WEBVTT - Kim Zolciak DIVORCE & Sheree's BOO w/ Kate Casey

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with Kim is there are no checks and

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<v Speaker 1>balances with her. No one has ever made her responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it even predates that to her parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned, we'll be right back after these quick ads.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,

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<v Speaker 2>the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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<v Speaker 2>years a production experience. Once a week from Reality with

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<v Speaker 2>the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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<v Speaker 2>entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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<v Speaker 2>moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>rain drops. So on today's episode of Reality with the King,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lot to discuss, from Kim Zosias Debores

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<v Speaker 2>to Charae Whitfields, New Boo Martel, who just happens to

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<v Speaker 2>be on my show Love in Marriage Huntsville. So to

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<v Speaker 2>do a deep dive into all of this drama that's

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<v Speaker 2>been spewing, I had to ask fan favorite and my

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<v Speaker 2>good friend Ka Casey to join me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Kate, I have so much to talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 1>I text you as soon as I watched Real Housewives

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<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta. I'm like, I need to know everything about Martel,

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<v Speaker 1>please give it to me. And Kim stuff too. As

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<v Speaker 1>always we're like, what's going on? What's really going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So for the real house Boss of Atlanta fans,

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<v Speaker 2>the season premier of Atlanta recently aired and what you

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<v Speaker 2>all saw was SCHARAE Whitfields new Boo Martel Holt. And

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<v Speaker 2>you already know Martel Holt from my creation Love and

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<v Speaker 2>Marriag Huntsville.

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<v Speaker 3>What is his background? What is his profession?

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<v Speaker 2>Martel is from Huntsville, Alabama, born and raised. Okay, he

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<v Speaker 2>is a former football player like in high school and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think he may have dabbled with football in college,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not mistaken. When I first met he and

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<v Speaker 2>his then wife Melody, they own a business called Holt

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<v Speaker 2>and Holt Enterprises because that's his last name, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing property preservation. They had a lawnowing service, landscaping service.

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<v Speaker 2>They were serial entrepreneurs together that made lots of money doing.

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<v Speaker 3>That in Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>In Alabama?

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<v Speaker 3>And did she know him in high school?

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<v Speaker 2>They met in college?

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<v Speaker 3>Where did they go to school?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Alabama A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I'm not mistaken, Okay, so big like a football

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<v Speaker 1>kind of college, like a big time fund.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way they met, she was like the class clown.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's attracted to powerful women, like women who have personality

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<v Speaker 2>right smar if you will, right like? He loves that.

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<v Speaker 2>And he approached her, and she asked her severity sisters

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<v Speaker 2>to do a background on him to make sure she

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't dating a crazy person. And long story short, the

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<v Speaker 2>day she graduated, he proposed to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and then quickly after got married.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they have four kids again. Oh, enjoy that.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy that? Okay? Why did they break up?

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<v Speaker 2>This is where things get interesting. Raindrops. While they were married,

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<v Speaker 2>he had an affair with whom with a woman who

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<v Speaker 2>years later would become the mother of his fifth child.

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<v Speaker 2>She got pregnant while he was married.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of problems with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Did Melody know this woman? No, she was a complete stranger.

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<v Speaker 2>Like were they friends? No? No, no stranger Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>In retrospect, did she think that there were signs that

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<v Speaker 1>he was cheating?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, going to the gym, late boy, you know those

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<v Speaker 2>things would happen yep, complete.

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<v Speaker 3>Betrayal, devastation.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids must have been a wreck, did her sorority

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<v Speaker 1>sisters want to go back and murder him.

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<v Speaker 2>Melody has a tribe. So what was so interesting Kate?

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<v Speaker 2>His mother learned that he cheated on Melody and that

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<v Speaker 2>Melody filed for divorce. His mother was devastated. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it because his mom looked at Melody as her daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so how many years ago is this?

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<v Speaker 2>So the show started in twenty eighteen, I believe first

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<v Speaker 2>day of filming we heard rumblings of this infidelity. I

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<v Speaker 2>did not know that when I met them back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen. The affair started maybe a year or two

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<v Speaker 2>before filming. The woman got pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say, So this affair went on for

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying like three years?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, three years? This is devastating. What is she doing now?

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<v Speaker 1>Did she remarry? Did she find love?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she happy? Do I need to worry about her?

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<v Speaker 2>She has moved on. She's dating. She's not, from my understanding,

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<v Speaker 2>in an exclusive relationship, but she is dating. She's seeing

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who has not appeared on the show yet, for

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<v Speaker 2>all into some and purposes. She is very happy now.

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<v Speaker 2>The cold parenting thing is always going to be very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult in any situation. So they are navigating through that.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you think he cheated?

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<v Speaker 2>According to him, he felt that and again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what he said on the show. He was such a

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<v Speaker 2>faithful man and a good man and good father.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good, here we go. What's the bullshit excuse? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good?

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<v Speaker 1>You can smell it coming right, just to warm me

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<v Speaker 1>up with that is so strid, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What he said, Kate.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And he saw that some of these men that he

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<v Speaker 2>was hanging with had side pieces, girlfriend, okay, pieces right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wanted to try it. And unfortunately, in his

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<v Speaker 2>attempts to test the waters, it just became continuous.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's the KACAMEDI excuse that he gave you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the excuse that he gave the world on

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like he's not really taking responsibility for it, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if it were not for these guys, they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I had an obligation to test the waters

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<v Speaker 1>because you know how it is the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>said was, you know, I've always been a very faithful husband.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like, yeah, no responsibility, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a larning. I'm I'm really concerned about this. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>his body he was incredibly good looking.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't make him hot. This does not make him hot anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm always concerned about Charret because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>she does not pick great guys. I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the same woman who had these massive

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<v Speaker 1>portraits of herself in the first season of show that

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<v Speaker 1>she was on, where you were like, wow, Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>a level of confidence I'm not used to, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>she has that part of her personality, but then she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have enough self worth to choose somebody who really

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<v Speaker 1>respects her in the way that she deserves.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have said that, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've known Cheray for fifteen years, and I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to friends of mine who all intimated that they never

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<v Speaker 2>saw Cherae on camera conversing with a man and she

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<v Speaker 2>was so giddy and like really into him. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>get that too when you were watching it? Like, you

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<v Speaker 2>did not see that with Bob. We could not see

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<v Speaker 2>what Tom rown for obvious reasons. And even the guy

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<v Speaker 2>she would like day a little bit on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>we did not see that with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but this is the first person that is like,

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<v Speaker 1>is comfortable on camera because he's been on a TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband's never been on a TV show. He would

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<v Speaker 1>never be comfortable on television. That doesn't mean he's not

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<v Speaker 1>a great partner. This is the first guy she's dated.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, Okay, I'm comfortable with being on camera now

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<v Speaker 1>as her friend.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that you explained to me that it ended

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<v Speaker 1>with melody, I don't And this was not that long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, No, they've been divorced for two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Because four children. He's got four children. He really has

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on them and ensuring that they have self

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<v Speaker 1>esteem in the wake of their parents' divorce. He should

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<v Speaker 1>not be on a television show with another woman on

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<v Speaker 1>Real Housewives of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>This is bad news.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think the situation is bad news? Or do

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<v Speaker 2>you think he's bad news.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what I know to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I know that once somebody is on a television show,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been compromised. They are no longer the same person

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<v Speaker 1>that they were, and like a drug addict, they need

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<v Speaker 1>to fix and they need to go from show to

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<v Speaker 1>show to show to get the attention that they they

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<v Speaker 1>need it. It's like it's like drugs in their system.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like fills them up. You see it with housewives,

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<v Speaker 1>you see it on people in the Bachelor. Sure, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on the Food Network show like Eat out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Garbage. I'll do it because they want some more

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to be on TV. So my concern, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>is that he did his wife wrong. He did not

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<v Speaker 1>take responsibility for it. That wasn't that long ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's jumping to another show, and he is seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>chose someone who has a history of choosing men who

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<v Speaker 1>don't have her best interest. So given that, on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody would go run the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there is a world where a leopard

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<v Speaker 2>can't change his spots?

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<v Speaker 3>Not really.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that she should be with somebody who is

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<v Speaker 1>an executive at a fitness company, oh, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>very kind, faith centered person who is so confident in

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<v Speaker 1>themselves they would never imagine being on a television show

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't need that to make them feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they are worthy of attention in praise. They've had so

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<v Speaker 1>much success in their life personally and professionally that they're

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<v Speaker 1>at a point where they would love to be with

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<v Speaker 1>a woman as beautiful creative, kind and generous as sure,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wish for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let me ask you this because the problem that

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<v Speaker 2>some women have who are on reality television where you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to right, you're supposed to give your real life.

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<v Speaker 2>If you meet a guy and he has no desire

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<v Speaker 2>to be on television, you can talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can say that, Why can't you say that? What

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<v Speaker 3>do you think? Kick you off the show?

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<v Speaker 1>If you show up as a married person and the

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<v Speaker 1>person doesn't want to be on the show, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other thing. You can't It doesn't work. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you've been on a show and your job is to

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<v Speaker 1>tell your personal story, that's a part of your story.

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<v Speaker 1>A It's really hard for me to date because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to tellelevision show and men assume they know who

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<v Speaker 1>I am because they saw me at a dinner party

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<v Speaker 1>where I almost punched someone in the face.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a problem for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, they're a private person, they work in accounting,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a lawyer, whatever it may be. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be on television.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's your life story.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm deeply in love and I'm struggling because I would

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<v Speaker 1>love for him to participate in a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>life experiences that I have, which include being on TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not in the cards. So what do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>That is true storytelling.

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinating because the only one who got away with it

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<v Speaker 2>was Kim Zoziak with Big Papa.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but she showed up to the show having

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<v Speaker 1>an affair that I don't know, like they should have

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<v Speaker 1>pushed her that first season to have him on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how she got away with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back after these quick ads. This is

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<v Speaker 2>reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>back into the show.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with Kim is like, no, there are no

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<v Speaker 1>checks and balances with her, and it began in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>And eight, literally of fregatively checks and balances both.

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<v Speaker 1>No one ever makes and no one has ever made

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<v Speaker 1>her responsible. I think it even predates that to her parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you made her wedding special that I obsessed about,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing kind of played out. You're like, no

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<v Speaker 1>one has ever held her accountable. Pain bills is like

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<v Speaker 1>someone else, Someone's going to pay the bill for me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>she seems like somebody walks into a restaurant and assumes

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<v Speaker 1>that the restaurant will take care of it because she's

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<v Speaker 1>such an international superstar and everybody has let her get

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<v Speaker 1>away with it. And then she marries Croy and they're

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<v Speaker 1>Soca code pennant, and he enabled her from the very

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<v Speaker 1>minute they met, and now she's angry at him and

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<v Speaker 1>he's angry at her. It's like, well, you've been in

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<v Speaker 1>bed together figuratively as well.

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<v Speaker 3>No one has ever held her accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>And that began with like Big Papa being on set

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<v Speaker 1>hiding like are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, how are you paying your bills?

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<v Speaker 1>You live in this condo, you have two daughters, you

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<v Speaker 1>have luxury items on what is your job? Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>she said she might have cancer, like all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that she got away with on TV where it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, that's Kim crazy, Kim. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that would happen in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can guarantee you. And when I happened in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, the rules are different, and the atmosphere

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<v Speaker 2>of reality television has embraced that. Guess what, ding dong,

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<v Speaker 2>We're on a reality show. There's people following these reality stars,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fourth wall is broken now more than ever.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get into that. Because as we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Kim Zosiac, yes, when she first came on the Housewives

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<v Speaker 2>of Atlanta, she was seeing a man who was still

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<v Speaker 2>legally married, right crazy. According to Kim, he was separated,

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<v Speaker 2>but was he legally married? She said, yes, he was,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the reason why he did not want to

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<v Speaker 2>be on camera for those reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>What a horrible man. You're married and you have two children.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to look at yourself in the mirror every

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<v Speaker 1>day that you carried on an affair with a woman

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<v Speaker 1>on a reality show and you had the balls to

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<v Speaker 1>show up on set with a wife at home and

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<v Speaker 1>two children that looked to you for leadership. You're that's disgusting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Sorry, No, that's okay, liten it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I could not have this conversation with anyone

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<v Speaker 2>but the very happily married Kay Casey.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I'm like, what is like so disgusting? And also

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be on camera. You're you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer hiding in the closet. What a whack unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>what a Jerk.

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<v Speaker 2>Seasons one and two, she was dating Big Papa. Right

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<v Speaker 2>season three, she was dating a woman named Tracy the

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<v Speaker 2>d that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>For a hot minute. Yeah, that made no sense either.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, then season four comes around, so she's been unlucky

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<v Speaker 2>in love from her introduction on reality television. Right, season

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<v Speaker 2>four comes around, she's not but Tracy, she's not with

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<v Speaker 2>Big Papa. Charae was a part of this very local

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta dancing with the Stars type of event.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she saw him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Big Papa and Tracy seem so disjointed with when

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<v Speaker 1>you compare it to Kroy.

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<v Speaker 2>She needed something new, yeah and stable.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why and that's why these shoes are important.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like character studies. You know, we're all just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at someone's timeline and by the way, we all of

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<v Speaker 1>our own personal things were. It'd be like, what, like

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<v Speaker 1>my first marriage, like and put that on paper, You're

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<v Speaker 1>like what? And god, now, if you listen to my episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>it all makes sense. But we all do that where

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, wait, what I mean? I see it on

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<v Speaker 1>Banner Pump Rules all the time. Yeah, Big Papa Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>made zero sense. And then she meets Croy at the

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars thing, and Chara introduces her to Croy.

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<v Speaker 1>Love at first sight, but codependent from day one. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact day one, the fact that he isolated his family.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see any of his friends. Even the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that officiated that wedding wasn't his name Croy.

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<v Speaker 2>Also his name was coy or Kroy it with a

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<v Speaker 2>see he's an anchor, sports.

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<v Speaker 3>Anker, super cute cry oh ryer.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to him? Is he like not in his

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<v Speaker 1>life anymore? I feel like, almost like a cult leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim made him rid himself of the people in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>She like cuts people off. She's like, nope, you're a hater, goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>She cut her parents off, her brother wasn't around her

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<v Speaker 1>life for a while. Then he like came back in

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. Remember that episode. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>she'll just cut somebody off. If you're not giving her

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<v Speaker 1>what she needs, she'll cut you off. That's pretty scary.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, do you think the filing

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<v Speaker 2>of the divorce is her way of cutting off Froy

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<v Speaker 2>because he no longer met her needs?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I listen. I think that they're at a cellular level.

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<v Speaker 3>Was true love?

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe they loved each other, but there's too

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<v Speaker 1>much betrayal.

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<v Speaker 3>The betrayal is this, he betrayed her.

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<v Speaker 1>By not being honest about finances because he was managing

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<v Speaker 1>her career and the family's career and probably moving the

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<v Speaker 1>plates around to keep her happy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a betrayal.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not being honest with somebody in your representation

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<v Speaker 1>of them, whether you're their accountant or the spouse, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a betrayal. She's betraying him by not living on planet Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>spending enormous amounts of money, making decisions probably without including him,

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<v Speaker 1>and having honest conversations about what they could afford.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a betrayal to Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I think that she's waiting in the wings for

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<v Speaker 1>someone else wealthy to come and swoop her up?

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<v Speaker 3>I sure did. Do I think she's dating someone now?

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that there is sort of like a like a

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<v Speaker 1>theme here, which is, I don't need to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of it, someone else will take care of it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at the whole sequence of events since

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<v Speaker 1>she's been on TV, she just thinks somebody else will

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<v Speaker 1>take care of her problems, and it's like that works

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<v Speaker 1>when you're younger. To some degree, it doesn't work as

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<v Speaker 1>you get older. And unfortunately, I think those two older

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<v Speaker 1>girls have learned that, and I worry that they've learned that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel a tremendous amount of empathy for

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<v Speaker 1>them because they grew up on television.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not easy, right you have but no child

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<v Speaker 2>to grow up on television.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you have to be a responsible adult in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of like what you're projecting to your kids. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the lesson that they've learned is someone will

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<v Speaker 1>always pay the bill.

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<v Speaker 3>Ok, Ksey, I don't know what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about what happened prior to the falling

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<v Speaker 2>of the war, and then we'll get into my thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>To thank you because you got to mention the gambling,

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<v Speaker 1>because I forgot about that part.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a betrayal.

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<v Speaker 1>Gambling is a betrayal in a marriage. It is it's

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<v Speaker 1>a financial betrayal.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh one thousand percent. So prior to the filing of divorce, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there were countless articles with receipts allegedly of Kim and

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<v Speaker 2>croy home being in foreclosure. Right, So, there were tons,

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<v Speaker 2>tons of articles about that that their house were was

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly going to be auction off okay, because they did

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<v Speaker 2>not meet the payment schedule from the mortgage company in

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<v Speaker 2>the bank, so an auction was scheduled. Kkse days before

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<v Speaker 2>the auction was scheduled, they said the auction is off,

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<v Speaker 2>presumably you know, believing that Camercroy paid the necessary payment

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<v Speaker 2>slash fines for them. Then two days before the announcement

0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:07.440
<v Speaker 2>came that she filed for divorce. It was reported by

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.200
<v Speaker 2>TMZ that they owed upwards of one point one million

0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:16.200
<v Speaker 2>dollars to the I R S. Then it was announced

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<v Speaker 2>that she filed for divorce, saying that the relationship is

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<v Speaker 2>broken and cannot be prepared. A lot of people Kate

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<v Speaker 2>have mentioned that Kim likes to gamble. She has a

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<v Speaker 2>gambling addiction, right. They are also alleging that is this

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<v Speaker 2>divorce happening to protect assets from each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I did worry about that, but then I asked

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of attorneys what they thought, and they said,

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. They're in a state where they're both culpable,

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't like they both still have to pay,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's not much they could do to hide assets.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is more like you you no longer

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to serve my needs. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>financial I mean, listen, financial and emotional needs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't been on television for their show hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>on for what three years now?

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<v Speaker 2>Correct?

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I think people also forget because we're

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<v Speaker 1>normal people living in the world, and people that are

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<v Speaker 1>on television, like I said, become so consumed by fame

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<v Speaker 1>and they get these ancillary business opportunities where they'll know,

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<v Speaker 1>license things or create things, and they need to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the show to move the merchandise. They need a

0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.919
<v Speaker 1>TV show to move the merchandise. If you're on a

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<v Speaker 1>television show, you have way more opportunity to move the

0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 1>answllery products that you have created. I think she's under

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<v Speaker 1>enormous stress all the time. How do we get back

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<v Speaker 1>on TV? I remember were discussions about the Younger Daughters

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<v Speaker 1>having a show. I remember people telling me a long

0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:53.719
<v Speaker 1>time ago within network that they had hoped maybe giving

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the younger girls a show we would bring in younger viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that panned out. I mean, to sell

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<v Speaker 1>an unscripted project in the last two years two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years has been really difficult, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>better than anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, the industry has.

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<v Speaker 1>Changed, and you know you need to be on a

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<v Speaker 1>TV show to get more endorsement deals and move products.

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<v Speaker 1>That stress is getting to you and your husband, who

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<v Speaker 1>has been your manager and doesn't work as a football

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.800
<v Speaker 1>player anymore. It doesn't like the fact that you gamble,

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<v Speaker 1>is becoming less mesmerized by you.

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<v Speaker 3>She's gonna cut and run. She'll find someone else who

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<v Speaker 3>can pay the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. Okay, So let me fill you in on when

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<v Speaker 2>I saw them a year ago this month. They came

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<v Speaker 2>to my late night show the night I remember, I remember, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and Kate and separable. We were in the green room.

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<v Speaker 2>They were all over each other. I saw nothing but love. Nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing gave any sort of indication that something was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the same sort of love fat that I

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<v Speaker 2>saw years prior when I was working with them on

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>and the Atlanta Housewives. We were filming as a closed set.

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.399
<v Speaker 2>She said, Carlos, come on, Kroy has I said, it's okay,

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Kroy still behind a camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, What that's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But we talk about the code dependency relationship, and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to put up with that. God bless you because

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, you know what goes in the car

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<v Speaker 1>genre standing behind the cameraman.

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<v Speaker 3>That is, That's what I'm saying. No one checks them

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<v Speaker 3>like it's not normal.

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>He has to drive you everywhere, and that you can't

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 1>get it on an elevator, and you can't get upstairs,

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:36.879
<v Speaker 1>and you can't drink from a normal glass.

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I forgot about the normal glass.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, God, like, we're all complete.

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not complicit, but people are complicit and wildly weird.

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Behavior now because the reality stars so no, I'm going

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 2>to say this, and this is why I'm listen, because

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>you are so smart speaking as a producer and somebody

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 2>who's worked with these ladies early on in their careers

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>are reality television. One of the things you say as

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 2>producer is if they were normal, they would not be

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<v Speaker 2>on team.

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<v Speaker 3>Be on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I respect that because I just talked to Alex

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Baskin from vanderm Pump Roles and we did talk about

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.199
<v Speaker 1>you have to let the story play out, So I

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 1>do get that to some degree. However, I do think

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the problem too with these stars is that they encircle

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>themselves with people in their orbit, their hair and makeup team,

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>their talent agent, their managers, the person that runs their

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>social media, the person that picks up their shoes, who

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 1>watches their children, gets them a salad. They all tell

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<v Speaker 1>them that they're the greatest person that walk the earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that they do that's bombastic and delusional and

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<v Speaker 1>diabolical is the funniest thing that ever existed in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And therefore they.

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<v Speaker 1>Dial it up and then people on social media call

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<v Speaker 1>them in a queen and an icon and it never ends.

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<v Speaker 1>So they need someone like me and their world to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You've lost your mind, you lost the plot. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to land the plane, come back to a planet Earth

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<v Speaker 1>where we all live. Unfortunately, for Kim, that means the

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<v Speaker 1>people who work for the irs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sister, Okay, First of all, that was such a

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<v Speaker 2>drop the mic moment. But sis, it's a podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta tap it. That can you guys hear this Kate

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<v Speaker 2>drop the mic? But it's true. You know it, honey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to confirm it for you. When it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to these reality stars, not all, but some A large

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<v Speaker 2>A large sum right, okay, s um some a large

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<v Speaker 2>some of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>They are delusional. It's everything you said. They have their

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<v Speaker 2>glam squad, their talent agent, talent manager. They've got their

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<v Speaker 2>fan base, they got social media who feeds the ego

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<v Speaker 2>and the monster, and they become this person who no

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<v Speaker 2>longer has any sort of relatability to the world. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any sort of pulse to what's happening in

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<v Speaker 2>the real world, which is why when you talk to them,

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<v Speaker 2>they only talk about themselves for the entire thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of the conversation. They never asked that.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even know how to ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know how to ask you a question that

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<v Speaker 1>is the most simple, basic thing. My kids do it well,

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<v Speaker 1>and nephews do it well. They don't know how.

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<v Speaker 3>To do that. How are you today?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I interviewed the executive producer of Rock of Love,

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<v Speaker 1>remember that with Brett michaels Ary, and he said, Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to teach him how to date. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know because his dating was opening the door and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a groupie who would like, I'll give him a blowjob. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So they had to be like, you have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>a girl, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you from? Do you like soda?

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<v Speaker 1>Like basic stuff because they don't know because it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about them all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know how to ask questions.

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<v Speaker 1>So a seemingly normal person goes through life, gets a

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<v Speaker 1>college degree, works, may even start a family, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they become a reality star and all of that disappears

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<v Speaker 1>and they become this insane version of themselves who can

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<v Speaker 1>no longer ask how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your name's?

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<v Speaker 1>No, those days are gone, gone, compromised, compromised by the system.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it happens normally a little after season two.

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<v Speaker 2>It just maybe. And I'm gonna say this to y'all

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<v Speaker 2>never said this anybody. The moment you know you lost

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<v Speaker 2>a reality star forever is when they say I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>star of the show. Oh boy. They cannot come back

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<v Speaker 2>from that. They're gone. That's when you have to, as

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<v Speaker 2>a producer, say this person is so far gone that

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to end well. And listen, I can

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<v Speaker 2>promise you it never ends well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember talking to a real housewife once that said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've talked to the producer and they're building

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<v Speaker 1>the whole show around me. You know what, You're wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>And she got so mad at me, and our friendship

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<v Speaker 1>was never the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Gasp, Listen, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Normal people.

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<v Speaker 1>Their balloons are going up in the sky and we're

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<v Speaker 1>pulling down the strings. They don't want someone to pull

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<v Speaker 1>the strings down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good visual. It is true, it is true,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the reason why I look. Sometimes the reality

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<v Speaker 2>star does not last on the show for that very reason,

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<v Speaker 2>because their ego is inflated. And when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening right now and look, I will say this

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>cam who I met in two thousand and eight to now,

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<v Speaker 2>she is the same person in the sense of she's

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<v Speaker 2>always had this extreme confidence and this world that made

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<v Speaker 2>sense to her. And being completely honest with you, Kate, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's okay to be confident.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's okay to discount other people and

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<v Speaker 1>to assume someone else would do the work for you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I cannot agree. More So, what do you make

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<v Speaker 2>of the fact that Timzy's reporting that CAMERCROI are still

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<v Speaker 2>living under the same route.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have a choice. What are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to live with Rose the psychic? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's anywhere else to live and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of couples have to do that, which again is like

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the real world. This is like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>how a lot of people have to live day to

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<v Speaker 1>day the fact that they were in this situation. And

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<v Speaker 1>she would gamble and then buy luxury items and then

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody asked her about it, she'd like, you're a hater,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not leaving this house, Like there's just there's

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a disconnect there, which, again to your point, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be somewhat disconnected to sign up to be on

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<v Speaker 1>a reality show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you absolutely, because.

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<v Speaker 1>You and you and I are too plugged into the world.

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<v Speaker 1>We care too much about the people around us and

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<v Speaker 1>the after math the decisions we make. To be on

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<v Speaker 1>a reality show, you have to somewhat disconnect yourself from that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, no, one percent. And that's the reason why. One

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<v Speaker 2>thing that people don't know okay, and I would love

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<v Speaker 2>you to explain this because a lot of people are like, Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you living under the same roof when you

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<v Speaker 2>are divorceeing? And we saw some of this on the

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<v Speaker 2>Real Housewives of Miami with Lena and Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because the minute someone leaves the house, you've lost control.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole power dynamic the minute you leave, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that trickles down into the child support discussions. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like they're signaling, well, if I leave and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to move into an apartment in Mariette or

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<v Speaker 1>wherever they are, then would that apartment accommodate the four

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<v Speaker 1>younger children. I mean, it gets super complicated, so they

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<v Speaker 1>tend to stay in the same house and have this battle.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could only imagine how painful that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be for the four minor children.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so cam McRoy have four children together. And speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of custody TMZ can I also want to say one

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<v Speaker 2>last thing, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw first of all, thank you Bravo Dockett

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<v Speaker 1>girls for posting all the details and putting the timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>because it showed that he actually filed two hours before

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<v Speaker 1>she did.

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<v Speaker 2>They were racing to the courthouse.

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<v Speaker 1>He filed first, Very important to note. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>changes a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit, right, tell me what a change.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the first.

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<v Speaker 1>So it looked like because it was reported that she

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<v Speaker 1>filed first.

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<v Speaker 3>That she was the one who came to the decision

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<v Speaker 3>to divorce. That changed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's something that happened the weekend before or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever where it was like a final decision. I would

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<v Speaker 1>assume that she leaked it to TMZ that she had

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<v Speaker 1>filed for divorce. He actually filed two hours before. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a one thirty five Bravo Dockett on their

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram house. So you can go back and look at

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<v Speaker 1>all the little slides. Also in Georgia, this is bonkers. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're prepared for this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>your next project in Georgia. You could do divorce by jury.

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<v Speaker 2>We could.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't live in Georgia, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to live in Georgia right now. There could be people

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<v Speaker 1>who sit in in a jury and help decide the

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<v Speaker 1>details of their divorce.

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