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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Being

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Speaker 1: on the set of White Chicks. You get an opportunity

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Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, to work around Keenan Keenan Ivory Williams,

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Speaker 1: and you saw what he did with his Living color.

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Speaker 1: Did you really get an opportunity to see his community,

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Speaker 1: his comedic genius Because you look at and living color,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we're ever going to see anything.

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Speaker 2: Like that again. Never, never, And it gave birth to

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Speaker 2: so many.

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Speaker 1: Great the Jamie Fox, the David Allen Greres, the Tommy Davidson,

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Speaker 1: the Jim Carrey, the Wayiams brothers. I mean, there's so

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Speaker 1: many people that launched their careers that became what they became.

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Speaker 1: J Lo became what she became from that. Did you

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Speaker 1: get a sense like, man, this dude is a genius.

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Speaker 3: Yes, But this is the thing you gotta understand the

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Speaker 3: same thing about the NFL. When I walked into the

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Speaker 3: locker room in the NFL, they don't want you going ooh,

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Speaker 3: you show and so you gotta hit him, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? And the lead you realize, wait a minute, man,

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Speaker 3: if I don't hit you, listen, you on the offensive

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Speaker 3: side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: If I was the opposite of you.

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Speaker 3: You don't want me going, oh man, you sharing a shop,

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Speaker 3: you run me over. You want a challenge, you want foul.

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Speaker 3: I'm coming at you. And that's exactly what these actors want.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what these comedians want. They don't want you

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Speaker 3: to come in there ooh look man, side Stone is

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Speaker 3: looking like I want you to bring that heat when

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Speaker 3: you come. We look at me like I did Denzel

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Speaker 3: and that and training day.

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Speaker 2: They don't want me to be like, oh wow, you Didn'tzel.

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Speaker 3: They want me looking at him like I kill him

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Speaker 3: if he step out of line, because that's where everything is.

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants it. Nobody wants you to lib you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. They want you to throw it for real.

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what the way Keenan and the whole

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Speaker 3: they were playing for keeps.

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Speaker 2: And this is another thing.

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Speaker 3: It's one reason why you can't do white chicks too,

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Speaker 3: because comedies they oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. We're a different time. You're definitely

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Speaker 1: a different time now. But how have you been able

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Speaker 1: to steal sing? You've been in Malibu's Most Warning, You've

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Speaker 1: been in deliver Us from Eva, You've been in soul playing.

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Speaker 1: How because it's not like you're it's written that you're

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Speaker 1: the star of the movie. But you always find a

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Speaker 1: way to steal a scene. And man, man, you remember

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Speaker 1: when T Cruz was saying, Man, you remember when he's

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Speaker 1: out on the floor and he drunk that drink and

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Speaker 1: he out there dancing. You're always able to steal a

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Speaker 1: scene even though the movie isn't written around you.

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Speaker 3: Passion I I am. I serve the actors, I served

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Speaker 3: the script. I serve the audience. And it's never about me.

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Speaker 3: And anytime you see a movie and you bored, it's

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Speaker 3: about that dude on the screen. Yeah I've washed up,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, oh man, this dude it cat's mailing

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Speaker 3: in as How good am I going to? Look now

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Speaker 3: I'm turning to the left and I'm turning to the right.

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Speaker 2: They're like, oh man, whatever. But when I'm serving, Because

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Speaker 2: this is the key.

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Speaker 3: This is what I had to tell my son, even

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Speaker 3: about money, I said, you want to make money, The

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Speaker 3: key to making money is serving the most amount of people.

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Speaker 3: The more people you serve, the more money you make.

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Speaker 3: Straight Up, I said, look, you want I people always

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Speaker 3: like athletes make so much money doctor should make more

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Speaker 3: money than athletes. But I'm like, wait, how many patients

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Speaker 3: you got? How many patients you got? The doctor got

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Speaker 3: thirty patients, Well you got thirty patient money.

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Speaker 2: But how many people are enjoying watching Lebron play? True?

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Speaker 3: Hundreds of millions? So he gets hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: I said, dude, that ain't. Don't ever get it twisted.

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Speaker 3: You serve more people, you get more props, you get

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Speaker 3: more money. And I decided I was going to serve

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Speaker 3: more people. And everything I did. I remember doing Malibu's

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Speaker 3: Most Wanted and I remember being on the set and

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Speaker 3: I said, I'm gonna play this character.

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Speaker 2: His name is eight Ball, but I'm gonna play him

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Speaker 2: like he's real.

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Speaker 3: And I started doing stuff and the director was like, hey,

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Speaker 3: gotta let everybody know this. It can get you in

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Speaker 3: trouble because people go, he showing out, Uh huh, why

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Speaker 3: times I heard that. People always was like, oh, mister,

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Speaker 3: mister uh huh, and see, and that's what you gotta resist.

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Speaker 3: That's what you gotta resist. I found a long time ago,

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Speaker 3: like whatever God says about you, and if you repeat it,

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Speaker 3: it sounds very narcissistic. But whatever Satan says about you

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Speaker 3: and you repeat it, it sounds very realistic. And you

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Speaker 3: have to decide whoa am I gonna be real or

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Speaker 3: am I going to do a concept like do everything

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Speaker 3: I can? And it's a tricky thing because you get

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Speaker 2: You get oh, yeah, you showing out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I realized, No, the best thing I can

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Speaker 3: of Terry Crittles.

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Speaker 2: Best thing I can do for everybody's work out two

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Speaker 2: hours a day. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Because all I do is work on me. Best thing

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Speaker 3: I can do for everybody on that set, study my lines,

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Speaker 3: know what I'm doing, be prepared, being ready, always, always focused,

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Speaker 3: the best thing. And all of a sudden, nobody got

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Speaker 3: to worry about you. Nobody worry about you.

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Speaker 2: This thing is it.

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Speaker 3: And back in the NFL, I had to worry about

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Speaker 3: me a little bit. Now that's the lesson I learned.

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Speaker 3: I said, Nope, you ain't never got to worry about me.

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Speaker 3: I'm coming, I'm watching, I'm seeing, and I'm focused and

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Speaker 3: it's fun. And then all of a sudden, you can

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Speaker 3: have fun, you know what I'm saying. But boy, just

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Speaker 3: thing too. I had to move on because I had

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Speaker 3: I said, hey, this is Terry Crews. I'm taking it

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Speaker 3: to the next level and I'm not going back. Leave

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Speaker 2: And all the people who was like, where are you going,

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Speaker 2: Where are you going? Oh? Okay, okay, oh oh.

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Speaker 3: Not diminicats didn't get my new number because I realized,

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Speaker 3: I said, man, I need a new circle. And the

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Speaker 3: the ones that are happy. I'm getting moved up there,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And anybody that got crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because me and my father had a lot

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Speaker 3: of issues. Man, I mean again, he used to beat

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Speaker 3: And then he called me up before I get on

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Speaker 3: AGT and cuss me out.

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Speaker 2: You ain't nothing, ain't nothing. And I remember just going

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Speaker 2: it was he drinking, yeah, yeah, and so he got

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Speaker 3: That's it, that's it. I mean, is that why you

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Speaker 3: don't drink? That's why I don't drink. That's why I

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Speaker 3: don't drink. Want my father get drunk and he beat

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Speaker 3: not my mona.

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Speaker 1: So he called he calls you up before you go

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Speaker 1: what's he saying?

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Speaker 2: He's customed me out? Okay, It's like, you ain't ship.

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Speaker 2: Where did this? What did this come from? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's one of them things. Whether you think you big

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Speaker 3: got to a time where I actually had to change

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Speaker 3: communicate with him was through someone else.

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Speaker 2: Just is he all right? Okay, cool? Cool? But you said,

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Speaker 2: but that's stuff deep man.

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Speaker 3: And it was easier to get rid of friends that way,

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Speaker 3: where you go, yeah, yeah, I can move on or

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Speaker 3: smoke called friends.

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Speaker 2: You realize that that's not a friend anymore. But it's

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Speaker 2: a whole other thing.

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Speaker 3: When it's like god, right, and my mom passed away

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Speaker 3: it's one of those things where I realized what it is.

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Speaker 3: It's okay. He's jealous, he's angry, but that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Have you and he always had this contentious relationship?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, your earliest memories earliest I remember listen, we

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Speaker 3: He's like, oh, man, wasting my time. I gotta go

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Speaker 3: this because he didn't like sports. And he said, you know,

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Speaker 3: I said, now I'm gonna make it an NFL. He said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Only one in a million. I said, I'm one in

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Speaker 3: probably was twelve. I'm one in a million. You gotta say,

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget this. These are moments make me who

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Speaker 3: I am one in a million.

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Speaker 1: As you've gotten older, have you ever tried to sit

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Speaker 2: You're fifty five. I mean, I understand you.

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Speaker 1: Have a very contentious relationship, but you only get one

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Speaker 1: ye And I know sometimes you probably think you don't

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Speaker 2: But you know, t there might be one day that

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Speaker 3: I know, and you know that might be. I'll be

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Speaker 3: honest with you, man, that might be the reason we

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Speaker 3: sitting here today just talking about this is making me

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Speaker 3: realize it's got to be.

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Speaker 2: We gotta find a way, got to this work. We

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Speaker 2: gotta find a way. I mean.

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Speaker 3: And it's wild because I tried, I try, I call,

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Speaker 3: and then you know, you find out he's drinking because

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Speaker 3: he'll lie.

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Speaker 2: You know, I ain't drinking, you know, And then.

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Speaker 3: But you know all that he is drinking all the tide,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, everything, because he's a whole

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Speaker 3: different person when he's not.

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Speaker 2: You know. So you have brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have older brother a younger sister, and there's

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Speaker 3: the guy that I was going in between. What's their

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Speaker 3: relationship like with your father or is it just you know,

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's everybody. I mean yeah, because he again

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Speaker 3: but like you said, everybody was drinking. Everybody was there

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Speaker 3: when he was beating my mother, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So it makes it very very difficult. And when she passed,

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Speaker 3: that was a really really hard time, like because that's

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Speaker 3: the thing, man, It's almost like why didn't like it

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Speaker 3: should have been you, like you beating her and she

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Speaker 3: just internalizing all that. She got sick and it was

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Speaker 3: one of those things. I think if he was willing,

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Speaker 2: Well, finally realizing, wow, you know it was you, because

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, there were things I never told her,

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, Terry Crews And now you know,

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Speaker 2: And they were.

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Speaker 3: And it said, tell her, tell her, because if you

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Speaker 2: It had been a whole different ball.

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Speaker 3: Game, different ball game, a whole different ball game. Oh easy, Well,

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Speaker 2: It working the court?

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Speaker 3: First of all, you turn yourself in, if you admit guilt,

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Speaker 2: But if they catch you, right, if you're talking about

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Speaker 3: Hard damn like man, that gavel come down hard. And

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Speaker 3: I said, this is what happened.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure there are tears starting to float, and

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Speaker 3: Hey, man, there ain't no kind of pain. Then hurting

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Speaker 3: other level of pain. I mean, can you can be

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Speaker 2: But but this is this is the thing too.

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Speaker 3: and I said, I just have to acknowledge, and I

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Speaker 2: So you did what you did. It actually wasn't for her,

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Speaker 2: You was dying slowly inside. Yep, yeap, oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean living a lie. You know, hey, man, you know

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to live in a lie anymore. And dude,

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Speaker 3: this is the thing, man, being what I like to

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Speaker 2: Let me say.

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Speaker 3: I used to be like, why don't you believe me?

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Speaker 2: Why aren't you telling the truth? Shed it? Dude, listen,

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Speaker 2: te when someone would you for that long? They know you? Bro, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're basically a teenager. She doesn't be. She don't be

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Speaker 3: But see, this is the thing she all that time

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Speaker 3: because she always was suspicious. She was suspicious, and she

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Speaker 3: She was always giving me the benefit, always sticking her

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Speaker 3: mean the next fourteen I've been beyond belief. Like said,

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Speaker 2: It's like this is what it is. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Man, It's like, uh, I just want one thing. I

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Speaker 3: I want people to know that I'm young man. This

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Speaker 3: and this, You're infallible. No, no, dope, people like, man,

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Speaker 3: you said some stuff that got fitted me. I know, man,

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Speaker 3: you man, you hurt my feelings when you've been in it.

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Speaker 2: I totally understand. That's me.

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Speaker 3: I did that, you know what I mean a lot

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Speaker 3: and I totally upped up when I should. I spoke

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Speaker 3: I have to acknowledge that. But a lot of times

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Speaker 2: But I feel human because this is another thing.

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Speaker 3: As a football player, you lose humanity, you become a god,

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Speaker 3: and it always comes back to bite you. As an

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Speaker 3: big time right, and that's why I want to always

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Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy wrote you in Norbit and you talk about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no bigger one than Eddie Murphy and he

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Speaker 2: I run out.

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Speaker 3: I got invited over Eddie's house and I said, man,

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Speaker 3: but I said, but you ain't Eddie that invited me.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't Eddie? I said, Man, I don't know. No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: In school, man, Eddie said, I can bring some people

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Speaker 3: not want to show up at Eddie's house. I'm not

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Speaker 3: So we go over this house man, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, this place is the most palatial thing

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Speaker 3: at the moment where you're like, good God, this is

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Speaker 2: And all things. And I'm like, but where's Hedy.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm just thinking Lord, and Eddie's at the

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Speaker 3: top of the stairs and I went, oh, he's looking

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Speaker 3: And then he comes right down the stairs looks me

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Speaker 2: He's looking at me.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, damn it. I knew I wasn't supposed

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Speaker 3: about to get kicked out of this man's house. He said, tea,

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Speaker 2: I woke follow him and we go to the hallway.

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Speaker 3: He said, hey, man, my brother's writing this movie. My

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Speaker 3: Shannon certainly up there's there's billions of billions of people

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Speaker 3: They knew I wasn't gonna mail it in, they knew

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: The fact that I work with Eddie and Charlie, Charlie

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Speaker 2: Ye good friend. He blows my mind. You also were

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Speaker 2: in soul Playing with Mark would not do with Kevin

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Speaker 2: Kevin Hart. That was one of the first things.

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Speaker 1: And this is kind of before Kevin Hart became the

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Speaker 2: Playing was the most bootleg movie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was at the gas station and it was

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, this movie coming out in six month.

434
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: They're like, hey, man, you did a good job and

435
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: sould Playing.

436
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, huh huh. I saw it last night. He said,

437
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: how you man? I got at the house, man, what

438
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: you talking about? I was like, I pumped my gas.

439
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: Dude.

440
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: I went to Roscoe, just sitting out there in front

441
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: of Rods. I said, how y'all get man, just going

442
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: and going out and get your waffles. Bro, don't bother me.

443
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: Man.

444
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to be like, Mannie, y'all can't be selling

445
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: you movie. Go get your waffle, bron, don't be messing

446
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: with me.

447
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, all right, setting my movie outside. Dude,

448
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: the streets love soul play. They didn't pay a dime

449
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 3: to see.

450
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

451
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 3: It was awesome, hey man. But the streets had it

452
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: six months before it came out. You know that copy

453
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: came straight from Technicolor, somebody in Technicolor. It's like the

454
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 3: McDonald's scam, you know McDonald's monopoly that somebody on the

455
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: inside was giving it out and somebody on the inside

456
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 3: sent that straight to the street because they can get.

457
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: Money on it.

458
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: Everybody made money but Kevin and the producers of that movie.

459
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: But see now, but think about it. Look at what

460
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 3: Kevin is.

461
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you do voice acting?

462
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Speaker 1: I mean Boondogs, American Dad, spider Man, Cloudy with a

463
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: Chance of Meatballs, do you I mean because a lot

464
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: of people like say they like doing voice over rolls.

465
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Speaker 2: Do you like that? Love it? Love it? Everything? In fact?

466
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: Oh man, I don't know. I can't even say it yet.

467
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh you got something I know, I'll tell you, I'll

468
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 2: tell you. But I love it. I love doing all

469
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: this stuff.

470
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Speaker 3: Man.

471
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: I mean remember, it's all entertainment.

472
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: You gotta now. Now I understand this. I got to

473
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Speaker 3: go back to another thing. When I started, people like

474
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: Stars weren't doing commercials right, and they came. I remember

475
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 3: getting this opportunity because one guy fell out. They had

476
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: hired some guy to do it, and they said, well,

477
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: we had this Terry Crews type guy. Why don't we

478
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: just asked Terry Crews if you would do it. They

479
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: presented me with the first Old Spice commercial and I said, hell.

480
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah. And I went in there, man, and

481
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: they was like, it is wearing those fip bgging everybody, everybody,

482
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: and look, first of.

483
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Speaker 3: All, you gotta understand it was kind of like on

484
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: the outs like Old Spice was. They were thinking about

485
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: changing in the whole thing, and all of a sudden

486
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: it became I. I said, you can entertain two minutes

487
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: one second voiceover, you can entertain. I said, my rule,

488
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: I have no rules, And dude, I did that whole

489
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: campaign for ten years. Wow, it changed the game, Like

490
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you have major stars now doing

491
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 3: commercial right and the whole thing.

492
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: But I the old Spice changed the game. They played

493
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: on it all over the NFL.

494
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: That was That was another thing that was kind of

495
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: like my revenge on the league because you couldn't watch

496
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: a game, but I'll see something crazy Terry Crews all

497
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: Spice commercial, you know what I mean.

498
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have any horror stores, but

499
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: R but Terrence Howard said that he was only played

500
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: like twelve thousand dollars for doing hustling Flow. You have

501
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: any horror stories in which you felt that you didn't

502
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: get the proper compensation that you deserve.

503
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Speaker 3: First of all, And I understand what Terrence is saying,

504
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 3: but I have never ever ever looked at whatever money

505
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 3: I got as a horror story.

506
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: If I did it, I loved it. See. But this

507
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: is a problem I have. That's a saying I have

508
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: to say. You can't nod yes and mean no.

509
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: If I nod yes, I looked at the terms, they said, Okay,

510
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna pay me four grand for two days okay.

511
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: If I said okay, I can't come back later and

512
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: be like, ah, I only got four grad for that.

513
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: Hey man, that's what you present it. So there it

514
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: is a no to me. I'm not going back on that.

515
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: This keeps my heart always full of gratitude, because once

516
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: I start to complain about any of that, it starts

517
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: to mess with my legacy.

518
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: I didn't get nothing for training day. How about that?

519
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: I didn't get a zero, but it changed my life forever.

520
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: You didn't know who I was if it wasn't for

521
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: no paying job. First of all, it names somebody played

522
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: football for money. When they start, you don't get no money.

523
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: You play football for free, you play basketball for free.

524
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: Then you get all the way to the pros and

525
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: you get the millions. Ain't no other way, bro, There's

526
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: nothing else. Wait, there's no way to hop, skip and

527
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: jump this thing. You see what I'm saying. But that's

528
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: the thing. People are trying to invent ways to get

529
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: right to the money. But hey man, first of all,

530
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: nobody knew who I was, and I got my shot.

531
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: I got paid maybe four grand on Friday after next

532
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: But that's why I came up to the cub and

533
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: said thank you, thank you.

534
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: That was a start. That was the start. Now I

535
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: make money.

536
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: You've been a part of three shows that did at

537
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: least one hundred episodes Brooklyn ninety nine.

538
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: Are we there yet? Everybody hates Chris. That's an extremely

539
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: rare feat for a single actor to have three different

540
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: shows to reach that very rare. But again, I love, love,

541
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: love working. I love what I'm doing it.

542
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: Just did a movie with Dave Batista coming out next

543
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: year off The Killer's Game, so honored.

544
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: Man, Like, who gets this, dude, I'm living. You talked

545
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: to an old football player. You know that. When I

546
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: look at the players I played with, and they just like, man,

547
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: you killing it. Man, you like to take it.

548
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: But again, when I look at the fact that I

549
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: don't tomorrow's not promised, I don't know if I be

550
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: here tomorrow. So I'm going and I'm going take it.

551
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: But every one of those roles makes me better. I

552
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: learned on the fly. I didn't go to school, right,

553
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: so I learned by doing one hundred episodes of the show.

554
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: You know, you know it's funny. I'm on the road.

555
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: I learned by acting. So Toshina arnold she'd be sitting

556
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 3: there and I was like, man, these lines, it's hard

557
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: to learn. He's like, man, I'm trying to learn his lines.

558
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: She said, Terry, Terry sing him. I said, what are

559
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: you talking about? She said, sing your lines. If you

560
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: sing it, you and all you sing you remember my songs, right,

561
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: she said, when you saw when you talk it, sing

562
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: it and you remember it. See that's a seasoned actress

563
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: telling me the keys to the game, and I'm ready

564
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: to receive it. Dude, I said, holy, it changed my life.

565
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: And to Shina is one of the most brilliant supersman

566
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: actor since she was a kid, and she got all

567
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: this knowledge. But I'm open to it because I'm like,

568
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: how do I do this? And I have no problem

569
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: asking for help, no problem.

570
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: You turned down the expendable four rows because of an

571
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: assault and because you refused to withdraw. Yeah, the petition

572
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: of the civil suit. Was that difficult for you or

573
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: were you standing on as they say, not business but principle.

574
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: It was.

575
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: It was totally the It was extremely difficult because I

576
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: love those guys. Man, we did this together. You know,

577
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: Randy gotour Dolph Lungren'. So if that's just a loan,

578
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: I call him my dad in a business. He was like, man,

579
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: you I'm gonna put you in this thing. And then

580
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: when the fourth one came, I mean, the producer told

581
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: me you ain't gonna be in it if you don't

582
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: drop this case.

583
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: I said, come on, man, I said, what kind of

584
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: game are you playing? Now?

585
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: I remember I already been manipulated by the NFL. I

586
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: never forget when I had to go home on that Monday.

587
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: I had to bring back my playbook, right so you

588
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: can get me rid of me anytime you want, you.

589
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. But this was my terms. This

590
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: is my barrier. Ain't going back, you know what I mean.

591
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: This is me like no, no, I'm not gonna nod

592
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: my head yes and mean no.

593
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: I mean no this time. And I love those guys, man,

594
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: Jason Statum, all of them, and I hope we can

595
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: do something together in the future. And it ain't their fault,

596
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But there was just things

597
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: I have to say. That's remember now, Like I said,

598
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: I if I'm doing it, you got to know I've

599
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: already counted all the costs, all the costs, and I've

600
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: done many many things for free.

601
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: But that meant more to me than the things I

602
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: got paid for, paid a lot of money off.

603
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: How difficult was it to come out because you said,

604
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: the Hollywood exect broke you, and that's not easy for

605
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: a man, especially a man of your stature. Right, and

606
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the fabrications of the stories

607
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: that started being fabricated about you. Did you think, because

608
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: you said, anytime you come out with something, you've already

609
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: you've already calculated the risk and the cost of whatever

610
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: you're going to say or do, did you think you

611
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: would get the kind of blowback or the because I

612
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: don't think a whole lot of people believed you.

613
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it was gonna be strange.

614
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: First of all, if it hadn't happened to me and

615
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: I heard it, I'd have been like, man, what is

616
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: this dude talking about? That's why I never got mad.

617
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't get mad at people going, man, what are

618
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: you doing? Man? Big ass terry crews. But see, I'd

619
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: already been through probably eight years of therapy, me and

620
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: my wife rebuilding me understanding what true power was, me

621
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: understanding that it wasn't about how hard I you gotta

622
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: understand in the NFL road rage works.

623
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: That works. Been in real life. Go to jail real life.

624
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: Hey man, you can do what you did on the

625
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: NFL football field. You do what you did in mm A.

626
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: You're going You're going to jail, straight straight to jail,

627
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: jail full be. That was like, I ain't taking that.

628
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: And I realized because my wife made me promise, she said, Harry,

629
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: because she you know, I used to have hair trigger

630
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: and temper and be fighting people.

631
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: And she was like, man, what are you doing. We're

632
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: gonna lose everything. You can't do this. You got a

633
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: son now, and some was my last one. That's my face.

634
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: She said, you want to you want to be able

635
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: to show him, you want to be able to be

636
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: the air for but you acting like this. And I

637
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: realized something and I said, man, there's much more power

638
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: in thinking your way out of situations and fighting your

639
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: way out of And this was this blew me away.

640
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: It's because my my wife was right there, and I

641
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: remember we went home and I was like this is

642
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't believe it. She said, Terry, Terry,

643
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: he said, ain't a woman in your life. Ain't been

644
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: through that shit? Okay, And she said, now what you

645
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: gonna do he said, because we can't fight our way

646
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: through out this stuff. He said, your daughter, your mother, me,

647
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: the places where you just had to eat. It said,

648
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: you're right, and I said, you know what, I said,

649
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it the other way. I'm gonna seem

650
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: And she said, here you go, and I'm gonna tell

651
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: you how to do it.

652
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: Wow.

653
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: My wife was right there with me, and she said,

654
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: you tell what happened, and you show people this could happen.

655
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 3: And I remember I said, hey, man, signs ain't got

656
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: nothing to do with First of all, if you did it.

657
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's like saying I'm too big to

658
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: get shot. Uh well, actually the perfect size that Hey well,

659
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: if the bullet hit I didn't, you know what I mean. No,

660
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: I'm big, I'm giyant, my chest was so and all

661
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 3: that went right there. I'm standing there and it happened,

662
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 3: just if I acknowledged. If I don't say nothing, that

663
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: don't mean it didn't happen. Correct, So what does that mean?

664
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 3: But now I said, hold up, hold up, if because

665
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: they were telling me that he could get away, they

666
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: can do it.

667
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: It's my agency. Man.

668
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: I feel like I paid y'all millions of dollars, man millions,

669
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: And of course I'm sitting here going I'm on the

670
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: black side of this thing. So I'm going, yo, wait

671
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: a minute, now, would you be doing this to your

672
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: white clients? I'm going uh, I said, so what is

673
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: going on? Why is this dude still there? And I said, well,

674
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: they thought I was trying to do some money, like

675
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: get me a money grab her. I said no, no,

676
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 3: I said, I don't want no money.

677
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: But he gotta go.

678
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: You don't get to touch the clients. You don't get

679
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: to do that. And all of a sudden they were like, no,

680
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: he gets to say he's a partner. I was like,

681
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: all right, we're going to And dude, I spent a

682
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 3: half a million dollars on my own money. But how

683
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: many women have that? How many people have that? How

684
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: many I was in the posit like, I said, how

685
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 3: many I get to have that because I got that

686
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: kind of money. But for me, I would have spent

687
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: a million dollars to win one dollar. And I said

688
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: that my wife, and my wife was like, go ahead, Terry.

689
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: She said, this is how you fight, not with your fists.

690
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: Must you think your way through this thing?

691
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: And you know, what it. Finally came up with it.

692
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: And finally, because it's the thing, when you do stuff

693
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: like that, you don't rob the biggest bank in the place.

694
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: You robbed a whole bunch of little books.

695
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: And all these people came out the wood work man

696
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: that nobody knows about that joined my case.

697
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: They were like, he did this to me too, Yeah,

698
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: he did this. He was coming, I said this stud

699
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden they were like, hey, Terry,

700
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: guess what. We're gonna fire him and we're gonna give

701
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: you all your money back. How about that? I say, cool,

702
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: all the money that y'all all took in from them fees,

703
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: I need that.

704
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: All that giving my money back, thank you, And I

705
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: moved on. See, but remember it's not about revenge. It's

706
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: about but a man. And this is one thing I

707
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: want every man out there to know. They said you

708
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: worth it because you can discount yourself.

709
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: Like, oh man, it wasn't no thing, It ain't no thing.

710
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: But this is the thing.

711
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 3: How I had to look at myself. I have a

712
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: little picture of myself. I was ten years old on

713
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: my desk and I said, man, what if somebody had

714
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 3: messed with that little kid?

715
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: What would you do that's you take care of you

716
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: take care of you.

717
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: Really, don't let nobody treat that little boy like he's worthless,

718
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: because that little boy is me well. And that's the

719
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 3: same thing. I think every man needs to understand who.

720
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: He really really is. And the thing is doesn't mean

721
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: beating people up, doesn't mean.

722
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: Swinging a bat, shooting up the place, doesn't me driving

723
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: a car through the center of the thing.

724
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: It means, hey man, you can't do that. No standing up.

725
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 2: It's taking your voice and that's your story.

726
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: And I stood with all and let me see, I

727
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: was inspired by all these women that came forward that

728
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: was like, hey me too, I got this happened to me.

729
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: This happened to me. And you know what, I cannot count.

730
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: The number of men that came forward, and it was

731
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: like man, wrestlers, players, all this.

732
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: They was like what happened to me? And they were

733
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: coming out. I would never tell people to make their

734
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: stuff public, would never ever.

735
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: Say, but you gotta tell a counselor a friend somebody

736
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: so that you can get past this. And I was

737
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 3: just in the public eye, and I had that skill

738
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: and ability to deal with it in the public because

739
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm always publich.

740
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: How did it make you feel that some prominent people

741
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: in our community made the light of your situation?

742
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: I understood it. Man.

743
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: You gotta know I'm from Flint, man. You know, first

744
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 3: of all, you grow up with you in the hood.

745
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: You know about what's wrong with you.

746
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You got a big head.

747
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: That's big head, Johny. You got big ears, that's ears whatever.

748
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: You know. You know, it's like you grow up with

749
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: you gotta be tough. That's the whole They trash talk whatever,

750
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: get dumped on.

751
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: You don't live it down. I mean, that's just the

752
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: way it was.

753
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 3: And I started to realize, hmm, well they gonna talk anyway,

754
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: so you know what I mean, So let me give

755
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: me something to talk about. But I started to realize,

756
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 3: oh when I had so many black people come forward

757
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: and say thank you, thank you, hey, bro, thank you

758
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: for coming forward and saying what happened?

759
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: Because that happened to me. Man.

760
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 3: People are pulling me to the side. And that's why

761
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: I know I was right. I knew I said, no,

762
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: this is a problem. I was going to going to parties,

763
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: going to Hollywood stuff. Man.

764
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: People pulling me to the side. In tears.

765
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 3: I just got to talk with somebody, and I'm going listen, man.

766
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: And I knew when I went in front of the

767
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: United States Congress and told that story in front of

768
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: the kind of all those senators and the whole thing,

769
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: I said, this is a major problem, and I knew

770
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 3: my purpose. It was almost like it transcended football Hollywood.

771
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: Now I'm in the government circles that I'm going, wow.

772
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: And if one person's life changed because of that, it

773
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: was working.

774
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: You caught a lot of criticism, a lot of black

775
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: a lot of heat with the Gabrielle situation, Gabrielle Union situation.

776
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: I think she was released from AGT and it seemingly

777
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: some of the tweets that you said about black communism,

778
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: I think something to that event. No, uh, what was

779
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: what was the term black supremacy? And for the longest time,

780
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: it seemed like black Twitter was on your side, the

781
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: black society was on your side. But it seemed like

782
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: when you didn't come to the defense of Gabrielle, it

783
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: seems like it switched on you a little bit. And

784
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: then it was tough because you're you're you know, you're

785
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: on an island. You're on an island. How were you

786
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: able to get over that? And then have you talked

787
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: to Gabrielle since then?

788
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

789
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me tell you man, that is one of

790
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: my biggest, biggest regrets. Again, I apologize publicly, but up

791
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: unt this time, I never had talked to her. And

792
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: this is the thing, man, And the problem I had

793
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: was getting on Twitter. Yeah, and you can't have a

794
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: nuanced conversation.

795
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: It's the thing too.

796
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: Not in one hundred and what was an eighty characters

797
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: back then, one hundred and forty nine to eighty.

798
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: We still can't.

799
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: And this is another thing. You can't do anything angry.

800
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: And I got angry. People's talking, you know the internet talks.

801
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: They talked jump, they talked about about my wife, they

802
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: talk about my kids, and I got mad. And then

803
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: he started to tweet angry. Tweeting is like, it's just

804
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: like road rade, and it wasn't smart. And let me

805
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: tell you a beautiful story. And I think this is

806
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: gonna sum it all up. And I hope, I really

807
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: really hope that everyone understands because this is such a

808
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: beautiful thing. Two years ago, my wife and I were

809
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: celebrating our anniversary at a It was at a music

810
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: festival with Robert Clasper and all these cats. And when

811
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: we sitt up there and Dwayne Wade and Gabby come

812
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: in and now I didn't know they were there, but

813
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: my wife was looking behind me. She's like, honey, honey,

814
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I look and I said, oh, man,

815
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: And I knew, I said, because I had apologized publicly,

816
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: but we had never talked personally.

817
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: Now I knew through therapy. It's one of those things

818
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: that you got.

819
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: You have to wait to be invited into people's circles,

820
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 3: you know, especially.

821
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: If there was anything wrong.

822
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: Man. Dwayne Wade came up to me and I get

823
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: this top on my shoulder. Dude, it was the most

824
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 3: beautiful thing ever.

825
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: I turned around.

826
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: He said, some black man, what's up? So I see

827
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: another black king here. I just want to acknowledge you.

828
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: He just be a hug. Wow.

829
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: Hey, man, I'm broke. I'm sitting here going on. Not

830
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: anybody could have been like, man bumped this dude. I'm

831
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: out of here, I said, man. I said, man, can

832
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: I talk to you and your wife together? He said, Man,

833
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: come over here, Shannon. It was me, Gabby, Rebecca and

834
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: Dwayne just a sport. No Internet, no nothing, and I

835
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: went right over and I said, I am sorry, Gabriel,

836
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: because there's things I didn't know. I'm speaking because I'm

837
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: speaking angry, but there was so much to the story

838
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: and I didn't even fully understand, and I screwed that up.

839
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: And then the Internet got involved, and then it was horrifying.

840
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: And my wife. This is another thing. My wife was

841
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: telling me not to say anything. Now, don't, don't, don't,

842
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm I'm Terry Crews.

843
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: This is where you get arrogant, and this is where

844
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: you get prideful. And I was wrong.

845
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: I was wrong, and I apologized to her face again, Gabby,

846
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 3: please please accept this apology, and dude, she did.

847
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: She gave me the biggest hug, hugged my wife. Dude.

848
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: We ate with them, we had lunch with them, enjoyed

849
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: this music. And I'm sitting here like, who gets this? Man?

850
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: Dwayne and Gabby I got nothing but the utmost respect,

851
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: because if anybody could have just been I ain't got

852
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: nothing to say to them.

853
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: But I said, what a move like, man? That was?

854
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: That transcended what I call.

855
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: It was.

856
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: It was from heaven. Man.

857
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: It was like a whole nother thing and a level

858
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: of humility that it took for him to come over

859
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: and just be like, give me that love. Like that, man,

860
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: they will forever be. I'm an admiration. I'm in awe

861
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: of him and her and I'm just thankful. I'm thankful

862
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: to call them friends, and I'm thankful that they gave

863
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: me this shot to say that I apologize to their

864
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: faith without the Internet, without all this junk.

865
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: And it was hard, man, that whole time.

866
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there was a lot of tweets going on

867
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: black lives matters, what we've got to make sure black

868
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: lives are better, were things of that much. Uh So

869
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: it kind of morphed. You were like angry that people

870
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: were saying these shots, and they kind of morphed into something.

871
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: It's you can't and this other thing. Man, It's just

872
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: that you know all things.

873
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: You know, I had to learn to shut up, right.

874
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: Ain't the hot take? I don't need you don't need

875
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 3: to give a hot take. There's no hot takes on everything.

876
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: You reach a point where you, okay, I'm in the

877
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: public eye. Time for me to issue a statement. H No, No,

878
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: in fact, don't say anything. And one let me tell you, man,

879
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: just like I learned in the NFL how to really

880
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 3: really work hard with this thing. I had to learn

881
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: how to be quiet. How do you out of your

882
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: league here?

883
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

884
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: This is too complex a conversation. There's too much nuance

885
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: here for you to wrap it up in the tweet.

886
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

887
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: It's too much, too much pain involved. And I heard

888
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 3: a lot of people. I heard a lot of people

889
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: with that. And it's again it's one of those things

890
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: where I apologize, but I have to say.

891
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know in my heart why because I

892
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: was angry and you can't speak out of anger. You

893
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: hurt me too. When you tried to boycott Magic City,

894
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: I would you know, everybody nerves. I didn't closing down.

895
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: I did try to be on the other side he

896
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: took I closed it down, Open it up, open it up.

897
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: That was my porn problem, you know what I mean.

898
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: I've been very vocal about that, but that was me.

899
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 3: You know, man again, you know.

900
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: What can I say? Man, there's people who hate my

901
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: guns this day. I totally you ever been a Magic

902
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we were playing. You are closing down

903
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: if you don't got got your people. I've been there.

904
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: I mean when I was in the league, that's the

905
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: first stop in Atlanta. Man, they'd be like, Okay, we're

906
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: going you know what I mean again, Man, My thing is,

907
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: I just.

908
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: I got to shut up.

909
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: And even my wife was like, you need to be quiet.

910
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 3: I said, you know, I think I do. And over

911
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, I've been learning what the

912
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: problem is. I was too quick with statements and my

913
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: ears weren't open, and I needed to listen. And that's

914
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: what I've been doing now. I just tell the story,

915
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: my own story, my personal stories, and I just been

916
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: quick to lesson.

917
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at this card and people I've noticed this, Yeah,

918
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: explain the story how that happened.

919
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: I was two years old in the hood and my

920
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: mother we was in the little tow up spot and

921
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: I put an extension cord in my mouth and the exploded.

922
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: This is actually repaired. I had a huge keyloid on

923
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: my lip when I was a kid and all the

924
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: pictures with me as a kid, and I had it

925
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: taken out when I was in high school and repaired

926
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: a little bit.

927
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 2: But it's almost it's my reminder I should have died.

928
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 3: You know. I was shocked, but not electricutited bran God

929
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: at two years old, I could have been that could

930
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: have been obviously growing up with that. You know, when

931
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: you grow up, like we grow up, kids are going

932
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 3: to make light of anything. If you the slightest in

933
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: any shape former manner, it's going to become a joke.

934
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's called electric lip.

935
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: They were electric clip ooh electric lip. They a whole

936
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 2: little thing. So how so how was it?

937
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: How was your upbringing? You were you bullied a lot

938
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: because I read were you? Like the way you talk

939
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: talk it's not typical for Flint, and so they like

940
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: you trying to be white.

941
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you gotta understand, I'm an artist and

942
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 3: I'm walking through cats from the gang members, the drug dealers.

943
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 3: It's the eighties, right, Okay, eighties Flint, Michigan, which is crazy, Yeah,

944
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 3: because the factories are dying. People went straight into the

945
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: drug game. So it was about, you know, you got

946
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: to look cool. You had to have your troop soup,

947
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 3: you had to have a certain you got the Jordan's

948
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: own woo. And so I had a portfolio.

949
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: And I'm like, uh, and.

950
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: Anytime you talked about wanting because again I've talked a lot,

951
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 3: and they were like, you want to be white. You

952
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: want to be if I talk riches and talked about

953
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: I want to be rich, and.

954
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: I wanted to h yeah, yeah, you want to be white.

955
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: And that was that was kind of hard because you know,

956
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 3: I had to hide a lot of my talent. You know,

957
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: I had to hide I had to be a man.

958
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what y'all was all about. Man, that's

959
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: where Friday after the Next came from. I was just

960
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: jumped into one of them and that attitude and that

961
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: whole thing. And people are like, man, he ain't even

962
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: like that people who knew me, but nobody who knew me,

963
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: they was like, oh man, I was scared of Damon

964
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: for years.

965
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: But the thing was is that that's I had to

966
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: what they call what they call it signal. What is it?

967
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: I forget? It's like, uh, you switch cold, the COLDE switch.

968
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: I had the colde switch in order to make it,

969
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because I actually I was

970
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: just very sheltered, mom, religious, father, hate sports, the whole thing,

971
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: and they just make it home, right. But then you're

972
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 3: going through the hood on the way home, and Flint

973
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 3: was going through everything so it got really crazy. You

974
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 3: tell the story. I read the story that when you

975
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: were five you tried to kiss your dad on the

976
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: cheek to tell it you love it, because that's seemingly

977
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: as a young man, young boy, and that's what you wanted.

978
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: You wanted to hear your father tell you he loved you,

979
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: so since he never told you, you were going to

980
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: tell him.

981
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: And you said, he looked at.

982
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: You, looks at me like I had an eye in

983
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 3: the middle of my forehead. And I remember he was

984
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: he was still drunk, and I remember kissing him on

985
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: the cheek and I was just waiting for.

986
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: This, like I love you, son. I was like, I

987
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: love you died, but he looked at me like I'll

988
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: never forget. I said, I'll never do that again. I'll

989
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:34,959
Speaker 2: never do that again.

990
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: And it kind of became where I knew, that's where

991
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: we were gonna be, you know what I mean, that's

992
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: where our relationship kind of.

993
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Even at five, you didn't even at the right age

994
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,479
Speaker 1: of five, you didn't see your relationship progressing any further

995
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: than what it was at that moment, even as you

996
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: reach your teenage years, your twenties, forever, how long.

997
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: He was on earth, and you continue to grow as

998
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: a young man.

999
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing man, Being that vulnerable hurt. Yeah,

1000
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: because I was vulnerable at that moment, and I realized

1001
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: that even as an actor, my whole thing is showing vulnerability.

1002
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You don't see a character

1003
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: until you're vulnerable. And the fact that.

1004
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: All the stuff I've been going through is a response

1005
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: to that. Go ahead, I'll tell people that I got molested.

1006
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: That's showing vulnerability. Where the whole thing was. You know,

1007
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: you gotta be you gotta be hard, you gotta you

1008
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 3: can't never let them see you sweat. You know that's weak,

1009
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: that's weak. But I realized vulnerability and strength, you know. Yes,

1010
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: the fact is, I'm mean, I listen, I hurt.

1011
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: Man. You step on my toe, it hurt. You shoot me,

1012
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: it hurts. You know what are at times? I cry?

1013
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm love to shoot.

1014
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 3: I cried a couple of times while we're doing this interview, right,

1015
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And there's a lot of

1016
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: things that hurt. And it's first of all, entertainment itself.

1017
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: It's how we deal with paint. Sometimes you lie, sometimes

1018
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 3: you cry, but that's how we're dealing with it.

1019
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1020
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 3: You need to see a funny movie to deal with

1021
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: your paint. You need to see a drama to recognize

1022
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: your pain, you know what I mean. That's why you

1023
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: put it on a slow jail. You know what I mean,

1024
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 3: something that you gotta feel it. You lost her, you

1025
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: know what I mean. She was gone, She's gone, and

1026
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: you got to feel it. These things, this is what

1027
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 3: entertainment is about. And if you can't show vulnerability, you

1028
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 3: can't be in it. You can't be in this game.

1029
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: Not here.

1030
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: And I realized I was gonna have a problem if

1031
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: I couldn't, so I said, I'm always just be that

1032
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 3: dude and let the chips fall.

1033
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: I read the story, and I always wanted to ask

1034
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: you this because it takes a special type of per

1035
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: It takes a for a son to actually fight his father,

1036
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: because the dynamic and the thing I've always told my kids,

1037
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: I said, our dynamic will never change.

1038
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna be your dad.

1039
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: You're always gonna be my child, I said, And I

1040
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: never want you to put me in a situation where

1041
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: I view you as anything other than that. And so

1042
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: we've always maintained a relationship in that aspect. I'm the father,

1043
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: I'm they're the child. There's a respect level on both

1044
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: sides as they have reached adulthood for you to go

1045
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: to that level, because to fight your dad, you no

1046
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: longer view him as your dad.

1047
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 2: You view him as someone on the street that at

1048
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: this moment, I don't care.

1049
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: That was the darkest day, darkest day. You gotta understand

1050
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 3: the context of that situation that he had just hit my.

1051
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: Mother and in front of you. Well, no, he had

1052
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: hit I wasn't there, but the whole I got a

1053
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: phone call, okay.

1054
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: And oh, your daddy just hit your mama. Oh now,

1055
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: I'm a grown ass man.

1056
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: Post that fair. I already played the league like, hey man, what.

1057
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, right right, you talked to

1058
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: a five year old boy. I'm like, bro, what and

1059
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: they see this thing too. I had already called. I said, hey, man,

1060
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: don't trip, don't trip. My kids ain't never been around this,

1061
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 3: They never had nothing like this.

1062
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: So it's act right. And you know, holiday is hard, right, right, right?

1063
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: Just be on your best behavior.

1064
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 3: Where the kids, please, just please, and dude, he hit her,

1065
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 3: knocked her two sideways like it was crooked, hit her

1066
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: dad in the mouse, she's bleeding, I said, did not

1067
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: tell you? Now, bro, everything came out at that one time.

1068
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 3: It wasn't that I didn't see you as my father anymore.

1069
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 3: It was you that I'm fine, and you're that dude

1070
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: that I was so scared of. And I got to

1071
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: get rid of this right now. Now you're gonna get

1072
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: what you've been giving twenty five years. But listen, man,

1073
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 3: I did it, and at that moment, wait, I beat

1074
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: his ass and I felt nothing.

1075
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: I was thought I was gonna feel.

1076
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: Oh, this is great, this is great, it's wonderful. Now

1077
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: finally it's all straight. Felt worse because now I just

1078
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: beat up the man that brought me into this world, right,

1079
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 3: huh huh? See the thing, all this stuff that people

1080
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: think of the road rad jump out the car, shoot

1081
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: the guy, shoot him.

1082
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: How you feel now? Oops?

1083
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: I ain't never been in one of the moments where

1084
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: it's like, oops, damn, I went too far. I didn't

1085
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have done that. How many times we gotta

1086
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: say that I've done it, I've done it too far?

1087
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: What did he say after after that moment done?

1088
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: What did he say to you? How do you do

1089
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: how do you look at you, because it's not so

1090
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: much what he said to you is the look that

1091
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: he gave you.

1092
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even look at That's that's how I didn't

1093
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: want to look at it. I was ashamed. I was ashamed.

1094
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 3: You know what a man is never meant to attack

1095
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: his parents. No, it's just not it's just does not

1096
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: seek to exist. But let me tell you, we did

1097
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: have a great moment about ten years later because I

1098
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: left and.

1099
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: Never came back for a long long time.

1100
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 3: We did have a moment because I said, and this

1101
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: is during my therapy sessions, and I called my father

1102
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: up and I said, you know, I need to talk

1103
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: to you because I need to find one thing that

1104
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: i'm thankful for you for. And I said, I'm thankful

1105
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: for you for having me, because if you didn't have me,

1106
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't exist. I said, thank you for being my father.

1107
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: And that was that you just had to put one thing.

1108
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't all just hey, man, if it wasn't for you,

1109
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: I would never be here.

1110
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, he.

1111
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: Cried, apologized, He said he was sorry, and I never

1112
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 3: had that did. I blew home and we hugged it out.

1113
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe we're on a new path, man

1114
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 3: on a new path, and then I left me. He

1115
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: slowly started getting back, you know, back hard and again.

1116
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 3: But I'll never forget. That's why I know there's a way, right,

1117
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 3: there is a way. Just why you talking about this

1118
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: today sitting down? If he's willing, I'm going to see,

1119
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to see if he's willing to try this

1120
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: one more time because we're all running out of time.

1121
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: You mentioned their wife staying together after there's some infatility

1122
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: on your part. Do you believe your wife you guys

1123
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: would be as close as you are now without that.

1124
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 3: First of all, we were on our way to break up.

1125
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: I mean, twenty years in, it was, it was over.

1126
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: That's why always I could I could totally understand men

1127
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: that are divorce. And I'll be real that ball was

1128
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 3: on the fence. It could have went display that way.

1129
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: Did you start to become succumb to the temptation of Hollywood? Yeah?

1130
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, first of all, I had nobody

1131
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: was telling me. Everybody was telling me I was great, man,

1132
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 3: Oh man, don't worry about that.

1133
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: Man. Oh she tripping? You know what I mean?

1134
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 3: Everybody was like, oh really, They're like, oh man, look

1135
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 3: but looking you got money, You got this, You think

1136
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: what more she want to see? Notice that's people who

1137
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 3: don't live with her. It ain't nowhere in your circle. Man.

1138
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: She tripping and I'm going and you listen to that.

1139
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: But I wasn't hearing her right, and I wasn't hearing

1140
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 2: her heart. And the thing is is that the deal

1141
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: is can she have secrets? And what I accept that?

1142
01:00:59,160 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

1143
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: See, just flip the script, right, That's all you gotta do.

1144
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: I told her, man, it's so crazy for me. It

1145
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 3: was one of the things where I had to just

1146
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 3: flip it for a minute and go, I'm not being

1147
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: fair to her because she don't know the real me.

1148
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: And and the thing is, I always felt like if

1149
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: she found out the real me, she'd leave. And then

1150
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 3: in a way it was kind of like, see see, yep,

1151
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 3: now you know the real me, and now you want

1152
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 3: to leave?

1153
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: And she was like no, now, in fact, I want

1154
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: to stay, but I gotta go. I gotta go.

1155
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: Oh this is wow. And then I started to go

1156
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: to therapy. Yeah, now I'm coming out of football. They

1157
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 3: telling me all this stuff. I'm like, this ain't me.

1158
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: This is crazy, isn't it? And I realized, Yo, it

1159
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 3: was me. It was me bro lots of the stuff.

1160
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 3: And she decided, she said, you know what, I'm going

1161
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 3: to work it out. And I told her, I said,

1162
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 3: I understand you didn't. I said, I'm a new man,

1163
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna show you the man that you thought

1164
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 3: you were married. I'm the hymn now yep.

1165
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: And I spent the last fourteen years doing that and

1166
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: we're closer than nothing. I read you had to pawn

1167
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: your ring, your wedding band several times.

1168
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: You had friends, and that happens a lot because everybody

1169
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: has advice on what you should be doing that's not married.

1170
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: You got friends, that's not that bad man. If I

1171
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: had all that money that favor, I ain't gonna be

1172
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: listening to that. She got a nice car, got a

1173
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: big hog, YadA, YadA.

1174
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: YadA, y brother, but you're not married.

1175
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: I ain't taking advice from somebody that's hanging out every

1176
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: night because we're at two different places, right.

1177
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 2: It's amazing how people who ain't where you at. You

1178
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: got all the advice in the world until you Now

1179
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: when you get there, they go wait, wait, whoa, oh,

1180
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: I got to go home. I gotta go, I gotta

1181
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: go ahead, come home. Man. But now when I was

1182
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: mad and you work, you wanted to go ten You

1183
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Hey, First of all, I just

1184
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: realized more than ever.

1185
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 3: And this is thing too, because again, at fifty five,

1186
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: it's different than twenty five. Absolutely, you know, I've lived

1187
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: long enough to see people get it, win it, lose it,

1188
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 3: and you go damn oh. You start to see the results,

1189
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We call winners way too early. Yes,

1190
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 3: but everybody he won, he won. Wait a minute, Wait

1191
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 3: a minute. You give it just two more years and

1192
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 3: we'll see. Wait, give it ten more years, give it

1193
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: fifteen more years. I want again. It's not how you start,

1194
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 3: it's how you finish. And I said, man, first of all,

1195
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 3: you can be an adult prodigy. Think about everybody think

1196
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 3: about a prodigy as just.

1197
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 2: A kid that knows all the math and none. No, no,

1198
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: and they go, that's the kid.

1199
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 3: No, it's the cat that's sixty seventy right, that's like now,

1200
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: I know, but wisdom and that like that is not

1201
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: really valued at our society.

1202
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: So you got to be eighteen, right, you know what

1203
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean?

1204
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: Your wife. Color is always a source of a subject

1205
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: that's brought up for the record, she's black, correct, She's black, yes,

1206
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: black mama, white daddy and been raised like that. But

1207
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: again just because she don't have that kind of look, right,

1208
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: But her mama is black. She's from Gary, Indiana.

1209
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 2: Brouh.

1210
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 3: My wife was Miss Gary, Indiana nineteen eighty four. And Gary,

1211
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,959
Speaker 3: Indiana is like Flint. Yeah, ain't nothing but black people.

1212
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: And she was raised in black culture, right, see what

1213
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it wasn't like she was raised in

1214
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: the outskirts.

1215
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: How has she been able to deal with that for

1216
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: the better part of forty years since she's made you

1217
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: how have you been able to deal with that?

1218
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: Because I know you here all the time. I bet

1219
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: you know she's he got a little money, he go

1220
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: get him a white woman, right, right, But but she

1221
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: knows that. And that's the thing we got to understand.

1222
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: Even in Gary, they knew the problem is in Gary,

1223
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: they knew she was black, right because they saw her

1224
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 3: mama and mama go to school and no, no, they go,

1225
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 3: oh yeah, and she got black friends. But when we

1226
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: go to a new town and like, oh, she's a

1227
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: white woman, I say no, No, she's Obama. Okay, But

1228
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 3: but but she's also we also have dealt with that.

1229
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

1230
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 3: It's one of them things where we went to join

1231
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: the church down here and people say, oh, he is

1232
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 3: this white woman.

1233
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: And bring this white woman in this church. It's like,

1234
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: but if you got the attitude, that might not be

1235
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: the church we want to get into, you know what

1236
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: I mean. But we already used to it. But we're

1237
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: not non prove. And this is another thing, And this

1238
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: is what I admire about her is that it never

1239
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: bothered her. She was like, I love black people, and

1240
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: even if some of them feel that I'm white, I

1241
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: understand it. Wow, and it's deep to me.

1242
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 3: And that's the way I had to start thinking, because

1243
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: I would get angry, absolutely, but to watch her the

1244
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 3: way she dealt with things peacefully, like I'm not gonna

1245
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: go there, you know what. That's the trauma that they

1246
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 3: had to deal with. I understand it. I understand it,

1247
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 3: and I go, wow, we shaid, But I love them anyway.

1248
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: I love that.

1249
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you out of here on this AGT.

1250
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: You've been at this for a minute now and you're

1251
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: great at it. And do you see more movies, more TV?

1252
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: Because it seems like you got a fairly I mean, obviously,

1253
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: I know how television work. You probably shoot two or

1254
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: three months out of the year, you wrap it, and

1255
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: then you got to oportunity to do whatever you needed

1256
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: to do. Far as tell the movie.

1257
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 3: Wise, Yeah, I got a big, big movie called The

1258
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 3: Killer's Game coming out next year.

1259
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: Me, Dave Batissa, Sophia Patteller. I'm a bad boy at this.

1260
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: I can't wait, Assassin. But you know, the whole business

1261
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: is changing, you know.

1262
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 3: I remember when you know right now there's only like

1263
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 3: three movies in the theater right now, I remember there

1264
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 3: used to be ten, twenty now streaming things and all.

1265
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: This and that. You know, are you okay with that?

1266
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it. No.

1267
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 3: First of all, the new new stuff, it's new, so

1268
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 3: don't I'm like Quincy Jones, don't get mad on new stuff.

1269
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: Let's let's keep going. You know what I'm saying.

1270
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 3: He did, Frank Sinatra, he said, come on, Michael Jackson

1271
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: and whoever, Tevin Campbell, Let's keep going.

1272
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm not dude. I love doing what I do, and

1273
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: a lot.

1274
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 3: Of times I see it's kind of wild because the

1275
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: business is changing, so bad ass and The thing is,

1276
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: I want to keep up. If we were doing everything

1277
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: on YouTube, let's do it. Look the NFL is on YouTube.

1278
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 3: It is, Ain't that question that's unthinkable? Amazon unthinkable. You

1279
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 3: go Netflix to listen. Don't hate on it. I don't

1280
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 3: hate on nothing. But I still am entertaining. I'm still

1281
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 3: doing movies, I'm still doing TV, and I'm still acting.

1282
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 3: I'm still hosting. My thing is to create five six

1283
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 3: way goals for me because I know one path is

1284
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 3: gonna be it's gonna get me through the other things

1285
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 3: so I can keep going. I thank god every I

1286
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 3: just did a thing for The Walking Dead last year.

1287
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Speaker 3: We shot it in Atlanta, and uh so I'm still acting.

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01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 3: I'm still doing all that stuff. Man, it's just again,

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01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 3: I wish we could do White Chicks too. I wish

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01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 3: we could, like you said, different day, Bro, different days.

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01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 3: So now I gotta flow with what's happening now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you remember when we were growing up, the sitcoms

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01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: all in the fan and did you ever say the

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Speaker 1: things that they say that?

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Speaker 2: He said that, yeah, it would never. But now you

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: know that's why I did.

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01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 3: I did a pilot for CBS last year, didn't get

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Speaker 3: picked up. But then the strike happened, so we'll see

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Speaker 3: what happens. Like you know, the town's coming back, so

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens now. But hey, man, I want

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Speaker 3: to say this though, and I really really want to

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01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 3: thank you for letting me tell that story about Dwayne

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01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 3: and Gabrielle. Thank you because I love him and they

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01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 3: showed me a whole nother level of kindness that I

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01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 3: didn't deserve. I'll be honest with you, and I'm thankful

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Speaker 3: for them. And it was so wild, man. I gave

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Speaker 3: them the biggest hug and I just said, man, thank you,

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 3: you know, and just to tell that story and be

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Speaker 3: able to tell in the right context.

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Speaker 2: I know you sat down here with Dwayne, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I got nothing but love, but gabriel nothing but

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Speaker 2: love me and Rebecca. Thanks for stoping my club head

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Speaker 2: Cruz lady and gentlemen, thank you. Thank you. All my life,

1314
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, pad the price, wanta slice,

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01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: got to brother the dice swap all my life. I've

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01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: been grinding all my life, all my life, and grinning

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01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 2: all my life. Sacrifice, hustle, pay the price, want a slice?

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01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 2: Got to bro the dice.

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01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: Squat all my life.

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Speaker 2: I've been grinding all my life.