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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're thinking it's time for

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Speaker 1: a quarterback change. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in my garage,

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Speaker 1: joined by my friend Nick Shook, who just wrote up

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Speaker 1: a double header's worth of games on Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: Shook described to me your experience with Vikings, Bears and

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Speaker 1: Falcons Raiders gross.

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Speaker 2: The football was gross. It was entertaining at times, but

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Speaker 2: it was gross.

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Speaker 1: It was It was a weird late season pair of

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Speaker 1: games where you were watching the four teams playing, and

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Speaker 1: you saw one team that has a chance, a real

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Speaker 1: chance to be the number one seed in the NFC,

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Speaker 1: one of the stories of the year, and then you

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Speaker 1: just saw three other teams. All right, let's start with

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Speaker 1: two others of those teams, because I think the most

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Speaker 1: interesting story of the night actually happened in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Two seconds laft final play of the game, Ritter all

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Speaker 3: straight drop now up in the pocket, gonna hang it

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Speaker 3: for the inZone and it is intercepted by Loud of

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Speaker 3: the end of the game. Holy smokes your hearts and

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Speaker 3: your throat. When Ridder throws it in the in zone

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Speaker 3: and Jesse Bates has come away with the interception.

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Speaker 1: The ball in interception that's the.

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Speaker 2: End of the game.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was Jesse Bates who got the game

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Speaker 1: winning play. That's what Jesse Bates does. Falcons win fifteen

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Speaker 1: to nine. That was West Durham on w z g C,

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Speaker 1: and what you could hear there was a sigh relief,

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Speaker 1: not just from mister Durham, but from Kirk Cousins, from

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Speaker 1: Raheem Morris. The embarrassment that would have come from losing

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Speaker 1: to Desmond Rider. Scoring two touchdowns in the last three

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Speaker 1: minutes of a game you were leading fifteen to three

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Speaker 1: but just slipped awful on offense throughout would have been

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Speaker 1: enough to power sports talk radio in Atlanta for a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Nick, I wasn't expecting to lead with

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Speaker 1: this game. But I think the kirk Cousins situation is

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Speaker 1: at such a code red that even though they won

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Speaker 1: the game, I really am thinking they're going to bench

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, or they should bench Kirk Cousins. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: feeling like it may happen. What was your takeaway just

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Speaker 1: watching him play tonight against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: He looked like he has for most of the last month,

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Speaker 2: which is a stretch in which he's thrown zero touchdowns

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Speaker 2: and eight interceptions entering tonight, and he doesn't look comfortable.

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Speaker 2: He looks hesitant. He looks like the pass rush, which

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Speaker 2: has been in his face a lot this year, has

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Speaker 2: started to mess with him mentally. His passes are not

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Speaker 2: coming out with quite a month, quite as much zip

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Speaker 2: as they did before. A lot of downward trajectory passes.

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Speaker 2: Just doesn't look like a quarterback who feels as if

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Speaker 2: or plays as if he commands the salary that he

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Speaker 2: does or that he should be out there. And for

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Speaker 2: a Falcons team that was very much still in the

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Speaker 2: race in the NFC South, I don't think that they

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Speaker 2: can waste any more time. I think we talked about

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Speaker 2: this two weeks ago on our Sunday recap show, in

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Speaker 2: which we basically agreed at the time that hey, he's

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Speaker 2: not helping them, he's hurting them. And they won the

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Speaker 2: game tonight, but it wasn't because of him, say, for

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Speaker 2: one pass to Drake London. I mean, there was a

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Speaker 2: lot left to be desired, including the fact that they

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Speaker 2: trust him to throw on third down when they could

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Speaker 2: have ran the ball and drained forty more seconds off

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Speaker 2: one thing you can't afford to do is give Desmond

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Speaker 2: And they did.

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Speaker 1: They they got in position to throw two not quite

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Speaker 1: hail Mary's from the thirty. You're right, they could have

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Speaker 1: run the ball. I was actually surprised they let Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins throw the ball. I believe it was what a

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Speaker 1: third and nine their past midfield. The first down wins

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Speaker 1: the game, but you're under two minutes to go. The

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Speaker 1: Raiders don't have any timeouts. If you run the ball

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Speaker 1: takes it down to about one twenty. And one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons I thought they would just run the ball

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Speaker 1: there is they didn't let Kirk Cousins do that much

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Speaker 1: throughout the final three quarters of this game. For one

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Speaker 1: of this game. And yeah, the pressure was in his face,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of it, and Troy Aikman, I mean,

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Speaker 1: rather Dan Orlovsky and Lewis Ridick were pointing it out

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Speaker 1: throughout the broadcast. He was just late and on that

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Speaker 1: play where they did trust him, where they said, you

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Speaker 1: know what you are, our franchise quarterback. If you were

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Speaker 1: could have easily been intercepted. And that play was what

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Speaker 1: put me over the top that I think a change

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Speaker 1: is coming now. It's stupid to make predictions on a

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Speaker 1: Monday night podcast. I put this out there on Blue

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Speaker 1: Sky and everyone pushes back and just says it's so

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Speaker 1: hard to get a rookie up to speed. And Charles McDonald,

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Speaker 1: who's a Falcons fan, one of the best writers podcasters

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Speaker 1: out there, is like, Falcons would never do it. They're

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Speaker 1: too afraid. And I get that, but I felt a

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Speaker 1: little better after listening to Raheem Morris after the game.

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Speaker 1: Here he is answering a couple questions about Cousins.

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Speaker 4: He's got to play better, and you know, obviously you

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Speaker 4: got to go back, you got to be to look

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Speaker 4: He's got to play better. We got to find a

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Speaker 4: way to get him to play better. And obviously we'll

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Speaker 4: get to work tomorrow. That's a part of our process, right.

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Speaker 4: You go, you look at the tape, you review with

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Speaker 4: the people that needs to be reviewed with. You know,

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Speaker 4: we get all the coordinators the room, we'll talk with everybody,

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Speaker 4: and we got to play better at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: She'll part b to that.

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Speaker 3: If he can't, are you prepared to replace him with

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Speaker 4: You know, we got everybody in our roster for a reason, right,

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Speaker 4: We got so much to get better at. And like,

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Speaker 4: those things will always be discussed. That's just the nature

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Speaker 4: of the Beast and football. It's just so heavily talked

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Speaker 4: about it at the quarterback position because there's only one

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Speaker 4: guy out there, you know, so like for us man

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Speaker 4: our mentally, he's the find a way to win the

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Speaker 4: next game. That's just the mentality that we're going to have.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised people are making a bigger deal about this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we draft guys for a reason. He was

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Speaker 1: pretty definitive that Kirk's our guy after the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Yeah, and that to me spoke differently. Now

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Speaker 1: he's in the emotion of the moment and maybe once

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Speaker 1: he gets back and watches the tape, and the tape's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be kind. But once he realized he has

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Speaker 1: to start game planning. Maybe he feels different, but that

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Speaker 1: to me was Raheem Morris leaving the door wide open

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Speaker 2: It's a drastic change in tone from what he sounded

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Speaker 2: like two weeks ago, which is when somebody presented that possibility,

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Speaker 2: he quickly shut it down and was like, no, course,

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Speaker 2: curse our quarterback. We're not thinking about that now. He

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Speaker 2: like you said, he's leaving the door wide open, and

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Speaker 2: rightfully so. Her cousins finished eleven of seventeen for one

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Speaker 2: and it could have been worse. It could have been

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Speaker 2: two picks. It could have been much worse. And that's

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Speaker 2: already a bad line. That's not a guy that you

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Speaker 2: pay the amount of money that they're paying him. And

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Speaker 2: they are in a playoff race. They have to seize

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Speaker 2: this opportunity while they have it now. Their offensive play

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Speaker 2: calling not really inspired. B Jon Robinson had a really

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Speaker 2: nice night, which kind of kept them afloat offensively, but

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Speaker 2: they can't finish drives. They haven't finished drives for weeks

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Speaker 2: and it starts at quarterback. It's not hard to see

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Speaker 2: the average eye, the average football fan can see what's

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Speaker 2: going on. Kirk Cousins is not playing up to a

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Speaker 2: starting quarterback standard, much less a franchise quarterback standard. And

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Speaker 2: with the playoffs on the line, you have to consider

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Speaker 2: all options so as to not waste these last three

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Speaker 1: So I'm counting. They had seven possessions in the second half.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was the Raiders. Sorry they yeah, they

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Speaker 1: The two drives that they got went for fifteen yards

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Speaker 1: and I don't blame you, if you didn't, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: realize that the Falcons defense and special teams were completely dominant.

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Speaker 1: They blocked two plunts in the game, setting Falcons up

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Speaker 1: that the block punt set up. They blocked an extra point.

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Speaker 1: The Falcons defense had four sacks. The Falcons defense forced

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Speaker 1: two turnovers. The Falcons defense scored two points with the safety.

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Speaker 1: It was all Falcons defense, and that's what I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about and Raheem Morris knows that. And you said this

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Speaker 1: performance has been coming for weeks in terms of the

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Speaker 1: touchdown interception. That's right. But I actually understood them starting

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Speaker 1: him in this game because I thought last week he

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Speaker 1: played quarterback. He looked like Kirk Cousins, like Troy Aikman said,

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Speaker 1: like he was making quick decisions. He pushed the ball

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Speaker 1: he had a number of really good throws today tonight

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Speaker 1: he played scared. This was actually his worst game of

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Speaker 1: the season by far in terms of EPA per play

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Speaker 1: and success rate. Their success rate was way worse than

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder and the Raiders who have no talent. And

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Speaker 1: Riddard just got there and looked terrible and was actually

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Speaker 1: under more pressure than Kirk Cousins was in this game,

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Speaker 1: and those sacks were like knocking them back into farther

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Speaker 1: field goal range. It was just rough. And it's not

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Speaker 1: even about just making the playoffs. Shook because I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're going to make the playoffs. It's like, what

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Speaker 1: the Giants next week, Washington and Carolina, like they could

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Speaker 1: win all three of those games and hope the Bucks

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Speaker 1: stub their toe. But either way, Mike Tomlin says, don

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Speaker 1: don't live in your fears. What would Mike Tomlin do,

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Speaker 1: Nick Schuck, Mike Tomlin would make the tough decision. He

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Speaker 1: would go to Russell Wilson. He would have a feel

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Speaker 1: like go to Michael Pennox.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I do think about that. The Tomlin

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Speaker 2: example is actually kind of good because Tomlin did the reverse.

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Speaker 2: He went from a younger guy to eveter at a

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Speaker 2: time when they didn't need to, when they were winning

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Speaker 2: football games, but he felt like it was the time

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Speaker 2: for them for the large part. This would be the opposite.

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Speaker 2: This would be going from a veteran to a rookie

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Speaker 2: in a key spot. But like Raheem said, you draft

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Speaker 2: guys for a reason. You drafted Michael PENNOCKX where you

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Speaker 2: he was going to get drafted because of the long

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Speaker 2: term plan and the curiosity of can he be a

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Speaker 2: guy who helps us out quicker than we think. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we just gave Kirk because all this money, but he's

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Speaker 2: also coming off an achilles injury. He's not mobile. He's

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Speaker 2: scrambled to night for like the second time this year.

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Speaker 2: It didn't look good. It looked like Tom Brady when

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Speaker 1: And thank you for pointing out Bajohn, who went for

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Speaker 1: And I actually think the future does matter, that it's

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Speaker 1: Let's go, okay, I'm not going to spend much time

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Speaker 1: touching moment before the game, Jake Reid and Chris Carter

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Speaker 1: In a really cool touch by the Vikings and Kevin

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Speaker 1: three weeks. It was more like a C minus passing game.

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Speaker 1: You know, Darnold barely gets over five yards per attemptary,

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Speaker 1: he's under six. He had that interception, which was on

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Speaker 1: a fourth down. He just wasn't that accurate under pressure.

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Speaker 1: It was the opposite of what he's been all season.

436
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Speaker 1: He went eight for seventeen for seventy three yards. Most

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Speaker 1: of his throws were under ten yards. It was actually

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Speaker 1: one of his worst games, I think because it was

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Speaker 1: one of the offensive lines words games, And that's probably

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Speaker 1: the concern moving forward. Brian O'Neill loo's banged up. He

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Speaker 1: has not played well lately even before This makes me

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Speaker 1: wonder if he already was hurt, and so that is

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a concern. But the running game

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Speaker 1: was great. Aaron Jones was awesome, and the defense was dominant,

445
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Speaker 1: and the offense also was efficient on those first couple

446
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Speaker 1: of drives to take a two score lead right off

447
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Speaker 1: the bat. So the situation of the game does matter

448
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Speaker 1: to me, and you're just not going to have that

449
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Speaker 1: a performance every week in a long season. So I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to give that part of the game a pass

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Speaker 1: because we are grading the whole team. And it was

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Speaker 1: a really good defensive effort where Caleb looked just lost overall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he had a rough outing. I do

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Speaker 2: caution against the people that haven't seen the Vikings very much,

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Speaker 2: and because they're on national TV tonight, this is like

456
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Speaker 2: one of their first looks at them and they think, well,

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Speaker 2: Donald's nothing special, because he's been a lot better than

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Speaker 2: he was tonight. I also am just mildly concerned because

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Speaker 2: I just like to think in the next month ahead,

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Speaker 2: as we approach the postseason. In this Vikings team, I'm

461
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Speaker 2: always trying to poke holes in teams, and I think

462
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Speaker 2: about depth, and right tackle was an issue when O'Neill

463
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Speaker 2: left this game, and David Kessenberry came in and is

464
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Speaker 2: not good and became a clear weakness and it affected

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnald. So like I worry about depth, but I

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Speaker 2: also just worry about you know what, if this is

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Speaker 2: a blueprint. You have to have the personnel obviously to

468
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Speaker 2: deploy this, but when you face some of the better

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Speaker 2: NFC teams when you get to the playoffs, this is

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Speaker 2: a blueprint to be able to counter this offense. Can

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Speaker 2: the defense then stack up on it. I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: to find the little things that maybe take a team

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Speaker 2: out from you know, being an elite contender to something

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Speaker 2: below that. Just to prepare myself and separate some from

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Speaker 2: the other.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's such a huge difference between the one seed

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Speaker 1: or the two seed and the five seed, and those

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Speaker 1: are the three most likely seeds that the Vikings could have.

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Speaker 1: Their playoffs start Sunday in Seattle. Now they're not one

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Speaker 1: and done the next three weeks, so you don't have

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Speaker 1: the same sort of pressure, but the rest of their

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Speaker 1: season is against playoffs or in the case of the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: potentially playoffs adjacent teams. On a short week against a

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Speaker 1: team that's going to really need a win and has

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Speaker 1: a dangerous defensive front, which I think could give this

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Speaker 1: offensive line problems if they're not playing well. Then you

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Speaker 1: have the Packers. Tough division game. Again, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: why I gave them a little bit of a pass.

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Speaker 1: It's a division game. The Bears know this team pretty well,

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Speaker 1: you know tonight like it held them down. And then

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Speaker 1: you're at Detroit, which could be for the division to

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Speaker 1: finish up the season before a potential playoff run. If

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Speaker 1: they win all three of those games, they have a

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Speaker 1: real chance at the one seed. If they win all

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Speaker 1: three of those games, they will be the NFC North

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Speaker 1: champions over the Lions. Which is crazy to think they

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Speaker 1: control that their fate as it were. I hate using that.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say that ever again on this show.

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Speaker 1: But they went out and they win the division. I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be very tough with that slate

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Speaker 1: to win out, but they will absolutely be tested. And

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Speaker 1: I think this was a good warm up from them.

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Speaker 1: I love what I see out of Jonathan Gridard. I

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Speaker 1: loved what I've seen out of Blake Cashman. They survive

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Speaker 1: no Stefan Gilmour, hopefully they get him backed defensively that

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Speaker 1: they did everything they wanted to do. The Bears were

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Speaker 1: two of fifteen on third and fourth down combined, and

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Speaker 1: so that was really impressive. And I know it's the

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Speaker 1: Bears and Caleb just won't let go of the ball,

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Speaker 1: and that was a big part of them succeeding. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's partly because Minnesota has showing them so

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Speaker 1: many different looks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also think that the protection could be better,

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Speaker 2: but that's been the case for them pretty much all season.

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Speaker 2: I'm not worried about Caleb. I think they have their guy.

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Speaker 2: He has some incredible talents that have exceeded my expectations.

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Speaker 2: It's just a matter of improving the situation.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little worried. I'm a little worried.

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Speaker 2: What are you worried about?

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Speaker 1: That? He just isn't seeing the field well. He was

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Speaker 1: frustrating Troy Aikman in this game, and that can easily

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Speaker 1: click into place with a better coach and probably will

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Speaker 1: next year. Like I just the ceiling for him is

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Speaker 1: so high. I was thinking he was, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the best prospects I've ever seen. That he's missing

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Speaker 1: some open receivers. The game seems a little fast for him.

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Speaker 1: In his default right now is just to not throw

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Speaker 1: an interception, which is fine, it's not working well right now,

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Speaker 1: but just you would like to see the processing, the

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Speaker 1: decision making. But yeah, he's a rookie. I'm not worried

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Speaker 1: about him being a good NFL player, but just hasn't

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Speaker 1: been a good This is almost like a worst case

533
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Speaker 1: scenario for what I thought his rookie year could be,

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Speaker 1: and it's happened.

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Speaker 2: You know, Oh I think it could be. It could

536
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Speaker 2: be much worse, I think than it is right now,

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Speaker 2: because I've seen enough proof to make me think, all right,

538
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Speaker 2: he's got it. It's just that the situation around the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff needs to be better. There are times where

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Speaker 2: the speedy game, as you mentioned, kind of speeds him up.

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Speaker 2: They were in a red zone situation tonight where he

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Speaker 2: had a guy open on a fade and he just

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Speaker 2: overshot him in the corner of the end zone. The

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Speaker 2: throw was of those, but that's a rookie thing. That's

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Speaker 2: the thing that happens when you're still here, though, because.

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Speaker 1: He was accurate. He was accurate, like, and he's trying

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Speaker 1: to make all those extra plays and it's just like.

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Speaker 2: But how much of that is how much of that

549
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Speaker 2: is a product of knowing that you have to be

550
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Speaker 2: a bit of a hero and trying too hard. I

551
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Speaker 2: know it sounds simplistic, but trying too hard in those

552
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Speaker 2: situations I think is is that's why that happens at times.

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Speaker 2: I just think that the natural talents there and if

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Speaker 2: you make the situation run better, he'll He'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I just I was so confident that he's going

556
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Speaker 1: to be a good pro and still am that. This

557
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Speaker 1: was the baseline to me of like close to the

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Speaker 1: worst case scenario. I mean, the team is four and ten.

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Speaker 2: And they've lost their coach, lost coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He's struggling out there. Everyone's frustrated. A lot of it

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Speaker 1: is on the coaching, Don't get me wrong, I have

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Speaker 1: no doubts long term of Caleb Williams. But I have

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Speaker 1: been test driving a theory which even at the dinner table,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting pushed back that's bias, And I know

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Speaker 1: people think it's biased, but I'm really, I really don't

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Speaker 1: think it is. I think if you redrafted right now,

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Speaker 1: I would take Drake May first.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, here we go. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. I mean, and we also.

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Speaker 1: Don't like other people that are smart not I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: say other people like had Drake Not many, but some

573
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Speaker 1: people had Drake May higher than Jayden Daniels, and some

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Speaker 1: like Nate Tice even had him higher than Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: going into it. So I think if you went into

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Speaker 1: it with that, I think all things considered, he's shown

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Speaker 1: the most like pro traits, especially with his age and maturity,

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Speaker 1: of of all three of them. If you're like factoring

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Speaker 1: in the age and the experience all that, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's crazy. I think all three of them are close.

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Speaker 2: And let's let's remove the Patriots Association for a second. Okay,

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Speaker 2: And I agree with you with what you're saying with

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Speaker 2: Drake May. Do you think that Jayden Daniels does better

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Speaker 2: in this offense than Kayleb Williams has right now because

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Speaker 2: Jayden far and away looks like the best quarterback in

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Speaker 2: this class so far, not.

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Speaker 1: Rookie season, So I don't want I don't want Commander's

588
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Speaker 1: fans to get into his He's had the best rookie

589
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Speaker 1: season and is in a perfect situation for what he

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Speaker 1: has needed to do. And uh, yes, I think he

591
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Speaker 1: would be doing better in this system.

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Speaker 2: Because then that that's number one. Yeah, that's your first pick.

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Speaker 2: Okay again, I'm Sammar years. Okay, that's fair years and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you worry about durability whatever else, But what I

595
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Speaker 2: saw is not.

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Speaker 1: Even about durability. It's like Jayden does what he does

597
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Speaker 1: really really well. I think in terms of being able

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Speaker 1: to manage the pocket, stay in the pocket. I think

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00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: the situation around mate is so bad. And if you

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Speaker 1: look over the last two or three weeks, like find

601
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Speaker 1: me the negative play where he's not making the right decision,

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Speaker 1: He's been He's done things in terms of his decision

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Speaker 1: making and his accuracy and his boys that I did

604
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Speaker 1: not expect this early. And you know, the physical tools

605
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: are there if and when the right coach and system

606
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: are around him. Jaden's floor is exceptionally high and is

607
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: clearly higher than Drake May's right now. But the kids

608
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Speaker 1: three years older, like that means a lot to me,

609
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Speaker 1: Like he's played a lot more football, Like that's a

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Speaker 1: lot three years ago.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to separate quarterback from situation, I think, and

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Speaker 2: we often do that unfairly to quarterbacks that go into

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Speaker 2: really bad situations and don't produce. I think I'll go

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Speaker 2: back to him catch the Browns in ninety nine and

615
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Speaker 2: through two thousand and one. I mean, he had no weapons,

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Speaker 2: no offensive line, right, but like May missed one throw

617
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Speaker 2: in his game against Arizone, Like I know, you finished

618
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Speaker 2: ten for ten in the first half and everything else,

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Speaker 2: but he only missed one throw. And then I went

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Speaker 2: to Jayden's game and I was like that was pretty

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Speaker 2: damn good too, Like he.

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Speaker 1: Was great too. Even the number as bad as the

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Speaker 1: situation is, the success rate the aper play all that

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Speaker 1: with the QBR with Drake me is actually quite good.

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00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: It's like above league average starter, which is crazy. So

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Speaker 1: I am I am greaty on a curve. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a fun discussion. Uh, clearly this game didn't give

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Speaker 1: us enough to talk about. We just diverted into that bill.

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Speaker 2: Come to the NFL Daily four.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely love this Vikings team in what they're giving us.

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Speaker 1: It's just a great, great fan base. I love the

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Speaker 1: fan bases that are getting rewarded right now, the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Lions fans don't feel like they're getting rewarded,

634
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Speaker 1: but take the big picture, they are the Bills. Like,

635
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Speaker 1: we have a lot of potentially really fun Super Bowl matchups.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break, Nick, we're gonna come back,

637
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do some news, and then we're gonna give

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00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: out our Captains of the week. Back in the nut,

639
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Speaker 1: back on NFL Daily. Not a ton of news on

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Speaker 1: this Monday night. Most of the news is unfortunate news

641
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: because it's injury related. And we'll start with Patrick Mahomes.

642
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: Further tests on his ankle revealed a quote mild ankle

643
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Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. According to our national NFL insider Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what a mild high ankle sprain is, Like,

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that before other than you know when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Patrick Mahomes. But it's a high ankle sprain.

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Speaker 1: And Ian put out a little video that I saw

648
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: in Blue Sky which suggested it might make some sense

649
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: that he sits out this Saturday game against the Texans

650
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: in hopes of getting ready to play on Christmas against

651
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: who is it on Christmas?

652
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: The Steels Steelers. Yep.

653
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it's like Netflix,

654
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, they're sweat and they don't want Carson Wentz

655
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: on Christmas, like giving you a big lump of call.

656
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but at the same time, do you want Carson

657
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: Wentz on a Saturday. No. But I'm not happy, you know,

658
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: I think.

659
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a rare like Chiefs Texans game. Yeah,

660
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, in the middle of the afternoon.

661
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: No.

662
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just more realistic that he could miss

663
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: the first one and get the second one at least.

664
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Speaker 2: I mean, frankly, I'd set him out for the next

665
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: two games to preserve his health for the playoffs, and

666
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: maybe he comes back to you know, play the Broncos

667
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: and affect their seeding if they, you know, reach the playoffs.

668
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: So it's wise like you've gotten to this point for

669
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: a reason, is so that you have a little bit

670
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: of breathing room to be able to do something like

671
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: this if something unfortunate like his injury has occurred. We

672
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: know what the Chiefs are about. They're chasing a three.

673
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: There is no need to risk him on a Saturday

674
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: game when you have a short week after that. I

675
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: don't think it's good. I mean, they could lose one

676
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: or two of those games. Does not really bother me

677
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: very much without him, because their offense isn't all that

678
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: spectacular with him now. He elevates them and converts third

679
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: downs and does the magic things that he does. But

680
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: I'm not overly concerned about this long term. I would

681
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: really worry more about can he play in the playoffs

682
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: than can he play this Saturday In the next Wednesday.

683
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: I have to admit I have not watched that game

684
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: back yet. I'm playing it's next on my list. I'm

685
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: gonna watch it Tuesday morning. He had the lowest PFF

686
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: grade like for a game that he's had and I

687
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: don't know how long forty three I was like, I

688
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: can't remember ever seeing that with problem well bruised and battered,

689
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, physically he could use the

690
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: time now. The only thing I'd push back on is

691
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: that the one seed is huge for them. The Bills,

692
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: the way they're looking in the the Jets and the

693
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Patriots twice in the final three weeks, they're unlikely to

694
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: lose any of those games. The Chiefs can only lose

695
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Speaker 1: one more game and hold on to the number one

696
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: overall seed, and the schedule is not easy. You know,

697
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: the Texans are not playing well, but that's a good defense.

698
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: And then the Steelers, I think is an even matchup

699
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: right now with the Chiefs, if you're asking me to

700
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Speaker 1: set that line, I don't believe in the Steelers quite

701
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: as much as certainly the Ravens, who they are underdogs

702
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: or the Eagles of teams like that, but them in

703
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, like that's not an easy game, not an

704
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: easy defense. So these aren't guaranteed wins, even if Mahomes

705
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: is playing, and so it's really interesting to watch how

706
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: they manage this. And I think he is quote unquote

707
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: built different that that's what Ian rapped, you know, Ian said,

708
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: and it's true he has played through injuries before, but

709
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: it's one thing to play through him in the playoffs.

710
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: It's another thing to do it in week fifteen or sixteen.

711
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. I'm very curious. It adds

712
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: a little intrigued to this one seed, even though it's

713
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: not in the way that you want. Let's go to

714
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: more bad injury news. The Lions got surprising news on

715
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Speaker 1: David Montgomery. He has a torn PCL. He is likely

716
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: to miss the rest of the season. That's a heartbreak, heartbreaker,

717
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: because he is the heart and soul of their team,

718
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: Ali McNeil. It's been confirmed that he has a torn ACL.

719
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: He was playing almost at a Pro Bowl level, I

720
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: would say was their second best defensive lineman when Hutchinson

721
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: was there, was their best alongside Darius Smith, who's been

722
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: great for them since Smith showed up. Brutal, brutal injury there.

723
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: And then Carlton Davis has a broken jaw and is

724
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: out about six weeks, which would give him a chance

725
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: to return late in the playoffs, maybe the NFC title

726
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: game if you just did the math out, but he's

727
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 1: going to be out for a while. He's their best,

728
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, outside cornerback. It's just brutal. You feel for

729
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: everyone in involved there. I know it's just football, but

730
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: like the fans and Dan Campbell and most importantly these

731
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: players who were part of this magical journey, and especially

732
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: a guy like Montgomery, just to be taken out of

733
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: it is absolutely brutal.

734
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, one of the biggest components to reach

735
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl or at least making a deep

736
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: playoff run is staying healthy. Like that's that's really what

737
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: separates some of the best teams from teams that could

738
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: have been there and aren't. And the hits keep coming

739
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: for them at a level that almost matches the forty

740
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: nine ers at this point, and they've done a pretty

741
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: good job of plugging holes in the dam. The Davis

742
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 2: injury is going to be significant because of the state

743
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: of their secondary as it was before. He didn't play

744
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: perfect by any means. He had moments where he could

745
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: have been better. But what's really going to matter the

746
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: most is that defensive front. I think Alee McNeil losing

747
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: him after you lost Hudgson already, Zadarias Smith played I

748
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: think less than fifty percent of snaps on Sunday. They're

749
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 2: trying to rotate guys and they're trying to make it work.

750
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: That's going to really hurt. And then, of course David

751
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: Montgomery won half of this great backfield tandem. There's been

752
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: games where he's just put it away. We go back

753
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: to way back to Week one, where they just run

754
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: it down and throw their opponent to salter with that

755
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: victory and overtime, and now you're left with just Jamior Gibbs,

756
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: who's a great running back. But it just takes away

757
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: all these strengths of your team. How many can you

758
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: weather before it takes you down as a team. That's

759
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: what concerns me the most.

760
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: It's crazy to try to think about ranking like because

761
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: they've had so many big losses now, they just haven't

762
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: had many on offense. And my thought has been all

763
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: along that, look, if you have the best offense in

764
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: the league and their offense is still relatively healthy, you

765
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: have a pretty good chance to win two home games

766
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: to make the Super Bowl. Now you got to get

767
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: to those two home games, and to do that, you're

768
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to win in Chicago next week like their chances.

769
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to win in San Francisco on a

770
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: Monday night football game. Not a gimme, but like their chances.

771
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: And then you're gonna have to beat the Vikings in

772
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: what is almost the start of the playoffs in wiki

773
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: team possible. Maybe the Vikings will trip up a couple

774
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: times before that it's unlikely and make that easier. Maybe

775
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: they can get luck that way. But if you have

776
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: the best offense in the league, you have a chance.

777
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: And I still think they can be about the best

778
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: offensive league even without Montgomery. Jamiir Gibbs and David Montgomery

779
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: are not the same. Montgomery as the heart and soul

780
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: of this team. He is the guy you trust to

781
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: get those big yards to close out these games. He

782
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: is an exceptional running back. Jamiir Gibbs has been on

783
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: this team now for a little while. Like he could

784
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: be top three running backs in the league good Like

785
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: that is how good he is in terms of his

786
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: pure talent. His yards per touch rushing and receiving compared

787
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: to Montgomery are not close. So ken Jamir Gibbs step

788
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: up a level here and give us five six games

789
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: where he's the best running back in the league. I

790
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: actually don't think that's that crazy of a thought. As

791
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: great as Saquon Barkley as I'm not saying he's gonna

792
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: have a better season, I'm just saying for five games,

793
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: can he give you that sort of production. I think

794
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: he's that good where he could give you that sort

795
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: of production.

796
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: I think the most important facet of this offense is

797
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: their offensive line, which is still intact. And as long

798
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: as that's intact, you're still going to have a pretty

799
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: good chance of winning. Provided you can get a few

800
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: more stops than you did against Buffalo on Sunday. That's

801
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: going to be the big Achilles.

802
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Heal right, Carlton Davis, you know he's a man corner.

803
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: They love to play man corner. You just those don't

804
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: grow on trees. So even though it felt like he

805
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: got picked on here or there, like I thought, he

806
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: had a really good season for them, because what they

807
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: ask out of their guys is a lot. We're going

808
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: to fly through the rest of these The Titans and

809
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: the Browns are primed to change their starting quarterbacks. If

810
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: there's one thing we're known for here at NFL Daily,

811
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: it's the maxim that if your head coach does not

812
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: commit to your starting quarterback on a Monday, a change

813
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: is coming on a Tuesday. And the Titans did not

814
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: commit to Will Levis, the Browns did not commit to

815
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. So look for those changes. Stay tuned for

816
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: more on that, and that does make me think maybe

817
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris, who did not commit to Kirk Cousins, is

818
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: going to make that change those moves. I'm not going

819
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: to say they're soft tanks. In fact, the Titans I

820
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: think have a better chance to win with Mason Rudolph

821
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: Brown's a little bit of a soft thing.

822
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: That curiosity about dtr Man it rains.

823
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: The guy more likely. What that tells me is they're

824
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: not bringing back Jamis as like a backup or.

825
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I very much questioned the future will Levis.

826
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: I know it was one game, but so bad. It

827
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: was so bad it wiped out all the good will

828
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: he'd built over the last six weeks. And I'm very

829
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: curious to see if they make a move in a

830
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: different direction in the off season.

831
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: Now I expect they will. He's either going to be

832
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: their backup or not on the Titans next year. That's

833
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: my expectation. It's a weird note. Sam Hubbard, the Bengals

834
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: edge to who got a big contract a couple of

835
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: years ago, suffered a torn knee ligament that happened on

836
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: his touchdown catch that he made as a defensive end.

837
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: If this this was like another team or another story,

838
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: or a player that was a little more relevant to

839
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: the playoff race. You'd be like, man, that's crazy. It's

840
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: just crazy to because Sam Hubbard's been there a long time,

841
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: been a really good player for them, and I don't

842
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: think they're going to keep him going into next year.

843
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna cut him because of his contract.

844
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: So his last play as a Bengal is likely catching

845
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass from one of his very best friends

846
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: in the world, Joe Burrow. Those two are really tight.

847
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: It's the weird story. Just wanted to note it for

848
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: the audience. That's all I got for you. Shook on

849
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: that one.

850
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 2: Well, maybe he stays in Ohio and goes and plays

851
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: in Cleveland next year.

852
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: Who knows, wouldn't surprise me. The forty nine Ers suspended

853
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: Devondre Campbell for the last three games of the season

854
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: for conduct detrimental to the team, and the Ravens announced

855
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: that Deontay Johnson will be staying away from team activities

856
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: this week, a mutual decision with the team, according to them.

857
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: So that's here. We quit on the team news update

858
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: for the night.

859
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: I thought it was really funny that the verbiage that

860
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 2: came away from the Devondre Campbell situation sounded a lot

861
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: like John Harbaugh talking about Deontay Johnson, and a lot

862
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Speaker 2: of people were like, they're just gonna cut him, And

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Speaker 2: I was like, I bet you he gets suspended just

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Speaker 2: like Deontay did. And sure enough, it's three games instead

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Speaker 2: of one, but it's still the same result.

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Speaker 1: Right. The NFLPA, I feel like, is getting involved in

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Speaker 1: the Deontay Johnson thing, if I had to guess. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: because when they said mutually and that he's not suspended,

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Speaker 1: it's like, all right, we'll pay you while we figure

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Speaker 1: this thing out. Suspending means we're not paying for you

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Speaker 1: paying you. They suspended him last week. Now there's something

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00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: in between Devondre Campbell. They're not gonna pay him. We'll

873
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Speaker 1: see if the NFLPA, you know, appeals, We'll see if

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Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell gets another job. It's too bad people are

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Speaker 1: just gonna think about him this way. But he was

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Speaker 1: kind of nearing the end of the line anyways. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had some nice runs, you know, he had that

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Speaker 1: you know Pro Bowl run in Green Bay. More importantly

879
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: shook just for me and we gotta get we gotta

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00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: get out of here. We gotta get you to bed. Actually, no,

881
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Speaker 1: you just drank coffee. You gonna get just.

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Speaker 2: Drink a midnight drink a midnight coffee. Yes, twelve thirty am.

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Speaker 1: Coffee man. I said, the show is going to be quick,

884
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Speaker 1: and now we're getting on.

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Speaker 2: No, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Vondre Campbell was half of the five hundred words that

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Speaker 1: I wrote about the Falcons linebacker corps at halftime of

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl against the Patriots, because him and Dion

889
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: Jones were killing the Patriots and Tom freaking Brady for

890
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: the first half of that game, and I was like,

891
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Speaker 1: I'm going to write something about their defense and kind

892
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: of focus on Dean Jones and Campbell, and yeah, that

893
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: never got published. Let's go to uh my favorite part

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Speaker 1: of the week. Let's go to Captain's Corner, presented by

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Speaker 1: Captain Morgan. Let's have you get us going show.

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Speaker 2: All right, extreme bias here. And I know you can't

897
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Speaker 2: see this because we're not on YouTube in this portion

898
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Speaker 2: of the show, but I am wearing a Kent State

899
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Speaker 2: Golden Flashes hoodie. Okay, that's my alma mater. And there's

900
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Speaker 2: a guy in the NFL who has traveled quite a

901
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: road to get to this point. Now he's only a rookie,

902
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: but he's been through plenty of adversity already. His name

903
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: is Devontes Walker. He played receiver at Kent State. He

904
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Speaker 2: hit the portal and went to North Carolina. But because

905
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 2: he had played he had been at multiple different programs before,

906
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Speaker 2: he was ruled ineligible at North Carolina by the NCAA.

907
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: It made a huge stink in the college football ranks.

908
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: Everybody was upset he should have been eligible. He was

909
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: supposed to be then he wasn't. Mac Brown and everybody

910
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: came out with a statement against it, and then eventually

911
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: the NCAA reverse course and he was eligible. Well, now

912
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: he's in the NFL, and I thought it was a

913
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: savvy pick by Eric Tacosta and the Rams when they

914
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: picked him up in the off season. He recorded one

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Speaker 2: catch on Sunday for a touchdown. A touchdown that was

916
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Speaker 2: a spectacular grab in the back of the end zone

917
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Speaker 2: which we played. Not sure if it was actually a touchdown,

918
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Speaker 2: but it stood on the field and he finishes with

919
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Speaker 2: twenty one yards and the touchdown. That's my captain for

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Speaker 2: the week because he's a Golden Flash former Golden Flash

921
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Speaker 2: for a tar heel got his touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Kent State rough rough season for what are you guys

923
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: called the Flyers.

924
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: The Golden Flashes. We went oh to twelve, Golden flash.

925
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: We are the worst program in college football because we were.

926
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's tough, that's tough. I've been there. Tulane was

927
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: pretty close to that for a few years. They're out

928
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: of that. You know, who knows. You could be playing

929
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: in the Gasparilla Bowl before long, like two litters this year.

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00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: Tes Walker best known as the guy who was like

931
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Speaker 1: kind of disappointing me when I was watching Drake may

932
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Speaker 1: film last year, but like was making someplace, you know,

933
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Speaker 1: making someplace. My captain of the week is gonna be

934
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Speaker 1: who I believe to be the best wide receiver of

935
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Speaker 1: all the rookies. Talking about redrafts, I'm taking Brian Thomas

936
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Speaker 1: Junior number one. Sorry, Malik Neighbors. There's only so many

937
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Speaker 1: guys that are six three six ' four two fifteen

938
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Speaker 1: like Brian Thomas and moves like he moves it, has

939
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Speaker 1: great hands. I was like, I saw this tweet over

940
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Speaker 1: the weekend. They were like, when was the last guy

941
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: that came out that ran sub four three five that

942
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Speaker 1: actually had good hands. I don't know what dropped. There

943
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: was probably a Xavier Worthy player like inspired the tweet.

944
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Speaker 1: I don't even know, And I'm like Brian Thomas Junior.

945
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: He just came out. He's doing everything. He was so

946
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: good in that game on Sunday. He made mac Jones

947
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: look fantastic. The burst that he has to go from

948
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: zero to sixty and that you know, using car turn

949
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Speaker 1: in like a second on that forty one yarder on

950
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: the crossing route was just like it was unbelievable. But

951
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: he ended up going ten for one oh five. It's

952
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: hurting his yards per reception because you know they're only

953
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: going to throw the ball short, but he made so

954
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: many people miss. He's a yak god. He's got the hand.

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00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: He's a much better route runner than anyone expected this early.

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Speaker 1: He is awesome. I'm feeling good about having him number

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Speaker 1: three on my Offensive Rookie of the Year ladder or

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Speaker 1: number four, whatever it.

959
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Speaker 2: Was, number four, I'm checking it right now, and.

960
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: Conky was three. Now he's up. He's moved up over

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Speaker 1: the last week. He's now up to number three. That's

962
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Speaker 1: how much I like Brian Thomas. That was the Captain's

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Speaker 1: drink responsibly. Hit that music, Eric, I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: cut you off shook, So if you have anything left

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Speaker 1: to say, you can use.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm cruising off of this ice coffee that

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00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: I drink in twelve three that morning. I'm ready to go, baby.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, look when when shook his shoehorning a

972
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Speaker 1: Kent State Golden Fire tedes Walker reference, you know he's

973
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Speaker 1: feeling comfortable, and that's what you know. Football is back.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you Tuesday.