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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: All about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all

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Speaker 2: about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride.

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Speaker 2: And our comic girl cheered for the right teams drama Queens,

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Speaker 2: Jolie's Girl of Girl Fashion, but your tough girl.

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Speaker 3: You could sit with us.

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Speaker 4: Girl Drama Queens, Drama, Queens, Drama, Queens, Drama Drama, Queens,

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Speaker 4: Drama Queens.

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Speaker 5: Where are you?

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Speaker 2: Rob?

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Speaker 5: Funny story Joy. I am at a hotel in my

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Speaker 5: hometown and I just had a very funny realization. There's

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Speaker 5: a lot going on at the house this morning, so

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Speaker 5: I figured I should duck out some place that I

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Speaker 5: knew I could actually get some quiet. And it just

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Speaker 5: dawned on me that I showed up to this hotel

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Speaker 5: to ear grin because I was so excited to do

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Speaker 5: this right. And I go to check in and she's like,

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Speaker 5: I'm not seeing your thing. I said, oh, it was

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Speaker 5: actually for last time. I'm only going to be here

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Speaker 5: and I'm getting I'm like looking at my watch and

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Speaker 5: she's like Okay, here's you room like great great things

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Speaker 5: thing Cia, and I thought I didn't crea. I'll tell

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Speaker 5: her that she for sure thinks I'm having an affair.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh for sure.

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Speaker 5: I have a wedding ring. I'm wearing gym. I look

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Speaker 5: like a guy who was like, honey, I'm going to

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Speaker 5: the gym and then, oh my god, a doubt to

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Speaker 5: the hotel in his hometown for an hour and a half.

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Speaker 5: Why would I admit that? I mean, I guess because

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Speaker 5: checkouts at noon. But so for sure, this hotel staff

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Speaker 5: right now thinks that I'm the guy having an affair. Amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think he should just keep it going, just confused.

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Speaker 1: It gives everybody something to talk about.

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Speaker 5: Guys, I'm just a boy with a podcast. I'm not

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Speaker 5: having an affair.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: God is the perfect way to kick off this episode.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Well, hey everyone, the drama Queens. We have

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Speaker 1: season seven, episode three, Hold my hand as I'm Lowered.

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Speaker 1: Air date September twenty eight, two thousand and nine. Hey, Sophia,

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Speaker 1: you want to read the synopsis?

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Speaker 3: I sure do. Joy the synopsis of this episode, Ladies

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Speaker 3: and Gentlemen, is Clay and Nathan disagree on how to

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Speaker 3: handle an ever worsening scandal, and Haley begins to wonder

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Speaker 3: if Rene's accusations have merit. Quinn and Brooke organize a

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Speaker 3: photo shoot, and Mouth ups the stakes in his battle

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Speaker 3: with Skills. Meanwhile, Alex makes Julian an interesting proposition. And

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Speaker 3: of course this episode was directed by Liz Friedlander. She's

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Speaker 3: just so great pace.

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Speaker 4: So before we get started, I have to tell you guys,

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Speaker 4: for all you friends out there, I am in Cooperstown,

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Speaker 4: New York, because my nephew is playing in the Cooperstown Tournament.

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Speaker 4: If you don't know much.

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Speaker 3: About baseball, it's it's like a little league.

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Speaker 4: Twelve year olds get chosen from their teams, get chosen

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Speaker 4: So I'm here the whole family in the woods to

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 3: Gasp, you guys are gonna have to tell me what happened.

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Speaker 3: I was like, where are we going with this? I

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Speaker 3: love the setting, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So I am now going to be the

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Speaker 1: fan who is listening to the episode like I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember this, so what is it that's going on?

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Speaker 4: So you're going to have to fill me in a

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Speaker 5: Fortunately for you, I think soph and I are overachievers,

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Speaker 5: and I'm pretty sure I don't want to speak for you,

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Speaker 5: well took copious notes and sure did. We can cliff

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Speaker 4: Excellent excellent so so that this is the first time

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Speaker 5: I appreciate your honesty because I actually was wondering this

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Speaker 5: And then I thought if I was that spot, would

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Speaker 5: like sneak by, So way to be brave, Joy, way

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Speaker 3: Be realal So, somebody start because it can't be met.

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Speaker 5: So we open on a French cafe and a little

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Speaker 5: So where do we start?

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Speaker 3: We actually open on you Joy. The first shot of

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Speaker 3: the photos of Nathan and Renee at that party, half

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Speaker 4: So Haley knows and this is gonna this is gonna

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Speaker 4: Do we know what James or what Nathan told her

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Speaker 4: like was it is? Is he sticking to his story right,

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Speaker 4: like it's all the same thing that he's told Clay.

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Speaker 5: that in fact, this is the scene Joy, when I

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Speaker 5: Should we just talk about it right now, get into it. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 5: so you lay into me. Clay has a fair counter argument,

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Speaker 5: The only thing I could think in my head was

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Speaker 4: Every little thing in context when you're just dropping in

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Speaker 5: Listen, this episode was This might just be every episode again.

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Speaker 4: on the show like that, Like Dan, you always really

438
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 4: know at the baseline what's actually going on, no matter

439
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 4: what he's putting up.

440
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: But I like this. I like this the.

441
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 4: Introduction of a character that's so complex and she's got

442
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 4: so many different layers.

443
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 3: Janna manages to play her in this way where she

444
00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: leans into everything horrible so much, but there's release something

445
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: under there, like she's Alex is the kind of character

446
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: that drives you crazy, but something in you likes her.

447
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 3: And I made a note. I was like, oh my god,

448
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: I'm having the joy experience when I when we get

449
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 3: to the end of the episode and I'm watching like

450
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: the genuine flirtation between Alex and Julian I hate it.

451
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, I hate that. Oh I really don't like.

452
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 5: That at all.

453
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: Wow, oh my god. I remember when Joy said this

454
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: about Haley not liking seeing Nathan with somebody because you yeah.

455
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: And then I was like, well, I guess maybe that's

456
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: part of how you know as an actor that you're

457
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 3: in the right like endgame relationship, because I was like,

458
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: oh no, I hate this part. Like Julian is Brooks person,

459
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: ma'am go.

460
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 4: Away, yeah, excuse me, ma'am yeah bye.

461
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: But like they're so good and so likable. Then I'm

462
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 3: watching it going, well, of course he likes her. Look

463
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: at her. How could you not like her? She's so

464
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: funny and horrible but great.

465
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 5: And then what they did that was so smart? Was

466
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 5: it because it wasn't just about a physical thing it

467
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 5: would have it would have really kind of put Julian

468
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 5: in a bad light if it was just a pretty

469
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 5: girl flirting with him and him entertaining it. What it

470
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 5: actually becomes is she shows up at at Brooke and

471
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 5: Julian's place with a script.

472
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

473
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 5: She's like, I know you think I'm dumb. I am,

474
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 5: but I also know what I'm doing and this is

475
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 5: a good script and you're a producer and you should

476
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 5: read it so and then then it's like, Okay, he's

477
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 5: not It's not just that he's chasing the next pretty thing.

478
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 5: There's actually something here that he finds intriguing and there

479
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 5: might be a business. It was just a It was

480
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 5: a great way to sort of allow what happened to

481
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 5: happen without it being like, is he not the guy

482
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 5: we thought he was.

483
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's endeared to her because she is smart.

484
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 3: And it's rooted in the purpose he feels like he's lacking.

485
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 3: She pushes his buttons early in the episode Joy and

486
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: asks why he's not doing that movie in New Zealand,

487
00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 3: and he said he was looking for something else, And

488
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 3: it later comes back around where she essentially says, oh

489
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: you you thought I meant something else could be me. No,

490
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: it's this script I have for you. And so she's

491
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: meeting him in this space of like loss and lack

492
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 3: with you know, purpose, maybe his next creative thing. And

493
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: so there's like a passion to bond over not just

494
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: an energy.

495
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 5: Yes, and she allows that that moment to happen, which

496
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 5: is great, your business savvy, You're not just a one

497
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 5: note terrible person. And then literally in the same breath, goes, Actually,

498
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 5: another boy's having me tonight, but I can come by

499
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 5: afterwards if you want. So it was like she earned

500
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: a moment and then was like, but I'm Alex so.

501
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: No, yeah, but I love that. That's what keeps me giggling.

502
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, just when I felt something about

503
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: this energy, now I want to punch her all over again.

504
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 4: Great, I appreciate how complex she is.

505
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 5: Hey, random sidebar love Gene Wilder, did you know that

506
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 5: he told the director of Willy Wonka that was that

507
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 5: that whole move where he walks with the cane and

508
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 5: then rolls and jumps up that wasn't in the script.

509
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 5: That was Jean's idea. And he said, I'm not doing

510
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 5: the movie if we're not doing it. And then director said,

511
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 5: are you are you serious? Why? And he said, because

512
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: it sets up the entire movie that if I do that,

513
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 5: from that point on, you won't know what's real and

514
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 5: what's make believe. Isn't that a genius?

515
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: I mean, so genius, so smart? Incredible.

516
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, speaking of smart, let's talk about Rachel. Because Rachel

517
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 5: and Dan's story unfolding this episode I thought was told

518
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 5: so incredibly well, it was so interesting the shot of

519
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 5: when when Rachel reveals that she was the one, so

520
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 5: this sorry joy. This is when Paul is doing his show.

521
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 5: Excuse me. Dan's doing a show and a man stands

522
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 5: up midshow and is like murder, murder. Oh he catches

523
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 5: him off guard, but they roll and Rachel says, roll

524
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 5: the cameras. Then they come back to it after and

525
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 5: when it's after the show and Rachel walks up and

526
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 5: Dan says like, I'm sorry, and she's like, don't be.

527
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 5: I planned that. There's this great moment. So first of all,

528
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 5: you realize she is just so business savvy. Also like

529
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 5: does she care about him or is it business? But

530
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 5: then isn't this end that's seen great? So if I

531
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 5: thought Liz did such a good job where it has raped,

532
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 5: the shot has watches Rachel walk off stage but she

533
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 5: literally it's just her silhouette and she walks into darkness

534
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 5: and just fades to black.

535
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 3: It was so well lit. That got me, and and

536
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 3: what I loved about their story is you see you

537
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 3: see her power as you know, his business partner and wife,

538
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: and he does that he'll be like my producer who's

539
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: also my wife. Is how he brings her on stage.

540
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: In this episode, it just was like, oh my god,

541
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: you see not just her in the moment, you get

542
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: the flashbacks and you see it go back, so you

543
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: see when they meet, because when he brings her up,

544
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: they start doing this whole storytelling about like, oh, and

545
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: when we met, we wanted the same thing and it

546
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 3: was so chaste and like he's wasted in a strip

547
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: club and she recognizes him and is performing and you know,

548
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: you have all these scenes of them in this motel

549
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: and he's drinking himself to death and he's reading all

550
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: these self help books and she's kind of going at

551
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 3: him about what a lazy, you know, way that is

552
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: to try to fix yourself, and then he says something

553
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: and she realizes like, oh, that's a self help book,

554
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: and immediately she makes him stop quit drinking. She's like,

555
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: don't drink that I need you. Do you want to

556
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: get out of here? And I was like, I'm obsessed

557
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: with her.

558
00:27:46,240 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, Wiley, this show is very good at at not

559
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 5: letting you figure people out right away, or just giving

560
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 5: multi layered portrayals of people. Because that whole flashback storytelling

561
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 5: starts with her in a strip club and so you're like, Okay,

562
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 5: she's the hot girl as a stripper, now whatever, and

563
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 5: then yeat like so if was saying, it ends with

564
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 5: her being smart enough to realize there's an amazing business

565
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: opportunity here where we can both get out of this rut.

566
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 5: And there's also the way that the storytelling and the

567
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 5: way it shot is so great because they finish having

568
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 5: sex and they roll off each other and she says,

569
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 5: not bad for a guy with a bad heart, and

570
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: he says, why don't you stay the night and see

571
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 5: if you can kill me? And she says that'll be expensive,

572
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 5: and he says that's okay, I'm rich and I'm dying.

573
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 5: And then it cuts to them in the present day

574
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: on stage, being sweet and polished, and she's like, he

575
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 5: had everything I wanted and he's like, and so did you.

576
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 5: And I thought that was such a great moment of

577
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 5: sort of like exposing how much hypocrisy, see there is

578
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 5: in terms of like how people portray their lives to

579
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 5: be versus what it actually is, you know. And they

580
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 5: did such a good job with their stuff.

581
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 3: It was great, and they're so subtle together, and you

582
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: watch and I think that's where you see Paul and

583
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: Neil a bit because they're both so smart, and you

584
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: watch in these quiet moments with Dan and Rachel, they're

585
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: having this real tete a tet. You see their sort

586
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: of reactions and looks communicating with each other before they speak,

587
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: and it's so refreshing because you know that when they're

588
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: on the talk show set, they're performing, but when you

589
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 3: get to see underneath when they're not, like it actually

590
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: made me such a fan of them as a unit.

591
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, and getting to see again that he's so sweet

592
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 5: and soft with her. You know, he's so charismatic on camera,

593
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 5: but then he kind of becomes a little boyish around her,

594
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 5: you know. And so again it's that it's not making

595
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 5: it easy to figure him out.

596
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: Is it really still drawing out the mystery that we

597
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: were discussing last time of seeing him with his God Rob.

598
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 4: I meant to mention it last time you use this

599
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: phrase the man experiencing homelessness instead of saying a homeless man.

600
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: I just thought that was such a lovely phrase. But yeah,

601
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: so he was, you know, sitting down with that man,

602
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: and we were talking about how it seems there's this

603
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: ambiguity of like, where is he is he actually trying

604
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: to change is Does this episode continue that question or

605
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: is it more clear that it's like, no, he's definitely

606
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 4: a full hypocrite and this is all a ruse.

607
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: I think No, I think it's still very much telling

608
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 5: a story where this could be the new Dan because

609
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 5: what they're showing in this story part of it is

610
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: he was a guy at rock bottom who wanted to die,

611
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 5: and now he seems to be a man with purpose.

612
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 5: So up until this point you can be suspect of

613
00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 5: her because her trajectory does seem quite opportunistic, as his

614
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 5: seems genuine.

615
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: And she's not.

616
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: Being forthright that she used to be a hook, well,

617
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: a stripper. I guess if she's charging him, then she's

618
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: a prostitute also. But like she's not being forthright that

619
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: this is where I used to be and now I'm

620
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: in it. I've recovered from the position that I was

621
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: in before.

622
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

623
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: So is it like we're hiding this or she's being

624
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 4: open about it?

625
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 5: No? No, because when we first when he we first

626
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 5: see him on the talk show, he says, my wife

627
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 5: used to drink and sleep around, like.

628
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 3: Drugs and all the things.

629
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, that when he first I remember hearing

630
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: for the first time going, buddy, you are roasting your

631
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: wife and we need to be this honest. But no,

632
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 5: so they to their credit, they've been pretty forthright with yeah, work,

633
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: we came from a pretty unhappy place. Yeah.

634
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: I don't think they're being forthright about their first date night, yes, right,

635
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: but they are very open about who they used to be.

636
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: You know, the sort of stereotype of the broken person

637
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: I used to be seems to really be.

638
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. Thing we shall see. I want to know what

639
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: happened with the mouth and skills.

640
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: Oh.

641
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 5: First of all, one of my very first notes is

642
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 5: I love the pickle that we have found Mouth in

643
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 5: because what it opens with him at the news station

644
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 5: and his station manager coming up and going, hey, your

645
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 5: buddy is Nathan Scott. Oh yeah, old buddy's great. He

646
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 5: went into a restaurant flipped out on a woman the

647
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 5: other day and can you look into it? And it's

648
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 5: then he then he meets up with Nathan that river

649
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 5: court and has to ask him. But what's what I

650
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 5: loved about it. Mouth is such a big heart man.

651
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 5: He's such a good friend because he asked Nathan and

652
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: he doesn't ask if it's true. First, the first thing

653
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 5: he says was I'm so sorry, man, yeah, you know,

654
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 5: and he ends the conversation with Nathan says, what are

655
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 5: you going to do and he says nothing, let me

656
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 5: know if you need anything. I thought, oh, man, that's

657
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: a buddy. He's got his back, you know. And then,

658
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: to Nathan's credit, because he knows that the situation that

659
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 5: mouth is in. After mouth says that and starts to

660
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 5: walk away, he stops me and goes, hey, you do

661
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 5: what you gotta do. You have the job to do

662
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: if you have to report your report, you know. And

663
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 5: I thought that was there was so much respect shown

664
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 5: between the two.

665
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: Wow, that's tough, right, yeah.

666
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 5: Because what do you do. It's like you always of

667
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: course you want to believe the best in your friends,

668
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 5: but then you have to sort of entertain an alligator.

669
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 5: I thought. I thought it actually was kind of quite

670
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 5: timely with sort of everything that has happened with me

671
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: too and everything in the past, where I thought, oh,

672
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, how do you reconcile if someone you

673
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: love has done something you know that you don't agree

674
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 5: with or that is just straight up bad, you know,

675
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: And OH thought, oh my godsh So when it's the

676
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 5: episode started, I thought, oh, I can't wait to watch

677
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: you walk this line. Buddy, Wow, I love that.

678
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 4: I love Nathan just giving him the permission to do

679
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 4: his job. Be like, it's not going to affect our friendship.

680
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: I know you have a job to do. I know

681
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: you're not going to do something salacious and try and

682
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: do a hit piece on me or hurt me. Like,

683
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: but I also understand the position you're in and it's

684
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: a small town like you have to report what you report.

685
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: I'm WHOA, that's tough, but that's that's a lot of

686
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 4: that's a lot of honor and courage.

687
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 5: Stand up guy, a boss move, because if he knows

688
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 5: he's innocent, then why not weah Yeah, it's sort of

689
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 5: this conviction that he's like, I know how the story in,

690
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 5: so you do what you gotta do.

691
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, one way or the other. Eventually a paternity

692
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: test happens and he knows that the information will come out.

693
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: So also that's a real hole in her whole issue,

694
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 4: Like she's trying to get two hundred thousand dollars, but

695
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: for what, like, wait wait six months and find out.

696
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: Well, or is the goal to get the money before

697
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: you can find out if Renee is really the person

698
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: we're led to believe she is, right, Like, if she's

699
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: the kind of you know, stereotypical, you know, vixen, horrible

700
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: person who would do this to some family. Like, Okay,

701
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: but you know, if so, is the whole idea to

702
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: get paid before you could get an AMNIO or any

703
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: of those other tests.

704
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if she knows that it's not real and

705
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: it's not true, and she knows that he knows, and

706
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: she knows that he knows that she knows, then not

707
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: to make it too complicated, but like, why not just

708
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 4: wait six months.

709
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: Because I think what she's doing is playing off the

710
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 5: fact he is in a contract year right now and

711
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: he is trying to get a new deal, and this

712
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 5: could really hinder his value. I think that's what they're timing. Okay,

713
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 5: that it's entirely calculated that she knows he's up for

714
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 5: something right now and this would not help his case

715
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 5: at all.

716
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also, let's.

717
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 5: Be honest, it's the NBA that would not hurt him.

718
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 5: NBA has no problem paying people who do all sorts

719
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 5: of things, I mean, all professional sports. So it's a

720
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 5: kind of a altruistic assumption on the NBA's part, But

721
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 5: I think that's what she's going for, is that she

722
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 5: knows he's in a time crunch, and so she's just

723
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 5: trying to capitalize on that. You have a great line

724
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 5: Joy at the start of this episode where it's when

725
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: you and Nathan are talking about it for the first

726
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 5: time in the kitchen and you're looking at the party

727
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: pictures of she and Nathan and Clay off to the side,

728
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 5: and you say, drunken sluts with perfect teeth.

729
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: I wrote that down too.

730
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 5: I loved it. Yeah.

731
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: It was also a really good scene because you see

732
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: this smplicity of the situation. Nathan is like, I get

733
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: asked to take pictures all the time, and you are

734
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: explaining that because it's late and she looks the way

735
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: she looks, and his arm is around her and she's

736
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: carrying a cocktail and he's got a beer in his

737
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: other hand, like you know him. You know this is normal,

738
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 3: and you see but it looks bad and you should

739
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: be smart enough to know that. Yeah, And that's such

740
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: a thing, right, Like in our world, it doesn't always

741
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: matter what's true. It matters what something looks like absolutely.

742
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 5: And.

743
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: What I loved is that you seem to be clearly

744
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: communicating that you believe him and you know this isn't true.

745
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: But you know that everyone who likes to shot on

746
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 3: people out there in the world, I mean, hello, look

747
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: at the internet that they're going to go he did it.

748
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: I can tell by that photo, that meaningless photo. I

749
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: see something, and some stranger will side that what didn't

750
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: happen is true and you'll never be able to convince

751
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: them otherwise. Totally, that is so tough.

752
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: That is such a tough road to navigate. I mean

753
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 4: for everyone in the public eye or anyone in leadership positions,

754
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: like teachers who need to make sure that their doors

755
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: open when they're meeting with a female student. You know,

756
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 4: to your whatever you're I don't know who you're sitting

757
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: with in a restaurant or what you're posting online. It's

758
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 4: like there's an element of Okay, I am a human being.

759
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: I get to live my life, and I can't be

760
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 4: wandering around worrying about everyone and pleasing everyone in everyone's mind.

761
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: Think making sure that everybody knows and sees me the

762
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 4: correct like I just it's too much. You could never

763
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: But then there's also a tier of responsibility depending on

764
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 4: the position that you're in. And I don't know that

765
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: those lines are clear cut, but it is an interesting

766
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: topic to explore.

767
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, and what's fun about the Mouth dynamic of it

768
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: is he doesn't have the luxury of all of Nathan,

769
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: all the other people in Nathan's lives where he can

770
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 5: kind of sit back and wait for things to unfold.

771
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 5: He Yeah, he's a bit in a pressurized situation because

772
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 5: he's going to be forced to speak on it, speak

773
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 5: on it in one way or the other publicly, you know.

774
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 5: So he doesn't get to kind of sit back and go,

775
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 5: I don't I don't believe it, but let's just see,

776
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 5: you know, he has to actually come forward and start

777
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 5: reporting that. So I like that because I was immediately

778
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 5: stressed out for him. Yeah, I'm like, oh, I don't

779
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 5: envy this position at all, you know.

780
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: And the way there, the way the days diverge, is

781
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: so interesting because Mouth' day starts off hilarious. You know,

782
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: Skills gets up immediately, drops trow walks out into the

783
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: living room, and then you hear him scream at the

784
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 3: top of his lungs and you see Mouth walking out, laughing,

785
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: adjusting his tie on his way to work and like

786
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: they're having this fun day, and then he just gets

787
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: slammed sideways. And then the central theme in such separate

788
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: ways for Mouth and for Skills is really about friendship.

789
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: But Mouth is dealing with this crazy thing with Nathan,

790
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: and Skills calls Jamie to help him trap a lizard.

791
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 3: It's like they could not be having more opposite days.

792
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: But they circle back around together to each other on

793
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 3: this subject at the end, and hearing them talk about

794
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: their friendship was like even more weighted. I guess for me,

795
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: given what I'd seen Mouth just do with Nathan and their.

796
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 5: Friendship, Jamie was once again the wise little owl who

797
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 5: Skills initially calls to come over to help him the iguana,

798
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 5: and there's a hilarious exchange where Jamie's there and he's like,

799
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 5: all right, so how much you're gonna give me to

800
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 5: do it? And he goes all right, and he pulls

801
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 5: out like twenty bucks from his pocket and he goes cool.

802
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: He says something like this is catching cat catching a mouse.

803
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 5: That's catching a mouse, and so he starts he's he's

804
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 5: bargaining up Skills. The Skills is like Colma has to

805
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 5: give him all the money in his pocket, and he's like,

806
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 5: now I can catch a dragon. This is he says,

807
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 5: that's something like this isn't small dragon money or something.

808
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 5: But what it ends up becoming is then skills sort

809
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 5: of downloading the situation with mouth to Jamie, and again

810
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: Jamie just being a child, he just sort of says

811
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: what's obvious, what's simple, and what's honest, and skills you know,

812
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 5: sort of tells him what's going on. And he Jamie Skills, like,

813
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 5: why what did he say when you said that? And

814
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: he's like, oh, I guess I haven't said any of that.

815
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, dumb, dumb, tell him, tell him how

816
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 5: you feel basically, you know, talk to your friend. Yeah,

817
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 5: it talks to your friend, right, But again, it's just funny.

818
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 5: It's like it's the child who's able to see it

819
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: the most clearly. I have a question. So if I

820
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 5: guess this one's for you, but Joy, you can weigh

821
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: on this. So later in the episode, there's a fun

822
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 5: there's a fun bit where Brooke takes Quinn and I

823
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 5: think Millie joins as well, out to trick for a

824
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 5: drink because in Haley in Haley's area. That's right because

825
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 5: they go out because Haley's having such a hard time

826
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 5: with what's going on, with what's transporting, and because at

827
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 5: this point it looks like they are leaning towards having

828
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 5: to pay two hundred thousand dollars to this woman who's lying.

829
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 5: So Haley is out of sorts. It looks like I'm

830
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 5: going to take you to trick. We're going to drink,

831
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 5: and so there's some funny stuff there. But towards the

832
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 5: end of it, Alex walks up to Clay. Clay's drinking

833
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 5: and she's like, oh, it's a Keila. I used to

834
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 5: love that, you know. Clay's like, oh cool, and he

835
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 5: takes a shot and she kisses me as soon as

836
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 5: I have had the shot, like presumably to get like

837
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 5: a little taste on her lips. And then when she

838
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 5: throws herself at me, I'm like, great, be at my pouse.

839
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 5: In thirty minutes, her exit move is she licks my neck,

840
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 5: And my first thought was ew and has nothing to

841
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 5: do with Alex or Janet. It's just I don't want

842
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 5: anyone anyone licking me. But I thought my question was

843
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 5: was there ever a time when that was hot? Would

844
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 5: that ever work? For you if a dude licked you?

845
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: First of all, was this in the script?

846
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: It had to be.

847
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: I think it was meant to be kind of like

848
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: a because she kisses him to get the tequila, does

849
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: the lime? And I I think it was like a oh,

850
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: you're looking for sweating, you're looking for salt? Was okay?

851
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: God was the idea. But no, if some if a

852
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: person just licked me, they'd get punched in the face. Yes,

853
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 3: that's so. I mean, you guys are flirting and kissing

854
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: and clearly arranging to like have a little sexy time.

855
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: But like.

856
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: If if just a human in a bar licked me, no, dog,

857
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: you're getting punched right in the mouth.

858
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 5: Yeah. This this felt like one of those moments where

859
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 5: I was keenly aware of how much time has passed

860
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 5: for me between shooting this series and where I am now.

861
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 5: Because I'm at the time, I did not bump on it.

862
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: I probably thought, yeah, is this hot? And now at

863
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 5: forty three years old, I watched it and I went

864
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 5: ew disgusting. No, that would be my heart out. I'm done,

865
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 5: I gotta go wash my neck. You're was it a.

866
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: Strong lick or was it like a little like a

867
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: little taste, no joy. It was strong, like a head

868
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: grab and a and a what would you say, like

869
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: under collarbone to under ear.

870
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 5: It went clavially almost to ear lobe tip. That's a

871
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 5: lot of real estate. That's a lot of delicate real estate.

872
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: Also close to my nose. So if you have bad breath,

873
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 5: I might catch it with of it, and then I'm

874
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: for sure throwing up and we can never see each

875
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 5: other again.

876
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 3: Never.

877
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 5: That's a nightmare of mine. Listen, uh, insight into my

878
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 5: childhood trauma. One of the things my mom used to

879
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 5: do to me was once I got too big for

880
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 5: her to like people like wrestle me or man handle me,

881
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 5: and she knew she'd like lost that she would lick

882
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 5: her finger and wipe it on me. No true, Unfortunately,

883
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 5: I swear to God it's the truth in it disgusted

884
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 5: me to no end, so she knew it worked. So

885
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 5: I got to say, I also am bringing emotional baggage

886
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 5: into this reaction, and I'm going to own that. Listener,

887
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 5: I get it, but I still think it's disgusting.

888
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: You know what I will say, Rob, is bravo to you,

889
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: because what that is is you identifying a trigger and

890
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: clearly your therapist is great.

891
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 5: Gold star from Trevor.

892
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: A my guy. I don't know. I'm thinking about this.

893
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm trying to be I'm trying to be fair.

894
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, if I met somebody at a

895
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: bar and we're flirting and it's like going well, and

896
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: we do shots.

897
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: And then they lick you like a basset hound, not.

898
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 4: Not strongly like that I could not handle, like maybe

899
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: like a little tongue tuck, like just like a little

900
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 4: taste before we walk out a door together.

901
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: Like but in a kiss you mean not in no, no,

902
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 3: like you look.

903
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 5: Like a isolated event.

904
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: I don't know why my instinct is it. I don't know, No, no,

905
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: you would want to kiss instead? Yeah, but or like

906
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: it's I No, I.

907
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: Feel like I could see it being a little sexier

908
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: from a girl than a guy for some reason.

909
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 5: Well can confirm, right though, you have to go to

910
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 5: YouTube and watch what Sofa was just how she was

911
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 5: just that's not.

912
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 3: Going I just am like, how, what's the scene? What's

913
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: the blocking? Also, I realized, like we're so Pavlovian. I

914
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: have this little square, so I'm trying to fit all

915
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: my action into it and then I just look like

916
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: a mole, like I don't know what I'm doing, but yeah,

917
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

918
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 4: Man, that feels like a little much the clavical to ears.

919
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: Like they had her do. She's a real player.

920
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 5: She went for it.

921
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

922
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 5: I actually think what may have happened was correct me

923
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 5: if I'm wrong, But I believe when Tommy Lee and

924
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 5: Pamela Anderson were a couple, there was a famous moment

925
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 5: or a famous picture of him licking the side of

926
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 5: her face.

927
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 3: Hmm.

928
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: Oh, I do want to say that. I feel like

929
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 5: our boss was very influenced by rock stars. Yeah, so

930
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 5: it would not surprise me if that was something that

931
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 5: was seen and I was like, hey, that guy did it.

932
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 5: It's it's cool and sexy.

933
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. The only person I've ever I mean pantomime.

934
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: I didn't like swipe the lick, but I did that

935
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: pose once with my best friend Cameron, which like tracks

936
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: because Cameron gay and not a man who I'm like

937
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: involved with. It was it was like this very funny

938
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: thing that we did. I was like adjusting his bow

939
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: tie and someone referenced that. So he took this photo

940
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: because it was like this amazing black and white. It

941
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. I'm digressing. It got so creepy. Great because

942
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: it's honestly like a very sexy picture. But you know,

943
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 3: neither of us wants to date each other, so that's

944
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: not it. Years later, someone took that photo and photoshopped

945
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 3: Jensen's face into it, so now it looks like there

946
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 3: is a picture of me licking Danil's husband's face.

947
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: Why do people do these things?

948
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, because they want to do like

949
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 3: some whoever his character was on Supernatural and Brook Davis

950
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: like fan fiction. I don't know, but it's so creepy

951
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: to all of us involved, and like, I don't know, man,

952
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: it's a good thing. You know.

953
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 4: Now you can't trust any pictures that you see ever,

954
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 4: because everything is just yeah, digitally altered.

955
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 5: The problem is we know that the internet doesn't know that.

956
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 5: So the problem is that photo gets reposted. Oh yeah,

957
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 5: and before a voice of reason comes in, there'll be

958
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 5: one hundred people who will be like, that's not right.

959
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 5: She's he's married. They she should know better, and then

960
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 5: like eighty comments down will be someone going actually this

961
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: is an edited photo from twenty sixteen. Yeah, but point

962
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 5: people have already had two hours to get upset about it.

963
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: You know, well, and that's exactly it. That's exactly it.

964
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: It's so it's just icky to me.

965
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, so, I guess I've never heard your

966
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: heart to lick anyone's face. I mean, I get it

967
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: in a comical context, like obviously that's funny, but as

968
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: like a sexy move.

969
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: No, but not as that's exactly what I that's I

970
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: guess why I'm like describing the literal zero ounce of

971
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 3: chemistry Cameron and I have because it's like it's it

972
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: has to be a gag or I guess they ask

973
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: for a scene. I just don't know that that would

974
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: be like a I don't know, not for me. I'm

975
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: on team Robin. I'm not into the licking. We're moving on.

976
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 5: It can't be a move. Maybe a flourish at best,

977
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 5: but you can't be like I open doors, I pick

978
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: up checks and I lick next. You know that can't

979
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 5: be your romantic toolkit.

980
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god, why do I feel like you just

981
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: wrote a country song? You did?

982
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 5: Oh my god? We need that on a t sh

983
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 5: Joey get to it.

984
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: I open doors and I right chicks.

985
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 5: There it is.

986
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: I flirt with boys and I.

987
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: Lick there next gross.

988
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: Gross, you know what I do want to shout out

989
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: though that was also great, And again just to really

990
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: repeat how hilarious Janna is. Before she makes out with

991
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 3: Clay for the tequila and grabs the lime, she orders

992
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: two tequila shots at the bar Joy and she's like,

993
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: in a terrible disguise, you know, it's Alex Dupray, and

994
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: Millie catches her and she goes, well, we're drinking, and

995
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: she makes Milly take both tequila shots. And when Milly

996
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: takes the shots, she bites the line Alex does and

997
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 3: just watches and she looks at her and she goes,

998
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: are we drunk it? And Millie kind of shakes her

999
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 3: head and goes, no, we're buzzed, and she's like, oh,

1000
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: I love being buzzed. And it's it is so funny.

1001
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: It's just so funny. I love that. I love the unpredictability.

1002
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 3: And a girl who plays like.

1003
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 4: She is she actually playing dumb. Is she using her

1004
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 4: and she's just using her entire toolkit, her body, her wiles,

1005
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: her wisdom, her vulnerability, like all the things. I mean,

1006
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: it's kind of terrifying somebody who is able to manipulate

1007
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: all of themselves in that way, but super fun to watch.

1008
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 5: So sure. We also had the arrival at the very

1009
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 5: end of Alison Mun's real life husband, Scott Olroyd Yes

1010
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 5: Sean tells husband, So that was kind of a fun reveal.

1011
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 5: At the very end, she's she's not answering her phone

1012
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 5: a trick, and then he's awkward right behind her. Oh,

1013
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: she screens this call and he's like, you're gonna have

1014
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 5: to answer sooner or later.

1015
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: Like, ooh, it's a.

1016
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: Long, wonderful what's with the photo shoot? You guys organize

1017
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: a photo shoot for what is this the Alex thing?

1018
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, it's the big close over bros. Shoot.

1019
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: So the the sort of running past Julian and only

1020
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 3: his boxers in the morning happens because Brooke is saying

1021
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: she's late, and it's like this whirlwind of you know,

1022
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 3: me going to work and him being stuck at home,

1023
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 3: and it's really well set up from the beginning. Tim

1024
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 3: our actual makeup artist from the show, is playing Alex's

1025
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: makeup artist. It's very flourish of things happening in the store,

1026
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: and then we go and do the photo shoot up

1027
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: on the roof that used to be the put Putt course. Yeah,

1028
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 3: and it's really like, it's fun and it's lively and

1029
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: it's loud and there's a lot of I don't know,

1030
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: I felt like we kind of got a peek behind

1031
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: the curtain at production, obviously in like a very pop way.

1032
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 3: I liked it.

1033
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: Is that the first time we seen the golf course

1034
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: not golf coursey. Yeah, I think so, I don't know,

1035
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: removed that was sad. That was sad when it disappeared.

1036
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 5: There was also a funny moment at that shoot where

1037
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 5: it opens with Alex showing up a proper mess, just

1038
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 5: hung over and disheveled, and announces to a room full

1039
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 5: of people, I need a pill. That's when the whole

1040
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 5: bit where Sophi is trying to slap the pillar ye

1041
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 5: oh yeah yeah, And so it's she's made a whole

1042
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 5: production of that, right, And then later at the end

1043
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 5: of the shoot or towards the end of the shoot,

1044
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 5: you see her sort of sneak away and Millie walks

1045
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 5: by and goes like, uh you good. She goes, yeah,

1046
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 5: I just need a water, And after Millia walks away,

1047
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 5: she like surreptitiously tries to take a pill, Like, why

1048
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 5: are we being coy now? You literally announced to the

1049
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 5: entire room I need a pill when you walked in

1050
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 5: the door.

1051
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: You don't want to get attacked. She wanted to get

1052
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: bum rushed.

1053
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh see, that makes more sense. I guess I

1054
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 5: was thinking of it like she thought she was keeping

1055
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 5: a secret, And to me, I'm like, there's no secret.

1056
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 5: You cat came out of the bag the second you

1057
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 5: walked in the room. You know, But that makes sense.

1058
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: She doesn't want to get.

1059
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Joy, what was your honorable mention from the episode.

1060
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 3: My honorable mention is your thumb on my shoulder. Just yeah,

1061
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: the last little detail. Oh my god. Honestly, my honorable

1062
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: mention occurs. It's a very random thing, but I was

1063
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: very impressed by it. When we're doing Glam before the

1064
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: shoot for Alex downstairs that close over, Bros. Joy, Julian

1065
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: walks in and hands me my coffee order. Millie her

1066
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 3: coffee order, turns around to Quinn with her coffee order

1067
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: and says, I called Hayley And I was like that,

1068
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: that's nice. That's nice. Keep that man, like, keep keep

1069
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: that energy with people. I the thought that you know,

1070
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: somebody would do that I was like, honorable mention for sure.

1071
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeahs move sir, Yeah, he's a good dude.

1072
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 5: Mine would be from the same scene where when Alex

1073
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 5: sits in the chair. So if you come in red

1074
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 5: Hot with the line where you lean in and you

1075
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 5: say to Tim the makeup artist, you might want to

1076
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 5: start with a little lying slut remover. They just e

1077
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 5: been thinking, this is the person you just paid five

1078
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars to look happy in your clothing right

1079
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 5: before the shoot you opened it. Why don't use a

1080
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 5: little lying slut remover on her? Oh good?

1081
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: We just had to commit.

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Speaker 5: It was great. So many quotables in the show, so

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Speaker 5: many great lines.

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Speaker 4: Man, I can't wait to watch this episode. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: so a doubleheader.

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Speaker 3: I love it. Well, we have a listener question, oh

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Speaker 3: Kayla asks if you could have any character from Wintree

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Speaker 3: Hill as your best friend in real life, who would

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Speaker 3: it be and why? That's so sweet?

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00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 5: It's a great question.

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Speaker 3: See, I'm going broker skills I like.

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Speaker 4: I think both are excellent choices for very different reasons.

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Speaker 3: I love that honestly. Yeah, I'd want to be friends

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Speaker 3: with Brook Davis, but that might like break the time

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Speaker 3: space continuum. So I would one hundred percent love to

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Speaker 3: have Skills as my best friend. Why not?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, skills. I Skills is great because you also

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00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 5: know you're going to get a little Jamie, because those

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Speaker 5: two are a tandem package. But for the sake of

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Speaker 5: just of being different, I will say mouth because I

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Speaker 5: was really moved by how sweet he was. I just

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Speaker 5: felt like I was watching a real, steady good friend

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Speaker 5: this episode, and that's what I'd like. I'd just give me,

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Speaker 5: give me a good, steady buddy. Who's in my corner?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. She's been a while.

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Speaker 3: Let's see.

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Speaker 5: Most likely to save you from a bad first date?

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Speaker 3: I love it. How is that not Brooke? Who else

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00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: would it be? Maybe Millie?

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Speaker 5: Brooke was my immediate knee jerk as well. My second

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00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 5: thought was Clay because we see him doing a lot

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Speaker 5: of cleaning up.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a lot of crisis. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, my heart immediately shouted Brooke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I feel that it's unanimous. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think all of Brook's friends have a text code

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00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: with her and they I don't know what the code

1118
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Speaker 4: word is, but she gets that message and it's like

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00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,959
Speaker 4: check the location, show up and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you get the costs happened. That's right,

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Speaker 3: must go quick, Willie feel down the well, you better

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Speaker 3: come with me now.

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Speaker 5: It's like it's it's the Brooks signal instead of the

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Speaker 5: Bat signals a giant. It's a giant thumbs down shown

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Speaker 5: into the sky and she knows she needs to swoop

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00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 5: in and save a friend from a landing. What do

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Speaker 5: we got next episode? So?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, next week, Season seven, episode four, Believe me,

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Speaker 3: I'm lying? Okay, dear, hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget

1130
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1132
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Speaker 3: us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com. See you

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Speaker 3: next time.

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