1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast takes its shirt off for 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl halftime show. Welcome to another edition of 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas. 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm joining our room, teaming with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Greg Rosatal and back. She's back, baby, Colleen wolf Bell. 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: What's up? Sorry? Oh my god, I stepped all over you. Well, 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: this is I'm rusty. Hey. Welcome to the Around the 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast Wednesday edition. Connie, we talked about before the show. 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: We haven't seen each other in a while, and you 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: haven't been on the show in too long. Here in 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: the studio, and we're thrilled to have you back. How 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: are you? Thank you for having me back? This is 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: this is a great honor. It's my favorite time in 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: the off season. It's the moment where Colleen it realizes 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: it's been nice not to do anything for a while, 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: but now I really feel like I have to do something. 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, you're on the broadcast. Is I mean 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: you're back. I'm double potting today. I'm doing the that's 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: the hoops that we had to jump this time around 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: to schedule you with your camp um so gages. I 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: don't deal with a lot of it. Dan, I know 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: you do constant. It's it's really difficult. Uh. And if 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: you remember, Hey Ricky Hollywood, how are you? What's up? Guys? Um? 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: If you remember, Erica and Emma had originally conceived the 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: broadcast as a three hander. Yeah, and Connie was a 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: part of it, but she quick they quickly learned that 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Colleen's available when Colleen wants to be available, hence the 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: long gaps between appearances. Yeah, I'm literally only in l 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: A on Mondays and Tuesdays during the regular season. It's 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: a lot to ask. But last summer you did put 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: in a lot of work. I came up with basically 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: every idea exactly kind of my brain childer more of 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: a performer, not an idea person, who do you think 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: writes all those bits exactly? And all right themselves. So 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Connie's here. We're excited to have Connie. And by the way, um, 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Connie does have a championship ring with the Shield our 37 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: softball team back in two thousand sixteen. Despite her biggest 38 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: um real um, Well, the biggest thing you did for 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: the team was otto beer from the outfield one game. 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: But there, but I tried, but It's good that you 41 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: hear for this because I think it's time. It's time 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: for a press conference, Ricky. Uh, thank you everybody for 43 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: being here. We'd like to formally announce, effective tonight, April three, 44 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: The Shield, the NFL media softball team, is back to 45 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: defend our dynasty. Hashtag defend the dynasty. We took a 46 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: year off, and um, we decide I did, Let's let's 47 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: do it. I'm taking the cleats off the high wire. 48 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: The skip is strapping him back on. He's gonna be 49 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: on the first base bag and really excited to announce 50 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: a couple of things. A few things. Actually one, Colleen 51 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: will not be part of the team. You're excited too. 52 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: We are negotiations with Mark Sessler to work in the 53 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: front office in some capacity, but we we have not 54 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: locked down any type of agreement at this time. There's 55 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: a little update there. Um, I'm going in order of 56 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: least important to most important. Uh three. Chris Westling's back 57 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: after spending all of last year on the disabled list, 58 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: excuse me, injured list while battling the big ce. Uh, 59 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: you are back west and batting leadoff and playing third 60 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: base in my lineup and finally behind the glass. Ricky 61 00:03:54,080 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: Hollywood makes her debut batting eight, protecting the old Zeuser 62 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: in the lineup, playing left center field. And I have 63 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: one final announcement. Wow, Greg Rosenhal's retiring after one season. 64 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: I like that. That got the most important What I 65 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: would do without our Joe mckewing. I wouldn't say retiring. 66 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: You never know if if it's back next year and 67 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: it's on a different night and you know, life things change, 68 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: it could be back. Are you available for a sub opportunity? Potentially, Yeah, 69 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: But I'll open the floor for any questions I've learned 70 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: for you because I felt last in the back. In 71 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: the back, I felt last year that there was a 72 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: level of exhaustion from you and also the idea of 73 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 1: having a third Thank you West doing a third uh title? Chase, 74 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: do you feel that you're sort of a Bill Parcels figure. 75 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: We went away for a year, You come back, you're 76 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: re energized. You know he was coming off a divorce. 77 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: You're not, but you had a new new sort of 78 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: pools of energy. Yes, I was exhausted. There are several 79 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: people on the team that made it very difficult to 80 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: be the manager, you know, complaining about those people are Yes. 81 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: That's why it is a hard decision to come back, 82 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: because I knew the same headaches would be there, but 83 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: yet I had the itch. I had to scratch the itch. 84 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: Anybody else, any questions, any questions? Yeah, I got uh 85 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: in the blue Turtle egg. Are you a little worried 86 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: about the commitment level of your leadoff hitter who does 87 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: not have a glove, cleats and has gone more time 88 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: than ever without playing the game in his adult life. 89 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: You're referring, I believe to Chris westling uh as I. 90 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: When I found out yesterday that West lost his baseball 91 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: bag that included his glove, it made me think of 92 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: Keith Hanss who once said to me many many times 93 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: in fact, when I was a child, your glove should 94 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: treat it like it's your hand. Always know where it is. Well. 95 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: I thought West had that, and the and the West Cincinnati. 96 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: I thought that's what they taught them there too, But 97 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: apparently not. I had that glove for over ten years. 98 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: It was broken in perfectly. I had spent like I 99 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: treated it like a pet for out of years and 100 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: during the move when I had Big Sea. It's just 101 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: it's gone. I don't know what happened? You're putting this 102 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: on the big sea. I was under a lot of 103 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: heavy medication at the time, and I don't think I 104 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: was quite at my normal mental um strength. Did it 105 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: sting for you to bring me back my glove just 106 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago that I hadn't used or thought 107 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: about in a really long time. It did not sting. 108 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: I just it was one of those things where you 109 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: instinctively know it has to go to its own. N's 110 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: losing to need one more, one more for the coach. 111 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: I got one more, one more? Who was it, Gret, 112 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: How do you think the team's gonna react? Because it's rare, 113 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes a player retires or leaves for a year. 114 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: It's really unprecedented in the history of sports dynasties that 115 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: the team retired for a year before coming back. So 116 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: how are you going to handle that? Well, I do 117 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: imagine there's gonna be some rust, Greg And uh absolutely. 118 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: In fact, you know, I did half heartedly try to 119 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: organize a practice ahead of tonight's first pitch. Uh, nobody 120 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: was interested. Is that a bad sign? Yes? But actually, 121 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I'm very excited 122 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: to have the team back together. To have West healthy, 123 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: Uh to have Erica on board, and uh, thank you everybody, 124 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: and um, best luck you guys. It sounds play. If 125 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: you strain hard enough, you can see a precedent here. 126 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead, and nineties Chicago Bulls who won three, took 127 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: a year and a half off, then lost one to 128 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: the Magic. Was disrespectful to Sattie Pippen and Phil Jackson 129 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: and and a lot of great people that were out 130 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: there working while some guys has some bozo dream about 131 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: minor league baseball. I'll extend it further. What is the 132 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: what is the famous famous myth slash potential reality about 133 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: why Michael Jordan left was no, oh, because of the gamble? 134 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Why do you think Greg's not on the team? You're 135 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: calling Greg? You're Michael Jordan's I love it this his 136 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: I would say his softball skills are on par with 137 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's baseball skills. All right, enough of that, So 138 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: we're probably tonight we'll keep you updated on how the 139 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: season is going. Wait, tonight is your first game? Maybe 140 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: past Erica is going to be in our game. Wait 141 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: a second, we're spinning before I'm gonna hang up the cleets. 142 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: All right, come up on today's show PEP Talks. There 143 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: are some players, teams, figures out there that could use 144 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: um some almost uh you know, big brother, big sister 145 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: type pick me up or just in general a person 146 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: to person chat that we believe could be helpful. So 147 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna give PEP Talks to some people. But before that, 148 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: let's get into the news, uh. Starting with a quarterback 149 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: up in the Pacific Northwest, Today's rio as birthday, and 150 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: so in I guess good fashion birthday fashion, we gotta 151 00:08:53,559 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: sing happy Birthday, Happy Birthday, Happy happy Day, Happy Birthday, 152 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: Happy happy I implore everyone to check that out on 153 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's uh, Instagram or Twitter. It's Russell Wilson and 154 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Sierra right at the foot of the Christ the Redeemer 155 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: statue atop the mountain and the Russellison trying just a 156 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: little too hard to have a good like sexy baritone. 157 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: And then right where you aready cut there he goes, 158 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: come on kids. He says it to everybody and no 159 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: one else starts singing. That's embarrassing. Russell Wilson wants to 160 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: get paid. Russell Wilson is entering the last year of 161 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: a four year contract he signed back in two thousand fifteen. UH, 162 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: and he has now set a deadline. He wants a 163 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: new deal with the Seahawks by April fifteenth, when Seattle 164 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: begins its offseason program. This came from rap Sheet on Tuesday, 165 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: Seattle New Seattle Times first had it. Uh, and we'll 166 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: see how this plays out. It doesn't seem greg that, Uh. 167 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: This is a situation where Russell Wilson is going to 168 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: disappear for the Seahawks off season program and we're heading 169 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: towards some ugly stalemate. But he's sending some type of 170 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: message to Seattle Breast. What do you think it is. 171 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: I think it's that he wants that guaranteed money. He 172 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: wants that contract now this offseason, and it's so hard 173 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: for a player to have any leverage in this situation. 174 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: So he's setting a deadline. And after that he says 175 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to hear about it, doesn't want to 176 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: talk about it for the rest of the off season. 177 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk reported that they've known about this since January. 178 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: So the fact that it came out in the media 179 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: multiple places this week tells me, Okay, they're not making 180 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: enough progress, so they're trying to turn up the heat 181 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: on the team a little bit. And I don't think 182 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: he just wants I don't think he wants to be 183 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: on the field again until he has a Kirk Cousins 184 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: like hundred million dollars guaranteed, and if they don't want 185 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: to get it done by April that he says, fine, 186 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: you know you'll you'll get stuck, you know, trying to 187 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: negotiate with me and franchise tagging me next off season. 188 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that he's not going with like 189 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: the week one sort of deadline that we always see 190 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: with these guys camp. This is the this is the 191 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: first time I've ever heard a right, that's the that's 192 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: the beginning of their off season program. And so it's 193 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: kind of curious that he picks that date. Does that 194 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: tell us that maybe that they're actually closer than we think, 195 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: because why I said, a deadline that's essentially, you know, 196 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: a fortnite from now, if there's no way it's gonna happen, 197 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: and it's essentially you're still gonna play, You're not gonna 198 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: hold out. It's not Levy on Bell part two. And 199 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: it just seems to me like both sides wanted to happen. 200 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: It just feels to me, I don't there's no sense 201 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: of threat here. They no way or the Seahawks going 202 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: to reimagine their entire defense and roster and not have 203 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson be part of that a couple of years 204 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: into it with I just give us, give it, give 205 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: me the guaranteed big contract I love right now, or 206 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: else you risk going down the Cousins route in Washington, 207 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: which is you franchise me once, you franchise me again 208 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: and make me the highest paid player in the league, 209 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: and then you you are totally potentially left out cold 210 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: because I can walk away from you and you'll have 211 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: no way to stop it. Uh. Is that the situation 212 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: potential that could unfold here? Was? I just don't see 213 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: the comparison there, because at some point the Seahawks are 214 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: just gonna say, if it ever gets to the point 215 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: where would be a Kirk Cousins franchise Texas situation where 216 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: the player has the leverage, the Seahawks would say, we 217 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: just give what'll just give you what you want. We'll 218 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: just give you as much money as you want because 219 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: we're not losing you to me. This is this story 220 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: would have a lot more teeth if it was the 221 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: NBA or the MLB where they don't have the franchise tag. 222 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: I really wonder how hard of a push the union 223 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: is gonna make to get rid of the franchise tag. 224 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: They can push as much as they want, but it's 225 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: not gonna as part of the next collective bargaining agreement. 226 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: They've gotten some concessions and if they decided to make 227 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: that a top, top priority, I think it's possible. It's not. 228 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: There's no way the owners are gonna sit down and 229 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna say, Okay, I'll allow you to take Andrew 230 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: Luck off my roster, or I'll allow you to take 231 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, in three years Baker Mayfield off my roster. 232 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to take him, you just 233 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: you just signed him to the contract. I think he'll 234 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: get the contract in the end. I would just say, 235 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: these like these giants fans that are you know, and 236 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: I get it. They're fantasizing about a year from now 237 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: snatching Russell Wilson away from the Seahawks. The difference between 238 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: the Redskins and Seattle's. The Seahawks want to have one 239 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: of the best front offices in the NFL, the Redskins 240 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: have consistently had one of the worst and they botched 241 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: their quarterback situation away that thirty one other teams would 242 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: never do if they held. Yeah, that's the problem. The 243 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: worst case scenario for the Seax is they just tag 244 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: him next year, which is fine for them, and he 245 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: should get paid though when you think about the fact 246 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: that he hasn't missed a start in all of the 247 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: time that he's been there, plus he's plates behind some 248 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: really bad offensive lines, and just his style of playing, 249 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: the fact that he hasn't gotten hurt or he hasn't 250 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: been hindered at always been really consistent. He deserves to 251 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: be by his contract allowed them to build that team. 252 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: Um and apparently I read that the Seahawks have been 253 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: budgeting this for this moment for a long time. It's 254 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: in all likelihood he's not going anywhere. But yeah, I 255 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: think where the snatching can come into play is after 256 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: if it ever got to after the second franchise the 257 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: snatching And don't think I didn't miss that a Fortnite 258 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: RAF there, buddy, you know the kids of today, it's 259 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: all but it's just the video game. Blah blah blah, fortnite, 260 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: which means two weeks. Something I didn't learn until about 261 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying about eighteen months ago. Well, I spent forty 262 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: something years thinking that it meant ten days. I thought 263 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: it meant ten days until I was late late thirties. 264 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: So two weeks, two weeks, remember that total recall, So 265 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: thirty six fortnights is how long it took. Yes, many 266 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: a fortnite. Uh, it's all. It looks like it's all 267 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: over for a a F, the Alliance of American Football 268 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: that just wrapped eight weeks of action. But a F 269 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: chairman Tom Dundon suspended football operations on Tuesday, uh, which 270 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: has led to a lot of controversy. Dundn bailed out 271 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: the a a F, although a F says there they 272 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: didn't need the bail out, but uh he he put 273 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: out two d and fifty million dollars to boost uh 274 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: the fledgling league about a month ago, a month and 275 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: a half ago, and now he is shutting things down. 276 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: And Bill Polian, who was a co founder league, put 277 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: out a statement saying how he was extremely disappointed, essentially 278 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: making a public that they believe they were misled by Dundon, who, um, 279 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: we've even heard reports that, uh, he only bought the team, 280 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: only bought the league, or brought into the league to 281 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: strip it of its I P properties, all that type 282 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: of stuff. Mark that, uh, this goes on in the 283 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: business world. But I think the idea and why people 284 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: are upset with this guy is they thought he was 285 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: in it to help build the league and it's gonna 286 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: take more than one season, and it looks like they're 287 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: not even gonna get one. They were looking for buying 288 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: and you know, I initially and I'll let you guys 289 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: hit on the football side when I when I thought 290 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: Tom Dundon, is this guy that's coming in with his 291 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: millions and he's gonna do his little underhanded business. And 292 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: I was imagining like an Enron executive who was like 293 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: seventy three years old with a big pot belly. He's 294 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: like a year older than West and I in much 295 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: better shape. And like when we were floating around the 296 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: country doing nothing, he was like killing people with these 297 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: bizarre subprime auto loans. He got rich in a very 298 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: bizarre way. And I talked to Connor Orr, who was 299 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: pretty deep in on because the A A F like 300 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: obviously pulled a certain group of journalists in to cover 301 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: from a from another way that we ignored it largely. 302 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: Others did not. And Connor talked to a coach essentially 303 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: like went out, like punched his clock, went out for 304 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: a lunch break yesterday and you know, went up the street, 305 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: got like Chipotle and came back and it's like, not 306 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: only do you not have a job, the entire company 307 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: has gone. And they were struggling. They were so into 308 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: the a f the coaches that they were basically begging 309 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: for laptops. They've been promised for weeks. You're gonna get laptops. 310 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: Field of Scout players. This is your career, you're gonna grow. 311 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: They didn't even have computers to work with, so they 312 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: were doing a lot with a little And it's just 313 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: one of those other examples that starting one of these 314 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: leagues so much harder than it appears. When this one 315 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: appeared different, Robert Clemco of s I dot Com tweeted 316 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: out that he had heard that the players who were 317 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: preparing for a game this weekend before all this stuff 318 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: went down I had to pay or have to pay 319 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: their own out of their own pocket to fly home 320 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: from this. So it sounds like the entire league had 321 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: the rug pulled out from under it by Dundon. And 322 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: not only that, there's a ton of people that haven't 323 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: been paid yet either, like there's a ton of them 324 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: they won't be with outstanding bills that I have no 325 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: idea how they're going to get paid now. It's so 326 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: it shows how hard it is. Because they did accomplish 327 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: a lot on some level. They showed that there was 328 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: an appetite for it in a few different markets. San 329 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: Antonio is one, Orlando, uh, San Diego, they had good attendance, 330 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: But how much of that is because of the newness, 331 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: how much of that is because it's the novel? And 332 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: then more more importantly, you know our network, and maybe 333 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: that was you know, I don't know the deal, the 334 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: deal that they had in terms of how much they 335 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: were getting paid or what was going on in terms 336 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: of you know, NFL network showing it and CBS showing it. 337 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: It got like very good ratings, like very good ratings, 338 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: like ratings that in the in the States, not just 339 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: like tripled what's normally on NFL network, but it's very 340 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: competitive with like or better than like a national basketball 341 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: game or or when TBS has baseball it's like I 342 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: love tennis. It was out rating like some big time 343 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: semifinal or finals of like a master's surnavice, so people 344 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: were into it. Can we add a little perspective to 345 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: that if you look at the history of these leagues, 346 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: the WFL, the USFL, the XFL, they always start out 347 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: hot for a month because of the novelty and then 348 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: people get bored with it. But it was what I'm 349 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: saying is it it was pretty steady for the two months, 350 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: and more importantly, it's like I think the NFL and 351 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: I I think this is someone who loves football, there 352 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: is such a need for It wasn't just these players, 353 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, second chance or last year. It was the coaches, 354 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: it was the front office, it was you know, every 355 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: all the support staff. Like it just seems like there 356 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: should be room for some sort of developmental league. But 357 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna have to come like officially 358 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: through the NFL, and the NFL never wants or it's 359 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: hard like for the NFL to figure out how to 360 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: do that. It's so hard for We talked about we 361 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: talked about the c b A and what happens with 362 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: the next negotiations and the franchise tag is something that 363 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: will come up. One of the reasons why this all 364 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: got blocked and dund and pulled the plug was that 365 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: this idea that they wanted to have some young NFL 366 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: connected talent and it wasn't in the current c b 367 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: A even possible. And I don't blame the NFL. They 368 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: have the most amazing free developmental league in the world, 369 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: which is the well that went against the a F 370 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: Like Charlie Eversol and Bill Pollion, we're not demanding that. 371 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: That was Dundon going out of his own to USA 372 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: today and demanding that. Yeah, it was ugly business transit 373 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: and one human, one human human angle to all of this, 374 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: beyond everything else we've discussed, is that down in our 375 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: newsroom they were a pack of I don't want to 376 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: call them nerds, they're wonderful guys. But they had a 377 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: a a F fantasy league that was, you know, scorching 378 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: towards their own playoffs. Michael Fabiano and A and a 379 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: group of others that just got the plug got pulled 380 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: on that declared the champion ahead. I don't I don't 381 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: know if this is in the Hall of Fame, though, 382 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: it's that it's that Michael Jordan's cutthrow competitive desire that 383 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 1: he has and my my last thought on all this, 384 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: and it does suck. A lot of people lost their jobs. 385 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: Um Number one, Fitzikman, take heed before you invest any 386 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: more millions into your exits ahead. This is not easy 387 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: to do and it might be boondoggle two point oh 388 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: for you. And the other thing is, let's take a 389 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: moment moment of silence for the Alliance of American Football 390 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: podcast Around the a F podcast which never even got 391 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: a chance to get off the ground. It wasn't even fledgling. 392 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: We were we were ready to launch it. We're planning it. 393 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: We were planning it. I was writing up bits, I 394 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: was coming up with a lot of ideas Fox. I 395 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: was looking forward to being a producer for the first time. 396 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: West was going to produce a tiny box, was gonna 397 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: host it. It was gonna be wild. It just not happened. 398 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: In other news, let's let's uh um, let's talk cheese 399 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: the packers. We'll start with Jordy Nelson. You remember Jordy Nelson. 400 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: He retired, um uh, And we talked about last Friday 401 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: on Friday Show. I believe he said that he was 402 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: in the hall, very good at an incredible h five 403 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: to six year run with Aaron Rodgers fell off after 404 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: that knee injury, but had a great career. Thought it 405 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: was over, but he spoke to Uh. He spoke on 406 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show about what would happen if Aaron 407 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers called about coming back to the Packers. He said, 408 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: it would probably be hard to say no. So there 409 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: you have it, and it is interesting you kinda he 410 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: kind of put his buddy Aaron in a tough spot 411 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: now because Aaron Rodgers famously was upset that he wasn't 412 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: consulted about Rodgers being cut last year and he ended 413 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: up on the Rock or Nelson being cut last year 414 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: and ended up on the Raiders now Rogers. You know, 415 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: he kind of put the onus on Rodgers to maybe 416 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: whisper into his front office's ear and if he if 417 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: he doesn't, if he doesn't hear from the Packers, well 418 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: then he knows that Aaron didn't vouch for him. So 419 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: but I saw that quote of what he said it 420 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: would probably be hard to say no. I definitely read 421 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: it is as it would probably be a hard no. 422 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: So I thought this whole time the Jorty was like, 423 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: absolutely not, I am done. There is no way, And 424 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: I was like, this is juicy. I wonder what's going 425 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. But now this makes a whole 426 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: lot more sense. Well doesn't it tell? It tells me 427 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: two things. One that Aaron Rodgers has no pool in 428 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: the front office, and Jordy Nelson knows it. That's why 429 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: he's saying this. And secondly, if he thought there was 430 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: any chance of this happening, why retire from late March? 431 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: Why not wait until July or something? Right his I'm 432 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: sure his agent was aggressive in trying to find jobs 433 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: for him. It sounded like and including with the Packers. 434 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: And I don't think those jobs are available. Uh. In 435 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: other Packers news, Mike McCarthy, who was fired back in 436 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: December UH by the Packers after a long run, including 437 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl win. Uh. He spoke with ESPN dot 438 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: COM's robbed Amowsky and A Q and A and he 439 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: had this to say, if we missed the playoffs, I 440 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: expected change might happen, but the timing surprised me. Actually, 441 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: it's stunned me. It couldn't have been handled any worse. 442 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Now I want to tee up the biggest Mike McCarthy 443 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: hater in the room, right, Greg Rosenthal, you must think 444 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: this is a bunch of malarkey. That's not fair. Um No. 445 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: I I read the interview and everything he said made sense. 446 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: He didn't like the cold, impersonal way that it happened, 447 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: that it was just you know, from Mark Murphy, their president, 448 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: basically no thank you know nothing, just kind of stunned at, 449 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: like immediately lost. And I thought he had good perspective 450 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: on it. I was looking to have, like see if 451 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: he had a lot of fire and brimstone or what. 452 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: And I think he realized the time apart was good. 453 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: And the most memorable thing from the interview was something 454 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: his wife said to him right when he got home. 455 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: He said the first thing when he talked to her, 456 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: and it was just the two of them, was that 457 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: she said she was relieved that you haven't really been 458 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: here the last couple of years, not just that you 459 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, during the season, because that happens with every 460 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: NFL coach, even in the off season, that like, when 461 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: you're here, you're not really here. And I think you 462 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: could almost see that in in some of these coaches, 463 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: including McCarthy, when they've been in a tough spot for 464 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: a long time that like, you know, he needed a break, 465 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: he was just in another place mentally. I mean, I 466 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: I look for the person who is happy with the 467 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: way they were fired. That would be a story to me. 468 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: But I secondly, I have interviewed a couple of coaches 469 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: wives where they had the same thing, like I just 470 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: need like this person to be more available, and then 471 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: the minute that they are totally available, it's like you're 472 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: around the house way too much. I need you to 473 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: get back out and do other things. So what I'd 474 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: like to check in with where she's at now on 475 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: that you never interview another coach's wife who said this 476 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: was an award winning story, a blog post and award 477 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: winning blog post. What what what it ward? Did it win? Uh? 478 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: National blog Post of America Award? Speaking of UM awards 479 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: and almost winning and fictional stuff. We uh, not the stitchers, 480 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: the webbies. We found out an email and internal email 481 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: yesterday that we were honored as in which sounds sounds good. 482 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: To be an honoree means that you were not nominated, 483 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: but you were in the first tier or the first 484 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: dish tier of losers that missed out on a nomination. 485 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: So if you want to vote for that category best 486 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Sports Podcast, go ahead, that's cool, but just know that 487 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: we were almost in the group. We were in the top. 488 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: But so basically basically five five pods got nominated. It 489 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: was like thirty for thirty. You know that, Steve McNair. 490 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: So like, I guess we gotta do like some true 491 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: crime stuff if you want to get nominated. And then 492 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: there's another five or six that's like, you know, honor reads. 493 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: So it's like the also receiving votes category in the 494 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: top twenty five pole or it's like it's honorable mention. Essentially, 495 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: it's like it's like being a nominee, but worse, you're 496 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: the best loser, right, Hey, Ricky, it's al must just annoying. 497 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: It actually gives me a thought. Can you reach out 498 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: to uh the Webbies and reject the Can you let 499 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: them know that I do not accept their honor redesignation 500 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: and to remove us from their website. That's like taking 501 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: the medal off when I yeah, getting like and I 502 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: looked at some of the some of the honorees, and 503 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, there were some pretty well known podcasts and everything, 504 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: and I started when I was like, are they just 505 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: trying to get more pop of people talking about the 506 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: Webbies in there? They're getting it right now with these 507 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: little honoree things, more than they already have talking about it. 508 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm sweeping the nation. Moving on, the Detroit Lions have 509 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: reached agreement on a one year deal with c. J. Anderson. Uh, 510 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: the running back who was out of the league and 511 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: I caught on with the Rams and did some damage 512 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: with his big beefy man. Body's twenty eight years old, 513 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: He's got a Pro Bowl under his belt, and now 514 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: he joins a somewhat crowded Lions backfield. Tiny box, you 515 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: got Carrie on Johnson, Uh, THEO Riddick, who's their past catcher? Uh? 516 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: And then and Mark Radar for this one for you. 517 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: But Connie zack Center v. C J. Anderson, Well, I 518 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: wrote doom for Zach Center. So what do you I mean? 519 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: If C. J. Anderson can't beat out Zack Center, maybe 520 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: his days in the league are numbered, but it seems 521 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: like he has a strong path to the Yeah, I 522 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: think he has a real good shot at beating him out. 523 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: But they also wanted to sorts. Did you know that 524 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: Zack Center led the League in rushing in the preseason 525 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: four years ago. I did not remember that that thank 526 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: you for a jog in my memory show. Well, I 527 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: think that they wanted to limit the carries of Carrie 528 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: on Johnson, so it kind of Johnson okay, so it 529 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: makes sense. Damn it, everyone's stepping all over me. I 530 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: don't know. Whatever, go to somebody else, forget it. The 531 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: Lions come back. Couldn't the Lions get a power back? Please? 532 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: They've been trying this since all the way back to 533 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: like when Job at Best and Michael Lashore we're in 534 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: the backfield to get like Gary Blunt was a failure. 535 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: Zenner hasn't done anything. Once in a while. You had 536 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: Joke Bell doing a few things, but they've never been 537 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: able to get a real power back to pair with 538 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: all their little bunnies in the back. Job bunnies, little bunnies, that's, 539 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, kind of we love some of those bunnies, 540 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: your boy. I like the bunnies. Yeah. I was a 541 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: big Job at Best fan. Not maybe not as much 542 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: as Jim Schwartz, who um put some things on the 543 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: doorknob when he was watching Job at Best film. If 544 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: you remember, Okay, put a sock on the door, knob, 545 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: don't bother me while I'm watching job at best A Cowboys, 546 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: they've been, uh, you know, they've supported Randy Randy Gregory 547 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: who's been dealing with off the field issues. The team 548 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: now putting the money where the mouth is. Stole that 549 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: directly from Kevin Patrick's lead of his around the NFL post. 550 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Incredible work Patrick does. He's a grinder. Tom Pellicero of 551 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: NFL Network reported that the Cowboys quietly extended Gregory's contract 552 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: through with three g s of existing to that through 553 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen salary converted into as signing bonus. The deal 554 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: adds one year worth seven K with a chance to 555 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: earn more Escalators. Former second round pick was set to 556 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: be on the final year of his contract. So we're 557 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: not talking big money. So it's not some big deal, Colleen. 558 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna interrupt you here, But the Cowboys said 559 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: that they stood by him, and this is a little 560 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: bit of a nod, like, hey, we're hanging in there 561 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: with you for the time he's suspended indefinitely, So I mean, 562 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: I guess they must sort of know something that he 563 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: will kind of maybe be back at some point soon. 564 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: What's interesting to me about this is the test anymore tests. 565 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: They've adopted a very progressive attitude towards addiction. They have said, 566 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: we believe that addicts will fall off the wagon. It's 567 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: it's in, it's in them, it's going to happen. We 568 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: know that, we understand that we like his character, we 569 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: like him as a person, and we like what he 570 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: did for us last year. We want to continue the relationship, 571 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: right and we like it so much we're gonna take 572 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: this opportunity if you want to look at it, and 573 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: I think I think it works for both sides. He's 574 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: getting some upfront money that you know that helps him. 575 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: But hey, like, if if we're in a world where 576 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: we're thinking you're gonna be on our team for why 577 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: don't we lock you in in a at a rate 578 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: that's like way way below market right now? When you're 579 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: gonna take it and hold on? What does it mean? 580 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: They quietly did it because it made news we're talking 581 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: about now. I think all the normal channel I thought 582 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: about that. I think actually it happened a while ago 583 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: and it was just sitting there. It's kind of one 584 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: of those that they don't want to announce too much. 585 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we just give this guy who's suspended 586 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: for a year a big sign and I can show 587 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: you quiet that was not that's that was not the 588 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: quietest thing that's happened in our country. I was gonna say, 589 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: like it could have been this week, and they just like, 590 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: hen convert some of you want to you want to 591 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: really annoy you in let's have you break this. That's 592 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: my question answered. Thank you keep saying go convert some 593 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: of it. It's like, what's what's without that vineyards? That's 594 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: without that vineyard buying? Just another thirty minutes of this 595 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: show and then we'll be left. That's some escalators too, 596 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: all right. Finally in the news, a new segment I 597 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: call England Stuff. The new Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London 598 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: open Wednesday. It is the first purpose built NFL stadium 599 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: outside of the US, and it will host two regular 600 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: season NFL games later this year. Uh, the NFL, I 601 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: like this little rankle and this is like sneaky, kind 602 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: of a big deal. The NFL field is stationed underneath 603 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: a retractable soccer. I was gonna say field, that's not 604 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: what you say. What do you say football? Field? And 605 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: you were in France for the World Cup. Nil nil. 606 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: That's about it. Nailed it. Anyway. This is a big 607 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: deal because it's just another indication to have a a 608 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: football American football specific field um at the ready. It 609 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: just shows how invested uh England in the U k 610 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: is and the and the product over there and and 611 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: the ability to grow and maybe one day, Greg, one 612 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: day a team can call London home. Long way off, 613 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: but they have the facility to get it done. At 614 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: the very least. We'll have two games this year, you know, 615 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: two NFL games, and who knows, maybe we'll be attending 616 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: one of them. I would like that. Uh. There's also 617 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: some talk that going the week before the season like 618 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: we did last year, if we were gonna go once 619 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: this year, that might be more advantageous to us. But 620 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: one thing I've learned at the NFL doesn't really matter 621 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: what we want to do. They're gonna they're gonna send 622 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: this either way. And I would love I would love 623 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: it to go see a game at Tottenham. That would 624 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: be great. Hey for this new segment England stuff, can 625 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: you put Ricky? We can't actually use the sex pistols, 626 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: but finding the library some approximation of a driving uh 627 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: punk sound for England stuff. Okay, I'll do it and 628 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: that is England stuff. Got all right, that's what's happening 629 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: in the news. All right, boys and girl, it is 630 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: time before I get into it. It's been a while. 631 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: A word from our sponsor. Lisa knows how important rest 632 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: is to a better life. Lisa's the foundation of a healthier, 633 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: happier you. 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All right, now, let's 653 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: get to it. Pep talk time. Uh, you know this 654 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: is the time of year where there's some some people 655 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: are feeling great. For instance, Mark, you're Cleveland Ground Browns. 656 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: Everyone's feeling great. Nobody needs a Colleen just went up 657 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: on the chair about three ft continue, what's wrongeter? Up? 658 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: Is this part of the show? I like it. I 659 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: was just getting more comfortable. The Browns. They don't need 660 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: a pep talk. They just they just need to be 661 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: excited about what's to come. But not everyone's like that, Mark, 662 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: So why don't you pick out, uh, somebody that could 663 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: use one and then deliver it. I will pick the 664 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: team that is the closest to the Cleveland Browns geographically, 665 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. You know what, you know what bothers. 666 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: Me is I feel like a lot of people like, 667 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: look at the Buffalo Bills and say, you don't really 668 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: belong in this league. You're a vestige of an old time. 669 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: You're not shiny like the Dallas Cowboys, you don't glisten 670 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: like the little rams of lost angels. Look at you. 671 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna just shove you into a super Bowl. I say, 672 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, ignore everyone, and I know, I know you 673 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: know what this in this room. I think that we 674 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: have the same thing going on. A lot of people 675 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: have told us in the past, not in the last 676 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: couple of months maybe, but an earlier time in life, 677 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: you don't belong here. When Colleen was well, we get 678 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: it in this at this level, but always, what are 679 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: you thinking you're gonna go do with your life? You're 680 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: talking about a golf course out in the middle of 681 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: the the upstate New York or wherever you were, Colleen, 682 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: Like people saying, you think you're gonna get to NFL network. 683 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: The history is very rich here West working in a 684 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: post office, Gregg picking strawberries, Dan doing patch somewhere. Please, 685 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: how are you going to get to the NFL? Erica 686 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: doing all that she did? We've we've been, we had, 687 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: we know that feeling too of people telling us we 688 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: don't belong. And I would say this, ignore it, bills, 689 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: you do fit. I see it this way. You are 690 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: set apart from the rest of the league in a 691 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: special way. Drown out the haters, the get glers, those 692 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: who say the NFL never would have given you a 693 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: franchise if we started today in you didn't get Antonio 694 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Brown because you're just not a big enough city. You're 695 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: not glitzy enough. You can't have any sticks hand out 696 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: of hand. I don't like it. You're a team pitted 697 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: against the deep state elite. You got a bunch of little, 698 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: amazing Western New York towns around you, towns like Batavia, 699 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: New York, on On, Daga, Corning, Doune, Kirk, Geneva, James Town, 700 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm not done, Lackawanna, Lockport, Niagara Falls, Tonawanda, north Tonawanda. 701 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: I've been. I lived in I lived in these I 702 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: drove through these areas. My relatives lived in these areas. Olean, 703 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: Orchard Park, Salamanca, Hornell, montor Falls, Watkins, Glenn do it 704 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: for Rochester, New York. I was born there in Strong 705 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: Hospital in the middle of the night, and then I returned. 706 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: Twenty three years later, on a bus from Los Angeles 707 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: on the final leg heading to Danbury, Connecticut, got out 708 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: to get a snack at a vending machine and was 709 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: nearly mugged, but the bus driver stepped in between said 710 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: crime and stopped it from happening. So do it for 711 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: the guy who tried to mug me, Do it for 712 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: the bus driver, Do it for Buffalo bills. Ignore all 713 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: the haters. Get to the playoffs. Change the a f C. East. 714 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: You have the coach. We met him a week ago. 715 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: We love him. I love the GM standing up for 716 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: the home team. Forget the other thirty one teams. Who 717 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: cares about image be you love it. I really like it. 718 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: City needs it, the region needs it, and you delivered it. 719 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: I feel like the players, if they were listening to 720 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: that Pep Talc, you know, once he started getting into 721 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: your history, maybe they would have. I lost my way 722 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: right then. You brought it, but you brought it back. 723 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: You brought it back, start worked it veered. But yeah, 724 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: the most I would say, the most pleasant surprise. I 725 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: don't know why I would I would be surprised, but 726 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: I was. Was the Sean McDermott. Uh fun personality. The 727 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: only guy that went through the crucible our speed round 728 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: during the owners meetings and wanted more when it was over. 729 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: He just seemed to be a dude that, uh, you know, 730 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: it is easy to root for it too, and I 731 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: and I said that to Sean. I said, listen, somebody's 732 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: got to get the Patriots out. I don't like the Dolphins. 733 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: I have never liked the Dolphins. But if it was 734 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: the Bills, I'd be okay with that. We could root 735 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: for that. Ye be okay with the Bills. I'm just glad. 736 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: The bus driver intervened. He was this gigantic he just 737 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: walked down the steps, you know, the big, gigantic great 738 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: house bus, and like some guy was sort of in 739 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 1: my face. He's like, you know, I don't even remember 740 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: what it was was like early in the morning. He's like, 741 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: you don't bother the passenger, and he just moved this. 742 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: He sort of brushed this guy away, and I was like, 743 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: thank you, because I was just like a little how 744 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: much money did you have on you? No? I also 745 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: I think I was trying to tell him I have 746 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: like my house key and like my driver's license, like 747 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: you can have them, but my house is like seven 748 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: hours from here. Forget play like a bill this year 749 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: they should just put up the sign like do it 750 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: for that guy on the podcast bus Driver, do it 751 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: for bussy ums. I would like to sit Mike Tomlin 752 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: down and have a little heart to heart talk. He's 753 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: right here, well, Mr tom with the quote the great 754 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: wrestler the American Dream, Dusty Rhodes. Hard times are on 755 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Hard times. You're under the microscope, a 756 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: subject of derision. Your back is against the wall. But 757 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: let's take a step back and re examine this situation 758 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: with a fresh eye. You came to the Steelers in 759 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: your interview as an unknown and afterthought, and you won 760 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: the room. You got the job. It didn't take long 761 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: for you to be viewed as the ultimate leader of men. 762 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: In fact, one of the very first money drops on 763 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: this podcast was what Mike Well, Mike Tomlin's a genius 764 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: around the NFL. Podcast would follow Mike Tomlin anywhere, and look, 765 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, we humans, We're not always at our best. 766 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: We don't realize our pidential. Every year there's a duality 767 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: that merges into us. There's no light without darkness. There's 768 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: no Yoda without Darth Vader. We gain awareness of ourselves 769 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: and others from setbacks and difficulties. Growth happens by taking 770 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: a long, hard look in the mirror and making adjustments. 771 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: You know, going back to the Bible, Paul said to 772 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: the Romans, we also rejoice in our sufferings because we 773 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: know that suffering produces per perseverance, perseverance, character and character, hope, 774 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: and hope does not disappoint us. Look at your division. 775 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: The Ravens are in transition. The Browns haven't proven anything. 776 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: The Bengals are the Bengals. They don't win playoff games. 777 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: Your d led the NFL and sex. Your old line 778 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: is rock solid. You have one of the best young 779 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: running backs in the league, one of the best young 780 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: wide receivers in the league, and a legit franchise quarterback. 781 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: Most of the coaches in the NFL would change places 782 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: with you in a heartbeat. This is your division. Go 783 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: reclaim the Iron Zone. Mike Tomlin, Wow, I mean was 784 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,280 Speaker 1: excellent and even a modern pop culture reference. The close 785 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: it and Bible went into your your Bible aside and 786 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: most pop culture. And he motioned over to Mark and 787 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: that was so natural. It's almost like an Obama speech. 788 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: It was just beautiful, thank you to hear it. And 789 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 1: I think he'll writers. I think he'll learn from that. Alright, alright, 790 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: I got the Steelers at thirteen wins after that, Connie, Okay, 791 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: here we go. Hey, Giants fans, how you doing still terrible? 792 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy how your season ended in December, but somehow 793 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: you're still losing. I mean, it's it's it's insane. Odell 794 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: Beckham gone, no franchise tag for Landon Collins and future 795 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: a RP pitchman. Eli Manning has delayed his long overdue 796 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: retirement to return for yet another season because of course 797 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 1: he has so many elves for Big Blue. But unlike 798 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: Big Sean, tonight, you're not bouncing back. But April that's 799 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: when everything will totally make sense. I swear from the 800 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: man who brought you. We didn't sign him to trade him, 801 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: and we do have a plan and this is part 802 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: of it. You're fearless leader. Dave Gettleman will absolutely piece 803 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 1: together this horror show jigsaw puzzle at the draft. Maybe 804 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: that means selecting Dwayne Haskins at six, or maybe they're 805 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: pulling Seahawks by rebuilding, retooling to then go ten and six, which, hey, 806 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: in the NFC East is good enough to win the division. 807 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: Dare to dream, New York and don't let the offseason 808 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 1: get you down. Come on, guys, that's what the regular 809 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: season is for. I think I nailed it, you know what. 810 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: I think that it's like this exercise and I love 811 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: it because so far they've been it's been on the 812 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: nose in a good way. You're trying to help the Bills, 813 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: and and Mike Tomlin Colleen is an Eagles fan, is 814 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: season on the opportunity to just throw more gasoline on 815 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: the fire. And I like it. It was dirty, yeah, 816 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: and it was took me about three minutes to write. 817 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: It was all from the heart. So that's what matters, right, Um, 818 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: what if what if he does have a good draft, 819 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: It's possible. It's coursie, I mean he did we learned 820 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: nothing from not I'm not saying that that Ruden now 821 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: is out of the woods in Oakland, But did we 822 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: learn nothing from last year? Can we at least see 823 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: these things out before we completely burry a franchise people? Well, 824 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: he weren't they one of the worst teams in the 825 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: NFL last year, Yes, because he was tearing it down 826 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: and trading a way parts to rebuild with his and 827 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: his own image. You just gotta see how it plays out. 828 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: But I understand people having fun with with Eli and 829 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: getting in and the Giants. It's fun. Gentleman's definitely taken 830 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: the place of John Gruten for me this year, That's 831 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We'll see and there will be someone 832 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: to take Gett in his place, most likely because Gettleman 833 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: maybe in New York too. Yeah, he'll be fired if 834 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: he does not nail this draft. Um, I want to Uh, 835 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: I gotta talk to you, Josh Rosen, sit down, young man. 836 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: It's it's not your fault. It's not your fault. It 837 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: probably feels like it because nobody believes in you anymore. 838 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 1: That's how it must feel to you that you don't 839 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: you don't have a champion, You have no one in 840 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: your corner at this point. That you're yesterday's news. Even 841 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Castley, who we love, he cited sources that you 842 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: didn't work hard enough. Uh, that you were You made 843 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: bad decisions. And I trust Charlie, but I also trust 844 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: that you, Josh. You're not done maturing and growing as 845 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: a human and as a as a football player, but 846 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: as a human. Uh West, let me ask you a question. 847 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: Was Brett Farve? Was he ready at twenty two? He was? 848 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,479 Speaker 1: It was said of him that he tried to drink 849 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: up the entire city of Atlanta, and he was banished 850 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: to Green Bay. Sounds like puer Bowl week. That is no. Uh? 851 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: Two years old? Was was the blonde bomber ready? Terry Bradshaw? 852 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw was not ready. He was benched three or 853 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: four times. Jim Plunkett, one of the most famous quarterbacks 854 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: of the seventies champion, failed out with the Patriots and 855 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: had to go to a new team, the Raiders. Twenty 856 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 1: two years old. You learn a lot when you're twenty 857 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: two and uh, here's here's why, Josh, don't feel bad. 858 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: You're caught in the gears of a machine that is 859 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: bigger than all of us. It is the draft industrial complex. 860 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: He's been sucked in to the gears. He's getting spit out, 861 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 1: and you'll get another chance. Maybe it's in Arizona. Maybe 862 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: it's with Dave Gettleman in New York. Whoever succeeds Gettleman, 863 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: or maybe it's in Washington or your boys, Greg, the Patriots. Uh, 864 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: maybe he's the heir apparent or someplace else we don't 865 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: know about. But just just be ready when that time comes, 866 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: because it is coming. And also know this, it's not 867 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 1: your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. 868 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: You're like a guidance count. Give me a huge that's 869 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: really nice, um, And I honestly believe that this this 870 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: kid is he having is he did he do everything 871 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: the right way after being drafted? Did he have a 872 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: good year in Arizona everything we're hearing, maybe not, But 873 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: this idea, and I get it, it's a business, and 874 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: Arizona is taking this opportunity to maybe sees on a 875 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: generational dual threat passer with this new hotshot head coach 876 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: that they that they believe in so much. But this idea, 877 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: now that is this guy should not be thought of 878 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: as a franchise level player. He got no chance. He 879 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 1: got ten starts on a terrible team, and we'll get 880 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: a fresh start somewhere else. I'm just wondering where it 881 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: will be. Rap Sheet reported today for what it's worth, 882 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: that something that makes sense logically that the Cardinals might 883 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: not be in a rush to trade him, because what's 884 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 1: the what's wrong with having both of these players Kyler 885 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: Murray the presumed number one pick and Josh Rosen on 886 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: the roster and see how it all plays out. And 887 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: we've said that because I think the thing is, it's 888 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: not that you're gonna go into the season with both 889 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: on your roster. But wait till utter apocalyptic calamity strikes 890 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: another team and then Josh Rosen's asking price gets you 891 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: a bounty that it could work out that way, and 892 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: even if that doesn't happen, Josh Rosen, the way the 893 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: rookie pay scale is, it's not an outrageous cost having 894 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: him on the roster at this point and you have 895 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: two guys you could potentially count on. I just think 896 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: it's tough though, for them because they have so many needs, 897 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: like so many pressing needs, and the draft because it's 898 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: so defensive heavy with like really good guys. I just 899 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll have the patience to to 900 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of have Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen. You made 901 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: the picks, now, yeah, that's fair. All Greg, close us out. 902 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: I want to give a pep talk. Two guy hope 903 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: is not listening and stopped listening to our podcast because 904 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: he you know, when he's mentioned on this podcast, he's 905 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 1: often an object of derision. And his name is Andy Dalton. 906 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't go on somewhere else, but go ahead. I mean, 907 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: I want to know who you thought it was. Well, 908 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: bleep this out. Okay, that's exactly what I thought. I 909 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: thought that worked. Okay, Okay, cut that out. I'm afraid. 910 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm afraid of that man. Um. Andy Dalton is a 911 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: guy who, at this point in his career we because 912 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: of us. Partly, he is synonymous with mediocrit. He is 913 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: synonymous with the prime meridian, with the very most average 914 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: starting quarterback that you can possibly be. But I say, 915 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,439 Speaker 1: put your back up, put your put your bows out. 916 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what you do when you're when you're well, 917 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: blow up and look around first of all, this room 918 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: and everyone that talks a little bit about Andy Dalton, 919 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: what did they ever accomplished in their life? How about 920 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: go about on the athletic field. Please, This is a 921 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the NFL who has made money for 922 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 1: generations of Dalton to come. How about go back and 923 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: look at the two thousand and eleven draft and what 924 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: everyone said about Andy Dalton back then and who had 925 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: the higher ceiling like superstars like Jake Locker and uh 926 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: Christian Ponder and blame Gabbert. How are they doing. You've 927 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: had an incredible career for a second round draft pick. 928 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 1: You've started about as many games as as any starting 929 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: quarterback over this decade, and your solid, and you can 930 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: be better. And this is the pep Doc. You're thirty 931 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: one years old. This is the age where a lot 932 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks start getting smarter, they start getting better, and 933 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: maybe they just catch a little lightning and bottle and 934 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: get lucky with some support around them, and then they 935 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: start winning. And you've got some support. You've got a 936 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: j Green, a future Hall of Famer, is still in 937 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: the middle of his prime. You've got Joe Mixon, who 938 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: I think is gonna be an outstanding starting running back. 939 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: You've got Tyler Boyd, a terrific slot receiver. Your offensive 940 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: line is better than it's been for a while. And 941 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: most importantly, you've got Zach Taylor. You've got a breath 942 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: of fresh air on offense that can give you a chance. 943 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,760 Speaker 1: And that's all we're looking for. His career Andy Dalton, 944 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: your career is yet to be written. I don't think 945 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: you have to be a mediocre quarterback forever. I don't 946 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: think you have to listen to Chris Wesley say that 947 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals never win playoff games. All streaks on the internet, 948 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: all streaks must end at some point. And Andy Dalton, 949 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 1: you're good enough to have a good second half of 950 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: your career. You can do it. I like that you 951 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: lost your way a little bit there when you wanted 952 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 1: to settle some grudges, take some shots at the people 953 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: in this room and the quarterbacks in his draft classes. 954 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: But eventually you got back to speaking to Andy Dalton. 955 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 1: I I think he should. He should be confident, and 956 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,240 Speaker 1: he should realize he's had a credible career as starting 957 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: quarterbacks go. He's in the top twenty percent of all 958 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 1: quarterbacks drafted after you know, pretty much period. He's had 959 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,439 Speaker 1: a good career. He's had a good career. He's really 960 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: into this. Let me ask you this. Let's say that 961 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady retired today and the Patriots had Andy Dalton 962 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,879 Speaker 1: as their quarterback. Would you, the Patriots fan be as 963 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: excited as you are? Greg the commentator replacing the all 964 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: time greatest quarter I'm just saying this, if he's had, 965 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 1: if he's been would you would you what would happen? 966 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,439 Speaker 1: I would? I think that they would have a chance 967 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: to win some playoff games. All right, how about this? 968 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: How about this? I'll give you the choice right now, 969 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,879 Speaker 1: the last two players we talked about, would you rather 970 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: have Josh Rosen or Andy Dalton for the next five years? 971 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: I would take Rosen, but I liked Rosen better than 972 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 1: any quarterback in that draft. That's not looking too good 973 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: right now. But I'm not going to give up on 974 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: that after one year. So you're gonna you liked potential 975 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: over what I would. Who just had has had an 976 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: incredible career. I'm saying as a use that word as 977 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: a as a professional. Yes, I think any NFL player 978 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: that last ten years essentially has had an incredible career 979 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: because the odds are one of these PEP talks. No, 980 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean it. Everybody who plays professional sports is a 981 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: great We know we're all beautiful. That's not what I mean. 982 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean as someone that stays as a starter. If 983 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: you if someone had a career at a different position, 984 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: let's say running back, cornerback, linebacker, and it was similar 985 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: to Andy Dalton. He would be beloved because he's a 986 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: solid above average starter for that sort of time and 987 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: that sort of durability, and he has done better than 988 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: people expected. I mean, look at all those look at 989 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,439 Speaker 1: those guys that that were drafted in front of him, 990 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: and he just needs a few little breaks along the way, 991 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: a little more support. All right. I like it, Greg, 992 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: I've always liked Dalton. Here, Um, we can he can 993 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: start speaking about Dandy Dalton in a more positive way 994 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: going forward if you'd like, you know, we could stick 995 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: a pin in it, because it was right around the 996 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: corner one of our favorite shows every year, the Dalton Scale. 997 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: We figured out who is the primer Ridian and Andy. 998 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: I believe Andy last year found his way right back 999 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,760 Speaker 1: into the center of the football world in terms of 1000 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,959 Speaker 1: the fringe line between mediocre talent and franchise starter. Will 1001 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: he stay there? We shall see, Um, Connie, I mean, 1002 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: what can I say? The tiny box she comes in, 1003 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: she's professional, she nails it. She does a windmill reverse 1004 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,760 Speaker 1: three sixty dunk on the New York Giants and their fans. 1005 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,240 Speaker 1: On behalf, we got Bryce Harper doing giant bat bat 1006 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: flips on their arrival. It's good to be Philadelphia's own 1007 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf. It ain't bad. When do we get you 1008 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: back on the show, because we gotta squeeze you in 1009 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: between your globe trotting whenever? Are you here? Next? Not 1010 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: available available until July about. I was gonna say Wednesdays 1011 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,879 Speaker 1: with Connie, but I think next week and it would 1012 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,760 Speaker 1: be a Thursday show. Really, will you join us next Thursday? Alright? 1013 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: It was wait, hold on, you guys got to talk 1014 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: to my people. Yeah, well my camp, Ricky, Hollywood. But 1015 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 1: is it on your radar that we might have Colleen 1016 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: back to back weeks? Which is something the broad the 1017 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 1: broadcast has never had in its entire nearly year long run. 1018 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 1: What do you want to do right now? I'm there 1019 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: in spirit every week, all right. I mean there's something 1020 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: to be said for varying your little more uncomfortable than 1021 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: I thought it would, Ricky, need you your bat naith. 1022 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,439 Speaker 1: You're protecting me in the lineup. You're playing left center field. 1023 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: You got a new glove. I'm excited. I can't wait 1024 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: to see on the field. West actually West and I 1025 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: it's so great to have my consigliary West back. The 1026 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 1: Don Zimmer to my Joe Tor and West said that 1027 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: what is the number one thing you're looking forward to seeing? Uh? 1028 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: Tonight on the field, West, can you catch a fly ball? 1029 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: We'll say, oh, I went have to come and heckle 1030 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: you guys. That's great, I say you can. You're a 1031 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: college athlete. Of course you course you can catch a flyball. 1032 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: But it's not always a given. It depends if it's way. 1033 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: I'm a little short, so if I don't time it right, 1034 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: it could be uh first step always back, not forward exactly. 1035 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: But I'm quick, so I think we'll be all right. 1036 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 1: And don't worry. It's gonna take all of us probably 1037 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: a few weeks to get going, so not too much pressure. Yeah. 1038 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 1: I actually Eric would be like, can West catch a groundball? Please? 1039 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: Not a pressure on everyone? As the shield hashtag defend 1040 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: the dynasty. Let's go boys, and and and Mark. We're 1041 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: in talks. Got to get you back in the front office, 1042 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 1: even in a like you know how castily they get 1043 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: in an unpaid way. The way my last role was yes, 1044 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: well when you spend it, David Eally the first year, 1045 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: it really set the tone for the whole year. Thank 1046 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: you for remembering. Yes, It was it really brought the 1047 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: team together. It's it's the only thing I did the 1048 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 1: entire season and vaguely effective. I would I would say 1049 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: maybe wait to three weeks than suspend David Elega. Doesn't 1050 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 1: really matter what happens, just everyone can get behind it. 1051 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: And I mean you guys, I wouldn't mind you. I 1052 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: think the other thing that GM is like when you 1053 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: had a rowdy, you know, group of mixtresses that went 1054 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 1: out and got hammered on whatever it was starting. You 1055 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: don't need that stuff to happen. That's where you need 1056 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: someone in the front office who's desensitized all that. And 1057 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: you're also not the defending champions. Did you say desensitized 1058 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: to all this? Like to like, oh, we're the champions. 1059 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: Were so awesome. It's like, no, you're not. You're not 1060 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: even the champions. Someone else out there, one of these 1061 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: other mom and pop operations are the champions. That's the title. 1062 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: When well, we're gonna need a couple of scouting reports 1063 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: from Mark two on everybody. Well, but we knew well 1064 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: that that's questioning some of these comments. He's mad about 1065 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: the dynasty. We're in the pep Talk episode. I'm telling 1066 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: you you're not the champion. Go become the champion again. 1067 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: I believe and I believe you can. We are recognized 1068 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: as the champions, even if it's only in our own 1069 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 1: minds and in this studio that alright, alright, let's go then, 1070 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: hands is signing off. Four quiet storm, the mailman Connie 1071 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:02,959 Speaker 1: Fox return right, the old boss of Ricky Hollywood behind 1072 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: the glass. Let's go, Hm,