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Speaker 1: SF Sketch Fest. See you there and enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: Podcast starts now. What is up?

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Speaker 1: All? Happy Sunday Sunday? Everybody, let's face it, Happy Sunday.

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Speaker 1: How is your Thanksgiving? Oh?

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Speaker 2: My Thanksgiving was good. I was back in I went

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Speaker 2: to Virginia. How is your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: It was incredible. We hosted, I made so many things

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Speaker 1: you would not believe.

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Speaker 2: I believe.

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Speaker 1: Let me know if you agree with this. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking that Thanksgiving is such a I wouldn't go so

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Speaker 1: far as say anti capitalist holiday, but I would certainly

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Speaker 1: say it goes against the you know, the sort of

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Speaker 1: logics of big tech, because Thanksgiving food is inherently so

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Speaker 1: ugly when photographed, and yet we have been taught in

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Speaker 1: our society to cook for the sake of taking photos

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Speaker 1: of the food.

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Speaker 2: I think this is such a good point. I had

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Speaker 2: never thought about the fact that Thanksgiving food is ugly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like uniquely it's actually uniquely delicious and uniquely ugly,

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Speaker 1: which is the one thing that companies don't want is

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Speaker 1: for you to enjoy yourself without it being consumed by others.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think what's an interesting thing about it is

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Speaker 2: it's not necessarily uniquely delicious, but it's like uniquely unique.

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Speaker 2: But it's like you only have it on one day,

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Speaker 2: and so you're like, well, this day, I'm grateful for this.

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Speaker 2: But if I was having this, you know, once a week,

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, can we do something else?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was thinking about that in terms of stuffing.

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Speaker 1: I was like, every year I have the thought, why

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Speaker 1: don't we have this more often? And it's like, because

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Speaker 1: that's how it is, and you can't. It's like, why

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Speaker 1: isn't Jesus born more often? Because he was born once?

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Speaker 2: He was born once, and we celebrate him, and we

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Speaker 2: celebrate him once a year, well twice an Easter, of course, well.

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Speaker 1: And every Sunday of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I had as you know, I was mannic in

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Speaker 2: Toronto and then I went straight to Virginia and I

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Speaker 2: was feeling so East Coast pilled. I was sort of like, damn, now,

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Speaker 2: this is a real place. Sorry, I always have to

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Speaker 2: bring it back to there, But okay, I've been. I'm

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Speaker 2: back in LA and I keep looking around. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what the hell are we doing here? What is this place?

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I went to see a movie and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I live in a damn mall. This whole

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Speaker 1: Well where would you? I mean, it's funny the movie

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Speaker 1: is the thing that is shocking to you, because to me,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you're indoors, you're in a movie theater.

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Speaker 1: That's the one where you can just pretend you're in

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Speaker 1: New York. Just pretend it's the regal in New York.

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Speaker 2: The way you can't pretend. It doesn't feel like the

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Speaker 2: to go to eat food before the movie and you're like, well,

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Speaker 2: everything I walked past is like essentially a pret totally,

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of a bummer cool, Yeah, but you

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Speaker 2: know Sela VI. I also, I have to say I

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Speaker 2: woke up today in a horrific, rancid mood.

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Speaker 1: That why, well, there's no reason for it. That's the

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Speaker 2: It's just like everything I'm taking, I'm taking a shoe

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Speaker 2: with everything I'm walking around, I'm like, you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: having one of those days.

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Speaker 1: Totally. What an incredible time to bring our guests in.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if she pisses you off, Yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Would be awesome. No, I think she's gonna lift me

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Speaker 2: up like a like like a thousand doves' hope.

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Speaker 1: So we're actually counting on it.

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Speaker 3: It's really my department is what pisses you off? That's

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Speaker 3: that's what that's where I live, baby, that's what I love.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're ye and that's where you

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Speaker 1: love and live? And last yeah, yeah, all of it.

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Speaker 1: Would you say you are a positive person, Casey Jane Ellison,

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Speaker 1: please welcome, Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Jane Nelson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I am.

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Speaker 3: I really, like I believe, you know, I really am.

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Speaker 3: I am perpetually disappointed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I am, But I am.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I think, Actually.

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Speaker 2: That isn't interesting. This sort of fits into George's whole worldview.

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Speaker 1: I have a really big worldview that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are sort of have been latching onto it and

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Speaker 1: it's been gaining traction. Which is one of my main

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Speaker 1: beliefs is that pessimism is optimism and optimism is pessimism

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Speaker 1: because like to go on exactly, but you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, as I do, it's unrealistic.

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Speaker 3: You're not listening, You're just not here now. You're actually

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Speaker 1: So you're not here now. And when people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this person's so negative, this person is so cynical, it's like, right,

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Speaker 1: but because they have higher expectations for the world and

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Speaker 1: high high hopes for a living to quote that song,

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Speaker 1: and when someone is like when someone is like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I love everything, isn't it so amazing? It's

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Speaker 1: like you're you're literally so what a depressing existence to

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Speaker 3: Agree a liar?

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Speaker 1: You're well, yeah, a liar at best, at worst, someone

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Speaker 1: who literally has no imagination and no, uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely well.

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Speaker 2: I always returned to Lars von Schreer's Nymphomaniac, of course,

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Speaker 2: where there's the monologue where it's like, some people just

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Speaker 2: want more colors from the sunset, you know, more vibrant pink's,

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Speaker 2: more beautiful oranges, and I'm like, yeah, that's me. It's

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Speaker 2: just like everything disappoints me because I dream bigger.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I will have to interject at this point and

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Speaker 3: say please that literally also gratitude.

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Speaker 2: No, totally, especially this Thanksgiving season. This Thanksgiving season, it's

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Speaker 2: so to be grateful.

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Speaker 3: It's great to be aspirational and to want more and

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Speaker 3: to be gay in that way, but totally we also

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Speaker 3: have to be like, the sun's doing an amazing job

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Speaker 3: and you could never no offense.

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Speaker 2: No, no, you're right, you are right, bitch.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm at a confused in place with gratitude. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm sort of like, I don't know where it fits

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Speaker 2: into my life, like right now, in such a play.

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Speaker 1: Just try right now, try it at once, Just try

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Speaker 1: it just for what maybe just stop complaining for one second?

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Speaker 1: Have you tried that? Oh?

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Speaker 3: God, the question what are you thinking for? Say it now?

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Speaker 4: Don't even think.

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Speaker 2: I'm grateful to be a podcasting. I find it a

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Speaker 2: fun way to express myself.

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Speaker 1: Wow, is that end of list? Or I didn't know

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Speaker 1: just saying in a case as for one thing, I

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Speaker 1: do this is. But I have long thought that these

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Speaker 1: concepts of like gratitude, kindness, open heartedness, these concepts that

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Speaker 1: are seen are so corny, need to be reclaimed by

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Speaker 1: the like cool community, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So you're you're essentially saying kindness kindness punks. I actually

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like, I mean, I hate to say it,

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Speaker 1: but kindness punk was actually super corny and not cool,

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Speaker 1: Like we actually we need it to come all the

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Speaker 1: way back. It's like all the people that are like

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Speaker 1: subversive thing to have and generosity and gratitude. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean this is sort of it's the ethos of you know,

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Speaker 3: Man, happening to me right now, I'm thinking about so, wait,

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Speaker 3: when did kindness punk happen?

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Speaker 4: Did that ever happen? Or we're just thinking maybe.

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Speaker 1: That's so kindness punk. It was part of the world

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Speaker 1: of Chromatica during the Lady Gaga album.

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Speaker 4: Chromatica, during so she Pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she invented the concept kindness punks and it's sort

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Speaker 1: of quickly abandoned it, I will quickly.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember that movement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to call in a movement would be generous.

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Speaker 2: The theme was colors. It was most literally seen in

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Speaker 2: the Stupid Love music video, and that's where the thing

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Speaker 2: about kindness punks. There was like a title card about

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Speaker 3: So is this kind of like spunk, like it had

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Speaker 1: There was a there was definitely it was bright pink,

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Speaker 2: I would say it was a little more elementary school then.

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Speaker 1: A little more elementary school meets streetwear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, street crops, but cropped yellow with big big pants.

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Speaker 1: Big pants, streetwear fonts. Shot on an iPhone.

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Speaker 4: But was anyone wearing these clothes?

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Speaker 3: Like I didn't get out of sweats for two and

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Speaker 2: It's actually did fit in sweats.

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Speaker 1: There were sweats actually, and they were green and pink

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's fit into the universe.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So what was the questions?

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Speaker 1: Like how do we reclaim like how do we reclaim

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Speaker 1: kindness genera city gratitude so that they're not concepts associated

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Speaker 3: Like unfortunately speeches.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately you have to commit to like ethical meanness because

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Speaker 2: you it's just about like genuinely listening and taking in

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because it's like sometimes people are mean unnecessarily and

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Speaker 2: like vengefully and just like taking something else out and

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Speaker 2: sometimes you're like, well that that deserves like a little

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Speaker 2: slap on the wrist because it's like what you're doing

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Speaker 2: right now is frustrating, and.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say that unfortunately, like part of

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Speaker 3: being kind is like being on You have to be

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Speaker 3: being dorky in a certain way because it's it is

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Speaker 3: actually fun. Like if you maybe cool, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what that is or something, but it's like, yeah, cool

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Speaker 3: can be super lame actually if you're so concerned.

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Speaker 1: Well, certainly certainly chasing cool. Yeah, chasing cool is very lame.

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Speaker 3: But also being you just have to like being above

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Speaker 3: it being like cool, Like I think you're you're talking

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Speaker 3: Sure, I just realized, did you contextualize me at all

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Speaker 1: Like, okay, you are totally emoting yeah, the way you

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Speaker 1: First you're like, okay, I want to promote my show.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Then we're like, we're actually going to do a

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 1: Just it's funny because no, it's funny because I so

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Speaker 2: No, No, this is actually so gayzy.

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Speaker 1: We would love to hear about the show, the sold

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Speaker 3: Guys, it sold out, but we added a new show

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Speaker 4: Uh huh, we haven't seen.

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Speaker 1: What is it called.

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Speaker 4: It's called It's My Sister.

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Speaker 1: By Casey j Ellison.

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Speaker 3: Written star and starring wah and yeah, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: I repeat, enough of the sort of Edinburgh trauma plot.

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Speaker 2: That was powerful though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great, that sounds good though, Yeah, let's start.

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Speaker 3: Actually, so the twist is he's a snowman.

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Speaker 1: And again that's why it's good because it's fictional because

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Speaker 3: I have to say that I'm sorry to disappoint, but

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Speaker 3: The premise is the whole The whole show is a

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's like analog play. You're hearing the phone call

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And what are the dates that this is happening again?

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Speaker 4: It's December of Not that it matters because guess.

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Speaker 1: What, it's sold out.

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Speaker 2: No, there's a new night George.

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Speaker 3: Hey, there's standby as well, and like this is a

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Speaker 3: like it's kind of like it's already it's Hollywood. You know,

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Speaker 3: want to see, we'll make it work. No, I can't

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Speaker 3: say it. I can't say that widespread, but you know

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Speaker 1: Do you think that a theater could ever truly catch

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Speaker 4: Girl, Yes, I think.

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Speaker 1: Have you like exciting to me, like the fact that

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Speaker 3: I have Sorry, Sam, go ahead, well sorry, I have

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Speaker 3: My point is like I think that the everything that's happening,

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Speaker 3: Like we're building an actual enterprise where we all can

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Speaker 3: like it's all I think it's sticking, Like I think

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Speaker 1: No, I definitely think overall theater is having a great moment.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: To your point, I have a the.

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Speaker 1: Show started in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's my weird theory that I want you to

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking to a lot. Did you know

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think I knew that about you?

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Speaker 1: Know that about you?

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Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to be clear. I

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Speaker 3: It is fun, and I agree with what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: It's a confusing place. It's like we have everything and

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Speaker 3: It's an abduction. It's hard, and I think they're jumpier there.

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Speaker 3: I'm so jumpy. I grew up jumpy because it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: What are you saying to me? Don't talk to me

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Speaker 4: And then you have to you have to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you have to do a.

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Speaker 1: Lot, and then you have to do a sound bath

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Speaker 1: shooting a little you know, rubber bullet to my forehead.

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00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: This is just ordering coffee, by the way, and then

439
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: by the time you get home, you're like, well, I

440
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: have to do something to fix all the all the

441
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: trauma and all the bruises I have on my body

442
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: from living a life. And that's how you get into scientology.

443
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 3: Yes, and the dry breeze just hits a wall and

444
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: it's the blue building of the Scientology. It's it's actually

445
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: like from Pasadena to the ocean Scientology.

446
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 4: You hit it on the way.

447
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know it's kind of beautiful, but then

448
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: it's but then it's like it's unfair that then someone

449
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: an outsider looks at that and is like, oh, they're

450
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: so out of touch because they're all doing sound baths

451
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: and having green smoothes, and it's like, yeah, that's because

452
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: they have to heal.

453
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: I saw a man take over upwards of twenty minute.

454
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 2: It's to order breakfast this morning, and in a way

455
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 2: that I didn't like if if someone if there was

456
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: like a bomb about to go off, and it was

457
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: like the only way to tap this bomb from going

458
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: off is to like make this interaction last longer. I

459
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: couldn't make it last that long.

460
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 3: It's like Speed.

461
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 4: It's like Speed the movie, but just ordering.

462
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: The bomb will go off, and tempo of.

463
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: The conversation like that minute like that mundane, keep it calm, yeah,

464
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: otherwise the.

465
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: Bomb is going to blow. And this guy was like,

466
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: would have succeeded. It was like I've never seen anything

467
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: like it. And I was like, I feel like I'm

468
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: on a different planet, Like to extend this interaction this

469
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: long in a way it made me so angry, and

470
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: that was like unjustified. This is part of my ransom mood.

471
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm not built for this place.

472
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 4: Are you from? Where are you from? Vermont?

473
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm from the midwestern Virginia, Virginia.

474
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 4: Excuse me.

475
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: We're in the Midwest, like mostly Michigan, but also a

476
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 2: little bit Ohio and Indiana.

477
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: But I think the reason you're not built for it

478
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: is not because you're from the Midwest. It's because you

479
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: spent all of your adulthood in New York.

480
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

481
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what's crazy. You said that, because it's

482
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 4: just it's a citywide thing.

483
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: I was behind this woman ordering like twenty nine barrecas

484
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: or whatever, and it's like then the cashier was like, wait,

485
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 3: do you want them in individual bags? And she was

486
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: like yeah, And then he was like, are you sure

487
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 3: you don't want them in the same box? I can

488
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: get a box. And then she was like, yeah, maybe

489
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: I want it separate. Maybe I want them separately in

490
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 3: separate boxes. And then he goes, are you sure you

491
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: don't want them? Maybe I can put them in bags

492
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: and then a box, and then she was like yeah maybe.

493
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: It just like kept being a discussion and I was like, wow,

494
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 3: the Lord is testing me and.

495
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: I am yeah, but this is good life.

496
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 4: Yes, this is as good as this is.

497
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: This goes back to every interaction being a trauma. It's

498
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: like the constant. The experience of ordering the brecas in

499
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: New York would be just like something you do as

500
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: part of like the fifteen things you do in your morning, right,

501
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: So you're just your goal is to get it done

502
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible so you can go deliver them

503
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: to the big client.

504
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

505
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: But in Los Angeles, the interaction of ordering them starts

506
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, perfect, this is the main event ordering.

507
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's my time to shine.

508
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: Now it's my time, Like this is ordering and I

509
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: better get this right.

510
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: I even think part of the part of my triggered

511
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: response is that this, to me is essential like Midwestern

512
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 2: like when people don't know what to talk about and

513
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: they can't connect emotionally, they're like, okay, let's talk logistics

514
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: for the next hour. Like it'll be like, oh, how

515
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: did you Oh you took sixty five? Oh okay, was

516
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: there traffic? Oh well, I heard the Walmart over there

517
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: is closing soon. Oh actually no, they were adding a

518
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: grocery center. And it's like just the most mundane nothing.

519
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: It's like, how about you just say, like I haven't

520
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: talked to my mother in ten years and like I'm

521
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: so lonely, Like just let's get into it. And everyone

522
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: just wants to talk mundane, mundane mundane mundane here and

523
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: there as well.

524
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: That could be fun.

525
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: It's just weird. How Like I guess that's like a

526
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: stradio lab issue. It's like you can talk about like

527
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 3: really like you know which charger it is and like

528
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: is it jiff or is it GIF? Like you can

529
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 3: do that, but it's like you can put a twist

530
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: on it.

531
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 4: It can be fun. It can be.

532
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: You're sort of like you're reclaiming small talk in the

533
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: way that you have already reclaimed kindness and gratitude.

534
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: I love small talk.

535
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: Well, I love you, and I.

536
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: Want to be clear. I love small talk just like

537
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: when it's like someone you should be able to emotionally

538
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: connect with, Like if it's like a cashier, it's like sure,

539
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 2: like have a little pleasant interaction. But if it's like

540
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: your uncle who has known you since you were a baby,

541
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: like you should be able to talk about something.

542
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, well, actually it's interesting. So the guy, the

543
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: cashier or the barista was like creating this mountain out

544
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: of a mole hill of brecas like in the containers.

545
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: And then when it was my turn, I went up

546
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: and I was like, uh, you have Like I was

547
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: like holding it in, but I had an intimate thing

548
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: to say to him, which was like you have like

549
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: a little bit of something like on your head. And

550
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 3: he was like oh shit, and I was like no,

551
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: it's like fine, like no one noticed, but you know,

552
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: and like we did have an intimate moment. And I

553
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: was like locked and loaded with it because I was

554
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: appalled at the the lack of intimacy with this like

555
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: insane conversation that was about care, but it actually wasn't

556
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 3: about care. It was just like wasting paper, you know,

557
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 3: of time, And then I was and then yeah, and

558
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: I told him about his thing. He got like knocked

559
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: off his game. And but I think, what's your policy?

560
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: By the way, would you tell a stranger about something.

561
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: But he had something, that he had something on his

562
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: forehead if it were a stranger, I think I would not.

563
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: I think I would not if it were a stranger.

564
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't think I would either. But it's like that.

565
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm right. Long year, I think you.

566
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 3: Did after a person after person, and it was getting

567
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: longer with the Brefast thing.

568
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Of course, I needless to say. But I think I

569
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: think were you a sais?

570
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 4: Yes?

571
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: Is that you?

572
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: No? It wasn't me.

573
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: Was there someone else?

574
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: Were you there?

575
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't there. But I was like, if I know

576
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: a line and I know Brecas, it's going to be

577
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: at Safie's.

578
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: There you go bucked it. Shout out safe.

579
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Safe, No, shoutow shout out Safie's.

580
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: I live for the Earl Gray Latte.

581
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: I Wow.

582
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm saying that without any endorsement, like any check at all.

583
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: No, but Savey's should give a special treatment when we

584
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: go from now on. And that's fine.

585
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Let's rush through our first segment so that we can

586
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: get to the topic good point.

587
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

588
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: we're going to ask you a series of rapifier questions

589
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: to gauge your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture.

590
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: It's basically this thing or this other thing. And the

591
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions

592
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: or we will get so upset at you that.

593
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: But I already do have questions. What am I supposed

594
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 4: to say?

595
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Exactly?

596
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: Not exactly?

597
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: Sam go okay, arrested development or caressing a.

598
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 5: Gentleman, arrested development, getting the dick or eating a dick,

599
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 5: eating a dick?

600
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: Mm okay, face tattoo or mace wind do what was

601
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 2: the Oh?

602
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: No follow ups? Even if I don't even understand the question.

603
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: What was it? The first one?

604
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: You're on? Thin tattoo tattoo? Okay, okay, casey mid century

605
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: modern decor or she dyed her hair auburn jador.

606
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: M This one is hard, Yes, the auburn Yeah.

607
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: Fish fry or cis guy.

608
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: Oh fish fry?

609
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: Buying an American girl doll or side eyeing an arrogant

610
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: girl at the mall.

611
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: The side eye mmm, male pattern, baldness or female chatter

612
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: in the office.

613
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: Female chatter in the office.

614
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: Okay, keeping your friends close, keeping your enemies closer, or

615
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: keeping your eyes peeled for that bitch Jessica because you

616
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: know she's always up to fucking something.

617
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: Probably the last one.

618
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, wow, A really good job.

619
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: So it did a really good job.

620
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: I think you did a really really good job. And

621
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: I actually think I really appreciated that for all of them,

622
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: you went with the edgiest one.

623
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: I do do I like edgy? Yeah?

624
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And you know, we are sort of flip

625
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: flumping between different scales right now. Ok.

626
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: But normally basically post election, it's been really difficult to

627
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: decide what the future of the segment is because we

628
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: think there's been a really intense shift in the vibe

629
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: across the country.

630
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that being said, I think I'm going to

631
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: go ahead and give you eight hundred and ninety doves.

632
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: Out of a thousand, out of a thousand. That's good, congratulations. Plus, Oh,

633
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: that is not the kind of scale we're talking about. It.

634
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: This is not school's part. When do I get my dog?

635
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: How many are there overed?

636
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: Okay, they're in the male. They're hands delivered one by

637
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: one Dove bars or do actually Dove deodorant where it's

638
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: a little travel sized Dove deodorants.

639
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I don't okay, I'll take it.

640
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: You know, uncented, don't door might Oh that's okay. Well,

641
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: people your community will love eight hundred and ninety two

642
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: uncnded Dove deodorant.

643
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: And the holidays are just around the corner.

644
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: And the holidays just around the corner. We're actually we're

645
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: releasing our gift guide soon. It's a bunch of things

646
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: that are Dove branded of different kinds.

647
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: Wait, isn't there a Dove soap?

648
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: No?

649
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: Down, Yes, there's definitely do there's also Dove soap, but.

650
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: The body No, I meant like dish soap, just Doves dish.

651
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: No, that's don that's done.

652
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's done.

653
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: But you know, you could just use Dove body soap

654
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: for your dishes. I'm sure it would make them extra

655
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: extra smooth.

656
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: That's true. I used to wash oil.

657
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: What I felt like I was being led down, a

658
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: like I was being proven down a case that I

659
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: was going to be upset about.

660
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: But I think I did well. So I'm just recovering

661
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: from that.

662
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can be really frustrating to be asked a

663
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: question and not know why you're being asked the question.

664
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like it's like a am I being tricked?

665
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Am I? But what I appreciated about your performance was

666
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: that you never strayed from your plan, which was to

667
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: pick the edgiest one.

668
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: Well, I just went with what my heart said.

669
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: Which I think is what you should do.

670
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also what I'm in the mood for, Like

671
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: I'm in the mood for a fish fry, not.

672
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: Do it?

673
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: Someone comes to your door and there saying do you

674
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: want a fish fry? Or assist guy? Who is going

675
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: to pick sis? Guy?

676
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: It depends on the guy. Who's the guy?

677
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, can we see him? That's true? I guess

678
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: if it was you know, Paul Hollywood, then of course.

679
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 4: Which is in here?

680
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: Get in?

681
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: Okay? So Casey, we would love to know what your

682
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: straight topic is for the day and what is straight

683
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: about it?

684
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 4: Okay?

685
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: Well I kind of was sneaky because I just have

686
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: to undermine and be edgy.

687
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: It's sort of amazing, thank you.

688
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm slippery, but okay, the topic is sisters.

689
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm.

690
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: Saying, well, of course you're you know, the topic is

691
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: a tie in. It's a collab if you will with

692
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: your it's a plug.

693
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: But it's also very straight. I feel like sisters are

694
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: always like, like, imagine a boy, a guy, he has

695
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: a sister, Like, can you imagine something so more straight

696
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: than more straight than that?

697
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

698
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 3: Then imagine like a girl she has a sister. That's yeah,

699
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: that's very straight too. But imagine like imagine just like

700
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: another girl. Yeah, imagine a sister, she has a sister

701
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 3: that's gay.

702
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying?

703
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: Wow, you think about when the sisters.

704
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: More removed, the more removed from the main character, you get,

705
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: the gayer it gets.

706
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I'm not sure. I'm going to confirm that.

707
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: To me. Here's to me, what's straight about sisters as

708
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: a topic. It's when there's a family and it's four

709
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: the kids are four girls and they're all blonde, or

710
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: like three of them are blonde and one is a brunette.

711
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: And even though they're all basically identical, the brunette is

712
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: like the crazy one and everyone's like she's brainy, she

713
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: wears glasses, like, oh, she's like kind of ugly.

714
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're also you're thinking sort of a bad sister's way.

715
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm definitely thinking boat to it. But also,

716
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: just like you know those families where it's just like

717
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: four girls and they are all even if they're not Christian,

718
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: the vibe is Christian and they're all wearing you know,

719
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: little sun dresses. As soon as they each hit twenty

720
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: seven they start having kids, then it's like a big family.

721
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: We're talking kind of a lavender maybe knit cardigan.

722
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 2: Here's what's straight about it to me is the four sisters.

723
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: In particular, when there's four sisters, immediately it becomes there's

724
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: like an implied competition of like we have to get married. Yes,

725
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: like I think there's a there's like an assumption of like, well,

726
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: where's the man here? We have to get married. I

727
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: guess I'm thinking pride and prejudice.

728
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: I was literally about to say, it's so Jane Austen. Yes, yeah,

729
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: it's so pride and prejudice.

730
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: It's so like dowry, coded dowry. Dowy's a lot of dowry.

731
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: We've got to split up.

732
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Yes, so there are limited dowery.

733
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not enough dowry.

734
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: And God forbid, the father is ill of Oh my god?

735
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: And also what's going to happen with the sheep?

736
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

737
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: The way you know, I don't even have to say it.

738
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: Little women, little women, folks, folks, little women.

739
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: Little women, two words, little women.

740
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: Here's what it is.

741
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: This is what's also straight about that. So when you

742
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: go into that where there's the four sisters, but actually

743
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: like some of them are subversive and some of them

744
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: are like career and more genius style girls, then there's

745
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: still one a.

746
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: Man exactly and that is exactly ill straight.

747
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: And that makes them still like, well is it a

748
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: man or is it my book?

749
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

750
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 4: And it is like that's an issue, you know.

751
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: The false promise of like diversity within the sister community, like.

752
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: It sets up watch your mouth, watch your mouth.

753
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: It sets up this like you're where one of them can.

754
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: Wait what no, just like we're edging into misogyny. Just

755
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: want to alarm No no, no, no, no, no, Which is

756
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: I get it? First of all, you a woman is.

757
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: Not gonna tell me when I'm dic into misogyny. I'm

758
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: gonna decide when I've drig into misogyny. It's true, But

759
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: it's like if you have little women and if you

760
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: have the if you have Oh, by the way, Bronte's

761
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: sister is not even gonna get into that one. But

762
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: this is also an example, just like it comes up. Yeah,

763
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: you can be the brainy one, you can be the

764
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: slutty one, you can be the smart one or the

765
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: dumb one. But the fact that at the end of

766
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: the day, it all everyone's still looking for a husband.

767
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: It's almost like you're reaching the limits of heterosexuality.

768
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I get it.

769
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: I kind of want a wife.

770
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: I do.

771
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I know kind of like I definitely do.

772
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 3: I get it comes down to that ship the street

773
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: like married thing. But even when you're guy. Yeah, but

774
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: this is interesting that you guys went to corsets with sisters.

775
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is notable.

776
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: You were thinking because I know, I changed, Like when

777
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: you were describing it a was much more. It was different.

778
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: It was like the concept of having a sister is straight.

779
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: I was thinking more contemporary, like where's your sister, Like

780
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: did you pick her up? Or like I don't know

781
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: where the fuck she is, or like she's always late, or.

782
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: Or even like don't talk to my sister like that exactly.

783
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me talk to my sister, put her on

784
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: the phone like that, like some kind of thing. An

785
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 3: older sister is like mad and trying to get in touch.

786
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: Someone's in trouble, someone like needs to be picked up.

787
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: It's usually about getting picked up or dropped.

788
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: Off or dropped off that's right.

789
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 2: And then well your sister has practice and right somebody

790
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: so you can't go hang out with your friends because

791
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: I went.

792
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: Suburban with that, which wasn't even my last Like, I

793
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: don't know why.

794
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: This is interesting. We're doing sort of a roar shack

795
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: test of just like saying the word sister and being

796
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: like where does it take you?

797
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 3: And then immediately, I mean the show is called It's

798
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 3: my sister, which I think is you know what the

799
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: references is like it's my sister, Like it's.

800
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: Oh, like when you see it on the phone, that's good.

801
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's it's my sister. It's like it's

802
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: a blame thing. It's like it's my sister. And also

803
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: just whatever, I'm just giving myself compliments. It's a great

804
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: it's a great turn of phrase, but also reminded of

805
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: hersus burning like.

806
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: That's my sister.

807
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, and sisters it's like the sister.

808
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 4: I got all my sisters with me. It's like it's family.

809
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: Sure, well genderless, I will say, obviously, sisters when you

810
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: divorced it from biological family gets more complicated because the

811
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: term sisters has a different valance in queer communities and

812
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: black communities in like drag it does. It then becomes

813
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: much more complicated, which I think is why both Sam

814
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: and I went to courset. So you didn't want to

815
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: go there because I think that then if you do,

816
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: if you do the like non biological sister, what that

817
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: is doing is taking the strength of these heterosexual sister

818
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: ties and applying it to your chosen family.

819
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: Yes, which is powerful, which is I did undermind the assignment. Yeah,

820
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think the word sister in it's

821
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: in its What it is is a straight word.

822
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: It just is right. It's having a sister.

823
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: It's having a sister exactly, and it's a beautiful thing.

824
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: It's such a it's a community word. It's a word

825
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: that means community and tension, a lot of tension.

826
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something about saying sister like where it is

827
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: even like you're still married to the family element, you're

828
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: like before she is Rebecca's sister. Well, because you could

829
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: just be like, oh, it's Rebecca, and instead you're like,

830
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: it's my sister. Yeah.

831
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: No. This is actually so it because I find myself

832
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: sometimes saying that about one of my sisters to someone

833
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: who knows one of them, Like I could so easily

834
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: be like, that's you know, Margaret, that's not my sister's name,

835
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: but that's you know. You could so easily say her name,

836
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: say her name, and instead it's it's like, I am,

837
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: I want to reaffirm that she is only what she

838
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: is in relation to me. And in that way, I'm

839
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: subjugating women by calling them sister instead of calling them

840
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: by their names.

841
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: Absolutely wow, absolutely wow.

842
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: And so that I think makes it more straight. It's like,

843
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: it's honestly, I'm sorry, but it's like saying wife, like

844
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: the way that wife is so inherently misogynist, because you

845
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: are taking a woman into fying.

846
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: I have to take what you're saying and then give

847
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: it like the positive twist, because I'm a positive person.

848
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Of course, it's like.

849
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Course to call them one your sister or your wife,

850
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: that's my wife, it's like you're you're claiming a stake

851
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: in it. It can be territorial, but it's personal. It

852
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: means personal, it means we have a history. It's like,

853
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: it's like whatever it is. You might not know what

854
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: me and my sister is about, but that's a lot,

855
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: it's everything. Actually, yes, so there is something, yes, like

856
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, but don't don't diminish yourself

857
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: in that relationship.

858
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: George.

859
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: That's true because when you're saying that and you're staking

860
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 3: a claim, you're actually saying like, I exist too in that.

861
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: Right, because of course she's my sister. What's the corelaier

862
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: of that? You're brother, I'm her brother.

863
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: Don't mean to gender, but yes you are, and I'm

864
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: actually you're also her sister.

865
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm also herself. That's true because you're gay, well yes,

866
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: but also because having a sister, as much as we've

867
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: already discussed it's a straight thing. But also to have

868
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: a sister makes you a little bit of a sister yourself. Absolutely,

869
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: in order to reach across the island, have a sister,

870
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: you have to have sisterly attributes. Otherwise it will never work.

871
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: If you're just a brother, and you are firmly a

872
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: brother and you refuse to be anything but a brother,

873
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: You're never gonna actually have a relationship with your sister.

874
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: Your brother has to be a little bit of a sister,

875
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: and a sister has to be a little bit of

876
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: a brother.

877
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: I've never had a brother, and I don't I'm zero

878
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 3: percent bro.

879
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

880
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 4: Wow, do you guys think that, by the way, that.

881
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: You're zero percent bro?

882
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't think you're bro. I don't know about zero

883
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: pro I think you're like.

884
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: To me, what comes at the forefront of you is

885
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: like city city child. You know.

886
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: What I'm getting from you is like.

887
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: What is that like? Biblically is that like?

888
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: Who is that?

889
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 4: Who's the arc type?

890
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm not super familiar with Bible references. Unfortunately, it sounds

891
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: like say Jesus.

892
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: No.

893
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: To me, It's funny that we were talking about cool

894
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: stuff at the beginning because to me, you're like the

895
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: essential the cool.

896
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: Girl m hm. And I actually think the lack of

897
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: brothers ties into that because I think of you as

898
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: like there's something sort of like you live in a matriarchy.

899
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: I do.

900
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: Well, and this whole thing. I'm actually I'm feeling more

901
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: comfortable now. At the beginning, I was like, let's feel

902
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: out the vibe more. I think there's something about your

903
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: like kindness thing that is very real where you are

904
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: both very cool and kind, and that makes it like

905
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: the kindness is almost like whoa, I didn't think she

906
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: was gonna be nice to me, Like she's actually very

907
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: nice in a way. That's like a cool disarming thing

908
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: you can do.

909
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know what else to do, like,

910
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: but anyway, let's I mean, yeah, that's that's true.

911
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: That's me.

912
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, George, Okay, you look like nothing. You're pregnant right now.

913
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: We want to say something.

914
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: First, Well, I'm part sister, so of course that can

915
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: happen pregnancy. No, no, no, I I don't. I I'm

916
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: still thinking about like what it means for you, you know,

917
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: because I also don't have a brother. I guess you

918
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: could say I am a brother. You are, but I like,

919
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about.

920
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: Your Okay, but you're a brother, but you're also the

921
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: dad and little women.

922
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: I'm the dad and little women because I'm the oldest. Yes,

923
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: he's the one who says my little women.

924
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: Oh, he's out at war and then he comes back

925
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 2: in the middle.

926
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. I hated that part.

927
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: By the way, Here's what I'm struggling Casey.

928
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: Were amazing until now.

929
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm struggling with, Casey. It's like, you're a

930
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: queer woman, Okay, Traditionally speaking, it's like a queer man.

931
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: The stereotype is that he's more feminine than a straight man,

932
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: and a stereotype of a queer woman more masculine than

933
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: a straight woman. Okay, so of course there is. Do

934
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: you agree with that generally speaking.

935
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: Queer man is more feminine than a queer woman.

936
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: That's sorry, no, sorry, queer man is more feminine than

937
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: just a straight man. That's just like, yes, yes, And

938
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: then queer woman traditionally is more masculine than a straight woman.

939
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: That's just like the general stereotype you think lesbian, You're like,

940
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: she's going to be a little more masculine than you know,

941
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: Charlotte York. Yes, okay, here's my question, all right, Queerness

942
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: affords a woman a certain level of masculinity, as does

943
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: having brothers, because it makes you a little bit of

944
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: a bro. So how does the masculinity of the adjacency

945
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: to brothers compared to the masculinity of simply being a

946
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: queer woman.

947
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: Well, the answer is uh, gay men, it's just like

948
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: I am a gay man too, or I'm not.

949
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: I'm not.

950
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: I see you know the word I'm I'm really saying,

951
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: but I'm not going to say here yes, yes, but

952
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: that's vibe. It's like, it's it's sister, it's it's sister.

953
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: Is the conduit to being mass being gay?

954
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 4: Mm hm for both?

955
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 2: WHOA wow?

956
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: So have here's what it is. Having a sister is straight.

957
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: Being a sister is gay.

958
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: You tour that.

959
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 3: Being gay if you're if you're in proximity to a sister.

960
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: Exactly right, because the sister having a sister is straight,

961
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: but the sister instills in you a certain energy which

962
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: eventually makes you gay.

963
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: And you must choose to be a sister too.

964
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 3: It is bestowed upon you, but you must choose it.

965
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 3: It's a choice. Well, of course, so that thing is crazy.

966
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 3: I'm really glad we had this talk. It's actually gonna

967
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: help you with my show because that's what my show

968
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: is kind of about.

969
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Being a sister and choosing to be a sister, and

970
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: being a sister, having a sister, choosing to be.

971
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: A sister, and it's conduit ness to gayness or like whatever,

972
00:48:59,239 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: like being.

973
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, connected through that style a kind of stock I do.

974
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: A little bit. Want to talk about brothers for a second.

975
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: We're on the same page. It's crazy. I was literally

976
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: about to bring up a.

977
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: Well, like, first of all, I don't even know in

978
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: the gata straight world where this stands. I just know

979
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 2: that when I'm in a house with all brothers, I'm frightened.

980
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm scared for my life. I don't know what physical

981
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: violence will come, but I know it will come. I

982
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: have one brother and one sister. I'm the middle child.

983
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: So it's a very tasteful little mixture. Uh but when

984
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 2: the only gay, I'm the only gay.

985
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also, your brother is not toxic.

986
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: Mask, No, it's a very it's a very tasteful, tasteful straight. Yeah.

987
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: But like if I'm thinking of like one particular family

988
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: that I knew in high school and it was like

989
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: three brothers, and like I eventually went over there and

990
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: would be like, well, hopefully they think I'm too weak

991
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: to attack, and like, because you never knew, like when

992
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: they were just gonna throw a bottle across the room

993
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: total to one another.

994
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 4: Really boys, Yeah.

995
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, of course, the flip side of four

996
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: girls Jane Austen Little women. Of course, the flip side

997
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: of that is the horror, the blatant horror of four

998
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: brothers all playing lacrosse, four brothers like piling into the

999
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: mini van, you know, just muddy shoes, literally stepping on

1000
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: their mother's brand and new hairdoo. Just disgusting. But this

1001
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: is so crazy.

1002
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: I'm so privileged. I don't even know about this life.

1003
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 3: And like, I didn't even hang out with many boys,

1004
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 3: and like I just sometimes, but I didn't see this

1005
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: inside world. I mean I was straight for a minute, sure,

1006
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 3: but they were very gay. They were very sister people.

1007
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean when I was around like a well,

1008
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: when I was around this family of boys, I literally

1009
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: would turn into sister. I would be like, like, I

1010
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: would essentially be like, well.

1011
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: You fense mechanism.

1012
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was weird.

1013
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: You can make the conscious choice to be a sister

1014
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: just for self preservation, even just in a temporary way.

1015
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm I'm entering this house, I'm in danger.

1016
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: I will be a sister for the next three hours

1017
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: just to get through this play date. Otherwise I don't

1018
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: even know what could happen to me. Yeah, But in

1019
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: terms of the straightness of it, because of course, you

1020
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: know we're saying four Sisters is straight. Jane Austen, Okay,

1021
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: isn't four Brothers straight? But I would argue no, because

1022
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: I think four Sisters is like exactly, yes, it's like

1023
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: it's not. But then it's so over the top that

1024
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: it almost becomes like camp. Like it's like four men

1025
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: that are all basically like ripping open their shirts and

1026
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: like you know, pounding their chest monkey style. That is

1027
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: that's not serious, Like.

1028
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: It kind of turns into a circuit part.

1029
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's a performance camp.

1030
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: That's like, isn't that like the like Jacqueline Novak's show,

1031
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 3: she talks about this like how men are everything they

1032
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: say women are yes, And it's like I think that's

1033
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 3: like lacan or something like sorry whatever.

1034
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, but it's like they are the ones who

1035
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: are sensitive. They're the ones who have short tempers. They're

1036
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: the ones who and I think she uses the penis

1037
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: as a metaphor for this too, where it's like it's

1038
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: like so you have to like coax it out of

1039
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: its shell, but then it's going to get scared it's back.

1040
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: The penis is a woman, yes, yeah.

1041
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, huh so, but that's really interesting. I would

1042
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: maybe in my life I will have seen the boy world,

1043
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 3: but yeah, I've just never or maybe.

1044
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: I've like blocked it out or something.

1045
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: I'm just like, that's so not yeah, but it's not true,

1046
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 3: Like I want to be able to be a part

1047
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: of that world, your world or what is the you

1048
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Yeah, part of that is.

1049
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: A world, like I almost would like to revisit it,

1050
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: but it's like, how would I ever? I mean, I

1051
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 2: do think I think this is like a gay man plight,

1052
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 2: you know, like where you're like you should have fit

1053
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: into that world and then you're like, but you didn't.

1054
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 2: And so now I it'spen my whole life chasing that

1055
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: and being like how can I be this like nasty man?

1056
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: And I never ever actually can reach the heights that

1057
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: they reach, Like they will always be a nastier gayer

1058
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: man than I will.

1059
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: Yes, men will always be nastier gayer than that's.

1060
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: Very true, but you can do.

1061
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: I think gay men are really competing these days and

1062
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: being really that's true that bitch.

1063
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, caymen are out there being that bitch.

1064
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: They are, They're really being even more straight than straight

1065
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 3: can be.

1066
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true, that it's true.

1067
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: Here's my question. So being a brother we've decided is

1068
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: gay because it is camp. What about having a brother

1069
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: because we decided before having a sister is straight, but

1070
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: being a sister is gay?

1071
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 3: Honestly, having a brother, I literally don't know.

1072
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want you.

1073
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not even like even if I'm judging and

1074
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: like trying to critique, I don't know what that is.

1075
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: Brother sounds financial to me. Yes, brother, brother, we're brothers,

1076
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: Like we're brothers.

1077
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: I will say whenever I say, like I'm going to

1078
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: hang out with my brother, I do feel heterosexual.

1079
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh. Interesting, Like there's.

1080
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: Something about like having a close relationship with your brother

1081
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: that's like there's a like innocence there where you like

1082
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: didn't have to grow up, like like it's like simple,

1083
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: It's like you know it's going to be easy. Yes,

1084
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: there's something about having a brother and being like, Okay,

1085
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: I'm going to go hang with my brother where it's

1086
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: like I'm actually checking out of like real life for

1087
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 2: a right.

1088
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: It reminds me this is what I see when I

1089
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: see brother like a blue bear children's book Brother Bear,

1090
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 3: It like a little hot sleepy hat.

1091
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're in a children's book.

1092
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: Yes, they put sleep the Sleepy Time, the Sleepy Time.

1093
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 3: Key bear like kid like like that. But as a teenager, yeah, totally, totally.

1094
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: Huh, I love the Sleepy Time Bear. People.

1095
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: No, you, as soon as you utter the sentence I'm

1096
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: going to see my brother, you become a cartoon. Like

1097
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: you start looking at your hands and they're like turning

1098
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: into just line drawings of a hand. You're like, oh

1099
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: my god, like we're in a children's book. You have

1100
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: a paw. You have a paw, You have a paw.

1101
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: It's you are you are brother bear.

1102
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: You lose a finger, and you lose a finger for finger.

1103
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and you have permission to not worry about social

1104
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: injustices or politics or the election or then use you

1105
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: just it's this beautiful state where you can go back

1106
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: to just being brother bear. Yeah God, that's I love that,

1107
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: me too, Me do. Whereas actually I'm and sorry again

1108
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: to the line of misogyny. But when you well, I

1109
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: was thinking that same when you have a sister. Actually, sadly,

1110
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: what's happening is you are going into this realm of like,

1111
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: oh did I say the wrong thing. Oh oh we could.

1112
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: Is this a miscommunication? I mean going back, yes you.

1113
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 3: Did say the wrong thing, and yes you did because

1114
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: it is an abstract world. It's an opposite of a

1115
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: children's book. It is an abstract film. We are no longer,

1116
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 3: there is no way, there's.

1117
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: No way there. It's a hall of me. You are

1118
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: literally entering into like a circus hall of mirrors. Anything

1119
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: you say ken and will be used against you.

1120
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 3: And George, I want to give you just unsolicited advice

1121
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: when you enter this world where yes, did I say

1122
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: the wrong thing? You're never going to get it right.

1123
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: So you keep trying to be brother in this world.

1124
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: It's never gonna work.

1125
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: You need to let it work.

1126
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: You have to be sisters.

1127
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 4: You have to just be.

1128
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 3: Like I did say the wrong thing, and then see

1129
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: what happens and enter that world of unknown. It's not

1130
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: going to be chill.

1131
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: No, it's not going to be chill no. I mean

1132
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: maybe this is the crux of like, you know, the

1133
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: Battle of the Sexes is like there's this Walus cartoon

1134
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: brother bear world and to the uninitiated observer, they're like,

1135
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: why is that man being so brute? Like why is

1136
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: he being so bear? But in his mind he's being

1137
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: so cutesye and brother Bear. He just he has no idea.

1138
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: He's knocking over plates and the trains and everything when

1139
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: he's like going into the room. Absolutely, And he's also

1140
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: looking at the sister who is basically in like, you know,

1141
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: a one woman adaptation of Chris Kraus's I Love Dick,

1142
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: And he's like, why is she saying words I don't

1143
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: even understand?

1144
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 3: By the way, mine is not like that my one

1145
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: woman show just totally.

1146
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: I think we cracked it, like.

1147
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: You know, we cracked it. I think we cracked it

1148
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 2: in like a pretty big way.

1149
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would say this is going to be like,

1150
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: this is going to go down in the history books

1151
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: as like core Stradio Lab mythology is brothers and so

1152
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: you can.

1153
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: Refer to this. But I do want a shout out

1154
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: at every time you refer to this conversation as canon.

1155
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying?

1156
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is in the canon for sure.

1157
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: And actually, speaking of shout outs, I think it might

1158
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: be time for a final.

1159
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: Segment which is called shout outs, which is called shout outs. George,

1160
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: will you introduce it?

1161
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: I would be absolutely delighted okay, Casey. Our final segment

1162
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: is called shout Outs, and in this segment we pay

1163
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: homage to the classic straight oral tradition of the radio

1164
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: shout out, Thank TRL you're shouting out to your squad

1165
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: back home. What we're each going to do is shout

1166
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: outs something that is absolutely making us so happy week,

1167
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: and we think of it on the spot. So Sam

1168
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: and I are going to think of them now. Okay,

1169
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: I have one, You have one. Okay.

1170
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: I would like to give a huge shout out to

1171
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: Bad Sisters season one. I watched all the Bad Sisters

1172
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: season one just last week, and I was in heaven

1173
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: the entire time. And when I was in Toronto even

1174
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, what am I going to do

1175
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: on this Sunday? I can the whole city is my oyster.

1176
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: And you know what I did. I said, I'm going

1177
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: to sit in my hotel and I'm going to watch

1178
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: seven episodes of a TV show. And I actually have

1179
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: not been so happy in my whole life. I said, finally,

1180
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm taking the pressure off of exploring your city and

1181
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: I am just watching Bad Sisters live it up and

1182
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: be bad. I will say I did watch episode one

1183
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: of season two and I said, oh, no, no, no,

1184
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: I hope they don't undo the perfect ending they had

1185
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: for season one, and it seems like they might be

1186
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: undoing it. And I don't know if I will continue

1187
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: to watch and I will live in the fantasy that

1188
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: is the ending of season one because it was satisfying.

1189
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: It felt good, and honey, it's all fiction, so just

1190
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: let me enjoy the fiction. So shout out to Batist

1191
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: season one, shout us not doing anything when you were

1192
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: in a foreign city, and shout out to Ireland. Woo.

1193
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm scared about season two. Sam. I also just

1194
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: watched the first episode and I don't know, wait.

1195
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: So that you're not even trying to plug my thing.

1196
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 3: You're just like coincidentally watching something called Bad Sisters.

1197
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: It's a good show.

1198
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: You ever heard of it? I need to watch.

1199
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: Oh, it's on Apple TV. It's so good at Sharon Oregan.

1200
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: You'd like it. Okay, okay, okay. I have a Canada

1201
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: related one too, Sam, and I just got back from Canada.

1202
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: What my little piggies. I want to give a shout

1203
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: out to the classic Quebec style hot chicken sandwich. I

1204
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: was not familiar with this dish until my dear friend

1205
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: Sarah Haggie planned a beautiful day for us in Toronto

1206
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: and took me to all the Canadian sites and sounds,

1207
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: culminating in a dinner at this place that served Quebec

1208
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: style hot chicken sandwiches. And I'm sure you're thinking, what

1209
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: the hell is that? It's pretty simple shreded chicken, un

1210
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: buttered white bread with gravy and green beans on top.

1211
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: And that's it. It is an open faced sandwich, piece

1212
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: of bread, shredded chicken, gravy, green beans. It was such

1213
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: a beautiful like introduction to the spirit of Thanksgiving because

1214
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: this was a few days before American Thanksgiving. And you know,

1215
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: I think something I appreciate about Canada is their willingness

1216
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: to let gravy be a year round dip slash topping.

1217
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: I think we are so scared in America to divorce

1218
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: gravy from the Thanksgiving table and it needs to be

1219
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: something that has to be enjoyed with the biological family

1220
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: while celebrating violent colonial histories. And I think what Canada

1221
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: has done is said, you know, we can just serve

1222
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: it at McDonald's on fries. So shout out to Quebec

1223
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: style hot chicken sandwiches. Shout out to sort of anything

1224
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: Keba Quad. In fact, I'm really fascinated by their culture.

1225
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: I know that's different than Toronto. And also, you know,

1226
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: shout out to Gravy.

1227
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: Well, that was beautiful, George.

1228
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: Perfect, thank you.

1229
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 4: Okay, what up?

1230
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: Cuties, which is what I call my fans, That's what

1231
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: my fans are known as, and those of you who

1232
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 3: do not identify as Cuties, I would love to shout

1233
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 3: out first of all, Alfresco Dining. I love you. You've

1234
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 3: always been there for me. I'm from La so that's

1235
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 3: a fact. And I love you so much. Like I

1236
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: love spending too much in this setting. I love a

1237
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: chicken caesar. I love the French fried chicken caesar combo.

1238
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: It's just me.

1239
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I call it the Sharon Stone of lunches.

1240
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: Beautiful.

1241
01:02:53,240 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 3: It's a perfect fun and you know, nutritional extravagance. I

1242
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 3: love like ordering like an orange juice, like things that

1243
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: you can get for much cheaper Alfresco simple things. Yeah,

1244
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: I love Alfresco dining. I used to smoke like a

1245
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 3: psycho and I and that's where I initially fell in

1246
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: love with Alfresco dining, just to smoke in between courses

1247
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 3: and sorry it's a shout out or a condo areno

1248
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 3: all right?

1249
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: Please?

1250
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: And I love friends Alfresco. I love dining solo Alfresco.

1251
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: I love chit chatting with the waiter slash waitress slash

1252
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 3: whatever gender. And I love uh yeah, I.

1253
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 4: Love Alfresco.

1254
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: I love that. God wow, to order an orange I

1255
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: know exactly what you mean about like deciding that, yeah,

1256
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to pay six dollars for an orange juice

1257
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: glass that they just is it literally yes? And it's

1258
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: worth it because that is the experience of drinking the

1259
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: freshly squeeze orange juice outside is literally worth six dollars.

1260
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: I will also say alfres not to be like classes

1261
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: with the Alfresco dining, back to the shoutout, shout out

1262
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 3: to like in and out Alfresco dining. Just like when

1263
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: you take your your your anything outside picnics, sitting outside

1264
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 3: the McDonald's, sitting on the curb having the taco Alfresco

1265
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 3: works work.

1266
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: Alfresco just means outside.

1267
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think dining outside.

1268
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, now I've seen everything in Italian?

1269
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: Yes, what is it?

1270
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 4: What's the actual translation? Fresh to the I think.

1271
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: It means outside al fresco to the fresh English it

1272
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: means fresh.

1273
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: It means fresh, means to the fresh, Yeah, which is experience.

1274
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: You know.

1275
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they knew exactly what they were doing with that

1276
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: one when they named that one.

1277
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, wait, no, I just want to say

1278
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: little Translates says it means cool.

1279
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: Mmmm hello, Hello, are you.

1280
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 4: So much kidding me?

1281
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: Bitches? Wait, so the epitome of cool, to answer our

1282
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: initial inquiry is quite literally dining outing.

1283
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

1284
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 3: I didn't even mind, you, guys, I'm just naturally cool crazy.

1285
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 3: I thought it was just kind and low key.

1286
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: Well yeah, no, it actually means and by the way,

1287
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: al fresco I think literally means in the fresh air,

1288
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: but but it also means in a different literal way cool.

1289
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: Well it means cool, I means wow.

1290
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 4: I mean your Greek. You understand alfresco.

1291
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: I get it more than anyone.

1292
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1293
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, this has been an absolute delight. Yeah, thank

1294
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: you so much for people once again about your show.

1295
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 3: Yes, so it's called It's My Sister. It's a one woman,

1296
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 3: two sister. It's two sisters, one woman show. It's December

1297
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 3: fourth through the seventh that we just added a show

1298
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 3: on the seventh at five pm Pacific Standard. Please come.

1299
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 3: There's more tickets available and their standby at all the dates.

1300
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: So like calmbabes, it's going to be great, and I

1301
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: really want to give this gift to you and to me.

1302
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: My god, I'm so bummed I missed genuinely. I was like,

1303
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: what if there's a way to make it work, and

1304
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: there is.

1305
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 3: I think I'll just go do it on Broadway, like

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Speaker 3: next month, So I'm do it on Broadway.

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Speaker 4: It on Broadway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be great, Okay, perfect, all right, see you

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Speaker 1: on Broadway.

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