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Speaker 1: It's nine O G ONEG with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling.

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Speaker 2: Today on another episode of nine oh two one on one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you like that title? Oh I love it. We

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Speaker 2: have bo Jesse Christopher, who played Andy in four episodes

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Speaker 2: of nine O two one. Oh.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk to them.

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Speaker 4: Oh hi, O MG.

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Speaker 2: Hi here you are.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Wow, what a treat.

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Speaker 3: This is a blast from your past.

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Speaker 4: This is my honor.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're so sweet. Look at you.

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Speaker 3: You look great.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for saying that, Jenny, I really appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Guys are so beautiful life force energies. I'm so thrilled

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Speaker 4: and honored to be here with you both.

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Speaker 2: We're so happy to have you. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: crazy because we are in season four and we're just

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Speaker 2: watching you. Your character is like a drug pusher guy.

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Speaker 4: He's not a great guy.

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Speaker 3: Is he very the opposite of you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, You're exactly right. And the craziest thing,

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Speaker 4: just very quickly is like, you know, Brian Austin Green

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Speaker 4: was one of my best friends prior to the show,

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Speaker 4: So being able to work with Brian in these scenes

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Speaker 4: as mister Andy opposite David Silver was like such a treat.

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Speaker 2: How did you know Brian before?

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Speaker 4: So I moved to LA in nineteen eighty eight, straight

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Speaker 4: out of high school, you know, to do the acting thing.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to be on twenty one Jump Street. That

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Speaker 4: was like Fox's Big Show. So it all ties in, right,

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Speaker 4: Like I wanted to be Depp, everyone.

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Speaker 2: Wanted everyone wanted to be dep me too, right like.

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Speaker 4: He did Everyboddy's thing. So for me, right out of

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Speaker 4: high school, moved to LA and then one of my

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Speaker 4: my first friends was David.

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Speaker 2: Faustino from Brian was children.

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Speaker 4: Brian and Brian and David were very close, and so

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Speaker 4: I got sort of jumped into that crew very quickly

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Speaker 4: when I got to LA, and Brian and I just

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Speaker 4: hit it off and we were like, you know, best buds,

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Speaker 4: hanging out every day. And there's so many related stories

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Speaker 4: to this that lead to nine oh two one oh,

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Speaker 4: so many things I want to talk about, I know

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Speaker 4: no at the beginning.

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Speaker 5: So wait, Jen and I were talking about this last week.

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Speaker 5: Were we remembering there was a club called Ballistics, right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and all three of you were involved, right yeah?

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Speaker 4: So there was Rainbow remember Rainbow? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 4: So there was there was big Bow and then little Bow. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: so big Bow was bow, Jesse, little Bow was Rainbow.

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Speaker 4: So it was really like Rainbow David Faustino, Brian Austin Green,

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Speaker 4: and then like Nick Adler and a few other people

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Speaker 4: kind of related to that. Yeah, but that but I'm

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Speaker 4: sure you were there a few times. I'm sure. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure that Brian got you there.

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Speaker 3: Tried to you know, so for sure I went there. Den,

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Speaker 3: do you remember going there?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think Jenny would have gone. That would

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Speaker 4: have been like Brian would have tried to talk you

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Speaker 4: into going, Tori.

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Speaker 3: But like it was like one of those things. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't like every night.

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Speaker 5: It was like a takeover each week at somewhere else, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it was.

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Speaker 4: Like at the Roxy. I think it started the Roxy night. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but at that point, so at that point, just just

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Speaker 4: so I can pivot, because this will lead up to

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Speaker 4: the mister. Okay, so at that point, so really quickly.

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Speaker 4: So Brian Austin Green, our boy, Brian David Silver, for

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Speaker 4: those who are listening, we love still one of my closest,

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Speaker 4: hearest friends. I love him so much. I'm so proud

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Speaker 4: of him, and he's his life as beautiful. I love

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Speaker 4: him as I looked too, of you, his sisters and

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Speaker 4: you know, forever just in my heart, top of my mind.

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Speaker 4: So thank you for that. Brian had an audition for

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Speaker 4: this thing called Point Break, which was my big sort

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Speaker 3: Brian an audition for that part too.

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Speaker 4: Well, it was his audition. He said, hey, bo, you

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Speaker 4: drive me to this audition because you're a surfer. You

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Speaker 4: this audition at the end of the day, when you

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Speaker 4: drive me kind of warm me up for the thing.

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Speaker 4: He was the last audition, went in, came out, and

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Speaker 4: you know Brian, when Brian gets a little nervous, he

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Speaker 4: bites his nails. But you know Brian, he does that

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Speaker 4: whole Remember young Brian biting his.

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Speaker 5: Nail, so he still he has no nails to the same.

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Speaker 4: You know, Brian came out. I could tell he kind

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Speaker 4: of maybe bombed the audition. I stuff in my head

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Speaker 4: and I remember the casting director came out and said

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Speaker 4: are you next? And I said no, and he goes,

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Speaker 4: you're next. So I had Brian's keys in my pocket.

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Speaker 4: I just walked by Brian and probably was so pissed,

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Speaker 4: you know, he was sting. I walked right by him,

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Speaker 4: went into the room. Rick Bagana, who was a casting director,

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Speaker 4: hand me some sides and said, let's give it a shot.

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Speaker 4: I said, I think I got it underneath the size,

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Speaker 4: and he goes, oh, you got it. Okay, let's see

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Speaker 4: what you got. So I stood on a chair, did

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Speaker 4: do that again. So I did it, and she in

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Speaker 4: the room said you got the job. I walked out

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Speaker 4: of the audition. Brian's like, come on, dude, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: You got my hijack my audition? So I booked Point Break.

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Speaker 4: There's more to that story, but it's not about Point Break.

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Speaker 4: It's about nine o two and oh. So I come

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Speaker 4: out and Brian's super angry and mad, and I said, hey, man,

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Speaker 4: you just did this pilot. You're fine, because he had

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Speaker 4: just shot the pilot for nine oh two one oh

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Speaker 4: and I think you guys sat for a little bit

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Speaker 4: into the season. I want to say, was a little

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Speaker 4: the season or the season one getting picked up.

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Speaker 3: You remember more than I were.

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Speaker 4: Like why, I'll tell you why, because I wanted so

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Speaker 4: bad to be on the show. So anyway, I did

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Speaker 4: Point Break and Brian was a little you know, kind

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Speaker 4: wasn't cool what you did. So Brian was holding a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a grudge, and I said, Brian, you're fine.

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Speaker 4: He got this pilot, it's probably gonna get picked up.

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Speaker 4: You're going to be good. I went away did Point Break.

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Speaker 4: They started realistics that club. Right after that the season

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Speaker 4: season one got picked up and you guys went into

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Speaker 4: production on episode two. I was waiting for Point Break

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Speaker 4: to come out. I had originally auditioned for the role

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Speaker 4: hijacked Brian's audition for Point Break, and I went and

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Speaker 4: did Point Break for almost a year. This movie that

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Speaker 4: kind of launched my acting career. I had auditioned for

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Speaker 4: and then I was hurting for money, and so I

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Speaker 4: did background work on the pilot and I remember day

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Speaker 4: the school and got out, and like Steve, it was

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Speaker 4: like the establishing Steve character, I think, and I think

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Speaker 4: I remember seeing Jenny and Iron day one. I just

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Speaker 4: was like, I really want to be in the show,

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Speaker 4: you know. And then I went and did Point Break,

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Speaker 4: for nine oh two one zero for getting really close

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Speaker 4: to find mister Andy in season four Full Circle. But

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Speaker 4: I got to work with my buddy Brian, you know,

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Speaker 4: a lovely tree.

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Speaker 2: Was he still pissed at you at that point? He

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Speaker 2: holds grudges? Are you sure?

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Speaker 4: No, Brian's super, Let's call.

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Speaker 3: Him right now.

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Speaker 5: You think he still holds a grudge. No, wait, I

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Speaker 5: want to hear about Point Break though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Hello, for those of you who don't know you

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Speaker 2: were in Point Brank, tell us about your character. It's

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Speaker 2: a very important character.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you saying that.

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Speaker 2: Love that movie.

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Speaker 4: So I was Gromet slash LBJ, I was the ex president.

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Speaker 4: I was Lyndon Johnson was my ex president. I was

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Speaker 4: Patrick Swayzey's younger brother. I was part of this crew

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Speaker 4: that robbed banks to finance our Endless Summer. This film

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Speaker 4: was executive produced by James Cameron. It was directed by

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Speaker 4: Catherine Bigelow. It starred Patrick Swayzey and Keanu Reeves and

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Speaker 4: a handful of wonderful people like Gary Busey, Petty Row,

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Speaker 4: Big movie because it was like one of those movies, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was written at the end of the eighties ushering

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Speaker 4: going forward into the nineties. So it's a really interesting

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Speaker 4: opportunity for me because I was on that movie, booked

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Speaker 4: for twelve weeks and then worked nine months on that film.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they held me for a while. It felt

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Speaker 2: A crazy long shoot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, and it was great because by the time

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Speaker 4: I got off it, you know, then I just kind

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Speaker 4: figure out what was next. And ultimately, you guys, like

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Speaker 4: ultimately I really wanted to be a series regular on

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Speaker 4: a TV show, and like nine oh two and zero

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Speaker 4: and so it was so great to finally kind of

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Speaker 4: good to finally be on the show. I'm great.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love that story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah too.

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Speaker 5: I wish you had been like a bigger character though, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just I mean from my memories, you were just

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Speaker 5: always we were friends, and you were always with us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was around, Yes, you were.

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Speaker 5: So it's wild to rewatch it and think, like your character,

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Speaker 5: this was your character was small.

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Speaker 3: I remembered it differently.

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Speaker 4: I guess, Well, I really appreciate you saying that. You know,

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Speaker 4: there was a couple of times when your father tried

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Speaker 4: to make some things work for me, which I really appreciated, because,

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Speaker 4: you know, boy, did I admire him, you know in

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Speaker 4: my heart, you know, Aaron, So I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you two were in the room, but he brought me

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Speaker 4: in for the billy character for melrose Place, and I

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Speaker 4: in that massive room that maybe like some of those

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Speaker 4: and you know, I wanted to do more. Although I

438
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Speaker 4: always had this wonderful approach for me that like when

439
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Speaker 4: I'm on television and when I'm the guest star, that

440
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Speaker 4: I really loved the idea that I wanted to be

441
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Speaker 4: as much of that guy, even in between shots as possible,

442
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Speaker 4: because it really helped me create the conflict. And especially

443
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Speaker 4: when I was working with Brian, because Brian's my friend,

444
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Speaker 4: I wanted him to have to deal with me. So

445
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Speaker 4: I created a little bit of distance between he and I,

446
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 4: and I kind of, you know, antagonized a little bit energetically,

447
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 4: just energetically, not in an unhealthy way to create this tension.

448
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 4: So when we showed up on camera, it felt like

449
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 4: we were actually feeding off something fun and interesting for

450
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Speaker 4: he and I because we were friends. So I generally

451
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 4: stated myself and get inside what I call the circle

452
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Speaker 4: of my creative consciousness.

453
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Speaker 2: Okay, so wait, you're talking about like your how your

454
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Speaker 2: process runs as an actor, and is this something that

455
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Speaker 2: you also teach your students now because you are an

456
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Speaker 2: acting teacher.

457
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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I appreciate that segue. Yeah, No, for sure,

458
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 4: I love I'm just interested. I appreciate it one hundred percent. Yeah. No,

459
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Speaker 4: for me, So I always came into the business and

460
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 4: got really lucky meeting some really wonderful craftsmen. I met

461
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Speaker 4: Stella Adler herself like she was a family funding and

462
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Speaker 4: she was the first person that I met in the

463
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Speaker 4: creative arts space in the form of acting and studied

464
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Speaker 4: with her. And then I met Shelley Winters, who then

465
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Speaker 4: kind of mentored you. Yes, she there's great stories. I

466
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Speaker 4: know we don't have a lot of times all summrise,

467
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Speaker 4: but basically I've defected Stella went to Shelley. Shelley was

468
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Speaker 4: my personal mentor at the Actor's studio until she passed away.

469
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And so I've always been really in love

470
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Speaker 4: with the art form and I love the idea of

471
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 4: the cathartic, creative therapeutic sort of release, of being able

472
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Speaker 4: to sit at the edge of an opportunity, lean into

473
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Speaker 4: the way that feels, catch that beautiful life wind and

474
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Speaker 4: fly while the cameras record beautiful truth.

475
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Speaker 2: That's nice.

476
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Speaker 4: So I'm nott hang in the air for a half second,

477
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Speaker 4: because that's important. You know, we are yet why we

478
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Speaker 4: want to be an actor and sort of you know,

479
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Speaker 4: I always returned to the heart wants what the heart wants,

480
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 4: and that's a great place to sit and to begin

481
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Speaker 4: to express yourself in the deepest meaningful way. So I've

482
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: always been I've always tried to approach all the work,

483
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Speaker 4: even when I was a young person in this business,

484
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Speaker 4: from the heart's core, and maybe to my advantage and

485
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 4: often probably to my disadvantage, because maybe it wasn't what

486
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 4: you know people needed, They needed maybe more of just

487
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: to just jump in and just follow the pattern of

488
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Speaker 4: the writing and let the camera record whatever it records.

489
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Speaker 4: I pushed back and always wanted to find something deeper

490
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Speaker 4: and more interesting, and so the mister Andy character was

491
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Speaker 4: that opportunity for me. Coming back to that, but certainly

492
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Speaker 4: it's the way I look at coaching actors to their

493
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Speaker 4: true potential today, right.

494
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Speaker 2: Because you have the bo Jesse Christopher acting studio that's

495
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Speaker 2: still that's been up since twenty eighteen. I'm reading, and

496
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Speaker 2: that's so awesome that you're you love what you do

497
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Speaker 2: and you're teaching other people to How old are the

498
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Speaker 2: people that you normally work.

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Speaker 4: With, so generally twenty somethings, thirty somethings, but I coach

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Speaker 4: all ages. So like in my weekly groups, I probably

501
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 4: have people in their twenties to their sixties, but primarily

502
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 4: twenties to thirties and that kind of target demo, and

503
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 4: then I started this thing called Truth Be Told Acting

504
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 4: Collective in twenty twelve because I got sort of reinvigorated

505
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: with the craft and had this Prior to that, I

506
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 4: had this sort of like I maxed out and I

507
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: just sort of lost a sense of self and didn't

508
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 4: have an art form and kind of removed myself from

509
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 4: the business and you know, raised my first kid and

510
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 4: did other things to make money. And then I had

511
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Speaker 4: this return to craft in this this reawakening, this juvenation,

512
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 4: and so this collective helped me kind of pulled all

513
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Speaker 4: together to find myself at work. And then in twenty

514
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 4: eighteen I kind of honed that in and created the

515
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: studio and been really really grateful and humbled by the

516
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 4: turnout that shows up once a week. I had this

517
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Speaker 4: sort of critical mass thing happening once a week. And

518
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Speaker 4: then I do a lot of on set coaching in

519
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Speaker 4: private one on ones, and I'll fly places to coach

520
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 4: different people, and I'll do zooms and I'll do Google meets,

521
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 4: and I'll do in my studio and it's great because

522
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 4: I don't have that desperation that I think I would

523
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: have had if I wasn't in the practice every day

524
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: as an actor, and so when I'm auditioning for stuff,

525
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 4: because I'm currently on the circuit, chipping away at it,

526
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Speaker 4: doing the thing. You know, the.

527
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Speaker 5: Tapes we were just talking about that we just miss.

528
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Speaker 5: I mean, while it's nice the pressure is off of you,

529
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Speaker 5: we miss being in the room and getting that like

530
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Speaker 5: response totally.

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Speaker 2: I don't miss it, Jenny, No, Yeah, I get it.

532
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Speaker 4: I get it. There's there's two. There's two. There's two

533
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Speaker 4: thoughts there, you know. So I love the convenience of

534
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 4: being able to kind of, you know, create my own

535
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 4: version of what this looks and feels like for a

536
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Speaker 4: team of creators who want a energy match.

537
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Speaker 2: Design, collaborate.

538
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Speaker 4: Yeah. But also I love and I love the convenience

539
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: of being able to do it and then not worrying

540
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 4: about it. If I want to adjust, I can. But

541
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Speaker 4: I do love Torri going into the room and managing

542
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 4: the anxiety, managing the performance adrenaline, seeing other people that

543
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 4: may or may not be right for it, getting out

544
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 4: of my head, yeah, my body, hitting a mark, connecting

545
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 4: with a human being, getting some feedback. Yeah, laying that

546
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 4: thing down one or two takes and then getting od there.

547
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: So there's you know, I do I do miss it.

548
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 4: I actually do miss it.

549
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Speaker 3: There are any of your kids in the business, they're not.

550
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Speaker 4: They're not. I mean, if they, if they decide they

551
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: want to be, I certainly encourage it. I think I

552
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 4: tried with my oldest guy, and he's in music, so

553
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 4: he's in music. Yeah, but my younger kids couldn't care less,

554
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 4: they couldn't be bothered whatever, you know.

555
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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe later.

556
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

557
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Speaker 5: You have the most amazing and vivid memory and way

558
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 5: of telling stories, like I could listen to you all day.

559
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Speaker 4: My gosh, I really appreciate that.

560
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: You Your memory is unbelievable.

561
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks, Thanks.

562
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Speaker 2: It's like great.

563
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Speaker 5: I want to ask you so many questions about our

564
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 5: lives that you'll probably have answers to that we don't remember.

565
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I can tell you stories about you know,

566
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Speaker 4: Jason and Luke. I could give you some great stories.

567
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: I tell story.

568
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: Okay, So the last time I saw Luke, my boy

569
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: Jesse was too and we were and Luke was a

570
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: good friend. Luke would come over to the house and

571
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Speaker 4: he would visit. He'd drop in because Jason lived up

572
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Speaker 4: the street in Beechwood Canyon, so he would come by

573
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 4: and see Jason before he would go to see Jace,

574
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: drop by and see me. And I lived with Alexis Arccat,

575
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: who's no longer with us also, and Alexis and I

576
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 4: were best friends, and we rented this like really cool

577
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: Italian villain Beachwood Canyon. It was very artsy, fartsy and bohemian.

578
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 4: And I was a single dad and had a two

579
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Speaker 4: year old kid, Jesse, and I remember I was trying

580
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Speaker 4: to get Jesse down to go to sleep and Luke

581
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Speaker 4: pop by, and I remember it was dark in the

582
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Speaker 4: room and he opened.

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Speaker 6: Up the door and he goes, hey, boh, it's Luke

584
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Speaker 6: Luke Berry. He goes, hey, man, I don't want to interrupt.

585
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 6: I just want to tell you I love you, and

586
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Speaker 6: then he kind of closed the door.

587
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Speaker 1: Last time I saw him, right, yeah.

588
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: I love you. It is what he said to me,

589
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 4: really really beautiful. Thank you Luke Jason one time. It's

590
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: funny thing. I think the last time I saw I

591
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 4: saw Jason was down the street at the market and

592
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: I was, you know, a young young dad around the

593
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Speaker 4: same time, and I didn't have much money. I was

594
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: chipping away as in between acting jobs. And I was

595
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 4: just trying to scrape together enough to feed Jesse and

596
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Speaker 4: I for the day. And I was at I think

597
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: it was Gelson's on the corner Canyon Drive where we

598
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: all lived, and I ran into Jason that is, you know,

599
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: one of his awesome convertible stingrays or what I use

600
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: race cars, right, I forget what he has, like cherry

601
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: red something I don't know, and he goes anyway, Bo, Jesse,

602
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: what's up man? How are you? What's going on? Bought

603
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Speaker 4: me a bag of groceries, Get in my car. I'll

604
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: take you back to the house. Brought me in Jesse

605
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: back to the house, loaded up my fridge, hung out

606
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: with us, and then drove up the hill to his house.

607
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: That's just the kind of guy Jason was, right, Brothers. Yeah,

608
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: so that was the last time I saw Jay and

609
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: love and it was so long ago.

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Speaker 2: So long ago. I remember that house up in Beechwood.

611
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shares, you know, these are these are good people.

612
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: This is family. This this show, you know, family. It's

613
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: a really beautiful thing to be part of it. And

614
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: I'm really honored.

615
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be sure to let people know

616
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: how to get a hold of you. If they need

617
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: you because we might be contacting you. I love for

618
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: acting advice.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, thank you both first for having you on

620
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Speaker 4: the show. So yeah, anybody can find me at Jesse

621
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Speaker 4: Christopher dot com. You know, I'm on I'm on the Gram,

622
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: I'm on ig so Instagram.

623
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 2: What's your gram?

624
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: Oh, Jesse Christopher.

625
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: Oh, Jesse Christopher. Nice.

626
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so please follow, like shared, do the whole thing.

627
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: But I'm here for you, stay honest, discipline and inspire.

628
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: Heart hugs to you and everyone listening.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're amazing.

630
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, it's such It's so interesting when you're young,

631
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 5: you have such a different perspective of someone and then

632
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 5: you get to reconnect with them later in life, and

633
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 5: it's just I don't know when you were young, I

634
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 5: was younger and you were just like always Brian's friend

635
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: and you were like the young hot guy and I

636
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 5: was intimidated probably, And now just listening to you speak,

637
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my gosh, everything it's just so beautiful.

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Speaker 3: So so thank you.

639
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: Thank you for the fall of and also just thank

640
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Speaker 4: you for what was said. Can we please stay in touch?

641
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: Yes?

642
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: Please?

643
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna d M you right now too. I'm

644
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: gonna slide. Wait, what is it?

645
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Speaker 2: Slip slide?

646
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: No, yes, Christopher, slip and slag. Yeah, it's all good.

647
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us. It's so good to

648
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: see you.

649
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: Thank you, I love you.

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Speaker 4: Bye bye you guys,