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Speaker 1: to my partner all the time because when we started
Speaker 1: the show, we said we wanted a cover of legends.
Speaker 1: We wanted to cover people who've been out here sacrificing,
Speaker 1: putting the culture first, putting the culture on their back.
Speaker 1: When used to think of this man, he's a part
Speaker 1: of one of the most legendary families in the hip
Speaker 1: I land, part of one of the most legendary groups
Speaker 1: of hip hop. He got about three different careers is amazing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think it's more he
Speaker 1: might be he's like seven. He might be seven. Um,
Speaker 1: but you just look at all the diversity he has done.
Speaker 1: You look at how he's he's out here relevant in
Speaker 1: so many different worlds, from touring for with Lightning Ritchie
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying, to recording with DJ
Speaker 1: College the other day. When I was there, I actually
Speaker 1: got the witness. If you don't know what the funk
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, we're talking about the legendary. Now. We
Speaker 1: want to take it from the beginning because you, um,
Speaker 1: you guys are part of the rich history of the South.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying not only just ANTL. I want
Speaker 1: to I want to broaden the view because at first
Speaker 1: I was coming from New York. Um, we looked at
Speaker 1: the South and really like Miami at the forefront because
Speaker 1: of you know you guys, and like Uncle Luke was doing.
Speaker 1: So let's take it from the beginning. How how did
Speaker 1: you get started? Just in the music period, it's a
Speaker 1: good mob before Dungeon family or Dungeon family, then Goody Mob. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: initially we we we considered everyone in the Goody Moody
Speaker 1: was it was a street name, um uh from yeah,
Speaker 1: I knowld you from our neighborhood. His name is Big Glynn.
Speaker 1: We call him Big Duddy. He was the one that
Speaker 1: coined that the name Goody Mob. So it was a crew.
Speaker 1: Uh Coojo was a part of that crew. So what
Speaker 1: they would do was, you know, put their goods in
Speaker 1: the um the Crown Royal bags, a little purple bag
Speaker 1: that was like they flavored what of them? And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it was you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it was like goodie bags. So they call him up
Speaker 1: to pepon Goody Mob. So I got got, so, I got,
Speaker 1: I gotta credit them, and I'm saying like as the
Speaker 1: original of the name, you know. And then that that
Speaker 1: eventually evolved over into uh the art the art form
Speaker 1: you know, um of where Cool Joe and Timo from
Speaker 1: Goody Mob. They began as a as a local group
Speaker 1: called the Numberjacks, you know what I'm saying, and the
Speaker 1: gift Big gilt Uh. He was a part of another
Speaker 1: crew called the East Point Train Gang, including uh Cool Breeze.
Speaker 1: So Cool Breeze is a gentleman that coin the friends
Speaker 1: Dirty South you know, what I'm saying. So when you
Speaker 1: when you look for anybody, for anybody is the first one.
Speaker 1: So when you when you when you look at history
Speaker 1: of you, if you go back, Uh, that Soul Food album,
Speaker 1: it was kind of broken up into into into working parts.
Speaker 1: Uh Lumberjacks could not put any of their prior recorded
Speaker 1: music on that album because they were going through the
Speaker 1: gations with former management. I was a solo artist, uh
Speaker 1: you know, singer, you know, uh sucking you know, you
Speaker 1: know mc all of that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And um so uh so excuse was kind of really
Speaker 1: a collective. It was collective. It was a collective so
Speaker 1: like it was, it was such a strong entity and
Speaker 1: a strong presence of namesake in the city that you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it was natural for everybody
Speaker 1: to kind of assume it, you know, mean like because
Speaker 1: of the association, you know what I'm saying, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: and everybody was kind of coming from different places, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Andre and Twine, like you know,
Speaker 1: Antoine is is Big Boy's real name. You know, we
Speaker 1: went to let me, let me try, let me try
Speaker 1: to just pace myself. I'm excited to be yeah, because
Speaker 1: I don't know if you smoked it back like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope you don't have to get some of that.
Speaker 1: How you of that because you don't, Um, that's something
Speaker 1: that's something that's a different ship. I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna let me tell you about about you as you
Speaker 1: drink to Killer and you just act normal and ship
Speaker 1: like what was most people drink to killer and then
Speaker 1: be like, you know, they speak slurter, slurter like drink
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Speaker 1: We got the smoke Champs coming out with them very soon. Yes, ye,
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Speaker 1: want to light it to get because I don't remember
Speaker 1: me it's worth fight for goddamn whole goddamn ever sold this.
Speaker 1: It was great. I don't know if you beat that.
Speaker 1: Just get just that vanilla. I'm gonna try to say that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you another plate with you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Also pick up to shine.
Speaker 1: We got you know, smoking out of those right now.
Speaker 1: But listen, where were we that? Okay, so let's go
Speaker 1: back okay, um, so wait so really quick just from
Speaker 1: my knowledge because I'm a big fan of everything y'all done,
Speaker 1: so goody Morvis. Before Dungeon Family all happened at the
Speaker 1: same time. It was all happening at the same time.
Speaker 1: Uh almost you know, pretty much simultaneously, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like overanized noise. Rico Wade, Sleepy Brown, Ray Murray, Uh,
Speaker 1: Sleepy Brown and and Rico Wade were part of a
Speaker 1: dance troupe called Guests. See back then, Um, the sensation
Speaker 1: in the city was talent shows. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that it was. It was really like real old school.
Speaker 1: This was before gun play and all of that. So
Speaker 1: it was talent shows and it was and it was
Speaker 1: rival high schools and big cart fights. So we went
Speaker 1: to May's high bench when he made his high school
Speaker 1: and I would rival high school was was Douglass High
Speaker 1: Fresher Duglas High. So like you know, after the football
Speaker 1: game or whatever. It saying like it would be like
Speaker 1: the movie outside Us. So like a real real old
Speaker 1: fashional round boat type ship. So they went from that.
Speaker 1: From so Rico Wait and Sleeper Brown they were they
Speaker 1: were they were like you know, neighborhood that get old
Speaker 1: superstar for being dancers. And then they eventually, you know,
Speaker 1: like one of your production I actually got one of
Speaker 1: the original Dungeon families first, you know, uh kawan, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: getto Vision, Discovered tea, all of that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But anyway, it's so much to the story.
Speaker 1: The Dungeon family house, right the house a legendary house.
Speaker 1: Is that where all the music started from because the
Speaker 1: big big boy just buying that house or something like that.
Speaker 1: Big Budget's recently purchased the house and it's it's being
Speaker 1: completely overdone and renovated. And you know, we were kind
Speaker 1: of like in the talks with another little upstart company
Speaker 1: that's doing it's called Hip Hop Tools of Atlanta. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I'm not sure that the business is gonna
Speaker 1: work out, but they were doing tours, you know, so
Speaker 1: just trying to keep it like like monuments. Doesn't anybody
Speaker 1: he was going to try to up as a monument
Speaker 1: talking about our coming like the king there or something like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't even think of that, that's all. So so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying. I'm gonna try to fast forward, trying
Speaker 1: to make it actually make it actually I'm ass up
Speaker 1: because what I really meant was was organized noise before God,
Speaker 1: That's really what I meant. The organized noise of the
Speaker 1: producer production comes from the production crew. Okay, people knew them,
Speaker 1: but there was it's because they were dancers. They were
Speaker 1: part of a dance group called guess you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So there was like they were like damn,
Speaker 1: it was like you know what I mean. So there
Speaker 1: was dancers and that was the thing, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like if you could dance, you could dress,
Speaker 1: and you can fight. That was even more play sports
Speaker 1: or whatever. Let me bounce around for a little bit.
Speaker 1: So what something kind of listic playlistic comes out. That
Speaker 1: was that like the first gym with like now now
Speaker 1: the South is being viewed or it still was like
Speaker 1: hard after that because like explained like for us queens
Speaker 1: was having a hard time right, But where NAS came
Speaker 1: out with Allmatic for those couple of years, it was
Speaker 1: like it was cool because people it's like you pulled
Speaker 1: our something me from being from Miami. Like we had
Speaker 1: this thing where we wanted to represent ourselves lyrically out
Speaker 1: of Miami hip hop ship. So we had like an
Speaker 1: artists named Mother Superio. She got shoved by Alan music
Speaker 1: had different artists and we could never really represent ourselves lyrically,
Speaker 1: and I felt like outcast. That album was that for
Speaker 1: for Atlanta? I mean, that's what it looked like to me.
Speaker 1: But see we there was the time with the Atlanta
Speaker 1: what they called Atlanta a little Miami, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So with the MC shot is the Groucci
Speaker 1: cruise hold that we had that synergy between each other,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like so we we you know,
Speaker 1: even I didn't even do it, yeah, you know, just
Speaker 1: for Ricky still have so I think, like we we're
Speaker 1: not gonna be midway point, you know, literally between Florida
Speaker 1: the bottom of it, you know, and we called the bottom,
Speaker 1: right I'm saying. So we had we we were, we
Speaker 1: had both of the influences. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: That it's a trip how comes back around full circle
Speaker 1: because you know what what was electro pop or whatever
Speaker 1: whatever it was considered? What when African ban body and soul?
Speaker 1: So the force did it basically ultimately we called it
Speaker 1: skating rink music, you know what, like and then it
Speaker 1: ultimately evolved into Miami. Bas So it's kind of really
Speaker 1: all of the same, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: but lyrically, you know, we we were I mean obviously
Speaker 1: man like you know, affected and inspired by by East
Speaker 1: Coast and in raw boom back East Coast hip hop,
Speaker 1: and what I'm saying so lyrically, I'm glad that you
Speaker 1: said that because we I know I'm speaking for myself,
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of us really felt like
Speaker 1: our first wants to truly represent lyrically was either eight
Speaker 1: Ball and m j G out of Memphis and Poison
Speaker 1: Clan like yes, yes yourself before Devin Air, Devin and
Speaker 1: J Money, and then we did a group called Home
Speaker 1: Team as well. Boy. Yeah, so they came out before Outcast,
Speaker 1: Yeah damn at the same time, what year is that
Speaker 1: they're fighters? Where we one? I think you're before that,
Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about like on mggcast four okay,
Speaker 1: Letting four okay and Egg okay, damn bro always there.
Speaker 1: I came up the same time. So you say, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, because for me, that that's what I looked
Speaker 1: at when I seen that that I and even it
Speaker 1: was crazy, but I was even seeing that pup that
Speaker 1: he directed that first Outcast video. I don't even know
Speaker 1: wa man, Yeah back, what did he go? Yeah? The
Speaker 1: first outcast video ever like produced ever. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: I was about who Puffy directed players ball? Yeah, guy,
Speaker 1: you lived. You're not I kid, You're not like you.
Speaker 1: I forget. It's a document that's on the face. Rights
Speaker 1: that's on the face. It was the face that it was.
Speaker 1: It was mentioned on the Oganized Modest documentary The Art
Speaker 1: of Obanized nowers on Netflix. Watch. It was an amazing
Speaker 1: to catch that. Yeah, cardy brain because the history on
Speaker 1: their but it's it's nowhere near the whole story though,
Speaker 1: so like I mean, there's very few people in this
Speaker 1: rat game that have so many like oh like like
Speaker 1: like elements to them, Like when it comes to the crew,
Speaker 1: like you guys gotta kill them, Mike, you guys got
Speaker 1: sucking you guys, it's so many. It's like the would
Speaker 1: tang on the side. It's just about to say that,
Speaker 1: I was about to say that, but it's you. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see the woul tang because because we'll
Speaker 1: take is just nine. What do they call him when
Speaker 1: it's all on the number, Who help me? Separate elements?
Speaker 1: Feel like it's killing a man brain, It's like the
Speaker 1: same to me, that's what they were. Dudgeon family was
Speaker 1: that to us in the South? To me, how does
Speaker 1: it take them as a compliment? Didn't you say did
Speaker 1: you know that everyone would would essentially be stars when
Speaker 1: your guys was coming up or not necessarily? Um? I
Speaker 1: felt that, Um, as far as that Nana was concerned,
Speaker 1: we were the most um authentic you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: incredible with that that first offer in Southern playlists contact
Speaker 1: music without cares, I mean, because you know the you know,
Speaker 1: and this is not to discredit those who came before
Speaker 1: us where they to be criss cross the rest of
Speaker 1: development of Brad you know what I mean? Like shot
Speaker 1: all right, I'm saying you feel me like it's all
Speaker 1: relative and I'm saying like, um, but as far as
Speaker 1: row rap and lyricism, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: just showing that that that range, you know, you know
Speaker 1: we would we would have first know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I felt like it was like the cold question brothers
Speaker 1: like the South, you know, girls bounce around the little bit. Now.
Speaker 1: I think last year or the year before, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure you had a video that went viral like that.
Speaker 1: He was on the phone right, and everyone was like,
Speaker 1: what the fun is going home? Studio? He was calling you.
Speaker 1: I had six different numbers on you. Everyone. It didn't work,
Speaker 1: Like everyone like what exactly happened to the people that
Speaker 1: that that didn't see your explanation? All right? I was
Speaker 1: I was working on an independent project and it was
Speaker 1: meant to be kind of like a mix tape or
Speaker 1: an EP, you know, kind of kind of kind of
Speaker 1: thing of where it was to be held held over
Speaker 1: until we could finish the novels Rockley Record, because we
Speaker 1: was having schedule of differences. So I called it Gnarlie Davidson, right,
Speaker 1: So it was a part of it. And I said, okay, um,
Speaker 1: around the time, it was the Samsung phones and that
Speaker 1: was a real thing. It was a real issue with people, right,
Speaker 1: but it was a current event. So I said, okay,
Speaker 1: let me try to pull from that. And it's like,
Speaker 1: how do how do these superhero it has come about,
Speaker 1: you know, by with some type of trauma, something traumatic happens.
Speaker 1: What I mean, like you know, you know, you get
Speaker 1: hit with a Gamma ray, you get big bout spite
Speaker 1: or whatever happened. And I'm saying so like I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, so let's use this real life thing and
Speaker 1: make and make the video where it's believable for that,
Speaker 1: for that that have a long we can catch it
Speaker 1: out and then dropped and dropped the project because because
Speaker 1: they played out of order. What when I was sending
Speaker 1: it to the special effects people's we was going through passes, okay,
Speaker 1: like turn the smoke up on this, so like that,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. We was just kind of
Speaker 1: color correcting and all that kind of stuff, and one
Speaker 1: of them leaked, like in one of the emails leak,
Speaker 1: so you know, um, some some blogs and HTM got
Speaker 1: hold to it and to like and blast it off
Speaker 1: with it. So initially because it's meant that I'm thinking
Speaker 1: I'm doing something, it's a stunt out of just I'm
Speaker 1: thinking it's gonna be funny to people. I'm thinking they're
Speaker 1: gonna know what's ridiculous. Is going like okay, great, but no,
Speaker 1: no people will. So you gotta understand, bro, it's a
Speaker 1: difference between hearing something happened to your people, see right,
Speaker 1: So with that, man, it was funny for the first
Speaker 1: little while, but my phone was only like so I
Speaker 1: got I got a phone calls from everybody from ice
Speaker 1: Cube to the Minnster Lowis Fradka was Sam something worried
Speaker 1: because that's for everybody. Anybody's like to get the right now,
Speaker 1: like like oh yeah, that's man. Then want nothing to
Speaker 1: do something like you said, it wasn't all pH So
Speaker 1: that's what happened, man. So that was Christmas time, uh
Speaker 1: that whatever year that was, I think it was like
Speaker 1: a year or so ago. And then the Grammys didn't
Speaker 1: play out until that following February. So what it was
Speaker 1: meant to do was to hit the Friday of the Grammys,
Speaker 1: you know what, Like I go to the red carpet
Speaker 1: and boom. I don't know if you saw the other
Speaker 1: stunt I did where I went and I crashed the
Speaker 1: like I got transforming from other work. But can I
Speaker 1: tell your a dopes some dope about that. The whole thing.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out because, like you know what, the
Speaker 1: time elapsed to me, like and people just really didn't
Speaker 1: take too well to being you know, you know, like
Speaker 1: along in that kind of way, like people really And
Speaker 1: the funny thing about it is I got a chance
Speaker 1: to see how much love I had out That's for
Speaker 1: sure what I'm saying but the project didn't work. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, you know, but what was dope about it?
Speaker 1: The research was so you know what I mean, it
Speaker 1: works so well, you know as far as coverage. Um
Speaker 1: nor the only one who ain't seeing it. I got
Speaker 1: that that it works so well with as far as coverage.
Speaker 1: Marvel Comics reached out to me and we said, we
Speaker 1: said down with it. Yeah, we sat down with their
Speaker 1: with their JV division, and we had to create off
Speaker 1: of that character. They wanted to make it an official
Speaker 1: Marvel comic. If the ship had if the deal had
Speaker 1: it went right, I would have been on endgame. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I'll tell you what happened.
Speaker 1: It would have been your name the world that the
Speaker 1: name of it was Narlie Davidson. All right, but you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta think Marvel, you gotta take Disney, you gotta
Speaker 1: think Harley Davidson. Nobody would have been that. They probably
Speaker 1: would have had to revive the name. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, um, But you know what they were saying,
Speaker 1: was they I a hero. I want to be smoke
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, smoke smoke villages. I saw me throw
Speaker 1: up soft crowds and smoking ball smoking you might be
Speaker 1: coust baby came it was made out of It's made
Speaker 1: out of burning weed and ship you know what like
Speaker 1: like like you know how like like a smoke beat
Speaker 1: you too? Whatever he got smoke a lot. He got
Speaker 1: spoke a lot was the wrapper. He wasn't a superhero
Speaker 1: in half bag. But I'm gonna be think like like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just walk in. It's gonna be and then
Speaker 1: like my cake gonna you burning like people want big
Speaker 1: them on fire all the time. I'm but it's just
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that's crazy that you could have been.
Speaker 1: But what they were saying was it would have been
Speaker 1: historic because it would have been the first of where
Speaker 1: a character was based on a real living beings. But
Speaker 1: the trick to that is living beings, you know, prone
Speaker 1: to liability. And know what I'm saying, you people so
Speaker 1: like you know, they you know it's not infoliable, so
Speaker 1: they couldn't do They don't want to risk it. You
Speaker 1: like the mcgallo. I've just been seeing the mcgallowa dogs.
Speaker 1: But not to be totally honest, I'm a little I'm
Speaker 1: a little ignorant and wouldn't actually on the origin of
Speaker 1: a where it comes from? Yea, I would have been
Speaker 1: seen in the last few years. It's like Holliway party
Speaker 1: for the yeah yeah. But because I love to see people,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like be fly and the
Speaker 1: individuals and and you know, like you know fashion of
Speaker 1: course is it's a fashion that the art so y'all know.
Speaker 1: I like when a wild ship too, So like I'd
Speaker 1: like to see people do their thing? How did you
Speaker 1: develop that? That's what that's my next question is because
Speaker 1: when you look at the origin from me where you
Speaker 1: outcast Goody move Dungeon family in general, guys are from
Speaker 1: the hood. You guys are from them the deep deeps
Speaker 1: out guys from them. What you guys have the ability
Speaker 1: to make music that brings you to these other genres
Speaker 1: and you're able to to mix with those other crowds.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, like, how did you
Speaker 1: develop that? Well? To be totally honest, man, like the
Speaker 1: my my my personal taste. The first thing I ever
Speaker 1: loved was rock and roll and heavy metal. That's you
Speaker 1: know same here. I I love rocking roll. I talked
Speaker 1: about it on drink Chairs before, like Iron made it
Speaker 1: and coming out, coming out, coming out. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: started with Iron Maiding because Bruce Jakerson is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite ARTI sakers favorite front Bruce Jakinson, Ronnie James Deal,
Speaker 1: you know, um Rob Halford from Judas Priest. Yeah, we met,
Speaker 1: We got the same management. I'm friends with all my
Speaker 1: rock but hip hop tris to be scared to talk
Speaker 1: about this. I don't know. I like pet Floyd, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course that's funny. Man. I got a friend of
Speaker 1: mine who was at the sono with me in the
Speaker 1: building and he showed me a clipper when he was
Speaker 1: sound checking. I don't know how he got this access,
Speaker 1: but David Gilmore, you know, was sound checking and he
Speaker 1: was playing crazy. I'm saying, so I I just got
Speaker 1: to do that. I played for you after to answer
Speaker 1: your question, you know what I mean. Like GiB had
Speaker 1: a good answer to Like. Another thing that was big
Speaker 1: for us when we was kids in Atlanta was wrestling,
Speaker 1: so like you know, um, like it's a couple of um.
Speaker 1: I love the Road Warriors, the British Bulldogs or Road Warrior,
Speaker 1: Ultimate Warrior, Groldwards, it was Animal and Hulk. Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So what I'm rick play of course.
Speaker 1: So what I'm basically saying is that costume in that
Speaker 1: pageant tree like I mean like it was kind of normal,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then you know, um,
Speaker 1: but and then me on the soulfa side, big band side,
Speaker 1: earth Win didn't fire, not liking those people put so
Speaker 1: much into the presentation, you know what I'm saying. So, um,
Speaker 1: I thought that that was you know that I felt
Speaker 1: like that was a standard and I mean like you know,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, um, and when you
Speaker 1: speak to you in such a way, I felt like
Speaker 1: it belonged to me in order to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: carry you on a tradition and you know, as an artist. Right.
Speaker 1: So then George Clinton christened us the Young Parliament Fadulic.
Speaker 1: So that's really the bottom line. He was like yo,
Speaker 1: y'all of us. I mean like he acidly just like
Speaker 1: everything A lot of drugs. That's kind of super am
Speaker 1: I saying that? Right? I think you so that, like
Speaker 1: I want to say at all, I mean because I
Speaker 1: was looking at your line and I and people was like,
Speaker 1: oh ship about them, Like Nick, It's like, yo, a
Speaker 1: bunch of dope questions. I said, Damn, I want to
Speaker 1: make sure I know. One of the eldest questions that
Speaker 1: people keep asking was how did it feel to be
Speaker 1: a singer in the group? And then then another question
Speaker 1: and asked was wrapping wise, did you feel you as
Speaker 1: better than I don't know why, but that Cressy came
Speaker 1: up so much like like like I would imagine competition wise,
Speaker 1: you guys are truing teas you would feel you're better
Speaker 1: than the next one. To be totally honest, I felt
Speaker 1: like we were. We we also called ourselves the x
Speaker 1: men and I mean so allectively. Yeah, we we did.
Speaker 1: We did a g Q photo spread as the x
Speaker 1: men um. And that's to say that everybody is signified
Speaker 1: by their own special and unique power. Now I made
Speaker 1: up some ship. I was whoever it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: but I was powerful now but now so like it
Speaker 1: wasn't that kind of competition. We felt like we were
Speaker 1: we were supporting each other, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it was a real family vibe. Me and dre
Speaker 1: Go all the way back to the third grade. Man,
Speaker 1: like we are a lot of us, A few of
Speaker 1: us know each other longer, like that's probably one of
Speaker 1: the longer relationships in the entire Dunge family. But then again,
Speaker 1: I grew with Timo. He's a little bit of us,
Speaker 1: strewed over from me, and I'm saying, like he's three
Speaker 1: years older than me. But you know, he graduated with
Speaker 1: my sister Saw. I had always seen him, you know,
Speaker 1: all my whole life, you know, but no, man like,
Speaker 1: it was never that kind of competition. But you know,
Speaker 1: I will say this for the record, killing Mike if
Speaker 1: we mentioned him, and he's a he's a a real
Speaker 1: grand I'm seeing my opinion and I'm saying that you're
Speaker 1: feeling a lot of people's opinions. Great person over all around.
Speaker 1: But um he said in the g Q interview that
Speaker 1: he thought I was the best side of the Dungeon family.
Speaker 1: Did you know that, KP. Yeah, he said that. So
Speaker 1: that's saim we have probably at the end of you
Speaker 1: asked him. But I never thought like that. I just
Speaker 1: when I think about family, when I think about crew,
Speaker 1: I just come to play my position, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you played to my strength, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, so I'm just going to be
Speaker 1: a soldier for it. That's it. So the second part
Speaker 1: of the question they asked this was the most question,
Speaker 1: is how did it feel to be like a singer
Speaker 1: like slash R and B or Arts. But I asking
Speaker 1: this because it was the most repeated I know that
Speaker 1: you're motherfucking r care mother. Yeah, I think that's well,
Speaker 1: I know, I just wanted I mean, it was the
Speaker 1: most asked question. I actually literally looked at all my garments,
Speaker 1: so I just gotta ask it. How did it feel
Speaker 1: to be a singer in the Cruel MCS? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wasn't MC and the Crewe MCS, you know, so they
Speaker 1: just got to go back and do the history obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, but I think it's I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know what, you would have realized that
Speaker 1: that everybody's got metal, everybody could sing like dre ended up,
Speaker 1: you know, spreading his wings and a lot of the
Speaker 1: times when we performed like you know, let Mena tell
Speaker 1: you something like I've been That's been a part of
Speaker 1: my repertoire from the beginning, like even from UTFO, you know,
Speaker 1: forcing D's you know what I mean, dude, she was
Speaker 1: kidding you my body, so you know you got how
Speaker 1: you got them? High school Sweetheart songs like it was
Speaker 1: a song by ut Phone called Fairytale Level yea that
Speaker 1: record man, Yeah, you know so it was that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. It was new edition. It was all so
Speaker 1: like a girl that I swei, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I still think I'm realized, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But now like so all of that, I'm referencing all
Speaker 1: that to say, it's all just you know, uh and acknowledgement.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you feel me. I just say, man like
Speaker 1: if you got if you got an you man, just
Speaker 1: do what you can. I'm saying, you feel me. Um,
Speaker 1: you know so I felt I felt very natural thought
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I asked how people
Speaker 1: do it so well? And so you know so um
Speaker 1: far before me. Scott recently sampled you right travel Scott
Speaker 1: in the Travis E. Sample sell Therapy, one of the
Speaker 1: craziest records ever, super classic and hip hop. You're just
Speaker 1: about to say something. You know, this is a thing
Speaker 1: like I feel like and I don't think that you
Speaker 1: can relate to this being from you excub me all
Speaker 1: the time, like coming out of the South and trying
Speaker 1: to do the lyrical route. Did you, because this is
Speaker 1: the thing that always rings to me is when Outcast
Speaker 1: was at the source of awards saying what they said
Speaker 1: about the South, the South has something set right? Did
Speaker 1: you y'all come with that? Like when y'all were in
Speaker 1: the studio, were all thinking about like we're gonna represent
Speaker 1: lyrically or was it as natural? Like what was it?
Speaker 1: What was the mind frame y'all in the booth? I
Speaker 1: think naturally, when you're a fan, you kind of liking
Speaker 1: yourself to your favorite you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: and you kind of you kind of grow up. I
Speaker 1: mean like you know, or you or you you you
Speaker 1: live like obiously through you know, you know I mean
Speaker 1: like you trained spark. Let mean, like you know, like
Speaker 1: what you're listening Palette, you know, I mean, if you will,
Speaker 1: so you know, we was just taught by the best,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you know my you know,
Speaker 1: my favorite see of all time is Mellie mel You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. His rhyme at the end of
Speaker 1: the Street is the best rhyme ever written in history
Speaker 1: and Mellie Mell beating Nigga asked, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Gangsters like we need on the podcast let me it's
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Bronx man life with spikes
Speaker 1: on another I wasn't that just spoke to me, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's something that that in hip hoply. You know,
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, a lot of the artists
Speaker 1: been dressing like, you know, a little weird. And I've
Speaker 1: removing myself from comment in because I remember those days
Speaker 1: Mellie mel and these guys with the spikes and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying type chokers like I feel like outcast.
Speaker 1: And Andre specifically, I was doing that and he I
Speaker 1: remember it was an interview I don't know somewhere where
Speaker 1: he said, I'm just mimicking. Uh, he say, wants to
Speaker 1: look like the music. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That makes sense man.
Speaker 1: You know, um, I don't know. It's it's it's entertainment man.
Speaker 1: It's just really like all for fun. Like I said,
Speaker 1: if you gotta na man, you definitely should go for it,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, like I I didn't think it
Speaker 1: would have spoke to me in that way if if
Speaker 1: it didn't feel natural to me like I mean, like
Speaker 1: it would it would have never spoke to me. But
Speaker 1: you say, it's entertained. But Goody Mob's material was very
Speaker 1: serious about like, yeah, we're talking to things that today
Speaker 1: on Donald Trump's eerra we could relate back to to
Speaker 1: that album. No, you're right, You're right, so first album. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: Like because I was about to say that, you know,
Speaker 1: as a crew, as a large collective, we and and
Speaker 1: coming from what we were coming from, feeling the biased
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Uh, you know I've said
Speaker 1: this on a number of occasions too, of where we
Speaker 1: wanted to distinguish the difference between being Southern and being country.
Speaker 1: You know, like we took country is condescending, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, so like it was, but in
Speaker 1: terms of social politics as well, I mean like we
Speaker 1: felt like we wanted to be counted. We felt like
Speaker 1: we were fighting for the civil rights of southern hip
Speaker 1: hop as well. That's why the narrative was what it was.
Speaker 1: But you know, we but the fashion statement is to
Speaker 1: to flaut them sling, like you know what I mean, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost it's like it's a dad if
Speaker 1: you will. I mean, I like to consider it is
Speaker 1: that because like you know, like you know, we were
Speaker 1: hands on as well. All of that you feel me,
Speaker 1: So let's describe, Um, you're part of goody Mall. It's uh,
Speaker 1: guys are because I don't know. There's so many shows
Speaker 1: where people they want to give people their flowers after
Speaker 1: they they can't smother. We want to give all people.
Speaker 1: There should be no way shapeful fashion. And I can't
Speaker 1: tell you how much I appreciate you to your face.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Bro. Let's say, bro, we're a fan. We'd
Speaker 1: be a fan of youth at all. Seventeen of your
Speaker 1: career is like at Jamaican we are we are part
Speaker 1: of you. We we support you whether you're there or
Speaker 1: you're not. When you're not around, we speak about you
Speaker 1: highly and we want you to know to your face
Speaker 1: that you're a legend. We meet so much to hip
Speaker 1: hop and we want to tell you to your face.
Speaker 1: I just saw a little it's that water bella rock,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. At So I gonna immediately
Speaker 1: want another one. I'm just gonna throw it. You didn't
Speaker 1: relax immediately want another, so it goes down. It did
Speaker 1: definitely did hit me a little bit later. Okay, So
Speaker 1: it comes to time where you're saying not leave GOODIEMM,
Speaker 1: but you want to step outside. I think you're always
Speaker 1: good him mob though it's y'all can do your different things,
Speaker 1: but you always good h mob. Man. We we just
Speaker 1: got off to right. Yeah, we've been to You can
Speaker 1: describe that moment when you like, because it comes to
Speaker 1: time when you have to step out on your own
Speaker 1: and you and obviously you wanted to do that. Obviously
Speaker 1: the music industry pulled you towards doing that, So so
Speaker 1: can we describe that moment for the people that don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we was gonna we was just having um, sorry to
Speaker 1: cut you off because people from New York we started
Speaker 1: looked at that and see you by yourself at times
Speaker 1: like oh we thought of a describancy. We thought it
Speaker 1: was something that happened, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I probably I'm gonna cut you off as a precursor.
Speaker 1: I feel like you what you did with Nols Barkley
Speaker 1: is a precursor to Run the Jewels and everything that
Speaker 1: came after that. Agree, And so sorry, um no, um,
Speaker 1: let's see kind of can I recall it like it
Speaker 1: was just a real simple, uh difference of professional opinion.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying like and and musical taste at that
Speaker 1: point after we had you know, been very fortunate to
Speaker 1: have three consecutive gold records, you know, just like you
Speaker 1: know the last one. You know, we were really at
Speaker 1: all it's been creatively, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: you know, I was just kind of getting you know,
Speaker 1: a little you know, impatient. I think, you know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you feel me like I felt like I had something
Speaker 1: else that I was capable of, and I mean like,
Speaker 1: but I needed to commit to it. I needed an
Speaker 1: opportunity to and I needed to support dooring. So you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's what I expected. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that that, you know, like it would you know,
Speaker 1: be any kind of discord and I'm sort of disconnect.
Speaker 1: I just thought it would be a testament to our elasticity,
Speaker 1: show how far we could stretch. It's a big word
Speaker 1: with the Bok saying at least I've got to use that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what it means, but I'm no elasticity.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show I won't get somebody because I lasted.
Speaker 1: But so I'm basically saying that to say it really
Speaker 1: wasn't sufference like you know what I mean, Like it
Speaker 1: was just stretched, you know what I mean? And and
Speaker 1: then then you have to see the album, so absolutely,
Speaker 1: and then you know there's growing pain you feel me? Now,
Speaker 1: was there like discripancies on that, like because when you
Speaker 1: did this so album wasn't still on the face or
Speaker 1: was it? Yeah, what happened on the on the paper side,
Speaker 1: on the label side, Um yeah we me and get
Speaker 1: paid both gotten solo deals with the face. Yeah. Well
Speaker 1: actually as a matter of fact, it was when l
Speaker 1: A read What's Up shout out to the Gulf for
Speaker 1: the l all on Um, I think he was just
Speaker 1: making that that that transition over to ANSTA. So you know,
Speaker 1: norm of Jackson was coming more from the grid, so
Speaker 1: which is cool. Join Timo and they wanted to do independently,
Speaker 1: so that was their decision. Hey we just want to
Speaker 1: go independent, you know, Um, you know, gives a motherfucking
Speaker 1: rock star and know what I'm saying, like you know,
Speaker 1: and um, you know he they he definitely had a
Speaker 1: shot because if you think about it, black, I just
Speaker 1: want to buy a bigger single like without without Dre
Speaker 1: and being on it. It's a it's a gift solo song.
Speaker 1: My soul was dirty South without cool breeze on it.
Speaker 1: So everybody was always geared up for Gift to be
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, like you know, like a
Speaker 1: big star, big deal you feel me and represent the Dungeon.
Speaker 1: So with that, I mean like he got a solo shot.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I was the last to really
Speaker 1: kind of blossom at least. But I'm just I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm modest in that. But but but did you like?
Speaker 1: Because you know, because sometimes you know, when you go
Speaker 1: do that, you know that other move and it's successful
Speaker 1: for you, you look as if you like this your brother?
Speaker 1: Are you leaving it? Like? Did you ever like? Because
Speaker 1: because a lot of people, like for instance, with me,
Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't realize Capon was locked up
Speaker 1: when I started my solo thing, So there was so
Speaker 1: many rumors saying, oh, you know, Nori went and he
Speaker 1: did because so many people didn't have Internet, people didn't
Speaker 1: identify that my partner was literally in jail, so to
Speaker 1: the masses, it looked like people in the area. And
Speaker 1: then I got greedy and then I went on home.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see I went through it big time?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? But um, it was really
Speaker 1: all agreeable. Let me like, you know, like initially you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But then the reality does set
Speaker 1: in and you get you know, to a point of
Speaker 1: where you're supplying to the man. You can't be two
Speaker 1: places at one time, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: scheduling was conflicting. I'm saying like we were having some success,
Speaker 1: you know, and we would have some having some defaulted,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you know kind of
Speaker 1: you know, you know, ill ill kind of energy and
Speaker 1: I mean like you know, and it was just something
Speaker 1: that circumstantial. I don't think it was intentional on nobody part.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you feel me, But yeah, we went through it.
Speaker 1: We went through it definitely, you know. And I mean
Speaker 1: I went on to to to you know, to share
Speaker 1: in the success. What I'm saying, you feel me like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like when I was doing
Speaker 1: a whole different crowd, like, yeah, the Danger Amounts project,
Speaker 1: Like how does that happen? Does that happened? It's just
Speaker 1: people are saving PEP we're talking about I was gonna
Speaker 1: see those first. People don't know that Danger Mouse is
Speaker 1: from Atlanta, Okay, I didn't even know, yeah, And I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like people thought that he was some kids I found
Speaker 1: overseas or something like that, you know, but that wasn't
Speaker 1: the case. And I mean, like you know, we did
Speaker 1: we bumped into each other. If this is I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make this story short, you know. So look, we
Speaker 1: was doing we don't mind, because we was doing the
Speaker 1: outcast video showing you g a you know, in Athens, Georgia.
Speaker 1: So um, it was pouring down and I remember this
Speaker 1: day and he had on a hoodie and he gave
Speaker 1: me a CD. The CD was called Pelican City, and
Speaker 1: I'm just referencing it so people can go back and
Speaker 1: do the knowledge, you know, then check it out. When
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you feel me so, but I really didn't
Speaker 1: pay any attention. There was another homeboy in my name,
Speaker 1: Trick from Appens, whose you know, parents had done well.
Speaker 1: He's this oil kid. He wanted to get into you know,
Speaker 1: uh promoting, uh, you know, the hip hop shows. That
Speaker 1: was his first show. And so he brought me back
Speaker 1: down to actors and he actually reintroduced me to Danger.
Speaker 1: So Danger was working on another project with a kid
Speaker 1: named Jim and I called Dames Mess and Jim and I.
Speaker 1: So he said, look, we got in the studio one day.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, um, do do I want you to
Speaker 1: do on you know, on this remix for us? So
Speaker 1: I did the remix and we did the sessions, like
Speaker 1: all right. He said like, yo, do you mind if
Speaker 1: I play you a couple of things? And I was
Speaker 1: like cool. So he played me some. He played me
Speaker 1: this ill ship. So he goes on to play all
Speaker 1: this ill ship that you know, um that big ends
Speaker 1: up becoming sant Uso. But I was just taken by
Speaker 1: it and spoke to me in a real way and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shoot, I said this is I said,
Speaker 1: this is different. I said, like, yo, I want to
Speaker 1: use a couple of days let me do you know,
Speaker 1: then years later I will find out in an interview
Speaker 1: that we're having that. He said that he was bluffing me.
Speaker 1: But what he told me was he said, well I
Speaker 1: don't normally do you know, just you know, track I
Speaker 1: do albums. You know That's what he said. I said, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: let's do an album. You know what I'm saying Like that,
Speaker 1: That's where it came from. So you know, we just
Speaker 1: went in the pocket. So it was completely independent. This
Speaker 1: record crazy just great. I would say Crazy was independent,
Speaker 1: was independent, but Atlanta right, crazy was independent. Get the
Speaker 1: funk out of here. That's what I'm gonna tell you quick.
Speaker 1: It went to Atlanta, right eventually Atlantic, Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlantic?
Speaker 1: What are you drinking? Atlanta? But I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what a good yea before you go. It was Atlantic.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely before my drunkenness. So I went to Sam
Speaker 1: Crestal's office one day. I was saying, park in the
Speaker 1: bed on the board. They had records that they were promoting,
Speaker 1: and it was Nag's barking was like, oh, Ship, and
Speaker 1: that's how I knew it was. This is already upstream,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is crazy. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: crazy record. Okay. First of all, I'm dyslexic, so this
Speaker 1: is Janal Parkley or no. But that genus signal yournal
Speaker 1: you're covering listen, and that g is solid. It's just
Speaker 1: gnarls like atsu it could be for you, jennaral Best.
Speaker 1: I'm just texting, I see ship different. You ain't telling
Speaker 1: me all these years, I see a g if yous
Speaker 1: all these years, I think it's I was serious right
Speaker 1: now yeah, definitely ain't jump to anybody texts each other
Speaker 1: to do text and I was let involved. You know,
Speaker 1: Park is another group from twe okay, ba back Okay.
Speaker 1: So now how like, like you said, I'd like to
Speaker 1: do what you said to run the Jews thing, because
Speaker 1: the thing about it was it frum to a totally
Speaker 1: different audience, right although Outcast was was a different audience
Speaker 1: as well. How different was this audience when when when
Speaker 1: we did the halls Barley right, man, you like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm sorry, okay, So how different was that?
Speaker 1: It was super different? Man? Um we got in and
Speaker 1: about four out of the six or seven things that
Speaker 1: he played end up making the album. So he came
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Um, he had done this this mixtape called
Speaker 1: um uh the White Album, I mean the great jay
Speaker 1: Z collaborations drunk shirts that the Beatles and jay Z
Speaker 1: mixed together. So he killed he just he just gave
Speaker 1: me one because they were and they ha't even become
Speaker 1: a sensation at that point. So I don't really know
Speaker 1: what the makeup and but it was dope when I
Speaker 1: heard but the when she just blew up right, So
Speaker 1: at this time I wasn't I was displaced almost even
Speaker 1: know no label. I mean, like you know, um, And
Speaker 1: at this time I wrote and produced Don't You at
Speaker 1: the same time too, don't You for the Pussycat Dolls.
Speaker 1: Did you know that? I'm sorry, I'm just counting your money.
Speaker 1: See as that was that was that was dope. That
Speaker 1: was dope, right, So the stars just aligned. So well,
Speaker 1: man like this fucking Then he said, I got a week.
Speaker 1: He said, I gotta go out to Iceland with Damon
Speaker 1: Alburns from the Gorillas and work on this new record.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it all down. So he'said,
Speaker 1: I got a weak Let's just try something. Let's get in,
Speaker 1: he said. But yeoh, but first you're talking to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. As soon as he said Iceland
Speaker 1: and immediately got cold, he said, yo, he said, UM,
Speaker 1: I know you. Of course I thank you. I'm saying
Speaker 1: like you know, um, I like most of the your
Speaker 1: music that you do. Most this ain't talking you know what,
Speaker 1: this sow the good, it's all it's dope. I like
Speaker 1: most of your music, he said, But I noticed see
Speaker 1: your music that there's a thing that runs throughout it,
Speaker 1: and you seem to one of you know, trying to
Speaker 1: do It's a lot of good, he said, you have
Speaker 1: a lot of good things to say, but always positive.
Speaker 1: He's said, he's get that. I like that, he said,
Speaker 1: but I figure anybody's got that much, you know, has
Speaker 1: got that much it is trying to do that much good.
Speaker 1: This guy has done an equal amount of bad. He said,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to hear and know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, ship and he did no.
Speaker 1: So like basically the making ood story, I spans on
Speaker 1: that ship. I spans on it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like the music that spoke to me that kind of way.
Speaker 1: So anyway, the first record you have a quarter is crazy.
Speaker 1: We did about We did about five or six whole
Speaker 1: albums a classic and you know, nobody so praise he
Speaker 1: has done in just one take. We just demo on it.
Speaker 1: But what two he is? That is it would be
Speaker 1: considered a demo, but we just flew that way because
Speaker 1: he got leaked hold time trying to be modest. No
Speaker 1: I'm serious, I'm come brack for you. But just say
Speaker 1: you recording that in one tape? Yeah? About down? Alright, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: you know what you know what for the last couple
Speaker 1: of episodes, we've been doing the watermelon because the types
Speaker 1: of being girls, right, we had and don't blame it
Speaker 1: on the girls. Yeah, I didn't want to give it.
Speaker 1: Angie Martina is a type. Yeah. Man, the new bottle
Speaker 1: of tack ball. Yeah, it's not there, all right, So
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do it? All right? You gotta
Speaker 1: know for gotten for us right now asking the question man, question, man,
Speaker 1: I want to salute you right now. What question you answering?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, we just said that, um, he
Speaker 1: was tripping off. It was just independent. No, that was crazy.
Speaker 1: The one take is he was one and and and
Speaker 1: the independent is both blown me my river because people
Speaker 1: asked us after the fact that said that, John know
Speaker 1: crazy was gonna end up you know what it becoming
Speaker 1: what it us? He was like, No, he's the only
Speaker 1: thing I knew as the producer was it sounded more
Speaker 1: like a single than anything else that we had done prior.
Speaker 1: So you knew that was a single when you did
Speaker 1: the record. That's what he was saying. He just said
Speaker 1: it sounded like a single. You know, he didn't really that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what he was telling The interview This was after
Speaker 1: the fact. But did you know that? No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't think so no, wow, we just you know,
Speaker 1: I shot to shot extent that we're just busting off shots.
Speaker 1: Just shot busting off shot. This is uh. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: fully warn you relaxed. But you didn't. You gave me
Speaker 1: way too much. No, No, it's okay. You give me
Speaker 1: some more. Yeah, ain't even more. That's where we had
Speaker 1: that first about it. The first time was cool. You
Speaker 1: are just type a ball. Yeah, you know this is
Speaker 1: age in my garage. Joe's around antient Cuman secret. Okay,
Speaker 1: once again, sure, this is to your career. So I
Speaker 1: hate that ship. That's good too. It was not that bad.
Speaker 1: It's it's not good man, I like it. Don't stop it.
Speaker 1: Don't perpetuate the lie. He's a drinking It's not a
Speaker 1: drink any man. Just you know, I see him drink
Speaker 1: patron and just stand like I was, like, there's no symptoms,
Speaker 1: it's normal. Fact. You know what he thoughties like that too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we voted the k okay so um anyway,
Speaker 1: when you said how you got on that land chick okay,
Speaker 1: this ship the record leaks it goes bananas. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Oh, you didn't plan on dropping an independent,
Speaker 1: elite elite. Oh that's that's a big difference. So look
Speaker 1: then it goes um It's the first record to go
Speaker 1: number one by digital downloads at that time. You feel me.
Speaker 1: So the ship was number one several weeks before we
Speaker 1: did a deal. It was another SoundCloud rappers. It's cool
Speaker 1: to you I had something that actually, this is a
Speaker 1: crazy kind of considered this one of the first viral records.
Speaker 1: This viral I'm not gonna lie to The impact was
Speaker 1: so big that always thought it was amazing from the beginning.
Speaker 1: So you me hearing you say this blowing my mind.
Speaker 1: Got this record has gotta get us World record man
Speaker 1: for being played on more radio formaicine any other song
Speaker 1: in history crazy was played on talk radio. This is
Speaker 1: one more man like you know, like, oh hey, I'm
Speaker 1: somewhere you know, j give you gets some fun. Atlantic
Speaker 1: actually turned down turned down the originally for us in
Speaker 1: Let's Coupe turned us down. A couple of people turned
Speaker 1: it down. Then we ended up getting distribution through through
Speaker 1: a general by the name of Josh Josh Deutsch who
Speaker 1: was starting another independent record called Downtown, which had Santigo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just amazing label in that little shot and every
Speaker 1: amount of time. But he ended up getting his distribution
Speaker 1: through Atlantic, and that's how Atlantic came about. And let
Speaker 1: me explain really quickly, like as a DJ, already had
Speaker 1: the record because he bootlegses ship, but I had a
Speaker 1: marketing I have a marketing company, and I was working
Speaker 1: Atlantic and Sam Crastpo, which I've known, and I went
Speaker 1: to the label and I was so happy to see
Speaker 1: the record I already was working with on the board.
Speaker 1: It was on the board Atlantic. And did you first
Speaker 1: get ahold too? By way the league to I had
Speaker 1: the white label, right, okay, yeah that's the leak. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: my company is everything crazy, Like my company's crazy and
Speaker 1: productions and crazy everything. We're talking about your record to us,
Speaker 1: that is a fact. Now it's just like, I mean,
Speaker 1: the ship is dope to look back on him, just
Speaker 1: like wow, what I mean, like I can't really have
Speaker 1: no field kind of well, but I'm blessed and I'm fortunate, man.
Speaker 1: But you know that it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: by my design, not necessarily. Now recently big Boy performed
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, just talked about it, and you
Speaker 1: you you like the friend you are, you stepped up,
Speaker 1: you defended them because of everything that was going on.
Speaker 1: Then you see some backlash. Yeah, so what what what
Speaker 1: was that? Like? Explain and your point of view? What
Speaker 1: was your meaning? Well, the ship got so out of him, man,
Speaker 1: I ended up doing a formal apology on TMZ. But
Speaker 1: what the post was? You know, you know, Big was
Speaker 1: getting a lot of backlash tonight for for supporting the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying, You know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know how it is to be under the gun.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I know the pressure. And then you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, he was doing it, you know,
Speaker 1: as an individual artist and something like you know which
Speaker 1: is which is a feat? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: In his hometown, a lot of people don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on. Like I mean, like Adam and Big are
Speaker 1: really good friends and business partners from from from five.
Speaker 1: It was it was his pleasure. And I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know too allow. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like you I mean like us to be represented and
Speaker 1: I mean, like you know, like somebody from the city
Speaker 1: should have represented in that in that time slot, one
Speaker 1: of the most called six minutes of six minutes time.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's say, right, you know what I'm saying, So like
Speaker 1: he got to do that. So anyway, um, just as
Speaker 1: a friend, I'm like, damn, I'm feeling his pressure. But
Speaker 1: then I'm feeling encouraged, you know what i mean, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm looking at him, like when I
Speaker 1: see him, I see me, I see us, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and me like this is
Speaker 1: this is super relevant, you know. I mean, like we
Speaker 1: were right in the eye of the storm, and I
Speaker 1: was like letting him know. I needed to let him
Speaker 1: know in a real public you know, like wait, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying like that I loved him and I supported him,
Speaker 1: and like and like, don't crumble under the pressure, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, because I know there's something
Speaker 1: like a part of the talent is making it look
Speaker 1: easy as it does. Like you know, ship she could
Speaker 1: that she could be she could be demanding. You don't
Speaker 1: say you feel me taxing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's what it was, and that's that's why it's
Speaker 1: a tone that come along with my explanation because that's
Speaker 1: how I felt. But the light side of it is
Speaker 1: we wash motherfucking taco mac in Atlanta, a little a
Speaker 1: little joint that's got the dope chicken wings and a
Speaker 1: little figuring of ball foods, and we're watching the game.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm drinking some blue moons. We having fun
Speaker 1: on with my wife. We having fun. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I mean. It's up Queen Shaney.
Speaker 1: Al right, So and I just do it. And I'm saying, like, like, yo,
Speaker 1: big do that ship you a little baby? You look
Speaker 1: you look beautiful. Baby. Fuck these protesters and what I said,
Speaker 1: these so called protesters, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you know they took it in a whole difference. Dad,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, you gotta know that it's it does
Speaker 1: nothing have nothing to do with my Twitter is policeity.
Speaker 1: I know that's not what you mean. I know I
Speaker 1: knew exactly. And sometimes when I say things, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: people knowing me from all of the history and all
Speaker 1: of the what we put in. But then take I
Speaker 1: think I apply sometimes I think you underestimate your celebrity,
Speaker 1: Like meaning meaning like you're so much bigger than like
Speaker 1: it's just like just even seeing you and U a
Speaker 1: DJ college house and you literally came in. Remember, I know,
Speaker 1: I can't say I can't I'm dyslexic. Man, I'm just
Speaker 1: riding the way. I'm just but but you like by yourself,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, and most people will
Speaker 1: ever be caught like that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and that's honorable. Yeah, but it's also like some times
Speaker 1: in certain situations it's a little crazy, little crazy to
Speaker 1: be by itself. But technically with neighborside really felt like
Speaker 1: I'm just coming down the streets. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying. I'm just saying that. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying related to the Twitter thing. Sometimes you probably
Speaker 1: you know, tweeting and you're speaking to your eight you know,
Speaker 1: your your your version of people, but there's so many
Speaker 1: people that follow you or so many people that's that's
Speaker 1: just you know, yeah, it's it's fucking crazy. It's super sensitive.
Speaker 1: But I was able to rectify and saying I can
Speaker 1: show somebody on that man, like it's not truly meant
Speaker 1: no harm. It was just it was just you know,
Speaker 1: drunken love and supportment for which is which is absolutely
Speaker 1: correct because we live in an assensitive moment, like we
Speaker 1: live in the times where comedians have to be like
Speaker 1: so fucking cautious, like I don't what they're saying at
Speaker 1: the time. Correctness because if you look at if you
Speaker 1: look at hip hop, you look at all the fucking
Speaker 1: bad ship there you go back from back in the
Speaker 1: days terrible holy moly moly, Like we're all like, we're
Speaker 1: all like if you're going to look at every fucking
Speaker 1: lyric like it's terrible, Like it's terrible. Like people saying
Speaker 1: to me tweets erased this, I'm like, oh ship, like
Speaker 1: I said that that was me, Like like that was
Speaker 1: two thousand and something. I'm like, I don't even know,
Speaker 1: and I still don't think it's me. So I told
Speaker 1: me because like people was operating my street. Don't take
Speaker 1: it back. Just evolved. Now, Mom, all this happens, they
Speaker 1: call you for shure the voice immediately is it the
Speaker 1: bag or is it like you know what, let me
Speaker 1: see if I can add on to what's not the bag? Lie?
Speaker 1: If it was the bad for me, I would have
Speaker 1: been there with a pin, y'all. I had on thinking anything.
Speaker 1: I want to think about me. I want to think
Speaker 1: about me. I can't hurt people feelings like I gotta go,
Speaker 1: I carry anybody. I don't like that ship, but the
Speaker 1: ship is dope like right. So I was doing a
Speaker 1: Saturday night live performance. I had that question, let me
Speaker 1: get it. I get it that. Yeah, it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: We don't don't say anything. We're gonna to ruin everything. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: there we go. Now, So we were doing a performance
Speaker 1: man and Sir Mark Barnett was that So Mark Barnett
Speaker 1: is television and film you know, like you know exactly
Speaker 1: produce of The Apprentice and so you name it. Let
Speaker 1: say you feel me like he's done exception know the well,
Speaker 1: So he out there in the fucking audience checking off
Speaker 1: the show. I made him and Lauren Michaels who who
Speaker 1: you know? I guess? So yes with that, he just
Speaker 1: said he saw something in me and you feel me.
Speaker 1: And it didn't hurt that. I had the motherfuckering number
Speaker 1: one record in the country at the time. Continue, I
Speaker 1: love it. I love listen man man man not seriously though,
Speaker 1: like me and Adam were cool. Um, you all got together.
Speaker 1: We head then like they let us know off top
Speaker 1: of who they thought the cast would be and feeling like,
Speaker 1: you know, so we sat down, we had a preliminary
Speaker 1: dinner together, man, and everybody was just like me and
Speaker 1: Adam knowing each other. I just a dope story bout
Speaker 1: Adam too. Can see record when you said, Adam, listen,
Speaker 1: we know you're like very like up there. People don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people yet least we don't don't know. Okay, yeah, And
Speaker 1: for those who don't know, Maroon five is one of
Speaker 1: the biggest I mean careful, I word this, What is it?
Speaker 1: Because what was then in sync? Like like they're like
Speaker 1: they're like the grown version. I don't see you you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: like were like before, but Sin was his sync, Like
Speaker 1: they're like the grown up Virgin and they were they
Speaker 1: wear rolesques. I'm not Adam levine Rolette game. You ever
Speaker 1: see you ever see a Lavine roletts game? His insect
Speaker 1: and training pictions. He's like, what do you think about
Speaker 1: his watch games? Crazy? By the way you're watching, I
Speaker 1: don't have no idea. I felt like I can't announce
Speaker 1: whatever the names. It's ridiculous. It's undulous. I felt like
Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz is jealous. That is that it's
Speaker 1: old man. It's it's called it's doing it. It was
Speaker 1: an up start and we was we was supporting each other. Man.
Speaker 1: It was like I was like, yo, I love it design.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it's a couple years ago. Was
Speaker 1: about ten years old, right. So the style like you know,
Speaker 1: like everybody's on like slim trim. You know, I'm liking
Speaker 1: protect you know what I mean, Like you know, presidential,
Speaker 1: you know all of that, and I got I got
Speaker 1: those two. But this is old. You know. It's because
Speaker 1: you what you're talking about Aldams watching, Yeah, don't know
Speaker 1: what I like. It's like watching ye, So this is
Speaker 1: all this is. It's all school. It's something that probably
Speaker 1: but it's worth nothing. That's it's so original and unique.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's worth nothing. What do you mean? But
Speaker 1: you can't trade it for anything. It's it's like painting.
Speaker 1: It's like painting. I wrote, watch line brilliant. What's your personalizer?
Speaker 1: To that point is the only person that wanted this person?
Speaker 1: And then of course you know, like these watchers are
Speaker 1: estimated and I'm saying, like in ranked by that by
Speaker 1: their motoring and saying like the movement, so it's like,
Speaker 1: you know this is like so it's like that in Banks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean like it's it could be a Banksy watch. Yeah, no, Banks,
Speaker 1: she's the motherfucker. He's a jist. So that's the art nigger, right,
Speaker 1: He's like an art nigger. He used to be violating,
Speaker 1: like you know, they found out he black, but he's
Speaker 1: gonna go to jail because maybe he's been doing this
Speaker 1: like you gotta be white, because he would just be
Speaker 1: putting like pas museums and is already there, Like come on,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. Every black, you're black, you're arrest
Speaker 1: of the art community. And the white community and Middle
Speaker 1: America at large love him so much. If he turns
Speaker 1: out to be black, he can be the next black president.
Speaker 1: That's a motherfucker's considered him. And you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be like I got no, I got no
Speaker 1: rated all the building. What's my brother got about with it? Man?
Speaker 1: About what you're saying? Man was on the was on
Speaker 1: the white. So either way, like I just brought it
Speaker 1: out because it worked so well with what I was
Speaker 1: doing tonight, and I'm saying you feeling me in but
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you some real ship because now
Speaker 1: how motherfucker's are now the larger conversation has become property. Really,
Speaker 1: you know, just talking about that right now. So I'm
Speaker 1: just being really about like just the fact that this
Speaker 1: watch is worth nothing. It looks good it was worth
Speaker 1: and you'll be staying at the fighting a hotel, which
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. That hotel. I've never seen the
Speaker 1: hotel under or like fourteen hundred. I've never seen it
Speaker 1: like that. That is a little rage. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Don't try us rooms like that is because
Speaker 1: we worked that way were you broke off. I'm not
Speaker 1: over there. I'm an employ either. That's the most just
Speaker 1: one of the most gorgeous properties on South Beach. Listen,
Speaker 1: that was the best at that. That was what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I'm a paid performer and a preferred guest.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm still getting you know, that's the
Speaker 1: big but you get me a scripted is written it.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't really know. I'm we can't relate.
Speaker 1: He lit the other thing he said that he said,
Speaker 1: it's right, let's go, let's go. He was just talking
Speaker 1: the other days. He was just talking. The other day
Speaker 1: he was like, it's out because I'll be at the
Speaker 1: Fighting Hotel. You know, I'm just looking at this thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, what then did he just because now,
Speaker 1: mind you, that's how I I don't know about the
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right. Fight hotel
Speaker 1: restaurant was Drink Champs Army. This is when like we
Speaker 1: were like we was battling everybody out there. So Jay
Speaker 1: jay Z had landed in Miami and the Drink Champs
Speaker 1: Army had showed me a picture of jay Z, so
Speaker 1: I wanted I sent it to Jay, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to know it wasn't you know, just talking him. But
Speaker 1: you know, this is how much people want you on
Speaker 1: drinking chaps. So he's like, where the fund did you
Speaker 1: see this that? He's like, He's like, you know, what
Speaker 1: come to me at the hotel? So he said, yo
Speaker 1: to Fighting the hotel And I had never heard of
Speaker 1: this ship, So what is it? That's the hotel. I've
Speaker 1: never been there. I've actually actually I was like for
Speaker 1: Mexican revolutionaries hang out. I don't know as I'm on
Speaker 1: the way going there, he goes your chill. We went
Speaker 1: to Chris Rock show and Chris Rock shows by my place.
Speaker 1: We're rolling out is this weekend, So I just turned
Speaker 1: around and went that way and my wife gets your
Speaker 1: hair done bit. But I actually never went in there
Speaker 1: or whatever. But everyone would it looked like you like, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's a couple of big Yeah, he's he needed me
Speaker 1: for something. That was something, So I had to be
Speaker 1: the hub. Yeah yeah, telling my man New Jersey torkmen
Speaker 1: that even mean if you got tork, that even mean
Speaker 1: you're selling a lot of drugs. You're in the strip
Speaker 1: club and look at your face and tell it's the
Speaker 1: person one. So to see though, man, coming from where
Speaker 1: you came from, seeing you ever thought hip hop would
Speaker 1: be this big? You ever thought that, you know, you'll
Speaker 1: be performing like like you went on Talk with Light
Speaker 1: No Richie, I imagine old but was throwing pats on
Speaker 1: stage like come on, like he's on stage like he's
Speaker 1: still getting the popping, No doubt now he was. He was.
Speaker 1: He was taking care of he has a bad one
Speaker 1: with him then time like he was. But the greatest
Speaker 1: part about that, you know what it's just the the acknowledgement,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you know, the share
Speaker 1: of space, you know, I mean, like to be mentioned
Speaker 1: in the same sense. Man, it's such a compliment. Man,
Speaker 1: you feel like I can't help but be humble about
Speaker 1: that man a lot of riches, you know, like you
Speaker 1: know that's my ancestor. Man, he come to poon me.
Speaker 1: I'm humble. You know what I was that phone called
Speaker 1: even getting that phone quartered which you want crazy come
Speaker 1: for all? And do you act do you act like
Speaker 1: like a little stuck up at first, because you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, what one thing I'm gonna be is comfortable.
Speaker 1: Because what I'm saying like, it's it's just if I
Speaker 1: know these people, I grew up with him, and I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you feel me like I can. I mean, he essentially
Speaker 1: taught me how to sing. I can sing along? Like
Speaker 1: how long? How to sing is? It's imitating people. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, and I realized that I was,
Speaker 1: you know, growing and some like getting better when I
Speaker 1: could just be flushed up against it, you know what,
Speaker 1: saying like you feel me like and not being a
Speaker 1: tale of the difference between myself and the track. I mean,
Speaker 1: so that's how I learnt to say it. But the
Speaker 1: biggest the first step to being great is having great taste.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you feel me. You just got your
Speaker 1: know what's good. And I'm like, you know, but the
Speaker 1: first thing you feel this was good to you. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you feel me, And it might not be
Speaker 1: everything for everybody else, but like you gotta just be true,
Speaker 1: be true to thy itself as the saying goal what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and that's why all this colorful come from.
Speaker 1: Man Like can I'll just be having fun with it now,
Speaker 1: and like because it ain't no secret, Okay, let's speak
Speaker 1: some noise. I've never seen Lina Recie perform. I had
Speaker 1: dinner like Jason will him. He was to the side
Speaker 1: one time, and then I've had across the street from
Speaker 1: one time. But I see our our perform all at
Speaker 1: some point gives out roses. Every woman in the crowd
Speaker 1: losing their minds for some reason. I felt like has
Speaker 1: like that, and I wasn't. I was gonna try to.
Speaker 1: I was trying to say something, you know, pointed about
Speaker 1: it and it's as opposed to just being up. But
Speaker 1: the reality of it was I was coming on early
Speaker 1: people were still failing in their seats. I was performing
Speaker 1: to like you know, no where near full, right what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and then it would eventually grow throughout the set,
Speaker 1: people start sitting down by my getting comfortable, and then
Speaker 1: night would fall something like you know by the time
Speaker 1: I'm at the songs that they're gonna motherfucker no, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you know, we finished them
Speaker 1: off with crazy and fuck You and like it's like, bam,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be like you know, and what's funny is
Speaker 1: that he safe and fuck you crazy ship. That's literally
Speaker 1: my next question. You keep throwing my next song fuck
Speaker 1: you that was your independent as well, and fuck you
Speaker 1: and what we did we did that together that he did.
Speaker 1: But no, but but glad Richie puts on this that
Speaker 1: shows so much energy and such a fucking arsenal, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like an iconic, legendary hit records
Speaker 1: every tempo from slow to mid to fucking all night long.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, you're gonna that should gonna be motherfucker'.
Speaker 1: I love y'all said back longer listening. Your mom's got
Speaker 1: funding and Richie right now be showing more respectively louder.
Speaker 1: We might think we're a lot younger, but once you go,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be just like muscle memory, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna realize to be reminded that you've been around.
Speaker 1: You're gonna know all these songs and that's what's great
Speaker 1: about it. That's God damn, that's God damn awesome. So
Speaker 1: um through our all hip hop. If you just if
Speaker 1: you're could do one thing over better, what would you do?
Speaker 1: I would take my entire am seeing career more serious.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm telling you aside from your singing career,
Speaker 1: well singing like I could do that easier. I'm saying
Speaker 1: you feel me like I could sing easy? Um, I
Speaker 1: guess what I mean by that is like you know,
Speaker 1: just more a depth and more like you know you
Speaker 1: have enough you're not having affinity for like color and
Speaker 1: harmony and melody. But you know you don't feel that
Speaker 1: there was undeveloped lane in your MC career or do
Speaker 1: you feel I wish you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: that I had like more wrap ship that connected. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like like we all know you
Speaker 1: as an real real fans, real rapsole I just made
Speaker 1: from my solo work. Um you know all of my
Speaker 1: albums were kind of like you know, live very I
Speaker 1: mean like it's wrapping all kind of shipped on them ships.
Speaker 1: And so you feel me like so I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I did enough as an m C.
Speaker 1: And like I'm I feel like I'm still as good
Speaker 1: of and n see as an MC as I can,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like as I want to be.
Speaker 1: You feel me, um so, but the bulk of what
Speaker 1: that is and what it represents some something like you
Speaker 1: know like the roots of the tree is good and
Speaker 1: Dungeon Family and that's why we've been you know so
Speaker 1: like refurbishing the brand, you know, like boots to the ground,
Speaker 1: wem saying and doing some ship we haven't done the
Speaker 1: twenty five years together and that's tour. We never did
Speaker 1: it this year right now. Yeah, the Dungeon Family is
Speaker 1: trying with this. KPIs out there with us. We got
Speaker 1: actually open zed noise. You know, it's like Charld the
Speaker 1: tool Bus and came out just as the you know,
Speaker 1: the top tier that's just to come and you know,
Speaker 1: oversee it and be you know, you feel me just
Speaker 1: be present, you feel me like because it was just
Speaker 1: it's just it's pretty fucking uh you know history what
Speaker 1: we're doing if we don't never get a chance to
Speaker 1: do it again. But like to didn't come come on right?
Speaker 1: We need We talked about it. We talked about. What
Speaker 1: I can tell you is he's proud. I'm saying you
Speaker 1: feel me like, and he's accessible like and we we
Speaker 1: are still very very immediate family, all of us. We
Speaker 1: talked very consistent. Last three times I've seen are three thousand.
Speaker 1: He was by himself with a shoe straight valve. All right,
Speaker 1: that's a great story right now. Look that that's the
Speaker 1: same thing you just know about me the other day.
Speaker 1: I can't I walked up by myself. You see him
Speaker 1: by himself and like man like, I mean like just
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my ship, my gee, that's Finely I
Speaker 1: look over the home because I was just about to
Speaker 1: say some games to Energy Complex. I don't have to
Speaker 1: fear something I don't, you know, I mean like because
Speaker 1: I did to take it when I was out there.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying a little real quick, I mean
Speaker 1: just because ce those here. I just want to say
Speaker 1: this on the Energy of Andre only go always to us,
Speaker 1: but we would appreciate if Andre comes back to the table.
Speaker 1: We all would give we all ways because we all
Speaker 1: fans too, you know what I'm saying, Like you know,
Speaker 1: but um, there's no there's no pressure, man, not not
Speaker 1: how hard it would be. The deal to dunge your
Speaker 1: Family album done with every member. I'm just done your
Speaker 1: Family right now, my techot P. Because I felt like
Speaker 1: if I'm asked this to Risisi, start sweat right, just
Speaker 1: be men like it's really it's it's a whole lot easy.
Speaker 1: I was just about to say a chord. Yeah, man like,
Speaker 1: and that's the conversation we've been happening because like the energy,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's like a room now, like the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's feeling some kind of way, like, man, we could
Speaker 1: we could do this ship this is think only your studios.
Speaker 1: It's easier. Yeah, I mean like anyway, I think we
Speaker 1: should actually do something more. You know, we're out and
Speaker 1: go to go some go somewhere where the Kanye then
Speaker 1: you can slap you right the Miami and record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we used to go to the Circle House. I'm come
Speaker 1: down STI. That's remind me of jail that name, Like
Speaker 1: I immediately feel like I'm locked out there. You'd be like,
Speaker 1: why we don't stop? Don't stop for that. So what
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask is did you foresee when you
Speaker 1: was the Narves Barkley, not even foresee after you did
Speaker 1: Narves Barkley and then Run the Jewels came about, did
Speaker 1: you see the connection? Um? Yeah, definitely definitely um black kid,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, even though you think it
Speaker 1: was that simple RACI le wise, No, I mean, like
Speaker 1: the thing is just dope, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you feel me like and you can't you can't
Speaker 1: pretend the effect and you feel like you know, I
Speaker 1: mean like you know, uh, the reciprocation was there and
Speaker 1: something like you know what I mean, Like, so it
Speaker 1: was it was just official I'm saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was dope, Like I mean, if
Speaker 1: I could be any kind of information to somebody like
Speaker 1: that and just so they could you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: create a path. It's about blazing trails, you know, so
Speaker 1: like I can dig that and so like I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like all of that is for culture
Speaker 1: to just show what we're capable of, you know, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you feel me? Well, we ever see a
Speaker 1: Seelo lyrical album, just lyrics, just rhyming, Man, i'd be tripping.
Speaker 1: I think a lot and say you feel me? And
Speaker 1: I think that you know, maybe if I if I
Speaker 1: sit down the focus, Yeah, I probably feel it. And
Speaker 1: I'm saying like, and I know that I should, and
Speaker 1: so that coul real to be dope. And I mean
Speaker 1: because what I actually commit to and I you know,
Speaker 1: and and this and this, you know it's the space.
Speaker 1: I mean, I probably you know, that's when you realize
Speaker 1: you can go further than that. It's like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: the funk I was waiting on in the first place.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but like I don't know. I mean like
Speaker 1: I don't know. Motherfucker's give a fuck. Yeah, don't play,
Speaker 1: I try to. This is to the motherfucker Seelo Green
Speaker 1: and also got our brother joining the show. Motherfucking gun
Speaker 1: playing right now we see the Little Mother she has
Speaker 1: very same thing taking down. Yeah, can somebody get the
Speaker 1: year because somebody? Sorry sorry to change subject to like sour,
Speaker 1: but you own victory lack with Nipsey House still ye man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that it hit home for me right for all of
Speaker 1: us every side, Yeah, you know personal do you know
Speaker 1: Nipsey prior to recording with him or yeah? Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: um yeah, and you know the only one of my
Speaker 1: count on that record and the saying he came for
Speaker 1: he traveled to come get me. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you mean a lot of really significant in that way,
Speaker 1: you know, and and of course you know the the
Speaker 1: untimely passing. It's just, you know, it's just iconicizes this
Speaker 1: this particular project so much more. It is you know,
Speaker 1: it'll it'll live forever now and it's not because of
Speaker 1: the circumstance arounding it, you know. And I get a
Speaker 1: chance to you know, be you know, it's been a
Speaker 1: sweet and sing like but I get just to be
Speaker 1: a part of that legacy. It's gonna live forever, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, and so will I you know,
Speaker 1: in in in association, and I'm saying like, so it's
Speaker 1: fucked up, you know what i mean, Like you know,
Speaker 1: because I was just like God, damn, I thought about Dad,
Speaker 1: and I thought about just you know, who else I
Speaker 1: do with with with what all set record too? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like I got it has
Speaker 1: to be a part of some some really relevant ship
Speaker 1: right now, something like it was. It was just like
Speaker 1: an honor man, like you know, to rock with the
Speaker 1: home in that way. Now can't play YouTube because we
Speaker 1: all heard rumors of you know, Nipsey coming very very
Speaker 1: very close to signing to MMG. And so I'm sure
Speaker 1: you know you're being uh one of US's right hands man.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you had a lot of encounters with him.
Speaker 1: So how I was, how did you take that? First?
Speaker 1: I want to start with like with me and me
Speaker 1: and the Big Homie was just wrapping rapping by like, um,
Speaker 1: do this this generation appreciate his art and and there
Speaker 1: you go. You know what I'm saying, Nipsey like he's
Speaker 1: like the cloth or the screet like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like for real, And as you can see,
Speaker 1: he reached out to the Big Homie and the record
Speaker 1: that he did with ross Um, the first one is
Speaker 1: a joy already it was like not and then the
Speaker 1: second one smile. I can't play with anybody else in
Speaker 1: the car because I don't want him to think I'm
Speaker 1: a bit, But I get to you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying a little little it's like that like that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just humble to even be in this
Speaker 1: situation right here. And you know what I'm saying. First off,
Speaker 1: and second of all, um, I didn't really interact with
Speaker 1: I didn't see him, you know, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: how be bro. You know what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'd really be really really ter, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I didn't really get to
Speaker 1: get to bump into him on the industry sets like
Speaker 1: that like that. But I already know just by watching
Speaker 1: his interviews, listening to his music, I already knew he
Speaker 1: was grounded. He was what we need to follow. He
Speaker 1: was a leader, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: what you know. And and I took off out of
Speaker 1: his music when I did listen to it, but you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and that was that was Keith,
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You know you know what
Speaker 1: we're gonna say. We're gonna all say God bless and
Speaker 1: rest in peace. But moving on to a positive, positive No,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We want like you know
Speaker 1: your champions about praising the artists while they're alive. And again,
Speaker 1: I want to reiterate, you know, I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: you know gun Play pulls up because I know he's
Speaker 1: gonna help us with this is. We want you to
Speaker 1: know that you appreciated. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: everything that you did. You know what I'm saying, You
Speaker 1: are a legend living as a legend. You're humble, but
Speaker 1: will brack for you, no problem, no problem, no problem.
Speaker 1: But never mind the South. You are living legend for
Speaker 1: us and every hip hop But I started more, I
Speaker 1: started selling the lead when That's why it means so
Speaker 1: much to me when I listening to y'all and listen
Speaker 1: like to if intro, the outro to everything, y'all dropped
Speaker 1: jewels before the jewels was supposed to even be picked up.
Speaker 1: Niggers ain't even know they were supposed to pick up jewels,
Speaker 1: and it was hious like y'all, like like the the
Speaker 1: everything from the first single from you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: peeping in my window and stuff's happening. Now, let me
Speaker 1: let me it's happening now. We just asked because conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: they always say that who's that peeking in my window?
Speaker 1: Was about some other ship that we didn't know. No,
Speaker 1: what's happening now? The gates keeping out, like what was
Speaker 1: that record about? Because I don't know tell you the
Speaker 1: whole story. It's annoying. Alright, So look that this is
Speaker 1: this is one of my all time familites. Okay, um
Speaker 1: m cs of all time who said recently and he's
Speaker 1: post to you his favorite MC. This is busting Ryan.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, bigger right like Louve, but's one of
Speaker 1: my all time favorite. But anyway, the story goes, we're
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Uh it's now staining Coonia, but it was Bosstown.
Speaker 1: Then Outcas bought Bobby Brown's studio. It was Bobby Brown's
Speaker 1: first it was called Cocaine. I'm sure so yeah, so
Speaker 1: but you know what, I'm suing the story. I'm taking
Speaker 1: that back. No, we was a dark we'll a dark
Speaker 1: Dallas Austin studio, not someone Si. Yeah, but a lot
Speaker 1: of cocaine and always see him mine. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know the game. You check it out. Buster Rhymes gave us.
Speaker 1: Buster Rhymes came in our session. He said, brothers, look
Speaker 1: at you know not but for me, what y'all work outout?
Speaker 1: But what if he sitting like that? Brothers are doing
Speaker 1: some good things. I want to pass off a bit
Speaker 1: of information to y'all. There was a book called The
Speaker 1: Hold the Pale Horse. I'm missing that quit. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: billy yourself. Wait wait wait, walkas Gables way. Buster mind
Speaker 1: gave it to the Dunker. So Big Rule, who was
Speaker 1: a resident. You know what I'm saying, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's good Rule exactly. He read the book first.
Speaker 1: This book is what it's three hundred pages on better,
Speaker 1: so we had to take his time. He read the book.
Speaker 1: You know, we always living at the duchy like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's crazy at the time.
Speaker 1: So basically a short, long story short. That book got
Speaker 1: around everybody were head, everybody read beholding good he must
Speaker 1: y'all on the whole nother. Yeah, And then your nigga's
Speaker 1: in the studio high snap seeing somebody people through the window.
Speaker 1: That was analogy, you though, sometimes that's another way to say,
Speaker 1: like big brothers watching everyone, Let me and check one
Speaker 1: more little quick enough man. Nigga my old girl right,
Speaker 1: she was being like Hella hip then and she gave
Speaker 1: me um um the Sunday National Law some some book
Speaker 1: whatever whatever, and it ultimately led me to the Bill
Speaker 1: Cooper book, the White Horse Book. So my nigga, like
Speaker 1: when they was saying that my old girl was preaching
Speaker 1: that same ship to me, and I was like, oh hey,
Speaker 1: it should make sense, and my nigga, it's going on now.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying, You know everything,
Speaker 1: it's all about putting like yo yo ship right there
Speaker 1: on the table, like for real, for real, that was
Speaker 1: talking that ship before Nigga's even perspective. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's why I like, it's truly a testament
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's a a a an accomplishment to
Speaker 1: still be here man and talking about it right now
Speaker 1: because you know, we was blacklisted out of the gate
Speaker 1: and something we can't with it, we can't with the
Speaker 1: information right out of the game. I almost like we're
Speaker 1: glad to make one dollar and you crazy all right
Speaker 1: on the line right off top and let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something. Let me you you almost like um
Speaker 1: be with me at the o J level, meaning like
Speaker 1: some people don't look at o J black You made
Speaker 1: a certain level. We had a certain people just look
Speaker 1: at you like you just see though what you want.
Speaker 1: I just say, I'm just saying it's like oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you look at you know if you know nothing else.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is what I'm saying to me,
Speaker 1: you are Celan right now, walk down the street. The
Speaker 1: white people are gonna say or something him. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: of course, of course. It's like still waters steal me everyone.
Speaker 1: I know that. Look he conquered the job of staying
Speaker 1: out the county jail long enough, like like you did
Speaker 1: all of us, Like you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's like a flake time job, like stay out
Speaker 1: the county stay saying says that we are we gonna
Speaker 1: make up thinking jail. It's warmly conversation. That's any time
Speaker 1: stay say now, Mark, I'm sorry made it was g
Speaker 1: I should be shall look look how y'all caught me? Man?
Speaker 1: Hold okay, good in a mineral some ship, I'm like,
Speaker 1: way on that. Yeah, alright, cool, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm so kids, So I'll take y'all really you don't
Speaker 1: we cli hip hop? They're gonna you know, man know
Speaker 1: what again? Because I know gunplayer is gonna coach side
Speaker 1: and defense on coach sidnists. We just want to say
Speaker 1: how much we appreciate you. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: for you know, I'm digging in the dirt and breaking
Speaker 1: boundaries and a lot of ways. Um everything I'm seeing
Speaker 1: you guys and um goodie mob and outcasts and you know,
Speaker 1: taking different ways. That's one of the reasons why I
Speaker 1: messed with a person like for a round was just
Speaker 1: to just jump outside the box. And and at the
Speaker 1: time to Swiss Beasts as well, a lot of people
Speaker 1: didn't like he was just working with rough riders and
Speaker 1: that was it, and I just wanted to do something different.
Speaker 1: You discover for real? I mean easy to say that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love essentially being tributed to you. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. And you know what, you know, I
Speaker 1: got number love for the guy and I love our
Speaker 1: history together. But you know, and that's the thing is,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to make it more about you. Um,
Speaker 1: so like you know, um, it's it's gonna stop. I'm good,
Speaker 1: I keep hitting the mic, right, I'm good, alright, So sorry,
Speaker 1: everybody got their own paths. Yeah, it don't matter. What's
Speaker 1: what everybody we can call come up together. It don't matter.
Speaker 1: Rise here for someone, go this way, someone go to
Speaker 1: film somethe gonna give me, someone go to this something
Speaker 1: producing some of the suff so crack someone to do. So,
Speaker 1: how's this whatever? But everybody got their own joint, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like everybody, so nobody should
Speaker 1: be like, oh that nigga, Now what's your path? Like?
Speaker 1: What what did you create for yourself? What that's the need?
Speaker 1: Did you see for yourself that you made reality? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, This was his reality? Like, Yo, look,
Speaker 1: look I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be a screet nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be me. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead on Fronago to Bagel with these with these
Speaker 1: food wops. We just go get where I got to go.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna make the best music possible that
Speaker 1: could pull that shit about you stick to your ribs,
Speaker 1: say that and then boom at the same time, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Be, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm watching him. I'm watching I'm watching
Speaker 1: Fresh Prince of ballet. Don't watch you to like I'm
Speaker 1: watching them set. I'm watching these is on film, but
Speaker 1: they're still them. Still, I'm still gonna be but I
Speaker 1: could black. You know what I'm saying, just every little
Speaker 1: what I have to I'm not trying to do that.
Speaker 1: I ain't I'm running like out to but if I
Speaker 1: have to not that that's a great saying that that
Speaker 1: that that's that says there's a deadline between being pro
Speaker 1: black and being professional. That's it. That's it, yo. So
Speaker 1: you just and then and listen at this point, know
Speaker 1: nigga like, come over CNN the whole situation. Let's keep it.
Speaker 1: You see the lep Yeah yeah, he And the first
Speaker 1: song I ever had on a mixtape was him first.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know the history. But I hit great.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm we got we got music, we put
Speaker 1: out exactly. He's He's the ultimate accomplishment. Is you see
Speaker 1: how naturally it was for me to say how much
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I mean you say and the thing
Speaker 1: about it and appreciate you and and vice versa. Think
Speaker 1: about it. That's what we gotta do for our community.
Speaker 1: This thing is we gotta preach that we can preach.
Speaker 1: We can preach so much other yo, yo, this pitch
Speaker 1: and you know, smoke yourself for why do not say?
Speaker 1: Yo man? My man is a great guy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell him math, you know what I'm saying. Like when
Speaker 1: y'all single to just passed away, godless and dad, we
Speaker 1: actually had footage of us giving him his flowers right there, saying, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know what that was? That was a beautiful government
Speaker 1: for me because I didn't do it for that moment
Speaker 1: expected him to pass away. But the thing about it
Speaker 1: is that's what we gotta. We gotta big of our
Speaker 1: communities way more than you know what I'm saying. Because
Speaker 1: you go to Nebraska, you go to Milwaukee, or you
Speaker 1: go to uh doods to do off Germany and they'll
Speaker 1: be throwing roses at your your feet. Well we it
Speaker 1: wants to be at your feet whatever in America as well.
Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying. I hate when I go to
Speaker 1: Europe and they appreciate me more. I hate when I
Speaker 1: go to Europe the doors over that nine o'clock and
Speaker 1: they they got the whole ship pack the six Can
Speaker 1: I tell you this, yes, sir, I don't know I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just because I'm just on the
Speaker 1: celebrity standing there at that moment, or if it's really
Speaker 1: something to do with me. But I got so much love, bro,
Speaker 1: That's why I like, you know, even when you were
Speaker 1: talking earlier about me be putting up and it's something
Speaker 1: just for my own's like, like, I don't got nothing
Speaker 1: but love. I swear to guard men. Over twenty five
Speaker 1: years professional career, I have not had no problem and
Speaker 1: I'm everyone. I'm something like, I've just been so blessed
Speaker 1: to cover the fortunate. Because that's what you give out.
Speaker 1: You don't give out that I give out that nigga,
Speaker 1: what's up that? That's what dog? Whatver? Yeah? No, not
Speaker 1: for real, but inside you ran nigga, whatever's inside you,
Speaker 1: my nigga, You you put out my nigga because if you,
Speaker 1: if I'm around a hunted robberts my nigga, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put out that whatever you have happened, so you happen
Speaker 1: to you if you give out that what's up? Brother,
Speaker 1: I'm just internally I'm just blessed to be in life. Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Brother? And you show love? But it comes
Speaker 1: back to it comes back to you. I'll figured this
Speaker 1: ship out. I did. I figured it out. I'll still
Speaker 1: be a husband, but I'll figured it out. But let's
Speaker 1: keeps that's his energy run like like I can't play
Speaker 1: that smile song bro like when nobody can know nobody
Speaker 1: could be in the whip. I have to be riding
Speaker 1: along for a long stretch. And yeah, I particularly love Miami.
Speaker 1: I love Miami, always have many time life. So I
Speaker 1: got you to stand with the kings here, man, whether
Speaker 1: it be trigged rigg feeling like they called on me. Man,
Speaker 1: you like you know I still I still with the
Speaker 1: best of it. You know what I mean. So I'm
Speaker 1: solid on that now. You let me just tell you
Speaker 1: man um again. In hip hop, we just want to
Speaker 1: reiterate that we start continuing to pick up all legends.
Speaker 1: We gotta tell you right now in your face, in
Speaker 1: front your queen's face and funt the home your face,
Speaker 1: that how much appreciate it, how much, how much I'm
Speaker 1: a part of your life in facts all of us,
Speaker 1: like I could, I kid, You're not like when I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: we gotta see little anybody's like yo, ship who's happy
Speaker 1: hearing them? When dude, they want to come up. When
Speaker 1: they pulled up, look at look at this gorgeous you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this, this will come here to
Speaker 1: salute you, because that's what that's what I explore my
Speaker 1: crew and my crew. I don't want to tell you
Speaker 1: you were great when you're not here. They're telling you
Speaker 1: you're great right now. So when we finished this, every
Speaker 1: one of these things are gonna want to picture you up.
Speaker 1: I've never made everybody already did that. And you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, and you know that's what. That's what
Speaker 1: when your energy is yea holdingness, you give that as
Speaker 1: a gift. That is a blessing. There's so many people
Speaker 1: that are your stature that is idiots and assholes and
Speaker 1: hate their fans and hate the people. And it's something
Speaker 1: that's noticed about you always as you're always humble, you're
Speaker 1: always down on the earth. You're always talk to whoever
Speaker 1: we want to talk to you. And that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: We're going to salute that one you're sad wan continue
Speaker 1: to print for me or something like that and protect
Speaker 1: me something thoughts and you're well wishes man. Let Carol,
Speaker 1: because I see have too around a certain kind of way.
Speaker 1: I want to spot you know yeah, I think just
Speaker 1: keep me allowed when you see it. Woman to say,
Speaker 1: anyone has never told you this before in your life.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you everything you did for hip hop,
Speaker 1: everything you did for the group, everything you did from
Speaker 1: the land lad think you did for America, everything you
Speaker 1: did for your city. I want to thank you because
Speaker 1: it's well appreciated over here. You're making me proud of you.
Speaker 1: Gotta take a picture and that