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Speaker 1: it even when they got some players back. Hugo Maudi

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Speaker 1: played great taking over that nickel role would blur out.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a lot of options. There are some

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Speaker 1: free agent questions. Shack's going to be a free agent.

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Speaker 1: Quentin Dunbar is a free agent. Thank you. Quentin Dunbar

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Speaker 1: is going to be a free agent. There's too many

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Speaker 1: Quintin's and Quandres and dunbars and digs us laps. It's

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Speaker 1: a confusing roster for me to just spout off anyway.

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Speaker 1: There are some questions for agency wise, but you're right,

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Speaker 1: they've got a lot of really good pieces they like.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, because it happened so early

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Speaker 1: in the year and they moved on and did well

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Speaker 1: with Ugomadi, we kind of forgot about how good Marchi's

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Speaker 1: Blair looked in training. I mean, I go back to

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. In training camp, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: probably the two most consistent, like splashy while that guy

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Speaker 1: is showing up other than you know, the obvious Jamal

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Speaker 1: Adams Bobby Wagner. Of the young guys who are really impressing,

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Speaker 1: it was DK Metcalf and Blair every day, and I

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Speaker 1: mean obviously Dk Metcalf built off that to have a

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Speaker 1: fantastic season. I think we would have seen Blair do

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Speaker 1: the same had he been healthy. So not sure how

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Speaker 1: it all fits together. We got to wait and see

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Speaker 1: who's back and how they want to use guys. But

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Speaker 1: I am really excited about the pieces they have in

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Speaker 1: that secondary. You know, when you were saying that all

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Speaker 1: the names of players and how confusing the roster is,

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Speaker 1: it also brought to mind this The player that I

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Speaker 1: wish I could have met in person and actually talked

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Speaker 1: to is Carlos Done Last. Yes, Like that's the way,

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Speaker 1: and I've done some interviews with Jamal. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I've talked to him and I've gotten to know him

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But Carlos, to me, is the one

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Speaker 1: I just want to sit down. I just want to

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Speaker 1: pick his brain and have a conversation. I just that's

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Speaker 1: my guy. That's the one that I missed out on

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Speaker 1: talking to. And not to mention he owns a restaurant,

467
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Speaker 1: so you could talk food with him. I know, there's

468
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Speaker 1: so many things. He had the best quote of the year.

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Speaker 1: The universe just wants me to win. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: got a whole list of questions that he's going to

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Speaker 1: be bombarded with. I also did not get a chance

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Speaker 1: to talk to any of the rookies in person this year.

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Speaker 1: I know the same is true for you. Here's where

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Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up our conversation. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of positive things in the organization. We've talked about the

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Speaker 1: guys that we've seen on the field. A lot of

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Speaker 1: them are veterans, but Pete Carroll says, don't overlook this

478
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Speaker 1: rookie class. There's a lot that they've got to build.

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Speaker 1: Only they liked the group. I thought that they just

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Speaker 1: found a way to be a factor and help us out.

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Speaker 1: Their spirit was really good. They were led well by

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Speaker 1: their teammates. And I say that because their attitude was consistent.

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Speaker 1: They made it through. There was no you know, freshman

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Speaker 1: dip or anything, you know, in the first time around.

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Speaker 1: You know, we played seventeen games and these guys hung

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Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing. You know. So this is a

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Speaker 1: really good group and they'll help more next year. They'll

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Speaker 1: be a bigger factor next year. And John, I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see what happens when those rookies have an

490
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Speaker 1: entire offseason that might be a little bit more normal.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what OTAs are going to look like.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that virtual meetings will still be a thing,

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Speaker 1: but I can only imagine how much more comfortable they'll

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Speaker 1: be and productive after a full season, Oh for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean we talked going back to this past training

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Speaker 1: camp how hard of a year this was going to

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Speaker 1: be for rookies, and the Sacks actually drafted somewhat aware

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Speaker 1: of that that they picked a lot of guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: other than Stephen Sullivan. It was a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: that they knew where you know, experienced guys played a

501
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Speaker 1: lot in big programs and could come in and play

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Speaker 1: right away. And we saw really good contributions out of

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Speaker 1: that group already, and a lot of guys they have

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Speaker 1: even higher hopes for. I mean, I feel like we

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Speaker 1: just started to see what Jordan Brooks can really be.

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Speaker 1: Darryl Taylor finally got on the practice field, and Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll was very excited what they saw. So there's just

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Speaker 1: a lot of pieces to be excited about, both the

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Speaker 1: guys we already saw and guys who maybe didn't play

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Speaker 1: a lot, like a Kobe Parkinson, who has a chance

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Speaker 1: to pick up a bigger role. So I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: about this class going forward, and they're gonna need big

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Speaker 1: contributions out of it because, look, they don't have a

514
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Speaker 1: ton they're working with this year, so they're gonna need

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Speaker 1: to count on maybe these past few draft classes to

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Speaker 1: fill that. Boy, yeah, I was gonna say the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: do not have as many draft picks this season because

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Speaker 1: of that trade for Jamal Adams, which we've already mentioned

519
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Speaker 1: was well worth it when you look at the impact

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Speaker 1: that he made. But you know that John Schneider is

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Speaker 1: going to work his magic somehow because there's no way

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't make some moves and there's no way

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks we're gonna let him go anywhere else. John

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Speaker 1: Schneider will be the Seahawks GM through that twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: seven draft. That sounds that sounds like so far into

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Speaker 1: the future to meet John twenty twenty seven. Yeah, it's

527
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Speaker 1: like it's hard to contemplate what that means. I think about,

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Speaker 1: like how old are my kids going to be then?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, fantastic news for the Seahawks. Pete Carroll, we

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Speaker 1: know earlier this year, signed the extension through the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five season. Now Schneider's extended that long and an

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Speaker 1: extra season on top of that. So it's great news.

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Speaker 1: Not just it's always been with Pete and John. Every

534
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Speaker 1: time you know, one of these guys gets a new contract.

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Speaker 1: It's not just about keeping that guy because he's really good,

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Speaker 1: it's what he does. It's about keeping both of them

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Speaker 1: together because that partnership has just been amazing over the

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Speaker 1: last decade plus. Now that the results they produced are

539
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Speaker 1: pretty much unmatching the NFL minus what New England was

540
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Speaker 1: doing during the Tom Brady Belichick run. But it's, yeah,

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Speaker 1: fantastic news. John Shier is not going anywhere, and we

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Speaker 1: get to see those two work their magic for at

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Speaker 1: least another five six seasons together. But it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a little while before you and I can work

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Speaker 1: our magic again on this podcast. My friend. Yeah, sadly,

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Speaker 1: I was hoping we'd be doing this for a few

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Speaker 1: more weeks. I mean we can, there's just not going

548
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Speaker 1: to be as much to talk about, and I think

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Speaker 1: NASA would like to take a break. Our producer, busy,

550
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Speaker 1: busy man. He has been very busy. He has kept

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Speaker 1: it all together and made sure that we stayed on

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Speaker 1: the air. It's been an amazing effort on his part.

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Speaker 1: It's always great to talk Seahawks football. I think we

554
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Speaker 1: should probably do this a couple of times during the

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Speaker 1: offseason to stay updated on some of those headlines, and

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Speaker 1: maybe one day we will be back to doing this

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Speaker 1: in person. And on that note, because John is only

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Speaker 1: giving me the nod, he has too. Choked up and

559
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Speaker 1: terry eyed. I thought that was your walk off, Jen.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I had nothing to add to it.

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Speaker 1: You were so good. We're two choked up and terry

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Speaker 1: eyed John just as emotional. It's emotional. It isn't Oan

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Speaker 1: Will to sign off for this edition of the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: Insiders podcast, but of course we will be back with

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Speaker 1: Hugh again as the Seahawks turn the page and get

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Speaker 1: ready for twenty twenty one