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Speaker 2: Doctor Lindber can you tell us about the people who
Speaker 2: reach out to your organization, what kinds of reports they share,
Speaker 2: and whether they have any idea who might be targeting
Speaker 2: them and why.
Speaker 3: Well, people from all over the world actually contact via
Speaker 3: our website tell you Justice dot com and they report
Speaker 3: the reports are very similar in nature. They all report
Speaker 3: civil experience. It's the surveillance, it's the sensation of these attacks,
Speaker 3: and the attacks are very distinct in nature. This is why,
Speaker 3: because the symptoms current at all at the same time,
Speaker 3: it had to be declared and to be a novel
Speaker 3: medical syndrome. And the most debilitating parts actually are the
Speaker 3: visibular damage, to cognitive damage and also so called V
Speaker 3: two K, which is a voice to skull, which is
Speaker 3: actually the term of the US military. It used to
Speaker 3: be on their website and then it was taken away,
Speaker 3: but we have a record, a historic record that it
Speaker 3: was on the website through the archives. And this is
Speaker 3: a imagine. You have voices that constantly send some kind
Speaker 3: of derogatory messages and drive drives a target crazy. And
Speaker 3: we know that some of the shooters. Actually, uh, we're
Speaker 3: reporting the phenomena, and you know, the goal to explanation
Speaker 3: is a psychiatric disorder. But it is developing in people
Speaker 3: in their forties and fifties. This is not when a
Speaker 3: as schizophreniasion disorder developed. It all develops if you are
Speaker 3: not done by umid twenties, if you're not developed, it's
Speaker 3: it's not schizophrenia. But the evidence of educating, evidence of
Speaker 3: producing voices in one skull has been known since actually
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy five when it was reported that they could
Speaker 3: deliver it. When the method there are multiple methods and
Speaker 3: the most advanced methods are probably not known to us,
Speaker 3: but it is delivered by a nanotechnology in a person's brain,
Speaker 3: and it is high sophisticated. People don't have h the
Speaker 3: imagination to actually conceive these kind of very sophisticated methods
Speaker 3: for mind control and delivering voices. So this is a
Speaker 3: very very disturbing effect. And then there's there's so called
Speaker 3: HIES which actually there's a much better term for it.
Speaker 3: It's called new strike. Professor Robert mcgraid, who works with
Speaker 3: Native on advanced technologies coin disturb and it describes a
Speaker 3: use of directed energy weapons to induce a newer covnity
Speaker 3: of disruption in the target.
Speaker 2: I know part of your thesis is you know there
Speaker 2: somebody is testing these weapons on unsuspecting civilians. And I
Speaker 2: imagine that these people who get targeted are very confused.
Speaker 2: Why me must have trouble convincing their doctors what's going
Speaker 2: on is some sort of a weapons system being used
Speaker 2: against them. I noticed that GAO report the General Accounting Office,
Speaker 2: they had noted of the three hundred and thirty four
Speaker 2: cases of people who are government employees getting medical care
Speaker 2: for because they've been targeted, thirty five percent of them
Speaker 2: work for the Department of Defense, thirty five percent for
Speaker 2: the Intelligence Community CIA, NSA, twelve percent for the FBI.
Speaker 2: So I have a hard time thinking that the government
Speaker 2: is targeting its own employees, especially people in those lines
Speaker 2: of work. Those folks we suspect are targeted by Russians
Speaker 2: or other foreign entities. The sixty minutes report I'd mentioned
Speaker 2: before made a very compelling case that the Russians were
Speaker 2: responsible for some of the attacks on American personnel in Europe.
Speaker 2: Is there a broader explanation for people like you and
Speaker 2: people who contact your organization is it just random they're
Speaker 2: picked or do you have an idea?
Speaker 3: I can't defensively answer that question because ultimately we don't know.
Speaker 3: So our best guess is it's used as a weapon
Speaker 3: to suppress UH dissidents or bustle blowers and also have
Speaker 3: random people first, because this is exactly the question that
Speaker 3: would be asked, why you? So this program is designed
Speaker 3: to account for this sort of cognitive bias. It's exactly
Speaker 3: because you're nobody. This is why we we will target
Speaker 3: to to sort of this. Sorry, I'm looking for words
Speaker 3: UH two to to make these people sort of appear
Speaker 3: incoherent because why me, you and nobody? But for experimentation,
Speaker 3: he needs a bold spectrum of rus simples in the population.
Speaker 3: So I don't think this we can answer this question
Speaker 3: with one hundred percent certainty, but these are the best.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you. Let me ask you this. So
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is related or how closely
Speaker 2: it's related, but you know, the direct energy weapons they're
Speaker 2: targeting the brain and the head, and all the discombobulation
Speaker 2: and other symptoms that happen is one thing. Gang stalking
Speaker 2: sounds like something else. I get these reports pretty much
Speaker 2: every day people will write me emails or leave really
Speaker 2: long messages on my phone machine and say that they're
Speaker 2: under surveillance by a team of ten twenty thirty people
Speaker 2: and everything in their lives is watched, and they think
Speaker 2: everybody at the red light is following them, and people
Speaker 2: come into their house and move the furniture around, and
Speaker 2: every one of these reports is really long, like ten
Speaker 2: page letters, things of that sort, And I've sort of
Speaker 2: tried to avoid that because it never made sense to
Speaker 2: me why that many resources would be put into following
Speaker 2: the local grocery clerk or somebody who works a fast
Speaker 2: food joint or something like that. Is it related? Is
Speaker 2: it the same sort of an offshoot of Havana.
Speaker 3: Syndrome, the mast shoot off neurological surveillance, So pression imp
Speaker 3: locations know impersions thoughts I am exploring their cognitive viruses
Speaker 3: would be a part of this sococognitive warfare that can
Speaker 3: target one person's brain at a time, as far as
Speaker 3: you know people following you, and especially if you seek
Speaker 3: you was stocking. Because it it is a public safety issue,
Speaker 3: most of it is, uh we we think that most
Speaker 3: of it is conducted by people working with fusion centers
Speaker 3: and fusion centers that you know, wanted to in every state.
Speaker 3: And it's supposed to collect intelligence, but not it doesn't
Speaker 3: only collect intelligence, it's actually interferes with people that are
Speaker 3: put on this so called targeted list. Uh. And we
Speaker 3: can talk about the genesis of this list. These these
Speaker 3: people have been told that, uh, these people, these the
Speaker 3: targets are either suspected terrorists or or or involved in
Speaker 3: some some other criminal activities. But the truth is that
Speaker 3: that we are not. We the the targeted The b
Speaker 3: I maintained a terror screen database is growing exponentially every year.
Speaker 3: They're more and more, They're putting more and more people.
Speaker 3: And I think that the ultimate goal of this program
Speaker 3: is for everybody to be targeted in some way or
Speaker 3: at least money toward so you can switch on these
Speaker 3: cultureLike techniques and and and drive people to a suicide,
Speaker 3: or drive people to commit some some other acts or uh,
Speaker 3: degrade the health, deprive them from the their final financial freedom, employment,
Speaker 3: gainful enployment. It's it's uh, it's a basically war on
Speaker 3: the population. And we we have to accept them. In
Speaker 3: this time when the advances in newer technology in in
Speaker 3: other military techniques are so uh, they're so advanced. People
Speaker 3: don't have imagination to uh to conceive how advance they are.
Speaker 3: And that's been used uh to against it.
Speaker 2: Allians, Right, it doesn't sound like there's any kind of
Speaker 2: defense against it. I mean some of the reports I've
Speaker 2: read and saw on television about people who get targeted,
Speaker 2: you know, in their home and their business and their car.
Speaker 2: You could target the president in the White House. I
Speaker 2: guess if you had this technology. Tell me about your attacks.
Speaker 2: You said they're ongoing. So what happens when these attacks
Speaker 2: occur to you? And and how often.
Speaker 3: They are ongoing? Multiple times a day. There's not a
Speaker 3: day that I am not attacked. And they can last
Speaker 3: from fifteen minutes and up to an hour and a half.
Speaker 3: And they start with this deafening sound and vibration in
Speaker 3: the entire body. You become dizzy and it's hard to talk,
Speaker 3: it's hard to walk, You scramble your words, and the
Speaker 3: intensity can ramp up very very quickly, like within five
Speaker 3: to ten seconds. You you can go from like being
Speaker 3: somewhat okay to completely unable to tolerate this pain, and
Speaker 3: your memory suffers, your you you just you become dysfunctional.
Speaker 3: Basically and there's no there's no way to deal with
Speaker 3: these attacks. I mean normal like electromagnetic shielding does not
Speaker 3: work in my case at least UH. And we think
Speaker 3: that it's because of the specific advanced type of energy
Speaker 3: known as Teesla waves or or longitudeal electromagnetic waves are
Speaker 3: used in these attacks. They cannot be detected UH, at
Speaker 3: least by civilian UH of science based UH detectors. UH.
Speaker 3: The detectors actually in the in the intelligence reports, detection
Speaker 3: methods are still look like a black box. They're they're reducted.
Speaker 3: So we actually don't know are we would how we
Speaker 3: would document these attacks in terms of energy. But there
Speaker 3: are some you know, electronic nay meters and and they
Speaker 3: go off off the scale if you put it over
Speaker 3: your at. But this, you know, this is not this
Speaker 3: is not a First of all, you are a biased individual.
Speaker 3: These attacks happened to you. We want the government agencies
Speaker 3: like the FBI to investigate this. And what the invest
Speaker 3: recent whistle blow report UH by you know C a
Speaker 3: intelligence officer. It tells us that the C has been
Speaker 3: actively suppressing UH investigation by the f B I UH
Speaker 3: and using narratives that it's a psychogenic psycho semitic condition,
Speaker 3: so there's nothing for you to investigate, and which couldn't
Speaker 3: be further from the truth.
Speaker 2: I know that there were the National Academies of Sciences,
Speaker 2: we're looking at at the National Institutes of Health, we're
Speaker 2: working at it. And then they backed off that we
Speaker 2: canceled our research into this, which is very curious. We
Speaker 2: had an explanation from the government, maybe it was the
Speaker 2: NSA said yeah, that's nothing we could really prove on this.
Speaker 2: They're kind of dodging answering any tough questions or pointed questions.
Speaker 2: Is Congress interested? Have they taken up the cause and
Speaker 2: trying to ask questions of these agencies about this technology.
Speaker 3: Well, the founder's intelligence to me it has been interested
Speaker 3: in the diplomats and all the government employees overseas and domestically,
Speaker 3: that no interest has been expressed in terms of civilian cases.
Speaker 3: The mat on the doors of our Congress people, and
Speaker 3: there are some people who in Congress Version Center, Ron
Speaker 3: Johnson from Wisconsin, he reports that he's been attacked multiple
Speaker 3: times and we and she also reports that he went
Speaker 3: to people who are on the Intelligence Committee and they
Speaker 3: denied access to this critical information and he's been publicly
Speaker 3: complaining about, But what else was the question?
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