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Speaker 1: Welcome to boss the territory. Ladies and gentlemen. We have

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Speaker 1: an emergency stream here. The Red Sox made a big

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Speaker 1: Paul Skens. We got something else on the table. Something.

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Speaker 1: When I first saw the trade, I'm thinking to myself,

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Speaker 1: it is pretty even. We'll go we'll go break that

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Speaker 1: But it's just it's just interesting. It makes me think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: talk about Johann Oviedo, a guy that I was pretty

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Speaker 1: And I get back to the password here, I thought

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Speaker 1: John Bitzer of Baseballtrade Values dot com. So as you

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Speaker 1: indeed the way to say it. That's a guy where

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Speaker 1: some point. It's it's not the sexy name that we're

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Speaker 1: looking for. Right when I first saw the trade, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, I saw pirates, I saw

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Speaker 1: Red Sox. I I because it was It came up

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Speaker 1: as a notification on my phone and I'm like, did

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Speaker 1: we just acquire mix Keller? That was my first reaction

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Speaker 1: to that. There's no way you're getting Paul Skeins. But

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest that that man did pop up in

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Speaker 1: my brain a little bit. Uh. I knew we weren't

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Speaker 1: getting obviously, no one's getting Paul Skins, but it's not

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Speaker 1: the sexy trade that we're all waiting for, right We're

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Speaker 1: all still hanging on to possibly acquiring Ryan one of

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Speaker 1: these pictures out there on the trade market that could

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Speaker 1: be available. But this Craig has shown the ability to

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Speaker 1: where he can find value and he can find talent

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Speaker 1: that is not exactly guys that you're thinking of as

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Speaker 1: of right now. Guys that are the names that are

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Speaker 1: gonna draw that traction on Twitter. We'll see, We'll see

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Speaker 1: how this goes. There's upside here, there is potential there.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it sets up for more. The

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Speaker 1: Mexican Superman won two dollars. Didn't we have too many

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Speaker 1: pictures last year? I mean yeah, we already had too

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Speaker 1: many pictures after Sonny Gray. I mean you were borderline

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Speaker 1: like okay, like that, that's that's enough pitching, which is

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Speaker 1: crazy to say, because we didn't have like any picching.

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Speaker 1: Go back, you know, four or five years ago, right,

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Speaker 1: three years ago, two years ago, I felt like we

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Speaker 1: had no one. So see c h man, low risk,

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Speaker 1: high reward. I mean, that is the way to say it.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think this is really the move that

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Speaker 1: is going to be one of the big moves for

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox this offseason. I think it's helping set

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Speaker 1: up for more. That's where I'm at, Nick. It's actually

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Speaker 1: a decent trade for what the Red Sox traded Oviedo

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Speaker 1: as upside. Yeah, you gotta look at it that way.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of people out there. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be like, what the heck is this? What are

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Speaker 1: we doing? Come on, like, where's Joe Ryan, Where's Freddy Peralta.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a lot of that out there. But

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Speaker 1: there is something there. There is potential, I know. But

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Speaker 1: I also understand your frustration as well. If you are

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Speaker 1: frustrated with this trade. You want something, you want proven

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Speaker 1: commodity right now that we want to win right now.

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Speaker 1: You don't want a project, you don't want potential, you

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Speaker 1: want now. I understand that. I do understand that. But

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Speaker 1: there is definitely room for more and there are going

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Speaker 1: to be many more opportunities. It's not even the winter

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Speaker 1: meetings yet, We're still a few days away. That's another thing.

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Speaker 1: I forgot to point that out. I also find the

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Speaker 1: timing of this interesting. You got the Winter meetings here

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Speaker 1: in what three days? The fact that you now have

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Speaker 1: a stockpile of talent going into the Winter meetings in Orlando, Florida,

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Speaker 1: which I will be attending. By the way, we might

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Speaker 1: be doing live shows from the Winter meetings, stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: But you have a stockpile of talent, of AMMO trade

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Speaker 1: assets ready to go going into the Winter meetings. I

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Speaker 1: think the timing of that is very interesting. Uh, Katillo,

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Speaker 1: what do we got? What is Katillo saying? What is

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Speaker 1: he telling us? Has he got something good? Has he

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Speaker 1: got something juicy? We are going to be wrapping things

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Speaker 1: up here in a minute. What do we got here? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I didn't see this one. They're designating I forgot about

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Speaker 1: Cooper Criswell. They're designating him for assignment. I did not

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Speaker 1: see that one. Cooper Criswell, I wish you luck, my friend.

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Speaker 1: But he says this, Cubs director of pitching Ryan o'taro

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Speaker 1: is leaving the organization to join the Red Sox as

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Speaker 1: a special assistant. All right for an office news. All right,

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Speaker 1: we got something there. But everybody, I'm gonna wrap it

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Speaker 1: up right there. That's my reaction to this trade. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to let this run too long because I

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Speaker 1: want the replay viewers to not have to look at

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Speaker 1: the time of the stream and be like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: not watching all that. So I want to keep it

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Speaker 1: pretty short and tidy as much as possible. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: wrap it up right there, but we'll be back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: night for a I'm gonna do a bit of a

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Speaker 1: Winter Meetings preview, so be on the lookout for that.

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Speaker 1: We'll be live tomorrow night, but everybody, I'm gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: it up right there. If you kind of the way

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Speaker 1: out for me, all I ask at the like button,

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