WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Bad Luck 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.640 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:13.640 the Bengals Boot podcast. The You Got Bad Bad Luck addition, 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.239 as Dave Lapham joins me to take a look back 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.799 at the first week of Bengals training camp, including the 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:23.040 calf injury suffered by Joe Burrow. The Bengals Boot Podcast 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.200 is brought to you by pay Corps. More than twenty 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:30.520 nine thousand customers trust Paycore to help them recruit, pay engage, 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:35.360 and retain employees. Learn more at paycoorp dot com. Now 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.800 here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:41.120 edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:45.400 or computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:51.360 the greatest thing since Quarterback on Netflix. By now, you've 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.080 probably heard of the eight part documentary that provides a rare, 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.560 behind the scenes look at what it takes to play 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.440 quarterback in the NFL, as The Seer's focuses on three 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:07.000 qbs throughout the twenty twenty two season, Patrick Mahomes, Kirk Cousins, 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.800 and Marcus Mariota. I watched it and thought it was outstanding, 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.720 but when I asked Joe Burrow about it, he said 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.160 he hadn't watched the show and didn't plan to. When 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:22.039 another reporter asked why, here was Burrow's answer. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:23.920 Would you watch documentary about Hobson? 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.520 That was a reference to legendary Bengals Dot Com editor 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.520 Jeff Hobson. And for the record, I would definitely watch 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.560 a documentary about Jeff. And just to be clear, Burrow 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:43.480 wasn't comparing Mahomes, Cousins and Mariota to the Bengals lovable scribe. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:49.720 Joe simply prefers watching non football shows in his free time. Now, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.080 let's get to the first week of training camp. Perhaps 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:57.200 you've heard of the broadcaster's jinks. For example, if you 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.840 use the words no hitter in the late innings of 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.920 an no no in progress, it's supposedly bad luck. If 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.720 you mentioned that a kicker has made fifteen straight field 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:11.720 goals just before his next attempt, he's bound to miss. Now, 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.480 I don't believe in such a thing, but it almost 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:18.320 felt like there was a reporter's jinx in Cincinnati this week. 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.560 Following the Bengals first practice, Joe Burrow was asked several 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.880 questions about finally having a normal training camp. If you 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.880 remember his rookie year, was impacted by COVID protocols and 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.680 the elimination of preseason games. In his second year, Joe 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.400 was coming back from his gruesome knee injury, and last 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.840 year he had an emergency app in deck to me 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.240 and dropped ten pounds at the beginning of camp. So 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:47.280 I've edited together Joe's answers when he was asked about 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.640 the benefits of being healthy this year at the start 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.720 of training camp. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.760 I'll come would hopefully we'll see. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.000 Yeah, I feel great. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:02:59.160 It was time. 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.720 Last year was sitting in the hospital bed a couple 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.079 of days post surgeries. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.079 So it's it's good to be out there with the guys. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.560 Anytimes you get more reps, the better you're gonna be. 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.359 So when you have four weeks of training camp, you're 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.000 you're gonna be four weeks better than you were if 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:14.200 you didn't get those reps. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.400 And you know, you can't can't. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.720 Waste any of those days because all those days matter, 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:19.160 and you're. 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.280 On a pursuit of constant improvement, and if you waste 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.040 those days, then you know you're wasting your time. You know, personally, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.600 I feel in my position, I don't want to waste 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.080 any of these days that I have to to get better. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.280 I've I've wasted enough days last two years with you know, 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.480 injuries and a pendicitis and COVID the year before that. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.480 You know, I don't I don't want to get out 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.320 of camp wishing that I had, you know, seven more 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.960 days that I could have got better. And so I'm I. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.320 Need these days to to be my best. I know 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.000 I'm gonna be able to get a lot more out 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:54.600 of this training camp than I have the last couple 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.240 as long as I stay healthy. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.840 Which, like I said, knock on wood, nothing's happened yet. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.880 Nothing's happened yet, So much for that. The following day 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.040 at practice, Joe wore a compression sleeve on his lower 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:12.800 right leg, indicating that he probably experienced some minor tightness 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.920 in his calf the day before, not significant enough to 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:20.560 miss practice, but enough to wear a little extra support. Unfortunately, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.200 when the Bengals quarterback attempted to roll out to the 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.839 right near the end of the team's second practice, he 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.719 felt significant pain in his right calf and was immediately 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.240 taken to the training room. Zach Taylor says Joe is 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.480 going to miss several weeks a calf injury. Caused Sam 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.440 Hubbard to miss two weeks late in the regular season. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.000 Last year, he returned for the final game of the 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.440 regular season and had his ninety eight yard fumble in 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.599 the jungle return in the first round of the playoffs. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.960 I know about calf strains all too well, and they're 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.039 really painful and they're you know, they're not the end 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:01.000 of the world, but they do anger a bit. And 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.080 I think that the training staff and Joe are going 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.800 to do the right thing to you know, take care 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.640 of this early in camp and be ready to go. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:12.160 But really early in camp. We'll see what the prognosis is. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:17.000 But you know, he's gonna do everything he can to 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.839 be back out there quickly. And I have faith that, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.720 you know, it's just a bummer because I want him 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.520 to have a healthy training camp. Nobody worked harder this offseason, 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:30.400 and uh, you know whatever, it is just veryes you know, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.360 it's a bummer, and uh, you know, I don't know 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.440 it'll bring the best out of him, for sure, but 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.400 it wouldn't it be nice just to have an easy 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.680 route to Week one for once. But uh, I know 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.400 we'll we'll handle this as a team. He'll handle it, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.919 and uh we'll come out on top like we always do. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.800 Again. Burrow is going to miss several weeks, and while 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.719 he was hoping to play a series or two in 0:05:55.760 --> 0:06:00.960 the preseason, that is almost certainly not going to happen now. Instead, 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.400 the two guys competing to be his backup, Jake Browning 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.839 and Trevor Simeon, will alternate days as the number one 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:12.159 quarterback at practice. Browning is twenty seven years old and 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.279 has been on the Bengals practice squad for the last 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.360 two years after spending his first two NFL seasons on 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.920 the Vikings practice squad. He was the first string quarterback 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.960 in the first practice following burrows gaff injury and had 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.360 a very solid day. 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.160 I don't really know how ready any of your second 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.320 thirsteon quarterbacks are until it's time to actually do it. 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.880 And so yeah, I mean, I think I've been working 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.960 really hard at this for a while, been on a 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.160 lot of practice squads and spend a lot of time 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.279 away from any cameras or getting any reps with ones. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.440 And so I feel like, now that's steel. I got 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.880 a good practice. It's a singular practice, but I feel 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.440 like I'm in a position where he can keep stacking 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.000 some good days and hopefully have some good preseason games 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.560 and hopefully win the backup job. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.960 Trevor Simeon is thirty one years old and entering his 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.640 ninth season in the league with thirty NFL starts under 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.960 his belt. In addition to competing with Browning, he wants 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:13.160 to make sure the offense is running smoothly until Burrow returns. 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.920 There's a certain level of professionalism that you try to have, 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.160 and you know, I don't ask, you know, when I 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:24.000 come in, I make the most of more reps, try 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.000 to run the show as best I can. And it's 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.480 good for me getting these reps with these guys, you know, 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.240 because I'm the new guy, if you want to call 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:31.560 it us. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.760 It's hard to get through training camp with only two 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.560 healthy quarterbacks. So the Bengals have signed Red Sinnate, who 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.160 spent the last three seasons on the practice squads of 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.080 the Buccaneers and Dolphins, as well as ten games on 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.800 the active roster with the Eagles in twenty twenty one. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.560 Sinnate played one game in the USFL this year before 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.160 breaking his foot. 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One of the biggest storylines 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.680 going into training camp was Joe Burrow finally gets a 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.280 chance to go through training camp healthy and unfortunately it 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.120 only lasted for about a day and a half as 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.880 he suffered that calf strain. I'm a recreational runner, as 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.640 you know. I've had some calf issues over the years. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:42.400 They stink, but they heal. The key is don't rush 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:42.840 it back. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.000 Absolutely. I mean that is that is the biggest piece 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.960 of advice that could be given. Because I had one 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.439 a mid calf and I'm like, oh, it feels pretty good. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.880 Can tot raises doing the get out there and doing 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.920 football stuff started tugging like, boy, you know better not 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.480 better take a little bit more time. So it's one 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.080 of those when you feel like you're ready, give it 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.360 another little bit of time to make sure that you're ready, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.440 because if you do exacerbate it, it can get a 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.640 heck of a lot worse quickly, you know, And you 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.760 don't want to be in that situation. You don't want 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.640 to be a nagging thing. I've seen, you know, cap 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.640 injuries now again, initially probably they weren't. They were more 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.439 severe than what Joe's dealing with right now. But man, 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.800 you know, guys, the regular season, the pressures on to 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.680 come back, to come back too early, and they end 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.480 up missing a good part of the season, you know, 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.680 because trying to do too much too soon. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.440 Zach Taylor did not give a specific timetable. He used 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.680 the expression several weeks, and then everybody tried to figure out, well, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.160 how many is several? Is that three? Is that four? 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.160 I think it's more than two. I think we can 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.640 draw that conclusion and probably the best case scenario is 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.880 about three weeks. And obviously the real key is to 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.240 be ready for the season opener, if possible, and I 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.439 think that's the expectation if there's no setback. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.199 Yeah, I agree, and I think that it's going to 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.720 be say it's four weeks and you have like a 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.560 week and a half before the regular season opener. I 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.200 think at that point you might say at practice, we're 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.400 going to just increase the tempo a little bit to 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.880 get Joe ready because I remember, you know, the last 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:15.840 couple of times it was like, well, I just wish 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:17.600 I had seven more days, you know, to get ready 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.560 for the temple of the National Football League defenses. You know, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.640 unfortunately he's going to miss that work day. You know. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.240 Against the Green Bay Packers, the Wednesday practice is like 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.600 that's gold because you know, you used to going against 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.840 the same guys and you know what their strengths are, 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.360 you know what their weaknesses are. Now you give a 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.640 team that comes in totally different people, running different things 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.160 in different ways, and you know now you have to 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.000 just rely on your football instincts and not like oh 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:43.400 I know what this guy is going to do and 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.560 taking educated guesses and you can. It's it's a much 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.000 different dynamic when you go in full tilt and practice 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.680 against an opponent and not a teammate. Iron can sharpen Iron, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.520 there's no question. But boy, when the Iron is another team, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.080 it's not Iron anymore. I guess what would be the 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:03.280 next thing up the up the chart of precious metals. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.959 I mean, it's like it's not quite gold, but it's 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.959 getting close. And you know the other thing is it's 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.160 Joe's right calf. That's his push off foot. That's where 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.960 he has to, you know, come with the most effort 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.480 to get the ball started on his on his uh. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.560 You know, his mechanics are throwing the football so right 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.720 handed quarterback. Any any damage to the right side is 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.960 tough because that's where that's where all the power and 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:29.840 thrust comes from. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.559 I want to give my wife Peg credit for this. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.680 She pointed out something to me after this injury that 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.559 really made me think, and that is Tom Brady's ability 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.560 to answer the bell week after week for more than 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.400 twenty years. He did miss basically an entire season with 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.960 a torn acl But we've all heard about his training 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.559 regimen with the stretching and the bands and the flexibility, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.600 and you know, the Bengals have a world class training staff, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.439 strength and conditioning, medical staff, et cetera. But I wonder 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.480 if you study what time Brady did to try to 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.000 be just as pliable as you possibly can be. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.040 Diet, you know that Tom Brady diet was a big 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.480 factor as well. I mean, yeah, I don't think there's 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.600 anybody that took care of himself in the history of 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.720 professional sports better than Tom Brady did. And and you 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.480 know it's the thing is too his overall football IQ. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.080 He never put him I shouldn't say never, but he 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.320 worked very hard to make sure that he did not 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:31.760 put himself in precarious situations, you know, high low situation 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.680 getting hit, and a lot of it is a credit 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.360 to his teammates, a credit to how he played, how 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.280 quickly he got rid of the football. He didn't try 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.960 to do more than he knew that he could comfortably do. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:47.640 And he never lost his composure in that regard. Some guys, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.960 in the heat of the battle, they try to be superman. 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.599 You know, he was superman just being within himself and 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.360 the way he played football, and he never tried to 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.360 get outside the realm of that, because that's when you 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.360 can get hurt too. And a lot, you know, a 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.280 lot of people would laugh at him when you cover 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.280 up and just you know, collapse in the pocket, and 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.680 oh he's protecting himself. And you know what, it worked, 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.200 and it worked for a bunch of years sure, and a. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.960 Bunch of Super Bowl appearances in Super Bowl rings. Sadly 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.200 before his calf injury, Joe Burrow is off to a 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.360 tremendous started training camp. After day one, somebody asked, you know, 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.920 how'd you feel out out there? He said, pretty damn good? 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:28.680 And he was. He was looking extremely sharp for one 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.000 point eight practices. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.480 He was. I mean, the thing that separates him, in 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:39.200 my mind from everybody, the sideline to sideline, end zone 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.040 to end zone. He sees it so quickly, and he 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.480 sees it so accurately and properly, and he makes the 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.280 right decisions all the time. I mean, if you if 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.480 you just not confuse him, if you just make him hesitate, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.880 you think you had a big win. I mean, it 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.800 is remarkable to watch him scan the football field. I mean, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.720 if I'm a defensive cord and he's back there scanning 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.920 the field all kinds of time and all kinds of separation, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.840 I'm like, we're cooked. You know, he's going to slice 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.240 and dice you, and he puts the ball in such 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.960 great places. I mean, it's just it's it's something to 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.760 watch him just diagnose. I could do that all day, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.800 just watch him. Look at the field sideline, the sideline 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.280 line of scrimmage to the end zone, and he can 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.000 come off the field and tell you where everybody lined 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.560 up just at the snap of the football, if they 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.320 adjusted it all in coverage and rolled or whatever. He 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.560 can tell you the whole progression and where they ended 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.160 up before he threw the football. It's remarkable to have 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.360 a guy be able to do that, and that's what 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.720 separates the great ones. A lot of them have tremendous talent, 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.440 but very few of them sees the game of football 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.040 like this guy does. He is ridiculously special that way. 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.080 The battle for the backup quartered back job was kind 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.560 of a minor storyline going into training camp. Well, it's 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.760 a big storyline now because not only are we going 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:56.960 to see Jake Browning and Trevor Simmy and working with 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.440 the Ones on an alternating basis, but they've got to 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.520 make sure that this goes smoothly basically for however many 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.560 weeks that Joe Burrow is out, so that the offense 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.120 is ready to go for day one when Joe Burrow returns. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.520 Yeah, and I think it looked pretty good the last 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.880 couple of days, you know, is it Joe Burrow, like, 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.520 you can't say that, but what quarterback could you say that? 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.680 If he's running the schematic of what the Bengals are 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.280 trying to do a little thing that I thought was big, 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.320 no all sides, new cadence, new quarterback, and the offensive 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.840 line discipline enough, patient enough to not get antsy, because 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.920 you know, Joe has a much different cadence than the 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.120 other guys, and usually you do have, particularly early on 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.880 when you're in team, especially you know, a guy's false start, 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:43.960 you know, is crippling in the stance a little bit. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.560 None of that that tells me that this football team 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.440 is focused, and they're disciplined, and they want to be 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.680 good up front. I mean in the old line, I 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.400 think it's a very special group for a lot of 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.400 those same reasons. I mean, I think that this you know, 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.440 Joe said it, This is the best offensive line that 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.400 I've played with, There is no doubt. And I think 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.080 I think this this team has a chance to be special. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.200 I really do for those reasons. I mean, you know, 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:15.600 I'm like, there's nobody jumping around, you know, nobody, everybody's composed, 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.560 everybody has trust in the next guy, and you know, 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.480 not getting any antsy. That was good to see a 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.920 little thing like that turns into a big thing. It 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:25.440 really does. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.240 So we learned something interesting about Jake Browning. After his 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.960 first practice with Joe Burrow out late last season, the 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.920 Bengals elevated him to the active game day roster and 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:36.920 back to back weeks, it might have been even been 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.080 three weeks, and we all thought at the time, either're 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.800 throwing him a bone. It's a way to get him 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.880 a little extra money, a reward for doing a good 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.560 job at practice. Well that wasn't it. As it turns out, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.960 another team tried to sign him off the Bengals practice squad, 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.520 and they did that to hold on to him, and 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:52.600 they're very happy they did. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:57.280 Right now, absolutely, I mean that you know that that 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:01.440 speaks volumes to his work ethic, and it speaks volumes 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.960 to you know, the work ethic and the way he 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.880 approached the game of football led to other potential opportunities. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.720 But he was appreciative of the Bengals giving him a chance. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.800 He showed loyalty. They showed loyalty to him. He showed 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.800 loyalty to them. He likes what's going on here, and 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.440 that's the thing that I really think is good about 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.919 what's going on now too, is you know they're drafting players, Well, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.480 you don't have any choice when you're drafted, but the 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.000 guys that are free agents, they have a choice, and 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.000 they want to come here. And when they come here, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.400 they don't want to leave. What does that tell you? 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.560 That tells you it's a damn good environment around here, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.720 and that tells you this football team, a lot of 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:37.360 people believe are going to win a lot of football 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.080 games because you got good football players coming in here, 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.240 wanting to come here. It's a destination and once they're here, 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.520 they want to stay for as long as they possibly can, 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:46.560 and that is all good. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.120 I'm always interested at the beginning of training camp which 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.000 guys have made the biggest physical transformation. I would say 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.320 the two guys on the left side of the offensive 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.600 line might be at the top of the list. Orlando 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.119 Brown Junior is twenty pounds later from the last time 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.760 we saw him. He's down to three forty five and 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.240 looks really good. And I'm telling you, Cordel Volson, he's 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:10.920 ten pounds heavier and it is lean muscle mass. He's 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.920 three twenty five and looks rock solid. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.000 Three twenty five and the lowest percentage of body fat 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.240 amongst all the offensive lineman. He is the leanest offensive 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.920 lineman at three hundred and twenty five pounds, which is 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.439 ten pounds bigger than he was last year. I asked him, 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.640 I said, how much? How much did you do about ten? 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.000 I said, dude, you're looking like you're looking stout. Nobody's 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.080 going to run over you, and you're going to be 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.640 moving some people. And I mean, this is a young 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.280 man that wants to be great. He doesn't want to 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.400 be just good. He wants to be great, and he's 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.360 going to do everything he possibly can to give him 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:48.520 himself every opportunity to be great. I just I just 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:53.000 think the left side, including Ted Karris, you know, Karris, 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:57.320 Volson and Brown pretty damn good, you know. And you know, 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.320 you look at you look at the right side. That's 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.679 you know, that's nothing to sneeze at as well. You 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.399 get the free for all that's going on at the 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.680 tackle position obviously has to work itself all but Alex 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.639 Kapp has played at a high level at the right 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.399 guard position, and they have candidates, you know, more than 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:19.720 one candidate they can play right tackle. When LC comes back. 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.480 That's going to be a bonus. That'll be a huge 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.720 bonus when he comes back physically able to participate, because 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.200 nobody runs through LC either, you know. I mean he's 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.879 a powerful man, So I mean there's depth in the 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.560 offensive line, Dan, There's not a position group that doesn't 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.159 have depth. I really can't see, like, oh, that's a 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.720 major weakness on this football team. They have done one 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.920 hell of a job in formulating a roster. 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.280 There's no question right tackle right now is for grabs 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.200 between Jonah Williams and Jackson Carman. I think it's fair 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:49.680 to characterize it, and you can correct me if I'm wrong. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.440 As Jonah Williams job to lose. 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.760 I would totally concur You know, the guy has played 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.200 a lot of football at the collegiate level. He performed 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.680 at an extremely high level in toughest conference in college football. 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.320 High draft choice played right away. He has played tons 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:11.840 of football. He's a technician and the game is extremely 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.000 important to him. I mean, he he wants to be 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.040 as good a player as he can possibly be on 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.679 as good a team as he can possibly be. And 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.280 watching him at the right tackle position, I'm liking what 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:27.000 I see. It doesn't look like Jesu. This is foreign. 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.040 You know, I'm really trying to try to solve this. 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.320 I feel like a robot. I feel like on a 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.000 rector set. He's looking pretty smooth and his movements out 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.480