WEBVTT - Empathizing with the Wildfire Victims in California (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Keep on riding what it says. We continue to broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>You are tuned in the Civic Cipher, Yes you are,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want you to stick around. We are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about the La wildfires. You know, for

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if this is your first time coming to the Conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>stories in a timely manner. But we felt like these

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<v Speaker 1>fires is something that's really important to discuss because we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen obviously the coverage of the fires, which has subsided

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<v Speaker 1>a bit now, but it's still very important for us

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. But we also recognize that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people think that it's just celebrity houses burning up,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people think it's coastal elites and

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<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing. It's and and there's real

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<v Speaker 1>people out there live human lives that are not celebrities,

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<v Speaker 1>are not millionaires, And we're going to share a story

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<v Speaker 1>of a black community, so stay tuned for that. But

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<v Speaker 1>that we wanted to get to as well, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>just getting to it now, so forgive me it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little late. But this from People magazine, Caitlin Clark had

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<v Speaker 1>a strong response to Megan Kelly's criticism about her recent

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<v Speaker 1>comments regarding white privilege in the WNBA. After twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>year old Clark, who was just named Times Athlete of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year, said in her interview with the magazine that

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<v Speaker 1>she's aware there's privilege as a white player in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly fifty four called Clark's statements condescending and fake in

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<v Speaker 1>a post on X A day later, Clark spoke at

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<v Speaker 1>a Year in Time event in New York City where

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<v Speaker 1>NBC Sports Maria Taylor asked her about Kelly's criticism and

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<v Speaker 1>how she handles the pressure of heavy topics coming down

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<v Speaker 1>on her shoulders. Quote. I feel like I've always had

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<v Speaker 1>a really good perspective on everything happened in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>Clark told Taylor. The Indiana FIEB Star went on to

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<v Speaker 1>reiterator comments made in the Time article, telling Taylor, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've earned every single thing that's happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me over the course of my career. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also grew up a fan of this league from a

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<v Speaker 1>very young age, noting that her favorite player growing up

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<v Speaker 1>was Minnesota Lynk's great Maya Moore, a black woman. Clark continued, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what this league is about, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only been around twenty five plus years, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's been so many amazing black women that

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<v Speaker 1>have been in this league, and continuing to uplift them

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<v Speaker 1>is very important and that's something I'm very aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>And Caitlin Clark, for that, I say, you are this

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<v Speaker 1>week's example of a better ally using those platforms to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that black women are lifted up. Especially at

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<v Speaker 1>a time when these huge corporations are turning their backs

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<v Speaker 1>on black women. That feels even more special, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>Important to point out before you move on the right,

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<v Speaker 2>and MAGA tried to make her an avatar for their

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<v Speaker 2>hate of black women. And when she made this statement,

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<v Speaker 2>they all turned their back on her, and they all

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<v Speaker 2>tried to eviscerate her on social media for standing up

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<v Speaker 2>for black women. So they showed their true colors. They

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<v Speaker 2>were not actually fans or supporters of her. They tried

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<v Speaker 2>to make her the avatar or the mascot for their

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<v Speaker 2>hate and when she did not share it with them,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those people immediately turned their back on her.

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<v Speaker 2>So shout out to Kaitlyn Clark for showing up when

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't easy to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, okay, yeah, So as far as these wildfires

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<v Speaker 1>in LA, We've talked about this before on the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Information Network. We've had a number of conversations with people

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<v Speaker 1>who are on the ground, you know, making a difference

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and for people that have taken a moment

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<v Speaker 1>to try to imagine what it would be like to

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<v Speaker 1>look around one day after waking up and everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you have ever had is burned up, and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>towel to dry off when you get out of the shower,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no toilet paper, there's no toilet, there's no house.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything you ever earned, everything you ever purchased, everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you held dear, every memory, every photo all gone. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>for people that understood what it's like to flee in

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<v Speaker 1>fear of your life, people that you know have not

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<v Speaker 1>been in that position. I've been in that position. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in a house fire before. I lost all my

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<v Speaker 1>baby pictures. That's what I have done, all my stuff

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a little model, child model and child actor.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't show you that it was true, the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>I did for HBO and early that can't show you

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<v Speaker 1>any of that because it's all burned up in the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the Internet, of course. But for people that took

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<v Speaker 1>a moment to try to empathize, to try to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what that might be like, we slute you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first step in, you know, trying and making

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. But there is the truth of the matter,

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<v Speaker 1>which is his country is as divided as it's ever been,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a number of people who are looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the fires in la as though this should be happening,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know, fire does not go to

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat's house only. Fire does not go to Republican's house

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<v Speaker 1>only you know what I mean. I think Mel Gibson

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<v Speaker 1>was at Mar al Lago when he found out that

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<v Speaker 1>his house was on fire. A lot of those wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>people whose mansions got burned up, as you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those people, maybe not all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but a good number of them are people that stood

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<v Speaker 1>to benefit from Trump's policies and were likely Trump voters,

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<v Speaker 1>and they lost everything. We're not even talking about money.

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<v Speaker 1>Just all your pictures. I grew up in a world

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<v Speaker 1>with no baby pictures. I have two, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>them I'm kind of blurry. That's it. And it's because

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<v Speaker 1>they We're at my aunt's house and everybody else has

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<v Speaker 1>so many pictures. They have videos. I don't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>They know what clothes they had. Wasn't that so cute?

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<v Speaker 1>They get to use it. I don't have any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know all the memories that I could

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<v Speaker 1>have had access to to keep over the years gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not a matter of money, that's a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of like a part of your person your personality, humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm trying to say, But I also want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the fact that there are black neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles that you may not know about. Black

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods in southern California you may not know about. Funnily enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from one of those neighborhoods. Well, I mean, my

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<v Speaker 1>family has roots in one of thoseighborhoods is called Lafayette Park.

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<v Speaker 1>For folks with short memories, Once upon a time black

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<v Speaker 1>people could not buy real estate next to white people

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<v Speaker 1>or in white communities. There was segregation. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>law of the land. And so there are these historical

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<v Speaker 1>black communities that still have largely black populations in southern

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<v Speaker 1>California and many places around the country. And there the

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<v Speaker 1>story that we're going to share today comes from one

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<v Speaker 1>of the communities that was affected by the fires, known

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<v Speaker 1>as Altadena, California. And we're going to share stories about

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<v Speaker 1>people who are not celebrities, people who are not millionaires,

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<v Speaker 1>people who lost everything, that lost their insurance and then

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<v Speaker 1>they have to rebuild everything from scratch with no support.

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<v Speaker 1>Our hope is that you know, by sharing this with you,

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<v Speaker 1>this combined with a larger forgive me for saying this

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<v Speaker 1>to partners that aren't you know, but there's a larger

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<v Speaker 1>effort from iHeartMedia. Thanks, you might be fueled to try

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<v Speaker 1>to make an impact in some meaningful way with respect

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<v Speaker 1>to some of these families. We're going to share from

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<v Speaker 1>Capital b News and this comes from the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the article, but you know, you can check out the

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<v Speaker 1>full article at capitoalbeanews dot com. But I'll start Less

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<v Speaker 1>than a week after two major fires tore through the

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<v Speaker 1>mountains and into the neighborhoods. The death toll stands at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. Two thirds of the lives lost were in Altadena,

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<v Speaker 1>which again is the primarily and historically black suburb in

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<v Speaker 1>southern California. In Altadena, where thousands of structures were destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Economic losses around across Los Angeles are estimated at over

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred bills billion dollars. But the wildfires are more

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<v Speaker 1>than a test of California's economy, firefighting capabilities, or policies.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a devastating reminder of how climate change and political

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<v Speaker 1>inaction compound vulnerability in black communities. As weather whiplash worsens,

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<v Speaker 1>the insurance market collapses, and the housing crisis deepens, the

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<v Speaker 1>state and nation is failing to meet the demands of

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<v Speaker 1>a changing planet. For Fred Daniels, The destruction of his

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<v Speaker 1>home and neighborhood has brought a profound sense of loss

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<v Speaker 1>that feels all too familiar. His grandmother, a New Orleans native,

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<v Speaker 1>was displaced by Hurricane Katrina in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 1>then Hurricane Harvey in twenty seventeen, and now this. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that we're able to rebuild, the US Navy veteran

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<v Speaker 1>told Capital Be. Although everybody has the sense of it like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's stay put, let's rebuild, there's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a cookie cutter approach to this. Since twenty twenty, major

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<v Speaker 1>insurers have abandoned Altadena, leaving hundreds of black fams families

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<v Speaker 1>like the Daniels without coverage, and like many other black

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<v Speaker 1>families in the area, they're still expected to pay their

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<v Speaker 1>mortgages while covering rent elsewhere. Three days after the fire,

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<v Speaker 1>a real estate broker contacted Daniels's mother with a deal

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand dollars rent for a three bedroom apartment in

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<v Speaker 1>neighboring Monrovia, double the average rent in the area. And

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<v Speaker 1>while we're here, that's a real thing that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been these huge rent spikes for airbnbs and you

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever, because there's so many families. Now, California already

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<v Speaker 1>had a housing crisis. There were not enough homes for

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<v Speaker 1>the people, and homes that they had were way too

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<v Speaker 1>expensive for normal people to afford anyway. And then now

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<v Speaker 1>with the fires and all these people displaced, there's now

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<v Speaker 1>more families that need shelter, and so the rent shot up.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, all right, so it's clears back to the article,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's clear half a dozen residents told Capital B

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<v Speaker 1>that those who lost homes and jobs in the fire

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<v Speaker 1>now face recovery with a fractured safety net and the

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<v Speaker 1>mental toll watching their community burn and during displacement and

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<v Speaker 1>living with the constant fear of more disaster has only

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<v Speaker 1>magnified the instability. So you know, again, for those that

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<v Speaker 1>may not have known that this crisis goes beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>coastal elites. This crisis goes beyond the movie stars and

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<v Speaker 1>the millionaires. This crisis affects people just like you. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again, with that political divide, it's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>point the finger and say, yeah, you know, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you get for being liberal. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the simplest way to reframe this is using kind of

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<v Speaker 1>that that golden rule the christ Golden rule, do unto

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<v Speaker 1>your name as you would have them do unto you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, kind of the step one for empathy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you're a human being with the capability of

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<v Speaker 1>being empathetic, imagine if it was you. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that at that point you might start to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>understand that there are people in need, the people that lose,

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<v Speaker 1>that've lost everything, and they didn't do anything to bring

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<v Speaker 1>this upon them, just like when they talked about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Harvey and any other natural disaster

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<v Speaker 1>that happens. These aren't people that signed up to go

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<v Speaker 1>into combat, and you know that's sometimes you win, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you lose. No, these are people that went to work

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<v Speaker 1>and when they came home the house was on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>These are people that got up evacuation order and then

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<v Speaker 1>they left and then the house got on fire. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just never thought that we would live in this

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<v Speaker 1>world with the Trump effect that you mentioned earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. The Trump effect, for those just coming to

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation is the Effectively, it's the effect that Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has had on the population to be more like him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know that he is the best example

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<v Speaker 1>of a human being. It's not our finest example of

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<v Speaker 1>what humanity can be.

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<v Speaker 2>I think might be our worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when we're talking about you know, we've mentioned doctor

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<v Speaker 1>King a lot in the last episode. In this episode, naturally,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about people who are good people. We

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<v Speaker 1>know them to be good people. Not perfect people, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to say that, but good people, right. They

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<v Speaker 1>stood for something. They you know, wanted the world to

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<v Speaker 1>be a better place, and they were not hacking their

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<v Speaker 1>way through other people's realities to achieve that. They were

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<v Speaker 1>not the type of people to grab people by their genitals.

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<v Speaker 1>They were not the type of people to suggest that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, immigrants are eating dogs and cats and all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of you know what I mean, like that, They're

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<v Speaker 1>not the type of people to get folks fired up

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<v Speaker 1>off of baseless claims, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor King is a great example, but you know there

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<v Speaker 1>are many others throughout history. If Doctor King is not

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<v Speaker 1>the flavor you savor because he wasn't a perfect man,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, a good luck finding a perfect person,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But the thing is is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Trump effect and our estimation is what has

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<v Speaker 1>happened to the population, especially the MAGA voters who have

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<v Speaker 1>moved more in terms of their humanity, not necessarily their politics,

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<v Speaker 1>but their humanity more in the direction of Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>which again I don't believe is the best example of humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's if the spirit of brotherhood, you know, the spirit

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<v Speaker 1>of the aspirational spirit that we are supposed to have

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of trying to build community with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We are social creatures. It is in our dmage. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a part of who we are to form bonds and

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<v Speaker 1>to build collectively. And the divisive nature of Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>of course, his politics and his policy, but his character

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<v Speaker 1>should have been an alarm. But we're past that, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But not only is it that he was elected, it's

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<v Speaker 1>that the human beings that have elected him are moving

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<v Speaker 1>toward that personality type. And for those of you that

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<v Speaker 1>might fall under that umbrella, or more likely for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you that know people that have fallen under that

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<v Speaker 1>umbrella and are moving away from what should be their

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<v Speaker 1>humanity more towards something that is more based in hatred, fear,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever divisiveness. I wanted to make sure that we took

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<v Speaker 1>a moment to again interject some humanity into this. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe I have to say this on the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are human beings just like you. These are

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<v Speaker 1>people that have hopes and dreams, and they have children,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want their children to be happy and do

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<v Speaker 1>better than them, and they want to accomplish goals, and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to laugh. It's not more complicated than that.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me to appeal to you, more than likely

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<v Speaker 1>I'm appealing to you so that you can appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>the people in your world on our behalf as a people,

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<v Speaker 1>on black people's behalf specifically, that's kind of the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of this show. But make no mistake, I know how

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<v Speaker 1>to find my brother, my sister, my sibling in any person.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to find that even my brother or

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<v Speaker 1>my sister or whatever is lost. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are losing the capacity to find their brother, to

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<v Speaker 1>find their sister, to see themselves across the aisle. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this was kind of necessary so that

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<v Speaker 1>we can kind of make that plea so that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't lose sight of the fact that, hey, we're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to help each other, not to kick each other when

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<v Speaker 1>we're down. And again, with the efforts that we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>not just from my heart but from a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other of our other partners, National Partners, Broadcast Partners, Radio

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific has done a fantastic job and know OKKFR and

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix has done a fantastic job of organizing. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's stations around the country that have been really

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<v Speaker 1>on top of this. We say that you can help

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<v Speaker 1>us too, and the first step is reminding yourself of

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<v Speaker 1>your humanity and their humanity, and then reminding the people

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<v Speaker 1>that are up right now they got their guy in

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<v Speaker 1>office and they're beating their chest and they're adopting that

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<v Speaker 1>bully type of mentality and bully type of behavior. To

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<v Speaker 1>remind them that that is not their natural state and

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<v Speaker 1>the only way they get there is based off of hatred, fear,

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<v Speaker 1>or both.

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<v Speaker 2>Well said, it's an interesting trick that they pulled off.

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<v Speaker 2>Billionaires can convince their followers that the millionaires are the elites.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even think of that. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>The millionaires, the people who they have one hundred times

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<v Speaker 2>the wealth of are the bad people are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who sit up on the hill and look down at

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<v Speaker 2>them while these billionaires stuff more money into their own

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<v Speaker 2>pockets and make life harder and more expensive for you

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<v Speaker 2>and yours. They convince you to be mad at the

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<v Speaker 2>people who have a little bit more than you while

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<v Speaker 2>they have a lot more than everyone. Again, there's not

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<v Speaker 2>much that I can say, you know, following that, because

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<v Speaker 2>you said everything that needed to be said. And the

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<v Speaker 2>lack of humanity, the lack of empathy, is the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>symptom of the Trump effect, the most pronounced, the most aggressive.

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<v Speaker 2>That people not caring about each other, only about themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you put people in that space where all

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<v Speaker 2>they can think about is what's best for just them,

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<v Speaker 2>and you interject a little bit of money into that conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>people will sell themselves, out, sell their souls, sell their families,

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<v Speaker 2>out sell anyone who they might have had any solidarity with.

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<v Speaker 2>Make people so desperate that you can simply offer them

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<v Speaker 2>enough money to give up everything else that means something

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<v Speaker 2>to them. So you see people of every ethnic background,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I see gay billionaires signing with the person

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<v Speaker 2>or siding with the person that hates gay people, Black

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<v Speaker 2>millionaires siding with the person that hates black people. Wealthy

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<v Speaker 2>immigrants siding with person that hates immigrants. Is going to

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<v Speaker 2>make laws to make sure their brothers, sisters, aunts, and

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<v Speaker 2>uncles and children are not welcomed here, but they think

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<v Speaker 2>they did it the right way, So go ahead, He'll

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<v Speaker 2>only get the bad ones.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Women to vote against their own their rights, poor people

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<v Speaker 2>to vote against other poor people, to keep poor people down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that includes you too, So what as long

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<v Speaker 2>as it includes you? You know, it's a really scary,

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<v Speaker 2>really dark, really cynical place to be. And I wish

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<v Speaker 2>we could be more hopeful and sound more celebratory and

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<v Speaker 2>more excited, but here we are. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know there were some organizations that you wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that are taking place in that are taking part

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<v Speaker 2>rather and helping people try to get back on their feet.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to leave you enough time to shout

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<v Speaker 2>them out.

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<v Speaker 1>So for folks that feel like they want to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>donate or learn more ways that you can support the

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<v Speaker 1>California Fire Foundation, you can find out more at c

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<v Speaker 1>A Firefoundation dot org. Again, California Fire Foundation, that's c

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<v Speaker 1>A Firefoundation dot org. The La Food Bank that's La

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<v Speaker 1>Foodbank dot org. That should be pretty self explanatory. Pasadena

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<v Speaker 1>Humane is Pasadena Humane dot org. And don't forget that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these people have pets, animals whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>so pet Colove is petcolove dot org. These have all

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<v Speaker 1>been vetted by iHeart. This is kind of uh a

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<v Speaker 1>lot a lot of folks have been putting time and

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<v Speaker 1>resources into making your support translate on the ground out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And so again c A Firefoundation dot org, la Foodbank

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<v Speaker 1>dot org, Pasadena Humane dot org and petcolove dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>Whichever you like, any or all of them, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's not forget who we are supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. With that said, we're gonna leave right here.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, i'd like to thank you for tuning into

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