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Speaker 1: Welcome. It's Verdict with Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you. Senator.

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Speaker 1: Nice to chat with you today. Many people are on

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Speaker 1: the road going to see family for Thanksgiving and listening

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Speaker 1: to this podcast, and I want to start with some

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Speaker 1: good news, and that is we are seeing a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on a lot of senators in DC on

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Speaker 1: this gay marriage vote. Before we get into the pressure

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Speaker 1: side of things, I want to go step backwards for

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Speaker 1: people that may have missed this important issue. Explain this

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Speaker 1: vote and explain the mike Le amendment that is so

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Speaker 1: important to protect religious institutions, schools, and private schools especially

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Speaker 1: from being persecuted by our government. That's why this amendment

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Speaker 1: for mike Le is so important. Well, Democrats in Congress

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Speaker 1: are pushing through a bill that embraces and codifies in

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Speaker 1: the federal law gay marriage. Twelve Republicans in the Senate

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Speaker 1: have supported that bill. Now, people, both Republicans and Democrats

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Speaker 1: have different views on gay marriage, and there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: that views on gay marriage have changed and changed a

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Speaker 1: lot with the American people over the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: The biggest danger of this vote is that it will

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Speaker 1: empower the Biden administration and in particular, the Biden irs

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Speaker 1: to target people of faith, and by that I mean churches,

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Speaker 1: I mean universities, I mean K through twelve schools, I

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Speaker 1: mean charities, any organizations that, because of their faith, believe

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Speaker 1: marriage is the union of one man and one woman

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Speaker 1: and do not embrace same sex marriage. And what it

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Speaker 1: will empower the biden Irs to do is to go

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Speaker 1: after those institutions and persecute them, to strip them of

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Speaker 1: the public. We've seen this happen. For example, the city

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Speaker 1: of Philadelphia did this to Catholic Charities because Catholic Charities

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, when it came to adoptions, would not facilitate

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Speaker 1: adoption to a same sex couple. The City of Philadelphia said,

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Speaker 1: Catholic Charities is out of the business of adoption. We

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Speaker 1: won't allow them to assist with adoption. Now, mind you,

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Speaker 1: there are lots of other adoption agencies. So if the

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Speaker 1: they could do so. They just couldn't conscript Catholic Charities

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Speaker 1: to doing so. In a way, they believed was contrary

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Speaker 1: to their faith that particular policy was challenged when all

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Speaker 1: the way to the Supreme Court was struck down. The

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Speaker 1: real world consequence of this bill before the Senate is

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Speaker 1: the Biden IRS will now have an excuse to target

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Speaker 1: I predicted Liberty University would be the very first target

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Speaker 1: of the Biden IRS to try to deny their five

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Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee from Utah is introduced an amendment that

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Speaker 1: is an iron clad amendment that prohibits the IRS and

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration from targeting organizations because of their views

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Speaker 1: on marriage. Now, what's the problem, Well, the Democrats have

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Speaker 1: put fake religious liberty protections into their bill, and particularly

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Speaker 1: they've said nothing in this bill will deny people their

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Speaker 1: it's a classic lawyer sleight of hand that leaves a

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Speaker 1: accept Mike Lee's amendment why have they refused to accept

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Speaker 1: Mike Lee's amendment because twelve Republicans are giving them the

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Speaker 1: Mike Lee has been pound Sand. On Monday, the Monday

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Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, we have a comeback vote Monday at five

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Speaker 1: thirty pm. It is a sixty vote threshold to move

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Speaker 1: not vote for cloture. We will not vote to move

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Speaker 1: this bill forward unless you adopt the Micly amendment, one

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Speaker 1: of two things will happen. Either number one, the Democrats

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Speaker 1: You need to be making sure they fill the pressure

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Speaker 1: more support this Micle Amendment, which is so vitally important

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Speaker 1: for this issue to protect religious liberty and so that

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Speaker 1: the government doesn't have the ability to come out in attack.

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Speaker 1: This is an important issue where we're winning right now.

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Speaker 1: I love this part of the podcast because we get

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Speaker 1: to encourage and inform you on what's really happening in Washington,

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Speaker 1: and this is one of those issues that you need

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Speaker 1: to get involved with. Ben. Let me explain also because

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Speaker 1: It's not hard to see where the puck is going

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Speaker 1: If we had a vote, i'd vote for it. Well,

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Speaker 1: in the Senate, just saying you'd vote for it when

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Speaker 1: it's tied up, say, is a fifty vote threshold with

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Speaker 1: That's what's called a show vote. Yeah, oh sure, I'm

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Speaker 1: for that. No, we don't get that. Okay, well, never mind,

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Speaker 1: I don't really care much. I'll let it go. The

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Speaker 1: As I said, one of the main Democrat sponsors was

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Speaker 1: the Democrats just aren't willing to accept this. Well, of

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Speaker 1: course they're not. They'd be idiots if they were, because

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Speaker 1: the Republicans started by saying we'll support you without it.

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Speaker 1: Why would the D's move. The only way they will

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Speaker 1: Make sure you reach out to these senators put pressure

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Speaker 1: I want to move to another issue, and my social

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Speaker 1: I've seen a long time, that China is operating police

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Speaker 1: spurred by safeguard defenders. It's a nonp an organization releasing

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Speaker 1: Ray was grilled about the Chinese efforts by Senator Rick

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Speaker 1: the fact that you were sleeping with a Chinese spy,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a problem for you. Sitting on the

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Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee, so we're going to remove you. That actually

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Speaker 1: would have made some sense if Nancy Pelosi had said

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Speaker 1: to ilhan Omar, listen, you keep making anti Semitic comments,

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Speaker 1: you keep repeating vicious anti Semitic tropes, We're not going

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Speaker 1: to put you on the Foreigner Affairs Committee. That would

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Speaker 1: have been a reasonable thing for Nancy Pelosi to do

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Speaker 1: in her own party, if she actually cared about not

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Speaker 1: being compromised to the Chinese Communist or standing up against

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Speaker 1: anti Semitism. She didn't do that. Instead, she went after

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Speaker 1: Republicans and engaged in partisan warfare. And I predicted then,

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Speaker 1: I said, the obvious tit for tat is when Republicans

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Speaker 1: take control, they're going to have to remove some of

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Speaker 1: these obvious low hanging fruit. But the problem is this

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Speaker 1: can only escalate. I don't think we should go down

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Speaker 1: this road at all. And what's bizarre, it's actually a

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Speaker 1: very interesting entree into the psyche of today's angry congressional

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Speaker 1: Democrat because at the time Pelosi removed Republicans from committee assignments,

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Speaker 1: they all knew Republicans were getting ready to take over.

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Speaker 1: So this was not a mystery. When I sent my tweet,

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Speaker 1: everyone agreed that Republicans were getting ready to take over.

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Speaker 1: In fact, most of us thought it was going to

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Speaker 1: be a much bigger majority than unfortunately we had. But

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Speaker 1: they all knew, as I said in my tweet a

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Speaker 1: year ago, the odds were ninety percent of greater than

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Speaker 1: Republicans were getting ready to take over. So they did

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Speaker 1: it anyway because they're just so angry burn it all down.

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Speaker 1: They didn't care about where the next escalation would go,

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Speaker 1: and I think that process is only going to continue.

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Speaker 1: You look at Eric Squalwell for example, and one of

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Speaker 1: the points that I think the media has missed Centator

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Speaker 1: is the fact that you know, if there's a reason

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Speaker 1: to have him not be on a committee, it's because

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Speaker 1: if he was in the private sector. Many had pointed out,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to get security clearance. It's not

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Speaker 1: because he's a Democrat's because he's been compromised. And that's

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Speaker 1: one of the facts that that some have brought up,

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Speaker 1: but so many have also overlooked, is if you want

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Speaker 1: to say that he shouldn't be on a committee, it's

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Speaker 1: from that standpoint it shouldn't be. As you just mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: Republicans attacking Democrats and it's escalating it. All right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna kick your guys off when we're in control and

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Speaker 1: vice versa. That's not how government's supposed to work well.

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Speaker 1: And I'll point out also so Swallwell and Shift are

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Speaker 1: both on the Intent Eligence Committee and even within Congress.

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Speaker 1: So the Intelligence Committee is special. It gets access to very,

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Speaker 1: very classified materials. There's a whole range of classification within

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Speaker 1: government materials, and you have the highest level of classification

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Speaker 1: that they keep incredibly tight constraints on, and typically the

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Speaker 1: Intel Committee gets access to that information and most other

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Speaker 1: members of Congress don't. So I'm not on the Intel Committee.

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Speaker 1: I'm on Foreign Relations and Judiciary, so I get access

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Speaker 1: to a lot of classified information. But there's stuff Intel

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Speaker 1: has that that I don't ordinarily have access to. And

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Speaker 1: if I wanted to, I could be on Intel. I

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Speaker 1: chose to be on Foreign Relations instead of Intel, which

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Speaker 1: it has a broader jurisdiction. Intel is more specialized, but

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Speaker 1: the Intel Committee in particular, you want to talk about,

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Speaker 1: our most valuable secrets are secrets that implicate American lives,

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Speaker 1: that potentially reveal American covert operatives, that literally can result

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Speaker 1: in CIA officers being murdered by our enemies if they

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Speaker 1: fall into the wrong hands. If there's one committee you

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Speaker 1: want to make sure the members of that committee are

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Speaker 1: not compromised in any way, are not going to share

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Speaker 1: secrets with our enemies. It's the Intel Committee. And it

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Speaker 1: is fairly stunning that both Swallowell and Schiff are on

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Speaker 1: the Intel Committee today in January, They're not going to

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Speaker 1: be yeah, which is obviously good news from that standpoint

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Speaker 1: of a safety and security measure. Want to remind you

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Speaker 1: don't forget share verdict with your family and friends. Hit

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Speaker 1: three days a week, and get involved, and make sure

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Speaker 1: you reach out to your senators, especially that list of

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Speaker 1: twelve that we talked about on the gay marriage bill

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Speaker 1: and the Micle Amendment, and make sure it's attached to

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Speaker 1: the bill, it's on up or down vote on its own.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you know what you're asking for. You can

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Speaker 1: go back, can listen to the extended version of that

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Speaker 1: conversation and a prior verdict, So grab that one. And

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Speaker 1: it's the last time we're gonna talk to you before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: So to all your happy Thanksgiving Center. I know you

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Speaker 1: want to say something to everybody listening about Thanksgiving as well. Well,

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone has a wonderful and blessed Thanksgiving. I

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoy some some turkey and stuffing and uh pie.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great Thanksgiving with our family. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be with with our extended family. Uh Caroline is

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Speaker 1: gonna make chocolate pies for everyone, and we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: It's a Cuban Thanksgiving, so we'll be sitting around around

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Speaker 1: the table after eating and we'll play some dominoes and

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Speaker 1: be yelling. There's there's an old joke if if if

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Speaker 1: Cubans can't yell, could they talk? And the answers no,

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Speaker 1: that's the only way Cubans can communicate with each other's screaming. Um.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I hope Thanksgiving as a time I'll

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Speaker 1: probably play my nephew some some one on one basketball,

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Speaker 1: which I've been playing him since he was about four

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Speaker 1: years old, and I've been beating him and beating him

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Speaker 1: and beating him. And he just graduated from Baylor, and

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Speaker 1: I will say it's a depressing mark. He's now oh

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Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three years old you know, big strapping

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Speaker 1: young guy who's the captain of his high school basketball team.

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Speaker 1: And it's gotten to the point I can can still

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Speaker 1: beat him, but he's now beating me, which is which

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Speaker 1: is always a sort of it's actually it's it's both

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Speaker 1: depressing and it's a moment of pride when you when

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Speaker 1: you see someone that you've been been teaching a game

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Speaker 1: and playing with since they were a tiny kid gaining skills.

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Speaker 1: So I'll do that. Hopefully I won't break an ankle,

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Speaker 1: but I hope everyone take time to be with your family.

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Speaker 1: Take time to hug your kids, take time to hug

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Speaker 1: your mom, hug your dad. Look, you don't you don't

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Speaker 1: know if everyone that's that's at the family table tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: if they'll be there for the next Thanksgiving. It's it's

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Speaker 1: one of the great reminders that every day we have

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Speaker 1: is a blessing and a gift from God. And and

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Speaker 1: and I would encourage everyone take time, take rest, but

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Speaker 1: but try to do also, particularly with your kids, try

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Speaker 1: to remember what Thanksgiving is about, about giving thanks to God,

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Speaker 1: giving thanks to the blessings you have. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things we try to do with our girls every Sunday,

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Speaker 1: as we drive to church in the car, we ask

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Speaker 1: each each of our girls, both of our girls, Um,

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Speaker 1: what are three things you're grateful for? And we try

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Speaker 1: to make that a weekly and Heidi and I go around, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would say take Thanksgiving to to at

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Speaker 1: least have a little time of reflection for all the

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Speaker 1: things we have to be thankful for. That that. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's easy to be so angry, it's easy to be frustrated.

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Speaker 1: There's lots to be angry about. There's lots to be

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Speaker 1: frustrated about, but there's also lots to say. Thank you God,

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Speaker 1: thank you for your incredible blessings. Thank you that we

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Speaker 1: live in the United States of America. Thank you that

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Speaker 1: we enjoy freedom. That thank you that that at least

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Speaker 1: right now, these Chinese police stations are not coming to

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Speaker 1: arrest me. That's that. That that that's something to be

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Speaker 1: very grateful for. Thank you that that we enjoy peace

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Speaker 1: and freedom and prosperity. That for almost the entirety of

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Speaker 1: human history has not existed on planet Earth. That there

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Speaker 1: is truly no better time to be alive than right

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Speaker 1: now with all of the challenges and look, everyone, we're

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Speaker 1: fighting against forces that are trying to tear down our country.

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Speaker 1: That's a fight worth fighting. You know what I'm thankful for.

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Speaker 1: I'm thankful that we get to fight that fight. I'm

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Speaker 1: thankful that we get to be in the arena and

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Speaker 1: fight for things that matter. And so love your kids,

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Speaker 1: love your family, rest, eat, eat till your stuffed, watch

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Speaker 1: some football, but spend time also giving thanks because we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot to be thankful for, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: I got one last question. It's an important one center fried,

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Speaker 1: smoked or oven baked. How's the turkey going to come

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Speaker 1: out of your house? Oven baked? Ah? There we go? Traditional?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, No, I've never done the I think

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Speaker 1: I've heard lots of good things about the fried thing,

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Speaker 1: but I've never been adventurous enough to try that. Smoked

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Speaker 1: is okay, But I liked oven make better. I just

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Speaker 1: think it tastes better. And my mom makes really good stuffing,

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Speaker 1: and and so we'll do we'll do that, which is fun.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you my sister Miriam years ago when

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Speaker 1: when when I was in college, my sister Miriam, who

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Speaker 1: was nine years older than I am, and she's the

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Speaker 1: sister who passed away from an overdose about a decade ago.

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Speaker 1: But she was living in Philadelphia, and so I was,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, nineteen twenty years old. So she's twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, and her son, Joey, my nephew, was a

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Speaker 1: little boy at the time, and I was going to

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Speaker 1: spend Thanksgiving with Miriam at her apartment. And Miriam I

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Speaker 1: loved her deeply. She was a good person, but she

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Speaker 1: made lots and lots of foolish decisions, and she was

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Speaker 1: a little scatter braid. So she was having her little

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Speaker 1: brother over for Thanksgiving dinner and she'd never done that before,

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Speaker 1: and so she put the turkey of the oven, but

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Speaker 1: she didn't quite understand how long you needed to cook

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Speaker 1: the turkey. So what I got here for Thanksgiving dinner,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't ready, and it wasn't ready, and it wasn't ready,

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Speaker 1: and it was finally ready at two in the morning.

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Speaker 1: So we had Thanksgiving dinner at two in the morning.

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Speaker 1: And Joey and I are just laughing at my sister.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was a wonderful and fun time. But

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Speaker 1: we're cracking up that, like, well done, Miriam at two

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Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving dinner, you know? Not Julia Childs but you

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Speaker 1: know what, it was family in there was love, so

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Speaker 1: that that's what you want and Thanksgiving. Hey, at least

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Speaker 1: she didn't leave the bag of the innards inside the cavity.

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Speaker 1: I've had that experience of going to someone's house. They

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Speaker 1: asked me to carve the turkey at our family friends.

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Speaker 1: My dad looked at me and I looked at him

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what do we do now? He

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Speaker 1: was like, we take it out and we don't say

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Speaker 1: a darn word about it. And that's what we did. Senator.

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to you in your family, for everybody listening,

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Speaker 1: Havy Thanksgiving to you guys as well. Don't forget on Friday,

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Speaker 1: we'll have a new episode for you, not a rerun,

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Speaker 1: So on your way home from seeing family and friends,

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Speaker 1: make sure you download Verdict. On Friday, we'll have a

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Speaker 1: new episode for you. Then, Happy Thanksgiving. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: back here on Friday morning.