WEBVTT - 9021One on One: BoJesse Christopher 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:05.920 It's nine O G ONEG with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:14.640 Today on another episode of nine oh two one on one. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.880 Yeah you like that title? Oh I love it. We 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:23.200 have bo Jesse Christopher, who played Andy in four episodes 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:24.560 of nine O two one. Oh. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:25.720 Let's talk to them. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.200 Oh hi, O MG. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:30.520 Hi here you are. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:34.120 Oh my gosh, Wow, what a treat. 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:36.839 This is a blast from your past. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:38.960 This is my honor. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.920 Oh you're so sweet. Look at you. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:42.640 You look great. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.440 Thank you for saying that, Jenny, I really appreciate you. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:50.360 Guys are so beautiful life force energies. I'm so thrilled 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.000 and honored to be here with you both. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.800 We're so happy to have you. I mean, this is 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.040 crazy because we are in season four and we're just 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:05.080 watching you. Your character is like a drug pusher guy. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:06.880 He's not a great guy. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.479 Is he very the opposite of you? 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.080 Yeah, you know what, You're exactly right. And the craziest thing, 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.200 just very quickly is like, you know, Brian Austin Green 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.800 was one of my best friends prior to the show, 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.679 So being able to work with Brian in these scenes 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.319 as mister Andy opposite David Silver was like such a treat. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.119 How did you know Brian before? 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:32.800 So I moved to LA in nineteen eighty eight, straight 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.280 out of high school, you know, to do the acting thing. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.640 I wanted to be on twenty one Jump Street. That 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.680 was like Fox's Big Show. So it all ties in, right, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.559 Like I wanted to be Depp, everyone. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.360 Wanted everyone wanted to be dep me too, right like. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.080 He did Everyboddy's thing. So for me, right out of 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.279 high school, moved to LA and then one of my 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.320 my first friends was David. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:02:00.120 Faustino from Brian was children. 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.160 Brian and Brian and David were very close, and so 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.960 I got sort of jumped into that crew very quickly 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.519 when I got to LA, and Brian and I just 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.560 hit it off and we were like, you know, best buds, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.880 hanging out every day. And there's so many related stories 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.080 to this that lead to nine oh two one oh, 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.280 so many things I want to talk about, I know 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.079 no at the beginning. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.919 So wait, Jen and I were talking about this last week. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.680 Were we remembering there was a club called Ballistics, right? 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:30.280 Yeah? 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:35.040 Yeah, okay, and all three of you were involved, right yeah? 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.040 So there was Rainbow remember Rainbow? Yes? 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:38.920 Oh my god? 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.960 So there was there was big Bow and then little Bow. Okay, okay, 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.160 so big Bow was bow, Jesse, little Bow was Rainbow. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:51.040 So it was really like Rainbow David Faustino, Brian Austin Green, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.160 and then like Nick Adler and a few other people 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.600 kind of related to that. Yeah, but that but I'm 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.480 sure you were there a few times. I'm sure. I'm 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.440 sure that Brian got you there. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.840 Tried to you know, so for sure I went there. Den, 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.119 do you remember going there? 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.240 No, I don't think Jenny would have gone. That would 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.040 have been like Brian would have tried to talk you 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:10.840 into going, Tori. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.560 But like it was like one of those things. It 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:13.440 wasn't like every night. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.799 It was like a takeover each week at somewhere else, right, Yeah, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:17.079 it was. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.080 Like at the Roxy. I think it started the Roxy night. Yeah, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:21.840 but at that point, so at that point, just just 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.480 so I can pivot, because this will lead up to 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.000 the mister. Okay, so at that point, so really quickly. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.800 So Brian Austin Green, our boy, Brian David Silver, for 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.720 those who are listening, we love still one of my closest, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.760 hearest friends. I love him so much. I'm so proud 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.200 of him, and he's his life as beautiful. I love 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.400 him as I looked too, of you, his sisters and 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.920 you know, forever just in my heart, top of my mind. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:49.200 So thank you for that. Brian had an audition for 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.839 this thing called Point Break, which was my big sort 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.440 of entry point into the business, right. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.880 Brian an audition for that part too. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.320 Well, it was his audition. He said, hey, bo, you 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.960 drive me to this audition because you're a surfer. You 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.920 know this whole lexicon, you know this surfing. I got 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.880 this audition at the end of the day, when you 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.640 drive me kind of warm me up for the thing. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.800 He was the last audition, went in, came out, and 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.800 you know Brian, when Brian gets a little nervous, he 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.560 bites his nails. But you know Brian, he does that 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.400 whole Remember young Brian biting his. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.159 Nail, so he still he has no nails to the same. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.920 You know, Brian came out. I could tell he kind 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.240 of maybe bombed the audition. I stuff in my head 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.160 and I remember the casting director came out and said 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.200 are you next? And I said no, and he goes, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:34.680 are you an actor? I said yeah, and he goes, 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.359 you're next. So I had Brian's keys in my pocket. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.159 I just walked by Brian and probably was so pissed, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.719 you know, he was sting. I walked right by him, 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.560 went into the room. Rick Bagana, who was a casting director, 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.400 hand me some sides and said, let's give it a shot. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.039 I said, I think I got it underneath the size, 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.800 and he goes, oh, you got it. Okay, let's see 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.760 what you got. So I stood on a chair, did 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.080 my thing. He goes, hold on a second, went down 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.520 the hall, came back Catherin Bigelow, the director, and said 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.880 do that again. So I did it, and she in 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.760 the room said you got the job. I walked out 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.400 of the audition. Brian's like, come on, dude, what's going on? 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:13.000 You got my hijack my audition? So I booked Point Break. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.040 There's more to that story, but it's not about Point Break. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:16.440 It's about nine o two and oh. So I come 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.040 out and Brian's super angry and mad, and I said, hey, man, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.480 you just did this pilot. You're fine, because he had 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.280 just shot the pilot for nine oh two one oh 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:25.800 and I think you guys sat for a little bit 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.039 before they picked the show up right and got back 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.560 into the season. I want to say, was a little 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.320 bit of time before the pilot and maybe jumping into 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.000 the season or the season one getting picked up. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.080 You remember more than I were. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:44.640 Like why, I'll tell you why, because I wanted so 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.920 bad to be on the show. So anyway, I did 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.920 Point Break and Brian was a little you know, kind 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.680 of like, dude, that was that was you know, that 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.360 wasn't cool what you did. So Brian was holding a 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.200 little bit of a grudge, and I said, Brian, you're fine. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:56.960 He got this pilot, it's probably gonna get picked up. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.119 You're going to be good. I went away did Point Break. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.800 They started realistics that club. Right after that the season 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:05.720 season one got picked up and you guys went into 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.159 production on episode two. I was waiting for Point Break 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.760 to come out. I had originally auditioned for the role 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.480 Steve the Iron zero, and I remember right before I 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.320 hijacked Brian's audition for Point Break, and I went and 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.720 did Point Break for almost a year. This movie that 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.520 kind of launched my acting career. I had auditioned for 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.440 for nine to two and l got close, didn't get it, 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.279 and then I was hurting for money, and so I 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.600 did background work on the pilot and I remember day 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.200 one and I think it was it was Iron driving 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.000 that red Corvette or they had that red car with 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.160 a flashy car on the pilot. He drove up to 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.560 the school and got out, and like Steve, it was 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.120 like the establishing Steve character, I think, and I think 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.359 I remember seeing Jenny and Iron day one. I just 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.760 was like, I really want to be in the show, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.520 you know. And then I went and did Point Break, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.960 came back and it took four seasons of me auditioning 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.080 for nine oh two one zero for getting really close 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.960 to find mister Andy in season four Full Circle. But 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.600 I got to work with my buddy Brian, you know, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:14.560 a lovely tree. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.840 Was he still pissed at you at that point? He 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:18.280 holds grudges? Are you sure? 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.280 No, Brian's super, Let's call. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:21.600 Him right now. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.000 You think he still holds a grudge. No, wait, I 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:25.600 want to hear about Point Break though. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.520 Yeah. Hello, for those of you who don't know you 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.520 were in Point Brank, tell us about your character. It's 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.320 a very important character. 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:35.120 I appreciate you saying that. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:36.480 Love that movie. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.720 So I was Gromet slash LBJ, I was the ex president. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.960 I was Lyndon Johnson was my ex president. I was 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.520 Patrick Swayzey's younger brother. I was part of this crew 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.200 that robbed banks to finance our Endless Summer. This film 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.720 was executive produced by James Cameron. It was directed by 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.680 Catherine Bigelow. It starred Patrick Swayzey and Keanu Reeves and 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:01.400 a handful of wonderful people like Gary Busey, Petty Row, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:06.120 John philbn Bo, Jesse, Christopher tom Seize, a lot of people. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.120 Big movie because it was like one of those movies, Yeah, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.560 that was written at the end of the eighties ushering 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.640 in the nineties. So it's kind of one of those 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.480 things that you point to when you look at like 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.280 the end of a really interesting cinematic generation and how 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.280 it sort of turned the corner and ushered in something 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:28.200 really interestingly new in terms of how movies were made 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.120 going forward into the nineties. So it's a really interesting 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.520 opportunity for me because I was on that movie, booked 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.480 for twelve weeks and then worked nine months on that film. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.280 Oh yeah, they held me for a while. It felt 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.200 like I was on a show. It was like a series, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:41.880 but it's. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.040 A crazy long shoot. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:45.120 Yeah, Yeah, and it was great because by the time 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:46.600 I got off it, you know, then I just kind 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.600 of hit the audition circuit and I was trying to 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.520 figure out what was next. And ultimately, you guys, like 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.480 ultimately I really wanted to be a series regular on 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.480 a TV show, and like nine oh two and zero 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.600 was the show that I really wanted to be on, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.839 and so it was so great to finally kind of 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.400 land on it, even though it was like a guest 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.520 star thing and extended a couple episodes, Like, felt so 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.080 good to finally be on the show. I'm great. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:09.679 Oh I love that story. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:10.800 Yeah too. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.440 I wish you had been like a bigger character though, Yeah, 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.960 I just I mean from my memories, you were just 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.200 always we were friends, and you were always with us. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.080 Yeah, so that was around, Yes, you were. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.760 So it's wild to rewatch it and think, like your character, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:26.360 this was your character was small. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:27.560 I remembered it differently. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.040 I guess, Well, I really appreciate you saying that. You know, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.960 there was a couple of times when your father tried 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.160 to make some things work for me, which I really appreciated, because, 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.320 you know, boy, did I admire him, you know in 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.520 my heart, you know, Aaron, So I don't know if 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.160 you two were in the room, but he brought me 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.560 in for the billy character for melrose Place, and I 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.080 tested and I came into the room to like a 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.240 network thing, and I feel like you guys might have 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.080 been in that room, because it was like it felt 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.240 like thirty forty people in the room at your house, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.800 in that massive room that maybe like some of those 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:58.720 auditions were. 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.840 Held has often. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.000 The bell airhouse. I think the giant it's. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.040 Not a living room though. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.440 Oh you're right, you're right where you had to read through. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.000 Yeah, yeah, and I just yeah, I remember he really 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.200 wanted to try to make that work for me, and 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:14.480 you know, I had a deal on the table for 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.720 the for the role, and you know, I just bombed. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.920 I had it was I was so over prepared. And 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.320 so I had a new kid. I had a two 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.560 year old son, and I was, you know, a single father, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.120 and I was young and like twenty years old and 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.679 just trying to like get it all together. And all 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.760 I really wanted to do was be a series regular 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.080 on a show. It was like to be on an 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.520 Aaron Spelling thing, and you know, it's all my friends 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.720 were on the show, and this new thing was coming out, 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.120 and I remember I walked into that room just very 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.400 quickly because the listeners will appreciate this and you might 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.920 understand where I'm coming from and empathize a little bit. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.240 But Courtney Thorne Smith was in the room and she 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:49.880 was going to read opposite me, and were you know, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.760 we were going to It was like a chemistry read 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.840 in front of the network and everyone. And I had 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.280 never experienced that before. I'd never had a series regular 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.439 deal on the table. That was something that was brand new. 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.400 I always wanted it. I was chipping the way as 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.400 a journeyman actors and young actor guest starring, and point 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.200 break was out and Aaron had he had seen this 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.880 interview in Esquire magazine. It's called the New James Deans 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:15.080 and it was me, Dana Ashbrook, Jamie Walters, Jason Priestley, 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:19.720 Luke Perry. Oh my gosh, remember your father said, I 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.680 know all these guys except this guy, bo Jesse. Who 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.040 is that? Get him in here now for the billy thing. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:29.760 And I was like, wow, this is cool. He's an advocate. Basically, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.319 it felt like it was mine to lose, and ultimately, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:33.920 I think I got in my head about it and 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.880 I walked in that room, and I remember Courtney looking 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.560 at me, Courtney thorn Smith, and she looked out and 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.840 she goes because she could see I was in trouble. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.640 Yeah, and she's all been there, yeah. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.400 And then I just kind of looked at her, just 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.840 face to face, actor to actor, and I was just 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.280 like I had it also memorized and personalized and inflow, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.679 and and then I just looked at her and I 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.320 just I just dropped out. I was I couldn't do it. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.960 And I literally couldn't even do the audition, so I 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.160 had left. It's a basic thing. Yeah, I mean I 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.520 tucked and rolled. That had never happened to me before, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.520 has never happened to me after that. But it's an 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.640 important lesson that I share with a lot of a 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.520 lot of people who were emerging and up and coming. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.920 And it didn't feel good. In fact, the Fox executives 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.040 called my reps and said, what's going on with this guy? 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:22.440 You know? 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.120 And there wasn't anything going on. I was just, you know, 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.600 I needed that so badly. It felt like that I 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.240 let that get in the way of just painting moment 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:32.360 with some beautiful truth. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.560 Wait, you said you were a single dad, you had 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.400 a two year old. How old were you when you 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:50.880 had your first child? 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.680 Yeah? So I had Jesse, my oldest son, who's twenty nine. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:13:01.319 Now I love children, so you know, relate, it's beautiful. Congratulations. Yeah, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:05.760 so he was born in nineteen ninety three, so like 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:07.600 I think, it was like I had a one year 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.400 old when I was doing Mister Andy, and I remember 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.160 I brought him to set a couple of times. Actually, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.800 funny thing is there's one scene I think where after 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.720 they arrest me, the FBI comes in and they cap 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.600 by the campus or whatever. I had my co parent 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.720 at the time come in and hold Jesse, who's one, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.920 as they handcuffed be and walked me out. That was 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.440 just have to watch, you know. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.720 It was like great memories for him, I'm sure. 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.040 Yeah, crazy anyway, I could go on and on and on. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.040 Yeah, is that your only son? You only have? Do 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:39.840 you have more children? 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.480 I've got some other kids. So I've got Atticus, who's 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.640 my fifteen year old teenage son, who's great, awesome kid. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.400 He's everything that I would want a child to be, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.800 and so much more. As you know, our kids, they 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.720 surprise us each and every day. It's beautiful. And then 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:58.080 I've got a daughter who's thirteen tallula it's incredible, loves 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.800 to ride horses, and I'm so blessed, been grateful. 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:05.040 Yeah, good for you. You got a girl you're in trouble. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.520 Yeah, well mother nature. Yeah, surrendered to the truth, whatever 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:11.319 it is, whatever. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.520 Yeah. Wow. So so point break was first. Then nine 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:16.160 O two one zero. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.160 Basically I had done some stuff before Point break, but 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.120 I was just chipping away, some guest star stuff and 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.000 just you know, a couple of lines here, maybe a 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.960 small thing here. And then point Break was my big break. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.440 And then I came back and got on the audition 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.480 circuit and I sort of like, you know, I felt 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.560 like I got really set up for success because people 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.840 were talking about this film that was coming out with 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.320 Patrick Swayze with the time was the biggest movie star 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.400 in the world because Ghost was in the theaters and 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.440 if you remember, Ghost was a really meaningful film. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:51.720 Yeah, one of my favorite same so so wonderful, and 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.960 so you know, working with with Swayze in that moment, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.520 and then Keanu was basically just being thrown into the 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.840 studio system for the first time, all these cool indie 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.480 films and then you know, this was kind of his. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.200 First like like dual billing two hand or kind of 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.640 thing with Swasey and watching that dynamic and being right 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.960 in the middle on a daily basis for nine months 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.400 with those two guys and becoming friends was just magic. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.040 But I got kind of thrown into the audition circuit 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.720 and had so many wonderful opportunities to audition for all 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.760 the things that like in retrospect we could tell stories 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.960 about right, we're not good and bad, but then I 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:30.520 know two and I was one of those things. It 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.520 was like, that's a feather in my cap. I need 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.320 to be on that show. That is something that I 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.800 have to accomplish. And I think it was Diane Young, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.040 who is one of the directors. They could join the 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.000 ray cast the pilot, and I think Diane Young was 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.280 took over and she was such an advocate, you know, 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.360 she was like, Okay, I think this is the one. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.360 Bo I think this is the one, and we would 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.960 get close, but it wouldn't work out for various different reasons. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:58.200 And then this just really dark kind of character, which 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.000 I love to because if you think about the nine 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.120 and you think about ninety four, which I think season 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:07.960 four is four. You know, it was kind of cutting 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.720 edge television. There was a lot of really interesting narrative 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:15.440 being written into the show, so to have like mister Andy, 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.320 who was the campus drug dealer, getting Brian Silver hooked 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:24.680 on crystal mess still meth. Yeah, it was kind of heavy. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.040 You know, Oh, it really was. We were watching it, 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.240 We're like, what is happening? I guess this is when 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.640 the show really started to tackle some stuff. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.040 I don't even remember him getting into drugs, like until 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.160 we start watching it rewatching anything, right. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.800 I thought it was much quicker than that. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.760 Yeah, because sometimes nine on two and zero we have 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.640 seen so far rewatching it as a tendency to wrap 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.880 things up with the bow in like one or two episodes, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.680 so we appreciate that it's going and yeah, ebbs and blows, 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:53.880 but it. 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.280 Got real, real dark in that dorm room. You took 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.520 off your shoes, you were getting the business. 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.720 Yeah, yeah, No, It's interesting because for the audition I 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.440 always had like a flip thing, like I always hated 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.080 my feet, so like I was like, oh, I got 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.680 a mission, and like take my shoes off, and so 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.280 I did it, and I was just used it. I'll 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.359 just use it. You know that whole like actor thing 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.640 where you know, it's just it's a feeling I can use. 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.720 It feels off, and so it was just strange because 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.720 I wasn't aware that you could you could you could 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.919 do this, administer this stuff between the toes, and that 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.520 was effective. But I think more importantly what it did, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.360 I think for the audience was just kind of bring 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.320 the narrative in that may or may not have been 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.080 something that people were dealing with in their lives. And 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.040 so I liked the idea that you can kind of 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:38.639 push back against what feels safe in terms of written narrative, uh, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.119 primetime television. And you know, it was really great to 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.480 be part of that in that sort of nefarious way, 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.000 like someone's got to be the bad guy, someone's got 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:52.080 you know, why not me? And so I loved approaching 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.480 character work on TV where you know, you don't often 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.919 get to play these embellished characters on television because you know, 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:04.120 generally primetime television is relatively safe. It's like four quadrant, 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.760 you know, it appeals to all four quadrant demographics. So 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.400 it's really one of those things that you know, as 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.840 you mentioned, needs to be wrapped up and feel good 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.840 at the end of a show, and so it was 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.720 kind of interesting to have this this through line that 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.160 ran before my character was introduced, but then a couple 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.760 episodes of what was going on, and then there was 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:28.920 a residual effect on David Silver's narrative. And I think 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.480 Luke's character came in, dil came in. I think was 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:32.720 there to support that. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.520 I believe he was there to help him through it. 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:41.159 And that's important, that's meaningful. And I love as a 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.200 utilitarian actor, as a journeyman actor, being able to come 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.160