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Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and

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Speaker 1: entertainment in the Strait. Now here's Chris Johnson. You're now

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Speaker 1: tuned in to k J Long. Today's guests on the show.

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Speaker 1: Who's the head coach? King Drew Boys Varsity Basketball? They

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Speaker 1: were CIF City Open Division finalist last year, took a

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Speaker 1: tough one of Fairfax almost won the championship. We got

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Speaker 1: Lloyd Webster in the building, coach. What's good with you? Man?

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Speaker 1: All a? Well, Man, I appreciate you for having me

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Speaker 1: man in a long time coming. Man, you know in

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Speaker 1: on here with a l A city legend, man, somebody

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Speaker 1: that I have a great deal of respect for it

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Speaker 1: and look up too. So and I'm just I'm streaming

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Speaker 1: humble today. Well man, I appreciate you, brother for making

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Speaker 1: the time. Bro, I've been watching you. We we we

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Speaker 1: we reconnected. Uh several years ago. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you remember Man University High School. I think it was

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Speaker 1: might have been a um, you know, hoop master's situation

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Speaker 1: up there. I don't I don't know what it was,

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Speaker 1: but we had reconnected it. I think my son was

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Speaker 1: like a sophomore or junior in high school. But it

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Speaker 1: was fun to reconnect with you. I was kind of

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Speaker 1: there before you had got the King Drew job. Man.

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Speaker 1: I was always interested because you always were a basketball dude. Man.

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Speaker 1: Your knowledge of the game, your command of the game,

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Speaker 1: and just you knew everything we were talking about. Man,

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Speaker 1: you knew about everything that I that I knew about

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Speaker 1: I was wondering. Man, just talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: your background, your beginnings, you know, the foundation of Lloyd

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Speaker 1: Webster in this in this hoop game. Yeah, Man, you

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Speaker 1: know I started out like most guys planning at the

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Speaker 1: planning at the park, you know, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: older guys you're like, Man, you don't mind thinging, you

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Speaker 1: know down there, down low, and you you know, you

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Speaker 1: sacrifice the body a lot. You know, you might, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to go play a little higher level, man, trying

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Speaker 1: for the squad or something. By the time, man, I

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Speaker 1: was living in Compton and my grandmother lived in Rental, Diminus.

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Speaker 1: But back back then, you know, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of invisible lines that would keep you going to a

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Speaker 1: secular school. So where she lived that when my mom

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Speaker 1: ended up moving to that school, was banning, so we

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Speaker 1: can only go to banking. But my mom at the

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Speaker 1: time was working for the district, so she ended up

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Speaker 1: getting me and permitted to It's in Carson High School.

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Speaker 1: So that was when my boys in middle school. Would

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Speaker 1: you know, they would be like, hey, man, the bees

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Speaker 1: and seeds are trying out. You know, let's go see

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Speaker 1: if we can get on the bees and see squad

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Speaker 1: and you know that we can make that. We know

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Speaker 1: we can get on the tape before, you know, because

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Speaker 1: we were hearing all of this stuff about dudes and Carson.

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Speaker 1: I think at the time they had like Rudy Washington,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie stay and lead, you know, eyes up there, so

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Speaker 1: you know we'll be hearing about it. Like man, you

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Speaker 1: know six and eleven. Back then, I was probably like

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Speaker 1: a giant. Let me make sure I'm ready for that,

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Speaker 1: you know. But you know, and you know how it

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Speaker 1: is in there, But guys are gonna pump you up

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Speaker 1: the making thinking the next Jordan, and you're like, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, so try that out with the bees and

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Speaker 1: seas as an eighth grader and coach was like, man,

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Speaker 1: you don't need to be here, you guys need to

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Speaker 1: early nineties three and UM made the JV squad And yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was my first beginning of playing who you know

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Speaker 1: o t out fitt stuff in Narbonne recruited to go

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Speaker 1: to the Mingus Hills by coach you know, yeah getting

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Speaker 1: you know what, I was not a classroom guys. I

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Speaker 1: I mean, what what what's going on? But why I

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Speaker 1: like man, you know the influx of over there in

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Speaker 1: and and let me you know, it's very easily influenced

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Speaker 1: I sell the kids all the time. You had six

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Speaker 1: I kind of downplayed that, like away was it be

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Speaker 1: one man that was nothing, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And and then you know what, I was done playing

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Speaker 1: juco um a referee at the time my mom was dating,

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Speaker 1: don't love a sport like that anymore, you don't have

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Speaker 1: anything to get to it. Just stop playing. And that

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Speaker 1: kind of got me to thinking, like, do I really

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Speaker 1: you know it's fun? And you know which which one

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Speaker 1: was it? Though? Did you did you love the game?

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Speaker 1: I mean, because obviously you let the game because you're

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Speaker 1: that's wild because you would think that somebody that's coming

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Speaker 1: A or Juko, why do you think that mentality was

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Speaker 1: if you don't if you don't make it to the

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Speaker 1: lot of times it was the times when you didn't

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Speaker 1: Like when you didn't, when you weren't on the level

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Speaker 1: So I'm taking these classes. Um, everything's doing great. Uh.

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Speaker 1: by boxing. Man. I started copping in the pickup with him,

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Speaker 1: man whooping, and the guys was like, man, I mane,

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Speaker 1: Rod Tangent. Rod Angie was the head coach at Guardina

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Speaker 1: So when I shared the story, he says, okay, I

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Speaker 1: remember coach and I recruiting you in high school. We

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Speaker 1: about four years in the Northern League, which is like

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Speaker 1: Franklin Marshall, Lincoln Wilson, Eagle Rock on that side of town.

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Speaker 1: So you you understand where I was at. So I

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Speaker 1: So so you're come from that Davia Night tree, come

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Speaker 1: It was a big time star. Man six seven PG

428
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Speaker 1: was recruited by s c CAL Washington State, Oregon State

429
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: came in my practice. Man, I was crazy bring having

430
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: those coaches. Ben Johnson who was assistant at Washington State

431
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: at the time, he came down to practice. Uh So,

432
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: Man Draper was a big time Draper actually plays in

433
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: Brazil now. He's been a proteer now for about six

434
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: seven years, so he's he's doing great. So that was

435
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 1: like my first star player in the Coliseum League. It

436
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: was I had Draper there who ended up in f

437
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: I had Michael Shavers who ended up playing at UH

438
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: Eastern Illinois. And then when you when look when you

439
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: talk like to have players. I want people in my

440
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: artists to understand this and understand where Locke is, to

441
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: understand what Gompers is. Understand just kind of the type

442
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: of guys were talking about. It's on the east side

443
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, so it's it's in probably one of

444
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 1: the most destitute areas of the city. It's a school

445
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: that is under resource underserved obviously, and you and you

446
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: took a job at a school without a lot of resources.

447
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: How difficult was that to coach, to develop players and

448
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: to build a winner. In a situation like that, it

449
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: brings me, It brings you, It brings you back to

450
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: what we talked about in the beginning. You know, it's

451
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: like I've really discovered how I really love a game,

452
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: and therefore it gave me this certain love for those

453
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: kids because I just wanted to see them succeed. So

454
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: it kind of like I just became they became like

455
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: my offspring in a sense, because I just wanted to

456
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: see them be successful when I've seen the potential and

457
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: I told them, hey, have you fore we follow this blueprint,

458
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a honest success, and you're gonna have

459
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot of success because guess what, people on this

460
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: side of town, they're not supposed to get out. And

461
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: those kids took that conversation and they motivated them, and

462
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: they just took it and ran with it. You know.

463
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: Don Weppo had a son who played a door seat,

464
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Speaker 1: and I had a kid on the team in two

465
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Speaker 1: thousand uh two thousand and ten, two thousand eleven. His

466
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: name was uhlp uh Edward Talbert and he had never

467
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: dunked in the game and uh Don's son was big time.

468
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: End up playing in lamar Man. This kid picks up

469
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: a loose ball, goes down the floor and Don's son

470
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: jumped and he jumped and he dumped on his son.

471
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: And they came up with me after the game. He said,

472
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: who is that kid? And I said, that's Edward. They're like, man, well,

473
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: what are you doing over here? And that was you know,

474
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: and that was just simple, just let's get in the

475
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: weight room. That's work. Let's work. Let's work, because we've

476
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: got to outwork people. And I think that the kids

477
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: had that David and Gelive approach like but people don't

478
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: understand about David. And the story of David is that

479
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: before he even fought Goliath, he had already killed the

480
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: lion and the bear. So killing the liab with the

481
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: sings sling shode was nothing. He had already killed two

482
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: other beasts, but you know with the sling side. So

483
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm really big on mental, you know, the mental aspect

484
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: of the life. Nobody can attack your peace unless you

485
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: let them. And each of those kids that everything is

486
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: starting in their mind and they got to play with

487
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: their hearts. That's just what I preached. I don't care

488
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: about who we have to go take down, who we

489
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: have to play. I think that if you can teach

490
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: kids that they have to be have a mental approach

491
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: and play with their heart. Man, if you don't have

492
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: those type of guys, then't you know it's hard to coach. Well,

493
00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: you're you're developing mens. You give them some skills, tools

494
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: that they can use for the rest of their life.

495
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: So it's not just about this game or the sport.

496
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: What you're teaching them is hard when the time, when

497
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: times are tough, the tough get going, and that is

498
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: it sounds like a cliche, but that's just the reality

499
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: of the people that make it. In the people that don't,

500
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: it's it's either you do or you don't. So either

501
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: like you say, like people, you know, someone's gonna control

502
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: your thinking or control your circumstances, tell you what you're

503
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: gonna be, or you're gonna be who you want to be.

504
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: And that's that's just the bottom line with with with

505
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: it all. Man. When you at Lock, when you guys

506
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: had that success and you started getting players, were were

507
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: their thoughts at any point in that journey at Lock

508
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: where you're like, man, I need to move on something bigger.

509
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: My talents will be already to sort of graduate onto

510
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: something else. Was there a time with that or or

511
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: would you had been contented standing a lot twenty some years?

512
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: You know, Man, that's a great question because basketball, but

513
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: it comes down to coaching. It's so political. Um because

514
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: for me it's hard because I'm a teacher, so I've

515
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: got I've invested so much time in the l A unified.

516
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm kind of you know, I'm kind of on defence

517
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: at times because I'm like, if I leave this community

518
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: and I gotta deal with starting all over with tenure

519
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: and what if I don't what if they don't like

520
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: me there? And now I get fired and now I'm

521
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: only scrambling and I left fifteen years of service behind.

522
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, at at the time then I would think

523
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: that a lot. But but the problem was that when

524
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: I say a lot, the first thing people think I was, Oh,

525
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: you were with the bad kids or you were kids

526
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: that don't listen. How would you work with these great kids?

527
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: You probably would be too tough on them. M You know,

528
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: it looked at me more as a villain instead of

529
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: an asset. So I interviewed for several jobs, but when

530
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: I would mention where I was coming from, they kind

531
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: of would kind of ton of death there to it

532
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: because they thought that I worked with gang members, guys

533
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: that you know. Even when I was mentioned to them players,

534
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: they were missing to me, like, oh, coach, we heard

535
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: about that player. We heard he had, you know, some

536
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: behavior problems. We heard about the time when you guys

537
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: had the Royal Rumba with Crimshaw. Because while I was

538
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: there in my chair, we had a water coach water Coach.

539
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: I remember the video. I remember the video. Somebody had

540
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: the video. Yeah, yeah, we had the Royal Rumba with

541
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: with we have with with Crisshaw. So I had a

542
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: lot of things going, you know with so Bob Rappy

543
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: Tayson was out there as the you know, because the

544
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: other day somebody mentioned that because we had a little

545
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: thing going on at Westminster where when the king Do

546
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: kids tried to get half and I didn't move, and

547
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: they said, oh man, and ain't the that ain't the web,

548
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: That ain't the lock web. He would have been clearing

549
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: the floor out, you know, running all over the place

550
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: for those days and past you know, so going into

551
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: some of these opportunities that I thought I shouldn't have

552
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: should have got it, I didn't because you know, I

553
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: had this reputation of, you know, being kind of like

554
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: a no nonsense, in your face type of guy that

555
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: would challenge not only uh my players, but even the opponent.

556
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: You know, when I kind of thought that they were

557
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: on the line, you know you could have you know,

558
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: you could you know, you kind of I would tell her.

559
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: You know I have problems with coaches where I would

560
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: tell them, you know, you kind of created this because

561
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: you could have kind of let you know, kind of

562
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: could have let up off. You know, you know, you

563
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: got the kids chief shotting. You don't think these kids

564
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: from the East Side go cheap. You know, you bring

565
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: that to them. You know, you bring that over there,

566
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna get what you come for. So it was

567
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: tired and that was it. You know, so you understand

568
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: how I go. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

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00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,200
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572
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: But where where Isn't it a trip? Though? That if

573
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: you take us when we grew up our era. We

574
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: grew up in the person you just described. Somebody that's

575
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: in your face, somebody that was passionate about his job,

576
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: didn't take stuff, you know, that type of I wouldn't

577
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: say disciplinarian, but that type of mentor. That was the

578
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: mentors that I grew up with, a Crenshaw that I

579
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: was around my entire life with my dad, his friends,

580
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: people here, you know, people that you know, talk to

581
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: me sternly in my face, told me the truth and

582
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: didn't pull no punches. But it's it's such it's such

583
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: a trip to see that that type of mentor would

584
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: be viewed as a villain nowadays or you know in

585
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: the future. You know that type of person now or

586
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: your personality it's just too tough. You know, you you

587
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: don't acquiesca enough. You don't like, you know, fit in

588
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: with the crew. I mean it's like, wait a second,

589
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: hold on, man, Like, do you want to what do

590
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: you want in this position? Do you want somebody that's gonna,

591
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, basically be a yes minute. Do you want

592
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna stand on his own and his awn't

593
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: own too, and believe and stand for something? Uh? So

594
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: so anyway, I find that really want I want to

595
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: talk to you about that because it's kind of off

596
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: the subject, but I want to give a different assessment

597
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: of what you're saying, and it's kind of goes to

598
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: the NBA level. Break it down, let's talk about it

599
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: real quick, because I think that it even happens because

600
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: like sometimes I think in my you know, with the

601
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: background that I have and some of the success I've

602
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: had and being around a lot of good people like

603
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: you uh eto uh d a uh like people that

604
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: have really in this basketball world. You know, they know

605
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: what's going on and know what time it is. Yeah,

606
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: are in the rooms with these people that make some

607
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: of these decisions to give people opportunities to make you know,

608
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: good money. Fact, they go to that guy when things fail.

609
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: They searched for that guy. You know, you ever watch

610
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: those movies where that guys were tired, that used to

611
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: just kill stuff like a Rambo over there somewhere in

612
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: a in a in a cabinet and just chilling. When

613
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: things go bad, they fine get him the kind of

614
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: like Boston, you know, when Brad Stevens couldn't get things

615
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: done because they're six seven guys looking at him like, man,

616
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: you ainte telling us not to control those dudes. Look

617
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: what happens They bring in the guy that can see

618
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: what seven you know, God, that's in your face. Then

619
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: on the back side, he had other issues. That's the

620
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: thing that I look at. I'm flawed. I come with

621
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: stuff and can't you accept that when I come through

622
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: that door? Are you willing to say, hey, we we

623
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: know that you do X, y Z, but we're willing

624
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: to tolerate that if you can get us to this level.

625
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot of time that's where we kind

626
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: of get that, you know, the whole down, you know,

627
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: the kind of like no, don't we get we get

628
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: lets they say they play us down. He's capable, but

629
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: this is what you have to deal with. So then

630
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: you get pushed to the left. Although I feel like

631
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: I am able and capable to do some of these

632
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: high profile jobs, I think that I still have to

633
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: work on other aspects of my professionalism just to at

634
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: least be able to tolerate some of the things that

635
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: come with those jobs. Yeah, there are things that come

636
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: with those jobs that you have to be able to

637
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: look at except and then kind of turning back on

638
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, and not have kind of like a voice

639
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: on it, you know. No, Yeah, and that's that's part

640
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: of it, is maturity, and the other part of it

641
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: is figuring out if that's you know, what you want

642
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: to you know, be involved with, Like do I want

643
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: to be that guy that spent twenty years here, turned

644
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: my head and a bunch of stuff, had to adjust

645
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: and edit my personality pretty much beat somebody that I

646
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: wasn't for twenty years, just so I can hold onto

647
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: this check, get this little notoriety, have these accolades, get

648
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: this retirement. I mean, it's just it's it's it happens

649
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: all the time. It's a choice that people make. You've

650
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: seen people O. G. S people before us, and they're

651
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna be people after us, and then everyone has to

652
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: make that choice, you know what I'm saying with absolutely,

653
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: So getting back to what you were talking about with

654
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: me being a lock, you know, when I was at Lock,

655
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: when I was getting ready to leave, was how I

656
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: got connected to who you know very much well, one

657
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: of your guys, one of your dogs that was in

658
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: the fight back then, the Maria Jones. You know, I

659
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: was able to connect the Maria with of course, how

660
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: did you get connected to the Maria. So you know,

661
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: you know another Chris saw Krueger who would probably getting

662
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: mad if I mentioned it. So I'm just gonna say

663
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: his initials on here because he he doesn't like to that.

664
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't like to take credit for things with d H. Okay,

665
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: So d H is the one. Okay, that's what I

666
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: called my neighborhood here bro find me this local talent

667
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: to me. So d H brought the mar to me

668
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: and me and the Maria, you know, we established a

669
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: really good relationship while I was at Lock, and uh,

670
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: you know he we ended up being able to bring

671
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: him over to Narbonne when I resigned, because although I resigned,

672
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: I resigned because I had a family matter to having.

673
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: My grandparents had passed apart, and that was my mom's

674
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: parents and she was going through it and I had

675
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: to be there for her family and things like that.

676
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to still be connected coaching, and

677
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to help Themorrow. So I went to Narbonne

678
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: for those three years and we had some success were

679
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, actually came with us. Remember I don't know

680
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: if you remember that. Yeah, I love it. I love

681
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: I love that team Jamal Hicks. That's it was, y'all beefy.

682
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: But for those that are familiar with Maria Da Maria

683
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: Jones went to um Or Roberts, so he and Juco.

684
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: But god, that guy's story is so was so amazing

685
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: because remember De Mario had some initial challenges academically, overcame them,

686
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: became was eligible. Was like city player of the year

687
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: just came out of nowhere. One year varsity basketball absolutely

688
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: turned it out. And then with the Juco route and

689
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: then you know, I looked then I look up. I

690
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: swear man, it was like I hadn't heard what was

691
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: doing for a couple of years and I look up

692
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: and he had grabbed seventeen rebounds in the battle. I

693
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: was like, wait, it was like, you know, Farl Roberts.

694
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: I was like, DeMar, yeah, man, one of my all

695
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: time favorite kids. Man, one of my all time favorite

696
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: kids and was a part of us. Some great things

697
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: have happened there with all the n C double, a

698
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: run with the team, you know, the first title, so

699
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: things that will always be there twenty years, thirty years,

700
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: forty years. And he got his degree. I mean he

701
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: got his degree and and about to get up a

702
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: Master's anybody to get a masters in the veggest, right,

703
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on, you don't get no

704
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: better than that story. That's the story. I need to

705
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: get his but on here because that's the bottoms of

706
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: the forties. Man to the to the top of the

707
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: hill and still and truly someone that came from from that,

708
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: straight from that without the mud mom, truly trut out

709
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: the mud dad, straight out the mud man. Lost both

710
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: of them lost still, but still kept it moving. He's

711
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: still stud tall, you know. And uh, does it give

712
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: you a special sense of satisfaction when you were able

713
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: to influence the lives of somebody like a Maria or

714
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: somebody like a Fidelist or any any of your players? Yeah?

715
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: Doesn't really? Is that why you do it with? You know,

716
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: I do. I do it for that, but I also

717
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: do it for the satisfactor. And I'm knowing that. You know,

718
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: I've always felt like you earn your stripes here because

719
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: it's temporary to get to the next level, which is

720
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, we we we know having our hell you

721
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: know you are, how you live here is how you

722
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: graduate to the next level. And I just believe in

723
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: services kJ That's why It's always loved when I see

724
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: you because your service at a point, you service to Mario.

725
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: You've helped out with his recruitment and getting them connected

726
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: to and I hope I can say this on here.

727
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: You know, of course, of course you did him connected

728
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: to laughing and and and being being kind of like

729
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: a vessel for an underdog. You know, a kid that

730
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: kind of got this service through this thing. And uh,

731
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, you motivate me because if I don't have

732
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: that connection to you, or we don't have that type

733
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: of love for each other, that never happens. You see

734
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: more guys that turn their death ear on those type

735
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: of situations than guys that are winning to chump in.

736
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: We talked about that with like guys Carl Lewis or

737
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: people turn their back on those potential great grade success stories,

738
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: then they then they gravitate towards it. And that's why

739
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm still a Kingdre. People don't know a lot about Kendrew.

740
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta say this on the air here.

741
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: One thing is you don't get a recruited Kendrew. You

742
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: get a ninth grader. So the only recruit you can

743
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: really get is a a top ninth grader, which is

744
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: very difficult to get in this air. And why can't

745
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: you get a recruit into Keydrew siver on the like

746
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: laces they go off system where if you are not Yeah,

747
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: if you have you have to have sibling credit. Um,

748
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: you have to you have to be in a cohort

749
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: as a come into school and leave the school. The

750
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: same answer. So it's very rare that you can be

751
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: a tenth grader enter the core because you missed a

752
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: portion of what they have. Whether there are better in

753
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: their curriculum being a medical magnet, wow, we don't. So

754
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: the success that we've had and I'll tell these tell

755
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: the kids, and being able to even get a kid

756
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: to be a Division one player is far very difficult.

757
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: There's no athletic period there, there's one gym there, there's

758
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: not multiple ways to develop, you know, the way I

759
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: would like to. So, so let me ask you this.

760
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: So it's a medical magnet school? Is the curriculum, King Drew?

761
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Is it? So? The ones of your players, the classes

762
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: that they're taking. It's pretty difficult in a sense because

763
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: that very rigorous. Uh damn. Most of the students you know,

764
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna definitely be academically inclined, not necessarily

765
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: athletically incline. If you can get and athletically and academic

766
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: student student in that school, it's probably a kid that

767
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have went to like Harvard, Westlake or because

768
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: that's how academically is there. You know, Like, I have

769
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: a kid there and I'm not gonna say that he's struggling,

770
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say he's being a child less if

771
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: that makes sense? Where you know, where he can go to?

772
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I would say Narva and just probably just sit

773
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: here and I'll be like, man, what are you doing?

774
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: You know? You know there it's kind of like you know,

775
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: did you do? You know? As a as opposed to

776
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: he's not doesn't have enough work, he has too much work.

777
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: He if he doesn't stay on top of it, it's

778
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna pile up and it's gonna basically overwhelmed him. You know.

779
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's difficently So tell you the story for

780
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: that is so Kirk, here's a primary example. But that's

781
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: what Kirk. When he was a senior Stanford call, he

782
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: was playing out of his mind. You know, remember how

783
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: you talking about the two hand volleyball blob. Remember how

784
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: he was this plan this, he was playing his mind.

785
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: Then we went on that state run. Well we ended up.

786
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: Then they're coming with him one game of going to

787
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: Sacramento and then the COVID hit right that hit. It

788
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: made him recruitment blow up because everybody started thinking about

789
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: the what if you know, what if this? What if that?

790
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: You know? So because they because Reggie wanted to take

791
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: him on the y not team at the time, it

792
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, well but we you this

793
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: thing don't play out. I want I want Fadellas. So

794
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Stanford called and to tell you about the how crazy

795
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: it is if Fordellas was at Washington with the Stanford

796
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: because it's transcript with a body probably been crazy. All

797
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: a's maybe a couple of bees. Kim Drew he had

798
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: too many seeds. He had a p classes but he

799
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: had seeds like man because we love to touch him.

800
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: But he got too many seeds. The school won't a

801
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: man because in order for Stanford the Gaina Scholarship, you

802
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: have to be admitting into the university. So then guess

803
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: what coach Gibb you know it sounds that Navy he

804
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: called because they were thinking King Drew. This is a

805
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: kid that's gonna have uh, you know, immacing and transcript

806
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: and touch him. That's how he ended up in north Ridge,

807
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: you know. Uh and the same thing. You know, we're

808
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: dealt with the you know, we dealt with that with

809
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Kocy a little bit. The academic rigor. You know, we're

810
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: dealt with that with You have to take those type

811
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: of classes to be take there like that. Remember how

812
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: I was telling you the core, Oh, the Core. So

813
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: you're you're signing up to take the class. You know,

814
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: can you slapping? Yeah, telling you man, it's slapping up there.

815
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: You you can play around with it, you know. You

816
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: you give your food because it's kind of like a

817
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a public private school because you know,

818
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: you got the uniform, you got the nice academic rigor,

819
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: you know, and it's and it's not in the greatest area,

820
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: but the school is safe. They have a no tolerance

821
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: for everything, you know, drugs, fighting, you know, you do

822
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: anything out of here, there's no Oh, you know, we're

823
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: gonna give you another chance. You fight, yaut It called

824
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: doing this y'all. So you know, it's just in that regard,

825
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: any kid could go there because if you don't follow

826
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: the guidelines you know you're going. So I just wanted

827
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: to make sure that I said that on this, you know,

828
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: on your show, just letting people know the success we

829
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: had has just been it's been really really a Keen

830
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: Drew kid. It hasn't been he went and got this guy.

831
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: That not not not that I'm knocking any coach that

832
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: has that, you know, amenity to do that. Fox Sports

833
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

834
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot

835
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,279
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836
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Now, we're not not we're

837
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: not knocking that. But there's also something special about developing

838
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: a kid from ninth grade on. It's spending those every

839
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: day for four years and then you guys are winning

840
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: the championship. You guys are you know, close to winning

841
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: the City Open Division championship with kids that are basically

842
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: homegrown talent, right that have that have been all together.

843
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: So there's a special sense of satisfaction to that. We

844
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: don't knock you know, the guys that go get them dogs.

845
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that. But we're big up,

846
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: but we're big up the Lloyd Websters of the city,

847
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: of the state of the country that are able to

848
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: do more with less. So and that's something that I

849
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: saw firsthand, Lloyd. So look, man, when you first got

850
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: the job at King Drew, was it two thousand seventeen seasons?

851
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: So that season, so I remember, I was doing the

852
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: real Run Fall League with d ed Linwood, and I remember,

853
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: you know King Drew. I had never heard of the school.

854
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: I knew you were coaching, so I was trying to

855
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: load you up with matchups. You're bringing through the whole program,

856
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: varsity h j V. I think, you know, maybe and

857
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: then freshman, yeah, I did. Yeah, if we were and

858
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: we were more three courts. But I what I remember

859
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: about you in that program, you had already were instilling discipline.

860
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: You guys were creating sort of a reputation, in forming

861
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: an identity for yourselves. Even back then some of them,

862
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: you know, you get blown out a lot of the games,

863
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: but then there's then later like week three, you guys

864
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: were starting to get in games. Stuff was like you

865
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: know that that that margin was closed and closed. Then

866
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: you start snapping some foods, you start knocking off, chipping

867
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: off some foods like yeah, heat over there at all

868
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: and act like, yeah, you know it wasn't because the

869
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: second week was now now heat over there. Man. It

870
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: was a great fight. That was That was man, you know.

871
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: And that's why I say, you know, a lot of

872
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: the building of the program came with the resources and

873
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: the and the networking and the good friends and I

874
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: made over the years. I don't think that that that

875
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: just suc sess comes with without having people that kind

876
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: of like appreciate what you do and they think of

877
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: you when they want good sound people to come around it,

878
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: because you know, that's a great venue you guys actually

879
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: had there, and we didn't want people that are gonna

880
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: come in and create a great environment in that venue.

881
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: You don't want people are gonna come and tear it down.

882
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: And that's what I appreciated about, you know why when

883
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: you were there and the things that you were doing,

884
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: and you and d A and Coach Crow and that

885
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: he still does. You know, those environments, man, those make

886
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: guys they understanding and then and it builds a great

887
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: reputation that will last a lifetime. And that's why I

888
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: was so adamant about getting on this show, just because

889
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 1: you know, we have a relationship man, and stands back

890
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: beyond the Marier. You know Mac Compton magic movie over there,

891
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: with with with with you, with you, with your son,

892
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: that some great things, you know. Proud of that young

893
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: man as well. Has you know, been on a nice

894
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: little journey of his um and uh, you know, like

895
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: I said, man, I just his his props. Man, you

896
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Proud of you, man, But I'm

897
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: proud of you and I appreciate that where but I'm

898
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: proud of you. Man. I wanted to just just talk

899
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: about the satisfaction man of and I know it was

900
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of sweet last year because to get

901
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: all the way to the mountaintop and then not to

902
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: not to achieve the ultimate goal. But you guys didn't.

903
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: You guys had an amazing showing throughout the entire situation.

904
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: Talk about though the kids Caleb account was was there

905
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: was there a disappointment or was there a sense of

906
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: satisfaction after losing in the city championship last year? You know,

907
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: calib Accounms is really just a special player. He's like

908
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: a once in a lifetime type of player. You know,

909
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: he came there highly touted. You know, the King Drew

910
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: and I was just blessed to have him for four years.

911
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: I just I just can't say enough about him. You know,

912
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: he's not one of those you know, you know our coaches,

913
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: they oh, he's just I'm not about to say he's

914
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: he's he does he did everything right. But I talked about.

915
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: What I talk about is like our relationship, like we

916
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: had a certain level of understandings or whatever I needed

917
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: for him to do, even if it was something that

918
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: was gonna hurt him, he knew that it was gonna

919
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: be in his best interest, so he trusted. Those relationships

920
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: are just so much better than the ones we have

921
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: to struggle with somebody because they don't believe what she's

922
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: said is true. And that's the only reason why I'm

923
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: thinking the end we had that success because I want

924
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: to those type of coaches where you say to me,

925
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: and we were in a championship, I'm gonna say to you, well,

926
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: let's go do it, and I'm gonna do everything in

927
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: my power to put you in position. So Canna put

928
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: the work in as a player, and I put the

929
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: work in as a coach, And my job as a

930
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: coach was to make those other guys believe in his vision.

931
00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: And once they realized, oh he is the one, this

932
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 1: is the way that we need to go. I think

933
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: that what happens though, And you know this as a player,

934
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: you've been in these positions. I just you know, I've

935
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: I've watched you. You know, as a player, you know, um,

936
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: somebody else has a step up. There's always another long hero.

937
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: You know, if you talk about the Lakers, you're gonna

938
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: talk about Shack and Kobe, but then you're gonna bring

939
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: up Fisher. Sorry, sorry, So I think that that's what

940
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: happened this season. We just never had another guy that

941
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: was gonna separate himself from to be the next guy

942
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: or the guy that was gonna you know that that

943
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: guys will remember him, but you gotta remember that kid

944
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: in the championship. It's just gonna always be came of

945
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: accounting what didn't happen. You know, we had a couple

946
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: of guys step up periodically, but never to the point

947
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: of where we would have been able to take that

948
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: championship without Caleb. Happened like forty or something crazy, and

949
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: then that's having a crazy defensive game. You know what

950
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: we did come back and he was capable of the

951
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: definitely capable, But you know what happened during that game,

952
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: but I don't remember. I don't remember. There was a

953
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: kid and he's gonna be really good that about three

954
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: year his name was Donald Thompson. Light skinned. Kid hit

955
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: about two three threes in the corner when he had

956
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: about end up, but he ended up with twenty. It

957
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: was a portion of the game. He probably hit like

958
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: two back to back threes and we cut it to

959
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: like probably like about eight. It was about four or

960
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: thirty four left, and Jacob came down caleus brother and

961
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: he tried to go underneath instead of kicking it back out,

962
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: and that would have put us down five for the

963
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: warning because the momentum, you know, basketball, is that moment.

964
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: They would have went down and they would have felt

965
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: that pressure as they used to say that booty get tight.

966
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: It would have ended up doing something crazy and we

967
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: would have went back and cut into two. What she

968
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: cult of the two and you gotta start like the

969
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: count you know what time? You know, that's when we

970
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: kid the whole time. All of those games came down

971
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: to the fourth quarter. He at his age, we was

972
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: down six with about three thirty left, right, I said,

973
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: you know what, man, it's been a great season. Man,

974
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: I love you guys. Garless. That little dude said what

975
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: we he was we what came out? Stole the ball?

976
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: He went down like he was gonna go to the basket.

977
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: Pomp back out, three down, came back down again, deal,

978
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: come back down down the three ball tied it up.

979
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: Now we tied up. Crowd how his own hushbold, what

980
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: just happened? And guess what that was? Like two thirty

981
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: left to go in the game and its signed up,

982
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: So it's like zero zero. Here we go. Now that's

983
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: still lay up. Step back for another three, go up,

984
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: it's over. He's start, he's around there. We do you

985
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: know we have to go over the town. Oh they

986
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: dick A J. Johnson and and the big lefty you know, yeah,

987
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: he was cold and they had another little nothing little

988
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: slicer and diicer. Oh. I'm like, man, you know, let's

989
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: see what happens. You know, they come out on fire

990
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: twelve on't run boom, they pin pinned down a j.

991
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: They crowd said, who's King Drew? Who's King Drew? Sudden

992
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: he started do you high screening? They seen anohing woom.

993
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: He started looking at them talking to the boom doing

994
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: the Kobe. The know he comes, they see y'all know, man,

995
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: I got me up six three to go. Then we

996
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: went up twelve. We got crazy. They were so concerned. Man,

997
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: we came up at a point. I mean, once we

998
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: reversed the ball, guys can just walk to the basket.

999
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: We just had guys, they just got They had like

1000
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: three guys trying to guard. He need just out there

1001
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: and then he just you know, he's a point guard.

1002
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: So he just cutting cut through the your gap and boom,

1003
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna got cutting him. Yeah. Man, that was the

1004
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: number one seed seed. But I don't think people talking

1005
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: about enough is we took out the number one seed.

1006
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: People would never really understand that cage. How difficult that

1007
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: we didn't take it. We didn't meet at the house

1008
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 1: at the house house there. They were number one seed

1009
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: and we took them out at their house. That's a

1010
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: huge win. In front of the head coach from Cow

1011
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: that's a huge win. Yeah, he was there. He's like, man,

1012
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: you got tough man. You know. I don't know if

1013
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: you know that guy used to be at Georgia. Yeah, Mark,

1014
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: Mark Fox, there you go, that's his name. That's it.

1015
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: So So how do you after last season's sort of

1016
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: just hyes, how do you come down to earth and

1017
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: prepare for this season life without Mr lacun Bro. How

1018
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: do you again get back to where you were last year?

1019
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: Win the commers in the league and then win or

1020
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: at least making fun of for the city. Man, that's

1021
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. It was tough last year. It's never easy.

1022
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's not easy. It's it's there's no but man,

1023
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: I lay my hat on what Floyd Mayweather and and

1024
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: and you know, and Baltimore Ravens and and all these

1025
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: other top top you know, teams that live their legacy

1026
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: behind defense. I lay my hat on that. I don't

1027
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: believe that you when it comes down to a war,

1028
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: it's them dudes is willing to get dirty. It's nothing

1029
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: more dairy than defense. Hardcore. You can you can, you can.

1030
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: You can turn a lot of guys off being physically

1031
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: defensively on this old school like that. Man. I remember

1032
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: Chris all games. Man. You know what, when I remember playing,

1033
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: we played the time to play Christial you know that

1034
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: would be on the schedule. I tell kids back when

1035
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: we play, we only played seventeen games a year. You know,

1036
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: I've got to get to play twenty eight. They don't

1037
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: believe that. Like if you try the kid kJ that

1038
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: you want to play seventeen games. Actually, how did you

1039
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: get to u c L A player? Don't even saying

1040
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: that's how we was hoping. That's how we was hoping.

1041
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: We was hoping. That's even team game was in blood

1042
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: like he was doing. So what I remember all the

1043
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: time is how much you heard after those games as

1044
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: it was physical. And I tell the kids all the time,

1045
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: I said, that's what people remember after the fight, the recovery.

1046
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: Think about it when you're fighting. It's when you wake up.

1047
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: That's what you said. I want to fight that dude

1048
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: no more. I hope I don't never see him again,

1049
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you don't think about

1050
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: that when you're fighting. You know what I mean, You're

1051
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: just trying to win. It's after you start saying, damn,

1052
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: I gotta not right here, Hey, I gotta no not

1053
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: back here, start feeling stuff. You didn't know, my arm

1054
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: kind of feel kind of funny, man, swinging it were

1055
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: wrong way, you know. So that's the type of things

1056
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: that I tell the kids. If it hurts, you know,

1057
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: you've been effective. That's not hurt you. Then you didn't

1058
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: do anything. You just out there going through the motions.

1059
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: If you don't hurt after a basketball game, kJ, you

1060
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: didn't do that, what did you do? Like if you

1061
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: don't feel no pain, you don't gotta scratch, you don't

1062
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: got a little not you don't got a little You

1063
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: didn't really get in the fight. Yeah, you're not doing something.

1064
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: You're you're not in the mix. And that's the hardest

1065
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: thing to tell these players. Now, you want to know

1066
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: the hardest thing it is to tell these guys as

1067
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: a coach, you can never ever ever that's your effort.

1068
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: You can't measure it. You can't measure effort because your

1069
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: effort in my effort is different, your idea of effort, year,

1070
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: your idea, you know what I mean. Like everybody has

1071
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: this perception of I'm doing hard. You are to play

1072
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,959
Speaker 1: with a dude like that, and you are not going hard.

1073
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: You are you are not. You will tell you they

1074
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: go to stop it, dude, you already know you know

1075
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: you just had to do. They used to just hang

1076
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: out right there at the top and just guard the

1077
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: top so you can take off a I'm kidding out here, Bro,

1078
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: you ain't doing nothing. You know what you're doing this

1079
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: standing in front and let the guy go by. We're

1080
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: playing all the d you know, So just saying I

1081
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: just say that the same like kids just believe they

1082
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: play so hard. Now, man, I bet you if you

1083
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: talk to some of these guys after these games and

1084
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: you interviewed them, he say, hey, let me talk to

1085
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: for hello on the on the scull of one and tea,

1086
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: and how hard you think you played? I guarantee you

1087
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna say a team. They're not gonna And if

1088
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: you tell them but I'm getting you're five, man, they're

1089
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: gonna say, are you crazy? Man? Hater? You're hating hut

1090
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: out to like Mikey or tell that to these guys

1091
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: that are Feenis Man, they think you're crazy, you know.

1092
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: And and and a lot of people will say, man,

1093
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: don't they just don't believe a lot of these guys

1094
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: play hard. You know, they just don't. I don't. I

1095
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: don't really see kids playing as hard as I used to.

1096
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: You know, I used to see kids that really really

1097
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: played hard. They may have not has been as talented,

1098
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: but they definitely played the game hard. Yeah, I can

1099
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: agree these guys nowadays, they got all the bills and whistles,

1100
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: they got the skill set, they got the between the legs,

1101
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: behind the back step back trip. But but but but

1102
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: they you know, do they are they tired? Are they

1103
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: do they have to come out? Do they have to

1104
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: come out the game because they are just going so

1105
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: hard that they just need to blow or they coming

1106
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: out the game because you know they just chilling. I'll

1107
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: tell you what. The kid, a kid that plays hard.

1108
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: H this kid, Marcus Adams out of North Bonne. I

1109
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: don't know if you see he plays hard. He plays hard.

1110
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely that that kid plays hard. Bro Man, I'm gonna

1111
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: tell you right now. And he's dangerous. And I had

1112
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: to call Coach Hill the other day and uh say, man,

1113
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: you know Coach Hill have been riding the raven about

1114
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: himself somebody right because you know he he had he

1115
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: had left it came back. I saw that. So you know,

1116
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: he'll been telling guys about him, you know, and uh,

1117
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: the E took a liking to him early, you know,

1118
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: because you know that you know He'll and the are

1119
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: pretty close, and he took a liking to him early

1120
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, you know, coach, I believe it,

1121
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: and you know the rest is history. So the A

1122
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna laugh. You know, yeah, the A already knew what

1123
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: time it was. You know what I'm saying something, And

1124
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that you know, no nobody

1125
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: has done more in the community than than d A. Man.

1126
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: Shout out the d A. Anthony Linkston. Yes, sir, the

1127
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: man big time in the community. Yeah, he loves he

1128
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: does it for the love man. He he doesn't care.

1129
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: He didn't care about anything but helping. I mean, he's

1130
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: a he's a great influence. He's somebody that we all

1131
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: looked up to, a big old g that does things

1132
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: the right way and keeps it real at the same time.

1133
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: That's what I love about d A all the time, man,

1134
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: all the time. Man. And guess what, man, all right,

1135
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: A man of his word. Facts you're not don't don't

1136
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: don't don't don't don't, don't don't go at d A.

1137
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: If you're not a man of your word, Yeah, get

1138
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: the shout. I'll tell you guys out there, man, let

1139
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: let the O g B. If you're not a man

1140
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: of your word, let the use We all let you go.

1141
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: Sure we keep that you know all right, you know, yeah,

1142
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: yeah for sure, Man, protect the a well coach Webb. Man,

1143
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time today brother to hop

1144
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: on kJ live. Man. It's been a true honor blessing

1145
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: to talk to you today. Bro. I love this conversation

1146
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: and uh, I love what you're doing. Man. I love

1147
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: the commitment that you have to teach you that you

1148
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: have to the game and that you have to catch

1149
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: to help him the next generation kids. Man, It definitely

1150
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: it definitely resonates and you we can really sense that

1151
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: you truly mean every word you say, my brother, Man,

1152
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate the conwerse kJ Man. Thanks for having me, Man,

1153
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: and you know already know, Man, I'm a sieve you

1154
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: down on line champion, Yes, sir, I appreciate you, ladies

1155
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Lloyd Webster signing off Man, much love, peace,