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Actually, kids went to school late. 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: There's pretty much nobody on the roads around here, and 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: the FIFA World Cup draw is underway. A little bit 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: later on in the program, we might see Donald Trump 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: on stage up there, because you know, there's this rumor 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: around town that he's going to win the inaugural FIFA 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Peace Prize. If that happens, we will let you know. 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: In the meantime, we've got a lot of things to 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: figure out today in Washington. After a ruling that dropped 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: from the Supreme Court. After the late edition of Balance 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: of Power yesterday six', Three texas can move ahead with 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: its plans to redraw congressional. Maps, indeed the New republican drawn, 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: map the redistricting for next year's, election will be in. 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: Place and you know what that. Means look To, california 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: look To, Indiana, florida Even New york and other states 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: that have considered redrawing their maps because of What texas was. 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: Doing we have this story and of course a looming 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: vote next, week and we're not sure exactly what they're 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: going to vote on when it comes to extending or reforming. 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: Healthcare that's why we left the building today to go 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: up To Capitol hill and spend some time with A 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: democratic leader in The. House Hakim jeffrey is with us 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: here exclusively On Bloomberg. 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: Radio. 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 4: Listen it's unfortunate That Supreme court has rubber stamp a 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: racially jerrymandered extreme map That Donald trump Ordered Texas republicans 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 4: to engineer as part of his effort to try to 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: rig the midterm elections in twenty twenty. Six but notwithstanding 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: this adverse, ruling we're going to continue to move forward 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 4: and ensure that there is a fair map across the. 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: Country california voters Enacted. Prop fifty and as a, result 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: we'll have a fair map In california with some additional 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: opportunities to be, competitive AND i expect that you'll see 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: other states across the country continue to. 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: Respond will yours be one of? Them are you on 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: the phone With Governor hokeel today saying it's time to 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: redraw The New york? 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: Map, well The New york map has some particularities relative 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: to The constitution that won't necessarily allow it to be 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 4: revisited in this particular. Cycle but some voters have filed 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 4: a lawsuit In New york and we're monitoring that litigation 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 4: closely to see what the outcome may. 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: Be, okay there's a question about whether you really need, 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: It Leader. Jeffries after the special election In tennessee On, 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: tuesday we saw a plus twenty Two trump districts go 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: down to a plus Nine trump District and you've got 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: a lot of armchair mathematicians out there suggesting that could 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: meet as many as thirty or thirty five seats For 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: democrats in the. Midterms how do you see. 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: It, Well republicans know that if the elections were held, 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 4: today they would. Lose that's the reason Why Donald trump 61 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: has decided to engage in this extreme effort to jerrymander 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: congressional maps all across the, country and it's very. Unfortunate 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: our view is that we're not going to unilaterally, disarm 64 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: and we have to ensure that there's a fair map 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: nationally across the, board so that it's the voters who 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: get to decide who is in the majority after The 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: november twenty twenty sixth. Election part of the challenge With 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: republicans is that they've broken all of their. Promises they 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: indicated that they were going to lower, costs in, fact 70 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: or lower costs on day, one costs having gone down In, 71 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: america costs have gone up housing costs or through the, 72 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: roof grocery prices through the, roof electricity bills through the. 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: Roof and, now because My republican colleagues refuse to extend 74 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: The Affordable Care act tax, credits we know tens of 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: millions of people are about to experience dramatically increase health care. 76 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: Costs democrats are actually the party focused on driving down 77 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: the high cost of. 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: Living so let's talk about a couple of those points 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: of leverage that you just pointed, out affordability and. Healthcare 80 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: many would argue that it's kind of the same story. 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: Here President trump has been saying that affordability is A democrat, 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: hoax A democrat con. Job does that mean you do 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: not Have republicans on board with you in reforming healthcare 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: or Extending obamacare. Subsidies it appears that. 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 4: Way it's unfortunate that the president's, position which is The 86 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: republican parties, position is that the affordability crisis in The 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: United states Of america is a con job and it's a. Hoax, 88 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: no what was a con job and hoax was the 89 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 4: fact That republicans spent all of last year claiming that 90 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: they were going to lower the high cost of living 91 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 4: in The United states Of, america that they were a 92 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: party committed to addressing the inflationary pressure that The american 93 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: people were. Under that's all they talked about last. Year 94 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: but they lied to the. Voters that's the. Conjob you. 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: Lied they absolutely lied to the, voters because there's no 96 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: evidence throughout this year that they've had any intention to 97 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: actually address the affordability crisis that. Exists in, fact they 98 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: now say it's all a. Hoax but Everyday americans when 99 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 4: they go to the grocery store the, supermarket when they 100 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: see their healthcare premiums dramatically, increasing when they see the 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: electricity bills that they, have which are through the, roof 102 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 4: in part Because republicans in their one big Ugly bill 103 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: attacked the clean energy Economy at a time In america 104 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: where we have growing power needs in terms of what 105 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: we see with the expansion of artificial, intelligence it's all. 106 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: Extraordinary So republican leadership has made it clear they have 107 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: no intention to extend The Affordable Care act tax, credits 108 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: and that's very. 109 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: Unfortunate you know what The White house would, Say hold, 110 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: On Leader. Jeffries this president's been working over time to 111 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: cut deals to lower the cost of prescription. Drugs serve 112 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: credit for that. Effort we haven't. 113 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: Seen any evidence that prescription drug prices have gone down 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: in any meaningful. Way what we have seen that The 115 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: trump terrorist are out of. Control they've increased costs by 116 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 4: thousands of dollars per year on Everyday, americans and they've 117 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: created an uncertain environment for businesses and corporations throughout the. 118 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 4: Country and we know that uncertainty is one of the 119 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: biggest problems That american corporations and companies may face it's 120 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: difficult to actually make investments when you have this chaotic 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: environment that has been visited upon the. 122 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: Economy so let's talk about what you can get done 123 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: before the expiration of these subsidies at the end of the. 124 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: MONTH a bill was introduced, yesterday a framework that was. 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: BIPARTISAN A democrat and A Republican gotttheimer And. Kiggins it 126 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: would extend these subsidies for a year and put new 127 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: callers on. Eligibility is this a path to renewal in your? 128 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: Eyes, well we'll have. 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: To take a look at the particulars in the four 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: corners of that. Bill two hundred and Fourteen democrats have 131 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 4: sign in The discharge petition that will extend The Affordable 132 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: Care act tax credits for three years and give The 133 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: american people the certainty that they need in order to 134 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: move forward during these otherwise uncertain. Times all we need 135 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: are Four. Republicans they're two hundred and nineteen of. Them 136 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: all we need are Four House republicans to join, us 137 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: and we can extend The Affordable Care act tax. Credits 138 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: we also want to take a look at what happens 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: in The. Senate i'm thankful for lead To schumer And 140 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: Senate democrats who will put a bill forward next week 141 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: and force an up and down vote on an extension 142 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: of The Affordable Care act tax. Credits we're in this 143 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: fight until we win this fight on behalf of The american, 144 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: people because in the wealthiest country in the history of the, 145 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 4: world it cannot be the case that working Class americans 146 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: and middle Class americans are unable to afford to go 147 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: see a doctor when they need. 148 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: One are you in touch with The speaker of The 149 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: house On this Is Mike johnson talking to you about 150 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: a potential vote After John fune promised a vote on 151 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: healthcare in The senate Next. 152 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: Thursday you, know the big challenge With House republicans has 153 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: been that they've adopted a my way of the highway. 154 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: Approach they have zero interests in actually sitting down and 155 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: finding a bipartisan path. Forward we've said from the very 156 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: beginning of this year and throughout The Trump republicans, shutdown 157 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: that we will sit down with, anyone, anytime any place 158 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: here in The capitol or go back to The White, 159 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: house sit with The president to try to figure out 160 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: how we can fix our broken healthcare system and address 161 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: The republican created healthcare crisis that's devastating people all Across. 162 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: America they've refused repeatedly to sit down and even try 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: to find common. 164 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: Ground my conversation from a short time ago With Hakim, 165 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: jeffries of, course The democratic leader in The house Of. 166 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: Representatives if you want to see the full, interview go 167 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: to the terminal or look online At bloomberg dot com 168 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: find it on YouTube moments after we. Spoke this is. 169 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: Important The speaker of The house may not be in 170 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: touch With Hakim, jeffries but is With. Bloomberg as we 171 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: just learned this, Morning Speaker johnson is pushing to unveil 172 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: A republican healthcare bill in the coming days for a. 173 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: Vote his office says by the end of the, month, 174 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: when of, Course obamacare subsidies would. Expire we'll have much 175 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: more on this for you as we learn more live From. 176 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: Washington I'm Joe. Matthew thanks for being with us on 177 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: The friday edition Of balance Of. Power stay with us 178 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: On balance Of. 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News ahead of our conversation With 187 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: Republican Congresswoman lisa, McLain it's SOMETHING i want you to. 188 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: Hear this is a member of the, leadership chairing The 189 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Republican conference in The house and also from the critical 190 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: swing state Of. Michigan we're going to talk prices and 191 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: healthcare in just a couple of. Moments, first we want 192 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: to look at the data. Today we'll set the baseline 193 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: With Edward, harrison as consumer spending shows up a little 194 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: changed In. September we got NEW bls data today core 195 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: personal consumption. Expenditures, yes THE pce said to be The 196 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: fed's preferred measure of inflation up two tenths From, august 197 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: up two point eight percent from the prior, year and 198 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: by THAT i mean more than two. Percent so let's 199 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: get into it With Edward, Harrison Bloomberg senior strategist and 200 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: author of the newsletter you should be subscribed to right. 201 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: Now it's good to see, You. Edward we're hungry for, 202 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: data so we're poring over anything that we can, get 203 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: and in this case it's a pretty important one WITH. 204 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: Pce does this allow THE fed to cut next? 205 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 5: Week you, Know, joe interesting beta is is you've kept 206 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 5: on saying versus The august, number and here we are In, 207 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 5: december so it's all my numbers. 208 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: Are so do they know. 209 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: It doesn't really? Matter it doesn't matter because you, know 210 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 5: we've moved on from. 211 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: That it's just too. 212 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: Stale it's too, stale and a lot of things have 213 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: happened in the. Interim people are much more concerned about 214 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: was the holiday shopping? Good and is the consumer after 215 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 5: that month long pause in the in THE us government 216 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 5: is still able to continue to power THE us. 217 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: Economy so when you sit down with your everything risk had. 218 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: On are you more concerned about prices today or the 219 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: health of the job? 220 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 5: Market you, Know i'm probably more concerned about. PRICES i 221 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 5: think that the job market concern. 222 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 3: It's it's deep in the sense. 223 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 5: THAT i think very large pockets of THE us economy 224 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: or and recession because the job market is so. Weak 225 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 5: BUT i think that we still have a price, problem 226 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: and with The Affordable CARE a subsidies some of those 227 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 5: going away In, january it's going to be even more 228 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 5: difficult for a lot of us. 229 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: Consumers well that. 230 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: What pockets by the way of the economy do you 231 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: see in? Recession that's quite a. 232 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: Statement, YEAH i would say. 233 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 5: That you, know we've had the housing market at points in, 234 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 5: time insiraction office space has been in. 235 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: Recession and then also. 236 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 5: If you take the whole cohort of, people who are you, 237 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 5: know say the bottom, quintile bottom two, quintiles they've had 238 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 5: a very hard time given the price pressures that we've 239 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 5: had and also the very low growth in job. 240 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: Formation, sure we see consumer sentiment rising for the first 241 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: time in five. Months do you take heart in that? 242 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: Number you, KNOW i take some heart in the. 243 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 5: Number but if you looked at the present situation, number you, 244 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 5: KNOW i really look at it as a reflection Of, 245 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 5: okay now the you, know the the we know that 246 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 5: the government's not going to be shut down. Anymore but 247 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 5: if we looked at the present conditions, number it actually 248 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 5: went down Relative it was lower than the. Expectations so 249 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 5: people are saying that it's actually not all well and 250 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 5: good but you, know enough people from the upper quintiles 251 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 5: of the income distribution are, spending and then we HAVE 252 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 5: ai bubble as. Well that's helping to keep things. Going 253 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 5: but you, know there are pockets of distress there for. 254 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: Sure interesting when you look at the state of the market, 255 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: here we've had some shaky. Days november was not a, 256 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: Blast but the fact of the matter is it's still 257 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: been a pretty darn good year and the indexes are 258 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: not that far from their. Highs we haven't had a 259 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: full blown ten percent correction in a long. Time or 260 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: does that suggest that the stock market is part of 261 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: everything risk right now because we haven't accommodated for the 262 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: trends you're talking. 263 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 5: About, yeah you, KNOW i think that the stock market 264 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: isn't at risk per se unless the labor market weakness 265 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 5: starts to broaden. OUT i would say that the buy 266 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 5: the dipmanity is still in, effect and that what you 267 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: see from The bank Of america customer survey is that 268 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 5: we had six weeks of tech outflows and then last 269 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 5: week we had tech. Inflows so we're at a point 270 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 5: now where people feel like they've taken enough risk off 271 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 5: the table because OF, ai and then they're back in the. 272 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 5: Game the whole by the dip mentality is still. 273 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: There you. 274 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 5: KNOW i would say that there are probably two things 275 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 5: that are keeping things a little bit. 276 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: Tighter one is that. 277 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 5: Crypto is constantly creating externalities into other risk. Assets about, 278 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 5: that and then the second thing is that actually global 279 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 5: interest rates are. Rising you, know THE us is a 280 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 5: lagger in terms of the rising of interest rates and 281 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: also in terms of cutting you, know the next move 282 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 5: could be higher for many different central, banks And japan 283 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: is already. 284 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: There. Fascinating this has been an interesting couple of. Days Edward, 285 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: harrison author of The Everything risk. Newsletter it's great to have, 286 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: you as always with us here In washington On Blomberg 287 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm Joe matthew as we consider affordability and of course 288 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: the breaking news coming From Capitol hill today The speaker 289 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: of The house suggesting that a healthcare proposal will be 290 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: on the, table A republican healthcare, proposal by the end 291 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: of next. Week this is something THAT i in fact 292 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: talked about earlier today On Capitol hill with The Democratic 293 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: leader in The, House Hakim. Jeffries talked to us about 294 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: the looming deadline for the expiration Of obamacare subsidies That 295 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: edward just, mentioned and he doesn't see a lot of 296 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: opportunity for, cooperation at least not. Yet here's What Hakim 297 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: jeffries told us. 298 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: Today the big challenge With House republicans has been that 299 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: they've adopted a my way of the highway. Approach they 300 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 4: have zero interests in actually sitting down and finding a 301 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 4: bipartisan path. Forward we've said from the very beginning of 302 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: this year and throughout The Trump republicans, shutdown that we 303 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: will sit down with, anyone, anytime any place here in 304 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: The capitol or go back to The White, house sit 305 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: with The president to try to figure out how we 306 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: can fix our broken healthcare system and address The republican 307 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: created healthcare crisis as devastating people all Across. 308 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: America, now our next guest is going to disagree with 309 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: everything That Hakim jeffrey has just, said and that's what 310 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: we do here on balance of. Power we hear from 311 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: both sides of the. Aisle the important, headline, though is 312 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: That republicans apparently will have their own plan next, week 313 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: and that's where we start our conversation With Congresswoman lisa, 314 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: McLain Who's chair of The House Republican conference From michigan's ninth. 315 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: District it's great to see, You. Congresswoman welcome back To 316 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: BLOOMBERG tv And. Radio do you have a sense of 317 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: what this plan will look? 318 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 6: Like, Yeah i'm actually rather. Excited the biggest difference between 319 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 6: The democrats plan and The republicans plan is The democrats 320 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 6: want just to subsidize THE aca, credits and the problem 321 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 6: with that is if we do, that no one's premium comes. 322 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 6: Down all it does is line the pockets of big insurance. 323 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 6: Companies and WHAT i might remind everybody is this Is. 324 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 6: Obamacare the healthcare crisis was started by The. Democrats SO 325 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 6: i am excited to hear that both sides agree that 326 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 6: The Affordable Care act is anything but affordable and that 327 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 6: it needs. 328 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 7: Revamping and that's what we're. 329 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 6: Doing we will focus more on driving down actual premiums 330 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 6: one and two giving people. Choice so if they get a, 331 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 6: subsidy do they have to can they only use that 332 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 6: subsidy for the unaffordable healthcare or can they use it somewhere. 333 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 6: Else so the main differences are we are really truly 334 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 6: focused on driving premium costs, down not subsidizing large insurance. 335 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: Companies understood what you're saying in, principle But i'm curious 336 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: what happens in the immediate term. Here there was a 337 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: bipartisan bill introduced yesterday That i'm sure you know plenty about. 338 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: It we talked to it about it WITH. Hakem jeffries this. 339 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: Morning The Gotttheimer kiggins bill would actually Extend obamacare subsidies 340 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: for one year while also reforming the plan to add 341 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: some callers around. Eligibility, well we need to see a 342 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: plan something like that so there's not this so Called 343 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: obamacare cliff or healthcare cliff that's looming at the end 344 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: of the. 345 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 6: Month, yeah, listen we want to make sure that everybody 346 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 6: who wants to keep Their obamacare plan can keep Their 347 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 6: obamacare plan and that it's. Affordable, right we both, agree 348 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 6: and both sides agree on. Affordability BUT i think you're 349 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 6: going to see we have a menu of, options and 350 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 6: what we're going to have to see is how do 351 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 6: we thread that needle to make sure that premiums are, 352 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 6: down that things are, affordable and that we eliminate the 353 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 6: waste of fraud and. Abuse BECAUSE i do believe that 354 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 6: both sides also agree that somebody making six hundred thousand 355 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 6: dollars a year doesn't really qualify for the subsidies or 356 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 6: the tax. Credits so that's what we're focused on working. 357 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 6: ON i am an optimist by, nature And i've been 358 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 6: in those meetings with The speaker and with the heads 359 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 6: of our, committees and you will see a plan that 360 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 6: will be put on the. Floor there's going to be 361 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 6: a lot more work to be, done but it will 362 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 6: be a good. 363 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 7: Start. 364 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 2: Fascinating, president while we're talking about, affordability says he's got 365 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: an issue with that. Word he calls it A democrat con. 366 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Job what does he? 367 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 6: Mean, yeah, WELL i think if everyone were to take 368 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 6: a look at what got us, Here let's take a 369 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 6: look at the past four. Years Under, biden inflation was sky, 370 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 6: high you, know upwards of nine. Percent it's down now 371 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 6: less to three less than three. Percent he shut off 372 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 6: all of the oil and gas in The United states 373 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 6: made that more. Difficult so if we talk about the affordability, 374 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 6: crisis the root of, that not to mention the trillions 375 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 6: of dollars that His Inflation Reduction act put in place 376 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 6: and insurged into the. Economy it made things very, unaffordable 377 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 6: and we are in a recovery period now AND i 378 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 6: think you see progress on that. Right gas prices are, 379 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 6: down heating prices are, down mortgage rates are, down so we're. 380 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 6: Beginning inflation is, down so we're beginning to. Recover not 381 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 6: to mention what's going to happen in twenty. Six if 382 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 6: you listen To Scott, bessant WHICH i happen to agree, 383 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 6: with the economy will be jumped started with higher, wages 384 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 6: no taxes on, tips no taxes on, overtime you, know 385 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 6: less taxes on Social. Security those are all positive things 386 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 6: that puts more money in the people's pockets and drive wages. 387 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 6: Up that's all a positive positive while while avoiding the 388 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 6: largest tax crease in history with the working family's tax. 389 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: CUTS i want to hit you in your backyard, Here. 390 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 2: Congress i'll want to talk cars while you're with. Us 391 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: The trump administration has begun the process of easing, economy 392 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: fuel economy, requirements cafe standards as they're called for new. 393 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: VEHICLES i believe he were standing right next to him 394 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: in The oval office when this was announced just the other. 395 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: Day and that's not the only thing that he. Announced, 396 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: Congressman let's go to The White house and listen to 397 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: The president from earlier this. 398 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 8: Week my administration has taken a sorc action to lower 399 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 8: costs For american, consumers Protect american auto, jobs and make 400 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 8: buying your car much more affordable for Accountless american. 401 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 9: Families and also, say for gist about everything is. Dad 402 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 9: you know this whole thing is they use the word. 403 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 9: Affordability it's A democrat. Hoax they're the ones that drove 404 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 9: the prices. UP i think affordability is the greatest. 405 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 8: Conduct when they use the word, affordability they never say anything. 406 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: Else you were standing right next to them at that. 407 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: Event what are you hearing from automakers in your? State 408 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: what Does Mary barras? Say what Does Jim farley say 409 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: about the cafe? Standards they were all in town as 410 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: part of. This will this in fact lower the costs 411 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: of a? 412 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 7: Car, yeah listen to what the automakers. 413 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 6: Say the people that actually are building the, cars they 414 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 6: are extremely excited about it because it's less regulation and 415 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 6: it makes the car more affordable for the Average. American 416 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: there IS i think roughly about sixteen to seventeen thousand 417 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 6: dollars per employee that these automakers are spending because of 418 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 6: regulation in the more regulation you put on manufacturers on, 419 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 6: people that's passed right down to the. Consumer so they're 420 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 6: excited on. Twofold one that they can produce the automobiles more, 421 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 6: affordable and two that they produce an actual automobile or 422 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 6: a product that people want to. Buy so they're extremely 423 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 6: excited about. It don't take my word for, it take. Theirs, well, Okay. 424 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: SO i want to pick up on something you just, 425 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: said BECAUSE i always hear That americans want to buy big. 426 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: Cars we love our, SUVs we love our f, one. 427 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: FIFTIES i can't even park in the garage half the 428 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: time because there's so many big trucks down. There congresswoman 429 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: the president on truth social, though and he talked about 430 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: it in the oval with you the other. DAY i 431 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 2: have just approved tiny cars to be built In, america he. 432 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: Says manufacturers have long wanted to do, this just like 433 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: they are so successfully built in other. Countries he says 434 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: they can be gas electric or, hybrid very near, future, inexpensive, 435 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: safe fuel, efficient and he, says quite simply. Amazing start building. Them, 436 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: now what are these tiny cars that are? 437 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 6: Coming, YEAH i haven't seen the tiny, cars BUT i 438 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 6: think what The president's trying to do is actually give 439 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 6: the consumer, choice The american people. Choice if you want 440 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 6: a big f one to fifty and have. One if 441 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 6: you want to drive a, small tiny, car you have 442 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 6: that opportunity and you have that choice as. Well no 443 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 6: different than if you want to buy an electric car 444 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 6: or high bred car you. Can but if you want 445 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 6: a gas powered engine you can. 446 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 7: Too so we are all, about and The president is all. 447 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 6: About we don't want to tell you what to, do 448 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: when to do, it how to do. It we actually 449 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 6: believe in people and people can make the right. Decision 450 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 6: we don't need big government telling us what to do 451 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 6: and what to buy and how to buy. 452 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: It i've got you pegged For i'm just blue sky in, 453 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: here escalade. Driver what do you have in the garage? 454 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: CONSOLE i haven't in the state Of. 455 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 6: MICHIGAN i have an OLD Gmc. Yukon that's WHAT i. 456 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 6: Drive and it's great driving A. 457 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: Yukon. 458 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 10: Yep. 459 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 7: YEAH i have four. 460 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 6: Kids and they all have, spouses so when we all get, 461 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 6: together it's a good vehicle to put the whole family. 462 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: In you can't drive that thing Around New. YORK i 463 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: mean you, can't but good. Luck while you're out. There 464 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: it's great to have you back with us live From 465 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: world headquarters In New. York That's Congresswoman lisa, McLain who's 466 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 2: chair of The House Republican. Conference we've heard From Hackeen, 467 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: jeffreys The democratic leader in The, house now the woman 468 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: who runs The Republican. Conference to give you a sense 469 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: of exactly what the conversation is. Like next week's going 470 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: to be a. Doozy we could have a vote in 471 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 2: The senate on A democratic health care. Proposal we'll get 472 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 2: a look at What republicans have up their sleeves as. 473 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: Well that's why we do this every day live From. 474 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: Washington I'm Joe. Matthew this Is BLOOMBERG tv And. 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Center and, Yes President trump 485 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: is in the. Box we also in fact saw the 486 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: leaders Of canada And mexico. There they're all up on 487 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: the screen at the same time. Smiling maybe this is 488 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: the salve we need for trade in the. Hemisphere but 489 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: a short time from, now we understand that the INAUGURAL 490 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: Fifa Peace prize will be. Awarded he was asked on 491 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: the way in because you've seen the, stories, right this 492 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: is supposed to go To Donald. Trump he was asked 493 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: on the red carpet if he was hoping to win 494 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: the prize or if he had been. Told he said 495 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 2: there's no. Hope he would just be. Honored in, fact 496 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: went on to, SAY i don't need prizes just to save. 497 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: Lives the pool is in the room. There when he 498 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: gets on, stage we'll show it to you as we 499 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: keep tabs on the latest here big questions about redistricting this. 500 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: Morning after a late call by The Supreme court last. 501 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: Evening this dropped after the late addition to balance of. 502 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: Power right when you Thought texas had to put the map, 503 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: down THE Us Supreme court has cleared the state to 504 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: use its New republican drawn congressional, map the one urged 505 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: By President trump for next year's midterm, elections lifting a 506 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: lower court ruling that had blocked the. Map, now this 507 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: is of course the effort that that took place In, 508 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: texas that Prompted california to Pursue prop, fifty that prompted 509 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: many other states to start doing the, Same red states 510 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: in blue states trying to push back with our own redrawn. 511 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 2: Maps so we still don't have a real sense of 512 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: exactly what the country is going to look like when 513 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: it comes time to, vote nevermind launch a political. Campaign 514 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: it's a six' three. Ruling here it's one that we've been. 515 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: Waiting for and it's only where we begin our conversation 516 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: because we have a lot to talk about with Constitutional attorney, 517 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: robert McWherter practicing, criminal defense civil Rights Lawyer, Americopa, county 518 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: arizona back with us here Live, On bloomberg, mister micwherter 519 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: it's great to, see you. Welcome back it's open season then, for, Redistricting, 520 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: right oh it looks. 521 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 11: Like it it's very interesting what the court does and 522 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 11: some of the liberal justices seem to go along. With 523 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 11: this it looks like there's going to be a reworking 524 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 11: of the law related to racial. Jeremi mandering Remember The supreme, 525 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 11: court said regardless of how many voters, you disenfranchise you 526 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 11: can politically jerimander all over. THE place i think that's terrible, 527 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 11: for Democracy and i'd like a court some day to 528 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 11: really look at that issue or relook. At it, but 529 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 11: always racial germandering has been violative of The fifteenth amendment 530 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 11: In The Voting rights act to nineteen, sixty. 531 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: Six so. 532 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 11: They seem to be signaling that they're going to relook 533 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 11: at that law related. To that in, The meantime texas 534 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 11: the new map seems to be back. In place. 535 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: Does this allow every other state to do what? It, 536 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: wants california, for instance is being challenged even though it 537 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: put the vote this idea to a vote. Before voters 538 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: but does there at least a half dozen there's states 539 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: that are thinking about. Doing this do they just? 540 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: Plow? 541 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: AHEAD now i think they just. 542 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 11: PLOW ahead, i mean you can't argue That what, california 543 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 11: did which is also bad, for voters REALLY and I 544 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 11: think california recognizes it because they want to dial that 545 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 11: back after this whole election cycle. Is OVER after i 546 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 11: think it says three years in that resolution it is bad. 547 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 11: For voters but you can't now say That what california 548 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 11: is doing at excuse me as political jeremandry is somehow 549 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 11: bad after you've just given the stamp of Approval to 550 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 11: Texas Political. 551 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: Jeomandry elena kagan writes, today's order this serves the Millions 552 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: of texans whom The district court found were assigned to 553 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: their new districts based on. Their race this is not 554 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: so cut and dry when you add the, Racial, component 555 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: Robert and i'm glad that you brought. This up it's 556 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: still back to the drawing, board, Here, RIGHT oh i 557 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: think very. 558 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 11: Much so and again we're going to have to see 559 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 11: how this plays out in. The court but what you 560 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 11: have is a majority on the court that is not 561 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 11: open to the issues that courts used to be sensitive 562 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 11: to about racial discrimination. And voting remember that the great 563 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 11: cases that came out about racial equality had mostly to 564 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 11: do with voting From the warrant court from the, nineteen 565 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 11: sixties and this seems to be a court that's trying 566 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 11: to dial. That back and they also seem to have 567 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 11: this fiction that we don't have racial problems in this, 568 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 11: country anymore and that people are discriminated and voting on 569 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 11: the basis. Of race so on the basis of, that 570 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 11: fiction they seem to be going forward, And, saying okay 571 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 11: we don't need this fix that The fifteenth amendment clearly says, 572 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 11: is constitutional and so they're just kind of reread all. 573 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 11: Of THAT and i find that very very sad. And 574 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 11: disturbing but at least with, this court there's not much 575 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 11: you can do. 576 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: About, it well let's talk about what's happening meantime In, 577 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: the caribbean because there are a lot of questions about 578 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: legality surrounding what we're now all calling the double tap 579 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: strike against this alleged drug boat coming Out. Of venezuela 580 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: it depends on who you talked to, On. This robert 581 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: if you talk To a republican in the, briefing yesterday 582 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: they're probably going to tell you THAT the us. Acted 583 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: legally that's Certainly What tom. Cotton said he called the, 584 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: STRIKES righteous i believe was the term that. He used 585 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: democrats meantime, are outraged and there are big questions, about 586 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: whether in fact we can put the idea of a 587 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: war crime aside, For now but in fact are conducting 588 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: an illegal operation off the Coast. Of venezuela how do you? 589 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 11: See, this well, You Know senator cotton can call, things 590 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 11: RIGHTEOUS but i note he didn't say it. Was legal 591 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 11: he may think, it's righteous and that's a, political statement 592 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 11: but whether it's legal is a whole. Different THING if 593 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 11: I Was, Pete hexth i'd be getting pretty nervous under 594 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 11: the call it, right now because it looks like what 595 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 11: is clearly shown is that there were survivors clinging to 596 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 11: this boat and they went back and did another strike 597 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 11: to just. Kill people and by, the way they presented 598 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 11: no evidence that this boat had drugs in the. FIRST place, i, 599 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 11: mean look the normal course Is the coastguard has always 600 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 11: operated In. The caribbean they often grab boats that are 601 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 11: drug traffickers and if those, boats existed they were more 602 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 11: than happy to display the evidence as a justification for 603 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 11: the arrest and seizure of. The boats this is just 604 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 11: wanting to blow things up with. No evidence that's the. 605 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 11: First problem but then, going back there's a whole series 606 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 11: of rules. On this and by, the way this goes 607 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 11: Back To World. War Two But grand amodornits Of The 608 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 11: german briegsmarine ordered basically or sent out an ambiguous order 609 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 11: that was clear to his, submarine captains did not help 610 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 11: any survivors of the boats that were being torpedoed Well. 611 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 11: At nuremberg after, the war that was considered a war 612 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 11: crimes and Under The War crimes act in nineteen, ninety 613 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 11: Six which congress passed a violation of. International law in, 614 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 11: this Case The geneva convention is now Prosecutable under american 615 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 11: law in. Federal Court The justice department has to, do 616 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 11: it And Obviously pam bondi's probably not going to. Do 617 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 11: anything but there's Something that peach really, worried about and 618 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 11: that is there is no statute of limitation. On this 619 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 11: it's a murder on the, high seas and he can 620 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 11: be prosecuted under another administration twenty thirty years from now 621 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 11: if it takes. That, long So If, I'm pete i'm getting, 622 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 11: pretty nervous as should the admiral order. 623 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: To, Strike, okay so but that would also suggest the 624 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: buck stops With The. Defense secretary i'm going to hold 625 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: you right there for, A, minute robert because we've got 626 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: breaking news down the street At The. KENNEDY center i 627 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: didn't see this would come in THE Inaugural Fifa peace 628 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: prize Goes TO. Donald. J trump this is a. Live 629 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: shot you might be listening to us on. The radio 630 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: he's walking out on stage, right now and there is 631 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: there is. The trophy this is. Quite remarkable they were 632 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 2: just playing a sizzle REEL The Fifa. Peace prize, all 633 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 2: right where's is there a red hat? On That but, 634 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: i'm sorry we just need to keep the the newsflow 635 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: as it's. 636 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: Going. 637 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 2: Here, okay so if you're the admiral and there were 638 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: pre existing conditions set By The defense secretary that were 639 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: outlined In The New, york times he just put the metal. 640 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 3: On himself. 641 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: These conditions dictated how to handle a scenario, like this 642 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: and if in fact the individuals, were, shipwrecked incapacitated no 643 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: longer considered in, the fight they would. Be Rescued, and 644 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 2: robert that's what we have done since that, first strike? Isn't? 645 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: It? 646 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 12: Oh yes but this. 647 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 11: Is, different Look, THE admiral i think is potentially looking 648 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 11: prosecution Under The uniform Code Of. Military justice you Did Mention. 649 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 11: DONALD trump. I don't i'm Not Sure donald trump gets 650 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 11: a pass on. 651 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 3: This. 652 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 11: Either wow you Know The supreme Court granted trump broad 653 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 11: immunity for any. Official acts but we do Have The 654 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 11: War powers resolution from nineteen, seventy three which drastically limits 655 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 11: the power of the president to fight an. Undeclared war 656 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 11: and this is an. Undeclared war, in fact it doesn't 657 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 11: even fit the definition of, a war regardless of what 658 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 11: people like to say WITH. The bred so it's not 659 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 11: beyond the realm of Possibility That donald trump can be 660 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 11: prosecuted for this, as well depending on where the. Order 661 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 11: emanated and as this, PLAYS out i think you're going 662 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 11: to see a lot of people throwing each other under 663 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 11: the bus on, this issue from the admiral To The 664 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 11: secretary defense To, the president, all, saying oh it, wasn't 665 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 11: me and they're already starting to lay the groundwork. 666 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: For. 667 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: That Amazing the president has indicated said so In The 668 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: oval office that he supports the public release of. That 669 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: video so. We'll see maybe we'll be talking about this 670 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: together at some. Point, Soon robert i'm down to our final. 671 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: MINUTE here i don't know if you're buying the Dip 672 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 2: on netflix, right now but we've got a massive merger 673 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 2: we're talking, About here Netflix Buying. Warner brothers is this 674 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: going to pass muster. With regulators well it. 675 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 11: SHOULD not, i mean this is huge and it affects the. Consumer, 676 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 11: greatly look there's a couple of things to keep. In Mind, 677 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 11: number one it has to go through the federal anti. 678 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 11: Trust process the importunate part about that, is basically if 679 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 11: there's people sucking Up To, donald trump he's going to 680 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 11: exert pressure to get this. Proved federally but there's another 681 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 11: thing to, look at and that is states all have anti. 682 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 11: Trust laws and if you, may recall in the year, 683 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 11: twenty nineteen it was the states that prevented the Merger 684 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 11: between SPRINT And. T mobile so Even If donald trump 685 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 11: exercises his, undue influencer somebody Gets to trump and wants to. 686 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 11: Approve this typically he'll file a lawsuit and then they'll 687 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 11: settle lawsuit in, his favor and then he lets the merger, 688 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 11: go through and then he claims he won a lawsuit 689 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 11: against the. News outlet, well yeah but they have to 690 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 11: worry about all the different states attorneys generals, as well 691 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 11: because this affects every consumer in. Every STATE and i 692 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 11: can't sit there on my couch at night and get 693 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 11: a nice inexpense movie anymore Because of andy. 694 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: Trustmay, right wow so a lot of lawyers are going 695 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: to make a lot. Of money it Sounds like. Robert 696 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 2: macwherder it's great to have. You back let us know 697 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: when you're Coming to washington for crying. Out loud constitutional 698 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: law attorney practicing criminal defense and civil rights lawyer covering 699 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 2: the waterfront with us here On the. Friday edition we'll 700 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: have much more news straight ahead here and we'll a 701 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: semble our political panel coming up next Only, come bloomber 702 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: stay with Us on Balance. Of power we'll have much 703 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: more coming up. After this. 704 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: You're listening To The bloomberg Balance of. Power podcast catch 705 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: us live weekdays at noon and Five pm Eastern, on 706 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: Applecarclay And android auto With The Bloomberg. Business app listen 707 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,959 Speaker 1: on demand wherever you get, your podcasts or watch us live. 708 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: On YouTube it's a snow, day today kids went. To 709 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 2: school lights no still. Coming down as a matter, of 710 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 2: fact as we are reminded that winter is upon us 711 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: and quite the festivity underway down the street At The, 712 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: kennedy center the building That the president envisions someday being 713 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: Called The Trump. Kennedy center he is the chairman of. 714 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 2: The board, now right IT'S The Fifa world cup draw that's. 715 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: Underway now and if you were with this a short, 716 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: time ago you heard the, breaking news the headline On 717 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: The New york times Here as Trump Covets Nobel, PEACE 718 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: prize fifa cozies up to him with its. Own, award, 719 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 2: well now how did they know that this? Came out 720 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: what time? This morning this came out just. After midnight 721 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: it's almost as if everyone knew what was going to. Take, 722 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: Place Yes donald trump won THE Inaugural Fifa peace prize 723 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: a short time ago when he was asked about it 724 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: On the red carpet when he was. Walking, IN listen 725 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 2: i can TELL you i. 726 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 8: Did settle, eight wars and we have a, ninth coming 727 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 8: but in which nobody's ever. 728 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: Done BEFORE but i want to really. 729 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 12: SAVE lives i don't. 730 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 2: NEED prizes i need to. 731 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 3: SAVE lives i was saving a lot. 732 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 8: Of lives i've saved millions and millions, of lives and 733 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 8: that's REALLY what i want to. 734 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: DO prizes i just want to. Save lives this is 735 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: where we start with our political. Panel Today bloomberg politics 736 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: Contributor and Republican Strategist rick davis is with his Partner 737 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: At Stone Court capital we're also joined by Ymss Egg, 738 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 2: by waally a former chief of staff advisor To The Biden, 739 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: white house our, democratic strategist Founder Of. Podium strategies it's 740 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 2: great to have both of you with us. 741 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 10: And. 742 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 2: Welcome ricky didn't see, this coming, Did, You. 743 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 10: Yeah Hard, NEWS friday i can tell this was really 744 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 10: a big shock and surprise. To everybody, you know at, 745 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 10: That event president shows up for BASICALLY The fifa draw 746 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 10: and which is it's got to be the First time 747 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 10: american president's ever TENANT Of fifa draw and just happened 748 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 10: to be there when the award. WAS announced, i mean, 749 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 10: you know imagine the coincidence of him being there to 750 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 10: accept this award. 751 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 12: In person, so. 752 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 10: Yeah, congratulations look the one talking POINT that i completely 753 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 10: Embrace Of, donald trump's and he says it, a lot 754 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 10: so it makes me happy is that he wants to 755 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 10: stop wars and he wants to. Save lives there is 756 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 10: no downside, to THAT and i applaud. His efforts and 757 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 10: if it's gone recognized BY the, fifa. 758 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 12: Group great we. 759 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 10: Look forward to having them all here spending lots of 760 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 10: money in twenty twenty six watching their version. 761 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 2: Of football the headline on the screen if you're with us, 762 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 2: On YouTube TRUMP Wins Fifa, peace prize and so here. 763 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 2: We are Does the president Of The united states deserve 764 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: a little credit as he says he's stopped? Eight wars 765 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: is that how you? 766 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 13: SEE this i DO see fifa as a soft power 767 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 13: moment for. THE president i think his congenial RELATIONSHIP with 768 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 13: fifa has been beneficial to him on a. GLOBAL scale, 769 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 13: i mean at the same time that he's enacted tariffs 770 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 13: on our allies that have put us at odds with 771 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 13: some of our. 772 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 14: Longest serving countries that we've been. 773 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 13: Partnered with this is really the time where he gets 774 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 13: to globally piece people. Back together but remember he's doing 775 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 13: it at a time where the backdrop is domestically in, 776 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 13: this country immigration is a. Huge issue and at the, 777 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 13: same time when you overlay it with the fact that 778 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 13: he has threatened to remove games from cities that he 779 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 13: deems Unsafe for americans and our, fellow visitors it's all 780 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 13: a bit of a swirl happening. 781 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: For him well to swirl Or we've what do you 782 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 2: think though about what you first said there With the 783 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 2: president Of The united states in this Room with Carnie. 784 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: And shinebaum could, this event which is, you know MADE 785 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 2: for tv and made for, the president actually bring world? 786 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 13: Leaders, TOGETHER yeah i think this event could help folks 787 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 13: feel a bit more confident in. 788 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 14: HIS leadership, i mean. 789 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 3: He pulled the. 790 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: Hemisphere together we've been at odds with. Our, neighbors Yeah, 791 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: in mexico Maybe. 792 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 13: The canadians will come down have a little bit of fun. 793 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 13: WITH us, i mean he is right that his focus 794 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 13: has been, foreign pop but that is to the chagrin 795 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 13: of a lot of people who first elected him based 796 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 13: on the fact that he was going to focus on 797 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 13: domestic issues happening here and put in, A Sense. 798 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 14: America FIRST so i think the. 799 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 13: Challenge for him and his team is how does he 800 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 13: promote the fact that he is this global leader while 801 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 13: at the same time reminding his core base that he 802 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 13: still believes in the Values Of. 803 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 2: America first as it was asked, about this, you know 804 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: knowing that the Leaders of Canada and mexico we're going 805 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: to be in, the room, of course and taking part 806 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 2: here in, the draw Though producer james tells me there 807 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: has yet to be a single team. Drawn yet it's 808 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 2: been going on for almost. An hour here's What the 809 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 2: president said, about. 810 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 8: That how do you need to work pay announced that 811 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 8: the tensions you Have with Canada. 812 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: And, MEXICO oh i think it's going to make it. 813 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: More exciting tension is a. 814 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 3: Good, THING. 815 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 12: Yeah i. 816 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 2: THINK so i think it makes it much. 817 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 8: More exciting. 818 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: That was Back. In, March rick is? He right tension 819 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 2: makes this all. More, EXCITING. 820 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 10: Yeah a little tension never hurt anybody draws attention to 821 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 10: the event itself and. 822 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 12: The events and it will be interesting to. 823 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 10: See How The tripartheid games events being Held in Mexico 824 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 10: and canada And The united states. 825 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 12: Get along Does the president use. 826 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 10: His somewhat controlling capability on where events are going to 827 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 10: occur to put leverage on these two to come up 828 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 10: with A new. Mca agreement. Who knows it'll be all 829 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 10: very interesting and get lots of press coverage and certainly 830 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 10: going to give us plenty to talk about between now 831 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 10: when the. 832 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: Games, kickoff well they are going on stage together. Right 833 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: now maybe they'll actually do the, drawing here but they're sharing. 834 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 2: A stage this has got to be a positive moment 835 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: for international relations in trade with. Our neighbors, Of, course 836 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 2: carney if you're with us, on YouTube You see carney 837 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 2: on the, Right there shinebaum in, The Center president trump 838 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 2: on stage with, of Course, mister infantino who's having a 839 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 2: big day Here, IN. WASHINGTON. Dc ms you mentioned the 840 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 2: president's threat to start moving games out of cities that 841 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 2: were played, with crime as he. Puts it he was 842 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 2: asked about that on the red carpet, this morning tried 843 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 2: to back away from. Those comments you don't think that's 844 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 2: something he has planned, to, YOU. 845 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 13: No i mean the folks that have been working on 846 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 13: this From the american SIDE, for fifa have worked on 847 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 13: the logistics for, the arenas. FOR staffing, i mean at 848 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 13: a time when we are talking about immigration right, like 849 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 13: this our immigration policies are going to impact, temporary workers 850 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 13: workers that are needed for surging staffing for all of 851 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 13: these arenas Across The. UNITED states, i mean to move 852 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 13: these games anywhere would just show, an instability and showing 853 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 13: instability right now is not something he wants to do 854 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 13: right like WORKING with fema is his reach towards a 855 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 13: form of. Normalcy here so he's got to just continue 856 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 13: to show. Some stability no quick. 857 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 2: Draws here some of the preparations that we understand have 858 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: been complicated By the president's, migrant crackdown stricter. Visa, rules 859 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 2: rick how do we rationalize all of these priorities at 860 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 2: once from? This administration. 861 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 12: It's hard to reconcile a lot. 862 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 10: Of them they seem to run in in conflict with 863 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 10: one another from time. 864 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 3: TO time a Lot of. 865 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 10: Hispanic sports enthusiasts in. This country are they going to 866 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 10: show up at a Stadium if ice is standing in the? 867 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 10: Parking lot that certainly wouldn't. Be unusual ice have shown 868 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 10: up in baseball parking lots and football parking lots that's. 869 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 12: Right before so it should make. 870 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 3: It stressful is this Good? 871 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: For america you're for to. Sooft power what are we 872 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: getting for this other than maybe some. ECONOMIC stimulus, i. 873 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 14: Mean this is Really putting america on the. 874 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 13: WORLD stage I, regretfully nigeria where my, family's from as 875 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 13: once again not qualified For The. 876 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 14: World cup but. 877 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 13: IT'S exciting, i mean it's pulling together all of. The, 878 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 13: continents look the president has had a contentious relationship with 879 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 13: some countries on the Continent, of AFRICA but i know 880 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 13: that those fans are still going to. Come out football 881 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 13: is one of the most uniting, things globally and we're 882 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 13: going to just have to call it football in. 883 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 14: This conversation Sorry to american there is a. 884 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 2: SOCCER caucus i learned this morning In. THE capitol i 885 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 2: did not realize that they do call it soccer just 886 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 2: for what. It's WORTH and i did Hear the president 887 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: refer to soccer as well in terms rick of just. 888 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 2: Projecting power that's, one thing but when it comes to 889 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: actually Getting into americans. Living rooms you know a lot about. 890 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 2: Political optics you've got in, this case You're Advising. Donald 891 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 2: trump you've got your guy on stage here At The 892 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: kennedy center with two. World leaders you just want a. 893 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 2: Peace Prize tom brady's in. The Room wayne gretzky's going to. 894 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 2: Be there you got the village. People playing what does 895 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 2: this mean culturally for this president In This? White house, ye, 896 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 2: KNOW look i. 897 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 10: Think when the president hits a skid, on, politics uh 898 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 10: he's very deaf at uh, you know changing it up 899 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 10: by doing something that puts, him into as, you say 900 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 10: millions of living rooms in a. 901 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 12: Different context and and he's used. 902 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 10: Sports quite a bit to uh sort of bolster that 903 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 10: image of, you know being every. 904 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 12: Man uh In The. 905 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 10: White house and and whether it's shown up at football 906 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 10: games or or, other awards ceremonies. Or whatnot, you know 907 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 10: he's not he's not shy about being on. A platform 908 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 10: one of the biggest events, he did, you know in 909 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 10: the campaign that really helped him was shown up AT a. 910 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 10: Ufc fight very few uh politicians would have thought that 911 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 10: was going to be something that would, help them and 912 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 10: he had a key sense of the marketing aspects. Of 913 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 10: that So uh and and by, the way one of the, 914 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 10: you know highest growing sports in the world and In 915 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 10: The united states as far as uh you know people. 916 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 12: Watching it, you know. 917 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 10: Is soccer and and so you can only imagine the 918 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 10: mass some amount of money and effort to build up 919 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 10: its popularity before the game's. 920 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 3: Kick off this. 921 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: Is publicity you, can't, BUY right, i mean if you 922 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 2: to have an elected official surrounded by all the celebrities 923 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 2: here of course other, world leaders it's kind of less, 924 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: the point to. Be honest but this is INTERRUPTING, daytime, 925 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 2: tv right this is happening instead of. Soap operas right 926 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 2: now people are. 927 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 14: Watching this press is good breass. 928 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 2: And this is actually pretty, positive though Right the americans 929 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,760 Speaker 2: just watched Him receive you can joke ABOUT the Fifa. 930 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 2: Peace prize, and however everyone knew he was going to. 931 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 2: Get this but a Lot of americans aren't reading the 932 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 2: tip sheets in. The morning they just saw the president 933 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 2: get a peace PRIZE. On tv what does that mean 934 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: for his image across? 935 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 13: The, COUNTRY look i could personally believe THAT The Fifa 936 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 13: peace prize is akin to that of a happy, meal 937 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 13: toy but globally it does sent a very so. 938 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 2: One of the great honors of his life a happy. 939 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 14: Meal toy we'll see who gets the. Second one i'm. 940 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 14: Not sure oh we got. 941 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 2: We'll see Holding, Up james we're showing the president. On 942 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 2: stage it's just it's something, THAT, Says, usa. 943 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 14: Okay well he drew. 944 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 13: You, in. 945 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 2: Okay gotcha. I'm sorry this is the actual. Drawing out 946 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 2: we're getting to, it here just to the end of the. 947 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 2: First hour there, we go all three. 948 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 3: Of, them. 949 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 2: Rick How many americans knew he was going to Win 950 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 2: The peace? Prize today are we are we being a 951 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 2: little too cute? 952 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 10: About, this yeah we're in, the bubble, you know outside, 953 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 10: the bubble nobody was thinking. About this nobody was THINKING 954 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 10: about Fifa draw with all due RESPECT, to fifa and 955 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 10: and yet your, point, is well, taken earlier is that 956 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 10: people are all going to see this. Is great, you 957 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 10: know nobody knows What The Nobel peace prize is and 958 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 10: we talk about that, every week, so like WHY wouldn't 959 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 10: fifa be bigger, than that because, you know it's got a. 960 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 10: Bigger brand so at the end of, the day, you 961 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 10: know it's it's A good it's A good Friday For. 962 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 10: Donald trump he's had some really rough, ones lately AND 963 00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 10: today i think. 964 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 12: They're gonn they're. 965 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 10: Gonna celebrate maybe they'll open up the deck with some 966 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,760 Speaker 10: heaters and play a little rock music At The white 967 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 10: house just to celebrate what a good day it's been. 968 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: For him they got the village people. IN town i 969 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 2: think they're all going to be At The Rose garden club. 970 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 2: Later right major hat tip To producer james managed to. 971 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 2: PUT together i never thought we'd have a segment with 972 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 2: the panel ON The Fifa world, cup draw but this 973 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 2: is politics in twenty. Twenty five thanks for listening To 974 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 2: the Balance of. Power podcast make sure to subscribe if you, 975 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 2: haven't Already, At, apple spotify or wherever you get, your 976 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 2: podcasts and you can find us live every Weekday, FROM 977 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 2: washington Dc At New time eastern at bloomberg. Dot com