1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Baseball America. Is JJ Cooper joining us right now, also 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: star of Hot Sheet every week, which you can catch 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: on the Baseball American YouTube channel and on their podcast platforms. JJ, 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: I'll let you announce to the world this very big 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: day in Baseball America. I don't want to say history 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: because it happens every year, but it is one of 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: the most popular days for the publication. We're all staring 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: at the Top one hundred Prospects List, Top. 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: One hundred prospect cilists out. I want to say, first, 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Aj and Eric, I agree with you guys, like that's 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: a great trade for the Mets. We'll see for the 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: White Sucks. But yes, Akunya utility man, we'll see how 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: it turns out. But yes, it's top hundred day. We're 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: talking about guys who should turn out to be a 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: little bit more than that top of this list. I 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: would say is as one of those we have years 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: where you're like, okay, you got to rank someone number one. 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: You have other years where you have multiple guys that 19 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: you would love to rank number one. I think a 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: couple of years ago when we had like shoey Otani 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: and Fernando Tatist Junior and Vladimir Guerrero Junior. Like, okay, 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: can we rank three guys one or Bobby Witt Junior 23 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: and Adlie Rushman and Julio Rodriguez. This year is a 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: little bit closer to like that. Connor Griffin, Pirate shortstop, 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: is our number one prospect on the list, But Kevin McGonagall, 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: the Tiger shortstop, is our number two prospect, and there 27 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: are a lot of years that he would be number 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: one on this list. These are two guys who have 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: very well rounded skill sets. In the case of Connor Griffin, 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: you could be a plus shortstop, you could be a 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: plus or better defender and center. It's kind of where 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: the Pirates want to play him. Power, speed, arm. And 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: in mcgonagall's case, you're talking about a guy who's one 34 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: of the best hitting prospects we've seen in years. We 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: put an eighty on his hit tool, which is the 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: top of the scale. I think the last time we 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: did that was Vladimir Guerrero Junior several years ago now. 38 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: So it's a very talented top of this list, and 39 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: it's also the most shortstops we've ever had on it. 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Twenty eight short stops in the top hundred I think 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of that that the success of 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: the Corey Seegers, the Carlos Correaz and al mean that 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: shortstops are allowed to stay there. At Elie de la Cruz. 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 2: You're allowed to stay there even if you're big and tall, 45 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: a little bit more often than you were in the past, 46 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: and so maybe that's why it is. But the top four, 47 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: as you see right there on our top ten, are 48 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: all short stops, and Cole Emerson at number seven as 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: well also a shortstop. Many more short stops on this 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: list after that as well. 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: When you put an eighty on a hit tool, I 52 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: don't know that everybody understands Kevin McGonagall hit tool eighty 53 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: When you said Vladimir Guerrero, that's like elite company. Doesn't 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: that make his impact in the big leagues sooner than 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: a Connor Griffin Because Connor Griffin, regardless of what team 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: he's playing on, it's you know, Connor Griffin's large. He's 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: got to learn, he's got to learn the position, how 58 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: to move with that body. There's a little bit more 59 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: question marks. So is mcgonagall's hit tool what pushes him 60 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: to the big leagues successfully Before Connor Griffin, who has 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 3: to like iron out some things being such a big shortstop. 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think McGonagall is a shorter guy, and I 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: think there's a lot of value that for hitting ability, 64 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: because again it's shorter levers. He's got excellent plate coverage. 65 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: The thing that McGonagall has that we love to talk 66 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: about is is it's really hard to find kind of 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: the weakness a lot. Usually you see guys and if 68 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: they can hit for power, they're doing that by losing 69 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: a little bit of context still to do that. If 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: you guy is a baby able to really kind of 71 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: hit pitches in the zone, often there's a little bit 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: of aggressiveness with that. You know, maybe you chase a 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: little bit. McGonagall doesn't chase. He's among the best players 74 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: in the miners at not chasing pitches outside of the 75 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: strike zone. But it's not because he rests the bat 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: on his shoulder if it gets a pitch in the zone. 77 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: He's actually very aggressive at hitting it. And then you 78 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: look at it and say, okay, well what about the power. Well, no, 79 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: he has real premium power. He hits the ball extremely hard. 80 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: We watched a home run he hit against Harlan and 81 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: Susanna last year. I think it was one hundred and one, 82 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: you know, coming in, and it was like one hundred 83 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: and twelve going back out. He hit a four hundred 84 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: forty four hundred and fifty plus feet there's real power here, 85 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: but he does that while covering. There's not really a 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: lot of holes at the plate. There's not, literally, if 87 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: you're a pitcher, there's not something that you can do 88 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: consistently and get McGonagall out. And he also doesn't really 89 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: have a whole lot of platoon problems either. He's a 90 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: left handed hitter who handles lefties pretty well, handles right 91 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: he's even better. But you look at it and say, yeah, 92 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: I think that this is a guy who as a 93 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: hitter is pretty close to big League ready right now. Yes, 94 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: he may have a little bit of adjustment. Everyone does 95 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: when they hit the majors, but there's not a whole 96 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: lot for him to work on in the miners. As 97 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: a hitter. The question is going to be shortstop. He's 98 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: That's why Connor Griffin Reck's number one short He's a premium, 99 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: impactful shortstop. Defensively, McGonagall is someone who could maybe play shortstop, 100 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: but the arm's a little thin. The range is a 101 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: little short for short. Most scouts that we talk to 102 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: think that he's going to be an above average or 103 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: better defender at second But as we all know, there's 104 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: a second basement named labor Torres there for right now. 105 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: So we'll see where mcguy fits as a player on 106 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: this Tigers roster, you know, for opening day or a 107 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: little bit later, because he's got to kind of find 108 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: a defensive home. 109 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: Okay, I know, Connor Griffin. We can expect to see 110 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: in twenty six McGonagall. I think they've said twenty six 111 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: weather Hole possibly in twenty six, which is great. What 112 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: about I mean, by the way, I love Hayeshu's maid 113 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: Jesus Made. That's amazing name. By the way, I just 114 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: want to say that. 115 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 5: That's Walker Jenkins, Max Clark. 116 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: Some of these the next guys, right, are those guys 117 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 4: twenty six debuts more than likely or they maybe a 118 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: year or two away. 119 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: I would say everyone in that top group except for 120 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Made Made, is very much on the Jackson Surio plan. 121 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: Jackson Surio spent all of the year his eighteen cachagen 122 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: season in Class A, got to bump up to double 123 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: A for six games in Maday's case, he was in 124 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: a ball for all of his age eighteen season and 125 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: got to bump up to Biloxi for five games. He'll 126 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: go to Biloxi to start the year. Churio spent almost 127 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: the entirety of that age nineteen season a double A, 128 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: got a little taste of triple the end of the year, 129 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: and then was on the opening day roster of the 130 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: next year. I think Maddy's kind of on that path. Jenkins, 131 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna I would expect to see Jenkins. The Twins 132 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: are gonna need him there, you know, kind of it's 133 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: they But Jenkins is was in triple A at the 134 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: end of last year. Clark was in double A. But 135 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: at the same time, I think that both of those 136 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: guys you'll be later in the season, but you expect 137 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: both of those in twenty six Weatherholt, I would say 138 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: the Aeronauto trade kind of cleans clears the path for 139 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: him to be in the big leagues as soon as 140 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: opening day. Could be their third baseman, you know, or 141 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: you can also play second. Obvious, it's not gonna play short. 142 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: They got to go glover there with Mason win. But 143 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: then you look also on this list, the two top 144 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: pitchers on this list, Nolan McClain. You talked about that 145 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: the Mets need pitching, and I agree, they still need 146 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: more starting pitching. But Nolan McClain has shown okay, he's 147 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: written an ink into the front of that rotation. And 148 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: then Treya Savage, who's our other top pitcher in the 149 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: top ten, has obviously already pitched successfully in the postseason. 150 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: So those two guys are now firmly established in the 151 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: big leagues. Most of this top ten we would expect 152 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: to graduate over the next you know, twelve months. I 153 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: would say at this time next year we're talking Hayesu's 154 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: made is probably the most likely of that top ten group. 155 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: Who won't you know, to still be around, still be 156 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: prospect eligible. 157 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: Nobody likes a bloated cell phone bill. It can consume you, 158 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: it can take over, it can be very annoying. So 159 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: I know that twenty twenty five ended Crafts and that's 160 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: when you have your end of year sales, but there 161 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: actually is still one sale that is running until the 162 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: end of the month. 163 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: Midmobile. 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Because I mean, your Savage did 183 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: it in the biggest stage in the world in the playoffs, right, 184 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: McLean was in a pennant race, came up, didn't lose anything. 185 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: Psaio comes up, signs a big contract, he's locked in 186 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: with the Orioles. So shouldn't those guys because you know 187 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 4: they're going to be there for sure, shouldn't they be 188 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: like one, two, three? Is it more potential than it 189 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: is what we've already seen, because I mean, hell, if 190 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 4: I had to bet on one guy on this list 191 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: to be pretty good, I'd probably take you Savage whose tenth. 192 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: I will say, though, like, this is where with Connor Griffin, 193 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: this is where I want to I don't want to 194 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: go overboard. I don't want to put something unfair on 195 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: these guys. But when you look at the history. I 196 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: just did a study of this of all of our 197 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: top one hundred prospects in every Major leaguer who produced, 198 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: who was in the major league's debuted from nineteen ninety 199 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: to present, and the Connor Griffin's of the world, the 200 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: guys who ranked number one, number two, number three, Like 201 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: you can expect him. It will be a disappointment if 202 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: he's not like a ten year big league veteran starter, 203 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: you know, the twenty five thirty forty war player. Like 204 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: if you look at where Connor Griffin is right now, 205 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you that he's going to 206 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: be Bobby Wit junior, but it is that kind of 207 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: development path we're seeing. And let's say that, let's just 208 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: say that he's seventy five percent of Bobby Wit junior, right, 209 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: that would still be one of the better players in 210 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: the major leagues. I think with Kevin McGonagall, we're also 211 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: talking within that range. Yes, these are pitchers who have 212 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: already established themselves in the big leagues, but they're also pitchers, 213 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: and so I think that we just know that with 214 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: even great pitchers, you always have obviously a higher injury risk. 215 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: There. 216 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: We're always a little bit more hesitant about pushing a 217 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: pitcher too high because we the chances of a Connor 218 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: Griffin or Kevin McGonagall missing season and a half out 219 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: of their next six season is pretty unlikely. It's happened, 220 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: but it's pretty rare for position players. With pitchers, unfortunately, 221 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: it's you know, there's a there's a decent there's decent chance, 222 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: decent odds that at some point you may have a 223 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: serious injury that's going to cost you significant time. 224 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: You were talking about how the top four shortstops, the 225 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: top three are all cold weather kids. When I say 226 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: cold weather from high schools that played in the cold, 227 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: have you ever seen something like that? Obviously a guy 228 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: from the North. I live pretty much fifteen minutes from 229 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: where McGonagall went to high school. And is this something 230 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: that is normal, because, like you said, it's about like, oh, 231 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: it's about potential, and there's potential in there, and sometimes 232 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: cold weather kids don't get the same. 233 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: You know. 234 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: The warm weather guys are already like they're there, there 235 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: are their abilities there, and then the other guys kind 236 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: of like come on late. 237 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: So I think that is one way that we could 238 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: talk a lot of ways about how the base all 239 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: environment has changed for the worse, you know, over the 240 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: last twenty five years. But I think this is an 241 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: example of how it's changed for the better. Right, Connig Griffin, 242 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: the Mississippi kid that's still that used to be a 243 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 2: really scary demographic for that. Like you said, McGonagall and 244 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: Weatherhold are both guys who come from really cold weather. 245 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: That used to be that you were not going to 246 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: get enough playing time against quality competition to really develop, Right, 247 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: that was gonna be a problem nowadays. Kevin McGonagall, JJ Weatherhold, 248 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: weather Hold went to college. But even before then, these 249 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: guys are facing ninety five plus on the Showcase circuit 250 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: in the summer. They're facing guys from all around the 251 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: country in the summer, which means that instead of it 252 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: being something where the first time that Kevin McGonagall makes 253 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: his pro debut, he steps in, he's like, what is this. 254 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: I haven't seen any pitching like this before. He's seen 255 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 2: it now, and I think that that combined with I 256 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: would say also like kind of the improved instruction. We've 257 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: seen this with the Wisconsin kids. You know, we used 258 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: to never see any high school kids come out of Wisconsin, 259 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: and now we see a ton of them. It's because 260 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: I think that these areas you can really develop and 261 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: you can also then hit the Showcase circuit. You're not 262 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: just playing your high school competition during the spring. You're 263 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: facing the best players in the country during the summer, 264 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: and that both gives teams of a higher comfort level 265 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: with you, but it also gives those players an ability 266 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: to kind of develop at a faster pace because they 267 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: face top competition. 268 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: I saw Connor Griffin when he was a junior and 269 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: he reclass to being a senior. Obviously, the makeups off 270 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: the chart. But one thing that you hit on was 271 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: Mississippi kids. I worked for the Red Sox when they 272 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: had Blaze Jordan. I think its Blaze Jordan and he 273 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: was a number two second rounder for Red Sox, had 274 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: a lot of prospect status to him. And a scout 275 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: told me kids hitters from Mississippi never work out. So 276 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: is there fear there with the Connor Griffin And this 277 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: is a scout And I'm not saying scouts know everything, 278 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: but they're working on history. Is there a fear there? 279 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: And can Connor Griffin debunk those fears because of doing 280 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: one thing? Is there something he can do to debunk 281 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: that fear? 282 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: I always say that was a real It's funny like 283 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: even as late as last spring, I was hearing scouts 284 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: refer to like, well, looking at that short stop class, well, 285 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: they're better hitters than Connor Griffin was. Because Connor Griffin 286 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: was in high school, there were real hit tool concerns. 287 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 2: He had a little bit of an armbar. And then 288 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: he went off in that offseason and really worked on it, 289 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: and as soon as spring training it became pretty clear like, oh, 290 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: this is a better hitter than we thought he was. 291 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: You know, as much as I just talked about Kevin 292 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: McGonagall being the you know, the eight hit tool, Connor 293 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: Griffin is the guy who hit for a higher average 294 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: low A, high A, double A, and he had a 295 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: you know, hit well over three twenty last year. He 296 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: kind of answered a lot of those questions. There are 297 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: those concerns because especially I think a lot of it 298 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: comes down to the quality of competition you're seeing in 299 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: the spring, the difficulty of evaluating those players to come 300 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: out of high school. There are not a whole lot 301 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: of success stories out of that. But I do think 302 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: that Connor Griffin has already showed that the season he 303 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: had last year. It doesn't mean he's a big leaguer 304 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: a successful big leaguer already, obviously, it doesn't do that, 305 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: but he did show like he started off in low A, 306 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: and for a guy coming off of that background, even 307 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: as a first round pick, if he'd just spent the 308 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: first half season or even four months in low A 309 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: and then played his way to high at the end 310 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: of the season, that would have been a very successful season. 311 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: And instead he was the best player in that league, 312 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: so clearly the best player that they had to get 313 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: him out of there in just a couple of months. 314 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: They go to High A. He's now younger than anybody's 315 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: facing and he's the best player in that league by far, 316 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: and they have to get him out of there. And 317 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: then he's in Double A on a playoff team. Like 318 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: there was a great playoff series where it was Eerie 319 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: versus Altoona McGonagall versus Griffin, and Connor Griffin was the 320 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: best player on the field in that series as well. 321 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: Every level he went to, he just kept improving, kept 322 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: standing out, and I would say that everything else you 323 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 2: could feel pretty comfortable about. This is like what Bobby 324 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: what Junior had coming out of high school. You love 325 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: the tools. The question was how much was he gonna hit? 326 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: And then I remember that pandemic spring training that they had, 327 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: you know, that weird spring training in like June, and 328 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: they come to the realization, oh, Bobby Wit Junior is 329 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: probably the best player we have in big league camp 330 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: for this. We're not going to bring him out, you know, 331 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: we're not gonna break camp with them. But he can 332 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: hold his own. We saw that with Connor Griffin as 333 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: early as last spring training. That's the tricky part that 334 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: the Pirate's gonna have. Yes, they can hold him back. 335 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: He just got to double at the end of the year. 336 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: They could hold him back, send him back to double A, 337 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: send him a triple A to start the year. But 338 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: the reality of it is is they're not going to 339 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: have any shortstop and then you know, okay, you could 340 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: say O'Neil Cruz, but they're not really gonna have a 341 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: center fielder in camp who's better than him. So the 342 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: challenge is going to be do you send him out 343 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: even though if you just at the end of spring 344 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: training have an honest evaluation of it, he's going to 345 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: be their best defensive shortstop, and he's going to be 346 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: the most athletic shortstop, and he's probably gonna be the 347 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: best hitting short stuff they have in big league camp. 348 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: Okay, by the way, I just wanted to the Mississippi 349 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: thing because rafay Al Palmeiro, Will Clark, Jake Magnum, Mitch Morland. 350 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a whole college. 351 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: Yes, high school guys know that's the problem. 352 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I mean I'm just saying because. 353 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: They get Hunter Renfrow another one, there there's a lot of. 354 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: Fun throw There's been some pretty good, pretty good dudes 355 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: that have come out of that was just Mississippi State. 356 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: I didn't even look at Mississippi, So I mean there's 357 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: some there's some interesting. Anyways, move a little bit away 358 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: from that, who is the biggest riser on this list? 359 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: Who are the biggest people that kind of came out 360 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 4: of nowhere and shot up the ranks to surprise people. 361 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: I would say that we have Carter Jensen, number eleven 362 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: on this list, the Royals catcher, and that is the 363 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: example aj of what you were talking about. So this 364 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: is an example of a guy who did it and 365 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: then did it at the big league level. Jensen kind 366 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: of came into the year as a solid prospect, but 367 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: then really just kind of set the world a blaze 368 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: in the minor leagues as you know, as again as 369 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: a catcher who both show that he can handle the 370 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: job defensively but also could hit like a middle of 371 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: the order bat. Futures Game, he had one of the 372 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: best vps we've seen at the Futures Game in several years, 373 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: I would say, which really kind of, you know, my 374 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: job dropped a little bit watching that came up at 375 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: the end of the season for the Royals and really 376 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: kind of showed that he kind of could hold his own, 377 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: you know, didn't look out of place at the big 378 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: league level. I think that this is kind of a 379 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: perfect situation for him and the Royals. Obviously they still 380 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: have Salvador Perez, but I think that they were a 381 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: little bit more comfortable trading for me to that deal 382 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: to the Padres because they know that they've got someone 383 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: here who can kind of do that job share with 384 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: Perez as Perez gets older, where it kind of takes 385 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: on more and more of that role. Maybe kind of 386 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: even extends salve Perez's career a little bit because you 387 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: won't have to have as much wear and tear. Can really, 388 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: you know, Can is a solid catcher defensively, but most 389 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: catchers nowadays, you know, a lot of guys is like, okay, 390 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: you're going to bat him seventh, eighth or ninth. This 391 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: is a guy who could bat much more in the 392 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: middle of your lineup. Real power here and also showed 393 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: some hitting ability. And we just kept every time we 394 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: kept talking to people, he just kept moving them up, 395 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: kept moving them up, and we turned around it's like, oh, 396 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: he's the second best catcher on this list, only behind Basailloh. 397 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: Which teams, Which teams are the most represented, because there's 398 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: as a player, you'd look at it and you go, oh, 399 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: I remember playing against that guy. I didn't like that guy. 400 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: As a fan, you're like, you're like, uh, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago, No, no, no, okay, okay. 401 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: So which teams are the most represented on your one 402 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: hundred list top hundred list? 403 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: Speaking of Chicago, we do have a lot of the uh, well, 404 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: a lot of White Sox on this list this year 405 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: and then. But at the same time, I'm doing a 406 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: quick count right now to make sure I tell it right. 407 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: But the other one that's very well represented is we 408 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: were just talking about the Mets earlier. The Mets have 409 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: six players on this topdred one hundred. Now it's kind 410 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: of a little bit of a combo too. We've got 411 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: the McClain still qualifies, We've got Joonah Toong another. There's 412 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: definitely pitchers on this list for the Mets. But then 413 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: you got also a guy like Carson benje who could 414 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: by the end of the year, let's see, you know, 415 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: he got to triple A at the very end of 416 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: last year, but could be an impactful bat down the 417 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: road for them as well, so there's a nice blend there. 418 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: The Guardians have six players on the top one hundred 419 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: as well, and then like I said, the White Sox 420 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: also have six. So those are our leaders. We've had 421 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: years worth. One team has seven, eight nine. This year 422 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: is a little bit more spread around. Everyone has someone 423 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: on it other though, by the way, other than the Astros, 424 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: which in the Astros case they can point out, hey, 425 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: we had a guy, but then we didn't because they 426 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: traded Jacob Melton to the Rays in a recent deal. 427 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: But this is the graphic I was talking about earlier, 428 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: like when you look at a Connor Griffin, you look 429 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: at a Kevin McGonagall. Here, superstar is fifty plus war. 430 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: If you're a fifty plus war player for your career, 431 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: that's you're in Hall of Fame. Consideration that dark green 432 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: there is guys who are like long term a j was, 433 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: it fits in that star category if you've got ever 434 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: I was never ranked, so I know I'm gonna say 435 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: you are actually one of those greens you see on 436 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: that far right in the unranked You're one of those. 437 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: Honest to goodness, you are legitimately part of that contribution 438 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: because we miss on some We missed on Jose al Tuove, 439 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: he wasn't a top hundred. We missed on Paul Goldschman, 440 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: who moved really quickly. That's one we really regret. Robinson 441 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: Cano another guy there. There are our guys we miss on. 442 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: But the thing that stands out here is is if 443 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: you look at that top group there right, that dark 444 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: green goes over fifty percent if you are a top 445 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: three prospect on the Baseball America Top hundred, and this 446 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: goes back to nineteen ninety, this is everyone who ranked 447 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety. We stopped at twenty two because the 448 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: guys past that haven't enough time to build up their 449 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: careers yet. But if you look at that in the past, 450 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that Connor Griffin will or 451 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: Kevin McGonagall will or JJ weatherhol will, but if you 452 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: look at past history, top three prospects more often than 453 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: not end up being big league stars. That's why you 454 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: do not see these guys pretty much ever get traded, 455 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: is because teams, these are not the players you trade. 456 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: These are the players that stick around throughout the entirety 457 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: of their until they hit free agency or you extend them, 458 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: and then they end up being the the Joe Mowers. 459 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: They end up being the Bike Trouse, They end up 460 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: being the guys who you turn around and they have 461 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: fifteen plus years with one club because these are the guys, 462 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: these are the foundational players that you build teams around. 463 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 5: JJ. Over your shoulder, you have Leo de Vreise, I'm 464 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 5: gonna say that wrong. I know that's right, Devrees. I 465 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 5: think so jea freeze. 466 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: Anyways, it's over your shoulder, right, wasn't he number two 467 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 4: or three? Day he got traded? And now he's not 468 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 4: even in the top ten, So that trade really killed him. 469 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 4: So I don't know what you guys are doing at 470 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 4: Baseball America. 471 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: That's right. 472 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: He killed out the four. He got the four, so 473 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: he never got he never got high enough to be 474 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: that top three. But yes, heel close. 475 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: He is. 476 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: Actually he's dropped a little bit twelfth right now, so 477 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: which I would say is more of other guys moving 478 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: up than him down. But yeah, so they do, there are, 479 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: and that's rare though we've seen him get traded. Last 480 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: guy like that I can remember was Addison Russell being 481 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: traded from the A's to the Cubs back in ninety 482 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: and twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, right around there. It's rare. 483 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: Does happen every now and then. Paul Konerko, I would say, 484 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: another one that was traded while he was kind of 485 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: an elite process. But then we're going back to the nineties. 486 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: At this point, you're. 487 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 5: Going back to my time. 488 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: So take it easy, JJ, because I played against and 489 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 4: with Paul Knerko, So let's take it easy. 490 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: Now that he was a catcher. But then he saw 491 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: you and he's like, well, I can't catch anymore, you know, 492 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: gotta gotta gotta move to first base. 493 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 5: He was never a catcher. Let's let's establish that right now. 494 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 5: He was never going to be a catcher. He couldn't squat. 495 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 5: Couldn't squat god. 496 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: At all. 497 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 5: No, he can't squat. He can't like get down into 498 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 5: the squad. 499 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: He can't even attempt it. 500 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 5: He gets about like halfway. He could hit. 501 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: He can't go any lows, no flexibility, no wow. 502 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 5: And they were like, you're not a catcher. 503 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I'll go play first base, hit four 504 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: hundred homers and you. 505 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 5: Have a nice career. 506 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 507 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 5: Maybe that's Ethan Sallas. Since where's he is he on 508 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 5: the list, He's on the. 509 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: List, but he did move down, we still got to 510 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: see him hit. You gotta hit, you gotta hit, even 511 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: as a catcher, you gotta. 512 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: Hit a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. 513 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: Well, JJ, good stuff. I want to just do one 514 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: more plug here. Actually we'll let you take up the 515 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: whole camp because we're a little blurry. So why don't 516 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: you just tell everyone where they can find it, the 517 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: whole deal, how it's put together, because obviously we're not 518 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: giving everyone the whole Top one hundred. 519 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 5: There's a way to do that. 520 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: But baseball america dot com check it out. 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