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Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all, Welcome to another episode, Episode one and three,

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Speaker 2: only three that really count, but whatever, I am Bakari sellers,

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Speaker 2: I'm your kind of host. With these three amazing people,

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Speaker 2: we have Andrew Gillim, We're switching it up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna introduce the Fellas first, yes, yes, and then

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Speaker 2: we have Angela Rye and we have the amazing immaculates

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Speaker 2: across and so I just want to say, welcome home.

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Speaker 1: I never remind me of your question. You just triggered me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know.

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Speaker 4: You guys say that.

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Speaker 3: One of the viewer was like, and I got a

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Speaker 3: question of you, and miss Cross, I got a question.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna start with what's on your heart and mind?

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Speaker 2: What's some of the things you want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to start with you.

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Speaker 4: It's so much in the space one we should acknowledge.

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Speaker 4: We're here in Texas. Deal yes, very much like Florida

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Speaker 4: for me. But what's on my heart mind is this

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Speaker 4: shutdown which is now showing up up for a lot

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Speaker 4: of our government workers. It's the first week so the

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Speaker 4: second week that they haven't gotten a check and so

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Speaker 4: thus you know, stuff is getting desperate. We should talk

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Speaker 4: about them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Angel, Yes, I agree, and the pass forward. What

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Speaker 1: can our community do because we've always had to rely

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Speaker 1: on each other when we couldn't rely on the government.

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Speaker 1: I think on that, apparently you can't rely on good

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Speaker 1: information these days. So I want to talk about NAACP's endorsement,

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Speaker 1: alleged endorsement of Abigail Spamberger, which never happened, but we'll

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Speaker 1: get into that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as always, I want to I want to get

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Speaker 3: into this viewer question. We have a viewer question about

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Speaker 3: going into uncomfortable spaces having uncomfortable conversations, and I always

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Speaker 3: like to hear from our viewers, so definitely want to

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Speaker 3: be sure we get to that.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to talk about the verses between cash

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Speaker 2: money and no limit. I don't know if y'all saw.

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Speaker 3: That, but we should because I didn't even know versus

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Speaker 3: was still happening.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe y'all missed that. But that's been good.

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Speaker 5: Huh, Okay, we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But also also on a more serious note, something that

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Speaker 2: we all care about, which is justice, and accountability. It's

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Speaker 2: not justice. You have to be very very clear with

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Speaker 2: your language. Justice is Sonya Massey being here with her family.

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Speaker 2: But accountability is the fact that the officer was found

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Speaker 2: guilty this week of second degree murder of Sonia Massey.

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Speaker 2: So may may your memory be a blessing and may

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Speaker 2: she now be able to rest in peace.

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Speaker 5: Can you just remind the audience what.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Sonia Massy is first of all, the problem

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Speaker 2: that I have is, I guess, like a lot of you,

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Speaker 2: all the litany of names of unarmed African Americans who

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Speaker 2: were gunned down at the hands of state violence. But

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Speaker 2: Sonya Massey, if you recall as someone who actually called

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Speaker 2: nine one one to her home and the officer came in,

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Speaker 2: and you've seen the image in her it looks like

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Speaker 2: her din or living area, and you can see the

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Speaker 2: kitchen in the back, and didn't take long for him

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Speaker 2: to murder her, execute her, kill her in our own home.

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Speaker 5: Didn't she say God bless you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, she did say God bless you. And so I

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Speaker 2: just you know I and you know we're in Houston,

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Speaker 2: We're in Texas. Shout out to Benjamin Crump and others

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Speaker 2: who you know carry that torch and do great work

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Speaker 2: in our communities and very rarely does that tragedy lead

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Speaker 2: to anything other than more tragedy. Yeah, but at least

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Speaker 2: we can get people that there is if you stay

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Speaker 1: And regardless of how they sully the name of it,

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Speaker 1: the point here is black lives still matter, Black lives

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Speaker 1: must matter, black lives do matter.

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Speaker 3: But on the same note of black lives matter, you

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Speaker 3: also wanted to we were talking about on the way

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Speaker 5: Facing Hurricane Melissa. So I know that you wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Just yeah, I get into it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think we're into it. We are definitely

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Speaker 1: in Jamaica, certainly in Haiti, certainly in Cuba. And I

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Speaker 1: think we definitely don't know the full impact of everything

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Speaker 1: that's happened just yet, but we need to be paying

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Speaker 1: attention to that, donating where we can, if y'all can provide, can, goods, services, water,

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Speaker 1: whatever we can do to make sure that we meet

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Speaker 2: Let's start from here, Andrew, let's delve into that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about the government shutdown. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: they were on the government shut down? Yeah, what we

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Speaker 2: It seems like a blur, and people watching I don't

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Speaker 4: I mean, just to say the desperation, I'm not. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's crazy to see people who are on the everyday

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Speaker 4: away for themselves and for their families, and not from

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Speaker 4: a sense of struggling necessarily, but really a sense of empowerment.

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Speaker 4: These are jobs, careers that they aim for, they got them,

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Speaker 4: and to one day be secured in that position, bringing

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Speaker 4: regularly obligated to do, rent, mortgage, food, so on and

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Speaker 4: so forth, and maybe even leisure in life. So now

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Speaker 4: find yourself standing in a food bank line has to

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Speaker 4: be more than a blow to just your stomach, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there is so many questions of how do

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Speaker 4: I get here? How did we get here? How did

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Speaker 4: the government go from being an institution that's supposed to

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Speaker 4: exist to uplift and to support us and to have

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Speaker 4: It is the catch safe. But what happens when that

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Speaker 4: government comes right the problem? It becomes the crisis it

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Speaker 4: is self invented. And then the president doesn't care enough

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Speaker 4: to see it resolved, to back from Asia, maybe not

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Speaker 4: is shuttered. His own government. Employees across the range of

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Speaker 4: the federal government, the largest employer in the in the

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Speaker 4: United States, not having the basic needs that they need

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Speaker 4: to survive. And the fact that we have a Republican

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Speaker 4: of government. It's a shame that they can't keep it open.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was thinking about even more than that.

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Speaker 2: You know, these maga talking points of America first, and

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Speaker 2: we just spent forty billion dollars bailing out Argentina. And

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Speaker 2: even when people talk about snap benefits and EBT. I

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Speaker 2: had a friend of mine who just texted me two

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Speaker 2: days ago. I was talking to Ellen about it, and

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Speaker 2: you know, he was like, can you help me with Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: Because you know we're not our EBT is not going

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Speaker 2: to be starting the first It's just not going to

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Speaker 2: be the same. So, you know, I've been thinking about this,

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Speaker 2: like that's where I'm from. You know, Denmark, South Carolina

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Speaker 2: is a poor rural community, Bamberg, poor rural community. So

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Speaker 2: how do I stand in the gap a community that

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Speaker 2: sure that we do these? So I got my partners

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Speaker 2: tangible thing you're doing to make sure that you have

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Speaker 2: the cans of And I don't even know if everybody

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Speaker 2: who's who's watching this fully grasp it. I think many do,

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Speaker 2: but not everybody. But you have like the cans of

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Speaker 2: have that fellowship that is Thanksgiving because we're here now,

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Speaker 2: but coming up, you know, in a couple of days,

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Speaker 2: those those cards aren't aren't going to be refilled.

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Speaker 1: There there are some places where they're already not like

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Speaker 1: out of commission. There's no snap. And for those of

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Speaker 1: you at home, food stamps are also what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I think that because we're saying EBT and SNAP and

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Speaker 1: we all do it interchangeably. If you have the car,

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Speaker 1: you know as EBT, right. But I think there are

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Speaker 1: a few things. One is there's a woman I saw

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Speaker 1: to understand is normally people are providing food around the

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Speaker 1: holidays in particular, but there are people hungry right now.

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Speaker 1: And this is not a shot to what you're saying

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Speaker 1: at all. It's important too, but like, how do we

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Speaker 1: make sure that we okay, that we answer the call,

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Speaker 1: literally answer the call, no matter where it's ringing, and

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Speaker 1: hope you'll get to it quickly. Because at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, we are all we have. There is

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Speaker 1: no reason why we can't meet the needs, especially when

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Speaker 1: so many of us have an abundance. I will tell

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Speaker 1: you just this one point. This is actually shameful. I

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Speaker 1: throw away so much food. I order a lot of food.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know, Like we sit down and we eat, and

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Speaker 1: we want to try all the things. Maybe now the

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll just tell you I have someone in my

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Speaker 3: immediate family. As we've talked about, who gets food stamps,

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Speaker 3: and even the amount that people get is not a

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Speaker 3: robust amount, and there are so many restrictions on how

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Speaker 3: you can spend the money now. Thankfully, in my family,

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Speaker 3: you know, I can subsidize the needs of my immediate

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Speaker 3: at a reassessment of my finances and a reassessment of hers,

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Speaker 3: because what I've tried to say is when this benefit

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Speaker 3: will return. And so even though SNAP benefits are from

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Speaker 3: the federal government, they are administered by the states, and

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Speaker 3: so states have the option to tap into emergency funding

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Speaker 3: to keep this going. But the thing is if they

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Speaker 3: tap into that, that will take away from something else.

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Speaker 3: And I think the danger is a lot of people,

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Speaker 3: when you're hungry, you don't care, and we're looking at

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Speaker 3: people I'm in such a place of privilege that I

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Speaker 3: can subsidize my family. But there is actually a lot

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Speaker 3: of sound from people in these food lines to your point,

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Speaker 3: who definitely need the help, Like this woman here.

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Speaker 4: They were the subsidizers.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 4: We didn't hurt anybody.

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Speaker 5: We don't deserve this.

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Speaker 4: The work requirement is the point.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing that I think we have to

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Speaker 1: They have the ability to fund snap benefits for three weeks,

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Speaker 4: I value that, Angela. The resilience of people. Yeah, is

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Speaker 6: To do this with you, give God some praise for

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Speaker 4: But I got peace knowing that I was hearing the voice.

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Speaker 6: Since March, three hundred thousand black women have lost their jobs.

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Speaker 4: The Holy Spirit arrested me in prayer.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that we can still find social

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Speaker 3: The challenges though, because we're talking about snap benefits, there

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Speaker 4: I you know, I have two minds, and this may

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Speaker 4: And if this week we can pay a soldiers, and

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Speaker 4: This is the US government. Our elected officials have spent

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Speaker 1: This is also about appropriating funds to authorization measures, so

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Speaker 4: Is the largest American wealth. But but it's not.

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Speaker 1: Just that peace. There's also impoundments. There's there's all they're

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying, Timothy me pronounced his name. It's not anonymous.

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Speaker 4: Already, half of ideas stand that this is individual and largest.

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Speaker 5: So that's right.

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Speaker 5: I have a question for you.

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Speaker 3: Like you, there's a whatever you know when you're getting

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Speaker 3: your paycheck and you can opt out, saying like, no.

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Speaker 1: Either went to jail for that.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm telling you, if people have been responding ready across.

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Speaker 2: Line, let me tell you what's going on targets. First, Okay,

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Speaker 2: them fees and fines gonna add up so quick your

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Speaker 2: head gonna spend, and then you're gonna get that letter

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Speaker 2: saying it's a lean and then you're gonna be like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm militant, I'm gonna opt out, and then you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have that agent knock at your door. And then by

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Speaker 2: that time you're going to whatever low load middle to

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Speaker 2: low low load security camp.

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Speaker 3: Like you have a tax bill, I mean your paycheck

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Speaker 3: that you get every two.

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Speaker 1: We understand exactly what you're saying. I'm saying when you

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Speaker 1: mark zero withholdings and protesting because I'm gonna keep my

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Speaker 1: tax dollars because I don't like how you spending my

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Speaker 1: tax dollars. You are going to go to jail.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're gonna pay me.

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Speaker 1: You didn't spend your money on a new car that

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Speaker 1: you thought you wasn't.

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Speaker 5: It You talking about tears.

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Speaker 1: We talk about terrors too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Where they put Wesley Snipes.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Respectfully, this is a white people conversation that we can

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Speaker 1: to see. I asses out of.

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Speaker 2: Like, regardless of who caused this, and I know that's

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Speaker 2: kind of hard to separate, but regardless of who caused this,

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Speaker 2: and some viewers are gonna be like, whatever, you can't

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Speaker 2: say regardless.

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Speaker 5: Of what the Republicans caused it.

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Speaker 2: But regardless of that fact, right period, regardless of that fact,

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Speaker 2: for a lot of people, their trusting government is going

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Speaker 2: to be broken, shattered. But I'm just saying, so how

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Speaker 2: do we how do we rebuild that? I mean, we

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Speaker 2: have we have so many important things coming up that

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Speaker 2: are going to require those people who now have a

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Speaker 2: And if it was distrustful, it's damn sure distrustful. Now

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Speaker 2: it's like not getting caught cheating once, but damn you know,

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Speaker 2: got cault cheating twice.

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Speaker 4: These people can't forget who is causing the suffering. These

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Speaker 4: people can't. They can no longer continue to disconnect their

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Speaker 4: everyday lives from what is happening. But they don't pick

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Speaker 4: they don't, they may not, but about what they do

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Speaker 4: to me? What it is that we about what we

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Speaker 4: have to do? Because right now, the reason why our

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Speaker 4: framer said you have a democracy if you can keep

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Speaker 4: it correct, it's because they knew that if left our

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Speaker 4: own devices meet, we might take our eye off the

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Speaker 4: ball and say, let them do what they're doing over here.

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Speaker 4: I'm living my life and we.

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Speaker 2: Know it's not even a democracy. But that's a whole correct.

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Speaker 4: My only point is is for anybody who is confused

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Speaker 4: about one who started it and who caused it, and

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Speaker 4: while we're still experiencing it, do not be confused in

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Speaker 4: the future when we are talking about who created the

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Speaker 4: worst man made suffering that we've experienced so far modern

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Speaker 4: day time. Man made this is and it's the federal government.

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Speaker 4: But I'm Republican.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing that I want y'all to consider, okay,

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Speaker 1: and that is when you are suffering the harm and

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Speaker 1: experiencing the pain and facing the consequence, is you don't

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Speaker 1: really care, but you must. I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Because I've been there. I know on the side of suffering.

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Speaker 4: I am some days now on the side of suffering.

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Speaker 1: I understand.

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Speaker 4: I am saying we cannot have a short term marriage.

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Speaker 2: That is the problem.

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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. I think there is a

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Speaker 1: huge gulf between. There's a huge gulf between you must

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Speaker 1: and I can't, and we have to figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to bridge it because until you're out of your suffering,

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Speaker 1: you I don't even know, and I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: project this on anyone, but I don't even know. If

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Speaker 1: it's humankind can process whose fault it is. You're just

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Speaker 1: enrage that you're experiencing, especially when it's not by any

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Speaker 1: means anything that you did that.

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Speaker 2: I can't articulate the point any better. I hear your.

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Speaker 1: Must how I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna tell you how. I'm gonna tell you how one

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Speaker 2: the people who we vote for currently, how the onus

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Speaker 2: on them to show up Like our Democratic attorney generals,

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Speaker 2: they during this moment have to be filing suit have

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Speaker 2: to be doing those things.

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Speaker 4: Let's speak of the House of the Republicans who haven't

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Speaker 4: been to work since.

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking about things people like literally can see,

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Speaker 2: touch and care about. Right. The other thing is the

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Speaker 2: other thing is which I'm gonna say, is that the

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Speaker 2: CBC and a lot of the Democratic Caucus members have

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Speaker 2: just gone somewhat invisible. You don't see them out, You're

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Speaker 2: not hearing from them at these town hall meetings, in

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Speaker 2: these streets. You're not seeing them launching these food banks.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they're not doing it, But what

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Speaker 2: I am saying is that we're not commanding that attention

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Speaker 2: on our efforts. The next thing I will say is

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Speaker 2: that twenty twenty six becomes even that much more important

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Speaker 2: because if Democrats get control of the House, people are

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Speaker 2: going to be looking at them. This is going to

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Speaker 2: be one of the more consequential elections for Democrats because

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Speaker 2: they're going to be looking at us to provide tangible

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Speaker 2: resources even in a very lopsided government, because they have

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Speaker 2: this fundamental distrust and the golf is getting bigger and

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Speaker 2: bigger for both parties.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like, I hear what you say. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to and I'm always going to be the CBC bias,

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Speaker 1: but like, how do you expect for them to go

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Speaker 1: out and do these things? They are in a fight

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Speaker 1: for their lives most of them. They are doing them.

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Speaker 1: They're not breaking through, they're not covering them. That's certainly

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Speaker 1: the truth, and I agree with that. I agree. I'm

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Speaker 1: not fighting, y'all, I'm a grant. But I also think

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Speaker 1: that they are also put on their heels because they're

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Speaker 1: in the fight for their lives, just protecting their seats.

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Speaker 1: Every single we like the caucus will likely shrink to

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Speaker 1: have its size correct. So not only are they going

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Speaker 1: to have to go out to try to win elections

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Speaker 1: in districts that they've not running before, the makeup is

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Speaker 1: so different. So we're asking them to carry a responsibility

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Speaker 1: that they should as public servants. But also with this

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Speaker 1: new found district, these new constituents they don't know, may

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Speaker 1: not carry.

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Speaker 2: The thing is yeah, So what I'm asking of the

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Speaker 2: CBC and the Democratic Caucus is during extraordinary times to

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Speaker 2: put forth extraordinary effort. And that's what every nothing you

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Speaker 2: said is incorrect. Yes, some of them just.

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Speaker 4: Don't know how we form our face to ask Democrats

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Speaker 4: who are already doing the things that we're demanding, except

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Speaker 4: not getting coverage for it, to take on another thing

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Speaker 4: while then not a not holding Republicans don't care, but

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Speaker 4: they've done a care because these new seats will include voters.

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Speaker 2: Why do I like?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 2: I mean I can I can, in one hand say

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Speaker 2: Democrats need to do more and not only and if

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Speaker 2: they are doing more, we need to make sure you.

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Speaker 4: Be any of this. When you said no one cares

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Speaker 4: about who is responsible.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm saying that there, I didn't say no one.

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Speaker 2: I said there's a group of people out the voters

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Speaker 2: who who simply don't care. I mean, that's a fact.

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Speaker 2: What I'm also saying is that I can say that

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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson is the most feckless Speaker of the House

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Speaker 2: we've ever had in the history of this countraest. He's

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Speaker 2: completely what's the A word, advocated duty to Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: to run the house right and and has he done

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Speaker 2: a food and dune. But my other point is that

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Speaker 2: during these extraordinary times, we're talking about people going hungry

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Speaker 2: right right, and so I'm waiting for you know, just

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Speaker 2: thinking outside the box. I'm just making this up. I'm

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Speaker 2: waiting for the Democratic Caucus poor Rule community tour just

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Speaker 2: handing out turkeys, right and then and then visiting visiting

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Speaker 2: local because I feel like and I know that sounds

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Speaker 2: really like small or No.

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Speaker 4: I think that's marketing and they should do marketing. But

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Speaker 4: this is where I don't know how we can I

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Speaker 4: don't know how we can be insensed about people not

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Speaker 4: eating and then no, not just you, all of us.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we can be insisted about people

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Speaker 4: not being able to eat, but then tac political and

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Speaker 4: strategic about how to resolve this, because at this moment

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Speaker 4: the resolution is right in front of our eyes. The

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Speaker 4: people who have the ability to end this are choosing

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Speaker 4: not to. Mike Johnson was the Speaker of the House

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Speaker 4: where the greatest disagreement exists right now. Hasn't called the

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Speaker 4: members of Congress back to Washington since the government got

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Speaker 4: damned closed. Democrats have been in Washington, and it been

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Speaker 4: told to be within two hours or four hours distance

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Speaker 4: from Washington in DC. Since the government closed, they've been

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Speaker 4: there on the clock, wording right. So what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: the reason why all of this feels small is because

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Speaker 4: we are not I think I think the problem is

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Speaker 4: you among us. I think we are using a fly

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Speaker 4: swatter by way of approach of how.

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Speaker 2: To fix it. I think that the can I think

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Speaker 2: that the cancer that we're not.

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Speaker 4: Address these people from having to be responded.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's releasing them.

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Speaker 4: It is a release when we say it isn't if

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Speaker 4: my mama saying that it was ch The reason why

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Speaker 4: the expectation is where it is, the reason why expectations

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Speaker 4: is where it is is because people who have the

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Speaker 4: license to set expectations differently are capitulating. But he's saying,

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Speaker 4: I know y'all not going to keep score about this,

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Speaker 4: But I.

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Speaker 2: Just that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying,

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, what I am clearly saying, is that

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Speaker 2: we have a cancer in this country that is only metastasizing, right,

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Speaker 2: And I hear your point about what is going on

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Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. But what I'm also saying is

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Speaker 2: that there are fundamentally people who are being affected by

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Speaker 2: this who don't necessarily care who broke it, right, who

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Speaker 2: don't care who broke it? And if we don't, if

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Speaker 2: we don't address this problem, then that cancer of distrust,

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Speaker 2: that cancer of apprehension is going to metastasize. And what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying is that it's going to be so far

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Speaker 2: beyond repair. And yes, this is of Donald Trump's doing.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to sow in this distrust.

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Speaker 4: So the drive is the South.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no. That first of all, that's no.

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Speaker 2: That's simply an example of an actionable item that can

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Speaker 2: be on a list of a million actionable items. Is

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Speaker 2: the marketing a part of it, Yes, because people.

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Speaker 4: Want just as the time ball meeting, they can do

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Speaker 4: that might get a food back at the end. But

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Speaker 4: we want to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: And that, you know what, then then we let's do both.

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no either or. But what I am

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Speaker 2: saying is that saying that saying that this is where

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Speaker 2: I think your idea fails because saying that you are

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Speaker 2: in Washington, DC and I have to be two to

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Speaker 2: four hours away from the count I said it and

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Speaker 2: I'm fighting for you is not enough.

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Speaker 4: That was the information for you. But what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: what I actually said, was the solutions that we are

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Speaker 4: proffering do not meet the scale of the child. Because

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Speaker 4: I pose the question, so happy to have help on

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Speaker 4: this one. Stop letting people off of who's responsible for us, notution,

659
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Speaker 4: not for you, for anyone who may be condemented.

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Speaker 2: That's not a tangible solution.

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Speaker 4: It is if you let me finish, get the answer.

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Speaker 4: That's number one. Let me give you number one, because

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Speaker 4: number one is the most important part. This is the

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Speaker 4: piece of Democrats keep losing elections for which is forgetting

665
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Speaker 4: how we got here, forgiving everybody who got us here

666
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Speaker 4: and then letting they ask is off the hook wom

667
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Speaker 4: we're back in power and need to hold them accountable.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So the reason why I start an end and anytime

670
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about this, I'm going to do it to

671
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Speaker 4: tell you who bought this suffering to you is because

672
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Speaker 4: largely it's out of most people's minds about whose fault

673
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Speaker 4: because they don't really follow the process that closely. But

674
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Speaker 4: when people know very clearly who bought them to the

675
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Speaker 4: well or who kept them from the well, they know

676
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Speaker 4: how to penalize their ass when they get the chance to.

677
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Speaker 4: I may be down today, but tomorrow I'm coming for you.

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Speaker 4: I know who you are. I think it's important, not

679
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Speaker 4: a nice to have and not a throwaway line. It

680
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Speaker 4: is a mandatory thing to do, to tell people who

681
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Speaker 4: has their foot on your neck. Number two, we have

682
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Speaker 4: to do obviously mutual ae anywhere we have the opportunity

683
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Speaker 4: in our communities to be the first line of response

684
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Speaker 4: for our folks. That's from the elected to the local

685
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: parties to the neighbor. Right, you show up for each other,

686
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Speaker 4: for one another, and the best way that we can

687
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Speaker 4: in this moment, more churches need to pick up on

688
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Speaker 4: the effort a Pastor Bryan and first Lady carry where

689
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Speaker 4: they set the example for, Yeah we got to keep

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Speaker 4: the lights on. Yeah we got to pay the mortgage

691
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Speaker 4: to this big church. And it does make me a

692
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Speaker 4: little bit nervous when we start messing with that. But

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Speaker 4: the moment requires an outsized response, not the typical, but

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Speaker 4: an outsized response so they're going to do what they

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Speaker 4: can from where their respective places are These food banks

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Speaker 4: that you talked about earlier, who are right now going

697
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Speaker 4: to be an increased demand, and who are their demand.

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Speaker 2: Will also whose supply is actually decreasing.

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Speaker 4: Sure, and guess what else, Now you are multiplying the

700
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Speaker 4: needers because you took the people who are every day

701
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Speaker 4: perpetually finding themselves in this cycle, and now you've laid

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Speaker 4: on top of them folks who were part of the

703
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 4: giving class. These are folks who are paying ties and offerings,

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Speaker 4: they were volunteering at local organizations. They're what we would call,

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Speaker 4: quote the responsible citizen, doing what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: So you've not met taken that group of people, set

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Speaker 4: them on top of this. On top of that, the

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Speaker 4: stuff coming in isn't at the level that it needs

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Speaker 4: to be, and so you have fewer supplies, a greater demand,

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Speaker 4: all of it brought to you by the Republican leadership

711
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Speaker 4: in Washington, DC, who could not care less about your suffering,

712
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Speaker 4: not only because the suffering is the point, but they

713
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Speaker 4: can't care less. They can't care less because their incentive

714
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 4: structure is different. They don't necessarily count on your vote anymore.

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Speaker 4: In fact, as far as they're concerned, they wish they

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Speaker 4: would no vote ever to be had again. They only

717
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Speaker 4: get to exist in this space because the billion as

718
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 4: who are backing them running separate elon Musk million dollars

719
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Speaker 4: if you vote efforts and they think they can overcome democracy.

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Speaker 4: What is that they think they can overcome it?

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Speaker 1: I really appreciated this conversation. I know we're not done,

722
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Speaker 1: but I just want to say I get your point.

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Speaker 1: My frustration with the who is to blame is I

724
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Speaker 1: have anxiety around solving the problem. But I under I

725
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Speaker 1: understand when you said it that way, when you got

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Speaker 1: through your whole one A, B and C. I get it.

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Speaker 1: But I also feel like I just want us to

728
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Speaker 1: move different and I wonder if we're at the phase

729
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Speaker 1: now where we have to lead by example.

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Speaker 2: So thank you that think.

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Speaker 1: Jump in, go ahead, double du.

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Speaker 2: No, go ahead. I was sitting go ahead. I always

733
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Speaker 2: tell people that that being a pastor and being elected official.

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Speaker 1: You a pastor, no, okay, good, he's in, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Gotta say, being an a pastor and being an elected

736
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Speaker 2: official are two professions that have something very much in common.

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Speaker 2: It's that people expect more from you than they expect

738
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Speaker 2: from themselves. And Andrew, I go on TV every single

739
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Speaker 2: night and articulate number one, Right, I articulate number one

740
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Speaker 2: in your point and whose foot is on your neck

741
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Speaker 2: so you're blue in the face. I'm with you on that.

742
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Speaker 2: What people are missing in that moment of distrust that

743
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the people who we're in the barbershops with,

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Speaker 2: the people who are who we run into, the people

745
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Speaker 2: who are in you know, maybe not in our clubs,

746
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Speaker 2: maybe not in the Links or Jack and Jill, but

747
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: maybe they are the people who are making sure that

748
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Speaker 2: our trains run on time in our respective communities. That

749
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Speaker 2: is secondary to them. Their pain is what's primary to them,

750
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Speaker 2: and they want to see And you may not be

751
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: able to fix everything. You may not be able to

752
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Speaker 2: pay their rent, you may not be able to get

753
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Speaker 2: them meals every single night. But they are missing individuals

754
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Speaker 2: doing number two of what you said, I hear you,

755
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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying that we have to hold our people,

756
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Speaker 2: the ones that are listening to us during this moment

757
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: of extraordinary times. We have to ask them to have

758
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Speaker 2: extraordinary effort and actually listen. They are But I was

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Speaker 2: going to end I was just gonna end this on

760
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Speaker 2: this scripture real quick, because I believe that's where I started.

761
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Speaker 2: But it's the Book of James. And we become a

762
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Speaker 2: party of faith all the time. We always, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, we are faithful people, but we have faith

764
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Speaker 2: in our elected officials. But it teaches you that faith

765
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Speaker 2: without works.

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Speaker 4: Is this just a straw man argument, is what I hear.

767
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Speaker 4: But I don't like these people who you're talking about,

768
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Speaker 4: our listeners, the ones who are going the extra mile

769
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Speaker 4: trying to take care of folks to make sure that

770
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Speaker 4: they have what they need, which is what we have

771
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Speaker 4: always done always.

772
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Speaker 2: I can't gonna do that.

773
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Speaker 4: They're doing it, and so I don't understand why it

774
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Speaker 4: doesn't make sense to compliment and to encourage more of that.

775
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't even think that this is the thing.

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Speaker 4: I can say, one, two, and three. They're all one.

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Speaker 2: We need one?

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00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: Why are we in need? Is one?

779
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: How do we.

780
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Speaker 4: Meet in need? Is one?

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Speaker 3: But also you guys.

782
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: Me, then then then we don't make exceptions. We don't

783
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Speaker 4: then tell something, I mean, all of us, we don't

784
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: say who's the blame? And they say, but they shouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: I got some mistake to head on it for you

786
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Speaker 1: to consider since Stiff said, I like the bag, she

787
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Speaker 1: didn't want me in it. But I'm gonna claim my

788
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: time real quick. Here's the only thing. There are some

789
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Speaker 1: who are meeting the moment, it's not sufficient. And so

790
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Speaker 1: I do think for those who have been struggling with

791
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Speaker 1: how to meet the moment because they're like, I'm still

792
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: in shock about what moment it is, they do need

793
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Speaker 1: to get some Okay, why don't you do a free

794
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: turkey giveaway? They do need some of that urging, not

795
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Speaker 1: because this is their fault or they're doing but because

796
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Speaker 1: you're in the minority. So when you're in the minority,

797
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: you are in the minority. I'm talking about. No, the

798
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: Democratic Party is in the minority in the House and

799
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: the Senate, they are. But but what I'm saying thing

800
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Speaker 1: is when you're in the minority, you have an obligation

801
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: to show people what life and politics could be like

802
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: if you were in charge. And I think some of that.

803
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: And what it should be is that you don't have

804
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Speaker 4: to do a turkey drive this weekend. No, what it

805
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 4: should be is we gotta pay people with the goddamn

806
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 4: money they are worth. Wetta we should be. No, I'm

807
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: just saying.

808
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: No, this isn't the same Sure, no, because.

809
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 4: It's not the same thing. I want to make the

810
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: point of difference clears.

811
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Speaker 2: I need to go to miss Cross.

812
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: It's simply to say it is not enough for what

813
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: you when you're a democratic for elected to just show

814
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Speaker 4: up and be at the Hamburger Drive. If you're there

815
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 4: at the Hamburger Drive and you're not letting people know

816
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: why we're here, let me finish and what has to

817
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: happen through the system. Yes, how this whole ship has

818
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: to reform because Turkey drives again in six months or

819
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Speaker 4: six weeks.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, But I think the only part

821
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Speaker 1: I think you're missing from me. I'm not going to

822
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Speaker 1: speak for me or for TIF. I know TIF. It's

823
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Speaker 1: trying to weigh is. I'm saying it is that and

824
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: some thing else. It is an alternative solution. It is

825
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Speaker 1: not just like we're here to fight back against what

826
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Speaker 1: they're doing. We are not in resistance. We are in opposition.

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Speaker 1: Here's what the vision could be, Here's what it looks

828
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Speaker 1: like it feels like to be with me. That is

829
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Speaker 1: not being clearly articulated.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows. What I'm saying is that people want to

831
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Speaker 2: see and feel that concrete action. And that's not that's

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Speaker 2: not a solve, that's not a bomb to the bomb

833
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Speaker 2: BA l M to the crisis that's happening up there.

834
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Speaker 2: But what it does do is help us with this

835
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Speaker 2: cancer that's metastasizing in our own communities, one that we

836
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: act like doesn't exist. And that's the trust deficit. And

837
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Speaker 2: that's the trust deficit because there has been an action

838
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Speaker 2: in our communities, and there has been an action. And

839
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Speaker 2: so let's talk about this other point real quick because

840
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Speaker 2: we don't have that much time left. But what about

841
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Speaker 2: the candidates that are running for office? I mean, listen,

842
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Speaker 2: one of the states that's most important right now now,

843
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: two of the states that are most important, and I

844
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: hope people are watching. You want to change some you're

845
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Speaker 2: talking about changing and putting your your your foot to

846
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Speaker 2: the pedal or your shoulder to the will. We got

847
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Speaker 2: elections in New Jersey with Mikey Cheryl, and we got

848
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Speaker 2: elections in Virginia with Abigail Spamberger, and so we.

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Speaker 1: In California ballot initiative.

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Speaker 2: And Proposition fifty. So I mean, we have things that

851
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Speaker 2: really really matter here. And not only that, but Mikey

852
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: Cheryl needs Newark County black, I mean the city of

853
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Speaker 2: Newark black folk to come out. And it's a whole

854
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 2: bushel of black folk in Virginia at Abigail Spamberg and needs.

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Speaker 4: Or New Jersey states if these candidates are actually talking

856
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Speaker 4: about what change they're creating. So I can't say that that's.

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Speaker 3: I also think at this time, when people are suffering,

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Speaker 3: and as much that black people have poured into this country,

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Speaker 3: that we ask of them again. We're asking of them

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Speaker 3: again while the government is not living in service to you,

861
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: we're asking you to live in service to these candidates,

862
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Speaker 3: which is.

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Speaker 4: A lot of all a lot of to be made, right.

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Speaker 3: But I think to your point, Andrew, I think is

865
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Speaker 3: really important for us to contextualize. And I love how

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Speaker 3: you detail what because so many people ask what can

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Speaker 3: be done? So I really love the intellectual exchangement. I'm coming.

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Speaker 3: I'm really because I think I think you both made

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Speaker 3: good points.

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Speaker 2: This clearly articulates my point here, and this is what

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Speaker 2: I was talking about on a campaign. The messaging that

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Speaker 2: Andrew was talking about usually suffices, right.

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Speaker 4: What you're talking about usually is efficient, but is what

874
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Speaker 4: they do.

875
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Speaker 2: But the camp, what what I'm talking about is the

876
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Speaker 2: campaign of reinforcing the messaging of who's to blame, how

877
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Speaker 2: I will be the change, who's putting your foot on?

878
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: But right now, right now, during this time, we need

879
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Speaker 2: these campaigns to be more action oriented, particularly in our communities,

880
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: and using your campaign as a vessel to do number one, one,

881
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Speaker 2: one one.

882
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Speaker 1: As you were saying, Andrew, and Andrew, I just have

883
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: to say this. Andrew knows this firsthand, like you can

884
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: be as smart ass. Hold on, you've been a smart ass.

885
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: But Andrew literally did this on his campaign. It was

886
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Speaker 1: a tipping point for your campaign.

887
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: You didn't just.

888
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Speaker 1: Go and say, you know what you guys should do?

889
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: You a protest?

890
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: He went down.

891
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I said.

892
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Speaker 2: I've read I read six hundred and fifty questionnaires and

893
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Speaker 2: one of the things I viewers don't like is cross talk.

894
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Speaker 1: So he actually didn't read it.

895
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Speaker 2: But keep going, Angel, if you could complete your thought,

896
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Speaker 2: and Andrew d is this my camera see how the

897
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Speaker 2: show runs smoothly?

898
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Speaker 4: You know what I was saying is looking when we

899
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Speaker 4: were providing mutual aid to folks, I would never get

900
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Speaker 4: out there providing mutual eight without disconnect, allowing people to

901
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 4: be disconnected from why we're experiencing what we're experiencing. And

902
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 4: so I would say anybody saying either in saying and

903
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: painting the picture, I'm saying, we may not, we may

904
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Speaker 4: not buy our conversation feel like there's a there's as

905
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Speaker 4: I feel the distance greatly because I feel, particularly in

906
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Speaker 4: our political environment where the elected officials are coming out

907
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: and doing service to some of these points but don't

908
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 4: feel any of it. So I can say the Republicans

909
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 4: have bought us Da Da Da Da Da Dad and

910
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 4: number two, but I need you to go out this

911
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 4: Thursday and vote, so we send them a lesson and

912
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 4: then their next that'sments like buses or rides to the polls.

913
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: That's pretty statutorily what you do. What I'm saying is

914
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 4: the moment is requiring something bigger. You can talk about

915
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: the fact that we're right here at a food drive

916
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: and I'm as unhappy about being here as I have

917
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: ever been about doing anything in my life. Not because

918
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: I don't believe we should be first aid to one another.

919
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: We've always been that. But in the wealthiest nation and

920
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: all the world in all time, why are we standing

921
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 4: out here begging each other for some chicken?

922
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Speaker 1: It's my pleasure to serve you, but I resent the nature.

923
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 4: I have to tell you about how we got so

924
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: let me tell you we got to acknowledge that, and

925
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Speaker 4: then let's talk about the kind of world we can have.

926
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Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. I think we have to be

927
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Speaker 2: very forward looking. But I think the word service has changed.

928
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: I think that service is more than the traditional service

929
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Speaker 2: of you getting on your plane and going to Washington, DC.

930
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: And I think the word service has become bigger, and

931
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Speaker 2: I think that it has to become more because these are.

932
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Speaker 4: It's the people who give service to the word.

933
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Speaker 2: And the reason we're in this, the reason we're in

934
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Speaker 2: this predicament with people in their trust deficit, is because

935
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Speaker 2: we haven't held our people accountable for disagree.

936
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Speaker 4: The trust deficit that I think we are experiencing is systematic.

937
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: It is not by accident. We didn't stumble upon it.

938
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Speaker 4: People are not at a level of distrust for no reason.

939
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Speaker 4: And largely and largely it has not been about the

940
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Speaker 4: government shutdown.

941
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Speaker 2: That is.

942
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Speaker 4: That is so I would just say this, it's been building,

943
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Speaker 4: and I would say it has been methodically inserted in

944
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Speaker 4: the process. To how you destroy democracies is by you

945
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 4: take the most capable, biggest, giant, most consistently deliverable entity

946
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 4: in all the land, and you break it apart, piece

947
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Speaker 4: by piece, so that one day you show up for

948
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Speaker 4: a jury duty and the summons that was sent to

949
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Speaker 4: you was done in era. You shouldn't be here this

950
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Speaker 4: morning at seven thirty to note yourself, do not respond

951
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: to the next jury dutey something, because they don't got

952
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 4: that shit together in the first place. They're gonna let

953
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 4: us out. Okay, now we're at the state Unemployment office. Oh,

954
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 4: you can't get those benefits, ma'am, because it shows that

955
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 4: you have not been consistently every day for X number

956
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 4: of hours looking for a job for the last thirty days. Therefore,

957
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 4: you will not get the benefits that you were looking

958
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 4: forward to for this next month. Good luck paying your RAMT, mortgage, food, clothing,

959
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 4: so on and so forth. Okay, well, now it's turn

960
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: to page Now I'm showing up for my Social Security

961
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: check and that's been on time ever since Dadada, it

962
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: ain't coming this week. Those locally grown farms who produce

963
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 4: for the Local Share program, the Local Share program which

964
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Speaker 4: then gives kids who don't have reliable meals on the

965
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: weekends food they can take home in a grocery bag.

966
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 4: But they mama then make food for over the weekend. Oh,

967
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Speaker 4: those didn't show up. So it's the systemic and it

968
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Speaker 4: isn't by accident, right, Russell volks Vogue is not wondering

969
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 4: how people are going to be fed this weekend. He

970
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 4: is not wondering how government employees are going to make

971
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Speaker 4: ends meet or what TSA worker shows up with the

972
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 4: wrong attitude today, although well deserved because they get to

973
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Speaker 4: pay their bills this month, is going to do something

974
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Speaker 4: that then provocates another incident that causes I don't know,

975
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: maybe the busiest airport in all the world to be

976
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 4: shut down. Right, so they then do there's crisis at

977
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Speaker 4: the crisis at the crisis at the crisis they all

978
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Speaker 4: created is the common denominator that then causes people to say,

979
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Speaker 4: I can't trust this is the thing you wanted to

980
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: lean lean on d D. And then the day when

981
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: you need them, the democracy is gone and they're not responding.

982
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: Were wondering, why shit you don't respond to A example

983
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: B C D E F da da da da da

984
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 4: da da so all I'm saying is that this isn't never, never,

985
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 4: never take a crisis for granted. Now you're in a

986
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Speaker 4: crisis now, which means we have people's attainment. I think that,

987
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 4: So what are we going to do with the attention

988
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 4: now that we have it? So that it changes?

989
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 2: My only point is that in twenty sixteen, in twenty sixteen,

990
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: Donald Trump made a conscience effort to erode our foundations

991
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: of government, whether or not it's the jurisprudence, whether or not,

992
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: it's our media, whether or not, it's just the fundamental

993
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: tenets of everything we held to be true. We realized that,

994
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: we realized that government was extremely fragile. I like the

995
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: analogy of Donald Trump being a bull in a china shop.

996
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: And the reason I like that analogy is because whenever

997
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: that bull leaves that china shop or dies or whatever,

998
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: that china is forever damaged. You just don't put china

999
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: back together. It's forever damaged, So that the fundamental way

1000
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: that we approach democracy has been forever damaged. I hope so.

1001
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: But my only point is that while all of these

1002
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: things that you enumerated are being ticked off, the problem

1003
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: is that people want to see someone not only fight

1004
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: for them, which they feel is lukewarm at best. We've

1005
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: had that conversation on here whether or not you can

1006
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: meet that moment. But they're also saying, while I'm suffering,

1007
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm watching these things happen. I'm watching these things happen.

1008
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: And so what happens to me and my friends and

1009
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: my family and my colleagues while we're suffering? Here I

1010
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: am and just going to food banks? Is this all

1011
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: that I have? Is this all that government has the offer?

1012
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 2: But I think there's more to the discussion started people discussion.

1013
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, yeah, before.

1014
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: We get out of here, they're gonna get mad at

1015
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: me if I don't do that.

1016
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: I just want to say the audience really quickly that

1017
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 3: we know we said we would talk about other topics.

1018
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 5: I'm na a c.

1019
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: P and the.

1020
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: Spamburger that's the alert.

1021
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: Yes, And we said we would get to viewer questions

1022
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 3: and we definitely will next week.

1023
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 5: So if you have a question, please send it in.

1024
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be clarified, Well, we can get

1025
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: to all of those topics that I know. It's difficult

1026
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 3: and we just go these names out and you don't

1027
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: know who we're talking about or so we will get

1028
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: to all those topics. But I just wanted to acknowledge

1029
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 3: that we told you at the beginning of the show

1030
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: we would and.

1031
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: We'll do that.

1032
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 7: Who cares about truth when the last morning's seen it?

1033
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 5: I have a tta, but you you go, do you know?

1034
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 2: And So to kick off the call to actions, Miss Cross,

1035
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 2: I just want.

1036
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: To say to you, gentlemen, I really enjoy here in

1037
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: the back and forth between you guys. I found it insightful, enlightening.

1038
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: I was sitting here like really enlightened. I had nothing

1039
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: to say. I just wanted to listen. So my call

1040
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: to action to the audience. The past couple of weeks,

1041
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 3: we've had a lot of engagement on our platform. We

1042
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 3: talked about the movement of anti black or insite intellectualism

1043
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: ravaging the black community. We've had guests on and we've

1044
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: had a lot of new viewers pay attention to our platform,

1045
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 3: and weiy in on YouTube, way in on Instagram, share

1046
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: the clips and have conversations about it. I hope on

1047
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: a day like today, where we've talked about really substantive

1048
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: things that are integral to a lot of people's lives,

1049
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: that we will get that same level of engagement, your

1050
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: same opinions, even in disagreement. We welcome that we want

1051
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: to hear from you. This is no matter what your

1052
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: background is, no matter how you consider yourself, no matter

1053
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: if you agree or disagree, everyone is welcome home here.

1054
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: And if you're new to Native Land, this is the

1055
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: type of conversation that we normally have and we would

1056
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: just love to hear from you and see that same

1057
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: level of engagement when it doesn't involve a celebrities podcast,

1058
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: gossip or a beef.

1059
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: Mis right, don't start no beef at home, y'all.

1060
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 4: I would say pologies if I have been offensive to

1061
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 4: anybody during the the you know, the the gravity of

1062
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 4: the moment, it really is demanding I think something more

1063
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: of us, and I think you said that and we agreed.

1064
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: We may have different tactics on how to get there.

1065
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 4: But just like during the campaign when we said the

1066
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 4: sky was gonna fall and you know, Earth was cracking

1067
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 4: and the Savior was returning, today, Uh, it's all pretty

1068
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: much you know, kind of hand, you know, beginning to

1069
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 4: pant itself out. And this is why elections do have consequences.

1070
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Speaker 4: Well for those of us who are sitting on the

1071
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 4: other side of its saying we told you. It has consequences.

1072
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: Consider for a moment that they didn't believe you because

1073
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: they haven't been able to believe you and what you

1074
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: say is going to happen or what you're going to do.

1075
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Speaker 2: Ever, I just said that the whole show.

1076
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: It was just why you're the different tactics, the brilliant one.

1077
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: But to go further there is the American people are yes, resilient,

1078
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 4: and they are lots sterner and made of a lot

1079
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 4: of sterner things. And I think we give them credit

1080
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: for and they're also a lot smarter than we give

1081
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: them credit for. The fact that people can't hold two

1082
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 4: truths at the same time and American politics is ridiculous.

1083
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 4: It is insulting it again. So my call to action

1084
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 4: is believe that people are strong enough to handle a

1085
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 4: multiplicity of facts and situations and occurrences, to be able

1086
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Speaker 4: to dial check them off, deal with them successfully or not,

1087
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Speaker 4: so as they go down the list, and at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day still know what to do next,

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Speaker 4: even if no one has instructed them. It's an intuitive,

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Speaker 4: it's innate, it's guttural, and I bet anyybody who's writing

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Speaker 4: now worried about a meal and can connect who is

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Speaker 4: causing that suffering. We'll get their vengeance.

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Speaker 2: And I hope that we meet this moment and we

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Speaker 2: make sure that those people who are waiting on that meal,

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Speaker 2: we can provide them with some very tangible hope that

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Speaker 2: that meal is coming. And I think that all of

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Speaker 2: our elected officials need to take that extraordinary step to

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Speaker 2: do this. My call to action is very simple. I

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Speaker 2: want everybody watching to, if you live in a red

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Speaker 2: and ask your attorney general to do something. In particular,

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Speaker 2: join the effort to sue the United States Department of Agriculture.

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Speaker 2: Why because there are millions of people who are literally

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Speaker 2: going hungry. And we talk about our faith often, but

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Speaker 2: you have to walk it like you talk it.

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Speaker 4: And I hope that my campaign.

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Speaker 1: From the it was we talked about the campaign anyway.

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Speaker 2: This is episode number three hundred and sixty nine. No,

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Speaker 2: it's not, No, it's not that episode. I'm tripping this episode. Everybody.

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Speaker 2: It feels like I've been here for three hundred episodes

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Speaker 2: days or until the next election. Please like subscribe, Please

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Speaker 2: send all of your complaints.

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Speaker 1: It's till the midterm elections. There is an election for

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Speaker 1: many of us.

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Speaker 2: But I do believe that viewers and listeners are capable

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Speaker 2: to hold two truths. So you know, you know, you

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Speaker 2: know when the elections in in UH Virginia and in

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Speaker 2: UH New Jersey are and you know when the midterms

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Speaker 2: are California. But it's been an honor and a privilege

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Speaker 2: to be able to sit with these amazing people. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I compliment them and tell them how great

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Speaker 2: they are. And I hope that every viewer, everybody who's

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Speaker 2: listening just is truly grateful for what the Native Lamp

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Speaker 2: pod has built. So like subscribe, send all of your

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Speaker 2: hateful men to just to Angela Rye. She will accept

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Speaker 2: them through direct message. And this is what I say.

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Speaker 2: I'm sped to say something like, this is a this

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Speaker 2: is a product of Heart Media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in partnership with Reason, Choice Media and I Heart.

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Speaker 2: I haven't gotten my first check yet, so I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know.

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Speaker 2: Y'll hold of that. Well, when the name is on it,

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Speaker 2: then I'll be able to say it a little bit better.

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Speaker 7: great ship. High level combo politics in a way that

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Speaker 7: you could taste it, then got chested. Politics touches you

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Speaker 2: So get invested.

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Speaker 7: Across the t's and doctor I kill them, got them

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Speaker 7: as sellers, staying on business or why you could have

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