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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: on this Friday, October twenty. It's got a lot to

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Speaker 2: talk to you about today. We'll be joined later in

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Speaker 2: the program by our friend Dennish Jasusa has a new movie,

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Speaker 2: Police State. It's very timely because of the weaponization of DOJ,

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Speaker 2: law enforcement and all of that for political reasons, so

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Speaker 2: we're looking forward to talking to Denish about that. Will

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Speaker 2: also be joined by our friend, the publisher of The

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Speaker 2: New York Sun, David Afun, who is an expert in

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Speaker 2: Israeli politics and national security. He'll be with us to

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Speaker 2: give updates on the conflict, When can we expect the

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Speaker 2: ground invasion to start? And a whole lot more. Clay's

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Speaker 2: pulled a Wall Street Journal editor that looks at crime

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Speaker 2: in California as well as crime in Florida in recent

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Speaker 2: years and does anyone to guess whether the Blue state

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Speaker 2: or the red state is doing better at handling crime

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Speaker 2: and what those realities are. We'll break down those stats

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Speaker 2: for you, and we'll also look at some of your

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Speaker 2: emails to some of your calls a lot to do here.

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Speaker 2: We want to start though with the Biden's speech about

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes from last night, pretty quick speech where he

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Speaker 2: dealt with a whole range of national security issues, and

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Speaker 2: the primary thing is that he is really combining Israel's

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Speaker 2: fight against Hamas with Ukraine's fight against Russia, which is well,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into this, but it's very interesting. It all

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Speaker 2: comes alongside a emergency funding request of one hundred billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: a majority of which is supposed to go to Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: So we'll discuss. But first off, the media, the live

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Speaker 2: media for sure loved this speech by Biden and wanted

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Speaker 2: to give you a sense of the congratulations they were

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Speaker 2: offering up after his fifteen minute teleprise to read play sixteen.

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Speaker 3: This is the thing that Joe Biden does better than

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Speaker 3: you know, most politicians.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was a good speech. I give him

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Speaker 1: a good grade tonight.

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Speaker 2: I think it may be remembered it as one of

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Speaker 2: the best, if not the best speeches of his presidency.

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Speaker 1: I think he really did an amazing job.

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Speaker 4: He was in command, he was strong, the right message.

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Speaker 2: For now Joe Biden has come into himself.

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Speaker 5: This has been a good period for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 6: At times like this, I look and say, thank God,

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden's our president, not Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that last one was Ron Clay. No surprise that

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Speaker 2: he's going to say that. Some people say he was

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Speaker 2: running the Biden presidency for a while.

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Speaker 1: Clay.

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Speaker 2: There there were some things in this speech, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to play some clips from it. There were some

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Speaker 2: things in the speech that certainly I think made a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense, were the right things to say. Hamas

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Speaker 2: is evil. What they did is evil. When you get

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Speaker 2: into the policy, and I've said this all along, Democrats

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Speaker 2: at the top the Democrat Party. You know, seventy five

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Speaker 2: percent of the Democrat Party is aligned with Israel on policy.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty five or thirty percent. And this actually is

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Speaker 2: reflected in the polls about thirty percent of Democrats don't

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Speaker 2: want us to support Israel.

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Speaker 1: Let's fight again. So that's about what we've been saying.

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Speaker 2: So you've got like a twenty five to thirty percent

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Speaker 2: anti Semitism wing of the Democrat Party on policy. Though,

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Speaker 2: combining this moment for Israel with a Ukraine funding request

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Speaker 2: and acting like Israel's fight against Jihadish terror stretching back

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Speaker 2: Russia and Ukraine. There was a lot going on here

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Speaker 2: that I think people need to take a closer look at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of things stood out to me.

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Speaker 7: There were three mentions of his speech of Islamophobia. There

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Speaker 7: were two mentions of anti Semitism. That seems wildly out

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Speaker 7: of sorts. Again, you should never judge any war one

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Speaker 7: based on their religion. For anybody out there who is listening,

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Speaker 7: whether you are Christian, Jew, Muslim, atheist, whatever religious beliefs,

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Speaker 7: you choose to be ascribed to Buddhist and do like whatever,

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Speaker 7: you have the right, thanks to living in America to

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Speaker 7: is no moral equivocation here. The other thing I would equivalency, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: equivalency what I would say in general, also associated with this,

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden I think has mostly been right. I mean,

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Speaker 7: yesterday we pledged and pledged our appreciation to John Fetterman,

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Speaker 7: which I never would have believed, because he's right on

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Speaker 7: would say, I still want more of to me. I

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Speaker 7: know Biden addressed American hostages, and I want to play

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Speaker 7: cut eleven here, but we still have twelve or fourteen Americans,

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Speaker 7: some of them children, that are being held by a

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Speaker 7: terrorist organization, and I don't understand how that isn't the

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Speaker 7: primary focus of American interest right now. I understand wanting

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Speaker 7: to support Israel, but first I want to support actual

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Speaker 7: American citizens. Here's Biden cut eleven to me. This should

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Speaker 7: be all everybody's talking about. Remember what happened in Iran

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Speaker 7: when our embassy adults were taken hostage. It was a

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Speaker 7: huge focus of the nineteen eighty election. And it's like

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Speaker 7: these twelve or fourteen American citizens that are currently held

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Speaker 7: by terrorists, many of them are children. It's like they

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Speaker 7: don't even exist. Play cut eleven.

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Speaker 8: Most movingly, I met with Israeli who would personally live

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Speaker 8: through horrific horror the attack by a moss on the

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Speaker 8: seventh of October. More than one three hundred people slaughtered

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Speaker 8: in Israel, including at least thirty two American citizens. Scores

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Speaker 8: of innocence, from infants to the elderly grandparents. Israel Is

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Speaker 8: Americans taken hostage. As I told the families of Americans

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Speaker 8: being held captive by a mass We're pursuing every avenue

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Speaker 8: to bring their loved ones home. As President, there is

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Speaker 8: no higher priority for me than the safety of Americans

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Speaker 2: Look, so he's he's said it. He's not saying it enough.

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Speaker 2: He's not saying it enough. There there is a and

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Speaker 2: you know, the White House shared a photo of some

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Speaker 2: special operations folks.

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Speaker 1: You saw this, right, yes.

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Speaker 2: And then they deleted it because that's you know, active

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Speaker 2: whiff is that? Forden not good, That's not good.

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Speaker 1: They do.

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Speaker 2: You do not want to be sharing the identities, especially

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Speaker 2: of our you know, elite, elite units, right, That's that's

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Speaker 2: something you don't do publicly.

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Speaker 1: But you know it was. It was a mess up.

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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, there may be things that are either in the

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Speaker 2: I think a way that the White House probably pushes

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Speaker 2: really focused in on this. I'm sure they're saying, yes,

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Speaker 2: we're focused in on the hostages and we're but but

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Speaker 2: here's my thing, this moment should be all about Israel

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Speaker 2: and Hamas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it.

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Speaker 2: Really turned into Israel Hamas plus putin Russia Ukraine plus

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Speaker 2: the funding request goes to Taiwan, so I guess China

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Speaker 2: possible invasion of Taiwan. You know, the fact is support

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Speaker 2: for funding Ukraine for Ukraine's war is starting to dwindle

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Speaker 2: soldiers for a very long time and that this will

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Speaker 2: cost us a trillion dollars. That sounded maybe like crazy

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Speaker 2: generally Trustpuck when he talks about national security Clay, We're

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Speaker 2: already in for hundreds of billions with Russia. Hundreds of

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Speaker 2: full number. He wants another sixty billion as part of this.

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Speaker 2: That's just an emergency appropriation for a data said Russia,

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Speaker 2: I met Ukraine for Ukraine in all this, and to

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Speaker 2: to use the clear moral outrage the world has against

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Speaker 2: what Hamas just did and the support that Israel should

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Speaker 2: on a similar level, similar US interest, similar possibility of this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he brought up NATO allyed countries instead if

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Speaker 1: What Why is he saying that right now? Do you

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Speaker 2: It feels like he's combining two issues where there's no

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, because they're going to say if Republicans

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Speaker 7: ability to pass anything, because.

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Speaker 1: We should mention Jim Joe done.

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Speaker 7: Jim Jordan has lost the third speaker vote, got twenty

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Speaker 7: five defections. Talk about this maybe a little bit more

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Speaker 7: next segment. But Buck, what I would say is, in

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Speaker 7: addition to focusing on hostages, I want to make sure

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Speaker 7: that I don't have one red cent of my money

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Speaker 7: and your money and everybody else out there who's paying

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Speaker 7: saying thirteen billion dollars for the Israeli conflict, how much

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Speaker 7: that that six billion we were going to give to Iran,

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Speaker 7: back pocket because they effectively are running Gaza. So wait

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Speaker 7: a minute here, I want to know exactly how those

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Speaker 1: And to your point, they are.

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Speaker 7: Trying to create a scenario where they can attack Republicans

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Speaker 7: for not giving money to Israel because that is more

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Speaker 7: popular in the Republican base right now. If they're people

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Speaker 7: shouldn't be giving any foreign funds to anybody. We're thirty

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Speaker 7: But if you were just choosing do you want money

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Speaker 7: I think our audience would be ninety five to five

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Speaker 7: in favor of giving money to Israel over Ukraine. And

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Speaker 7: I think that's what the Biden administration is feeling, and

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Speaker 7: they're trying to link it because they want to make

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Speaker 7: this feel like the two issues are connected, when in

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Speaker 7: reality they're totally separate.

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Speaker 2: There's also a very real concern over the ability to

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Speaker 2: supply ordinance to Israel should it need it in this

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Speaker 2: if this turns into an extended war, especially if you

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Speaker 2: that Israel will need numbers. It's a very high function

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Speaker 2: we have to help provide to Israel if this war

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Speaker 7: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I told

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Speaker 2: Here we go be it's it's cut twenty three.

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Speaker 6: So this will probably end with twenty five no votes

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Speaker 1: Is he going to keep.

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Speaker 3: There's just just like it's been for some of the

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Speaker 7: So here's the big takeaway that I would play out.

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Speaker 7: it appears that Matt Gates and seven others if I

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Speaker 1: Because if you I mean you know, like I know, it's.

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Speaker 7: Do you remember when you play kickball or you play

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Speaker 2: But even beyond that, there doesn't seem to be a

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Speaker 2: It'll all be all right, but you know, you do

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Speaker 2: So there are some some things that are at stake

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in the eight hundred eight to you want to

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Speaker 2: take some of your calls Cheryl in Texas, Cheryl, what

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Speaker 1: Cheryl in Texas?

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Speaker 5: Yep?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey?

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's beautiful here in Texas. This FYI. I love

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Speaker 4: listening to y'all show first. Okay, on this policy, it's crazy,

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Speaker 4: but they have to include the border in Israel on

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Speaker 4: I don't understand what the to do is on the speaker.

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Speaker 4: Could y'all just go ahead and nominate me and I

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Speaker 2: Cheryl, I think you would have far more sense than

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Speaker 2: some of the nonsense that we see going on on

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Speaker 2: ideot all of me. Thank you very much for calling in.

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Speaker 2: You know, Clay on the combining all these there's no

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Speaker 1: That's what this is.

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Speaker 7: Here is what I'm concerned about with this speaker mess continuing,

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Speaker 7: that is there. Now, some of you out there might

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Speaker 2: Is a gridlock case which is always always in the background.

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Speaker 2: Paul in Columbus, Ohio. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Paul?

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Speaker 5: Hello, guys, how are you?

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Speaker 1: We're great? What's on your mind?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Real, real quick it's funny when the Democrats lose power.

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Speaker 5: It's all about by partisanship, and the adults are back

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Speaker 5: in the White House, right yep? Now, who voted for

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Speaker 5: Last night the President said he wanted to do all

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Speaker 7: True, And it's worth me intering again. If a few

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Speaker 7: it's almost like the Democrats operate with a ferocious lust

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Speaker 1: Eh, you're rhino. It starts to get a little annoying

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Speaker 7: No, he does not, and the media mostly doesn't demand

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Speaker 2: But here he is talking about why if we don't

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Speaker 2: do everything to keep funding the Ukraine war. Basically, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, maybe the world's going to end Play twelfth.

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Speaker 8: We know that our allies and maybe most important adversaries

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Speaker 8: and competitors are watching. They're watching our response in Ukraine

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Speaker 8: as well, and if we walk away and let foot

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Speaker 8: in the race in Ukraine's independence, would be aggressives around

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Speaker 8: the world be in bold and to try the same.

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Speaker 8: The risk of conflict in chaos could spread in other

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Speaker 8: parts of the world in the end of Pacific, in

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Speaker 8: the Middle East, especially in the Middle East, Iran is

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Speaker 8: supporting Russia's in Ukraine and a supporting Hamas.

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Speaker 2: That's want Outclay that this is effectively a redo of

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Speaker 2: Vietnam Communist Domino theory.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if we don't do everything to maintain the territorial well,

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Speaker 2: our border's wide open. Remember that for a second. But

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Speaker 2: if we don't do everything to maintain the territorial integrity

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Speaker 2: of Ukraine by fighting a war that Let's be honest, folks.

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Speaker 1: Ukraine cannot win this war.

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Speaker 2: They can hold what they are holding right now, maybe,

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Speaker 2: but we will continue to fund this war four years,

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Speaker 2: they will not be able to push Russia out of

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Speaker 2: their territory. And so what are we trying to accomplish?

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Speaker 2: No one talks about this. What is the end goal here?

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Speaker 2: The end goal is Putin's entire military withdraws from every

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Speaker 2: inch of Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Does that include you es?

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Speaker 2: That include Crimea, by the way, which had a referendum

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Speaker 2: in defeat and humiliation. We are going to be writing

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Speaker 2: one hundred billion dollars two hundred billion dollar checks every

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Speaker 2: year for the next decade. Russia will not back off

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Speaker 2: this fight. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, if you're wondering why these things

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Speaker 7: are linked so much, remember Zelenski tried to.

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Speaker 1: Go to Israel and Israel told him no.

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Speaker 7: It didn't get a lot of attention, but Zolensky's immediate

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Speaker 7: reaction to the Hamas terror attack is effectively to think, oh, no,

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Speaker 7: this is going to distract from what we've got going on.

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Speaker 7: I need to try to link Israel and Ukraine so

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Speaker 7: that our funding doesn't get challenged.

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Speaker 2: Putin's yes, he's a thug, he's a bad guy, he's

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Speaker 2: fighting a war of regression. All of that is true,

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Speaker 2: but he is a rational actor. And Trump has already

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Speaker 2: talked about how he would negotiate an end to the

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Speaker 2: conflict with Putin. A huge difference here is Hamas is

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Speaker 2: an anti Semitic death cult. There is no negotiating with Hamas,

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Speaker 2: and Israel can actually defeat Hamas. Our support for Israel

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Speaker 2: is both a is both part of our allegiance to

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Speaker 2: the state of Israel because you know of our kinship

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Speaker 2: to the Israeli people, and it also has a clear

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Speaker 2: and defined end, which is to destroy a terrorist entity

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Speaker 2: on its borders, which Israel can do. To compare this

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Speaker 2: to Ukraine is to say, oh, it's kind of like

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Speaker 2: what's going on in Ukraine. No, what's going on in

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Speaker 2: Ukraine is we are backing a much smaller force, a

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Speaker 2: much smaller state, a much smaller population, with an open

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Speaker 2: ended checkbook against a Russian aggressor where we don't even

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Speaker 2: have any There's no negotiations, there's no discussion, there's nothing

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Speaker 2: going on that we know of really here, and we're

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Speaker 2: just supposed to keep funding this ad infinitum. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there is no end in sight. And this is why

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Speaker 2: I think when Trump says, look, I would sit down

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Speaker 2: with Putin and say, what do we have to do

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Speaker 2: to end this? There we already had Crimea in Russian

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Speaker 2: hands for years and the world didn't end. The only

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Speaker 2: way that this ends is going to be some portion

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Speaker 2: of eastern Ukraine is going to end up in Russian hands.

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Speaker 2: And that's unfair. Life is unfair. It's terrible that Putin

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Speaker 2: has done this. But the alternative is this stalemate that

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Speaker 2: goes on for I don't know, five years, ten years.

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Speaker 2: The Iran Iraq War went on for a decade. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people died like this

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Speaker 2: can go on for years.

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Speaker 1: I just look at North and South Korea.

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Speaker 7: I mean, effectively, you've got a stalemate where both sides

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Speaker 7: have decided in that conflict that they're never going to

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Speaker 7: officially end it. And it feels like we have a

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Speaker 7: stalemate in Ukraine. Nothing has changed for a year. We're

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Speaker 7: spending a lot of money for nothing to change.

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Speaker 2: I just want to hear from Biden, what is the

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Speaker 2: end state we're funding the Ukraine War to what defeat Russia?

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Speaker 2: Ukraine is not going to be able to defeat the

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Speaker 2: Russian military in Ukraine unless there's some NATO intervention, and

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Speaker 2: then we really are talking about World War three. So

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Speaker 7: As we roll through the Friday edition of the program,

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Speaker 7: We've been reacting to Joe Biden's address on What's going

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Speaker 7: on in Gaza, requesting money for Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: All of that and more.

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Speaker 7: But also I think it's important to note the degree

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Speaker 7: to which the left in this country has exposed itself

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Speaker 7: all throughout the response. As we're coming up on nearly

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Speaker 7: two weeks since Hamas brutally murdered fourteen hundred innocent Israelis

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Speaker 7: and a lot of the BLM universe that was so

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Speaker 7: universally praised about three years ago, they raised tens of

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Speaker 7: millions of dollars. BLM has actually made life worse for

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Speaker 7: virtually everyone because crime has skyrocketed. In the cities where

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Speaker 7: BLM is the most active, the rates of crime have

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Speaker 7: actually gone up the most. And you know, I didn't

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Speaker 7: think that it was going to be a former beauty

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Speaker 7: queen who would be making a cogent argument about why

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Speaker 7: this is such hypocrisy.

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Speaker 1: But this is the former Miss.

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Speaker 7: Israel calling out BLM for their hypocrisy for not talking

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Speaker 7: about all the women raped and all the slaughtered babies

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Speaker 7: in Israel.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 9: They say they care about black people, they say they

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Speaker 9: care about humans rights. What about my rights as a

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Speaker 9: black woman in Israel. You know, in Israel there is

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Speaker 9: huge black Jewish community here, and I thought Black lives

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Speaker 9: matters in Israel too, so I was shocked by their response,

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Speaker 9: but that they didn't say anything about this.

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Speaker 2: And do you think Black Lives Matter as a fraud?

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Speaker 9: I think they are hypocrites they support because if you

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Speaker 9: supports humans rights, he's supposed to.

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Speaker 1: Stand with Israel, you know, Clay.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because they've been trying on the left to

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Speaker 2: ex explain why it is that something like a b

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Speaker 2: l M has this here. Here's a Vox if you

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Speaker 2: want to know what the pseudo intellectuals of the left

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Speaker 2: where where they're going for this stuff. Vox website. There's

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Speaker 2: a piece here the long complicated history of black solidarity

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Speaker 2: with Palestinians and Jews. And what we see now is

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Speaker 2: actually for black organizations like BLM and and UH and

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Speaker 2: the BLM entities that are out there, the various BLM entities,

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Speaker 2: is that it's solidarity actually with Palestinians almost exclusively in

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Speaker 2: this conflict. We have not seen any major organ any

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Speaker 2: major organizations come out, you know, in the same way

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Speaker 2: that are related to b LM condemning Hamas. And it

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Speaker 2: really goes to all those things we've talked about, which

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Speaker 2: is that for, in the contemporary narrative, Palestinians are Muslim, brown, colonized, oppressed,

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Speaker 2: and and it's a quote apartheid state. And so that's

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Speaker 2: why any group in this country that's entire reason for

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Speaker 2: existence is the victimhood narrative and the constant pushing of

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Speaker 2: the unbearable oppression that exists here in America. They view

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Speaker 2: Israel as the oppressor and therefore, and they also view

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Speaker 2: Israel as white, which, as I've said, is a very

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Speaker 2: oversimplified view of the Israeli state. There are many Arabs

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Speaker 2: and za Reeli state. There are Arab Christians in the

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Speaker 2: Israeli States. There are Ethiopian Jews. I mean, you go

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Speaker 2: down the list. I don't have time to go through

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Speaker 2: all the different ethnicities. But that's why they align in

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Speaker 2: this way. And it does show a blatant hypocrisy, and

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Speaker 2: it also shows an inability to distinguish the most basic

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Speaker 2: moral truths. In the aftermath of a terrorist attack like

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Speaker 2: what we just saw against Israel, it is not hard

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Speaker 2: to condemn that in that moment if you have even

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Speaker 2: a shred of decency and integrity. And yet all these organizations,

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Speaker 2: all these different individuals in this country and around the

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Speaker 2: world somehow find a way to make this about how

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Speaker 2: Palestinians are oppressed, or.

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Speaker 7: Just claim that this is a nuanced and difficult situation

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Speaker 7: to analyze. It's interesting, buck because if you look at

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Speaker 7: Ukraine in Russia, if you said anything other than Russia

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Speaker 7: is the worst country that has ever existed in the

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Speaker 7: history of mankind, then you were a Vladimir Putin stooge

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Speaker 7: who was out spreading Russian propaganda. Now I'm not defending Russia,

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Speaker 7: but Russia is engaged in a military assault upon another country.

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Speaker 7: That is their primary goal in invading Ukraine, and they've

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Speaker 7: certainly committed war crimes, which typically are going to follow

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Speaker 7: invasions of this sort, but their primary goal is military

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Speaker 7: in nature. They're primarily fighting against the Ukrainian military. What

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Speaker 7: Hamas did was invade Israel and specifically rape and murder

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Speaker 7: completely innocent people. So there is to me, if you're

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Speaker 7: going to condemn something, a direct terror attack is easier

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Speaker 7: to condemn than a military invasion. Both can be wrong,

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Speaker 7: but it's just interesting to me that the left in

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Speaker 7: this country policed what you were allowed to say about

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Speaker 7: the Russia Ukraine war more than they have an actual

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Speaker 7: terror attack, and indeed they've made excuses for Hamas and

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Speaker 7: to the point, Buck where and I'm gonna keep hammering this.

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Speaker 7: We've got actual American hostages that it's as if no

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Speaker 7: one cares about. We don't even know the total number,

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Speaker 7: but we know there are Americans that are completely innocent

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Speaker 7: that are currently held hostage by Hamas. Britney Griner was

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Speaker 7: an international incident, Buck and she was arrested for violating

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Speaker 7: Russian drug law.

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Speaker 1: She committed a crime.

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Speaker 7: Argue her punishment was too severe, and I don't begrudge

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Speaker 7: trying to get American citizens back from foreign countries.

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Speaker 1: But how in the world is.

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Speaker 7: The media more aggrieved by Britney Griner than they are

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Speaker 7: kids that end up in Hamas prisons?

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Speaker 2: We know we know the answer, of course, which is

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Speaker 2: the view of wokeness and intersection She's a black lesbian,

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Speaker 2: She's a and so LGBTQ plus celebrity, and therefore the

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Speaker 2: left was more interested in her safety and security than

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Speaker 2: they are just other people who happen to be Americans.

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Speaker 7: And think about that, Think about how broken intersectionality and

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Speaker 7: identity politics is that a kid. I can't think of

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Speaker 7: anything worse Again, as a parent than having a child

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Speaker 7: kidnapped by a terrorist organization that is threatening to behead them.

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Speaker 7: And we're somehow not talking about it. We haven't talked

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Speaker 7: about it in a while.

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Speaker 2: But I do worry that the that Hamas will try

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Speaker 2: to put on the internet some executions of hostages, because

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Speaker 2: when you've done what they've done, there's no you have

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Speaker 2: no decency, orfication or integrity to protect. So there is

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Speaker 2: nothing that we can consider to be beyond the evil

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Speaker 2: of Hamasa's entity at this point. And that is why

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Speaker 2: the Israelis must go in there and capture, kill all

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Speaker 2: Hamas leadership, all Hamas militants.

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Speaker 1: They must destroy this organization, no doubt.

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Speaker 7: All Right, we come back our one in the books.

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Speaker 7: We'll talk about an interesting editorial in the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 7: Florida and California, how have they compared in rates of

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Speaker 7: violent crime?

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Speaker 1: Data is pretty staggering. We'll lay it out for you.

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Speaker 7: Let you compare Gavin Newsom versus Ron desantus as they

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Speaker 7: get ready for that battle, and we continue to have

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Speaker 7: this Florida versus California effectively argument. I think it's sealed,

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Speaker 7: sign sealed and delivered with the data that we're about

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Speaker 7: to share with you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging. This is plain buff

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Speaker 2: Four