1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: many players say, well I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day Edith state 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: is that whoo whoom and Dan and tie Hi Dan, 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Hey Tye here, how about this? 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Nothing? 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: Nothing, that's what I am. No, I mean, that's the like. 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: That's the amount of uh interesting things I have to 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: say about this, because it's very simple. 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: At any point while you were watching Oregon lose fifty 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: six to twenty two to Indiana, at any point did 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: you wish that you had extended your pee wee basketball 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: practice to about five hours tonight so that you didn't 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: have to witness that massacre. 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: I think I would have rather watched this game three 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: times that extended that practice. Okay, we can get any 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: longer if we wanted to be Yeah, but yeah, we've 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: got a lot to unpack here. 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back. I'm Tye. He is Dan. 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: This is a solid verbel Please hit follow, police, hit subscribe, 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: help support the team. We saw one college football playoff 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: semi final on Thursday night, that one between Miami and 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: Ole Miss. That was a barn burner, the one that 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: we had tonight Friday, January the ninth was very much 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: not and it was very much not right from the 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: jump when Indiana scored on a pick six on literally 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: the first play of the game. The Angelo Ponds picks 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: one off runs back for a twenty five yard touchdown 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: to get Indiana off the schneid right away, seven to zip. 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: It did not get any better from there again. Your 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: final score fifty six to twenty two, a fully dominant 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: showing by the number one Indiana who who Hoosiers fernandomn Doza. 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: Five touchdown passes, for the most part, unstoppable. The Indiana 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: defense I was just looking ten tackles for lost three sacks. 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: Every part of. 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: This Indiana machine right now is operating at optimum efficiency, 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: which is a real scary sight, especially if you are 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: the Miami Hurricanes. Maybe we can talk about that a 40 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 3: little bit later on here in this recording, dam but. 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: I have to play it. I'm sorry, who just got. 42 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: This was obviously a very very dominant showing by the 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: Indiana Hoosiers. I'm not gonna sit here and dunk on Oregon. 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: I will maybe a little bit later. You am first starters, No, no, no, 45 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 3: first starters. We got to give credit where it's due. 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna kick it over to you because you are 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: the organ alum among us. What were your thoughts watching 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: this massacre? 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: Nothing? I mean it was at a certain point it 50 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: just went to nothing. At a certain point, I just 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: had glazed eyes staring at the TV, but really threw 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: the TV into the emptiness that can be the feelings 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: of life sometimes. What were my feelings? Look, you opened 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: a game throwing a pick six. It was a bad pass. 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: It was a great jump by D'Angelo Pond's. It was 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: a great play. And you spot an excellent team like 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: Indiana very clearly is seven points. That's not great. That's 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: not great. You spot them turnover after turnover and with 59 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: the fumbles, with the the just the general offensive issues. 60 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: After that first drive that Oregon did have, they jumped 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: back onto the scoreboard and made it seven all with 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: a nice drive. There's no excuse, there's nothing like for Oregon. 63 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: This is what was going through my mind. You asked me, 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: what's going through my mind? If will Stein were coming 65 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: back next year, and Tash to the poy, we're coming 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: back next year, this would have been an ass kicking. 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: If Jordan Davison were in there. If No Whittington and 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: Jayden Lamar were in there, this would have been an 69 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: ass kicking. If Dante Moore had declared that no, I'm 70 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: coming back next year, I'm so excited to play with 71 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: my guys, blah blah blah, and took erase to any 72 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: of a doubt there, this would have been an ass kicking. 73 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, if the portal were opening 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: in a month instead of opening last week, this would 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: have been an ass kicking. I think you're sensing a 76 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: theme here that Oregan was not prepared for this game. 77 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: Oregon made mistakes in a way that a far less 78 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: than Indiana team makes, and Oregon is far less. I mean, 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: the conversation at least at some points in the week 80 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: leading up to this game was it's tough to beat 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: a strong team twice. Sure, maybe that's true. Oregon did 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: not look strong in this game. They did not look 83 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: like a strong team, let alone a strong team against Indiana. 84 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: The flip side of that would be like, it's tough 85 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: to look this strong against It's tough to only lose 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: by ten against Indiana twice. I just that you could 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: just sense something from Indiana that they are ready for 88 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: every moment, right, every third and three is just like, yeah, 89 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: of course we're going to convert this into a first down. 90 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: Of course, a receiver is going to break three yards 91 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: past the sticks. Of course, even if that receiver is 92 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: covered that they're going to block it up. And Fernando 93 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Mendoz is just going to buy himself time and scramble 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: for a first down. And even when Oregon, you know, 95 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: as they're being slaughtered, is you know, converting some bigger 96 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: plays and driving down the field. Dar Hill had a 97 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: seventy yard run. There was just like the Indiana played 98 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: the next play like it was the most important play 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: of their lives. And they played every play like it 100 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: was the most important play of their lives. And I 101 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: just think that this Indiana offense and defense were perfectly 102 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: formed and curated for this talent. The talent is coached 103 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: super well, who was evaluated super well. There's no shortage 104 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: of pieces you can read about Kurt Signetti's evaluation process 105 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: and uh development process with production. 106 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: They said it a production podcast, but they got a 107 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: lot of production in this one. 108 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: At least Oregon can be an excellent team against a 109 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: lot of teams. Indiana has their number, has their letter, 110 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: has their punctuation, has every single piece of the Oregon Bible, 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: whatever it is you want to call it. Indiana was 112 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: way better in October, they were way better today, and 113 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: they will continue to be way better until proven otherwise. 114 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: And frankly, tie, I'm pretty sick of ending every season 115 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: like this. Shit, I'm pretty sick of it. It's a 116 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: good run. Oregon won the Big Ten last year. Oregon 117 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: had a nice season this year, but not being ready 118 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: for this moment. And look, there was a lot stacked 119 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: up against them, but once again, even if there weren't, 120 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: it would have been an ass kicking. Oregon was just 121 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: not ready to compete on this level. Now we can 122 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: have a separate conversation about where this Indiana team stacks 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: up in modern history, perhaps if they win the national 124 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: championship whatever, because there's a worthwhile conversation to be had there. 125 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: Dude, it's when they win the national championship. But they 126 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: play like this these last two games, right against two. 127 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, we could argue whether or not in 128 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: Alabama should have been in the playoff, but y, Alabama 129 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: is not a bad team by any stretch. They might 130 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: have been team number thirteen instead of team number twelve, 131 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: but they were very much in the hunt for a 132 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: good reason. They got smoked. Oregon unanimously a top five team. 133 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: They got smoked. To come out and be this dominant 134 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: against two really quality teams, that's just hard to do. 135 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: So no disrespect to Miami. It's a cool story. They 136 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: get this game at home. They are obviously playing with 137 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 3: much purpose to their own credit, but if we see 138 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: this version of Indiana again, Miami's not gonna be within 139 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: twenty one points for them. 140 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: They're just not right. 141 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Look, there's a reason you still got 142 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: to play the game. You still you know, weird stuff happens. 143 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: It's a strange sport. But the manner in which Miami 144 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: is winning, which is impressive all things, consider their growth 145 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 1: rio Chris Baul, very impressive. I say that with zero 146 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: snark or sarcasm. The manner in which Indiana is winning 147 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: when they're locked in is just on a different level 148 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: than everybody in this moment that they were able to 149 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: do their last three games were dominating at least one 150 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: side of the ball, if not both sides the ball. 151 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Against Ohio State Alabama and Oregon. These are deeply talented 152 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: teams motivated, perhaps to different extents. Obviously Ohio State dealing 153 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: with a lot of new players. I guess all three 154 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: of these teams dealing with somewhat, you know, a new 155 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: roster in a lot of places. But so is Indiana, right, Like, 156 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: there isn't an actual excuse that holds water beyond they're 157 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: a lot better than we are, and I don't know how, 158 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to belabor the point because it's 159 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: like kind of simple at this moment that Indiana is 160 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: just way better. Their players perform at a higher level, 161 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: their coaches perform at a higher level. It's tough to 162 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: find solace in anything, even though once again it was 163 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: a really successful year for Oregon. Oregon was better than 164 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three teams one hundred and thirty 165 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: four teams minimum. They might be the second best team 166 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: in this sport and the second best team in the 167 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: sport just lost by do the quick math for me, 168 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,239 Speaker 1: thirty four points. 169 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: That is correct. 170 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: They might be number two. We'll see what happens with Miami, 171 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: but maybe they're number They're probably number three, right, is 172 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Oregon gonna finish number three. 173 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: They might yeah, I mean, listen, I don't even know 174 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: if it's a black guy to lose to Indiana. I 175 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: think if you're an Oregon fan and I'm not, and 176 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: you could obviously speak much more to that point. Obviously 177 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: you're disappointed that you lost, but losing isn't the worst part. 178 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: The worst part is that you lost in this capacity 179 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: in a way that didn't even feel like it was close. 180 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: I mean, part of the early storyline, at least in 181 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: the first half, was three first half turnovers that led 182 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 3: to twenty one Indiana points. Later on in the game, 183 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: there was a block punt that ended up giving Indiana 184 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: twenty eight points off of Oregon mistakes in some way, 185 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: shape or form. If you subtract those twenty eight points, 186 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: Indiana still wins this game by six points. Okay, that's 187 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: how shar and a way better they were in this game. 188 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: Did it change momentum? Did it change the tenor of 189 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: the game. Did it alter Oregon's game plan? I think 190 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: it had to. I don't think there's any way around that. 191 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: But this was just a fully dominant showing no matter 192 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: how you slice it. Eleven of fourteen on third downs 193 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: for Indiana. Oregon, to their credit, was fine on third 194 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: downs as well, eight of thirteen, but eleven of fourteen, 195 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: I think is a pretty symbolic way of talking about 196 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: how Indiana just felt unstoppable when they had the football. 197 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: You know, whether you're looking at Fernanda Mendoza going seventeen 198 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: of twenty for the five touchdowns, whether you're looking at 199 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: them having no turnovers, not creating while creating Oregon mistakes 200 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: but not having any of their own, whether you're looking 201 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: at that third down number, everything about this felt very inevitable, 202 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: both in the moment and now after the fact. 203 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: You look at at the stat line. 204 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: I'll even go back to before they kicked the game off, 205 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: it was like ninety five percent Indiana fans there. If 206 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: you looked out in the crowd, it was pretty much 207 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: a sea of red. So everything about this moment felt 208 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: like it was coming up Indiana. And in the end, again, 209 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: fifty six to twenty two was your final score. 210 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, that's cool that it's ninety five 211 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: percent Indiana. It could have been ninety five percent Bengal 212 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: Tigers in the crowd. 213 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: They could have played that game on the moon. It 214 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't have mattered. 215 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: They could have played that game in assembly hall on 216 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: a basketball court in Bloomington, Indiana. I think that's what 217 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: it's called. I know it is an Illinois. They could 218 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: have played that game in Bloomington at a high school. 219 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: They could have played that game in front of standing 220 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: room only in the Tokyo Dome full of Indiana fans. 221 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: They could have played that game in Eugene, Oregon. Again. 222 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: They could have played that game at Switzerland. It doesn't matter. 223 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: As cool as it is though, the ninety five percent 224 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: of the crowd being Indiana fans, did nothing for this game. No, 225 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: it's just cool that so many people got to see 226 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Indiana perform in a spot like this that wanted it 227 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: to happen. But no, it had no bearing on the 228 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: outcome of this game. 229 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: So there, of course, is the layer of Indiana just 230 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: being unstoppable, a buzzsaw, a wagon, inevitable, whatever way you 231 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: choose to represent what we're seeing from the Indiana Hoosiers. 232 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: They're still the only undefeated team in the country and 233 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: they are going to the national championship. From their standpoint, 234 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: it would be the very first national championship that they 235 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: have won in football. Obviously, Miami has won many before, 236 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: but it's been about twenty five years. So we're going 237 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 3: to have two relatively new ish teams playing for a 238 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: national championship, which I think is cool. It makes for 239 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 3: a cool story when they meet on January the nineteenth, 240 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: which is a week from this coming Monday. The other 241 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: layer to this is again this continued arc of Indiana 242 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: football going from the perennial doormat to now this unstoppable 243 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: force in college football. And I saw our friend Ben Jones, 244 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: who obviously writes about Penn State. He had a great 245 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: tweet earlier tonight. Indiana's season is just an existentially exhausting 246 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: thing for a place like Penn State. And I would 247 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: add to many other places like Penn State. Dan spent 248 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: a decade treading water. Indiana cuts the line with half 249 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: the effort in toil, and now here they are right. 250 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: Whether you're Oregon, whether you're Penn State, whether you're any 251 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: number of the teams around college football who have been 252 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: nosed to the grindstone for years trying to build up 253 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: a program, trying to get to this point, trying to 254 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 3: get to this moment where you can perhaps get into 255 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: a national championship to have Indiana swoop in in just 256 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: two years with the combination of the right coaching staff 257 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: and the right players via the portal and maybe a 258 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: little bit of a luck here and a little bit 259 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: of luck here in there, even though there wasn't a 260 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: whole lot that they needed in this one, but for 261 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: them to now just sort of cut to the front 262 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: of the line and be in this moment, It's the 263 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: kind of thing that I think is going to have 264 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: a lot of athletic directors and a lot of coaches 265 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: around the sport looking in the mirror wondering how did 266 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: they do this? It still kind of feels like a 267 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: magic trick. I know we have Indiana fans who listen 268 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: to this or who have found this over the last 269 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: couple of months as Indiana has gone on this incredible run. 270 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: I think many of them would say the same thing. 271 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: They knew the team would be better this year. When 272 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: we did our preview. 273 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: We knew the team would be better this year. That 274 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: was never really a question. 275 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: It was a matter of, you know, to what degree 276 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: do we have confidence that even getting a little bit 277 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: better is going to catapult them to new heights. Nobody 278 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: could have guessed that they would be in this position 279 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: that they're in right now. But I would say, at 280 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: a minimum, if you are one of those programs around 281 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: college football that aspires to be here to look at 282 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: the plight of Indiana and curtgcign any a very short 283 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: period of time, it's a big old shrug. It still 284 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: feels like a magic trick. And I know the people 285 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: that listen to the show who root for Indiana, many 286 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: of them are written in. They feel the same. They 287 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: just like literally nobody saw this coming, maybe outside of 288 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti. 289 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean, look, I don't know what there 290 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: is to add. They do every little thing well. That's 291 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: a well coached team, and even when fumbles appear to 292 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: just have magnets for their own hands. Right, Fernando Mendoza 293 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: has two fumbles, one bounces to was it Coogan Pat Cougan, right, 294 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: and the other one he recovers early on in the game. 295 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: They're just automatic in every moment, right. The receivers don't 296 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: drop anything. They don't drop a single contested catch. Ever. 297 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: I think that they last time they lost to fumble 298 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: was like the eighteenth play of the season they noted 299 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: against was that Odu was their opening round matchup. Yeah, 300 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: it's incredible to behold on this level. It's been incredible 301 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: to behold. I guess good for Ohio State for keeping 302 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: it as close as they did, state an opportunity. 303 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: If I could bring something up here. That kind of 304 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: caught me off guard. But then I've been sitting with 305 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: it since they mentioned it on the broadcast, and the 306 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: more I think about it, the more it feels like 307 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: a very app comparison. If you watch this game at all, 308 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: they were drawing comparisons first and foremost between Fernando Mendoza 309 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: and the great Joe but Joe Burrow, youre excuse me 310 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen whenever it was at LSU, right, and 311 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: you can see the comparison. I understand why you would 312 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: draw that. But more broadly, they were talking about the 313 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: Indiana team and comparing it to the run that LSU 314 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: went sean in that year. I don't know if LSU 315 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: quite had the same defense that were sated from India didn't. 316 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: I know they. 317 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: Didn't, but certainly there was this feeling of everyone is 318 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: standing on the tracks and the trains coming through and 319 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: it's LSU. And when I first heard that comparison, I 320 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 3: must admit I was like, Ooh, I don't know about that, 321 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 3: because I tend to think of that twenty nineteen LSU 322 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: team as one of the greatest I have seen, certainly 323 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: in our time doing this show, in all my time 324 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: watching and rooting for college football. But the more I 325 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 3: see Indiana in spots like this, obviously there's a big 326 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 3: one left to go. It sort of fits Dan, It 327 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: sort of fits And I never thought I would say that, 328 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: because that was one of the greatest single seasons that 329 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: I think I will ever see, that we will ever see. 330 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: But the pure inevitability of this Indiana team, how they 331 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: do not make mistakes, They do not give you any mulligans. 332 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: For Nano Mendoza, it feels like a friggin robot back there. 333 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: There is nothing you could throw at him or this 334 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 3: line that is going to confuse these guys. No, they 335 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: are a machine in the same way as that LSU team, 336 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: And that is damn freaking scary if you're a Miami 337 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: Hurricane fan right. 338 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I mean, look to play Devil's advocate. Obviously 339 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: LSU had an easier road in the SEC to put 340 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: up those stats, right and like we're talking and we're 341 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: just talking about a conference that can't compete on a 342 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: high level. Settle settle, No, No, it's okay, No, Like I'm 343 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: just saying what we're all thinking. 344 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: Continue that clearly that LSU team had a bunch of 345 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: first round picks on it unbelievable. Yeah, it was an 346 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: unbelievable assembly of talent. Now I don't think this Indiana 347 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: team is going to have that many first round picks. 348 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter though, right It's not about the NFL 349 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: and the first round picks thing. 350 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: That's a component to it. 351 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: But the level of domination that I think we have 352 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: seen is where I am drawing that comparison. 353 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know. 354 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: People can weigh in if they if they think it's 355 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: a bad way to compare what Indiana is doing so 356 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: far this season. 357 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: It wasn't even my idea. They mentioned it on the broadcast. 358 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 3: But if this is in tended to be an instant 359 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: reaction show where we kind of give our knee jerk 360 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: thoughts here, I have been sitting with that since they 361 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: mentioned it, and I'm going to be thinking about it 362 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: for the next ten days. 363 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: Sure. 364 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: LSU's net points per drive in twenty nineteen was two 365 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: point four to three, so offensive points for drive minus 366 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: defensive points per drive allowed. This year's Indiana going into 367 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: this game is slightly ahead of them at two point 368 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: four to nine, and that's before tonight's game, which I 369 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: think will add to your discrepancy one with So yeah, look, 370 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: LSU was in a four team playoff era. This is 371 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: a twelve team playoff era. LSU needed to win two games. 372 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: Indiana is going to need to win by my count, 373 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: how many tie three games? Four games? 374 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: Three games, and I you have to win more games. 375 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: The other side of it, too, is just it was 376 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: a different era back then, right, you couldn't use the 377 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: transfer portal to the extent Indiana has used it now. 378 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 3: And they another thing that another thing that I think 379 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: they were they were wise to bring up on the 380 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: broadcast was one of the things that teams are dealing 381 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: with in light of all this portal movement is it's 382 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: really tough to build depth the way some of those 383 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: older teams could. 384 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: Totally. 385 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: Those LS teams stacked talent on top of talent on 386 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: top of town. They were three deep at every key position. 387 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: Indiana said they're playing thirteen guys on defense. You know, 388 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: it is not the deepest team. I think depth across 389 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: college football has taken a hit for obvious reasons. So 390 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: it's not exactly apples to apples, but there's definitely a 391 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: conversation to be had there. 392 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this though. 393 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, By the way, just to clarify, to fully 394 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: fact check the the twenty nineteen LSU thing, Joe Burrow 395 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: was a trans He was a trend to LSC, so 396 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: they did take advantage of the ability for a quarterback 397 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: to trans. Fair Enough, Ohio State felt like he was 398 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: not just you know, high enough level. That was an 399 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: urban Meyer thing. Continue. 400 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 3: I am gonna circle back to Oregon at some point 401 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: because you mentioned something that I want to unpack a 402 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 3: little bit more. But for the time being, I do 403 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: want to at least talk about this matchup that we 404 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: have coming up between Indiana and Miami. 405 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: Again. 406 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: This game is going to take place on January of 407 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: the nineteenth. They're going to play this game in hard 408 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: Rock Stadium, which is an interesting story unto itself, not 409 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 3: just because it's going to be in Miami's home stadium. 410 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: It's also Fernanda Mendoz's hometown grew up a very short 411 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: ways away from the University of Miami at time of recording. Again, 412 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: we're doing this in the immediate aftermath of this dominant 413 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: win by or by Indiana. 414 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 415 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: Indiana enters that game as about a seven and one 416 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: half point favorite. So just in thinking ahead, we have 417 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: not had the opportunity to go in and do the 418 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: deep dive and look at the numbers and the matchups 419 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: and the zone schemes and whatever else we look at 420 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: when we put our predictions together. By about ten days out, 421 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 3: thinking of that matchup seven and a half points in 422 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: favor of Indiana, how does that make you feel. 423 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: Good about Indiana? I mean, what kind of unless Unless 424 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to convince myself in the next week that 425 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: Oregon was the biggest paper Tiger that I just never 426 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: fully saw coming. And same goes for Alabama. I'm not 427 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: sure what Miami offers that is wholly convincing that would 428 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: have me believe that they are going to be able 429 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: to hang with this team. If if we're going to 430 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: buy Indiana as excellent and bulletproof and worthy of at 431 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: least a conversation about the greatest recent performances from a 432 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: team overall, I don't think we just have that conversation 433 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: about Miami, and it feels like I'm disrespecting the Canes. 434 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: And that's fine if you feel that way. But Miami 435 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: can merely be really really good and super impressive and 436 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: a strong team and a worthy team to be in 437 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: this spot. But also, I come back to what we've 438 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: talked about in previewing some of these games, and we 439 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: probably should have before this Indiana Oregon game. If there 440 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: is a blowout in this National Championship game, is there 441 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: a universe in which Miami's winning this game thirty eight 442 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: to ten. 443 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: No. 444 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: I don't believe that to be the case. No, And 445 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: so usually that's a good indicator going into a big game. 446 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: No big games can go either way, of course, But 447 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: if there is a blowout, is it seventy percent of 448 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: the time going to be this team? Ninety three percent 449 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: of the time going to be this Like, I just 450 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: don't see universe in which Miami makes work of Indiana, 451 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: And so I just don't think they're crisp enough, because 452 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: you have to be that crisp against this year's Indiana team. 453 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: You have to be playing such clean what did I say, 454 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: eat off the floor football? 455 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: No? 456 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: Oregon did not play eat off the floor football. No, 457 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: put me down for that analysis, right. They did not 458 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: play eat off the floor clean football against Indiana, and 459 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: so I just am not a believer in Miami, especially 460 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: given whatever their injuries look like on defense heading into 461 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: this game and down a starting corner for the first 462 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: half because of a targeting call. I just don't think 463 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: that Miami can get away with being Miami against Indiana. 464 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 3: The penalties, right, but yeah, the penalty the penalties, I 465 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: think is something that we'll need to discuss when we 466 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: do the official preview. But I'm curious to see what 467 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: kind of pressure Corey Heatherman dials up, Yeah, what they 468 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: try to do to neutralize for Nana Mendoza if you can. 469 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: I mean, no one's really been able to do it 470 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 3: all that well this year, But I think that's an 471 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: interesting angle to unpack. We've clearly talked enough about the 472 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: Miami pass rush for folks listening and watching to this, 473 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: you know where we stand. 474 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: It's obviously very good. 475 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: It didn't really come into play against Ole miss or 476 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 3: missed it a good job mitigating that, but you can 477 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: expect that they're going to try to bring the house 478 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 3: or at least do something to get Fernanda Mendoza out 479 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: of rhythm. 480 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: He didn't look out of rythm at. 481 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: All in this game, and when he did, he ran 482 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: for you know, twenty eight yards, had that big twenty 483 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: one yard er at one point earlier in the game. 484 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see that side of it. I'm 485 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 3: curious to see if Miami continues to lean on their 486 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: ground attack. I really like the Miami offensive line. I 487 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: still think they could get a little bit of push, 488 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: enough of a push up front against this Indiana defensive 489 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 3: front that they can make some hay on the ground. 490 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 3: But it's a matter of what can they do beyond that? 491 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: You know what, what is it going to look like 492 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: beyond that? Even in the game that we saw on 493 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: Thursday against Old Miss, there were a few of those 494 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: throws that, you you know, tight window throws for Carson Beck. 495 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: Let's say that, Yeah, it could have easily gone in 496 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: the other directions. So I'm but there were at least 497 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: for the other way. They're at least for the other way, 498 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 3: and that ultimately, I think is what sank or Miss. 499 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: But I'm just I'm curious to see what the second 500 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: pitch is for Miami. We know they've got Malachi Tony, 501 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: we know they've got playmakers out wide, and they're they're very, 502 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: very good along the trenches as well. But for me, 503 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: the two things I think I'm most curious about are 504 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: Miami's pass rush, how they bring pressure on Mendoza, and 505 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: then what their offense looks like if they are able 506 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: to get a push up front. And I'll just say, 507 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: speaking from experience, we have done this now since two 508 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: thousand and eight. Generally, when all your questions are on 509 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: one side of the matchup, that's not good for that team. 510 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: Does it mean they can't win? But I would say 511 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: more often than not, at least in the games that 512 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: I've picked, it tends to go the other direction. So 513 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: right now I would have a heavy lean on the 514 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: Indiana Hoosiers. 515 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel the same way. It's it's also still 516 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: amazing that Indiana's accomplishing this, not just the time thing, 517 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: but they're like bringing in next year's team right now. 518 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: They're recruiting next year's team, like we have to imagine 519 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: that well, like Josh Hoover is going to be next year, 520 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: is like murderous cyborg at quarterback, Like they did this 521 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: to like an eighty five percent level with Ohio's quarterback, 522 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: with Curtis Rourke, who was hurt, who was hurt, who 523 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: hurt his thumb and came into the season hurt. Now 524 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: they had a knee injury, and so I don't know. 525 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: I just. 526 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Is it gonna last forever? Probably not. But will they 527 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: be a sort of death machine to an impressive extent 528 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: for the time being? I think so, yeah, like until 529 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: proven otherwise. I don't know how you discount what has 530 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: happened so far. They're gonna they're gonna keep doing it 531 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: like this. They're going to keep attacking the portal. They'll 532 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: develop younger players as well to complement the whole thing. 533 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: But no, it's it's all incredible, and it's a unicorn. 534 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: It is. 535 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: It's one of those things too where you're just like, 536 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: how do you replicate Kurt Signetta? You don't. How do 537 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: you approximate Kurt Signetta? You don't. And I think it's 538 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: foolish to say, like, who is that next guy, Who 539 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: is that next small school coach, Who is that next 540 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: disciple of some sort of legendary coach that can bring 541 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: that line of thinking and that line of attention to 542 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: detail to our team. It's the wrong way of thinking 543 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: about it. Just hire the best guy you possibly can 544 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: and hope for the best, because thinking of like how 545 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: to make our own version of this, I think is 546 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: just so futile, and I think it's going to get 547 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: people fired. But I don't know. It's it's crazy to behold. 548 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: Your final score again is fifty six to twenty two. 549 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: The Indiana Hoosias stay unbeaten again, the only undefeated team 550 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: still in college football. They are going down to hard 551 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: Rock Stadium to scare off against the Miami Hurricanes. That 552 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: game is on January the nineteenth. We of course will 553 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: preview that over the next week or so. Oor next episode, 554 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: the one coming up on Sunday, is going to be 555 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: Transfer Portal episode to the Friend Max also, and I 556 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: got to go through and edit it because we recorded 557 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: it on Thursday and there's been some movement in the 558 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: Transfer Portal since then. 559 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: So we're gonna go. 560 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna give that nice little power cleaning to make 561 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: sure that the stuff that people are listening to isn't 562 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: going to be wildly out of date and it's still 563 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: relevant and interesting and worthwhile of your subscription or your 564 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 3: follow on your podcasting app of choice. Yes, I did 565 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: want to close this out though by giving you one 566 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: final bite at the Oregon Apple. 567 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: Okay, because to a postseason recap, well, you. 568 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: Said something that that is sticking with me, and that 569 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: is you're tired tired of seasons ending like this. Yeah, 570 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: and my suspicion is there are probably people tuning in 571 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: right now who want me to dunk on you or 572 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: want to hear the pain in your voice after your 573 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: beloved Orgon Ducts was was by thirty four in the National. 574 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: To be clear, I didn't call these plays. I didn't 575 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: with these players. 576 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, but my hunch is that even if you're 577 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: not tuning in for that, regardless of who you root for, 578 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: you have been in this situation where the season ends 579 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 3: on a really embarrassing or otherwise disappointing note, and so 580 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: your words of wisdom in this moment probably go a 581 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: lot further than you're willing to admit. 582 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I want as I speak to Oregon fans or 583 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: any fans of a team ending the season in a deflating, 584 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: disheartening way, I. 585 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: Want you to get it all out because when I 586 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: messaged you in the second quarter, you said you were thinking, 587 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: first off, you were drinking, and secondly you were thinking 588 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: of wandering into the deep dark abyss that is Lake Michigan. 589 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so with that as the precursor, m let's hear it. Well, 590 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: let's your rant. 591 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: So the rand is basically when you spend ten days 592 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: or so, however many days it's been since the Texas 593 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: Tech game thinking about this game, previewing this game, going 594 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: on other shows, talking about this game, thinking about different 595 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: ways this game could go, and in my case, hoping 596 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: for the best for Oregon, like, well, they have to 597 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: play clean. You know, Dante's going to have to get 598 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: more comfortable with the Indiana pass rush. And then like 599 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: the running back situation happens where they're losing guys and 600 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: you're like, well, you know they still have deer Hill. 601 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: Jay Harris can be pretty good. It's a good offensive 602 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: line in front of him. Will Stein has called a 603 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: really good offense these past three years for Oregon. You know, 604 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: these receivers are healthy, with Malik Benson and Jeremiah McClellan 605 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: sort of breaking through and the back third of the 606 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: season something like that. And you know Jamari Johnson at 607 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: tight end is a big second tight end option and 608 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: then the defense pitching a shutout against Texas Tech, a 609 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: team we all agreed was like a top four or 610 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: five team, And you say to yourself, like, they could 611 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: probably put together sixty really strong minutes and put themselves 612 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: in a position to at least compete to win this 613 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: game and stay in this game and maybe catch a 614 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: break or two a turnover something like that. And you 615 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: sort of talk yourself into the ability to compete in 616 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: an improved way against a team that you fell short against. 617 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: And when the game starts and it's an immediate pick six, and. 618 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: It was like in our discord, it was like, oh, no, 619 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: here we go, here we go. This is not gonna 620 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: end well. 621 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Where you're just like they immediately or Dante more was 622 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: immediate or what the receiver, the whatever, the moment was 623 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: immediately too big for Orgon. The mistakes happened, and Oregon 624 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: actually they marched down the field and you know, convert 625 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of third downs and you know, get in 626 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: the end zone. 627 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: They rebound. 628 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 3: Well, they went three for three on third downs on 629 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: that next drive they put it was like a fourteen 630 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: play drive or something like that. That yeah, eight about 631 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: seven seven and a half minutes off the clock went 632 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: seventy five yards. You didn't notice any hints of panic, right, 633 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: they showed the clip, but we'll sign on the sidelines 634 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: to seem completely unfazed. 635 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: Dante looked good. Yeah, they did answer the moment, at 636 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: least that one moment after. 637 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: The pick six. Yeah, it's it's tough because watching this 638 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: year's Oregon team against the best teams that they played 639 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: on this schedule, to whatever extent, right, Indiana was obviously 640 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: being the best that they played twice. They didn't put 641 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: together like, oh they just beat that team thirty five thirteen, 642 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: and that's a really good team. Like, they just didn't 643 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: put together complete games against good teams. And some of 644 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: it was whether some of it was whatever circumstance. But 645 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: that was the thing that I wish I had paid 646 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: more attention to. But in hindsight, it's just like Orgon's 647 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: number three four team in the country. It's pretty good. 648 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: They lost to a team this season. One team is 649 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: the only team they lost to is the team they 650 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: didn't end up losing to a losable Iowa game team. Whatever. 651 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: It was sloppy at times against teams like Washington and 652 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: USC whatever. 653 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: Could have lost to Penn State on the road at night. 654 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely almost gave that game away to Penn State. They 655 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: almost gave away that lead and pulled it out in 656 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: double overtime. But there is something in this moment, And 657 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: I thought about this last year against Ohio State where 658 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: I was just like, they need like a sixty two 659 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: year old, grizzled coach on defense who is just like 660 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: like they needed not maybe not Jim Knowles, but they 661 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: needed somebody like of Kurt Signetti's generation. Not Kurt Signetti. 662 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: There's only one of those to go around. But like 663 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: I think about like the coaches all being on the 664 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: younger side, and you know, the recruiting has been great, 665 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: the portaling has been great, and there's just like even 666 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: Dan Lanning himself, every year he's gotten better, right, rins 667 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: ten games his first year, including the Bowl win, and 668 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: then you know, goes to the What Fiesta Bowl and 669 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: then goes to the Rose Bowl and lose Toio State. 670 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: Like every year he's stacking, he wins the Big ten, 671 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: he makes it to the Final four, like every year 672 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: is a growth year for Dan Lanning's But at the 673 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: end of these last couple you're just like he's not 674 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: James Franklin. He's above that level. He's won big games, 675 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, beat Ohio State and Eugene or whatever. But like, 676 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to this moment, what is that last 677 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: thing that's completely lacking for this Oregon team? 678 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: He's the Kirby Smart of James Franklins. 679 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: He's the Kirby Smart of James Franklin. Sure where You're 680 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: just like, defenses can be really really good as a 681 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: ton of talented players portaled seemingly well with guys like 682 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: Dylan Thineman and Bear Alexander who performed and then on offense, 683 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: like you got Dante Morant be a top five pick 684 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: in the draft whenever it is that he goes. There's 685 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: talent everywhere, and he's just like, it makes me think 686 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: about the best players versus the right players, and when 687 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: you have the best right players, you get something special. 688 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: I think Oregon is finding a lot of really really good, 689 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: high level players that you can say are like the 690 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: best players at their position in like this draft class, 691 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: or in a recruiting class, or in a portal class. 692 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 1: But it's a team game, and at a certain point 693 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: you're just like, what are we trying to do? How 694 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: do we find the best possible players for what we're 695 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: trying to do? And are we doing as good a 696 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: job at finding them, developing them, and unleashing them into 697 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: the universe in these huge moments. Again, they're a top 698 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: four team, sure, so you're talking about an extremely slim margin. 699 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: But when you're top four team and you lose number 700 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: one by thirty four, the margin feels a lot wider. 701 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: And so that to me is just like I live 702 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: in advantage lifestyle rooting for this program, but you're just like, man, 703 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: can they cut it any closer in moments like these? 704 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. It's it's first world problems, 705 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: of course, or one percent of the one percent problems. 706 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you, with somebody who went to 707 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: the school, who cares deeply about this football team winning, 708 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: you know you hope to close the gap in a 709 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: moment like this, and again the pick six, Dante Moore's 710 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: hand hitting Dierre Hill on an RPO and you know, 711 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: causing that fumble like just like man it On one hand, 712 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: maybe it'll feel so much sweeter given that I'm going 713 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: through this. If it ever happens for Oregon, the nectar 714 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: will be so delectable. But I don't know, man, it's 715 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a fun sleep tonight. If that 716 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: makes sense. I don't know. Does any of that make sense? 717 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 3: It does, it does, and I think it only underscores 718 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 3: the point that I mentioned earlier from our friend Ben Jones. Yeah, 719 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: how Indiana getting the right guy who knows how to 720 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: get it go out and get the right players for 721 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 3: his scheme. It feels like you always say alignment. This 722 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 3: is alignment in all caps. You know, from top to bottom, 723 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: everybody has bought in. They play outstanding team football. They 724 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 3: do not beat themselves. It is not necessarily about getting 725 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 3: the top of the top in terms of name brand talent. 726 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 3: It's about getting the guys who produce and the guys 727 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 3: who go out there and can be part of a 728 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 3: larger thing. And that's not to say Oregon or anybody 729 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 3: else doesn't do that, but Indiana right now is doing 730 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 3: it way better. And so there is that side of 731 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 3: it that I think has left a lot of college 732 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 3: football puzzled, even Indiana fans puzzled as to how he 733 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 3: is doing this so quickly. The other thought that came 734 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 3: to mind just with again, I keep using the word inevitability. 735 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 3: But that's just how I feel watching the Indiana Hoosiers. 736 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 3: If you were to tell me ten years from now 737 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 3: that Connor Stallions is secretly working for Indiana and picking 738 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: off players for opponents, I think the thing is, I 739 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 3: think I would believe that. That's how prepared Indiana seems. 740 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're cheating, but they feel so prepared 741 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 3: and so ready for everything. In point what is it, 742 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: fourth and one, fourth and two, Maybe a dumb play call, 743 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: but the full back dive fake pitch toss out to 744 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: Jay Harris that Oregon tried earlier in the game. That 745 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: was one of the tackles full one of the ten 746 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 3: tackles from Lost Indiana had in this game. They talked 747 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: about how Oregon has shown that look many times over, 748 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 3: that full back dive they ran, that little pitch play. 749 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 2: Indiana was there. Indiana knew it was coming. 750 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: It looked like you watched the above you from the 751 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: spider cam and everybody just crashed the right side of 752 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 3: that line. They're so well prepared that it feels like 753 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,479 Speaker 3: they know what's coming. And that's a whole other side 754 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 3: of it. That's not even about getting the right guys, 755 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 3: that's about preparing in a way. 756 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not listening on the radio. That's actually 757 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: just watching the tape. I get it, Oregon, does I 758 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: get it. 759 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 3: I'm just saying they're so well prepared that that is 760 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 3: also an added layer to this, that despite the fact 761 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 3: that they're doing it with a lot of transfers and 762 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 3: a coaching staff that clearly deserves to be compensated for 763 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 3: the job they're doing, their ability and the player's ability 764 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: to stay this locked in and prepared for pretty much 765 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 3: all the games we've seen over the last six weeks 766 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 3: or so, that part of it is perhaps the hardest 767 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 3: part to replicate. 768 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, totally agree. Anyway, have fun with your offense, Kentucky. 769 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's going to be not predictable at all. 770 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: Salty Dan, we could do a saulty Dan efs good 771 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: right point. Listen, I'm sure it'll be good. I'm sure 772 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna win a ton of games at Kentucky and 773 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: the offense is going to be incredible. 774 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, why don't we leave it at that, folks. 775 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 3: Dan, I'm sorry, it's a tough way to go down, 776 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: but we've got a big one left. I know we're 777 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: both excited to watch Indiana square off against Miami, your 778 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 3: final here on Friday evening in the Chick fil A 779 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: Peach Bowl, fifty six to twenty two. Indiana wins in 780 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 3: resounding fashion, again the only undefeated team still standing in 781 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,439 Speaker 3: college football. We will have ten days to break down 782 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 3: all that is to come in the final game of 783 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 3: the college football season. As I mentioned, we've got a 784 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: portal show. We've got a couple episodes between now and then. 785 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 3: Hit follow, hit subscribe. If you made it this far, 786 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 3: we'd love to have you along with. 787 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 2: Us for the way. 788 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 3: Yes that go over there, Dan, myself tied. Dan, enjoy 789 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 3: your evening, get some sleep, all right. I will try 790 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 3: my best, do your best to say solid 791 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: Thank