1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John, and we are 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: the founding hosts of Okay Storytime Podcasts. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: And we have some foundational stories coming up for you. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: But the thing is this foundation needs a little support 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: from these sponsors. So stick around two minutes and we'll 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: get into the episode. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: My aunt called the authorities on me after trying to 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: steal my late uncle's estate officer. 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: He won't let me take this from him. 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: Trigger warning for child. My family has been toxic since 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 3: long before I, fifty two female was ever born. I 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: was the first of my generation and my mother was 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: the golden child. When she had me, my mother went 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: full pearl clutching thing of the children and demanded everything, 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 3: and the family changed to be family friendly since she 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: was grandma's sweet baby, golden child of perfection who always 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: got everything she wanted. She got away with everything. By 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: the way, this comes from venting Machine Time and if 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: you want to smit your own story, go to the 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: r slash Okay Storytime suppered it. 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota. 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice goofully, 23 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: but we don't have all the answers. Rely know what 24 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: we'd do, so let us know what you would do 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 4: in the comments, and Opie says nobody ever came for 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 4: her because Grandma ruled with an iron fist and that 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: was her perfect, sweet baby, golden child, so they hated 28 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: and resented me the baby. 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: Instead. You're like, well, I can't do anything about oh 30 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: Pee's mom, but oh p Hee's just a little baby. 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 5: But I can do something about this stupid little baby dude. 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: That's literally the plot of Hercules. 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 5: Who put the glad Gladiator h To say this was 34 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 5: deeply confusing and hurtful. 35 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: As I grew up would be mild. You might ask 36 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: why my mother, who had power in the family, didn't 37 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: stand up for me. She never wanted me. Oh I 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: was a baby trap gone wrong that left her with 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: a kid who had needs and no rich husband of 40 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: her dreams. He bailed. She was stuck with a kid 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: she never wanted, who served only to remind her of 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: her failures and suck up resources she didn't want to 43 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: spend on a barfing brat. One of her fis favorite 44 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: things to call me. Even though I have a cast 45 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: iron stomach and almost never throw up, I never throw up, 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: never too strong. 47 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 5: My stomachs may out of the same stuff they put 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 5: on battleshits. 49 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: So he goes, mmmm, No, I don't throw. 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: I could swallow an entire live cannon ball. 51 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: At least that's what she told me whenever I wanted 52 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: anything like attention, food, clothes, or basic human respect. You 53 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: get the idea. I had two irresponsible parents and was 54 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: stuck living with one of them, my uncle Tommy, not 55 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: his real name, was the other, hated scapegoat to the family. 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: Why he was my sweet baby, golden child, perfect mother's 57 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: bad seed twin. He was attracted the same gender. He 58 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: didn't go to college, became a heavy equipment mechanic. He 59 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: also sued the Catholic Church for what they did to 60 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: him back in the fifties when he was an altar boy. 61 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: He ruined the family. He brought disgrace on them. He's 62 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 3: going to heck blah blah. You can connect all these 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: dots real easy with the toxic family that claims to 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: be saintly while using religion as a weapon. Uncle Tommy 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: passed away in July. We were close. He's really the 66 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: only one in the family I was close with because 67 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: he's the only one who didn't hate me for existing 68 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: and ruining everything. He's the one who took me to 69 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: college orientation, showed up to my debate tournaments and school plays, 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: attended my wedding, and was there for me. He loved me, 71 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: and I was devastated at his loss. He also left 72 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: me everything. I've spent the last couple of months dealing 73 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: with all the estate stuff. It's been endless paperwork, logistics, 74 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: sorting through things, and dealing with government agencies, unions, banks 75 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: and all that. He didn't have a lot in the 76 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: way of assets, but he had a house, some retirement accounts, 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: and a couple of cats. The cats are living with 78 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: a friend who lost a fur baby recently and are 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: being spoiled or rotten. No worries about them. None of 80 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: the family came to his funeral. He passed away right 81 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: before a cousin's kid's wedding. Everybody was going to that 82 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: wedding and used it as an excuse to skip Uncle 83 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Tommy's funeral because they couldn't pass. They traveled two weekends 84 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: in a row, miss more work or care about. The 85 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: attracted the same gender uncle they always hated, who was 86 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: out of good standing with their beloved church. We had 87 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: a good turnout of his friends, former coworkers, and local community. 88 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: I was the only family there. I did make sure 89 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: all the family was informed and invited, even the ones 90 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: I hadn't talked to in a solid decade or more. 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: Cut to this morning, the biggest busybody of an aunt 92 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: gave me a call using a number I'd never seen before. 93 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: We'll call her Aunt Sally. Aunt Sally is the kind 94 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: of lady who will tell you to your face that 95 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: you're going a heck, and that she's saying it for 96 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: your own good, so you have time to repent for 97 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: whatever imagined sins she thinks you've committed. She hasn't contacted 98 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: me in over a decade since my mother passed away. 99 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: She decided she should inherit my mother's estate and be 100 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: in charge of everything because her younger sister passing away 101 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: was harder for her than for me, since she'd known 102 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: her longer. She said, my mother never liked or wanted 103 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: me anyway, so how could I be all that upset? Yes, 104 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: she said all of this to my face, including the 105 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: immortal line, You are just a mistake that got out 106 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: of hand. Anyway. You were never family. You don't even 107 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: have a father. How religious of you, how saintly? 108 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always the most pious who can spit the 109 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: most venom. 110 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: Wow. 111 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's so kind of you to say, Aunt Wow, 112 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: I'm sure love that in heaven. 113 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 6: She's a woman of Christ, but she sports the fans 114 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 6: of a viper. 115 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: You can connect the dots as to why I blocked 116 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: her on everything and why we went a decade without contact. 117 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 5: I should have said serpent, Yeah, that was the thematically 118 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 5: correct snake reference. 119 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: You were grace it. 120 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: No, Aunt Sally didn't rest control of my mother's estate, 121 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: although she did try to get the body moved to 122 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: a different funeral home so she could take control. She's like, 123 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: I want control of the body. I want the body. 124 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 7: The body is mine. 125 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: The body is mine. 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? 127 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 5: The body is She hit a large depositive gold within him. 128 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: If you find where the body is buried on cover 129 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: of my treasure, I. 130 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 6: Kept my gold behind his liver. 131 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: Police got involved. I have the report in a box 132 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: in the garage somewhere. She also filed a few requests 133 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: for payment from my mother's estate involving cocktail napkins that 134 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: supposedly were debt markers. One involved a restaurant that hadn't 135 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: even opened yet when the loan was supposedly initiated. That 136 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: was expensive to handle but went nowhere. Now Aunt Sally 137 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: is demanding Uncle Tommy's estate. She's like, well, if you 138 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: won't give your mother's, I want the other one, and 139 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 3: then we'll. 140 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: Call it even and we'll call that a day, say. 141 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: Good night, specifically demanding several family heirlooms he'd been in 142 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: possession of at the time of his passing that my 143 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: grandfather left him back in nineteen ninety six. She's insisting, 144 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm not family, have no right to inherit anything, especially 145 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: not the heirlooms, and actually said something but DNA testing 146 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: me in spite of there being actual film of my birth, I. 147 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 5: Think even if say all of that is true, you're 148 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 5: written on the wei, it doesn't even matter. 149 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 3: She even if she could somehow prove that you weren't 150 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: related to any of these people, it doesn't matter. Yeah, 151 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: because you're in the will. 152 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess unless you could prove that, like you 153 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 5: made like a concerted effort to conspire and fool your 154 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 5: uncle into believing all of this stuff, but like. 155 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 2: You're on the paperwork. What does she expect to gain 156 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: from this? 157 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: Like and I would have gotten your uncle Tommy's estate, 158 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: but weren't for you meddling kids. She accused me of 159 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: embezzlement and theft of elder abuse, of forging documents. She 160 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: admitted she knows it's nonsense, but she doesn't care. She's 161 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: insisting she will get everything she wants via a settlement 162 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: or nobody well, because she can drag this out in 163 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: court forever, even without a lawyer, just by filing endless 164 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: crazy stuff, not how she phrased it. 165 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 5: Did you get evidence of her saying that, yeah, do 166 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 5: you have that in right? Great if you could have 167 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 5: a recording of that, But if. 168 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: I condense the frothing into words that make marginal sense 169 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: together in a sentence. About an hour after I hung 170 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: up on her, police showed up at my doorstep for 171 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: a wellness check. They were very nice about it, but 172 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: wouldn't tell me anything about who called it in. I 173 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 3: asked for a report as I was having an estate 174 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: related family conflict. The police then got even nicer and apologized, 175 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: saying this sort of thing happens around passing in families 176 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: more than most people realize grief makes normal people do 177 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: wild things, and unhinged people even wilder ones. I've called 178 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: the estate lawyer who says she has zero grounds for anything. 179 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: The will was updated right after my mother passed a 180 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: decade ago. It's ironclad. All his siblings were left nominal 181 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: amounts and random chochkeys to prevent them from being able 182 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: to contest anything. One of the random chochkeys is a 183 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: little figurine of a cat flipping the bird. Uncle Tommy 184 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: was a lot of fun. 185 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: It would a baller way to just like leave. 186 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: He's like someone and to my sister, this cat flipping 187 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: you off. 188 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 5: This cat to whom's visit always reminded me of your 189 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: temperament or. 190 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: Something like that. 191 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: You look at this every morning and think of me 192 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: flipping you off. Yes, from wherever I am. 193 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: And here's three hundred and twenty four dollars. 194 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: The problem is any person can file anything they want. 195 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to have to reply to it professionally, pay 196 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: the lawyer for every bit of nonsense, take days off 197 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: work to go to court, and feel like Aunt Sally 198 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: has once again had her claws on me, and there's 199 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: nothing I can do but wait for her to let go. Well, 200 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: I feel like she's going to run out of money 201 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: sooner than you are, seeing how she really wants those estates. 202 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left to this story. 203 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: Any final thoughts. 204 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: I just think it's funny that she's like, and I 205 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: could do. 206 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 6: This forever, even without a lawyer, because I'll just come 207 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 6: up with even more fanciful. 208 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: Lies about you. Yeah, it's like she just goes to 209 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: court and she's trying to. 210 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: Like does it every weekend. 211 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 6: She's like, actually, oh, Pie's a space alien here to 212 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 6: invade and steal our brains. 213 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: I'll Pie one time trip me with a banana. She 214 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: put a banana and I s like, comically yes. 215 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 6: And also I was playing Mariocott and saw that that's 216 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 6: also in there, so she stole that. She plagiarized Mariocott on. 217 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 5: Me in real life. And then the clerk is just like, Tammy, 218 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: we told you you can't come. 219 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: Back, Jimmy. You really can't keep doing. 220 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: This, Cammy. 221 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 5: We told you last time if you came back, you'd 222 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: be escorted out by the police. 223 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to file you in contempt of court. Tammy, 224 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: you know that your public nuisance. But there is a 225 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: little bit left. I'm somewhere between shaking and rage and crying. 226 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: I want to scream. I want a rage. I want 227 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: the world to just stop already. I want these people 228 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: to leave me alone. Fine, they don't want me in 229 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: the family. I left, so did Uncle Tommy. Why can't 230 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: they just let the passed away rest in peace and 231 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: the people who left because they were clearly unwanted and 232 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: unloved stake on. If anybody got this far, thanks for listening. 233 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: I just needed to get this out somewhere. Screaming into 234 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: my pillow was not enough this time. I have cameras 235 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: on the house, everything as two factor. My credit reports 236 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: are down. There is nothing else to do except rage, cry, 237 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: and wish I had been born into a family that 238 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: wasn't obscenely toxic. Here's open whatever, break from reality. Aunt 239 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: Sally is having Peter's out really really soon. What do 240 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: you guys think though? And there are some comments comment one, 241 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: this kind of rage means your body is still treating 242 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: these people like a threat because they weren't. The Best 243 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: thing you can do now isn't another legal or moral battle. 244 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: It's containment checklist. Keep all calms in writing, never call 245 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: create one legal inbox and ford every estate email there, 246 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: review twice a week. Only write one line template for 247 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: any police or court contact. My a journey is handling 248 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: all estate matters every night for ten minutes. Stump every 249 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: angry thought onto paper, then shred it. It stops the looping. 250 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: The goal isn't justice, it's peace. They already stole enough 251 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 3: of your time and that's the end of that story. Folks. 252 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 5: My aunt bricked my phone just to teach me a lesson, 253 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 5: and I finally. 254 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: Sit she did what to your phone? 255 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: Trigger warning emotional and verbal abuse for starters. I'm twenty 256 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 5: six female and was diagnosed with autism ADHD, depression, IT 257 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 5: and anxiety a long time. 258 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: Ago in a galaxy far far away. 259 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 5: My parents passed away when I was younger, and I 260 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: lived with one of my aunts when they passed Aunt one. 261 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: We shall call her, No, we won't. We're gonna call 262 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 2: her Patricia. 263 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from user aquatic Kickcat, and 264 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 5: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 265 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 5: the r slashowcase stories. 266 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: I'm Subrendit, I'm Dakota. 267 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and we're here. 268 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: To give you good advice. Goofily, but we don't have 269 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: all the answers. 270 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 5: We only know what we would do, So if you 271 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: would do something different, let us know in the comments, 272 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 5: as oh P says and Keon's in the background. So 273 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 5: she basically invalidated every feeling I expressed to her, often 274 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 5: telling me that behavior is more important than feelings whenever 275 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 5: I told her I was feeling rather down and not 276 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 5: in the mood to do my chores. She would also 277 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: frequently tell me that I'd never be independent or responsible 278 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 5: just because I have small memory issues and struggled with 279 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 5: doing homework to the point where I refused to do 280 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 5: it because I felt it would have been better than 281 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: getting frustrated. I currently live with a home care provider 282 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: after a mental health crisis that caused me to go 283 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 5: on a twenty four hour hold and they put me 284 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: on a conservator ship because of it, which I was 285 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 5: against from the start but didn't really have a choice. 286 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: There are a. 287 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 5: Few instances that highlight how my aunt treated me growing 288 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 5: up and how she still treats me currently. When I 289 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: was a freshman in twenty thirteen fourteen, I was doing 290 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 5: a homework assignment on word. My laptop was going to 291 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 5: do an automatic update, and I couldn't remember if I 292 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 5: saved and sent the file to my teacher. So I 293 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 5: got out of bed to make sure I saved it, 294 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: and Patricia asked what I was doing. I told her 295 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 5: I was making sure I saved my homework assignment. Instead 296 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 5: of letting me do that and then go back to bed. 297 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 5: She got mad at me, asking why I didn't do 298 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: it before, and tried to rip my laptop out of 299 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 5: my hands. She ended up breaking it. Luckily I did 300 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: save and send it to my teacher. She took it 301 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 5: to the repair shop, and I had it until it 302 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: just stopped working completely. The next laptop she got, she 303 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 5: changed the password on and promptly forgot it, so she 304 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 5: had to buy me a new one. 305 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: Also, she's stupid because you could just reset the computer. 306 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: You can like wipe the computer. I like, she bought 307 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: you a new one because she forgot the password. 308 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 5: She physically physically broke a different laptop and got that 309 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 5: one repaired. Forgot the password to get into a laptop, 310 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 5: and said, I'm buying into nothing I can do here. 311 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 5: Junior Year, twenty fifteen sixteen. I wanted to go home 312 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 5: from church after the service ended but Patricia made me 313 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: go with her to my adoptive grandma's house. I didn't 314 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 5: want to go. I was sixteen. We got into a 315 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 5: fight in the car. I put my headphones on and 316 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: she ripped them off my ears and broke them. 317 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: Like, is your aunt Superman? 318 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 319 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: Is your aunt spider Man before he learns how to 320 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: control his powers? And she's just breaking things? 321 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: Does she have webbing of some kind? 322 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: She broke them like wires, ripped apart, broken. After the visit, 323 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 5: she went out and bought me new headphones. 324 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: This is the funniest part to me, though, is that 325 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: she them because I feel like sometimes you have like 326 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: really awful people, like you know, parents or guardians or whatever, 327 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: who will break things and then they're like, well it 328 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: wasn't my fault, that was yours. Yeah, and then you 329 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: don't get anything new. 330 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: But she breaks them and she's like, tang it a 331 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 5: another misshapen Yeah, she's just trying to keep her powers secret. 332 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: Oh okay, now we're at Aunt two, whose name is Brock. 333 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 5: Aunt two, who will henceforth be known as Brock, told 334 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: me that Patricia was worried about how other churchgoers would 335 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 5: think of her when I started wearing tank tops. Like, 336 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 5: it's not even those spaghetti strap ones that show a 337 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 5: lot of skin. It was sport tank tops. Also, there 338 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 5: were kids in church who wore booty shorts. She's worried 339 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: about me wearing a tank top. 340 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: Fair enough. 341 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 5: The only reason I even got a phone was because 342 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: I kept using the band director's office phone to call 343 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 5: her and tell her that band practice was over and 344 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: she needed to pick me up. 345 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: And even then it was a flip phone. Nice. 346 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: I didn't get a smartphone until three years ago after 347 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: I lost my flip phone again, like it was right 348 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 5: next to me and it vanished. Her reasoning for me 349 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 5: not having a smartphone was that I would lose it. 350 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: They actually have these. 351 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: Pretty handy things where you called a find my iPhone. 352 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: It's actually harder to lose a smartphone than it is 353 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: to lose a flip phone. 354 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, they have you can track them, so Opie continues, Lady, 355 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 5: it's a smartphone. I had an iPod Touch at the time, 356 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 5: and I always kept tracking that thing. You think i'd 357 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 5: lose something that's basically an upgraded iPod Touch. She locked 358 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 5: me out of my medical my chart. 359 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: That was probably an accident. She probably forgot the past words. 360 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 5: She probably just forgot the password for that, and then 361 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 5: wonders why I don't know anything about my appointments. Earlier 362 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 5: this month, I wanted to make pasta for lunch because 363 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 5: I knew my ride wasn't going to arrive for like another. 364 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Hour or so. 365 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 5: Patricia flipped out when I asked if I could make pasta, 366 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: took the pasta bag and put it in her bag. 367 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: An a whole move on my part, probably what I 368 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: took it out. She forcedfully to take it out of 369 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: my hands and still has an a apologized for it. 370 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: I thought she was gonna break the bag of the 371 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: postuma is gonna spill. 372 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: She's gonna throw the pasta on the ground. It's gonna 373 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: explode everywhere. 374 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 3: And then she's covered in sauce. Who is this lady? 375 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: I think I think your aunt is the Hulk. 376 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: She's walking out. Ah, that's my secret cap taking. I'm 377 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: always taking your I'm always your aunt. 378 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 5: And now the current events and the reason I'm making 379 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 5: this post all right, We've got all the backstory, folks 380 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 5: strap in for current events. So I'm staying with her 381 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 5: again because my home care providers are going out of 382 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 5: town I hate Patricia because of how she treats me 383 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 5: like I'm still a teenager and not a twenty six 384 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 5: year old. She basically ordered me to go out and 385 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 5: do something not recommended ordered. I told her no, that 386 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 5: I plan to just stay home because I go out 387 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 5: literally every day, therapy program three days a week, and 388 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 5: random stuff the other two and I just wanted to break. 389 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: She got mad. 390 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 5: We got into an argument, and then she told me, 391 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 5: if you don't go out tomorrow, I'm cutting your phone off. 392 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 5: Brock pays for my phone bill with my inheritance money. 393 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: I called her bluff. She was not bluffing. 394 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 5: So on the way to my program, I was just 395 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 5: scrolling through Instagram, something I actually haven't done in months. 396 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: Then my phone stopped loading. I figured it was just 397 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: my data being slow, but then I decided to call 398 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 5: my therapy program as I was getting anxious. The call 399 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 5: answered as welcome to phone provider, Press one to speak 400 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: to a representative. 401 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 2: It was bricked. I was fuorious. 402 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 5: I vented about it nearly all day in the program. 403 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 5: My case manager there and the program director called and 404 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 5: tried explaining to her that I can't have my phone bricked. 405 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 5: I came home before her, and she was on the 406 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 5: phone with Aunt Brock and they were basically talking crap 407 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 5: about what happened. Then they ganged up on me for 408 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 5: being immature and said, this is your consequence. This is 409 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 5: really awful, folks. Is she immatured or is she disabled? 410 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 5: Like make up your mind? Like she has an in 411 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 5: a home care provider, like clearly, like like your level 412 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 5: of mental health issues she struggles with is a detriment 413 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 5: to her day to day. 414 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, pick one. 415 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 3: It's confusing, like because they keep demanding this independence but 416 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: also refuse to give her any measure of independence. 417 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is terrible. 418 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: It's like incredibly controlling. 419 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 5: I tried to stay calm, I really did, but I 420 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 5: eventually got so angry and overwhelmed that I blew up, 421 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 5: told them to shut up and leave me alone, cursed 422 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 5: at them, slammed the door to the room I was 423 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 5: staying in, and threw my. 424 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: Shoes at the wall. 425 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 5: I was crying hard. I already had a crappy day, 426 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 5: and they just made it worse. My fault for thinking 427 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 5: my case manager and program director would get through to them. 428 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 5: I called nine eight eight immediately and spilled everything there. 429 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 5: But now I'm second guessing whether I overreacted to my 430 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: phone being bricked. 431 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: So Reddit, am I the a hole? No? 432 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: I mean you're in a really, really hard situation in 433 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: which you have kind of no autonomy and you're twenty 434 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: six years old. You've said that you have kind of 435 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: disability in which that you need help, but you're mentally 436 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: there everything, So like the fact that they are pushing 437 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: you know this much is kind of ridiculous. 438 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, we got some comments here. 439 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 5: Comment one says, so there's a lot to unpack here, 440 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 5: But I do have a couple legitimate questions, if you're 441 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 5: willing to answer them. Are they taking care of you 442 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 5: because they have a legal obligation to do so? Are 443 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 5: they getting paid to do so? Why are they letting 444 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 5: you stay with them? They Aunt Patricia doesn't seem to 445 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 5: care for you or your issues. Do you have means 446 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: of taking care of yourself, like a job, income, et cetera. 447 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 5: Or do you rely on Patricia to provide for your 448 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 5: needs at least while you stay with them. Are the 449 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: home care providers you're referring to, Aunt Brock or someone 450 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 5: else that might hold conservatorship? Opie replies, I have no 451 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 5: idea if they're getting paid to do this. Since both 452 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 5: my aunts can serve me, Patricia is the closest to 453 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: my therapy program as it's in the same county, while 454 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 5: Brock lives more inland and takes a lot longer to 455 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 5: get to my therapy program. 456 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: I actually barely know the. 457 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 5: Terms of my conservatorship other than finances and estate. I'm 458 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 5: currently unemployed, but I have inheritance my parents left me. 459 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 5: None of us know how much is left, though I 460 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 5: believe both my aunts are lying. 461 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah they are. I know they know she is left. 462 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, they know. There's no way that they couldn't know. 463 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: In the fact that you don't know how much inheritance 464 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 3: you have, they are so manipulative and I'm sorry the 465 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: amount of things that your aunt has broken just to 466 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: waste your freaking inheritance. 467 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, they stealing all your money. Yeah, they're stealing your money. 468 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 5: Anyone who's supposed to be in charge of all of 469 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 5: your money and then tells you, I don't know how 470 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 5: much is left. 471 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: They're stealing your money. 472 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 473 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: They keep calling it. 474 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 5: My parents' money, but they left it for me, and 475 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 5: you're using it to pay for my stuff, So you're 476 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 5: using my money to pay for whatever bills I have. 477 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 5: The home care providers are through a different program called 478 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 5: Community Support Solutions. Supposedly it's supposed to help me be independent, 479 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 5: but from what I've seen, it doesn't work. I regularly 480 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 5: get told that I'll never be independent since I can't 481 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 5: keep my room clean and I overreact and all of 482 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 5: my depression, anxiety, sensory issues and stress are all in 483 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 5: my head. 484 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: Well, yes, it does. It make them not mean technically 485 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: they are all that's exactly your head, Yes, just like 486 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: your brain. Sorry, my blood's all my body. What does 487 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: that mean? 488 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 2: Your blood's all in your body? You could get blood disease. 489 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: Doesn't make any sense. 490 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: I know there's another program that lets me live independently 491 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 5: while helping me find a job and provides me with 492 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: a life coach to help with that if I ever need, 493 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 5: and to check up on me to make sure I'm 494 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 5: safe and folks, that's the end of that story. 495 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: John. 496 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: Here, we're gonna get back to this juicy story, but 497 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: a quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors. 498 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 7: My girlfriend is buying a crazy amount of lingerie. Now 499 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 7: I'm getting suspicious. 500 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 5: Uh, maybe she just really likes photos. 501 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 6: Shoot, yeah, she's. 502 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 2: Starting a new side hustle. 503 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 7: Over the last two and a half weeks, my twenty 504 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 7: four male girlfriend twenty four female has bought close to 505 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 7: nine new pairs of lingerie. This is unusual because she 506 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 7: bought seven new pairs somewhere. 507 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: At the beginning of April. 508 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 7: Now, I don't mind a girl buying new lingerie, but 509 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 7: this is unusual. She had close to forty new pairs 510 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 7: of lingerie account that keeps decreasing. 511 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: Every other day. 512 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 7: By the way, this comes from Throwaway for May fifteen. 513 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 7: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 514 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 7: to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. I'm Carly, I'm Dakota, 515 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 7: I'm Keon, and we're here to give good advice Goofily, 516 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 7: but we don't have all the answers. We only know 517 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 7: what we would do, So let us know what you 518 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 7: would do in the comments. And Opie says, I take 519 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 7: out the trash every day, and I've noticed that she 520 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 7: hasn't thrown her old lingree in the trash for the 521 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 7: past week, while there's no trace of it anywhere in 522 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 7: our apartment, and yet she's missing four to five pairs 523 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 7: from our shared closet. She has been acting pretty normal, 524 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 7: with no change in her daily routine. But it boggles 525 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 7: me why she is on this lingerie shopping spree. It's 526 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 7: not like she's amassing a stockpile of lingerie. Her total 527 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 7: count is roughly the same as before all this started. 528 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 7: I couldn't find any trace of her old lingerie. Am 529 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 7: I being paranoid? Am I missing something feminine that's otherwise normal? 530 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 7: Should I ask her about it? Editors note Karen is 531 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 7: girlfriend's older sister. We have an update. I guess I'll 532 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 7: just dive into this. 533 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, dive into this economic report because it's gonna be 534 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 5: telling us how much money she's making selling them. 535 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 7: I might ask her while we drive down to the 536 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 7: train station in the next thirty minutes. I'll keep you 537 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 7: guys posted. Update two. All right, I chatted with her 538 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 7: while driving. I started off by asking her directly, as 539 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 7: fight max Master suggested. She said something like she hasn't 540 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 7: been feeling good about her underwear fitting old and new 541 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 7: while at work, so she's taken a new vow if 542 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 7: she finds any underwear incredibly uncomforta she'll throw it away immediately. 543 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 7: I asked her about not seeing any in our trash, 544 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 7: keeping a casual tone, and she said, since we spend 545 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 7: most of our daytime at work, she disposes of them 546 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 7: in her workplace bin and carries a spare pair of 547 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 7: underwear like most women do. 548 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 8: Uh. 549 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 7: I even joked, Oh, I was worried you were selling 550 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 7: your undies on eBay or something, just to get some 551 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 7: kind of reaction, and she ewde my remark. Do women 552 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 7: really do that at work? Get rid of their old 553 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 7: underwear when they find it uncomfortable? I could really use 554 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 7: some insight on this, to be honest. We moved in 555 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 7: together at the beginning of this year, and this is 556 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 7: my first time living with a girl in a relationship. 557 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 7: I don't know what else I could do since she's 558 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 7: made it clear she tosses them at work and hasn't 559 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 7: shown any signs of doing something spicy related or selling 560 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 7: them online. I tried to make this conversation as casual 561 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 7: and curious as possible. Update three, This is way too overwhelming. 562 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 7: I'm heading back home and taking a day off. I 563 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 7: know I might be overreacting, but somehow the conversation we 564 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 7: had an hour ago just doesn't sound right. I might 565 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 7: talk to her again during her lunch break have another update. Seriously, guys, 566 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 7: thank you. I've been glued to my phone all morning, 567 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 7: except while driving back home. It took me a lot 568 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 7: of convincing to piece together clues that my girlfriend might 569 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 7: actually be selling her underwear online. Back home, we have 570 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 7: a place to store open mail, receipts, bills, and other 571 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 7: important documents except for our social and personal stuff. There 572 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 7: were six receipts in total, two from a fancy under 573 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 7: a brand, three from a casual chain store, and one 574 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 7: from a department store chain. Based on my account, she's 575 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 7: bought around twenty eight to thirty pairs of new Lingerie, 576 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 7: including the ones from early April. Two receipts had Karen's 577 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 7: name on them. Found Karen, Guys, we found Karen, my 578 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 7: girlfriend's older sister. 579 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: You put it in the middle. 580 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: Though, why we need the other note we found her. 581 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 7: I believe Karen has some kind of rewards card from 582 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 7: the first place, which accounts for about forty percent of 583 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 7: these purchases. Until now, I thought she'd only bought around 584 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: fifteen pairs. I don't want to invade her privacy by 585 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 7: checking her bank statements, because that feels like crossing a line. 586 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 7: But I can't believe she's spent over eleven hundred on 587 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 7: lingerie in the past forty five days. 588 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but how much is the return on investment? 589 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 7: That's what I'm confused, Like, are we do you not 590 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 7: like that she might be selling it online? 591 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: Or do you just really. 592 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 7: Want to know that she is, Like is it just 593 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 7: the unknown or is it like I really don't like 594 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 7: that she sells. 595 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 5: Appreciate knowing that about Well, I think it's totally fair 596 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 5: to know that. 597 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 7: I'm just wondering if it's because he's like I don't 598 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 7: want her doing that, or if it's just like I 599 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 7: just want to know. 600 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean if you kept buying lingerie, Like if 601 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 8: you bought twenty to thirty pairs of lingerie within a 602 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 8: span of two months, I too would be kind of concerned. 603 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 7: And like track my drawers. 604 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 8: No, I wouldn't do that, be like, so like, what's 605 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 8: going on? I don't know. That's Very's the same thing 606 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 8: with me, Like if I bought if you bought thirty 607 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 8: pairs thirty pairs of lingerie. 608 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 7: I wonder what you and Dakota were doing. 609 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: I think my gut is telling me though, that this 610 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 5: guy's gonna be like and it's disgusting what she's doing. 611 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 2: Like. 612 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 7: That's the reaction that I'm afraid of is that I 613 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 7: think when she admits it, he's not gonna be on board. 614 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: Just showing the paycheck, yeah, I hope. I hope the 615 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: paycheck is good. 616 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 5: Imagine you're just like, yeah, I've made one hundred and 617 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 5: fifty dollars. 618 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 7: I have a storytime that's about my for one of 619 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 7: my first roommates that I ever had for. 620 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: When this is done, I wonder what they did. 621 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 7: I wonder that's incredibly unusual. It's also odd that she 622 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 7: hasn't paid using our shared card, even though we both 623 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 7: have the app on our phones. I'm calling my brother 624 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 7: over to get some clarity. I don't know if it's 625 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 7: right to check her laptop or browsing history to confirm 626 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 7: if she's selling her underwear online. I'm just numb right now. 627 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 7: Update five. I spoke to my brother and saw some 628 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 7: of your comments. I've decided to confront her in person 629 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 7: when she's back home. I don't want to risk miscommunication 630 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 7: or assumptions that could make things worse for her or me. 631 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 7: Update six. 632 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: You know those days. 633 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 7: When everything falls apart. 634 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: This was one of them. 635 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 7: I skipped calling her during lunch, hoping we could talk 636 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 7: when she got home. In the meantime, I spoke to 637 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 7: Karen and her mom to make sure my girlfriend wasn't 638 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 7: in financial trouble or anything serious. But it only took 639 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 7: one truth to destroy everything. You guys, My girlfriend saw 640 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 7: this post at work and immediately knew it was me. 641 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 7: She ended up leaving early that day. Around four hours ago, 642 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 7: she confessed that she's been sleeping with a guy she 643 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 7: met at her work gym since the beginning of the life. 644 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: Ooh, and that's worse than what I thought it was. 645 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 7: That's where I was going with it at the beginning, 646 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 7: and then I was very quickly convinced otherwise. That's the 647 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 7: worst outcome. 648 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: She's not making any money from those. 649 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 7: It's not missing handaloon's, it's at his house. 650 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: She's just leaving them at someone else's house. 651 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 7: She met this guy about eight months ago. He doesn't 652 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 7: work with her, but at another startup in the same 653 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 7: corporate park. 654 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: She said. 655 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 7: Things escalated in late February after one afternoon. I honestly 656 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 7: thought she stopped going to the gym after her promotion 657 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 7: in November, but no, she'd been going all along. When 658 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 7: she started sleeping with him, she told her coworkers she 659 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: had switched to another gym across the street. I didn't 660 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 7: even ask where they did it. The missing underwear, this 661 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,239 Speaker 7: is so messed up, she said. She started buying new 662 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 7: lingerie and throwing the old ones as some kind of 663 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 7: guilt ritual. 664 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: Dang. 665 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 5: She's like, as long as I throw these the way, 666 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 5: I never had to think about it again. 667 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: It's like I threw the whole night away. 668 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 7: She told me she couldn't handle the guilt of wearing 669 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 7: the same underwear with me that she'd woren hours earlier 670 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 7: with him. 671 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 8: That logic is crazy. She's like, yeah, this underwear's dirty. 672 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 8: Throws it away. I'm clean now, I can go to 673 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 8: I can go home to Ope. I'm a good person. 674 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 5: Yes. 675 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: The mental gymnastics for that make me afraid. 676 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 7: Do you know how disgusting that feels? Who does that? 677 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 7: Throw away underwear just to cleanse the guilt from cheating? 678 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 7: I was frozen, trying to keep myself together. 679 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: She said. 680 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 7: She realized it was wrong and has stopped seeing him 681 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 7: for about a week now. I don't believe her, not 682 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 7: even a bit. And the throwing underwear at work story 683 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 7: That was a lie she made up because she didn't 684 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 7: know what to say while I was driving. I later 685 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 7: called Karen because both so us were emotionally wrecked. She 686 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 7: came over right away, but I couldn't stay even She 687 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 7: was shocked when I told her everything. She called me 688 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 7: later after I'd left the apartment. It took me some 689 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 7: time to think straight and call my brother. I'll be 690 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 7: crashing at his place for now. Honestly, I don't even 691 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 7: want to see her face ever again. How can someone 692 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 7: lie so perfectly? How can someone be so cold, showing 693 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 7: no emotion while sleeping with two people. She slept with 694 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 7: me hours after sleeping with that guy and throwing away 695 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 7: the underwear was her way to feel cleansed. I don't 696 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 7: understand her anymore. When she said it was all just physical, 697 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 7: I couldn't even process it. She said she still loves 698 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 7: me and that sleeping with him just made her feel good. 699 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 7: I don't even know what that means. My thoughts are 700 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 7: all over the place, but thank you. Honestly, I don't 701 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 7: think i'd have known the truth if not for this post. 702 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 7: It blew up after dinner, and that's when she realized 703 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 7: it was trending. That's why she took the early train home. 704 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 7: I've so many questions. Part of me wants to see 705 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 7: her again to make sure she's okay. The other part 706 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 7: never wants to see her again. I just walked out 707 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 7: when she came home. I asked my brother and his 708 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 7: wife to pick up some of my stuff. This whole 709 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 7: thing is a mess, and we have an update twenty 710 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 7: seven hours later. I have taken sick leave today. I 711 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 7: just wanted to say huge thanks to the people who 712 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 7: commented on my post from yesterday. I wanted to let 713 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 7: you guys know that I've read each and every comment 714 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 7: up until late last night. If it wasn't for your 715 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 7: awesome responses, I would have never even dared to ask 716 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 7: her about her behavior in the first place, or she 717 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 7: would have never come back home early to confront me 718 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 7: about this. After viewing that post on Reddit, I was 719 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 7: able to get some sleep. Yes, I'm at my brother's 720 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 7: place while she is staying with Karen, who was her sister. 721 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 7: By the way, Karen reached out to me late last 722 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 7: night and asked if we could meet early morning at 723 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 7: a coffee shop and chat. So I did. We talked 724 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 7: a lot about what happened yesterday. Since she partly confided 725 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 7: Karen about why she did what she did, here are 726 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 7: some key takeaways. She doesn't know why she began sleeping 727 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 7: with this guy in the first place. It just happened. 728 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so useless. 729 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 5: I'll I'll just give it a tagline at the end 730 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 5: of each reason here. 731 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: First one, you sliss? What kind of information is this? 732 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: You sliss? 733 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 7: Second one, she feels terribly sorry for what she did 734 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 7: to me and hopes we can work things out. Empty 735 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 7: she has already broken up with that guy a week ago. 736 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 7: She felt it was wrong and there's no excuse for it. 737 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 5: Oh, you broke up with the guy you were cheating 738 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: on me with. 739 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: I didn't know you had to do that. 740 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 7: She asked Karen to buy stuff from the underwear store 741 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 7: using Karen's credit card because she felt it would be 742 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 7: awkward to explain it to me if we were to 743 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 7: review her finances. We used to do that together to 744 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 7: cut her expenses and pay aggressively towards her student loans. 745 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're just a sneaky little snake. 746 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 7: Next, she claimed that spicy sleep with this guy was 747 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 7: completely carnal and that there were no feelings or affections involved. 748 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 7: She said she got lured by this because her new 749 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 7: responsibilities were way too overwhelming for her. But again, she 750 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 7: maintained that she didn't know why she started sleeping with 751 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 7: this guy in the first place. I don't think I 752 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 7: want to know who this guy is or whether it 753 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 7: was him or her who made the first move. Thinking 754 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 7: about it is so effing depressive. I should have noticed 755 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 7: how she was able to maintain her body despite quitting 756 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 7: the gym late last year. 757 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 5: Uh oow ah ah, stop talking. 758 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 7: That. Being said, I still don't understand what must have 759 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 7: made her impulsively sleep with that guy and jeopardize our 760 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 7: relationship in the first place. I think I'm gonna eventually 761 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 7: weigh in those reasons before I decide what to do next. 762 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 7: I have been trying to assess if I could have 763 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 7: picked up any clues that are otherwise typical of a cheater, 764 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 7: and it's so strange that she hadn't had any of 765 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 7: those characteristics. I mean, the fact that she confessed she 766 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 7: was able to convince her coworkers that she goes to 767 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 7: the gym across the street instead of using the free 768 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 7: gym at her workplace, by itself is so infuriating. I 769 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 7: don't think I would have ever doubted her cheating on me, 770 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 7: because you don't see those cliche staying late after work 771 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 7: or texting someone constantly's symptoms when she was around at home. 772 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 7: I think if I try to understand what made her 773 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 7: get in bed with this guy, I'll just get myself 774 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 7: deeper down the rabbit hole. Karen also said that even 775 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 7: she couldn't truly understand what was going on in her 776 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 7: head when she decided to have this fling with a 777 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 7: completely unknown guy and put our relationship at stake. Though 778 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 7: Karen did make a full disclosure that my girlfriend once 779 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 7: cheated on a guy as a teenager back in high 780 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 7: school and things turned out ugly back then. I was 781 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 7: a bit surprised since I didn't know this before. We 782 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 7: both knew our relationship and or dating history midway through 783 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 7: her relationship, but not this. That was quite a long 784 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 7: time ago. And by the way, Karen a sweet lady. 785 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 7: She even wrote each of us a letter before we 786 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 7: moved in together. This is so ironic. I lurk on 787 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 7: Reddit via my main account to get updates on Apple 788 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 7: and makos, while my girlfriend used to thoroughly read two 789 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 7: X chromosomes. She would sometimes read out a post here 790 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 7: and there, asking me what I thought about some posts 791 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 7: on Reddit from a guy's perspective, leading to one of 792 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 7: those small talks. Little did I know that our life 793 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 7: would be one of those relationship questions to be a 794 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 7: topic for a small talk among other redditors or couples 795 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 7: here online. Nonetheless, I truly appreciated your responses. I would 796 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 7: have dragged this thing for days or even weeks, getting 797 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 7: more and more worried and obsessed about my girlfriend's behavior. See, 798 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 7: when you move in together, no one ever tells you 799 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 7: what boundaries to set and what things to avoid. Were 800 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 7: the boundaries not cheating with someone. 801 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 5: I specifically asked you, But you did it anyway? 802 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: No, actually, no, it's the opposite. 803 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 5: It's yeah, No, I mean you never told me not 804 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 5: to cheat on you for eight months, you didn't say that. 805 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 7: I think I made a mistake there. Maybe I should 806 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 7: have checked on her from time to time to see 807 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 7: if something had been bothering her at work when she 808 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 7: was drained from work after her promotion before we moved in, 809 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 7: I seriously thought it would be better if I gave 810 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 7: her her own time and not bring up work talk 811 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 7: during dinners or when we hung out together. Little did 812 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 7: I realize that this could have made her look for 813 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 7: comfort elsewhere. I can also affirm that I have been 814 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 7: around her as long as she needed me. But I 815 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 7: guess we were both busy complimenting each other in our 816 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 7: apartment by who gets to do what for the upkeep 817 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 7: of our surroundings, groceries, social responsibilities, instead of just being 818 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 7: in the moment and listening to one another. 819 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, starting to blame. 820 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 7: Yourself, dude, this is perfect. 821 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm starting to get the sense that we're like, what 822 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: did I do an? Nah? Nothing, She cheated on you. 823 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 5: She made a conscience decision to bang that dude because 824 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 5: she liked it. 825 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: That's why, you know why? 826 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 5: She doesn't know because the real answer would make her 827 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 5: the bad guy. 828 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: So she gets to go, I don't know why I 829 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: did it. I don't know why, which is. 830 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 7: What every cheater ever always said. 831 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 5: And the real answers I wanted to Yeah, I did 832 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 5: it and I liked it. I did it and I 833 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 5: kept doing it because I liked it. 834 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 7: I just picked up my car and got off from 835 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 7: my meeting with Karen at the coffee shop. I have 836 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 7: the remainder of this weekend all to myself. While my 837 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 7: brother and his wife have been incredibly supportive, I thought 838 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 7: of getting myself checked into the first available counselor even 839 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 7: if that's just one time. I haven't told any of 840 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 7: my friends or coworkers about it, so I'm going to 841 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 7: be social life as usual unless I come to a 842 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 7: decision as to what to do next. So now our 843 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 7: apartment stays deserted while I figure out what to do next. 844 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 7: We've got a little bit left. Any last thoughts. 845 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't blame yourself. It's not your fault that 846 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 2: this person is. 847 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 6: Who she is. 848 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 5: You didn't make her this way, you didn't neglect her, 849 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 5: and even if you did, doesn't justify doing this. It 850 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 5: justifies a conversation where you go, hebab, you're neglecting me. 851 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 5: I feel maybe a little neglected. Hey beb hebb, I 852 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 5: feel neglected. I'm gonna cheat on you, okay. 853 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 7: Okay, bebe edit. By no means do I feel exactly 854 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 7: the same for her as I did yesterday or while 855 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 7: typing this post. I thought I still cared for her 856 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 7: last night, but that gradually got replaced with rage and nausea. 857 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 7: Even when I think about her. Don't worry. I'll be 858 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 7: fine as time goes by. I have just confirmed an 859 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 7: appointment with a counselor and my PCP to get myself 860 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 7: checked for anything fishy. Uh and my counselor had already 861 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 7: read my previous post before I had even checked into 862 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 7: her office late afternoon yesterday. She referred to me, as 863 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 7: you were the guy who posted about his girlfriend's lingerie 864 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 7: behavior right a few minutes into our session. Man, it 865 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 7: seems everyone on Reddit likes to lurk on this sub. 866 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 7: I'm okay, though, feeling better, just a bit insomniac. Some 867 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 7: replies from op what happened after the confrontation. She was 868 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 7: crying really hard. At one point in time, she fell down. 869 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 7: I was angry as heck. I was constantly trying to 870 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 7: keep myself in control and not do anything stupid. Back then, 871 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 7: when I was leaving, she was still crying, but Karen 872 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 7: was there around her. I didn't look her in the 873 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 7: eyes while I was leaving because I was just pretty 874 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 7: confused and angry. That's the end of the pastur. 875 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 5: I finally snapped at my fiance's ex, and now she's 876 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 5: being investigated. 877 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 7: Snapped like a rubber band. 878 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 5: To preface before reading I was nice for months, then 879 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 5: I turned to ignoring her and blocking her. But this 880 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 5: woman is the air pay of drama. She just keeps 881 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 5: coming back and I finally snapped. By the way, this 882 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 5: comes from lots of flat He's uh thirty nine to 883 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 5: ten And if you want to submit your own stories, 884 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 5: go to the r slash Okay storytime. 885 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 2: So about it. 886 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 5: I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, I'm Keon, and we're here to 887 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 5: give you good advice, googly, But we don't have all 888 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 5: the answers. We only know what we would do, So 889 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 5: if you would do something different, let us. 890 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 2: Know in the comments. 891 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 5: As Op says, my fiance is baby Mama is the 892 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 5: most emotionally unstable person I have ever met. She can't 893 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 5: help but start drama at least once a day. She 894 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 5: repeatedly texts my fiance daily and complains about everything and 895 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 5: then tells him everything is his fault, that he's a 896 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 5: bad dad and a bad man. Mind you, he is 897 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 5: probably the best father I have ever met, and everyone 898 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 5: we know says the same thing about him. She'll spam 899 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 5: text him articles from social media, claiming he needs to 900 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 5: figure out his inner trauma and that he has childhood drama, 901 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 5: which is completely untrue, and that he's pushing his issues 902 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 5: onto his three sons. His parents are still happily married 903 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 5: and are amazing. She comes from broken home and is 904 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 5: on her third marriage as she has cheated on every 905 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 5: single x well. Her current relationship is a fake marriage 906 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 5: as it was done out of the country without a 907 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 5: marriage license, but she wears a fake ring and posted 908 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 5: pictures on social media telling everyone she was married. Recently, 909 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 5: my fiance told her he was going to file to 910 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 5: amend their child's agreement to set some major boundaries. Their 911 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 5: current agreement is the most gray and fluid thing ever, 912 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 5: not setting any schedules or policies. She had free legal 913 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 5: aid and he had a crap attorney. She flipped out 914 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 5: after parent teacher comferences at their son's school. She blocked 915 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 5: him in the parking lot with her three sons in 916 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 5: her car and stood there sobbing about why would he 917 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 5: do this to her? Remember, he only wants to update 918 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 5: the schedule and add some rules, as she drops the 919 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 5: kids off whenever she pleases and follows zero schedules. She 920 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 5: wouldn't let him leave and kept crying louder, all in 921 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 5: front of the kids. She then proceeded to tell their 922 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 5: sons that he's a bad man, that he's a bad dad, 923 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 5: and he's gonna try and take the boys away from 924 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 5: her and never let her see them again. She then 925 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 5: had her six year old FaceTime my fiance, bawling his 926 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 5: eyes out, asking his dad why he was trying to 927 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 5: take him away from his mom and why he was 928 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 5: being a bad man. If that doesn't scream alienation, I 929 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 5: don't know what does. That was just one of hundreds 930 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 5: of things similar to that that she has done. However, 931 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 5: this week she decided to take some serious jabs at me. 932 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 5: As he shows me everything and tells me everything, I 933 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 5: became fully aware of the drama she was starting again. 934 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: She had the audacity to. 935 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 5: Say we don't even know each other and aren't in 936 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 5: a real relationship because we don't live together. I have 937 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 5: three kids as well, and out of respect for our children, 938 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 5: we chose not to move in with one another until 939 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 5: after we're married. She said, our relationship is unstable and bad. 940 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 5: She called me a bad mom. She refused to speak 941 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 5: to my children when she met them and said something 942 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 5: is off with me and that maybe he's whipped because 943 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 5: of Spicy's sleep, because why would he ever want to 944 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 5: be with me. We have been together for over two 945 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 5: years and have never had a fight. We've even done 946 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 5: family vacations with all six kids and have had the 947 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 5: best time. This is the most stable and amazing relationship 948 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 5: I've ever been in. Regardless, she went on to say 949 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 5: that she doesn't trust me, that I have issues, and 950 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 5: that he shouldn't trust me and he needs to really 951 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 5: ask himself if he's in the best situation. This is 952 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 5: after she told him last week that sometimes she regrets 953 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 5: ending things with him. It was also the same day 954 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 5: that her faux husband caught her on Tinder. I asked 955 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 5: my fiance if I could text her, Oh, why would 956 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 5: you do that? I sent him a draft and he said, 957 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 5: at this point, go ahead, She's not gonna listen anyways. 958 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 5: So I texted her the following message, Anna, this is Lindsey. 959 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 5: This can go one of two ways. Way number one, 960 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 5: we either get along and you drop the drama, or 961 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 5: way number two, I. 962 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 6: Will become your worst nightmare. 963 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 8: That was my worst nightmare. 964 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 2: Here's the difference between me and you. 965 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 5: You are unhappy, miserable in a relationship depressed because you 966 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 5: barely work and have no social life. You're stuck because 967 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 5: you have everything paid for, and if you didn't have Peter, 968 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 5: you'd be on food stamps. You manipulate Charlie's children, lie 969 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 5: to them, and try to cause alienation towards the best 970 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 5: dad ever. All it takes is one call to DCFS 971 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 5: and you're screwed. I understand that you're jealous of Charlie 972 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 5: and I. He's in an extremely happy relationship. His parents 973 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 5: love me, My parents love him, Your boys love me, 974 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 5: my kids love him. 975 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 2: We have never had a fight. 976 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 5: There is nothing he wouldn't do for me and my kids, 977 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 5: and the same goes from me towards him and his kids. 978 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 5: You cheat on everyone you're with, can't figure out how 979 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 5: to be happy, but then gaslight every guy in your 980 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 5: life to say you have trauma. 981 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 2: Give me a break. Your trauma is people calling you 982 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 2: out on your BS. 983 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 5: You put out this persona that you have it all 984 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 5: together and everyone else has problems. Stop diagnosing people from 985 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 5: the dumb crap you read on Instagram. You sound so uneducated. 986 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 5: You already know how sad your life is and wish 987 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 5: you hadn't pushed Charlie out because he was the best 988 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 5: thing that ever happened to you. You Google me see 989 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 5: that I'm in a legal case with my landlord, But 990 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 5: what you don't know is that it was filed over 991 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 5: inhabitable issues that he refused to pay on. 992 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 2: I'm winning my. 993 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 5: Lawsuit because he will pay me fifty thousand dollars because 994 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 5: I have some of the best lawyers in the state. 995 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 5: I don't live off my parents or my fiance. You 996 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 5: think you're an Internet sleuth, but in reality, you are. 997 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 2: A pathetic joke. 998 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 5: I have a very successful business in ninety five percent 999 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 5: custody of my children. I know my worth, I know 1000 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 5: my status, and if I like you, I'll go to 1001 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 5: war for you. We are not the same. My attorney 1002 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 5: drafted an entire custody order for Charlie to drop on you, 1003 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 5: twenty pages long that will royally screw you over because 1004 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 5: you're living illegally out of state. But he is too 1005 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 5: nice of a guy to slap you with it. It 1006 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 5: were me, you would have lost custody months ago. The 1007 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 5: alienation you try and cause having your six year old 1008 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 5: FaceTime Charlie sobbing because you're an emotional head case. That 1009 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 5: alone is valid for you to lose custody. We're documenting 1010 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 5: everything you do. You're a hot mess of a train wreck, 1011 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 5: pushing your emotional mess onto Charlie's children. If your oldest 1012 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 5: tells you soon he only wants to live with Charlie, 1013 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 5: don't be surprised. They see how psychologically damaged you are, 1014 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 5: and they see how hard Charlie tries, and they see 1015 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 5: a great mother in me, which sadly they don't get 1016 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 5: from you. Your emotionally damaging antics only prove you need 1017 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 5: medication and a lot of therapy. I feel bad for Peter. 1018 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 5: He deserves so much better, just like Charlie did. Karma's 1019 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 5: a witch, and you have the most negative energy of 1020 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 5: anyone I've ever met. No crystals will save you. You 1021 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,720 Speaker 5: need an exorcism. Keep my name out of your mouth. 1022 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 5: Don't text Charlie about me again, don't disgust me with 1023 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 5: your children, and please, for the love of God, get help. 1024 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 5: Sad and pathetic life will never interrupt our relationship and 1025 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 5: the awesome family we have built. Stop hating, stop inserting yourself, 1026 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 5: and get help. Please, for the sake of Charlie's kids. 1027 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 6: She she ain't reading all that, or maybe she is I'm. 1028 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be real, Opie. Was a lot. 1029 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was only that was only for you to 1030 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 2: be clear. 1031 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 7: I think that was more than we needed to say, 1032 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 7: and I think that some of those threats were not 1033 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 7: nice things to say. 1034 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 3: That was a lot. 1035 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was probably a lot of that could have 1036 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 5: been first draft. 1037 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 2: Ye write that as a letter that you burn. 1038 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 7: Your emotions out, this is everything I feel in my heart, 1039 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 7: and then we're gonna go and edit it, which we 1040 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,240 Speaker 7: skipped that step. 1041 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, could have boiled that one down to a couple 1042 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:53,919 Speaker 5: of paragraphs. 1043 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. I'm wondering too when I see some people in 1044 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 7: chat saying and also like if that could have any 1045 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 7: negative issues for Charlie and his kids when he's like 1046 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 7: going about custody stuff like yeah, go, you really told her, 1047 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 7: but that could come back and bite you. 1048 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, but I don't know how it 1049 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 5: would affect because she's not a parent. 1050 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 2: I mean she she's not. 1051 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 7: But if Charlie knows about that and there's like confirmation 1052 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 7: that he agreed to her sending it and everything. 1053 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's probably that I would. 1054 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 7: Get where she was coming from, and I like, for 1055 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 7: sure she's a terrible person. Could have been a first draft, 1056 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 7: but sure you sent it. 1057 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 5: This morning, she called Child Protective Services and falsely claimed 1058 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 5: that my fiance his sons, he has never laid a 1059 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 5: hand on them, to be clear, and that he's a 1060 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 5: heavy drinker and uses substances. The last time I saw 1061 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 5: him drink was three months ago at a baseball game 1062 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 5: where he had one drink and he was and he 1063 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 5: has never done any drogas my super. 1064 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 2: Sweet vanilla man. 1065 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 5: Now he's under investigation for the lies she could and 1066 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 5: the boys were pulled out of class to be interviewed. 1067 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 5: My fiance was devastated. I've never seen him cry, and 1068 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 5: he was near tears today. So I battled for him. 1069 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 5: As a teacher in Illinois and a mandated reporter. I 1070 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 5: filed a claim against her for emotional alienation in Illinois 1071 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 5: and in Wisconsin, where she has been illegally living with 1072 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 5: her faue husband for over three years. She moved her 1073 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 5: and the boys in there four months into their relationship, 1074 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,479 Speaker 5: so the boys now live fifty percent of the time 1075 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 5: over an hour away from their dad out of state. 1076 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 5: I then filed fraud reports with Illinois DHS because she's 1077 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 5: using medicaid EBT and free legal aid from Illinois using 1078 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 5: her mother's address, but she's been a resident of Wisconsin. 1079 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 2: For over three years. 1080 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 5: I also informed DCFS of this in Illinois and CPS 1081 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 5: of this in Wisconsin. I think this needed to probably happen. 1082 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 5: This probably did need to happen. 1083 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not saying it's a bad thing that happened. 1084 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 7: I'm just saying you went wild with that text. But 1085 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 7: it's the way you need to go. 1086 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. 1087 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 5: It's just hard because I hope this doesn't become like 1088 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 5: a well if you do get majority custody and she 1089 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 5: loses like a lot of her custody, and then the kids 1090 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 5: are gonna be like, did. 1091 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 2: You take us away from Mom? 1092 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 5: And then you have to be like, Okay, I have 1093 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 5: to explain to you how the world works, because no, 1094 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 5: I didn't. Mom actually wasn't allowed to have you because 1095 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 5: she's going through a lot and she has problems she 1096 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 5: needs help with and because of that, she can't take 1097 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 5: care of you guys the. 1098 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 2: Way she needs to. 1099 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, And so I'm going to take care of you 1100 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 5: guys while she gets better. And then when she does, 1101 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 5: you know, you'll you'll be seeing her more and she 1102 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 5: still loves you and blah blah'd say all the right things, 1103 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 5: but it's like. 1104 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 7: I think there's also like the beginning of that text 1105 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,240 Speaker 7: was very much like do you want to just drop 1106 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 7: it and move on? Or do you want me to 1107 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 7: be like your worst nightmare proceeds to be your worst 1108 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 7: nightmare without even giving you the chance to drop it. 1109 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1110 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm still not like she still sucks and like 1111 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 7: Dakota that it was necessary, but I'm in shock. 1112 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 5: I'm also having my attorney file in order of protection 1113 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 5: against her for pestering my fiance and emotionally children, and 1114 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 5: I'm listing his boys on the order of protection. In 1115 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 5: the meantime, my attorney's helping my fiance redraft the parenting 1116 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 5: agreement to take away child support and give him seventy 1117 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,720 Speaker 5: percent custody. She is now under investigation in both states 1118 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 5: and will likely be charged with defrauding the State of Illinois, 1119 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 5: amongst other things. My fiance is super worried that she's 1120 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 5: going to do something crazy, but I say, let the 1121 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 5: judge handle her. Now. 1122 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole? Or did she bring this 1123 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,919 Speaker 2: all on herself? Oh? 1124 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 5: And ps, she swears by crystals and says she's trying 1125 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 5: to live life with positive energy. 1126 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 2: Yes, I laughed too, and that is the end of 1127 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 2: that story. 1128 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, because she is anything but a little bundle of 1129 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 5: positive energy, that's for sure. 1130 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: Hey, it's sam og Hos. We're going get back to 1131 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: these delectable stories. But here's three minutes of ads from 1132 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 1: our sponsors to help support the show. 1133 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,240 Speaker 5: My mother in law believes every lie her grandson tells 1134 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 5: and it's made me the villain. 1135 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 8: Ah, we love a villain origin story. 1136 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what her problem really is. 1137 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 5: Me and my boyfriend moved in with her about a 1138 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 5: year ago and things were okay in the beginning until 1139 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 5: my boyfriend's nephew, which would be my mother in law's grandson, 1140 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 5: moved in with us too, But for some reason she 1141 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 5: started treating me differently. The nephew and my mother in 1142 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 5: law talk bad about me behind my back, and I 1143 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 5: really have done nothing. 1144 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 2: But be nice to both of them. 1145 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from user forever Royal, and 1146 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 5: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 1147 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 5: the r slash Okay story time suburt it. 1148 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Keon. 1149 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 5: And we're here to give you some good advice. GOOFIY, 1150 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 5: But we don't have all the answers. We really know 1151 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 5: what we would do, So if you would do something different, 1152 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 5: let us know in the comments. As Op says, he's 1153 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 5: gotten into her head big time about me. I think 1154 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 5: he talks awful about us to her. Some of the 1155 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 5: things she does, for example, always and I mean always 1156 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 5: giving us snooty tor he looks. She makes smart comments 1157 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 5: to me all the time, complaining about literally every single 1158 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 5: thing I do, even the way I wash dishes. She 1159 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 5: says I need to do it her way. My boyfriend 1160 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,280 Speaker 5: got into a wreck. We were sideswiped by another vehicle 1161 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 5: and unfortunately it totalled out her truck, which she never 1162 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 5: even used, by the way, But for some reason, the 1163 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 5: nephew and my mother in law thought I was driving 1164 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 5: and totaled her truck. It's like, why do they think 1165 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 5: it was me when it was my boyfriend. She just 1166 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,800 Speaker 5: thinks awful about me, and if I use something of hers, 1167 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 5: for example the vacuum, She's instantly at our door, knocking 1168 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 5: and asking. 1169 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 2: If I'm done with it. 1170 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,240 Speaker 5: She's got mad at us one time and went around 1171 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 5: the house to put notes on all of mine and 1172 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 5: my boyfriend's belongings that said Bob and Taylor stings do 1173 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 5: not touch all. Because my boyfriend asked why there was 1174 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 5: a note on the milk his nephew bought that said 1175 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 5: no one can have this but me and grandma. 1176 00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 8: That's weird. 1177 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 2: What is going on? What is going on here? 1178 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 5: She got mad because she wanted to know why he 1179 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 5: was being selfish like that, so she went around the 1180 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 5: house and put our names on all of our stuff 1181 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 5: just to be smart, basically because she was upset and 1182 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 5: thought that we were causing problems talking bad about her grandson. 1183 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 2: It's so immature and childlike. 1184 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 5: I also can't have any friends over because the looks 1185 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,439 Speaker 5: and smart comments I get are literally insane. 1186 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 2: My friend Haley came over to hang out with me 1187 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 2: the other day, and I could start to feel the 1188 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,240 Speaker 2: tension right away. She started giving me dirty stares and looks, 1189 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 2: but I ignored it like always and decided to get 1190 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 2: some water out of the kitchen. Of course, here comes 1191 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,439 Speaker 2: my mother in law. 1192 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 5: She looks at me so hatefully and says, when is 1193 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 5: your friend leaving? And well, you know your friend cannot 1194 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 5: move into my house? 1195 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 8: What yeah visiting? 1196 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 5: I was like, Uh, who said anything about my friend 1197 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 5: moving in. She said it in the rudest way possible, 1198 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 5: but she doesn't ever say anything to the nephew's friends 1199 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 5: being over for hours and hours. My friend was only 1200 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 5: over for a couple hours, and my boyfriend literally told 1201 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 5: her before she made that comment to me that Haley 1202 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 5: was locked out of her house when her grandmother got home. 1203 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 2: I was going to be taking her home. 1204 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 5: But she still came to me with the smart comments 1205 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 5: every time I have someone come over, which is super 1206 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 5: rare to begin with, because all my friends tell me 1207 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 5: that they feel very unwelcome and very. 1208 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 2: Unwanted whenever they come over. 1209 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 5: Her and the nephew talks so much crap on me 1210 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 5: and my girlfriends, And when I say we don't bother anyone, 1211 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 5: I truly mean that. I was washing my car yesterday 1212 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 5: and she asked me if the car soap I was 1213 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 5: using was her grandson's. I said, no, this is my soap. 1214 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 5: It's like, why in the world doesn't matter whose soap 1215 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 5: it is? 1216 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 8: You should be like, there's a sticky note on it. 1217 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 8: See it said our stuff. 1218 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 2: When are we moving out out right? 1219 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 5: Mother in law was hoping I would say yeah so 1220 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 5: she could tell me to put it back because apparently 1221 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 5: I'm not allowed to touch anything that belongs to my 1222 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 5: boyfriend's nephew. And We've been nothing but polite and shared 1223 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 5: anything that anyone wanted. No one even has to ask 1224 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 5: me to use my things. I just wasn't raised that way, 1225 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 5: and I don't care if anybody uses my car, soap, 1226 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 5: or anything of mine that's in the garage. If anyone 1227 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 5: needs it, they're more than welcome to use it. We 1228 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 5: all had a very big talk about three months ago 1229 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 5: because I kept wanting to know why I kept getting 1230 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 5: horrible attitude from the nephew about every little thing that 1231 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 5: I said or did. So we all sat down and talked, 1232 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 5: and he told me that he thinks that I take 1233 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 5: advantage of his grandma, which would be my mother in law. 1234 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 5: I asked him how is that. He said, well, for example, 1235 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 5: you wrecked her truck and I said, I absolutely did 1236 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 5: not wreck her truck. He said, well, that's what grandmaad. 1237 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 5: I looked at her and I said, you know that 1238 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 5: I wasn't the one who wrecked the truck. She looks 1239 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 5: up at both me and my boyfriend and says, well, 1240 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 5: I wasn't for sure who it was. I just maybe 1241 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 5: thought it was you that actually did it, so you kept. 1242 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 8: You so you just kept banking on that even though 1243 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 8: we've told you numerous times that I didn't wreck the truck. Yeah, 1244 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 8: but you're still gonna play I don't know. 1245 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 2: Card here, we're at the direct confrontation stage and she can't. 1246 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1247 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 5: She's like, yeah, my boyfriend looks at her and says, no, Mom, 1248 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 5: I told you I was the one who was driving, 1249 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 5: not Taylor, so you did know it was me. But 1250 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 5: yet she's still telling Christopher she thinks it was me 1251 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 5: who wrecked her truck. And it's just that they both 1252 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 5: have this hate towards me. I really don't know why, 1253 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 5: because I'm literally one of the nicest people anyone could 1254 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 5: ever meet. 1255 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 2: I haven't done anything to either of them. 1256 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 8: Also, does she think you guys wrecked on purpose? 1257 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Take it on a side swipe. 1258 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 8: It was a side swipe. You're like, hey, you know 1259 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 8: what we're gonna do. We're gonna take my mom's truck 1260 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 8: that she never uses, and we're gonna go just like 1261 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 8: Monster struck him. We're gonna go in the hills and 1262 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 8: just go yeha, let's do. 1263 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 2: This would have been a better way to total it 1264 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 2: for sure. 1265 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 8: I the fact that she's holding that against you, and like, 1266 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 8: how are you feeling? Are you okay? That must have sucked? 1267 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 8: Are you hurt? 1268 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 5: Like come on, I just want to know and need 1269 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 5: some advice. 1270 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Do you really think this is jealousy? 1271 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 5: Why am I being treated like this? I'm not really 1272 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 5: sure exactly what to do. But today Bobby finally confronted her, 1273 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 5: which is my boyfriend, and asked her why she asked 1274 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 5: me if it was Christopher's car soap that I was using, 1275 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 5: which is the nephew. She told him that she was 1276 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 5: just asking just to ask because she was just curious. 1277 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 5: Bobby's like, I don't think you just asked if that's 1278 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 5: Christopher's soap. 1279 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 2: For no reason or to just start conversation. 1280 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 5: And she got so mad that we asked her or 1281 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 5: confronted her and slammed her door like a child. 1282 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 2: That's right, because they. 1283 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 5: Don't know how to act once they get put on 1284 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 5: the spot, and all they have to say is, well, 1285 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 5: I was looking for problems. No, I was just trying 1286 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 5: to start conversation by accusing and being aggressive asking her 1287 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 5: if that's really her soap? 1288 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, not even how is your day or how is 1289 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 8: your day. It's just is that my grandson soap that 1290 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 8: you stole from him. 1291 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 2: Here we go. 1292 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 5: About five minutes later, here she comes knocking on our 1293 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 5: door telling us that we needed to move out because 1294 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 5: it just wasn't working out here anymore, all because we 1295 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 5: asked her why. 1296 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 2: She was asking if it was nephew's soap I was using. 1297 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 5: And another thing is we borrowed eighty dollars from her 1298 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 5: the other day and she has been hounding and hounding 1299 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 5: us about paying it back to her, which we did. However, 1300 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 5: his nephew has gotten four dwi's in the last year, 1301 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 5: and OS's attorney somewhere around two thousand dollars, which she 1302 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 5: paid twenty five hundred dollars to get him out. 1303 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 2: Of jail as well. 1304 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 5: And she just keeps throwing money towards the nephew's attorney 1305 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 5: and trying to get him out of this trouble when 1306 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 5: we hardly ever borrow any money from her. We put 1307 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 5: all the groceries in the house, which everyone eats, and 1308 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 5: I have no problem with that until his nephew starts 1309 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 5: putting notes on his stuff that he's bought, telling us 1310 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 5: basically not to touch his stuff. We give her cash 1311 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 5: every now and then to help her out. But the 1312 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 5: nephew doesn't give her anything whatsoever, not even a penny. 1313 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 5: He doesn't know buy groceries in the house. He just 1314 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 5: sits around and is lazy and smokes all day. But 1315 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 5: he told her he thinks I'm the one taking substances, 1316 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 5: so now they think that I'm this big tweaker. He 1317 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 5: gets all up in her head about me and my boyfriend. 1318 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 5: He even told her that he thought we were going 1319 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,919 Speaker 5: to try and hurt him, which we have never been 1320 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 5: any type of threatening or anything towards him. It's we've 1321 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 5: got a little bit more story left, but it's you got. 1322 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 8: To move out to get out of here. I want. 1323 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, just find anywhere else to go and don't reach 1324 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 2: back out to her. Just be like, you kicked this 1325 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 2: out of your house. 1326 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, for just confronting you about your behavior 1327 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 8: and you don't want to deal with this, get out 1328 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,479 Speaker 8: of the house. You're dealing with two children. Really, it's 1329 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 8: just ugh, it's ooh, and it's gonna be so funny 1330 01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 8: when that by the time you leave, I guarantee you one. 1331 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 8: Since grandson is so lazy, he doesn't do anything, She's 1332 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 8: gonna start asking him, Okay, could you help her ound 1333 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 8: the house? But no, She's like, oh wow, that was 1334 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 8: Op and uh what would be not? Oh son? Sorry, 1335 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 8: mother in law if that was Op and my son 1336 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 8: helping out so much, they were doing everything. Yep, Oh wait, 1337 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 8: can you he lend me some money for you know, 1338 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 8: like rent and like helping you out? Now, Grandma, I 1339 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 8: just go getting out of here. 1340 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, who's to say, like exactly why or what? You know? 1341 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 5: I know there's a lot of questions in the post, 1342 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 5: but like what's going on? Is this jealousy? Who's to 1343 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 5: say what it is? But like it's not really important. 1344 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 5: What's important is that her behavior is like super toxic 1345 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 5: and negative and you should just remove. 1346 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 8: Guess what from it? You asked and you got technically 1347 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 8: your answer, so you know what. It's not the answer 1348 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 8: you wanted, nor is it a real answer, but you 1349 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 8: know what, no point in dealing with it, no point 1350 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 8: of searching for it. Don't have to go in a 1351 01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 8: safari for this answer. Just get out of there, live 1352 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 8: a comfortable, quiet life. 1353 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 2: The time to now leave has arrived. Yep. 1354 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 5: I literally just sit in my room, especially when my 1355 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 5: boyfriend's at work. I just stay in my room, keep 1356 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 5: to myself and don't know what the problem is. 1357 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 2: Could someone help me. 1358 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 5: Understand why this is happening or what her problem is? 1359 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 5: Is it even jealousy or is it intimidation? By the way, 1360 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 5: she's not married, she's had two divorces because she couldn't 1361 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 5: get along with either of her husbands. 1362 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 2: She has to have full control over everything. 1363 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 5: It seems like I don't know what to do and 1364 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 5: I don't know how to end this kind of thing 1365 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 5: unless we really do move out, which apparently she wants 1366 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 5: us to do. Any advice on why she's like this 1367 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 5: or what the cause of this would be. There's so 1368 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 5: much more. I could go on for hours, but it 1369 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 5: would take me forever to write. That's just the basic 1370 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 5: things that go on in my daily life, and I 1371 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 5: don't know how to handle it. 1372 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 2: Why is she like this? Is this jealousy or what? 1373 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 5: And that's the end of that story again, so not really, that's. 1374 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 2: Not really the question. The question is where are we going? 1375 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 8: When do we move out? 1376 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, make a plan, let's find our next spot and 1377 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 5: then just honestly leave this person in the past. 1378 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 2: No, you are not obligated to maintain a relationship with 1379 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 2: this person. 1380 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 8: It's not your it's not your mom, and I know 1381 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 8: it's your mother in law, but it's also not your 1382 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 8: place to be like why is she acting like this? 1383 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 8: You could ask your partner this and like why is 1384 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 8: she acting like this? And he could be like, I 1385 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 8: don't know, she sucks or you know, dude, like can 1386 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 8: we go ask her ex husbands why is she acting 1387 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 8: like this? And I guarantee they'll have the same answer. 1388 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 8: We don't know. 1389 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Who knows. 1390 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 5: She might not approve of you as a partner. She 1391 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 5: might just not approve of any partner. She might be 1392 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 5: jealous because she doesn't have a partner. She might just 1393 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 5: favor her other child. 1394 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 2: It's the family. 1395 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 8: It doesn't it does, but it does not matter. It's 1396 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 8: the open question of why did the chicken cross the road? 1397 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 8: Like people will say to get the other side, but 1398 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 8: like other people like say something else, why is she 1399 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 8: like this? At this point, who cares? 1400 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 2: It's just the way it is.