1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: As a late fifteen to ten touched up Socker. What's up? 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: Guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: as always, joined by Matt Muddy Smith and Muddy OTA's 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: rookie mintiicamp Is in the rear view. We'll talk about 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: what Brandon Staley had to say about the rookies and 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert throwing a football. But why don't you introduce 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: our first guest, a guy that we know really well. 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of our favorites, even though and he and 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Trey made it tough on me. They'd wear the same 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: color socks, the same color wristbands, same color shoes. They 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: had the long hair covering up their numbers, so they'd 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: make it tough if they were both in on a 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: tackle trying to figure out which one was. Wish that 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: maybe punched the ball out or some then, But we 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: appreciate them, and look, we say it all the time. 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: There's certain positions on the field that can break it down, 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: and safety is certainly one of them. It's jalil ed 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: with us. One of our favorites spanned a couple different 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: coaching staffs, so we're gonna get into that. But and 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: someone who had to change positions actually to get it going. 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: So Jalil, thanks for taking some time out here. Man, 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: it's great to see you. 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: It's great to see you too. 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Man. 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys having me. Always good to seeing 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 4: you guys. As get to it. 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: Julia's on the rise in the broadcasting ranks. I know 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: you're doing total access at the end of the month, man, 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: and I know you're gonna kill it and kind of 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: make that natural progression into the broadcasting world. But let's 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: just start really top of mind with this Chargers team 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: this offseason. Obviously, everybody's talking about how it ended right 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: being up twenty seven to nothing and losing that game. 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: And I think you hear Sebastian, Joseph Day and Dura 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: Winter and all these guys who have talked after the season, 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: there's a bad taste in their mouths. How can that 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: maybe fuel them for twenty twenty three? And it just 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: kind of your state of the team as we talk 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: right now in May, like. 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: Like like Durwin said, Joseph, Joseph Day said, anytime you 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: lose a game like that, especially in the playoffs, being 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: up by that much and then having a team come 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: back and beat you in the way that the Jaguars did, 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: especially being a defensive player. Right, you're up, so you 45 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: think the games in your hands. If they don't score, 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 4: they don't win. 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: Right. 48 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: So, like like Durwin said, and those guys said, there's 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: a bad tasting them out then, and it could be 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: good for them going into the offseason. 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's going to feel that extra drive that 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: they need doing. 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: OTA's bring the commodity together and say, hey, guys, we 54 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: can't go out there and do what we did last year. 55 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: We got to tighten up in those areas that we've 56 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: seen that we lack. 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: We lacked in and we got to continue to prove 58 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: and hopefully that will be the next drive in the 59 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: next i'd say, thing or situation that catapults the defense 60 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: and the team overall into getting it deep into the 61 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: playoffs next year and not letting that happen again. 62 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: I'd love to know. Julio just I said it kind 63 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: of when we brought you on. Just You're you know, 64 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: it's hard enough to be a standout high school football player, 65 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: but then you get to play Division one football and 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: when you show up, they're like, yeah, we might have 67 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: recruited you as a running back, but that ain't happening. 68 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: And then they move you to wide receiver and they're like, yeah, 69 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: and that ain't happening. So take us through what that is. 70 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: Because you're you're an elite player, you think you're one 71 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: of the best in the country, and all of a 72 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: sudden they're telling you, well know, we'd rather have you 73 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: over here. How does that whole process go, How do 74 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: you lean into that and how do you excel at it? 75 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it was difficult because I never played 76 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: defense in my life. I grew up in Floyda. I 77 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: played running back my whole life. I thought it was 78 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: gonna be the next. 79 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: Ward done Berry Sanders him Smith. 80 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 4: I get to college, I'm near I'm at the runback 81 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: position for like two weeks. They moved me over to 82 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: slot receiver and then it's one play in practice. They 83 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: throw a screen to the running back and I peel 84 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: back on the defensive end and I light them up. 85 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: The older heads at the time didn't like that. 86 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: They didn't like the way that I was practicing right, 87 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: But I was a young guy trying to make my name. 88 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: I got moved around a couple of times. 89 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: Coach comes to me after practice and he's like, hey, 90 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: I like how you exploded through your hips. We're gonna 91 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: move you to defense, and you know me, I'm like, 92 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: all right, coach, I'm back in my bond. 93 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: I'm like defense. I've never played defense. 94 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: My older brothers of safety at West Virginia I was 95 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: coaching in college at the time. 96 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: I called him and gave me a couple of pointers. 97 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: First day of seven on seven, I go out there, 98 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: I get two PBUs, I get a strip, and team 99 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: I get a strip. So, I mean, Leana's needless to say. 100 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: I think it worked that well for me. But the 101 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: mindset is like as an athlete, right, you just you 102 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 4: always feel like you're you're going to compete at whatever 103 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: it is. 104 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if they tell you to go fill 105 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: up the. 106 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: Water bottle, doesn't tell you if they tell you to 107 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: go move the bags, right, You're going to compete. 108 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: And that's what I did. I just competed. I didn't 109 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: mope about it. 110 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: It's different nowadays, guys can just enter the transfer portal. 111 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: When I was coming out eleven years ago, you had 112 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: to stick to stick by your guns, right and just 113 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: compete and battle it out. And that's what I did well. 114 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to, you know, I asked, because you know 115 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: they draft Diane Henley and he did the same thing, 116 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: flipped from one side to the other. So kind of 117 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: take us through maybe what you then see differently that 118 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: maybe guys that have been playing defense their whole lives, 119 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: because I would assume they lean on you seeing how 120 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: well you excelled at the position, kind of asking you, Okay, 121 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: how do you approach this? What is it that that 122 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: does for you as a player. 123 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: You just get to see both sides of the ball. 124 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: For me, it was big because as a running back, 125 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: right you had to. 126 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: Have vision when you're running through those holes. 127 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 4: And when I was a safety and I dropped down 128 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: into the box where I excelled the most was I 129 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: It's almost like I seen the holes as if I 130 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: was running, so I would be able to anticipate where 131 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: the running back was going based off what I see 132 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 4: in or felt, because he was seeing the same thing. 133 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: If there's an open gap, he sees, he's going to 134 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 4: hit it. There's an open gap, I see it, I'm 135 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: going to hit it. So I think that translated well 136 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: for me going from running back to safety and just 137 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 4: like anything It's the same thing as. 138 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: If you're playing wide receiver right and then they move 139 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: you to dB. 140 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: You know that ride receivers like to stem you outside, 141 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: to bring you back inside to break back out for 142 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: a corner roid. So it's different things that you know 143 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: that you've done in the past on the other side 144 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: of the ball that you can use when you get 145 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: to the other side to defend it and be successful 146 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: at it. 147 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: You know, Julil, I remember, I think it was twenty seventeen, 148 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: you started every game with twenty seventeen. That was Michael 149 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: Davis's first years and undrafted Vato, and you know, he 150 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: really worked his way up. I know Ron Miles took 151 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: him under his way and Gus and and he really 152 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: established himself as a good player. When Gus left, Brandon 153 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: Salely comes in a completely different defense, and it took Michael. 154 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: I think that all of Brandon's first year. Last year, 155 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: we saw Michael Davis play better than almost any corner 156 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: in the league. I mean, he was at a high level. 157 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 2: I don't if you just speak to your your experience 158 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: playing with Michael, and you know that that shift from 159 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: what Gus did to this Vic Fangio, Brandon Saley type 160 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: defense and just how different that is. 161 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: Right. 162 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's crazy is I'm the one that actually gave 163 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: Voto that that Nick Dame when he came in, So 164 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 4: that's my guy, man. But I see Voto when he 165 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: came in, just a humble kid, willing to learn, no ego. 166 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: And one thing Vato can do is he can run right, 167 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: and Gus Bradley they implemented that with him. Gus was 168 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: big on staying on not letting the ball get over 169 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: your head, and Mike he excelled, right, He excelled in 170 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: that defense. And then you see the switch come over 171 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: with the Brandon Staley's defense and they're playing more quarters, 172 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: they're playing more man, and I think it just took 173 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: Voto a little bit more time to get adjusted to it. 174 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: Obviously, they brought Jay C. Jackson over. They had a. 175 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: Sante Samuels, you know, running with the ones, and Vato 176 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: was a former starter who got pushed down the depth 177 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: trot a little bit because of free agency, which happens 178 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: in this business. But once he got his feedback under him, 179 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: and I think that he got more comfortable with the defense. 180 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: You've seen him excel. 181 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: Like you said, he played top ball last year one 182 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: of the best corners in the league stat wise, right 183 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: with PBu. So he did this thing, man, and I 184 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: think this year he'll he'll continue to do that and 185 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 4: grow even more. 186 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Julia, when you kind of see these last couple of 187 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: years and everybody sort of and look that the numbers 188 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: are what they are, it's right to take shots about 189 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: the run defense, this idea of you know, how much 190 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: has to go right for a defense to be able 191 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: to stop the run, and maybe what you've noticed, and 192 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: because everybody just points to the line, they're like, well, 193 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: you got to get better bodies since I but you know, 194 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: it's so much more than that, especially with the amount 195 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: of tackles you would pile up, like you said, reading 196 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: the gaps and making those stops as a safety. 197 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: The biggest thing I think is gap discipline. Right. It 198 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: starts up front. The defensive line sets the temple. The 199 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: defensive line sets the line of scrimmage. Right, you want 200 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 4: your defensive line to play on their side of the ball. 201 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: I think the only thing that I've seen a little 202 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: bit with the charges with some guys jumping out of 203 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: gaps or missing the gaps, or linebackers not playing downhill 204 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: fast enough. They have the talent, the roster is there. 205 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: Tom has done a great job over there is of 206 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: building this roster. I think the biggest thing is just 207 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 4: gap integrity, Right, don't be in this gap, sticking your 208 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: head in this gap, stay true, trust the guy behind 209 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: you that he's going to The linebackers are going to 210 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: fill in. And then here comes Durham, who you know, 211 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: who's going to blow up anything that comes through the hole. 212 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: Low He has played well, so I think just playing 213 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: more so as a group because the talent is there 214 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 4: and trusting one another, I think they'll be fine. I 215 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: think Brandon Staley will fix that problem and the Chargers 216 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: defense will really excel this season. 217 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: Julian, they didn't do much for free age and see, 218 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: but one of the things they did on the defensive 219 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: side of the ball was bringing Kendricks as a linebacker. 220 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: You talked about shooting the gaps, and you know, we've 221 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: heard Sebastia just today and Derek Ansley talk about the 222 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: run defense and how it is really truly all three 223 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: levels involved in making that thing work. What is therek 224 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: Kendrick's going to bring to this Chargers defense. 225 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: Like I said, the defense the defense is going to excel, 226 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 4: and he's one of those main pieces. Why right, They 227 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: brought him in for free agency, and he's a he's 228 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: a certified baller. He's been balling since he's came into 229 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: the league. He's a downhill He's a downhill linebacker. And 230 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: what that will do is allow those double teams that 231 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: are on the defensive lineman to come up sooner because 232 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: he's coming he's playing downhill. That way, the defensive line 233 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: will get more one on ones. And in this league, 234 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: it's all about your one on ones. Who wins the 235 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: one on one battles. And like I said, this defense 236 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: is loaded. The front four is loaded, and I don't 237 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 4: think anybody in this league wants to block these guys 238 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: one on one. So I think having him come in 239 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: as a leader, what he brings with his physical attributes 240 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: playing downhill, they'll free up some more guys down there 241 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: on the front so they can make more TFLs and 242 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: control that line of scrimmage. 243 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at the schedule, Julia, and it's Green 244 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: Bay November nineteenth, New England December third, Denver December thirty. 245 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: First is someone from Florida who had to go make 246 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: your bones up in central Michigan. How big of a 247 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: deal is the cold? Like when you're a warm weather person, 248 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: a Charger or a warm weather team, Like, how big 249 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: of a deal is that when you got to go 250 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: play sixty minutes outdoors in December in New England. 251 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: I can tell you it's tough. 252 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: Like you said, come from Florida playing in Michigan, playing 253 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: with the Charges. You know, we got this beautiful weather 254 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 4: seventy five and son a year round and we got 255 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: to go play it places like Arrowhead in December, places 256 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 4: like the Patriots, like we did in the second round 257 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen. And this is a difference, right, there's 258 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: a difference. It's colder, your muscles are tighter, you're not 259 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: used to it. Those guys are out there in short 260 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 4: sleeves and we're coming out in long sleeves. But like 261 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 4: I said, there's a lot of experience on this team. 262 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: I think they'll be fine. 263 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: They got to lean on their A game and get 264 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: into those cold weather games. The ball gets slick, it's hard, 265 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: it's hard to pass in those games. 266 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: So you got to lead on that running game. 267 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: Austin Eckler, that that offensive line that Tom has invested 268 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: in has to show up in those kind of games, 269 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: and I think they will, so I don't think it'll 270 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: be that big of a deal. 271 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: Hey Chris, hold on, I want to jump in because 272 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: he brought it up. I would love to know if 273 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: you felt the same thing we did in the booth 274 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: in that twenty eighteen playoff game and just kind of 275 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: how you guys were trying to figure it out. Coin toss, 276 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: Patriots win and they take the ball and we went, WHOA, 277 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: what did they figure out? What do they got up 278 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: their slik? Like what is it about this defense that 279 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: they figured out that they feel like we want the 280 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: ball first and we're going to go score? What was 281 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: going on that day? And like what was it that 282 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: made it so tough that they had kind of put 283 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: on you guys? 284 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: It was a crazy by the way, it was crazy. 285 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: Granted we jumped out on him. 286 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: It was we were the first first quarter were we 287 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 4: were in and with them Keenan. 288 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: Hit Gilmore with a double move or dig and go. 289 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: We walked into that game confident is ever, like we 290 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: were going to beat them, and we felt that way. 291 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: The week before we stopped Lamar with seven DB's run 292 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: one of the most predominant rushing attack officers you're going. 293 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: To see in the league. Right. 294 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: I think they did that more so like, hey, we're 295 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: gonna try to set the temple. We're gonna set We're 296 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: gonna set the precedents for today. 297 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: And they did that. They did a good job of 298 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: establishing the run. And once they did that, we. 299 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 4: Were playing downhill, downhill, and then here comes the power 300 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: power pass. Right, they're faking the power plass and over 301 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: the top with Edelman in Gronk. 302 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: So it was a tough it was a tough slad. 303 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 3: It was a tough day. 304 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: It was a tough day in the second half, and 305 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 4: they just had our number that day. 306 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: Man. I always tell people that was that year. 307 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 4: I felt that we were going to hit that Super Bowl, 308 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: but we ran into a guy by the name of 309 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: Tom Brady. 310 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: Damn Tom Brady, Damn. 311 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: Hey, you know, Julius Speaking of that twenty eighteen team, 312 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys, People forget you guys are pretty dominant. 313 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: Twelve or four. You started every game, and you started 314 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: every game beside a rookie named Derwin James. You were you. 315 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: I remember you and Ap and a lot of those 316 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: guys veterans in that secondary really instrumental in coaching Derwin 317 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: up and making sure he was ready to go. But 318 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: obviously Derwin is Dirwin too. What was it like playing 319 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: with him his rookie year where he was the first 320 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: team All Pro? 321 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 4: Man, that dude's a generational talent, I said all the time. 322 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 4: Everyone asks me, Man, it is during really that good? Durings, 323 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: that damn good Like he's the best safety in the league. 324 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: There's no argument. But just seeing him coming. I'm from Florida, 325 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: I was a Florida State fan growing up. I watched 326 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 4: him in college he came in. The biggest thing with 327 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 4: him is a lot of people talk and harp on 328 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 4: his physical attributes. But the guy is smart, right, He's smart, 329 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: He's willing to learn, He's a phenomenal leader, and he 330 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: just wants to be the best. He He has god 331 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 4: given talent. But there's a lot of people who have 332 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: God given talent but don't work right, don't work how 333 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: he works, or don't take don't take his craft hit 334 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: the craft as heres as he does, and he does. Man, 335 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: he wants to be the best he see. He says 336 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: one percent every day and he really means it. Man, 337 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: He's trying to get better every single day and it 338 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: shows on Sunday. He's the heartbeat of that defense, heartbeat 339 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 4: of the team if you ask me, right as he goes, 340 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: they go. When he's not out there there, it's a difference. 341 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: And he's one to watch man. He's excited to watch 342 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 4: for the next ten plus years. 343 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: Gillio coming out of this, this first round of OTAs 344 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: and rookie camp and all that. A lot of questions 345 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: Derek Ansley, the new DC about J. T. Woods and 346 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, here's a third round pick that just couldn't 347 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: get on the field last year, and you know they 348 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: could have used him. I mean, they absolutely could have so, 349 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of the questions surrounded instincts and vision 350 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: and you know the productions there. A guy had six 351 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: interceptions at Baylor. So maybe if you can kind of 352 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: take us through your your observations and in that particular position, 353 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, I know you played strong most of the time, 354 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: but playing free as a rookie and how much goes 355 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: into that responsibility and trying to get acclimated as a rookie. 356 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: It's a lot because these quarterbacks in this league are 357 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 4: the elite, right and they can manipulate you with their eyes, 358 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 4: with their shoulders, right, and one false. 359 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Step in this league, you burned. 360 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: Like you said, in college, he showed that he's a 361 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: ball hawk, and training camp he was showing that he 362 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: was a ball howk. And there's a learning curve right, 363 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: and I think that he had to go through that 364 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 4: may have hit a rookie wall. 365 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 366 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: I wasn't in the building, but I think this year 367 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: is going to be him and a Logi who battled 368 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: it out in training camp for that starter spot next 369 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: to Derwin. The kid is physical, he's tall, but I 370 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: like a Loki too. 371 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: Man. It's gonna be a great camp to watch. 372 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: That's gonna be one of the most important camp battles 373 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: that we see as him and the Lowhi going at 374 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: it for that starting spot. 375 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: Jill, what do you make of the way a Lohi 376 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: has played? And you know, I see him as a 377 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: guy who is stuck around his work ethic speaks for itself, 378 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: and he made he made plays in games too. In particular, 379 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: that stickout is the one first play of the game 380 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: against the Dolphins where he breaks up the Tyreek Hill bomb, 381 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: which could have you know, the game could have gone 382 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: the other way had that had that converted. Uh. The 383 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: other one was the interception in Cleveland. Like he seems 384 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: to be at the right place at the right time. 385 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: Nothing flashy, but seemed to be a really nice compliment 386 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: to Derwin. 387 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: He's a real good compliment to Duran. 388 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: Like you said, you harped on that first play with Tyreek, 389 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: who's a world class sprinter who's taking guys deep for 390 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: a living, right. And the funny thing about it is 391 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: the Dolphins drew that play uf just for him to 392 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: be on the low heat. Although he stepped up to 393 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: the plate ball, didn't panic, made the play and then 394 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: let them know not. 395 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: Today, right, y'all, Are'm bringing that to me? And honestly, 396 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: they didn't try him after that. 397 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: But like you said, in Cleveland on the goal line, 398 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 4: just just mirroring the eyes of to Kobe and picks 399 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: him off. 400 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: When I was there, he's made plays. 401 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: Just seeing him as a young kid and how he's 402 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: come in and how he's. 403 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: Continued to grow and grow and grow. 404 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: Like you said, nothing flashy, not the biggest, not the fastest, 405 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: but he's in the right place at the right time. 406 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: He's smart, and he's durable and the coaches can depend 407 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: on him. When the coach can depend on you, you will 408 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: play a long time in this league and they feel 409 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: comfortable with you out there. So I think Alo he's 410 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: going to ball this year. Like I said, interesting to 411 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: see who wins that battling camp. 412 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just retired Julie, so you had a chance 413 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: to get a crack at Patrick Mahomes multiple times. Give 414 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: us an idea of what you talked about, Dan tom Brady, Like, 415 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: what does Patrick Mahomes present to an opposing defense. 416 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: It's Patrick and it's Andy at the same time. Like 417 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: those guys are two geniuses together. But you can prepare 418 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 4: for them on Monday through Sunday all the way up 419 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: into the game. Prepare for the different formations they're going 420 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: to throw at you, the different personnels. But once you 421 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 4: get out there, it's backyard football. Patrick steps back, he looks, 422 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: he doesn't see it. Now he's running around and it's 423 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: a scrambled drill. You're chasing Kelsey, you're chasing Tyreek Hill 424 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: back in the day. You're chasing all these guys around, 425 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 4: and Patrick just makes it happen. He can make any 426 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 4: throw in the field from any unorthodox position sidearm. No. 427 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: Look, he's like the Magic Johnson of football man. 428 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: He can deliver however he wants to, and that's what 429 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: he brings and that's one of the biggest threats when 430 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 4: you're playing him. It's just those guys are never out 431 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: of the game. No matter how much you think that 432 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 4: you know them or you got them, you don't. 433 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: Julia, the balance of power, it's really unbalanced when we 434 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: talk about the quarterback playing the AFC versus the NFC. 435 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: I know, I heard you say you think the Chargers 436 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: have a legit shot to the throne the Chiefs, and 437 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: obviously they need to prove that. But when you look 438 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: at all the quarterbacks that this team is going to 439 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: have to face, from Mahomes twice, to Russell Wilson twice 440 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: if Peyton can get him right, to Lamar Jackson, to 441 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, you know, all these guys, Aaron Rodgers, how 442 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: difficult is it going to be in the AFC just 443 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: to make the playoffs? And you know, money and I've 444 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: talked callous times about like you know, ten to eleven 445 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: teams that have a legit shot to make the playoffs 446 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: based on just the quarterback that they have under center. 447 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 3: Right. 448 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're in this league, you always have a 449 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 4: chance and you have a quarterback like these guys do. 450 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: Like you said, your naming off names. 451 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 4: Were Pro Bowl, All Pros, future Hall of Famers, that 452 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: these guys are gonna have to see weekend and week out. 453 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is that they have to 454 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: stay healthy. Whichever team stays the most healthy this season, 455 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 4: I think will be one of the team teams who 456 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: give theirselves the best shot of making it out of 457 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 4: the AFC to make it into the playoffs. 458 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: Other than that, you just got to be on top 459 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: of your game. 460 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 4: There's not one single game in the NFL, or especially 461 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 4: with the rosters, the schedule excuse me that they have 462 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: this year, that you can just roll the ball out 463 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: and say, hey, we're going to win today. Everyone has 464 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: to be dialed in offense, defense, special teams, especially the 465 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: defense with these quarterbacks are playing. And like I said, 466 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 4: Herbert is elite. He's top five in my opinion, and 467 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: he'll go blow for blow with any quarterback in this league. 468 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 4: So I think having him is obviously a bonus. But 469 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: they got to be on top of it and be 470 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 4: prepared weekend and week out. 471 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: Give us Julia, you made the team as an undrafted 472 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: free agent, and you always hear you guys that take 473 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: your path. You gotta make it on special teams. How 474 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: do you make a team on special teams? Like, what 475 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: is it that you do that separates you for them 476 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: to say, yeah, we're going to give him one of 477 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: our fifty three spots because of what he showed us 478 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 1: on special teams. 479 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: First of all, you got to go special team. You 480 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 4: have to have a different mindset offense and defense. We 481 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: all want to play offenses defense, right, special teams, you 482 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 4: have to have an unselfish mindset. Kickoff, kickoff return, these 483 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: are all high impact plays. Everyone's running from fifteen to 484 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: twenty yards. You can't shy away from any context. You 485 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 4: got to be a bullet out there. You have to 486 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: show that you have no care for your body in 487 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: a sense, right, you have to give it up for 488 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: the team. You have to be an unselfish player. And 489 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest thing for rookies. When you 490 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: come in you're the off star. When you leave college, right, 491 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 4: you're you're the big man on campus. But when you 492 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: come to the league, especially if you're an undrafted guy. 493 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: You're the small fry and you got to prove yourself 494 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: in the way you prove yourself as special teams, going 495 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 4: down on kickoff, making tackles inside the twenty, blocking punts, 496 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 4: you know, on kickoff return getting back here, drops, setting up, 497 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: if you have a one on one block, staying with 498 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: your one on one block, if you have a double 499 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: team driving that guy out of there to create a 500 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: lane for the kickoff returner or punt returner. 501 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: So it's things like that. You got to show up 502 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: and you gotta flash on. 503 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: Film on special teams for those coaches to say, hey, 504 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 4: this is one of the guys that we got to 505 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: keep on this roster. 506 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: Julian, we were cheated last year of seeing Mike Williams 507 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. We're cheated of seeing Keenan Allen from 508 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 2: Majority or a big chunk at the first half of 509 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: the season. You went up against those guys on a 510 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: day to day basis when Mike and Keenan are a 511 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: full strength and you just you know, we talk about 512 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: these other weapons. Quintin Johnson, who they drafted in the 513 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: first round, Joshua Palmer, Gerald Everett, I mean, Justin Herbert's 514 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: got a ton of weapons, but just Mike and Keenan 515 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: in particular. I mean you came in with Keenan, so 516 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: you've seen him from the beginning. 517 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have. 518 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: And like you said, Mike and Keenan when you talk 519 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 4: about them too, and they're both healthy, they're the best 520 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: combo in the league. And I argue guys down about 521 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: that Mike can catch any deep ball. He's not a 522 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: fifty to fifty guys more seventy five twenty five. Keenan 523 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 4: can line up on the outside inside when the best 524 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: route running in the league. Him and Davante Adams. I 525 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: gave those guys one day one b So those guys 526 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 4: right there are special. And when you give Herbert who's 527 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 4: in the league quarterback with the arm like that, and 528 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 4: then you add those other pieces in there, one person 529 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: that the guy a lot of people have forgot about. 530 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 4: Everyone wants to say, we want speed, we want speed. 531 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 4: Jalen Guyton is a guy who has speed. He's a 532 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: guy who can stretch the field. Obviously he's coming off 533 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: of ACL but I think they have everything that they 534 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 4: need for Kellen Moore to make this offense go at 535 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: that wide receiver position and it's going to be special 536 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 4: to watch. 537 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: Last one for me, Julia. We appreciate the time. Man, 538 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: I would say, I know you're busy, but I don't 539 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: know if you are. And that's why I'm asking you 540 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: this question. It's such a weird profession. You know, you're 541 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: thirty three years old. Man, It's like you've got your 542 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: entire life ahead of you and you've already lived a 543 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: professional life, a decade in the league, and you know, 544 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: playing at a high level and getting a big contract 545 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, all that great success. 546 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: But then it's almost like it just spits you out 547 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: because you're on this right because you're on this regiment 548 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: and everything is laid out for you, and now life 549 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: is just kind of there and you got to figure 550 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: out what is figure out just share with the people, 551 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: like what that is, Like, I like to have this 552 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: incredible career, doing this incredible job, and then you're done 553 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: at thirty three. 554 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, done at. 555 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 4: Thirty three, man, Like you said, it goes by that fast. 556 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 4: Almost a decade in the league, and it's a transition 557 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 4: and everybody goes through. It doesn't matter if you play 558 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: three years, five years, fifteen years. 559 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: It's a transition. 560 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 4: My biggest thing is I would tell players when you're playing, 561 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 4: always have a plan, right, And it sounds cliche, have 562 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 4: a plan, plan B or, but it's true because you 563 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 4: always think as a player, I will never be done. 564 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 4: I'll never be done. Then it goes by that fast. 565 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: For me, obviously, I'm transitioning to broadcasting. I'm doing real estate. 566 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: I've dove into real estate. And one of the biggest 567 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 4: things for me is that helped me a lot with 568 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: my transition. Like the money's like you said, contract, you've played, 569 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 4: you've accomplished your dream, You've made big money in the NFL. 570 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: But the biggest thing for me that has been a 571 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 4: blessing to me is my family, my wife Lindsay, my 572 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: three kids, Zion's all year and Zuri. That's who I 573 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 4: pour myself into now with sports. You know, we're doing sports, 574 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: We're doing travel, we're doing school things. So that's been 575 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 4: the biggest blessing for me. Man, it's actually taken a 576 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 4: lot of the transition told off of me. I can 577 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 4: say that it's my family that's been the biggest. The 578 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: biggest blessing for me. 579 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: Money. You know what, guys get drafted and they played 580 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: in the league for a long time. But uh, Jillian, 581 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: you're different man. Like, first of all, you're the almost professional, right, 582 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: but to be undrafted and to stick in the league 583 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: for as long as you did, you know, during different 584 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: coaching steps, it just it says something about you, right 585 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: that you're you're the type of guy that they needed 586 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: on that team to succeed. And I remember firsthand, like 587 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 2: you know, when when the Anthony Lynn era started. I mean, 588 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: you were a big part of that in terms of 589 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: the leadership in the locker room. So I just want 590 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: to commend you because I think it's one thing to 591 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: be in the league for a few years, get drafted 592 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: and then kind of find the next thing. But I 593 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: mean how you created your own success. Not many people 594 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: in the league can do that, you know. Austin Eckler 595 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: is another example of that, right, a guy who was 596 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: all drafted. So just to get you out of here 597 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: on this, that next endeavor is broadcasting. You just told 598 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: me you're gonna be a total access right in June 599 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: or what is that tell us about that? 600 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 601 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: So I did a three day boot camp with the 602 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 4: NFL Network, got some good feedback, and they invited me 603 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: back out as a guest analyst for the whole week 604 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: on Total Access May twenty ninth, I think through June 605 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 4: second or June third, So I'll be on there live 606 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: doing my thing, suited and booted four pm Central, four 607 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: pm Pacific time, seventh pm Eastern time. 608 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: So if y'all ain't doing nothing, check me out. Let 609 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: me know. 610 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: There we go. Where else can we find you? Anywhere else? Julia? 611 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: Outside of that that that one week? What else you got? 612 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: I got the NFL Total Access. 613 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 4: I'm doing some stuff locally here in San Diego, NBC 614 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 4: San Diego, Fox five actually in June, and I'll be 615 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: out there with you, guys. I think I'm gonna be 616 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: with you. Chris June twelfth, covering the media day for 617 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: the Chargers. So I'm just getting my whistle at Man 618 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: is getting started. I'm enjoying it and I'm passionate about it. 619 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: So we'll see where it takes me. 620 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: Beautiful. 621 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: I love it, charges faceas julil die Man. Hey, it 622 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: was so great catching up and like like I said, 623 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: your your insight is a player and playing with so 624 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: many guys on this current roster, it really brings a 625 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: lot to light in terms of what to expect a 626 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three man. So we appreciate your time and 627 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: look forward to more analysis throughout the offseason. 628 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: Sounds good. Thank you for having me, guys. 629 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: Thanks Julie. 630 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: All right, Well, Buddy, I love when we talk to 631 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: former players, especially former players that know so many of 632 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: the key guys and key contributors on this twenty twenty 633 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: three Chargers team. 634 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, safety, he said it. You know that's gonna 635 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: be a big one because they you don't. We've said 636 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: this before. You don't draft guys in the third round 637 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: and expect them to be fringe special teams players and 638 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: not make their way into the rotation on either of 639 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: the offense or the defensive side of the ball. So 640 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: they're expecting a lot on j T. Woods. I know 641 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: we're going to get into it, and that was one 642 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: of it felt like, if not the it was darn 643 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: close to the most discussed topic with new d C 644 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: Derek Ansley about what the vision is and what the 645 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: expectations are for JT. So great to get a little 646 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: bit of insight there from Jaliel about and he hit 647 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: it on the head. He's absolutely right. I had what 648 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: six interceptions at Baylor senior year, it came into the 649 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: you know, led the NCAA, comes in, shows out in 650 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: training camp, has a solid run a little bit there 651 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: in the preseason, and then for whatever reason, just got 652 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: away from him and did not get himself a lot 653 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: of playing time, and it was like thirty something snaps 654 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: and some of those were emergency snaps. So that to 655 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: me is one of the big camp questions and one 656 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: that no doubt the Chargers would love to see answered. 657 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: With j T. Woods working his way as a starter 658 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: on this defense, we should. 659 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: Start there, you know. For a list of a few 660 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: things that I thought were the key takeaways, Brandon Staley 661 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: was asked about j T. 662 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: Woods. 663 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: Derek Ansley was asked about j T. Woods, and we 664 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: talked about Alohi Gilman and kind of the steadiness that 665 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: he's brought to that secondary and I thought he was 666 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 2: a pleasant surprise last year. Frankly, But but you don't 667 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: drafted ze like you said, the third round on the 668 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: to sit on the bench, Yeah, no doubt. 669 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: I mean I'm pulling it up right now just to 670 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: give you an idea of who got taken in that 671 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: third round and how much they're playing as you go 672 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: through a Chad Muma, you know, playing for the Jags. 673 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: We saw him in the playoff game. A linebacker there. 674 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: Vellis Jones didn't have a great year, but the Bears 675 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: tried to put him in to that rotation. Jilanie Woods 676 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: became the starting tight end in Indianapolis. Desmon Ritter, quarterback 677 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: for the Falcons, ends up starting the final four games. 678 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, when you go through it, Greg Dolcic, we 679 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: saw how big of an impact he had in Week 680 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: eighteen against the Chargers of the tight end in Denver. 681 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: These are third round picks Nikobe Dean for Philadelphia. Of 682 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: course that he slipped because of the injury. But you 683 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: know what the expectations are there, Like third round, you 684 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: got to play third round. You expect for these guys 685 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: to be big tributors. And that's why and that's look, 686 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: that's how it is this year. When you talk about 687 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: Towoey too, Lea polow To in the second and Henley 688 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: in the third, we expect those guys to play this 689 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: year beyond beyond special teams. Yeah, Henley's a special teams 690 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: stud and they expect him to be. And that was 691 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: another sort of theme of conversations surrounding the questions asked 692 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: the coaches, But coach Ficken and coach Staley with with Henley, 693 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: but they expect those guys to contribute this year on defense, 694 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: and no doubt that's what they're gonna want to see 695 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: from Jay two wits is that he's able to take 696 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: that step. 697 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: You put J. T. Woods in that in that conversation. 698 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: He's almost like a red shirt rookie, right. He was 699 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 2: he's got to play. They asked about Tooley and if 700 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: it was going to be, uh, maybe a learning curve 701 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: because he's twenty years old, and I love Dansley's answer. 702 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: He said, this guy is wise beyond his years, so 703 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: it's it's not that he should be ready to go. 704 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: And you know the fact that he is twenty I 705 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: think is frankly exciting because I do think that when 706 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: you're in Ruth Khalil and Joey Bosa and playing the football, 707 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: he's already played. He's going to make an impact. And 708 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: I have no doubt that I think him and Henley 709 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: are both going to play and play a decent amount, 710 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: especially to Polo two when we talk about, uh, that 711 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: edge position, because I think he's automatically that that number three, 712 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: edg Russer right now money, no. 713 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: Doubt, And to your point, it was a great answer 714 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: from from Ansley because he spot on age. Age can 715 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: be a thing. We saw it last year with Isaiah 716 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: Spiller just from a growth and a strength and a 717 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: body type standpoint. But you look at Twi Polotu and 718 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: he looks like an NFL player. When you looked at 719 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Isaiah Spiller, you're like, man, it looks like a baby 720 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: out there. So there's a difference and people, can you know, 721 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: the mature their their bodies are are built differently and 722 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: certainly to a polo two. And it'll be interesting to 723 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: see how they envision him. Do they want him to 724 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: get lighter, Do they want him to get heavier? Do 725 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: they like him exactly where he is? Do they want 726 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: to put him inside? He can play up and down 727 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: the line, and he's got the body where however you 728 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: want him to be most effective. He can do that. 729 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how they how they 730 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: deploy him, the different ways they deploy him. But no 731 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: doubt he's and it was great to see him out there, 732 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: and it was great see all the rookies out there, 733 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: the undrafted free agents out there. It's just fun to 734 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: see dudes live their dreams and realize their dreams and 735 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: and just have that pep in their step. Is is 736 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: they put on that charger helmet for the first time 737 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: and get coached up by these NFL coaches for the 738 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: first time. Not to mention, having Justin Herbert out there 739 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: working out next to him throwing around was pretty damn 740 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: great to see. 741 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was probably the lead among all fans, is 742 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: that Justin Herbert throwing a football in May and you 743 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: know it's it's a big deal because he had that 744 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: that off season surgery. But when he's slinging around the 745 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: way he was to to Quintin Johnston, which the Charges 746 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: put on their social media the other day, I think 747 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: things are good. So I don't think there's any worry 748 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: that Justin Harpist could be ready to go. 749 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: Love that all the rookies into a polotal get done, 750 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: but love that the contracts are done. Get that. Just 751 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: wipe that off the table. We know in years past 752 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: you've had a couple of hiccups here and there, guys 753 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: holding out until the day before training camp or something. 754 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: Get the sense that that is not going to be 755 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: the case this year, specifically with Quinton, just because they 756 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: expect a lot out of him. He's your first round 757 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: pick and that's the one that typically takes the longest 758 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: to get sorted out. So very happy that that's squared 759 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: away and that he was out there and he is 760 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: full speed ahead, ready to roll. And I'll tell you 761 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: there were some shots that I got excited. Seeing the 762 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: hands out in front of them snatching those balls out 763 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: the air got me a little I'm like, okay, here 764 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: we go. Now, it's not when you got contact and 765 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: you're feeling contact, and that's typically when your muscle memory 766 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: comes into play. But I'll take it. I'll take it 767 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: for now what I thought was cool, and you take 768 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: this for what it's worth. 769 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: I just think it's a reflection of the locker room, 770 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: and I think kind of the culture is the fact 771 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: that Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, and Joshpa Palmer went up 772 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: to the hotel to introduce themselves to the Quinton and 773 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: get to know them a little bit there. I just 774 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: think that that don't have to do this stuff. Is 775 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: it matters. It's he's going into a room with guys 776 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: who have done it at the highest level. And for 777 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: a guy like Joshua Palmer who's kind of on that 778 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: same track that Quinton is, he's got a couple of 779 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: years learning from Keenan and Mike, but just to kind 780 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: of be welcomed in to the wide receivers room like that, 781 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: I think that little stuff matters. 782 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: The other thing just shifting from wide receiver to a 783 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver but really more of a returner. I really 784 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: liked what coach Ficken had to say about Darius Davis 785 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: because there's there's a there's certainly a segment of scouting 786 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: society that says more and more with teams are just 787 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: content to kick the ball out of the back of 788 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: the end zone. You don't have returns like you used to. 789 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Punters have become so good that hang time becomes such 790 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: a weapon that you're barely returning any punts now, and 791 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: Coach Ficken had a perfect response to that. He specifically 792 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: pointed out, it's what we like about this guy is 793 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: he is one of the few that is he called 794 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: him the best returner in college football. He's like, this 795 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: is one of the few guys who doesn't get phased 796 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: by bodies flying around him. He trusts his blocks are 797 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: going to be there, and he's returning punts that other 798 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: guys perhaps wouldn't, So it speaks to something they saw 799 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: in Darius Davis that they did not see anywhere else. 800 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: And we're willing to pay a premium for that a 801 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: fourth round pick, as opposed to wait until the fifth 802 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: or sixth or seventh to get a returner because of 803 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: how diminished that particular position has become. And it was 804 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: exciting to hear. No, we expect this guy to return 805 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: punts that other guys wouldn't and that's why he's here. 806 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: And we know how important that was last year in 807 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: a number of games when DeAndre Carter's giving you that 808 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: extra ten twelve a cup of gosh, I I'm blanking 809 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: on it right now. If I had the schedule in 810 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: front of me, I would probably Was it the Miami 811 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: game that he had the big return that set up 812 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: the Maybe it wasn't Miami, darn at what. I can't 813 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: remember what game it was, but it was a tight game. 814 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: It was a Tennessee It was a tight game, and 815 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: he had a big punt return that set up the 816 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: game winning field goal. It was like a fifty something 817 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: yard was it Atlanta, it was. 818 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: Maybe it was Tennessee because didn't Justin had that big 819 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: strike to Mike Williams to set up the field goal right. 820 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: Right, So that was a big strike. So it wouldn't 821 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: have been Tennessee because that was the big toss from 822 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: Justin on the Ah, my bad, I should That's what 823 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: happens when I just go stream of consciousness, I make 824 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: a full of myself. 825 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: No, it's because I can't even think about it. You 826 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 2: know what I was gonna say, though, because you were 827 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: in the booth for it. I remember when the sky 828 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: was falling special teams wise in August against the Cowboys, 829 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 2: and it was just a disaster. Cavante Turpin, yes, and 830 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 2: the returner receiver. Right. So the Chargers got their Philip 831 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: Turpin in the in the preseason uh more frog, and 832 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: then they drafted one. They said, let's get one of 833 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: our own. They could maybe flip the field for us 834 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: exactly right. Uh are you still looking? You're not looking 835 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: up that DJ Carter thing, are you? 836 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: I was, and I just gave up because it wasn't. 837 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't Miami. Was The long drive to get the 838 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: field goal consumed like ten minutes. Tennis Denver was. 839 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: The muff punt. That was the Jair Taylor game. 840 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: Denver was the muff punt. Perhaps it was a man. 841 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm like I said, I am doing myself no favors 842 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: right now because I'll have to. I'd have to take 843 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: the people. The people that are listening, they know, they know, 844 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: and I my old brain is all salt water logged 845 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: and it can't free can process memories anymore. So my 846 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: great apologies, folks. I'm sure you remember the game I'm 847 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: talking about, and I don't. 848 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: I don't sleep. 849 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't. 850 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: I don't really, I don't. 851 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: Know if there's that right sleep it is either there's 852 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: exactly that. 853 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 2: I wanted to end on this. I kind of alluded 854 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: to it with Jalie at the end. But the twenty 855 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 2: seven and nothing things not going away among the players. 856 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: Sebastian Joseph Day talked about it, and I say that 857 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: I think is a good thing. I think that this 858 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: is going to be something that is really going to 859 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: stick with them now. It's it's a matter if you 860 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: got to kill. 861 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: It right Arizona. It was Arizona. Remember they're down twenty 862 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: four to seventeen with two minutes left and they punt, 863 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: They punt, and it is. 864 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: A overtime That was overtime game. 865 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: That was the no they went for two, go for 866 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 1: two games. Yes, So it was a fifty yard punt 867 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: DeAndre Carter twenty yard return to the Arizona forty three 868 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: and gets hit out of bounds, so or and there's 869 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: a player out of bounds penalty adds another five yards. 870 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: They get the ball with a minute forty eight left, 871 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: go down, score, go for fifteen seconds left to go 872 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: for two, win the game. And that was then that 873 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: was set saved the season, and that was set up 874 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: by the Andre Carter's twenty yard punt return that put 875 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: them at the Arizona forty three to get that drive started. 876 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: I honestly don't think they would have made the playoffs 877 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 2: had they lost that game. I really don't. 878 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: I agree. I think I think they agree. They would 879 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: have been five and six, and it just the sting of. 880 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: Losing that game. I think I don't know if they 881 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 2: would have made the postseason had they lost the game. 882 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: I thought that was that was the one, you well, 883 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: they had lost. Remember they had lost San Francisco Kansas 884 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: City prior, so they were staring at a three game 885 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: losing streak, and it would have been because and they 886 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: lost against Las Vegas the next week, and we thought, 887 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: oh boy, and then you're staring at Miami and all 888 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: that speed on Sunday night football and it's like you're 889 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: six and seven, and then you go to Tennessee. I 890 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, it was it was a roller coaster, 891 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: but I do I do. 892 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 2: Think that this whole Jacksonville thing is going to fuel 893 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 2: a lot of the players that had to live through that, because, 894 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: you know, Sebastian even said, he's never lost like that. 895 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 2: Derwin's in the locker roop. He's never lost like that. 896 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: It's hard to lose like that. 897 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 2: It's it's hard to lose like that. I was just 898 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: trying to think of like comparisons of you know, even 899 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: another sport like has a team like kind of used 900 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: something devastating and come back and used it and actually 901 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: won and got to the top of the mountain. You 902 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: know what I thought about AVA losing to UVA sixteen 903 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 2: seed losing. 904 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: Sure it was the next year, Yeah, they won it 905 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: all after losing Maryland Baltimore County they lost to Yeah. 906 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, UNBC, that's right. The social media guy got got 907 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: his fifteen minutes of fame that night. I wish it's possible, Listen. 908 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 2: I hope I had a negative, having a negative channeling 909 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 2: into a positive of this offseason. 910 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: I hope. 911 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 3: So. 912 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: I Unfortunately, I feel like in the NFL there's more, 913 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: there's more situations that you have a bad event and 914 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: everything just unravels from there. We know about the loser 915 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, how routinely they have a terrible 916 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: following season. I look back to last year and you 917 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: think about thirteen seconds, How in the heck did the 918 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: Bills figure out how to lose to Kansas City in 919 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: that in that divisional round, and and then what happens 920 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: They come back this year and they lose the divisional 921 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: round at home. Obviously a lot of circumstances surrounding the 922 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: Bills from last season and what they went through, But 923 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: I feel like more well, I mean, there was the 924 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco muffed punt when Harball was the coach and 925 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: Kaepernick was the quarterback. Remember they lost I think that 926 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: was the NFC Championship game that they lost on that 927 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: muffed punt, And the very next year they went to 928 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So it's possible that you can use, 929 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, a dramatic loss as motivation going into the 930 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: next year, feeling like you have unfinished business, that somehow 931 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: something was taken from you that you feel like was 932 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: yours and you play that dominant of a first half 933 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: and somehow you can't get out of there with a 934 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: win to get another crack at Kansas City, who you 935 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: played better than anybody else in the league all season long. 936 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: So I hope it is. You know, look, it's better 937 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: than the guys saying yeah, I don't care, it doesn't 938 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: bother me. It's it's much better to hear Sebastian say, 939 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: I think about it all the time. 940 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: It harms just think defensively money and Sebastian brought up 941 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: this point like it was the first year a lot 942 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: of those guys had played together, you know. He mentioned 943 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 2: guys like Derwin and Kenneth Burray and himself, Austin Johnson 944 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: who got hurt, Morgan Fox, Michael Davis. So another year 945 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: together in this defense, a new voice as a defensive 946 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: coordinator and Derek Ansley who knows what that brings, and 947 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 2: just more familiarity as a unit. Get maybe having Joey 948 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 2: for for a majority of the year, Khalil, you know 949 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 2: all those things, and then you know, obviously the rookies 950 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 2: that we talked about, the red shirt rookies that we 951 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: talked about contributing this year. So defensively, I think it's 952 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 2: more there's more of an urgency on the defensive side 953 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 2: of the ball to drastically improve as opposed to the offense. 954 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 2: I know, with with Kellen Moore coming in, obviously things 955 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 2: are going to change. I don't envision Justin Herbert not 956 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 2: scoring points. I don't care who's calling the offense, but 957 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 2: I do think Kellen Moore is going to make a difference. 958 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 2: But I think really the onus is on the defense 959 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 2: to drastically improve the run d specifically, and you know, 960 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 2: all those guys talked about taking all three levels of 961 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 2: the defense to do that, and just you know, taking 962 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 2: the ball away, scoring on def all the things that 963 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 2: I think we expected this defense to look like last year, 964 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 2: it needs to look more that way in twenty twenty three. 965 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: No doubt, you hit it on the head. The offense 966 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 1: feel great about you got weapons everywhere, You've got a 967 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: dominant offensive line, You've got one of the best quarterbacks 968 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: in the league, defense. We forget how good it could 969 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: have been because of all the injuries. You've got two 970 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 1: All pros Joey Bosa and j C. Jackson that essentially 971 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: missed the entire season for all intents and purposes. So 972 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: how much better can that look when you have Joey 973 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: Bosa and j C. Jackson out there? And that was 974 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: the other exciting thing about the media availability is JC 975 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: and Derek talking about I feel like I'm gonna be 976 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: ready for week one and they're gonna need him, need 977 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: that big body in that physical matchup to step out, 978 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, step opposite Jalen Wadler, Tyreek Hill, pick one 979 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: and get after it. So that that was very encouraging. 980 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: I did not think that that would be the timeline 981 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: he'd share. Usually don't want to share timelines at all 982 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: because all you can do is, you know, fall short 983 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: of them. If you come back early, people get excited. 984 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: That you come back late, people get upset. Look at 985 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: look at Keenan, look at Joey. I mean, it's it's 986 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: why it's so hard to do the timeline thing. Remember 987 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: when Rashaan was talking about coming back and like, oh 988 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: he might back for Jacksonville and coach Staley was like, Eh, 989 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 1: let's slow down. If he's out there, great. It's probably 990 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 1: not gonna happen though, because you don't want to have 991 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: a letdown there, and obviously you don't want a guy 992 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: to try to rush himself back if it's it's only 993 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: going to make things worse. So but that was very 994 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: exciting to hear. 995 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 2: The expectations for JC have done like a complete one 996 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: eighty right like last year. It's like this ahead the 997 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 2: most picks in football last couple of years. He's gonna 998 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 2: you know, he's gonna lead the league in interceptions again 999 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: right now. I don't think you can even put it 1000 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 2: in your brain to count on him right away, but 1001 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 2: if you can, I mean, that's a heck of a bonus. 1002 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 2: You know, you talk about the corners, and you can 1003 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 2: never have enough corners. They have guys to roll out 1004 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 2: there week one that are pretty darn good. If you 1005 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: can add a healthy J. C. Jackson to the mix 1006 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: and he can be the guy that you signed him 1007 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: to be. Man, now we're talking about a completely different defense. 1008 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: Huge, Absolutely, you're talking about all three levels and being 1009 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: able to take away the team's number one weapon, and 1010 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: that's and that was the adjustment that they made with 1011 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: JC right before he got hurt and he started playing well. 1012 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: He did not have a good start to the season. 1013 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: He was playing horrible and talking about the adjustment. I 1014 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: just struggling with the scheme and finally they were like, 1015 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: just go follow that guy and he did and it 1016 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that's that's what he does. So to 1017 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: have that week one against Tyreek killer Jalen Waddle, to 1018 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: have it against you know, week two, Week three, Week 1019 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: three against Justin Jefferson in Minnesota, Week four against DeVante Adams, 1020 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: to be able to just put that guy there, this 1021 00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: is yours go to work a huge advantage. One more 1022 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: for you. 1023 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook is going to get released. He with the 1024 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 2: Florida State. We got some knowles on this team sure 1025 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 2: as we kind of wait for this Austin Eckler thing 1026 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 2: to unfold, would Dalvin Cook be a name that you 1027 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 2: would consider if things go in a different direction with Austin. 1028 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: What Look, Yeah, it'd be great to have him. I 1029 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: just I feel like he's in the same boat as 1030 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, and that is someone who wants money and 1031 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: a lot of it. And the vikings are essentially saying 1032 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: to Dalvin very similar things to the Chargers saying to Austin, 1033 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: we love you, we appreciate you, You're an important part 1034 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: of this team, but we can't do that. And word 1035 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: is he he doesn't want you look at the numbers 1036 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: that you've heard in it. It's like that just doesn't 1037 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: line up. And for his agent, that's what people forget 1038 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: is it's not just the player, it's the financial team 1039 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: around the player. You can't have an agent. The agent 1040 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: will refuse to do a low money deal because of 1041 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: how it looks. For the agent, it's that they want 1042 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 1: as much money as possible. So I'm assuming the Vikings 1043 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: are saying, hey, we'll bring you back, but it's got 1044 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 1: to be at this number, and you know that's going 1045 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: to be a decent number. It's not going to be 1046 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: a couple million bucks. It may not be fourteen million 1047 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: dollars or twelve million dollars, but it could be eight 1048 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: or nine million bucks, seven or eight million dollars, and 1049 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: that's just not something that's in the cards for the Chargers. 1050 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: I would guess with the money that they're going to 1051 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,919 Speaker 1: have to dole out to Justin Herbert and I'm still 1052 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 1: waiting for him to do a little bargain shopping here 1053 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: with some of the talent that's still out there. We've 1054 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: talked about it got out there, Leonard, Floyd, Yannick and Gocway, 1055 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: Bryce Callahan and Slot. You know, those are not those 1056 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: are not development inhibitors, as Bill Parcells would call them. 1057 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: Those Those are not vets that are taking reps away 1058 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: from young players that you want to develop and are 1059 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: probably better just inexperienced than the vets. Those are good 1060 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: vets that can add to a team. And it'll be 1061 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: interesting to see how long they're sitting out there waiting 1062 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: for all that cash that that isn't gonna come. Now 1063 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: there's post June first cuts when you can make those moves, 1064 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: and once those happen and teams are able to get 1065 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: some big money contracts off their books because they take 1066 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: less of a cap hit after June first, then is 1067 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: that that's that next wave. So that's sort of what 1068 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: we're waiting for here, Chris, these next fourteen days to 1069 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: see what those June June first cuts are. Who's going 1070 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: to have some money to spend, and what these free 1071 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: agents that are still out there are willing to settle 1072 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: for yep. 1073 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 2: Remember charges me a lot of these moves after the 1074 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 2: draft last year with uh with more did Box and 1075 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: Kyle van Noy. Yeah, Kyle's another name that's out there. 1076 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 2: But I think you know when you guy like when 1077 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 2: you draft a guy like Tully, I guess it's just 1078 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 2: a matter of what Kyle's gonna want as a veteran 1079 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 2: and how the money lines up, no doubt. Well, see 1080 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 2: it's Mason seventeenth. Like you said, money in a couple 1081 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: of weeks after June first, I think there'll be a 1082 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 2: little bit more action around the league in terms of 1083 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 2: player movement. But we appreciate Julielade coming on and joining us, 1084 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,919 Speaker 2: seeing our old friend, and well, we'll see you guys 1085 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 2: next week for money. I'm Chris. This has been Chargers Weekly.