over 27 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: the past few months, the number one topic tends to 28 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: be the offensive line. Well, today we're going to take 29 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: a comprehensive look at that position group and I brought 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: in one of the Bengals all time best o lineman 31 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: to lead the discussion. We are excited to have offensive 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: line coach Jim Turner on the Bengals Boot podcast this week, 33 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: and rather than having me ask the questions, I thought 34 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: it would be fun and informative to leave those duties 35 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: to an expert on offensive line play. My broadcast partner 36 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: Dave lapoman I might chime in at some point, we'll see, 37 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: but lab for now, the floor is yours. Appreciate it, Dan, 38 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: And that's high praise. Expert. I don't know about that. 39 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm no expert offensive line play, but we're talking to one, 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Jim Turner, Bengals offensive line coach, And 41 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, coach. Really appreciate it. Fired up 42 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: to be here, man, Thanks for having me our pleasure. 43 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: I guess the first thing is looking back to last season, 44 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: one of the I think one of the best coaching 45 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: jobs or coaching moves was the how you adapted and 46 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: adjusted your running game halfway through the season. I know, 47 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: had that game over in Europe and on the trip 48 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: over there, you kind of Zach Turner said that he 49 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: gave Zach Taylor said, he gave you, gives you a 50 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: lot of credit for resurrecting a different approach to the 51 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: running game. How did that evolve? What? What was what 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: was in your mind when you when you went about 53 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: that coach. Yeah, I mean he's just doing a great 54 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: job deflecting. It was his decision to make the move. 55 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: And uh, and that's what we did. Um. You know, 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the line coach, so I'm responsible for 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: designing the run game. UM. So initially we used his 58 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: run game from the Rams, and you know, he was 59 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: trying to implement that same system, which is an excellent system. 60 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: And so as we did. You know, I mean, all 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: you gotta do is watch us at the beginning of 62 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: the season. You can see that we struggle, and then 63 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: with that struggle comes to the losses and then the 64 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: confidence of the team and so on, and so you 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: just get to a point where you just say, hey, 66 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: this is not working okay, and and that being the case, 67 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, got to make a change. So we just 68 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: sat down myself and him and Brian and and we 69 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: just said, hey, we've got to We've got to switch 70 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: it up. And so we just started to do more 71 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: things where the line was going downhill, and we started 72 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: to do a little bit more man stuff, a little 73 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: bit more of the fold scheme, and and then Joe 74 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: started really beginning to feel that and we started to 75 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: be able to run the ball better. So it's like anything, 76 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, if you're shooting the basketball a 77 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: certain way and it's not going in the hole, and 78 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: you need to change the way you're shooting the basketball. 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: So it's real simple if you look at it from 80 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: that standpoint, And so we just changed a couple of 81 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: things in there, Like I just said, we just changed 82 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: the schemes a little bit, a little bit more man 83 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: to fit our guys, a little bit more fold scheme, 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: of course, staying with the zone, but but just switching 85 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: it up a little bit and trying to find if 86 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: we actually ran power pretty well at the end of 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: the year as well. So we got the fold to 88 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: get the ball outside rand power to get the ball 89 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: inside a little bit, and then we continued with our 90 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: zone stuff and uh, and just continue to mature that 91 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: scheme with our with our players. You finish sixth in 92 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: the NFL and rushing in the second half of the season, 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the dynamic improvement and Joe Burrow's numbers are 94 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: crazy off play action passing, I mean it's it's it 95 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: completes about three out of every four passes and it's 96 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratios off the charts with that, like him 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: at quarterback, do you envision the running game kind of 98 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: picking up where it left off last year? Finishing is 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: as highly as you did in the second half of 100 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: the season. You know, we need to build on this. 101 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, we're gonna have a lot of the 102 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: same players inside. You know, Bobby how will still be here. 103 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: Of course, Trey Hopkins will be there, Mike Jordan will 104 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: be there. You know. Now You've got uh, you got 105 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: Alex Redmi coming back. You got Xavier super Felow coming 106 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: in there as part of that guard mix um, and 107 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: then you got Jonah coming back at tackle. Okay, So 108 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: Joan is really the only new player because exam if 109 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: you played, everybody played last year except the Jonah, He's 110 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: really the only new player. But I look at him 111 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: like he's a first round draft pick that got a 112 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: chance to go through mini camp for a year and 113 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: a half, you know, so he obviously knows what's going on. 114 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: He's a brilliant kid. So having Joe fit in with 115 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: a group of experienced guys that we have, you know, 116 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: even considering Mike to at least Mike Jordan have at 117 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: least a year under his belt, not to that's the 118 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: most experience, but he does have a decent amount of 119 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: starts under his belt, and I feel great about him. 120 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: The Joe's ability to move his feet in the pocket, 121 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: I think is really what will what will make the 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 1: change on third down on third and five, on third 123 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: and four, on third and six. You know you can't. 124 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: You're not going to convert every one of those through 125 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: the year. At some point a quarterback has to take 126 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: off and run, and he can do that asleep, hey 127 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: be just his mobility in the pocket. I mean, you 128 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: know lat from playing old line, you know it's about 129 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: their statistics mean a lot to them. You know, they 130 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: don't get the credit that everybody else gets for the success. 131 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: But at the same time, inside their own head until 132 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: their peers, their amount of pressures, their amount of sacks, 133 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: that means a lot to them. And when a quarterback 134 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: gives up a cheap sack, you know, or the scheme 135 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: creates a sack, it really bothers those guys. My point 136 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: is that Joe Burrow, if you watch his games at 137 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: LSU last year, he really cleans up a lot of 138 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: the little dirty stuff in there. You know, a guy 139 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: makes a mistake, I mean you know, I mean, you 140 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: play seventy plays in a game as alignment, you're gonna 141 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: make a couple of mistakes, you know. So so if 142 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: each one of them makes two mistakes, right, that's ten plays, 143 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: you know. So if a quarterback can cover up and 144 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna make more than two mistakes piece, Right, they're 145 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: gonna do something wrong at some point, a technique whatever. 146 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: And when you have a guy that can just make 147 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: you right a lot of the time, then it really 148 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: it merely makes a difference in their confidence. Their confidence 149 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: is an individual, the confidences as a unit and so on. 150 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: There's no doubt the offensive line play. I mean, you 151 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: live vicariously through the success of the skill guys and 152 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: the stats and your quarterback. You know, throw us for 153 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: thirty five hundred yards and thirty tight down only five interceptions. 154 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: You feel good as an offensive line. So that's a 155 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: big deal. I mean that that mindset. You don't want 156 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: to be the guy. You don't want to be the 157 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: guy that was the weak link that caused problems to 158 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: your offense. That's that's the whole, uh, the whole core 159 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: of being an offensive lineman. Right, yeah, and that's the 160 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: challenge of last year. Like I think what we all 161 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: went through last year was something that not everybody goes through. 162 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: You you know, you go through once in your career, 163 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: twice in your career at tops. So it was a 164 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: crash course in just that the mentality of a team 165 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: and how it can be adjusted and how it can 166 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: be affected by every little piece that happens in that 167 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: football game and in that football season. And so you 168 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: know last year when when you're at O and Tan, 169 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard, it's hard, and you know, so 170 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to that whole mentality, just having him 171 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: and they're like when we handed the ball to Joe 172 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: last year, like Joe Mixon really with the combination of 173 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: the rest of our offense really changed our mentality going 174 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: into the second half of the season. And you could 175 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: see that in London when we were playing the Rams. 176 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: We started to run the ball against a good defense 177 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: and we popped a couple of runs early in that game, 178 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: and you could just see the momentum of that game. 179 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: We had a shot to win that game and we 180 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: didn't get beat up by that team. And that was 181 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the first game that we really started to pound the 182 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: ball a little bit and we had a little bit 183 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: of balance on offense. And so Joe Mitchen really helped 184 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: with that confidence, you know. So, um, that's all a 185 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: big part of it. And uh and I'm looking forward 186 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: to seeing just how the joves fit together back there 187 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: in the backfield with our offensive line. When you evaluate 188 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: offensive Lineman. When you when you're looking at a veteran, 189 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: veteran free agent or a college prospect that you're considering 190 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: drafting or signing as a college free agent, what do 191 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: you look for? What are the trades? What are the 192 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: attributes that Jim Turner has to see in a potential prospect. 193 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: You have to have the talent first. We can all 194 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: say character and all of that, which is true, but 195 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: if you don't have the talent, then forget it. Right, So, uh, 196 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean I can I can work twenty four hours 197 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: a day, seven days a week. I'm dunking of basketball 198 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: and guess what, It's not gonna happen, right, Okay, I'm 199 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: not playing for the Celtics anytime soon. Right, So that's 200 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: just the way. So the first thing is talent, right, 201 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: So I look at the talent of the player. I 202 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: look at the body type of the player, the length 203 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: of the player. Like a great example of somebody that 204 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm part of the group that brought in Mike Jordans, 205 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Like Mike Jordan's a great example. He's got length, he's 206 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: got size, he's got power, right, he's got the talent, 207 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: he's got the like the foot speed. You watch him 208 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: run out on a screen. We watch them the other 209 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: day running out on the screen against the Browns late 210 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: in the season. I mean, it's just freakish, right, They're freaks, right. 211 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: They're big, strong guys that can run. Right. There's lots 212 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: of big, strong guys out there, but these guys can 213 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: move that body. And that's the difference, right. So I 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: look for that, that athletic ability, that foot speed. But 215 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: the big thing, like I'll use Mike again, the big 216 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: thing for me is after you find those attributes. So 217 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: every so now you just pull every lineman in the NFL. 218 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: They all have those attributes. They can all do those things. Now, 219 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: what separates them in my mind is their toughness. They're 220 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: want to hate being around anybody that doesn't want to 221 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, doesn't want to win the Championship, 222 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: doesn't want to win every game. It just can't live 223 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: with that human being on your field. If you have 224 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: one of them on the field up front, you got 225 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: a problem. And and we had that problem, and so 226 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: that has to be fixed. And obviously with Jonah Williams, 227 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: with Mike, Jordan, Trey Hopkins, Alex Redman, Bobby Hard, Xaviers 228 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: Sua Filo. I mean, you got some guys in here. 229 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna make a difference. Freddie Johnson. I really feel 230 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: good about the unit that way. I feel like these 231 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: guys match the attribute that you're talking about. I feel 232 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: like they have the skills. I feel like they have 233 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: the toughness, you know. Like you watch Mike late in 234 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: the season last year and we scored a touchdown against 235 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the Browns in the last game of the year, and 236 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: he looked like a fifteen year old kid, you know, 237 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: did just you know that clip I'm talking about when 238 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: he he jumps up in the air with both feed 239 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: up in the air, you know, so he and he 240 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: just fired up. And so that emotion to me is everything. Right, 241 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: A guy just loves playing the game. Now, I'm not 242 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: saying that I like cheer leaders. I don't like cheer leaders, right, 243 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: I like it when guys are acquired, but that it's 244 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: not that I care. I don't care. You can be 245 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: whatever whatever your personality is. But at the same time, 246 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: it's just great when you have guys that don't talk 247 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: about it. They just do it and they love doing 248 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: it and they're playing for the right reasons. And that's 249 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: why we brought Xavier here. I mean, we studied the 250 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: tape on Xavier and and when you watch him play, 251 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, and he's not going to show the enthusiasm 252 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: like that because he's an older player. At the same time, 253 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: when you watch him play, the guy loves playing ball 254 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: and and he plays that way, and he's got the power. 255 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: The other thing that I look for in a player 256 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: is just size. Like in the NFL, like it's hard 257 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: to get away with being two hundred and ninety pound 258 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. In the NFL today, they get hurt, and 259 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: not all of them, but you know, the ones they're 260 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: thrown are an exception. That's why I love the three 261 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: town the three ten, three fifteen, three twenty. Those guys 262 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: don't get hurt as much. I know they can get hurt, 263 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: I get it, but in general, they don't get hurt 264 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: as much. The bigger bodies that don't get hurt. So 265 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,119 Speaker 1: you've talked a little bit a bit about Xaviers Suaphilo. 266 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about a little bit more about Jonah Williams. 267 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: What what what he brings to the table. And Dan 268 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: and I were both impressed with man, this guy you 269 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: talked about a kid that's focused, that wants to be great. 270 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: It's going to sacrifice everything to be great. His his 271 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: his focus at practice, when he's standing on the sideline 272 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: during the game, just watching the left tackle and watching 273 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: the defensive at work against a left tackle. This this 274 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: kid mentally, you know, in preparation wise, you know eight 275 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: plus what else about Jonah Williams impressed as you coach? Yeah, 276 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: so I think you hit the nail on the head um, 277 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, Like Jonah he's out in San Diego working 278 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: out and all that, right, and uh so it's like 279 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: I talked to him on the phone, you know, and 280 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: when I'm talking to him on the phone, I'm like, hey, Jony, 281 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: you know there are nice restaurants and this, you know, 282 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: the girls out there you might want. You know, you 283 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: can go on a date if you want, you know 284 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you can you know, you can 285 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: go to an arcade and play video game, you know 286 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: maybe or something, you know what I mean, Like, you 287 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: don't have It doesn't have to be twenty four to 288 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: seven football. It is a great compliment to him what 289 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: I just said, though. He is so focused on being 290 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: great at this game, and to me, it's that commitment 291 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, like what should be the next piece to 292 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: what you're looking for in a player. This total commitment 293 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: to being great and you know, and that's what he has. 294 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: And that's just evident and everything that the kid does. 295 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna greece him too much because 296 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: he hasn't played yet, but I can tell you know, 297 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: like there's a nervousness there in him about playing in 298 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: his first game because now he's been hyped, right, so 299 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot to go. You know, there's some pressure 300 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: that goes into that hype, right, And I'm like, hey, Jonah, 301 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: let me tell you something right now, That hype has 302 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: nothing to do. I said, you need to do You 303 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: need to play this game like like you're playing your 304 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: senior year in high school. I said, No one cared 305 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: when you were a senior in high school. I said, 306 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: And in the end, right, Jonah, if you can go 307 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: into the season think in that way, don't put any 308 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: pressure on yourself. And said, let's just start with this. 309 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: You will give up the sack, you will give up 310 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: the pressure. You will make a mistake, all right, And 311 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: I said, and you just come to grips with that. 312 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: Don't try and be perfect you know, and he's had 313 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: the chance to be around Joe Thomas a little bit. 314 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: And I said, Joe Thomas, did Joe Thomas have a 315 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: perfect career? Like did he give up no sacks every? Now? 316 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Come on, now, I said, You're gonna make some mistakes. 317 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: I said, so just you're gonna have to grind through it. 318 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to grind through it like every other 319 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: human being in the world when they still when they 320 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: get their first chance to play. And so, uh, I'm 321 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: excited about the kid, the kids, everything that you said 322 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: he is and and we think he's gonna help us 323 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: win games. You know, I'm confident that he's going to 324 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: be there for Joe Morral a guy that you picked up. 325 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: M Fred Johnson responded to you responded to what you 326 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: were looking for from a technique standpoint, how to play 327 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: the game of football is an offensive lament. What did 328 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: what did you see in Fred Johnson? And how has 329 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: he developed him? What do you expect out of him 330 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: down the road? Okay? And so and you know this, um, 331 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: anybody that's ever been around any teams knows this. I 332 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: was a lieutenant in the Marine Corps, so I dealt 333 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: with all different personalities, all different types when they come in. 334 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: And the one thing I did love as much as 335 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: me and you just said, hey, this is what you 336 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: look for. You know, do you want every single guy 337 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: to be a cookie cutter at all? Right? You want 338 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: them to have their own personalities, right. So and then 339 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: like a lot of times, guys that are opposite it, 340 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, they are guys that you just fall in 341 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: love with. And Freddie's one of those guys. Freddie. Now 342 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: when I say Freddy's opposite, I mean that as a 343 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: compliment in this way. So Freddie, Freddie didn't grow up 344 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: like just being in love with football, you know what 345 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,239 Speaker 1: I mean? Like Freddie had other things going on in 346 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: his life. And Freddie didn't play football until he was 347 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: in high school. He never played ball until that time. 348 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: And so you know, then he ends up playing his 349 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: senior but because of his size, you know, I don't 350 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: think he had a great high school career. If you 351 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: listened to him, he didn't. And so you know, he 352 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: ends up getting a couple of office and then he 353 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: gets a laid offer by Florida, goes to Florida, and 354 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't even a standout like player at Florida. He 355 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: was a good player. He was undrafted free agent. But 356 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: when you're around him, there's a reason why all those 357 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: things happen. And Freddie's Freddie's a work in progress when 358 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: it comes to being ready to play. But as you 359 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: can see, like that work in progress. We put it 360 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: to test against the Dolphins last year late in the season. 361 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: He played sixty five plays and then he started against 362 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: the Browns the last game of the year, and I 363 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: told Benny ben Marner said, listen, don't coach him at all. 364 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: Don't coach him this last week going into the game. 365 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: I don't want him to be uptight at all. Just 366 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: let him play. Don't say a word to him about 367 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: technique or anything. I said, because this guy has the 368 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: talent to do a lot without anybody saying a way 369 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: he is. He just naturally big story. I mean, he's 370 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: a monster. I mean you've been around him, you know, 371 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: like when you when you walk into an NFL locker room, 372 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: right and you're just you know, and you you don't 373 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: play ball or anything, you know in the NFL. You 374 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: walk into you like, oh my god, these guys are monsters, right, 375 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: And then Freddie takes that to the next level. You 376 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, all of a sudden, Freddy 377 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: Freddie walks around the corner. You're like, holy smokes, right, 378 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: you know this is stuff you see. I can't say that, 379 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: but this is stuff. You know. It's he's just freakish. 380 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: So when you're around him, Now, this is the thing 381 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: about him that he kind of plays you a little bit, okay, 382 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: because when you're around him, you don't, well, he kind 383 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: of plays it like, hey, you know, this is good stuff. 384 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: I like doing it, you know, but I'm not in 385 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: love with it. Maybe you know what I mean. Like 386 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: he kind of plays that role. But then when you 387 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: ask him a question, this kid as smart as a whip. 388 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you ask him like I'll install things 389 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: and I'll just come back and I might be talking 390 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: to somebody else, might be talking to Bobby Harten. I'll say, Freddie, 391 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: tell me, explain that to me, and he'll come back 392 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: at you and he'll explain it to you left, He'll 393 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: he'll go rip right through it. And so there's an 394 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: intelligence there that is excellent. And you can see like 395 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: he played in the game against the Browns. He did 396 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: a good job in that game and he did a 397 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: good job. He played well. He played well in both games. 398 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Did he make a couple of mistakes, yes, okay, but 399 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: the old man mistakes. Um, he looked good and I'm 400 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: very excited about where he's headed as weak. You know, 401 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: you just hit on something, coach, the intelligence, you know, 402 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: Ron intelligence, then football IQ, football intelligence. You know you 403 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: talked about Freddie having it Jonah. Um, Trey Hopkins is 404 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: a menza. I mean, guys, Bobby Hart, I mean, smart 405 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: players like that give you a lot of confidence as 406 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: a coach, don't they. So starting inside with Trey, extremely smart, right, 407 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, just ridiculous smart right. So um, it's almost 408 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: like you don't want your boss to be around when 409 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: you're coaching him because he's like a half step band 410 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: of you, you know what I mean. So like he 411 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: knows he just knows already, you know. So as soon 412 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: as you say it to him in a game, you 413 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: know he's already there. So you know, Um, he's that way. 414 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: Bobby Hart's brilliant, uh, brilliant. And so Bobby Hart knows, uh, 415 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: he knows the game and and more more than anybody, 416 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: Bobby will study the player that he's playing against, and 417 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: and just figuring out ways for him to use his 418 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: own skills and match his skills against the player he's playing. 419 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: Very smart player as well, Mike Jordan, Jonah Williams, Alex Redman. 420 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, all of them. I give them all great 421 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: marks for intelligence when it comes to understanding what we're 422 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: trying to do and understanding the importance of figuring out 423 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: what the guy against you is trying to do to you. 424 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned, uh the way Fred Johnson. You know you're 425 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: walk in the locker room. It's like, whoa you know 426 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: another kid that you drafted out of Kansas in the 427 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: sixth round, hackem Identagy. He's a guy you want coming 428 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: off the bus early. You know, when you look at 429 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: Hachem Iddentogy, it's like, oh man, this guy, this guy's 430 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: put together down. I mean, tell us about him. What's 431 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: he like as a football player. I'll be honest with you. 432 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: When when I went to the combine, you know, you 433 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: sit down and you talk to the players, you know 434 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: as they come by the table, right So you're sitting there, 435 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: you're just grabbing player you can you and you try 436 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: and position yourself to get them. You know, we didn't 437 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: interview him upstairs. But I did get a chance to 438 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: sit down and talk with him on two occasions there, 439 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: and he immediately stands out. Okay. So I watched him 440 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: on tape before I got there, and I'll be honest 441 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: with I grated him as a second round pick. I 442 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: grad with him as a second to third round pick, 443 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: and I really liked him on tape. So then you 444 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: get to the I get to the Senior Bowl, Okay. 445 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: And when I get to the Senior Bowl, I was 446 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: supposed to have him on my team. So I was 447 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: fired up because I said, okay, good, I'm really gonna 448 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: get a chance to evaluate him. By the by the 449 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: time I got to the Senior Bowl, whatever happened there, 450 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: they switched him to another team and then and that 451 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: was it. So I didn't get a chance to spend 452 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: a lot of time with him. But as soon as 453 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: I sat down with him the first time, he separates 454 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: himself from everybody else. He's a Jonah Williams type person 455 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to how much he loves football and 456 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: how much he understands commitment and responsibility and you know, 457 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: and so like I got the main thing that I 458 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: try and tell these kids right when they come out 459 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: when they get drafted. I said, this isn't a trophy 460 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: like when you get drafted in the first, second, third 461 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: round or whatever whatever you get drafted or if you 462 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: get drafted. When you get drafted, it's not a trophy. 463 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: It's it's just the beginning. This is your birth into 464 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: the game. This is your birth into the NFL. You're 465 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: you're at the beginning. You haven't done anything yet. Now 466 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: it's time for you to meet those expectations and to 467 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: exceed those expectations if you have character. And he is 468 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: so much that way, he got drafted way behind when 469 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: he should have been drafted. I could not believe that 470 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: nobody else picked him up, like we had other needs. 471 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: So we weren't able to get him in the second, third, 472 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: fourth round, okay, because we had other needs, right, and 473 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: you know how that goes in the draft. That's the 474 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: way it is, right okay. And so I understand that 475 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: when he's still sitting there in the sixth round, like 476 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me, you know. So he 477 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: is way he's much higher than that, okay. And he 478 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: can play tackle or guard. He's an athlete. When you 479 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: talk to him, he separates right away. Because he's not 480 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: phony like a lot of guys when they go to 481 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm not calling them all phone, he's either. 482 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: But they do get scripted. And you can see when 483 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: guys a scripted. They spend all this money on these 484 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: agents and they tell them what to say. And as 485 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: soon as I see a guy doing that, I'm like 486 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: this guy, right, So I just ask it. It's not 487 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: that hard, right, I just want to I'm asking you 488 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: a question. Tell me about your family, right. I mean, 489 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: it's not a hard question. And I'm not asking you 490 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: to tell me how to split an atom. Just tell 491 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: me about your family, right. And so just I just 492 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: want to hear some emotion. I want you to talk 493 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: about your mom and you shop with your mom and 494 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: your family and what you went through growing up and 495 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of these guys went through things and 496 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: I want to hear it. I want to feel some 497 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: passion from me and know who you are. That's all. 498 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: And this kid, immediately when you ask him a question, Bam, 499 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: he comes out with the answer. There is no hesitation. 500 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: He's not there's no script and I love that about him. 501 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: And then when you talk football, he almost gets insulted, 502 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: like if you said, listen, are you are you gonna 503 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: be like you say you're the hardest working guy on 504 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: your team. Are you really gonna be that when you 505 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: get there? Or I said, are you full of it? 506 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: And he's like insulted, like he's looking at you like, 507 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: are you challenging me right now? Because I will tip 508 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: this table over and knock you out right. So, and 509 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: I love that about the kid, right So, you know, 510 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: you can just tell just the way he talks about 511 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: his parents and and and and his upbringing, and he 512 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: is a a plus when it comes to where we 513 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: got him in the draft and who he is and 514 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: what he's gonna bring to the table. He is going 515 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: to compete and he is going to be able to 516 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: play guard or tackle. I'd rather have him out there 517 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: playing tackle, to be honest with you, And I think 518 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: he can do that. So I'm really excited about that. 519 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm excited about him with respect to the coronavirus and 520 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: the pandemic, unprecedented challenges And you're talking about how smart 521 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: your guys are, and they're rare intelligence football intelligence. So 522 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure the virtual meetings have gone exceedingly well. I mean, 523 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna be able to you know, adjust 524 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: to that, but not being able to get your hands 525 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: on him on the field them taking reps. I remember 526 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: with me it was like, you know, when you're working 527 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: with a guy, you want to see if he sets 528 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: short sets, medium sets deep, you know, get a feel 529 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: for him, a physical repetition read comfort level for me. 530 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: Without that physical repetition with these guys, coach, how challenging 531 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: is it going to be? It's like it's like anything, right, 532 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: So we're all in the same boat, which is what's great. Right. 533 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: It's not like somebody's got the edge over you from 534 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: another team that has more time with them. But it's 535 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: just as far as the development of a player, obviously 536 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: everything's been stunted a little bit because we didn't spend 537 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: time with them like you said we did. You know, 538 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't think any team could have done a better 539 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: job than than Zach Taylor just did. As far as 540 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: how we how we set our meetings up, what we 541 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: did with our meetings in terms of dealing with our players, 542 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: the amount of time we spent with our players. All 543 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: the installation is in so everything is done that way. 544 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: So the mentality of everything that goes to playing in 545 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: playing in the game is there, like they know who 546 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: to block. The team knows who to block. Okay, they 547 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: know where to go. Freddie knows where to go. He 548 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: knows the terminology. We actually went through plays like we 549 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: had Joe Burrow there, we had the whole offense going. 550 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: We put a playoff and they'd actually go through the 551 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: calls and run the play on air. You know, obviously 552 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: they're all sitting in their houses, but they run the 553 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: play with all the communication that goes with death play 554 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: and the receiver. You know, they talk about their routes 555 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: and what they their depth of their route, and so 556 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: everybody's talking about their position. So you do the best 557 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: you can that way. And when it just comes to 558 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: the development, you know, they do the players today as 559 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know, like Jonah sitting there working out 560 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: with Joe Thomas, so that's going to help him tremendously. 561 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: And there's things that are veteran like Joe will bring 562 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: to the table. You know, like when you're doing that, 563 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: a guy like that can really help you as far 564 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: as like being in the position that he's in right now. 565 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: You know. So they all work out at different places 566 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: and they all work out with guys, usually with line 567 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: coaches that have been been around and done it. So 568 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't see the development being totally stunted. I see 569 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: them coming in ready to go, and and then we 570 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: just have to gage right off the bat. I think 571 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: the hardest thing for us is when you get them, 572 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to cram in spring the springtime that 573 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: you missed, and you can't do that because the health 574 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: of the player is number one and so, and my 575 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: biggest thing with these players is and it's like my 576 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: first time coaching in the NFL with the Dolphins, it's 577 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: just the one thing that I start is if you 578 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: treat their body like a college team, you're gonna lose 579 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: because they're gonna get hurt because it's not a college season. 580 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 1: You've got four preseason games, then you've got sixteen regular 581 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: season games, and then if you get to the playoffs 582 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: and so on, and so it's a lot more grinding 583 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: on the body, and so you have to that body 584 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: has the rest. You cannot just you can't do a 585 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: bazilion reps every day. And I've seen coaches in college 586 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: do it, and I've seen coaches in the NFL do it, 587 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: and it doesn't work. And so I'm not worried about 588 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: their development because every NFL teams in the same shoes 589 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: and and I just I look at our unit. You 590 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: know where do we need to focus And obviously it's 591 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: the Jonah Williams not having any experience. Other than that, 592 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't see an issue. We're gonna just go as 593 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: planned and then when we get on the field, you start. 594 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: This is what I said to the players. I'm like, hey, 595 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: this is like it's like going back to high school. 596 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 1: It's like you're playing high school season, right. I mean, 597 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: you're just showing up the ball in August. So I'm 598 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: excited about I'm not worried about that. Final question coach 599 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: for me is is, um, when when you got a 600 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: guy like Joe Burrow, who you've talked about, Joe Mixon, 601 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: thousand yard rusher, aj Green Brand thousan yard receiver, one 602 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: healthy highler, boyd uh Te Higgins, John Russell, list goes 603 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: on and on and on. I mean, this is quite 604 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: a quite a litany of skill players there. People are 605 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: gonna put the telescope, microscope, all the scopes on the 606 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: offensive line, so you know there's some pressure that goes 607 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: with that, but you I know, respond to pressure. You 608 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: feel like your group is going to step up and 609 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: respond to the pressure of uh, you know, a performing 610 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: well for these has to show what they can do. 611 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that one second. I think that, 612 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, you just look at Trey Hopkins. Um. You know, 613 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: like we played our first game against the Browns last year. Uh, 614 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, we went down to the goal line and 615 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: we got the ball down to like a two yard 616 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: line down there, and we tried to we had a 617 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: run play call, but we ended up throwing the ball 618 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: and we sputtered down there. We didn't score a touchdown. 619 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: He came over to the sign he was pissed, right 620 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: and h and he let me know it, right, he 621 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: was pissed. And I loved it, right because there's a 622 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: competitive fire there, right, you know, and his leadership. You know, 623 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: he's not a vocal vocal guy, but he's not a 624 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: quiet guy either. Like he he'll say what he needs 625 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: to say. And I loved that about him. And so 626 00:32:53,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: very smart, intelligent, tough, committed, And I think that, you know, 627 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to the expectations of the line, I 628 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: think that just his temperament says it all. You know, 629 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that they're gonna they're gonna uh waiver 630 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: for one second. As far as feeling pressure to do well, yeah, 631 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna If things don't go well right off the bat, 632 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: everything's not gonna go perfect, all right. And as you know, 633 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I was looking at the stats 634 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: of you know, Peyton Manning's first year in the league. 635 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think he won three games or 636 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: something whatever, right, and and uh you know, different different 637 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and how it went down for them. And so 638 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're gonna win three games either, all right, 639 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: but hopefully we already we went through all that, right. 640 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think we're gonna play 641 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: really well. I think, uh, I think the line's gonna 642 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: play really well. And as you know, you know, it's 643 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: really comes down to chemistry and how well how well 644 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: the team jels and and a lot and how well 645 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: the offense yells. And I think if you spend any 646 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: time around Joe Burrow, which I've never met Joe Burrow. Okay, 647 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: so I've only met him. I've only seen him through 648 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: the through the Zoom meetings. But when you're around him, right. 649 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean he has a presence already that is incredible, Okay, 650 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: And it's more presence than I've ever been around than 651 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: any football team ever. And I'm not just spilling the 652 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: air right now. I'm telling you when you're there, like 653 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: Zach would give him the play, right, he never hesitated 654 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: for one second. Like his memory. You can tell he's 655 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: got a memory there. Yeah, that's good. And i mean, Zach, 656 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: you lays off these formations and plagues. I'm one of 657 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: the coaches. I couldn't repeat it everywhere, right, I'm like, 658 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: god damn right, when Zach says it right, I have 659 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: my thing on muting him, like god, dog, So how's 660 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: he gonna He ain't gonna get this right, you know. 661 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: But he rips it off and he says it with confidence. 662 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: And then he uh like when he's when he's going 663 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: through the count, the snap count, right, he actually did 664 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: the snap count, you know, like why why did you 665 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: know he does that whole business? Right? Yeah, but he's 666 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: standing up, he's standing up like he's like he's at 667 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: a game and all of our players are looking at him, 668 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this guy is unbelievable. Uh, you know 669 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: where he doesn't care, so obviously doesn't care when anybody 670 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: thinks right and and you could just tell this guy 671 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: wants to win ball games and uh and and he's 672 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: gonna have a huge impact on the chemistry of our 673 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: of our offense and our team and uh, you could 674 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: just see, you know, he he's not like you say, 675 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: pressure on the line. You know, Uh, there's pressure on 676 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: every player at every position. But you know, I think 677 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: it's their job up front to take the pressure off 678 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: of Joe and uh, because Joe Burrow, you know, just 679 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: his name, being a first round pick and all that, 680 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: it's just dudes, pressure and so and I think the 681 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: line has to do a great job at making him 682 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: feel comfortable that he can stand in the pocket and 683 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: throw U. And I know these guys, our guys are 684 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: going to step up to the challenge. I'm really confident 685 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: about this line. I feel good, Jim. I am going 686 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: to chime in with a couple of questions. Number one, 687 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: what's your plan for Billy Price this year? I thought 688 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: Billy did a really good job for us last year, 689 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: considering the situation. And you know, there's no way around uh, 690 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: when you're talking about Billy and where he fits in 691 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: this season, There's really no way around it, you know, 692 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: when when when you talk about his situation last year, 693 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: he went from being the starter and then Trey ended 694 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: up being the starter at center, and then Mike ended 695 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: up being the starter at guard, and then this Mike 696 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: got hurt and we just now I'm actually get hurt, 697 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: but Mike got nicked, and then we decided to move 698 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: Billy in there in front of Mike. And and I 699 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: thought Billy did a great job. Like Billy is a 700 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: tough guy. For him to handle the demotion last year 701 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: not be in the center and then to come in 702 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: and play as well as he did at guard throughout 703 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: the season, I really thought he did a good job. 704 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: So going forward, where does Billy fit in? So right now, right, 705 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: he'd be the next guy on the field at center 706 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: of guard, you know, and and he just brings a 707 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: presence there, and he brings a security there as far 708 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: as having that sixth and that seventh player that can 709 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: just uh, you know, you hit the you hit the 710 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: ground run. And when it comes to your feelings about 711 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: how well this unit can do. Having said that, is 712 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: Billy in the mix to be a starter always always? Right? So, um, 713 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, if Billy's in there with you know, he'll 714 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: take reps with Mike at left guard. M He'll get 715 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: some reps at right guard. He's also get some reps 716 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: at center, of course, So he gives you a he 717 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: gives you some ability inside. Billy's a good player. Billy's 718 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: going to help us win games. Final question for me, 719 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: there are still some well known veteran free agents out there. 720 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: Have you studied those guys closely in case there's a 721 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: financial fit or in case something happens in training camp 722 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: early in the season where you might need somebody else. Yeah, 723 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: so all of that comes directed to me by the 724 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: head coach. Have I looked at players, yes? Would I 725 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: name them right now? No? But of course, you know 726 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: that's part of our job is to keep those guys 727 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: on the back burner and to have somebody in your 728 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 1: mind that's ready for you to sign, like a John 729 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: Jerry last year. But I love that signing last year. 730 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: We really needed him. You know, he ended up playing 731 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: a lot of football for us last year, right and 732 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: John was at the end of his career. Love him 733 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: to death, love what he did for us. But at 734 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: the same time, yes, there are other free agents that 735 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: if you had an early injury, you know what I mean, 736 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So you gotta be ready to 737 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: go and and grab one of those guys if you're 738 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: in a position to do that, and if you need 739 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: to do that right now. You know, when we went 740 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: into free agency and all that, I'm thinking, like with 741 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,959 Speaker 1: Freddie there, you know, you don't feel like you really 742 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: need anything that way with the team as the draft pick, 743 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm really not worried about that. And then when you 744 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: got Xavier inside right now, with Billy inside, and then 745 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: of course Alex Fredman and U and Mike Jordan, I 746 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: just feel really good about, you know, about where we're 747 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: at that way. And then we also have like Isaiah 748 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: Prince from Ohio State, who's a second year player. Isaiah, 749 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, Isaiah brings a lot to the table. I'm 750 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: very impressed with him. You know, I had had him 751 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: slated as a possible draft pick two years ago, and 752 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: then you got o'she Dugan Shay is a machine. I 753 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: mean you're talking about another massive human being that can move, 754 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: that can play tackle or guard. I really feel good 755 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: that we have some players that can step forward if 756 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: if need be. I don't know, if we need to 757 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: go into free agency. But again, just like I said, 758 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: you know you're always prepared for that and it will 759 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: be prepared for that as well. Coach, you got me 760 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: fired up. I'll give you a couple of snaps. I'll 761 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: give you a couple of goal line stuff. Don't make 762 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: me run anywhere, but I'll give you a couple of 763 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: goal line snaps. And appreciate, appreciate your carbon the time 764 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: that you did for us, and ken't thank you enough. 765 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate you, sir. All right, hey, thank you guys. I 766 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you and look forward to the season. I thanks 767 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: to Lapan Coach Turner, and that's going to do it 768 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: for this episode of The Bengals Booth Podcast brought to 769 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: you by Prime Sport, the official fan, travel and hospitality 770 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. 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