Speaker 1: Hey, it's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. This is
Speaker 1: the Second Date podcast. Thank you so much for finding us.
Speaker 2: On a weekend. Yeah, on a weekend, and this.
Speaker 3: Is just a little treat. Okay.
Speaker 1: When it says classic, these are ones that we have
Speaker 1: dug up from the vault because we have done thousands
Speaker 1: of second games, so.
Speaker 4: You maybe probably have not even heard these ones.
Speaker 5: Black people are always think they're new, and we're like,
Speaker 5: that's a classic.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot of you guys have bing these, but not
Speaker 2: everyone is as.
Speaker 1: Committed as you yet totally, it's definitely split fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1: I mean, no matter what, we just hope that you
Speaker 1: enjoy this. We've got two back to back to just
Speaker 1: make sure that you get all your tasks, all your
Speaker 1: chores done with one pod.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 5: You can't get your stuff done without us. Yes, you
Speaker 5: know it. That's right.
Speaker 3: So it all starts right now.
Speaker 5: I will say there's not much that really rattles Brook
Speaker 5: anymore because four hundred years of radio experience, she's seen
Speaker 5: and done pretty much everything.
Speaker 4: Oh say it again, Jah, she was ir when Station
Speaker 4: one start.
Speaker 5: Well that's what she thought till today when she was
Speaker 5: put in the most dramatic, uncomfortable situation of her entire
Speaker 5: radio career.
Speaker 3: You are even exaggerating.
Speaker 5: All because our listener said, Brook, please, you need to
Speaker 5: talk to this person for me.
Speaker 3: But I don't have boundaries, so I didn't say no.
Speaker 5: And I probably should have. Did Brook handle it with
Speaker 5: poison class or did she crumble under the immense pressure.
Speaker 5: You're gonna find out when we do your second date
Speaker 5: update right after this second date update. We've heard of
Speaker 5: people getting stood up at the start of the date. Yeah,
Speaker 5: just never showing.
Speaker 3: It's not cool, feels so bad.
Speaker 5: I've been stood up at the end of a date
Speaker 5: where night's over, we say goodbye, and then they just
Speaker 5: leave that. Oh you're standing at the door, so rude.
Speaker 3: That's the events.
Speaker 5: At least linger for a second before you run away.
Speaker 5: But it's a whole different thing to get stood up
Speaker 5: while you're still in the middle of a date.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people go into the bathroom
Speaker 3: and then yeah, but.
Speaker 5: This is different. This isn't like an excuse yourself to
Speaker 5: the bathroom mid dinner, then slip out the back situation.
Speaker 5: This one's more personal. Apparently that's what happened to one
Speaker 5: of our listeners Dana recently, so let's talk to her. Dana,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry to hear this happen to you. How you
Speaker 5: doing I'm.
Speaker 7: Not doing well. I'm a little piss off right now.
Speaker 5: To be honest, it's understandable.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even really get how whatever you're
Speaker 1: describing happened.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking one of those on me at the second bar.
Speaker 2: Let's drive separate see it ever, to learn more.
Speaker 5: About what happened on this date, Dana tell us the situation.
Speaker 7: So I got stood up on a vacation dates.
Speaker 3: A vacation date, like when you met somebody at a resort, you.
Speaker 7: Mean, not particularly. I had met this guy, Sean on
Speaker 7: one of the apps. I don't know if it was
Speaker 7: travel mode or you know, his search options were everywhere,
Speaker 7: but we connected. Okay, he's super cute, he's athletic, all of.
Speaker 4: Us on the app.
Speaker 7: Just so you know, well, I had a high hope. Okay,
Speaker 7: good and honestly, like we really got along. We were
Speaker 7: talking a lot, We're even talking on the phone. And
Speaker 7: after a couple of weeks he he wanted to fly
Speaker 7: me to LA which is where he.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, is that like a green flag for you
Speaker 1: or are you worried about that?
Speaker 7: Have you?
Speaker 3: Have you done it before?
Speaker 7: I haven't. At first, I was a little scared, but
Speaker 7: it was also kind of thrilling to me to be
Speaker 7: a close like kind of felt romantic.
Speaker 2: I've heard both like amazing stories and horror and.
Speaker 5: It's a red flag that his entire family is waiting
Speaker 5: at the air I'm just assuming that's how it went.
Speaker 5: I don't know, though, Yeah, did you go?
Speaker 3: Did you get on the plane?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I took the invitation, but obviously I was feeling nervous, like,
Speaker 7: how was I going to go about this? You know,
Speaker 7: I it I didn't know him. I wasn't going to
Speaker 7: stay at his house as.
Speaker 4: To get you a hotel or did you offer for
Speaker 4: you to stay in his place? There's two big differences here.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No, I mean I set the boundary pretty quickly, and
Speaker 7: he offered to get me a hotel room.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear them. You see him?
Speaker 7: So it all turned out really well?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: No, I mean like when I finally met him, he
Speaker 7: looked like his photos. We hung out all day long.
Speaker 7: He showed me around the city.
Speaker 3: That's so cute.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we had a nice dinner. We went dancing. I
Speaker 7: felt like it was a really good date. We got
Speaker 7: along really well. He was really easy to talk to.
Speaker 5: Like, Okay, well, I don't understand then, because at the
Speaker 5: start you said you're really pissed, So how does that
Speaker 5: emotion come into play?
Speaker 7: Well, because the next day, after this great date, we
Speaker 7: had plans to go to this really nice lunch place.
Speaker 7: It's really hard to get into, and I was really
Speaker 7: excited about it. And that morning I was hanging out,
Speaker 7: I went on to the pool and I texted him.
Speaker 7: You know, I was just trying to be like, let's
Speaker 7: feed up early. That's hard to get into. You know,
Speaker 7: I don't live here, so I don't know how long
Speaker 7: it's going to take to get anywhere. And he didn't
Speaker 7: respond at all.
Speaker 9: No no response, Oh man, are you like I would
Speaker 9: be kind of like, oh, something must have happened, you
Speaker 9: know what I mean, Like, you wouldn't assume that somebody
Speaker 9: would fly you all the way out there and then just.
Speaker 5: Not did she right? Yeah? Did you ask?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: So I texted him again, there's still no response. I
Speaker 7: ended up getting an uber and going to the restaurant.
Speaker 7: He didn't show.
Speaker 3: Up, Oh my gosh, And.
Speaker 7: I text him again, like where is he and asking
Speaker 7: him straight up if he's pitching me, and did he
Speaker 7: ever respond? He responded later that evening and he said,
Speaker 7: I'm sorry I've been unresponsive. I've had some devastating news.
Speaker 1: Oh god, did he share? I mean god, I mean
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good excuse.
Speaker 7: He did not share.
Speaker 5: That's too vague.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like my favorite sports team loses, I'm devastating.
Speaker 3: You assume really bad, like someone in the family died,
Speaker 3: or like he got fired or something.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you immediately believe him. As soon as he
Speaker 5: says devastating news, he gets a free passage.
Speaker 2: Are you the word devastating?
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like vocabulary.
Speaker 3: You don't give him the benefit of the doubt in
Speaker 3: that moment.
Speaker 5: Never never give them the benefit of the doubt. We
Speaker 5: will take advantage every time.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: I at least would say, well, I hope no one
Speaker 5: passed away or whatever you're going through, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: I'm here for you, and then he should say something next.
Speaker 5: Okay, So, yeah, what happened. Where did the conversation go
Speaker 5: from there?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 7: I didn't hear from him after that, and I just
Speaker 7: decided to fly. I probably out the next day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't hear from him, and I'm really wondering, like,
Speaker 7: what in the world happened?
Speaker 3: And if you still haven't heard from him.
Speaker 7: No, And it's really confusing. And this is why I'm pissed.
Speaker 7: It's because we had such a great date that it
Speaker 7: makes no sense that he would just, you know, say
Speaker 7: there's devastating news, not share with me what it is.
Speaker 7: And then he stood me up. Yeah, how oh, this
Speaker 7: has been two and a half weeks.
Speaker 5: Time.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you flew into a new city, he
Speaker 1: met you at the hotel.
Speaker 3: Did you ever see his house?
Speaker 7: No? I didn't, but I didn't want to see a house.
Speaker 3: I just wondering if maybe there's like a second family.
Speaker 1: Or a family he's married, or you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I mean, there's so much you don't know
Speaker 1: about this guy.
Speaker 4: I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 7: I did my preliminary Google search of this person. I
Speaker 7: didn't find anything about a second family, but you know
Speaker 7: that doesn't mean that doesn't exist.
Speaker 5: Did you check the local papers about any devastating news
Speaker 5: that could have been.
Speaker 4: Devastation column?
Speaker 3: I love that column.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you checked the news.
Speaker 5: Why don't you google some devastating information in the Los
Speaker 5: Angeles area and when we come back. I don't think
Speaker 5: a whole lot of bad stuff happens there. But when
Speaker 5: we come back, we'll try and get you your second
Speaker 5: date update with with the guy who stood you up
Speaker 5: in the middle of your vacation date right after this
Speaker 5: hold on second date update when a person you're on
Speaker 5: a date with doesn't contact you for a few days
Speaker 5: and then finally replies with sorry, I just received some
Speaker 5: devastating news but doesn't elaborate. Should that be a red flag?
Speaker 5: The ladies in the room surprisingly said no, I think
Speaker 5: you need to hear the person believe him. They said,
Speaker 5: men don't lie about devastating news.
Speaker 3: Benefit of a doubt, Jeff, that was my exact words.
Speaker 5: Tomato, tomato.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Lexus gives him credit just for using a big word
Speaker 5: with lots of letters.
Speaker 2: You can't lie if you're saying devastating.
Speaker 4: So what is it sending him flowers and flying him
Speaker 4: to her?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 4: I feel so mad?
Speaker 5: That's so kind. Bottom line is Dana was left hanging
Speaker 5: in the middle of a vacation dating. The guy flew
Speaker 5: her ound to La and now he hasn't even responded
Speaker 5: to her for two weeks after he just ditched her.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's wild. I think that he's got
Speaker 3: a wife and kids.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, it's not just devastating. You would have elaborated.
Speaker 1: Days later, he's saying, She's like all the devastating news,
Speaker 1: the kids are still.
Speaker 3: In this house.
Speaker 5: That would be tragic. So understandably, Dana wants answers here.
Speaker 5: We're gonna call him. His name is Sean, right, Dana, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: I just want to make sure we have that.
Speaker 3: And how mad are you are you? Because you said
Speaker 3: you were. I'm just wondering at what point you're gonna
Speaker 3: yell at him?
Speaker 7: I mean, if we can get him on the phone
Speaker 7: and I can talk to him like my time is valuable.
Speaker 7: I came to a different city to see him, like,
Speaker 7: I him a paper of your wife.
Speaker 4: Are gone because of him?
Speaker 3: You got a good story. Yeah, you do it for
Speaker 3: the plot.
Speaker 2: Probably nice into stories you were there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's not like we got nothing out of
Speaker 5: this trip, but hopefully we can at least get some
Speaker 5: resolution for you, assuming he answers the phone. So I'm
Speaker 5: gonna dial it right now.
Speaker 7: Good luck.
Speaker 3: All right, they never wished us luck?
Speaker 5: Sweet here we go.
Speaker 10: Hello, Hi?
Speaker 5: Is this sorry? We're looking for Sean? Sean there, No,
Speaker 5: he's out for a run.
Speaker 7: Can I take a message for you?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well well hold on?
Speaker 1: Well okay, I think we just need to ask who's this?
Speaker 5: Yeah, who's this?
Speaker 7: Who is this?
Speaker 6: Or there's several of you.
Speaker 5: Well, we're a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey
Speaker 5: in the Morning.
Speaker 3: Is this Shawn's number?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Did he sign up for something?
Speaker 4: Are you a family member of Seawan's?
Speaker 6: I mean you could say that.
Speaker 5: What do you mean like you're a sister?
Speaker 7: I'm his wife? Oh?
Speaker 5: Okay, right, so Hi, sorry to bother you. You were
Speaker 5: radio show. Do you mind if we put you on
Speaker 5: hold for a second?
Speaker 7: I mean, okay, I don't have all the Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sorry, we'll be right back to you. Just hold on.
Speaker 5: Can we put her on hold? Yeah? Okay, we got her.
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 5: All right, So.
Speaker 2: That to be the truth.
Speaker 1: I was like, worst case scenario.
Speaker 4: I thought you were wrong.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: We're kind of called it here. Not it's not an
Speaker 5: entire second family, or maybe it is.
Speaker 3: What my wife is a second is the family?
Speaker 5: There might be kids there too, but we have at
Speaker 5: least got a wife, Dana. Dana, how are you feeling?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 7: How am I supposed to respond to this?
Speaker 3: Do you want to tell her?
Speaker 5: Or are you still in on Sean? We don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the first time we will not be
Speaker 1: offering a second date at the end.
Speaker 4: We can't do this.
Speaker 7: No, this is awful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 7: First, I have been cheated on before, and the fact
Speaker 7: that knowing now that I might be a participant in
Speaker 7: somebody else's affair infuriated.
Speaker 3: Do you want to tell her? Do you want to
Speaker 3: talk to her? And can we do that? Because I
Speaker 3: don't want to tell her.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, it's not surprising because unfortunately a lot of guys
Speaker 5: do end up doing stuff like this. But how do
Speaker 5: we want to handle this? Because there's really, in my mind,
Speaker 5: there's three options for us to go here. Number one,
Speaker 5: we just hang up, We leave it alone, hands off.
Speaker 3: Of it, the coward's way out.
Speaker 5: I'm not opposed to it. Number two wouldn't be Number two,
Speaker 5: have Dana speak to the wife and fill her in
Speaker 5: on the truth about what's happening.
Speaker 3: She's to do it calmly. If she's gonna do that, it's.
Speaker 5: Not gonna happen, or we go option three, my favorite,
Speaker 5: have Brooke speak to the white for Dana. Brook has
Speaker 5: been dying to let her rage out onto some sort
Speaker 5: of you.
Speaker 2: Do your kids cheating? Don't you want to help?
Speaker 4: And when we started the call, you literally asked, when
Speaker 4: you're gonna yell at him? You can do it?
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 7: I think that if Brook can set this up, I
Speaker 7: think speak to her. But I don't want to. I
Speaker 7: just don't want to come in and my god.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's a good choice, Dana. I feel like this
Speaker 5: is gonna be really emotional for you. So it's good
Speaker 5: to have Brooke, who's notoriously even keel.
Speaker 3: The opposite of even you can the marriage.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: We are not breaking up this marriage. That man is
Speaker 3: the one that broke up his mag Absolutely fine, I'll
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 4: Okay, she's gonna really, You're gonna really do it.
Speaker 3: I mean, somebody has to. This woman has to.
Speaker 7: Know Brook, tell her the truth.
Speaker 4: Come on, I got your back here.
Speaker 5: Excuse devastating news. Let's make it a real.
Speaker 2: Thing word for me forever.
Speaker 5: Now, all right, let's punch the wife back up. Okay, Hello, Hello, Hey,
Speaker 5: sorry about that. So we are back and actually my
Speaker 5: co host Brooke would like to speak with you.
Speaker 3: I didn't get your name. What's your name, Niki? Hi, Nikki.
Speaker 4: It's a pretty name.
Speaker 3: So you're probably wondering why we're calling.
Speaker 1: How we got your husband's phone number. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you not great news on that front. Okay, because the
Speaker 1: reason we have your husband Sean's phone number is because
Speaker 1: we do a segment on our show called the Second Date.
Speaker 5: Update, typically very fun segment.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So typically people go on a first date and when
Speaker 1: they aren't getting a call back from that person, and
Speaker 1: then we call and find out why, Like what did
Speaker 1: they do wrong on the date?
Speaker 5: They were a funny hat?
Speaker 3: Does that make sense, Snicky?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, So that's.
Speaker 1: Why we got your husband's phone number. We didn't realize
Speaker 1: he was a husband. Your husband apparently flew another woman
Speaker 1: into Los Angeles to take her out for a romantic time.
Speaker 7: Yeah okay, I mean we trade off weeks, we do
Speaker 7: stuff with other people. I don't really that's any of
Speaker 7: your business.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, wait wait wait yeah, that's fine. Are
Speaker 3: you in an open relationship?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Relieved?
Speaker 5: I am relieve.
Speaker 7: I thought Nikky, I was giving you the whole world
Speaker 7: and you were going to add your marriage.
Speaker 1: But it turns out when you're saying you have an
Speaker 1: agreement with your husband to like just date other people?
Speaker 5: Yeah, could you pass some of the is that all?
Speaker 5: Could you write down some of how that how that
Speaker 5: works to open your marriage because Brook might want to know.
Speaker 7: I am not talking you through this.
Speaker 6: Can I go?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 1: Can you hear my heart beat over the radio?
Speaker 6: Very work out?
Speaker 3: I was so nervous.
Speaker 5: You know, Nikki, thank you so much. We don't want
Speaker 5: to steal any more of your time and we really
Speaker 5: appreciate you sharing with us. Have a great day, Okay, great,
Speaker 5: tell your husband Sean, what's up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This is one of those the more you know, the
Speaker 3: more you know, and it's like.
Speaker 4: You don't want to know, but when you know, you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: thank goodness.
Speaker 5: Okay, so Nicky's gone. Hey, Dana, good news. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: didn't break up a marriage.
Speaker 4: You're one of many women.
Speaker 7: My jaw.
Speaker 4: I forgot. She was so great.
Speaker 1: I'm taking it that Sean didn't let you know that
Speaker 1: he was in an open, open relationship.
Speaker 7: Okay, I think really important information you probably could seems
Speaker 7: like pre date info.
Speaker 2: I know it was devastating. He had his weekends mixed up. Yes,
Speaker 2: it was his turn.
Speaker 5: I'm sure it wasn't part of the rules that he
Speaker 5: had to disclose to other people's in a marriage. Anyway,
Speaker 5: we are running short on time here, Dana, so I
Speaker 5: would love to ask, would you go on another date
Speaker 5: with Sean when he comes back from his run with
Speaker 5: Brock or something. We'll pay for that.
Speaker 3: How about a girls night me for some cocktails?
Speaker 5: Okay, I was obligated just to offer. That's just what
Speaker 5: I have to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I've never been so relieved at polyamory.
Speaker 8: And freaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: Textboard is blowing up right now at seventy five nine
Speaker 5: two with people saying his wife answered exclamation question mark
Speaker 5: and she's totally cool with it.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I who did not I have that on
Speaker 1: my bingo card nor these.
Speaker 4: I think it was more dramatic for Brook than anyone
Speaker 4: on the phone.
Speaker 1: I think the person dating the husband is thinking, Okay.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 5: These are the types of wholesome good news stories that
Speaker 5: you just don't hear about in the news anymore. That's right,
Speaker 5: jeff I hope kt LA runs a story tonight local
Speaker 5: married man dates two dozen women, wife is thrilled Disney
Speaker 5: movie Oh Man, happy ending today sort of. Hopefully we
Speaker 5: can help make your love life less devastating. If you
Speaker 5: email the show, we can call that person who's not
Speaker 5: calling you back. And by the way, while you're at it,
Speaker 5: go check out all of our second dates wherever you
Speaker 5: get your podcasts. Yeah at Brook and Jeffrey Brook.
Speaker 8: And Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 5: Certain topics in the dating world are just considered taboo.
Speaker 5: Just don't bring them up because you're playing with fire,
Speaker 5: like religion, xes you're fetish for hot tubbing clowns. Don't
Speaker 5: don't mention it, even though chances are she'd probably be
Speaker 5: into it. Save her not to talk about it. I'm
Speaker 5: sure it would go great, but just don't do it.
Speaker 5: And I've never seen this particular topic mentioned on any
Speaker 5: do not mention list, but maybe we should add it
Speaker 5: because one of our listeners spent the entire night talking
Speaker 5: about it with his date and our reaction was yikes,
Speaker 5: no surprise, he needs our help. In your second date update,
Speaker 5: right after this second date updated, imagine the one person
Speaker 5: you had a huge crush on years ago where you
Speaker 5: were always into them, but nothing happened. Fast forward, and
Speaker 5: what if that old crush from your past suddenly walked
Speaker 5: back into your life.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so exciting.
Speaker 3: You have your chance get you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It's great second chances.
Speaker 3: Okay, you blew your shot the first time, and now
Speaker 3: you get a do over.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the question. Do you take Jose's approach and say, well,
Speaker 5: past is past and just approach it as friends, or
Speaker 5: do you take a chance.
Speaker 3: I've never not taken it.
Speaker 2: Tell you your.
Speaker 5: Current spouse and all three of your children, and you
Speaker 5: just go for it.
Speaker 3: Please, you're telling me we have a married person.
Speaker 8: On the phone.
Speaker 5: Happiness too, Brooke. Always remember you're talking about me. One
Speaker 5: of our listeners had an accidental run with an old
Speaker 5: love interest of his and now he's come to us
Speaker 5: for some help. His name is Jason. Jason. Welcome to
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 3: Hey guys, Jason, as my fingers that you're single, buddy.
Speaker 6: I am all right.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, off to a good start.
Speaker 4: Exadly we would have probably kept going. Yes, conscious feel better.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So apparently you ran into some sort of old
Speaker 5: love interest from your past. Tell us about her.
Speaker 6: Well, it's a it's a girl that I used to
Speaker 6: work with. Her name's Cassy. And you know, I must
Speaker 6: have asked her out half a dozen times, you know,
Speaker 6: back when we worked together.
Speaker 5: Oh you did?
Speaker 3: You did shoot your shot a lot for the shot?
Speaker 7: Was?
Speaker 6: She kind of always acted like she thought I was joking,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, like she didn't take it seriously.
Speaker 1: Well that she was probably doing that to save your feelings.
Speaker 6: Maybe it didn't feel good either way.
Speaker 3: Okay, what was her response always?
Speaker 6: Well, she always would just be like, oh, you're so funny,
Speaker 6: or you know, we worked together, you know that sort
Speaker 6: of thing. And well then she left, right she got
Speaker 6: a different job about seven years ago, and I guess
Speaker 6: roughly a week ago I ran into her at Target. Okay,
Speaker 6: I was like, hey, you know, and you know, we
Speaker 6: kind of shared some old inside jokes and caught up.
Speaker 6: You know, how you you.
Speaker 3: Didn't just ask her out right there?
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if you're the reason she switched off.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you're getting ahead of me, because I did.
Speaker 6: I did ask her out.
Speaker 2: Oh you did.
Speaker 6: I didn't really mean to even ask her out, like
Speaker 6: on a date date, because initially she was like hesitant,
Speaker 6: and I was like, let's just go get some drinks,
Speaker 6: you know, catch up just like friends. And yeah, and
Speaker 6: we did.
Speaker 1: And uh, okay, did you say just like friends when
Speaker 1: you proposed this? Uh?
Speaker 6: Not really? I was like, it's just drinks, all right, Okay.
Speaker 5: Is there a way to make make drinks just friends?
Speaker 5: Like I just want to go out for friend drinks
Speaker 5: with you know?
Speaker 1: I just I was wondering if that's what he said
Speaker 1: to her when when he asked her out, because then
Speaker 1: obviously we know why she isn't friends.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, right, right, Well I kind of did it
Speaker 6: in the way that I guess just as friends unless
Speaker 6: you say yes and minutes more, you know what I
Speaker 6: mean that that kind of thing.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, leave the door open for whatever possibilities happened
Speaker 5: that night, that's okay.
Speaker 6: And so she takes me up on it, gives me
Speaker 6: your number, I get, we get a The date didn't
Speaker 6: really go all that well because I was nervous.
Speaker 3: Oh you're up in your head?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Oh yeah, I was so on my head. So
Speaker 6: like the one reference I had of us together and
Speaker 6: like knew was that target. So I just kept talking
Speaker 6: about stuff that I found at Target.
Speaker 5: Oh god, well, hold on, Like, maybe there's some good
Speaker 5: stuff you found.
Speaker 1: If you talked about Yeah, but I'm guessing that he's
Speaker 1: not going to Target for the fun stuff men go for,
Speaker 1: like vitamins and cream.
Speaker 4: You're so right.
Speaker 5: What did you find there, Jason?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 6: I mean I found lots of stuff from household items
Speaker 6: to cereals that they don't have at my regular grocery store.
Speaker 5: Like, oh, secret cereals is a hot topic.
Speaker 4: I love cereal back off.
Speaker 1: That sucks too, because you've spent seven years going over
Speaker 1: in your head what you would have done differently, and
Speaker 1: then your moment comes and all you can talk about
Speaker 1: is cereals at targets.
Speaker 4: It does sound that.
Speaker 5: Target would be happy with that, though, like they would
Speaker 5: consider that a major romantic win.
Speaker 6: You might be overselling it a little bit. I wouldn't
Speaker 6: say that I've spent like the last seven years, like
Speaker 6: constantly thinking about that. Okay, just like what I saw
Speaker 6: or was like this is perfect.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, Okay, that's good. I don't I don't
Speaker 5: think that sounds like a total disaster of a day.
Speaker 5: It's just one funny moment.
Speaker 6: Look, she was laughing. She acted like she was interested
Speaker 6: in what I was saying.
Speaker 2: So she acted That's the keyword there, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like she laughed at every other joke that
Speaker 1: he made when he asked her out, Jason, is.
Speaker 5: It possible that she was just like pretending to be
Speaker 5: interested and have more fun than she really was.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I will say that I was definitely
Speaker 6: a lot more confident in how well it went before
Speaker 6: this conversation.
Speaker 5: We do have that effect on people, So don't look
Speaker 5: at yourself for that.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: She gave me the normal laughs and asking questions, even
Speaker 6: about different stuff, and so I thought she was interested.
Speaker 6: And I shot her at the text message the next
Speaker 6: day like, hey, had a lot of fun yesterday, would
Speaker 6: you like to hang out again sometime? And she just
Speaker 6: responded with that's not how this works.
Speaker 5: That's not how what works.
Speaker 6: I don't well, I don't know what this is.
Speaker 5: Was did you ask her? She meant yeah, I was like, well, not.
Speaker 6: How what works? And she just has not responded at all.
Speaker 4: She doesn't want to get into it.
Speaker 3: She's like, she's like, he's an idiot.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Maybe she's like saying that's not how this works, Like
Speaker 5: this isn't a romantic situation that's developing here.
Speaker 3: Could I hope yeah, just yeah.
Speaker 5: It depends on how you read it. You could take
Speaker 5: it different ways. The only way to know is to
Speaker 5: actually reach out to Cassie or she's like, that's how
Speaker 5: this works. You need to have a ring buddy with
Speaker 5: the target. But okay, so how long has it been.
Speaker 6: It's been a week?
Speaker 3: Okay, okayount of time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's reach out to her and find out what
Speaker 5: she means and hopefully get you out on another hot
Speaker 5: target date with her when we come back to do
Speaker 5: your second date update right after this second date update.
Speaker 5: If you go out on a date and text them
Speaker 5: afterwards asking them out again, they write back, that's not
Speaker 5: how they works. What does that mean? You know?
Speaker 3: But when you say it like that, it sounds like
Speaker 3: a threat.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it's a mystery. Does it mean you
Speaker 5: texted too soon? Does it mean we're not a romantic
Speaker 5: thing at all?
Speaker 3: Do you mean that you need to try harder?
Speaker 5: Does it mean you need to read the prologue of
Speaker 5: the Da Vinci Code upside down at exactly noon in
Speaker 5: the shadow of the Chrysler building and the answer will
Speaker 5: reveal itself to you. How did you say, Wow, I'm
Speaker 5: just throwing out a guest there. We're hoping to find
Speaker 5: out because this one's a little bit different. Jason, our
Speaker 5: listener has known the girl whereabout to call, going back years.
Speaker 5: They used to work together, asked her out many times
Speaker 5: until she finally said yes. The other day at Target,
Speaker 5: went out on one date, and afterwards he got that strange,
Speaker 5: mysterious text. That's not how this works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because you said you were so nervous,
Speaker 1: but she sounds so confident.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean I felt like I was doing okay because
Speaker 6: she was laughing, smiling, and then when she didn't respond,
Speaker 6: I was I started questioning everything.
Speaker 1: I didn't call it a date, like she might not
Speaker 1: know it's a date.
Speaker 3: Let's get some answers, Jeff, get that Da Vinci codebook out.
Speaker 5: And we're going to be very very clear with her.
Speaker 5: We're going to say a romantic date the Hawkeye recently yes,
Speaker 5: with lots and lots of kissing, in.
Speaker 3: Action, any of that.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm just saying for the next one, we're going
Speaker 5: to make sure it's very clear that he's not in
Speaker 5: the friend zone.
Speaker 2: We ask I'm sorry, We're gonna go.
Speaker 5: We're gonna send you out on a romantic hot date.
Speaker 6: Don't scare her. This sounds more awkward than I was
Speaker 6: by myself.
Speaker 3: Well, you know this show, Jason.
Speaker 8: Listen.
Speaker 5: We'll try and dial it back just a little bit.
Speaker 5: But I'm calling her right now. Hopefully she answers. Here
Speaker 5: we go. Hello, Hey, we're We're gonna speak with Cassie.
Speaker 7: This is her.
Speaker 5: Hey, Sorry, sound weird Therehi Cassie, Good morning. This is
Speaker 5: a whole radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in
Speaker 5: the Morning. Oh my GOSHU Hi, Okay, wait, do you
Speaker 5: know the show?
Speaker 7: I kind of like, what is happening?
Speaker 5: Well, this is a second date update. We heard that
Speaker 5: you went out recently to drinks with one of our
Speaker 5: listeners named Jason. An old I'm not gonna say that
Speaker 5: an old coworker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but why answer like that.
Speaker 7: I feel like that's kind of between him and me.
Speaker 3: Well, he he is clueless, so I don't think anything
Speaker 3: is between.
Speaker 7: You and him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we heard that you guys went out the other day,
Speaker 5: and we just want to know how it went from
Speaker 5: your perspective.
Speaker 3: Like, were you excited?
Speaker 5: Do you have a good time?
Speaker 6: I mean, like I guess like the date was okay,
Speaker 6: But I just.
Speaker 7: Feel like, I don't know, that's just like more of
Speaker 7: a me and him thing.
Speaker 6: To talk about.
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 5: What is well?
Speaker 7: I've been like putting it off because I don't really
Speaker 7: know how to say it to him.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, have you had a crush on him
Speaker 1: for years and you finally want to tell him?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: What I got there's definitely one thing that you were pinpointing,
Speaker 5: like there's something that he did wrong. I mean I
Speaker 5: think he should now Okay, look, Cassie, I normally don't
Speaker 5: do this, and we'd usually find out a little bit
Speaker 5: more before I tell you that he's on the phone listening,
Speaker 5: but he is. What? Yeah there, Hi?
Speaker 7: What are you doing?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: I don't know. You just haven't said anything for like
Speaker 6: six days, I guess, so, like what gives? Why won't
Speaker 6: you talk to me?
Speaker 7: I just I didn't appreciate your text?
Speaker 6: What was what was wrong with the text? Did I
Speaker 6: say something that was offensive? I just asked if you
Speaker 6: wanted to hang out?
Speaker 7: It was just a text, Like, Jason, is that really
Speaker 7: all I am to you? Just a text? No call,
Speaker 7: not in person, nothing, just a text.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sorry, I just I don't know. I
Speaker 6: didn't think about going beyond a text, and that's the problem.
Speaker 3: That's what you're supposed to say. No, You're much more
Speaker 3: than just a text to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to be clinging it.
Speaker 2: Yes, because I like you too much?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I mean did you want me to just
Speaker 6: show open at your house after us not seeing each
Speaker 6: other for that long? I just thought it would be
Speaker 6: the proper way because I wasn't sure, you know, if
Speaker 6: you wanted another date.
Speaker 7: But like, I feel like I deserve romance and deserve
Speaker 7: more than that, So I don't know.
Speaker 6: Can I ask you again? Then?
Speaker 8: Oh? I like that?
Speaker 7: I don't know, can you Okay.
Speaker 5: No pressure here, Jason, you got this.
Speaker 4: And you may want to wait and ask her later.
Speaker 3: Bro, she wants she wants it now.
Speaker 5: Just deliver a super romantic question. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Do you have music?
Speaker 5: You got this? I believe.
Speaker 6: Oh, just let me get it out. Just let me
Speaker 6: get it out, Cassie. Would you like to go out again?
Speaker 7: Jason? Don't say it like that.
Speaker 3: I mean she set you up. She told you exactly
Speaker 3: what she needed. Romance.
Speaker 5: Ye, try it again, Jason, more romantic?
Speaker 6: OKAYSI do you want to go out? With me again, no.
Speaker 2: Information about why you like hers.
Speaker 5: Credit for that?
Speaker 7: Do you hear you? Then it's not do you want?
Speaker 6: What is it? It is because I want to.
Speaker 7: But it's will ill.
Speaker 3: Is just like an English thing where we're getting.
Speaker 6: Okay, if I got to say it exactly with the
Speaker 6: words that you want, okay.
Speaker 7: Okay, I don't hear it from your heart.
Speaker 6: Okay, that is from my heart. Like I've just I've
Speaker 6: done it so many times. I've asked you, like five times.
Speaker 2: What do you want from this man?
Speaker 1: He told us that he asked you what a dozen
Speaker 1: half a dozen times when you work together, and you
Speaker 1: turned him down every time.
Speaker 7: Well, I didn't realize it was such a burden for
Speaker 7: you to ask me out.
Speaker 4: Jason romantic, but he didn't phrase.
Speaker 5: That very well.
Speaker 3: Know she was this high maintenance. It's a pretty high maintenance.
Speaker 7: Can you just please stay out of our business right now?
Speaker 7: Like it's not involving you at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sound like such a pleasure.
Speaker 5: We're supposed to try to make a romantic connection.
Speaker 1: He think Jason sounds like a cool dude, you know,
Speaker 1: like he wants to hang out crying.
Speaker 3: He's doing all the things.
Speaker 5: I'm supporting him, Jason, take some of what Brooks said
Speaker 5: and use that towards Cassie now.
Speaker 6: As do you want to go out with me? I
Speaker 6: want to go out with you a lot, a lot,
Speaker 6: a lot. I just want to know if you do.
Speaker 5: That was the best one yet he put some some
Speaker 5: more into that emphasis, I'm going to pass.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you had her past twelve time.
Speaker 5: She just wasn't feeling it. She wasn't feeling it like
Speaker 5: he really really meant it, and it was from the heart.
Speaker 5: He said that he's.
Speaker 2: Been thinking about her on and off for the last see.
Speaker 2: No matter what she was gonna say.
Speaker 5: No, what you should have said is I've been pondering
Speaker 5: about you deeply and romantically.
Speaker 8: Love me.
Speaker 7: I think I've definitely had enough of you strangers commenting
Speaker 7: on my love life now, so I'm going to hang
Speaker 7: up on you now by Oh that's our only hope.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like we should have tried harder to
Speaker 5: stop her, but I didn't feel like it. She's EXHAUSTI
Speaker 5: h We're getting a lot of texts in at seven eight, five,
Speaker 5: nine two saying you actually dodged a bullet by seeing
Speaker 5: her again.
Speaker 3: That's say a whole missile.
Speaker 5: Can you think maybe you could let it go now?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well, I definitely don't feel like, uh, I don't think
Speaker 6: there's anything I could do with that. I just I
Speaker 6: think that there was no possibility and it woul probably
Speaker 6: would have been better for her to just say no.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 3: That sounded like it was from your heart.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shoo? Should we call her back right now?
Speaker 6: OK?
Speaker 5: Now you're in the.
Speaker 8: Mode brooking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: Does Chris Hemsworth ever have to go through crap like this?
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I feel like if you're super good looking, that conversation
Speaker 5: never comes up. No girl is saying to a hems Worth, O,
Speaker 5: can you like ask me out like better and like
Speaker 5: like put some actual heart into it?
Speaker 4: Can I get more accent?
Speaker 1: I'm actually pretty sure they just grunts.
Speaker 5: Yes, And God blessed Jason because he tried the question
Speaker 5: seven nine different ways whole thing.
Speaker 3: When he gave up, it was almost like she was
Speaker 3: messing with him.
Speaker 5: It's not Honestly, I know we're supposed to try to
Speaker 5: help facilitate a connection between these people, but we are
Speaker 5: all happy that that one did not work out.
Speaker 3: I can't believe he kept trying. Yeah, pick up your dignity. Man,
Speaker 3: you can't do this anymore.
Speaker 5: And if you have problems picking up your own dignity,
Speaker 5: we can help pick it up for you, at least
Speaker 5: a little bit. Yeah, email us, we'll call that person
Speaker 5: who's not calling you back. Go check out all of
Speaker 5: our second dates wherever you get your podcasts at Broke
Speaker 5: and Jeffrey