Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2: Hi everyone walk on The Mother Knows Death. Let's get
Speaker 2: into this week's six shocking stories.
Speaker 1: All right, So our first one's out of South Africa.
Speaker 1: I would advise anybody that's eating right now to either
Speaker 1: pause and listen to this later or just go into
Speaker 1: it a little hesitant. So this woman went to this
Speaker 1: local shop. She bought a loaf of whole wheat bread.
Speaker 1: So she said, she ate about half of it. Everything
Speaker 1: seemed fine. That one morning she went to go take
Speaker 1: it out to make some toast and noticed, you know,
Speaker 1: something was really unusual about it. Yeah, and when she
Speaker 1: further examined the slices of bread, she saw full cross
Speaker 1: sections of a rat that was in bed in the bread.
Speaker 1: So this rat was baked into the bread, the full
Speaker 1: body of the rat. So when you're looking at the loaf,
Speaker 1: you just see, you know, it was sliced with an
Speaker 1: industrial slicer, so you just see it's like organs, slice
Speaker 1: perfectly in half, and its hair baked into the top
Speaker 1: of the loaf. And to think that she ate most
Speaker 1: of that loaf of bread and didn't see that for
Speaker 1: a while it is so disgusting. It is.
Speaker 2: It really is like when I look at it, it
Speaker 2: just looks like work like it that's exactly what we
Speaker 2: would do with anything. Is just like it looks like
Speaker 2: when you put a piece of colon through the processor
Speaker 2: and you do histology on it and make microscope slides.
Speaker 2: It's like kind of the same theory. It's just so
Speaker 2: disturbing looking. You could see all of the anatomy slices
Speaker 2: of the GI system. In one slice, you see hair,
Speaker 2: in one slice, you could see bone. It's so gross, Like,
Speaker 2: it's seriously as gross.
Speaker 1: I was eating breakfast while I was writing notes for
Speaker 1: this episode and had to stop for a minute because
Speaker 1: the pictures are so Yes, there are pictures, and they
Speaker 1: are so disgusting. She said. She sent the pictures to
Speaker 1: her friend and was like, what the fuck, and they
Speaker 1: were like, that's obviously a rat. She was totally in
Speaker 1: denial about it because she just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: There's absolutely no doubt that that's what it is. It
Speaker 2: can't be like, oh, maybe it was I don't know,
Speaker 2: some burnt thing from the machine or something like. No,
Speaker 2: it's like a full on anatomy lesson.
Speaker 1: It's so disturbing. Not only that the top of it
Speaker 1: is you know, I imagine this loaf pan and batter,
Speaker 1: and how this rat is just laying perfectly in the
Speaker 1: batter on the top gets baked, and its hair like
Speaker 1: it's fur, is just on the top of the loaf.
Speaker 1: It is so disgusting. What a terrible life for the rat.
Speaker 1: So she went to the store where she bought it
Speaker 1: from a complaint and they're like, this isn't our problem.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to contact the manufacturer of the bread,
Speaker 1: which was Pepsi Co. Weirdly enough, I guess they owned
Speaker 1: whatever brand made this bread. So you know, they said
Speaker 1: they were aware of it, it was an isolated incident
Speaker 1: and they were doing an investigation. Can you imagine, you
Speaker 1: know those calls you get from Wegman sometimes saying there's
Speaker 1: a recall and something you bought. Can you imagine finding
Speaker 1: out that your recall was because rat was baked in
Speaker 1: your batch of bread, and you already.
Speaker 2: I love that The company said that the bread did
Speaker 2: not quote meet their stringent standards.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, you think. I don't think that
Speaker 1: has anything to do with standards. I would just hope
Speaker 1: you don't bake rodents or your facility is clean. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's so gross, like the wet hair and everything.
Speaker 1: Then did you see this story later in the article
Speaker 1: about the guy who got a wrap from a local bakery.
Speaker 1: I think it was in Australia and as he was
Speaker 1: biting into it, he noticed something was really chewy, and
Speaker 1: then he opened it up and the dead rat was
Speaker 1: also in the rap.
Speaker 2: I think that that might be one of these two
Speaker 2: situations could be what finally causes me to lose weight
Speaker 2: and maintain a good weight at all times.
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't be able to eat the same it
Speaker 1: just or at least out ever. No, I mean that
Speaker 1: guy in that case said that he hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to fully enjoy a meal since I would imagine you
Speaker 1: don't eat anything unless you could see all the parts
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Well, this next story too is similar, right, Yeah, So
Speaker 2: this one's from twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: But this couple in Indianapolis. They had gone to Little
Speaker 1: Caesars and picked up a pizza. So they're driving away
Speaker 1: and the girlfriend opens the box of pizza and is
Speaker 1: looking at it and notice these little like black specks
Speaker 1: on the pizza. And as she lifts up the bottom
Speaker 1: of the crust, she realized that mouse shit is baked
Speaker 1: into the pizza. I don't know how she noticed that,
Speaker 1: because when you look at the slice of it, it's
Speaker 1: like all at the bottom and it's definitely mouse poop,
Speaker 1: Like there's no doubt, Oh that's what it is. It
Speaker 1: looks like little black seeds embedded in the bottom of
Speaker 1: the cross. But when do you ever look at the
Speaker 1: bottom them of the pizza. Maybe some of it was
Speaker 1: in the top of the crust and then she just
Speaker 1: flipped it upon further inspection. I think if I just
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of it, I would have my
Speaker 1: mind just had to be like, oh, that must be
Speaker 1: burnt little bits from the other's right, I would think
Speaker 1: too exactly, it was one hundred percent mouthshit. There's nothing
Speaker 1: else that could be, especially when you look at the
Speaker 1: pictures of this. So they go back to the Little
Speaker 1: Caesars and they're like, what the fuck, where did all
Speaker 1: this mouse poop come from? They had no idea where
Speaker 1: it came from, so they called the police in the
Speaker 1: health department. They immediately got shut down and got their
Speaker 1: license suspended, and the health department was saying that they
Speaker 1: had seven violations the year before for wrote it related activities.
Speaker 1: So this is so gross.
Speaker 2: I just heard that they closed down a five blow
Speaker 2: in Center City because there were rats that were eating
Speaker 2: through the bags of food there or something, that they
Speaker 2: closed it down for a couple of days. But when
Speaker 2: I just went by it the other day, it looked
Speaker 2: like it was open.
Speaker 1: This little Caesars did reopen afterwards, and I looked up.
Speaker 1: I looked it up and it's still open today, so
Speaker 1: it was only a temporary suspension of the license. But oh,
Speaker 1: it's so gross. It is gross, And I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I've said this on another episode, like it's just
Speaker 1: ignorant to not understand that a majority of restaurants are
Speaker 1: going to have issues with attracting mice and stuff. But
Speaker 1: it's about how the restaurant is taking care of it
Speaker 1: and being proactive about cleaning. And you definitely can't bake
Speaker 1: a rat into a loaf of bread. You certainly can't
Speaker 1: make an entire pizza and have that much mouthshit baked
Speaker 1: in the one pie. So imagine every other pizza that
Speaker 1: got picked up that day. Could you imagine how many
Speaker 1: things happened that we never that actually get caught, like
Speaker 1: like a mouse or a rat getting baked into bread.
Speaker 2: But the company, like, you know, the people that are
Speaker 2: actually checking the stuff see it and they're like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, thank god that didn't get out to the public.
Speaker 2: Like there's probably people that work in factories that are like,
Speaker 2: you have no idea you know what we catch because
Speaker 2: they're there's like QA and QC stuff, like they're supposed
Speaker 2: to be checking to make sure things like that don't happen.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure things get caught all the time, you know.
Speaker 1: And not everything makes the news. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: things of this level are happening every day in parts
Speaker 1: of the world, you know, but not everything's making the
Speaker 1: news like this. The rat thing, I could see. I
Speaker 1: could live in a world where I understand that mouse
Speaker 1: poop is probably regularly entering food and people aren't aware
Speaker 1: of it, but the rat thing is totally unacceptable. I
Speaker 1: just can't imagine that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to ever have anything foreign in my food.
Speaker 2: I've heard of like band aids, like, uh, it's so
Speaker 2: it's so nasty, you know.
Speaker 1: It's really common to pop up in foods is parts
Speaker 1: of gloves because when people are wearing gloves to do
Speaker 1: food preps. Sometimes they'll like cut themselves or cut pieces
Speaker 1: of the glove or something, and those as often end
Speaker 1: up in dips or like dressings stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: that's pretty discuss right. This is gross, all right. This
Speaker 1: twenty nine year old male presented to the emergency room
Speaker 1: with stomach pain, rapid heartbeat, rapid breathing. So upon exam,
Speaker 1: doctors discovered something incredibly unusual. And I'm sure if you've
Speaker 1: been listening to us for a while, you could probably
Speaker 1: see where this one's going.
Speaker 2: So apparently this guy was high on GHB, which is
Speaker 2: gamma hydroxy butchuric acid, which is also known as the
Speaker 2: date rape drug. So it also it gives you a
Speaker 2: euphoric feeling but also amnesia, so you don't remember if
Speaker 2: you're having sex or doing anything that night. And him
Speaker 2: and his boyfriend apparently were taking this drug and high,
Speaker 2: and they decided that it would be a good idea
Speaker 2: to stick fifteen hard boiled eggs up his ass off
Speaker 2: no shell, no shell, They were out of the shell.
Speaker 1: So I do imagine because of how they moved, they
Speaker 1: probably went up pretty easy. So they just kept sticking
Speaker 1: them up there. But do they disintegrate up there, Like,
Speaker 1: how did they come out? No, they they didn't.
Speaker 2: What happened was they went up there and they caused
Speaker 2: a perforation. That's why he was having extreme abdominal pain.
Speaker 2: So they pushed them in to the point where the
Speaker 2: rectal wall ruptured and he was having poop inside of
Speaker 2: his rectum and colon leaking into his abdominal cavity. And
Speaker 2: they were concerned that he was having sepsis actually or
Speaker 2: a systemic infection because of the poop leaking inside of
Speaker 2: his body, so they had to do emergency surgery. They
Speaker 2: said that they took the eggs out, they cleaned it
Speaker 2: up as best as they could, because think like it's
Speaker 2: like legit probably like an egg salad at that point.
Speaker 2: Like you're like if you push one a soft boiled egg, right,
Speaker 2: and you're just shoving them up a hole, like eventually
Speaker 2: they're all going to start breaking and like that real
Speaker 2: interesting for the doctors to see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then after this he got admitted to the ICU.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine explaining to people in your life, like, oh,
Speaker 1: why were you in the ICU because they stuffed all
Speaker 1: these eggs up my butt?
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, So I don't know, like if they were
Speaker 2: just doing it, because it's sometimes it's like an ecstasy
Speaker 2: type thing.
Speaker 1: Like maybe I don't know what they were thinking.
Speaker 2: I'm also I mean, he seemed to know that this
Speaker 2: happened to him, because like we were saying that he
Speaker 2: was high on this drug that could cause amnesia.
Speaker 1: You're like, are you sure you like agreed to this?
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't seem like a great idea, but
Speaker 1: I guess when you're on drugs, you're not making the
Speaker 1: best decisions. Yeah, when you just said it was a
Speaker 1: date rape drug, I'm like, so he willingly took this
Speaker 1: or what happened here? Because I mean, people do. I
Speaker 1: don't know why why you would want to do it
Speaker 1: and not remember it, but maybe I don't know, Like
Speaker 1: people like all sorts of things like romance bookstores and
Speaker 1: weird shit. By the way, the people are agreeing with
Speaker 1: you so far, which I can't believe. Really wait wait,
Speaker 1: I need I need to hear about this. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: have a couple of comments so far, people saying that
Speaker 1: they do think it is weird and they would never
Speaker 1: do something like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you, and and like people aren't
Speaker 2: just agreeing with me to agree with me because they
Speaker 2: love disagreeing with me. Actually, so come on, like, it's
Speaker 2: it's true. It's like, it's really like the weirdest shit.
Speaker 1: I'm though, I get okay, most people I know read them,
Speaker 1: so I find it surprising that most people are agreeing
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Speaker 1: story is about this twenty two year old guy. He
Speaker 1: went to the emergency room with abdominal pain and rectal bleeding.
Speaker 1: But this is not like our friend from the story before,
Speaker 1: where we know, you know, people are staking things up
Speaker 1: their butt and causing these problems themselves. So he had
Speaker 1: said earlier in the day he had similar pain, but
Speaker 1: he had a non bloody stool, but upon exam everything
Speaker 1: looked normal. So what's the deal with this?
Speaker 2: So if you ever go to the emergency room and
Speaker 2: you're saying that you're bleeding when you're going to the bathroom,
Speaker 2: bright red blood, that's like very alarming.
Speaker 1: It's called him at.
Speaker 2: A cheesia, and it's it's something of concern because you
Speaker 2: could have a bleeding hemorrhoids, or you could have a
Speaker 2: tumor or something, so it's it. Or you could have,
Speaker 2: especially in a younger person, like ulter rat of collators
Speaker 2: or something like that. So they just want to make
Speaker 2: sure that not only do you not have this underlying
Speaker 2: disease process, but are you are you anemic? Are you
Speaker 2: losing too much blood?
Speaker 1: So they do they take blood work, and they do
Speaker 1: they look for all sorts of different things, but they
Speaker 1: look for anemia, bleeding, infection, all of that, and all
Speaker 1: of his blood work was fine. So what was it then?
Speaker 2: What caused him to have this episode of like shitting
Speaker 2: bright red blood and abdominal pain and.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So they say, well, and this is a thing that
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't understand with the emergency room
Speaker 2: is like they kind of even if you do have
Speaker 2: an underlying health thing, they kind of don't really care.
Speaker 2: They just want to make sure that you're stable and
Speaker 2: send you home because that's their job, just to make
Speaker 2: sure you're not going to die or become seriously ill.
Speaker 1: And so they were like, you see.
Speaker 2: Him, fine, now your blood works fine, So why don't
Speaker 2: you follow up tomorrow with a GI doctor. So the
Speaker 2: guy goes to a G doctor and he so happened
Speaker 2: to take a picture of the poop and shows the
Speaker 2: doctor this picture, which we actually have the picture of, right,
Speaker 2: And the doctor's like, a very you know, a very
Speaker 2: well in tuned GI doctor will always know, like.
Speaker 1: God, what did you eat? Tell me what you ate?
Speaker 2: Right, Like it's just like you know, they're they're used
Speaker 2: to this, right. So the guy says, well, before that happened,
Speaker 2: I ate in a whole, entire, extra large bag of Cheetos.
Speaker 2: Where were they flaming hot geat blaming hot cheetos? Right,
Speaker 2: So then the doctor was probably like, all right, bye,
Speaker 2: this is your problem. Right.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, and that turns out what happens so
Speaker 1: not only so you're having not only just eating a
Speaker 1: large volume of stuff. But it's also spicy, so that
Speaker 1: could account for the abdominal pain. But it has maltodextrine
Speaker 1: in it, which is like you know, we always say
Speaker 1: that if you have a lot of that artificial sugar
Speaker 1: stuff like that, that it could give you diarrhea, Like
Speaker 1: if you eat a lot of sugar free candies or
Speaker 1: anything like that, you really shouldn't eat anything in a
Speaker 1: large volume, even the sugar free, the coffee syrup, any
Speaker 1: of it. It seriously acts like a laxative and it
Speaker 1: gives you like these extreme abdominal pant cramps, and it
Speaker 1: could give you diarrhea too. So that powder that they
Speaker 1: put on top of the cheetos to give it that
Speaker 1: fiery flavor has that stuff in it, so if you
Speaker 1: have a handful, like you're supposed to a normal serving size,
Speaker 1: you might not notice it. It also has MSG in it,
Speaker 1: which can also cause those types of symptoms and people
Speaker 1: if they're sensitive to it. But when you eat twenty
Speaker 1: servings of it at one time, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: So that's what gave them the diarrhea, and then the
Speaker 1: also eating that much of it gave the food coloring
Speaker 1: caused it to look like it was blood. But this
Speaker 1: this gi doctor that is just used to seeing bloody
Speaker 1: stool for a living, was like, yeah, that looks a
Speaker 1: little bit too orange to me, Like you this is
Speaker 1: food dye, right, Yeah, it's kind of.
Speaker 2: It's kind of it's kind of hilarious, honestly, Like it's
Speaker 2: good that it ended up being nothing. And this happens.
Speaker 2: This has happened to me where I went to the
Speaker 2: bathroom and ped and my peat is red right, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, why do I have hematoria?
Speaker 1: I'm bleed.
Speaker 2: I'm bleeding from you know, from my bladder or something.
Speaker 2: And then I sit there and think about it for
Speaker 2: a second and then I'm like, okay, yeah, I had
Speaker 2: beach yesterday or something like. Because beats caused your urine
Speaker 2: to turn red. It's it's called beataturia. Actually, it's like
Speaker 2: a thing. But there's that moment where it scares the
Speaker 2: shit out of you when you look in your toilet
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my god, I just peede blood,
Speaker 2: Like something terrible is wrong right now. So this, the
Speaker 2: food coloring thing is is that's why when you get
Speaker 2: a colonoscopy and stuff they tell you not to have,
Speaker 2: like jello or anything, because the red die in the
Speaker 2: jello could make it look like blood when it's not
Speaker 2: really blood. You know.
Speaker 1: I think this happens a lot. I don't think people
Speaker 1: are used to what food dye I could do. I
Speaker 1: remember one year I made a Star Wars cake for
Speaker 1: one of my friends that had a lot of black
Speaker 1: food dye in it, and a couple of days later,
Speaker 1: my friend's girlfriend was like, oh my god, my brother
Speaker 1: was freaking out because his shit was black and he
Speaker 1: didn't know what happened. And then we realized the next
Speaker 1: day it was from the cake. It hasn't happened to
Speaker 1: all of us, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: But that's the worst too, because you don't really think
Speaker 2: about it. It's I mean, this guy got diarrhea, you know,
Speaker 2: not too long after. I mean obviously it had to
Speaker 2: travel through his whole gi track, and sometimes you just
Speaker 2: forget about it, you know. And that happened to Lilian once.
Speaker 2: I made green cupcakes for her at school because her
Speaker 2: birthdays on Saint Patrick's Day. They I put like a
Speaker 2: whole container of green in to make them like extra green,
Speaker 2: and you know, the kids Lilian came home and.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh my got my poops green.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, whatever, and I look at it
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh shit, that's like really green.
Speaker 2: It's like like Plato green poop, you know. But what
Speaker 2: I was talking to one of the moms later who
Speaker 2: didn't realize that her kid had one of these cupcakes
Speaker 2: at school during the day, you know, and she was
Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, I was so scared. I
Speaker 2: called the doctor. I felt so bad.
Speaker 1: And then and then they were like, oh, it's probably
Speaker 1: some kind of food dye, and then they realized that.
Speaker 1: But I thought I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: Like imagine not even knowing that your kid ate something
Speaker 2: like that and just being like, why is there poop
Speaker 2: this color?
Speaker 1: I mean, this just happened to me recently because one
Speaker 1: of my favorite cereals ever is like Captain crunched the
Speaker 1: all berries one. So of course she's like, goes so terrible,
Speaker 1: like a total cobo, and I ate the entire box
Speaker 1: of like three days and we were away, I'm like,
Speaker 1: why is my poop such a weird color? I realized
Speaker 1: it was because I ate like this whole box of
Speaker 1: like red and blue weird colored cereal. Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: you know what though your poop color, it's it can
Speaker 1: tell you a lot about the state of your health.
Speaker 1: So it's something like that you should look at and
Speaker 1: definitely you should be alarmed if you see that you
Speaker 1: have blood, if you had blood or you thought you
Speaker 1: had blood. Like he did the right thing, especially with
Speaker 1: the pain and everything like it just like luckily it
Speaker 1: turned out to be nothing. I just think it's it's funny.
Speaker 1: Like at the er, they're like, I don't know, you
Speaker 1: seem fine to me, Like do you want to tell
Speaker 1: the story about pop pop having kind of the office? Oh,
Speaker 1: this is actually all right, this is a good story.
Speaker 1: So all all good stories involved my dad. So he's,
Speaker 1: like we were talking about in a previous episode, how
Speaker 1: he's kind of like anti going to the hospital and
Speaker 1: getting something checked out if he's having an issue. And
Speaker 1: so one day my mom my mom comes home and
Speaker 1: he had come home from work early.
Speaker 2: This is a man that, like, I don't know that
Speaker 2: he's ever called out a day sick in his life.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's a Mecanic. He was a macan. He
Speaker 1: worked twelve hour days, it's six days a week, and
Speaker 1: my mom comes home and he's like, he's like, I
Speaker 1: came home from work, I took a half day, I'm tired,
Speaker 1: and my mom like so automatically all of us are like,
Speaker 1: he's dying because something is terribly wrong, right.
Speaker 2: So then she's like, are you sure you're okay? He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just feel really tired, okay. So he goes to
Speaker 2: the bathroom and he's like, I don't know, I kind
Speaker 2: of want you to look at my poop because it's
Speaker 2: it's a little red. I know that we had these
Speaker 2: Chinese spare ribs last night and it's probably from that,
Speaker 2: but just take a look at it, right.
Speaker 1: So my mom's like, okay.
Speaker 2: So she goes in the bathroom and she says she
Speaker 2: looks in the toilet and it looks like someone poured
Speaker 2: an entire bucket of blood in the toilet, like it
Speaker 2: was filled up with like pure thick blood. So she
Speaker 2: takes them to the hospital. He didn't want to go.
Speaker 2: She takes him to the hospital. He's like severely anemic.
Speaker 2: His hemoglobin was five for a due it's supposed to
Speaker 2: be like twelve, okay, right, or thirteen, like a higher number,
Speaker 2: definitely higher. Number five is borderline, like you need a transfusion.
Speaker 2: It's that low, right, So that explains why he was
Speaker 2: so tired, and he or he had like hemorrhoids that
Speaker 2: were bleeding or something, or diverticulators or so, I don't
Speaker 2: know what he had.
Speaker 1: I think he had both. Whatever.
Speaker 2: He didn't even need to really get treatment on it,
Speaker 2: like it stopped and that was the end of it
Speaker 2: kind of thing. But he just was almost blew that off,
Speaker 2: which is amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, total opposite of this story. At least the person
Speaker 1: in the story was proactive and got it checked out
Speaker 1: and it did end up being food, whereas pop Up's
Speaker 1: like it must have been the ribs. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to say. We're just like, yeah, like that would
Speaker 1: that would make it look like that dad? So, oh
Speaker 1: my god. All right, This next story is about this
Speaker 1: guy who was born with this rare tumor in his eyeball.
Speaker 1: So as he got older, the tumor continued to grow
Speaker 1: and says and even weirder, it started to grow some hairs.
Speaker 2: So this is a really rare I've never seen one
Speaker 2: of these in real life, but the pictures of them
Speaker 2: are so disturbing because it looks like this little soft
Speaker 2: yellow nodule that's right on someone's eyeball and like Marie
Speaker 2: A said, it could grow hair. So they're benign tumors.
Speaker 2: They're called limbal dermoid tumors. They're benign, which means they're
Speaker 2: not cancer But like we talk about all the time,
Speaker 2: just because it's not cancerous doesn't mean that it's not
Speaker 2: going to be hell for you. I mean, imagine having
Speaker 2: a nodule on your eyeball and every time you blink
Speaker 2: it like rubbing your eyelid.
Speaker 1: And stuff like that. So especially if there was like
Speaker 1: little hairs on the end of it. Plus cosmetically it
Speaker 1: looks a little awkward and they could actually change the
Speaker 1: shape of your eyeball and give you an astigmatism and
Speaker 1: all these things. So they they obviously it's your eye
Speaker 1: and they don't want to mess around with it unless
Speaker 1: they have to. But they'll do surgery on it if
Speaker 1: it gets that bad.
Speaker 2: But it's it's rare at least, it's just really the
Speaker 2: picture of it's just kind of awkward looking, you know,
Speaker 2: I just imagine it's so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I know, eye things are the worst. Really, do you
Speaker 1: just trim the little hairs? But you're like coming out
Speaker 1: of this center of the eyeball, but.
Speaker 2: You're born with this mass. You know, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like a cystic tumor, So I suppose you're used to it.
Speaker 2: If it's there, you know, it's I don't know how,
Speaker 2: but it would drive me absolutely crazy just to see it.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine seeing someone in real life that has
Speaker 2: one too. It's pretty interesting. But they're seen with in syndrome.
Speaker 2: So sometimes certain tumors could be seen if you have
Speaker 2: a certain kind of syndrome. So if that particular syndrome
Speaker 2: runs in your family, then these eye lesions can run
Speaker 2: in your family too, But never seen one in real life.
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap up with one of the most
Speaker 1: disturbing cases we've ever covered. So in two thousand and
Speaker 1: nine in Russia, all these parents have deceased children were
Speaker 1: visiting their graves only to realize the graves have been desecrated.
Speaker 1: For about two years, police couldn't figure out who was
Speaker 1: doing it until someone reported a man who was defacing
Speaker 1: the graves of deceased Muslim people. So they arrest this
Speaker 1: guy named Anatole Moskvin and when they went to search
Speaker 1: his apartment, they found something even more horrific than they
Speaker 1: could have even imagined. I can't even describe this case.
Speaker 1: This is the craziest true crime story probably of all
Speaker 1: time that an actual He didn't kill anybody this guy,
Speaker 1: so let's get that straight, but probably one of the
Speaker 1: most disturbing things. So when they went to his house,
Speaker 1: they found all of these dolls around the house that
Speaker 1: were posed in different outfits all around. But they weren't dolls.
Speaker 1: They were actually dead, mummified children that he had dug
Speaker 1: up out of the graves and was dressing them up
Speaker 1: and like playing house with these dolls. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: was like putting music boxes in them, so when they
Speaker 1: would be like touched or moved, they would make noise.
Speaker 1: And some of them even had little pieces of their
Speaker 1: grain stone with their name inside of their bodies. And
Speaker 1: it was just so disturbing. They're all over this guy's
Speaker 1: apartment and you must think, like, oh, nobody must have
Speaker 1: known he was doing this, But he lived with his parents,
Speaker 1: so people were seeing these.
Speaker 2: Dolls, yeah, and his parents. The whole entire thing is
Speaker 2: just so I mean, this guy's this guy's mentally ill,
Speaker 2: so you could see with him. The more disturbing part
Speaker 2: is that there were that his parents are not mentally ill,
Speaker 2: and they just said, like, oh, we knew about the dolls,
Speaker 2: but we just thought, you know, he like he sewed
Speaker 2: buttons in their eyes and would watch TV and cartoons
Speaker 2: with them and like took care of them as if
Speaker 2: they were live children. And the parents didn't think that
Speaker 2: that was weird that he had dolls. He was a
Speaker 2: grown man doing that. Well, they used to leave him
Speaker 2: for months at a time and go to their vacation house,
Speaker 2: So I mean, that's that. And then also the neighbors
Speaker 2: said that it smelled terrible in there, so obviously you
Speaker 2: have dead bodies in your house. Yeah, So I don't
Speaker 2: really know what to say. He had.
Speaker 1: He was very I don't know if Maria mentioned this,
Speaker 1: but he was a very intelligent man, very highly regarded scholar.
Speaker 1: He spoke what thirteen languages, thirteen languages. He had sixty
Speaker 1: thousand books in his possession on death and funerals, cremation,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So he knew when he removed these
Speaker 1: bodies from the grave, he knew how to naturally mummify them,
Speaker 1: or not even really natural, but he tried to accelerate
Speaker 1: it by putting them in a certain environment, and he
Speaker 1: was putting chemicals on them of baking soda and salt
Speaker 1: to dry out their skin, to make the environment so
Speaker 1: bacteria couldn't grow, to cause the mummification. He would store
Speaker 1: the bodies in a cold place until they were completely mummified,
Speaker 1: and then he would bring them back to his house
Speaker 1: once they were mummified. And oddly enough, of a mummified
Speaker 1: person doesn't may not smell. It would definitely not smell
Speaker 1: as bad as a person that was decomposing out in
Speaker 1: nature and had bacterial growth, because that would just smell worse.
Speaker 1: But there would definitely be a smell to it. So
Speaker 1: that's what people weren't they saying it smelled like an
Speaker 1: old basement or something. Yeah, it just smell like musty
Speaker 1: or like mustice. Yeah, it had like a weird smell
Speaker 1: that the neighbors would say.
Speaker 2: And he yeah, he would bring them back. And these
Speaker 2: dolls are so disturbing looking. Sometimes he put wax and
Speaker 2: makeup on their faces. He would dress them in like
Speaker 2: little girls clothes and and like hung out with them
Speaker 2: and talk to them, had relationships with them. But nothing
Speaker 2: out of all the investigation and stuff, it doesn't appear
Speaker 2: that there was anything sexual. There was no inappropriateness. Even
Speaker 2: one of the fathers of one of these victims said that,
Speaker 2: which was weird too, said that he almost wasn't even
Speaker 2: mad about it because he was treating his daughter better
Speaker 2: than he treated his daughter when she was alive.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that. I mean, as disturbing as his cases,
Speaker 1: he didn't kill any of them, so they originally could
Speaker 1: only charge him with desecrating the graves, and then he
Speaker 1: was eventually found unfit for trial, so he was put
Speaker 1: in a psychiatric hospital or facility to live there. And
Speaker 1: I guess the latest update was from twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: where he's been trying to get out and some of
Speaker 1: the doctors don't think there's any medical reasons to continue
Speaker 1: holding him. But obviously the parents of these children don't
Speaker 1: want him to ever get out. And I don't think
Speaker 1: somebody that did this to twenty nine girls is going
Speaker 1: to get out and he try to do something like
Speaker 1: this again. Hasn't he said that he's going to do
Speaker 1: it again. He so this is the thing, like he's schizophrenic.
Speaker 1: He's been diagnosed with schizophrenia, and he's having with paranoia
Speaker 1: and he's hallucinating and he's thinking that he really believes
Speaker 1: and he's having these delusions. He really believes that he's
Speaker 1: taking these children out of the grave to give them
Speaker 1: a better life. And he believes he's giving them a
Speaker 1: better life. And like he believes that that because he's schizophrenic. Right,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if once you treat a person
Speaker 1: with that, like he shouldn't in theory, be having those
Speaker 1: things anymore if his schizophrenia is being treated. But I
Speaker 1: don't really know how that works because this happens in
Speaker 1: so many cases all over the place. Well, another concerning
Speaker 1: component of this is that so he basically they think
Speaker 1: he's been a virgin his whole life. Right, So there
Speaker 1: was no sexual component to this. But this twenty five
Speaker 1: year old woman had been following his legal proceedings and
Speaker 1: the last we heard in twenty twenty two, he was
Speaker 1: possibly going to marry this woman. So let's say if
Speaker 1: he does get out or maybe they're in communic constant communication,
Speaker 1: what if she starts doing this too or helping him
Speaker 1: do it. There's always a woman that wants to marry
Speaker 1: some dude in jail. Yeah, Like it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: It's kind of outrageous how many stories we talk about
Speaker 1: all the time with these women that are just like
Speaker 1: I have to do an external example on this. There's
Speaker 1: just too many stories. I just wish I could.
Speaker 2: I wish we could interview someone that actually, like dated
Speaker 2: someone in jail, like a higher profile person or somebody
Speaker 2: that did something really crazy, and see, like what they
Speaker 2: were thinking when they were dating that person.
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know, curious. I want to be
Speaker 1: on someone's radar like that sounds like a good romance novel.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, But now you're an expert on
Speaker 1: the romance novels all of a sudden, All right, well,
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