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Speaker 1: the Freedom Caucus and every Conservative Senator once At this point,

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Speaker 1: confirmation hearings for Neil Gorsuch have begun. In other words,

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Speaker 1: the borking, the slander, the smearing, the high tech lynchings

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Speaker 1: part of the ancillary investigation, it also included a surveil

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Speaker 1: So the fact that a US citizen intercepted calls and

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Speaker 1: called Renaissance Capital. Great reminder today by the other day

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Speaker 1: by Peter Schweitzer. Anyway, they boast of deep ties to

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Speaker 1: the Russian intelligence community. The Clintons are getting money right

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Speaker 1: the Russian officials and these poutin connected oligarchs. Rachel Mattow

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Speaker 1: care about real news anyway. Victor Vexelberg a putent confidant

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Speaker 1: They gave it all the Clinton Foundation. Clinton Foundation also

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Speaker 1: nine shareholders in a Canadian uranium company called Uranium One.

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Speaker 1: Remember that deal? And then Uranium One was sold to

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Speaker 1: the Russian government in and to make the deal go through,

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Speaker 1: Nuclear Agency to buy assets that amounted to twenty of

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Speaker 1: if she wasn't getting all these kickbacks? Oh, let's not

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Speaker 1: bring that up, Hannity, You're just she lost Trump want. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm so it's so embarrassing. These news networks have gone

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Speaker 1: another clip. Here, where is my sheet? I lost my

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Speaker 1: oheratives And this is from earlier today. This is I

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Speaker 1: think it's Congressman Winstrup. Two of the most what we

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Speaker 1: classified information and I go and tell someone that classified information,

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Speaker 1: a lot of classified information and recently, more recently, UM,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. If all they've done is lie

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Speaker 1: So all of these news are articles that contain this

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Speaker 1: that source to say I can't release classified information, but

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Speaker 1: Mr Turner, because there's a whole lot out there that

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Speaker 1: people lying to reporters. I think that probably happens, but

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Speaker 1: more often than not, it's people who act like they

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Speaker 1: You don't release that information, and it was done by

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Speaker 1: all of the suggestions, you'll hear if you're crazy enough

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Speaker 1: so bad, right, our two Sean Hannity Show one Sean

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of this extravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Three big stories we are following today the confirmation hearings

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Speaker 1: of Neil Gorsich, the slander, the borking, and high tech

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Speaker 1: lynching I'm sure begins. Also, our other top story is

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Speaker 1: the moral selective outrage. Did the Russians try and influence

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Speaker 1: the elections? We're getting to all of that, James Comey

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Speaker 1: and Admiral Roger and the push towards the health care billet's.

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Speaker 1: We have Sarah Carter and John Solomon standing by investigative

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Speaker 1: reporters for CIRCA News. But let's first go to I

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Speaker 1: think one of the key moments in today's testimony that

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Speaker 1: it was Admiral Rodgers and James Comey testifying answering the

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Speaker 1: let's go, let's hit it. So my question as a today,

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Speaker 1: Adamon Rodgers, do you have any evidence that Russia cyber

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Speaker 1: actors changed vote tallies in the state of Michigan. No,

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Speaker 1: intelligence organization, not a domestic intelligence organization, so it would

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Speaker 1: be fair to say we are probably not the best

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Speaker 1: organization to provide a more complete answer. How about the

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Speaker 1: state of Pennsylvania, sir. The state of Wisconsin, sir. State

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Speaker 1: The state of Ohio, no, sir. So you have no

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Speaker 1: Have nothing generated by the National Security Agency? Sir? Director coming,

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Speaker 1: Do you have any evidence of the FBI that any

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Speaker 1: Adam and Rodgers? All right, Sarah Carter and John Solomon,

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Speaker 1: both with Circa dot Com, Circa News, and welcome both

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Speaker 1: of you back to the program. John, what it was

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Speaker 1: your interpretation of not only that exchange, but I got

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Speaker 1: now coming out to bear fruit that you've been way

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Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. Yeah, there's no no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Sehn uh. The FBI director acknowledged that the primary focus

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Speaker 1: But today at Chairman Newness said at the opening of

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Speaker 1: I thought, then why did he Here's my question though, then,

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Speaker 1: why did the FBI director, who is not never supposed

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Speaker 1: That confirms what our sources have been telling you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Sarah, what was your take on it? I I

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Speaker 1: It's certainly I think one thing that I took from it.

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Speaker 1: It certainly is going to keep this question up in

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Speaker 1: was there any evidence ound? I mean, what we know

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Speaker 1: Nunia's statement and those made by others, is that even

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Speaker 1: the Director of National Intelligence, former Director of National Intelligence

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Speaker 1: evidence of collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 1: So that's something else that's very important. But I do

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Speaker 1: think it goes to your point, Sean, that if anybody

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Speaker 1: it was related to Russia's attempts to influence although both

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Speaker 1: point out, had all said that there's no evidence whatsoever

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Speaker 1: to the bottom of this, John Well, the kind intelligence

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Speaker 1: final report is accurate. But if they're this far along,

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Speaker 1: often pretty slim. I think there was a more important

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Speaker 1: point in hearing today's Sean there's a moment where they

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Speaker 1: both men were asked about could there have been political

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Speaker 1: few weeks. Who had access to what before all this

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Speaker 1: stuff leaked? And I think that's going to become an

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Speaker 1: intriguing part of the investigation. Well, that that issue, it's

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Speaker 1: interesting you bring it up because if you let's go

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Speaker 1: back to Trey Gouty questioning today and I won't play

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Speaker 1: it now, but we played in the last hour, but

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Speaker 1: when Trey Gaudy went through the list of people that

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Speaker 1: potentially would have knowledge of of the intelligence that ended

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Speaker 1: up getting leaked, and and we have all the different

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Speaker 1: examples of it that we have talked about it at

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Speaker 1: length on this program. I mean, at that point one

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Speaker 1: has to wonder, I mean, for example, the draft the

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Speaker 1: draft executive order to reopen black sites, or President Trump's

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Speaker 1: calls with the Mexican and Australian leaders, or the transcript

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Speaker 1: of General Flynn's call with the Russian ambassador, or Trump's

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Speaker 1: associates contacts with Russian and the Russians, and memos suggesting

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Speaker 1: a hundred thousand National Guard troops UH could be used

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Speaker 1: on the issue of illegal immigration, Rex Tillerson's anti league memo,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions meeting with the Russian ambassador. All of these

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Speaker 1: are illegal leaks, and yet he wouldn't even acknowledge that

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Speaker 1: that investigation is going on. Sarah, that that is correct,

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Speaker 1: and I think that you you brought that right to

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Speaker 1: our point. You know, John and I just published a

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Speaker 1: story on Friday with regard to that, and according to

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Speaker 1: our sources, apparently, uh, the d o J has not

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Speaker 1: yet given authorization to the FBI to open that investigation.

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Speaker 1: So that's interesting in its in and of itself. And

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Speaker 1: I think that the fact that the leaks came up

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Speaker 1: is the most important point of this entire hearing. They

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Speaker 1: both said UM Admiral Mike Rogers as well as Director

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Speaker 1: James Comey that whoever leaked the information, particularly on Lieutenant

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Speaker 1: General Michael Flynn and his conversation with the Russian ambassador,

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Speaker 1: they violated the Espionage Act. I mean, they are punished.

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Speaker 1: This is a felony. Uh, this is prison time for

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Speaker 1: whoever did this. And when you look at the narrow

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Speaker 1: scope of people that would have viewed this, it is

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Speaker 1: not going to be that difficult for them to retrace

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Speaker 1: those footprints and start asking the right questions and finding

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Speaker 1: out who actually leaked this information, whether it was one

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Speaker 1: person or multiple persons. And I think that is the

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Speaker 1: one fact that came out of this hearing, the fact

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Speaker 1: that well, they know for for a fact that somebody

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Speaker 1: leaked this information and that they violated the law, and

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Speaker 1: that this is a felony. That is the fact, you know.

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Speaker 1: All right, So then let's go to the other reports

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Speaker 1: that you had last week that this whole Russia narrative

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Speaker 1: could have been fed to law enforcement by supporters of

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and donors to Hillary Clinton. The media's run

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Speaker 1: run rough shot with these wild conspiracy theories, one right

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Speaker 1: after another. And I guess the question is, at this

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Speaker 1: particular point, um, if there's no evidence, is this a

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Speaker 1: political thing that's happening, and why didn't they acknowledge? You know,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, for example, is getting beaten up today by

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Speaker 1: everyone in the media because he said that there's no

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Speaker 1: evidence that that wire tapping by Obama took place, But

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Speaker 1: he never said that there wasn't surveillance of Trump servers,

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Speaker 1: which you guys have been reporting. That's correct. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we we did see with with the Trump server, Um,

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Speaker 1: it was a separate investigation. Remember, John and I both

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Speaker 1: reported that this was a traditional investigation by the FBI

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Speaker 1: and of the Trump server after they had been notified

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Speaker 1: and after they had seen reports that there were these

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Speaker 1: pains between the Trump server, which is located outside of

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Speaker 1: Trump Tower, and the Russian bank Alpha Bank. And when

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Speaker 1: they investigated these pains, that was a very short lived investigation.

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Speaker 1: They found nothing of criminality between the servers and they

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Speaker 1: shut the investigation down immediately. So there was an investigation

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Speaker 1: by the FBI, a traditional investigation that was not part

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Speaker 1: of the overall investigation into Russia into these may be connected,

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Speaker 1: but not to the big FISA investigation. They looked in

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Speaker 1: there with the traditional, traditional investigative FBI technique and they

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Speaker 1: found nothing. And you're right, we did discover that the

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Speaker 1: people that were pushing this investigation, one of them, in particular,

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Speaker 1: Professor l Jane Camp, who is very well respected by

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Speaker 1: the way and as an Internet expert, was pushing the

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Speaker 1: FBI to investigate this and was disappointed that they did

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Speaker 1: not continue to investigate this. And she's a big supporter

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Speaker 1: of Hillary Clinton. I was this, I mean, this was

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Speaker 1: a great piece put out by Peter Schweitzer in a

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Speaker 1: column today. You know the Bill and Hillary Clinton got

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Speaker 1: large sums of money directly and indirectly from Russian officials.

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Speaker 1: While Secretary of State Bill Clinton was given a five

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollar fee for a speech that he gave

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Speaker 1: in Moscow. Who footed that Bill Well an investment firm

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Speaker 1: in Moscow called Renaissance Capital, which boasts of their deep

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Speaker 1: ties to Russian intelligence. The Clinton Foundation itself took money

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Speaker 1: from Russian officials and putin connected oligarchs. So the glaring

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Speaker 1: fact that the Clinton's Foundation scored a hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: five million in donations from nine shareholders in a Canadian

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Speaker 1: uranium company called Uranium One that was sold to the

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Speaker 1: Russian government, and the deal required the approval of several

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Speaker 1: federal agencies, including Hillary State Department. That was granted and

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Speaker 1: that gave up what of our uranium or plutonium? That's right, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubtless. And the Russians have tried to so

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Speaker 1: goodwill anywhere they could in the United States, gained influence

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Speaker 1: anyway they can, and Democrats and Republicans alike have have

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Speaker 1: been targeted over the years, and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of that gets lost in this narrative when we focus

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Speaker 1: just on one campaign and one candidate at the exclusion

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Speaker 1: of others. Stay right there. One of the things I

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Speaker 1: think journalism is going to look back and not be

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Speaker 1: very proud of the moment of reporting gets had over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of months. So all the breathlessness that

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Speaker 1: you're you're seeing today based on your deep dive into

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Speaker 1: this is these guys are all gonna have egg on

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Speaker 1: their face. Well unless unless the vaccine, right, unless something

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Speaker 1: gets turned up at the last minute. I think at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think we're gonna end

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Speaker 1: up probably where Copper ended up a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: and where are reporting indicated, which is there's no evidence

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Speaker 1: of criminal collusion. Yes, the Russians tried to influence yet

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Speaker 1: another election. They've done it in the past and they'll

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Speaker 1: do it again, as people said today, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think the breathless breaking news Watergate comparisons that we've had

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Speaker 1: are going to stand up unless the fact based changes.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we'll take a break, we'll come back more

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Speaker 1: with Sarah Carter and John Solomon. Eight nine for one

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Speaker 1: Seawan is our toll free telephone number if you want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the program bringing jobs back

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Speaker 1: to America and America back door s. All right, as

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Speaker 1: we continue with Circuit News reporter Sarah Carter and John Solomon,

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Speaker 1: all Right, I want to where do you both think

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Speaker 1: this is going next? I think this is the most

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Speaker 1: important question. Where are we going next? Here? Well, I

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Speaker 1: think that part of it, Sean is going to be

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Speaker 1: having to look into where the leaks emanated from. I

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Speaker 1: think that's huge. I also think the scope of the

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Speaker 1: FISA is very important. How many people actually saw or

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Speaker 1: had access to the raw unmasked phone conversations between Russian

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Speaker 1: officials and whoever whatever American in the United States? I mean,

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Speaker 1: are are we going to see more of those calls? Um?

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Speaker 1: Did people have access to names and you know unmasked

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Speaker 1: that means not hidden from their their pervy and could

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Speaker 1: those be potential leaks in the future. I think all

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Speaker 1: of these questions need to be answered, and it's something

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Speaker 1: that I think lawmakers as as well as enforcement federal

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Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies, including the intelligence community, are probably gonna

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Speaker 1: want to know. Yeah, I agree with John. If you

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Speaker 1: had the look into your crystal ball and maybe based

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Speaker 1: on a little bit of where you know your investigation

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Speaker 1: is going in the future. Where do you see it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Sarah has it exactly right. Apps in the

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Speaker 1: Bombshow last piece of Evan is coming in finding some

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Speaker 1: magical connection between Trump and Russia. What I think this

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Speaker 1: is all going to turn on is what has happened

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Speaker 1: over the last six years to allow super secret intercepts

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Speaker 1: by the n s A and FBI fights of wire

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Speaker 1: taps to end up in and in hands where it

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Speaker 1: can get leaked so easily. And I think that that

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Speaker 1: that thread. What rules have been changed, what laws have

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Speaker 1: been changed, What sort of carelessness has occurred in allowing

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Speaker 1: people to look at unredacted Americans intercepts and then possibly

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Speaker 1: have them leaked. I think that's going to become the storyline.

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Speaker 1: And I think Democrats and Republicans alike are sort of

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Speaker 1: concerned about what they're hearing in these private briefings about

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Speaker 1: who had access to transcripts, who had access to unredacted

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Speaker 1: Americans intercepts, And I think when we get to the

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Speaker 1: bottom of that question, we're gonna learn a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about privacy and civil liberties and maybe the loss

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Speaker 1: of some privacy that we trake out. He got very

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Speaker 1: specific answers on very specific names, maybe with the exception,

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Speaker 1: so that would tell me that if this all got

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Speaker 1: leaked out, I mean, how do you how do you

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Speaker 1: determine where the leak's come from? And why didn't the

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Speaker 1: FBI director admit those leaks were going on when he

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Speaker 1: admitted the FBI was probing you know, Russia Trump associate links, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, you and all all three of us

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Speaker 1: have been reporting now for almost two weeks. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's right. You call me did say one thing though,

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Speaker 1: he said it was such an extraordinarily rare moment in

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Speaker 1: the intelligence world to have ever seen a fiser or

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Speaker 1: seven or two n s a intercept leaked like what

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Speaker 1: we saw with Mike Flinn. And I think his acknowledgment

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Speaker 1: of that was was a very important moment in the hearings.

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Speaker 1: And I think that when we get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: of who leaked got and how that leak became so

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Speaker 1: easy to happen, how do you want to learn a

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Speaker 1: lot about some sloppiness. How do you respond to the

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Speaker 1: media's cover oh bad day for Trump today? Because I

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Speaker 1: didn't see it that way at all, Sarah, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I I don't make opinions either on this, whether it

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Speaker 1: was a bad or good day for Trump. I haven't

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Speaker 1: actually spoken to President Trump to make that to make

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Speaker 1: that opinion or to get that story out. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's a kind of like assuming, right. I think what

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Speaker 1: here is is very revealing, and I think John brought

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Speaker 1: up a very good point. You know, even though it

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Speaker 1: was a very rare moment when we when we saw

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Speaker 1: this leak so public, I think the bigger concern for

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Speaker 1: me as an investigative journalist is not so much what

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Speaker 1: just already been leaked, but how wide of a scope

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Speaker 1: has has have people had access to these unredacted documents,

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Speaker 1: what could they be used for? I mean, imagine this

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Speaker 1: if people within the intelligence community, within federal law enforcement

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Speaker 1: are looking at this, if they're politicizing this, and this

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Speaker 1: is something that that is very concerning. If they're politicizing intelligence,

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Speaker 1: and if they have information that no one else has

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Speaker 1: because they're able to see phone conversations, they're able to

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Speaker 1: pass those messages along, I mean, this could be very

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Speaker 1: very dangerous, and this is something that you don't want.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is stuff that you would see probably

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Speaker 1: in Russia. Right. Such a good point here in the

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Speaker 1: United States. We have protection, we have protections to our

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Speaker 1: private I've got to run, but we'll have both of

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Speaker 1: you back on Hannity. Are you gonna join us tonight,

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Speaker 1: John or are you gonna make Sarah do all the

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Speaker 1: work for the Circuit News team to be detered? But

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Speaker 1: I'd love to join you, as you know anything, well, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: I at least look forward to seeing you tonight. And

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you beginning to sound like James Comy Solomon.

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Speaker 1: That's all I can say about that, Just kidding. All right,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred nine for one sewn. You want to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the program. I'll check in with Ram

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Speaker 1: Paul and Congressman Dave Bratt next, holding them accountable. Sean

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Speaker 1: gets the answers no one else does. America Desserts and

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Speaker 1: the truth about Congress alright till the top of the hour. Alright.

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Speaker 1: The Republican healthcare bill scheduled as of now for a

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Speaker 1: full floor vote next well this Thursday. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: in fact that happens. Some very uh divisive stuff has happened.

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Speaker 1: We've had We've had ads being run in the districts

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Speaker 1: of some of the more conservative members of Congress that

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Speaker 1: have not been sold on this bill like some of

857
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Speaker 1: the Freedom Caucus members and others. We know how badly

858
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: the CBO blew it on Obamacare. Why anybody uses them

859
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: in any way, shape, matter of form is is beyond

860
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: anything that makes sense to to me. Um And we

861
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: had some apparent movement on Friday when the President meant

862
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: with the Republican Study Group. Now they're they're conservative, but

863
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: not as conservative as the Freedom Caucus members, And anyway,

864
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they apparently agreed to

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Speaker 1: give states the option to impose work requirements on Medicaid

866
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: recipients and to block grant Medicaid. That's something specifically I

867
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: know that the Freedom Caucus wanted in their bill. And

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00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: also in addition to the Medicaid agreement with the Republican

869
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: Study Group, the White House and House leaders are also

870
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Speaker 1: eyeing increasing tax credits in the bill, something that I

871
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: guess would bring more of the left on board and

872
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: the centrists on board or whatever liberal Republicans on board. Anyway,

873
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: here to get a status update on this to launch

874
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: critics of the bill up till now, uh, And they

875
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: both have an alternative bill that they've been pushing, one

876
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: that I prefer myself Senator Rampaul of Kentucky and Congressman

877
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: Dave brad of Virginia and UH. Senator Paul will start

878
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: with you, considering you are in the upper chamber, sir um,

879
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: where where's the status of this? You've been very gracious

880
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: in your comments about the President being willing to open

881
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: his mind and negotiate with you. Where are you now?

882
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 1: You know, I think that the bill as is can't pass.

883
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: Conservatives across the country don't want Obamacare light as conservatives.

884
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: You know, I was elected in the first Tea Party

885
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: title wave in two thousand and ten, and I was

886
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: elected to repeal Obamacare, you know, not to replace it

887
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: with Obama hair lights. I'm not for keeping the subsidies.

888
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: The most recent movement this week has been to increase

889
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: the subsidies to people UH through what we call refundable

890
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: tax credits, but really it's just another name for Obamacare subsidies.

891
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: This bill keeps some of the Obamacare taxes and also

892
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: keeps the individual mandate that says you have to pay

893
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: the insurance company instead of the government. So I just

894
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: think Obamacare lights. So you you have not seen any

895
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: significant movement at all and you got. You didn't like

896
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: any of the changes they made Friday, for example, imposing

897
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: work requirements and block renting versus top down government. I

898
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: would say tweaks around the edges that are marginally good.

899
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: But at the same time they may have made the

900
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: Medicaid expansion less expensive, they also added to the expense

901
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: by adding the increasing the refundable tax credits, So they

902
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: may have marginally improved it, but they also made it

903
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: worse by increasing tax credits that we have no You know,

904
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: we have no money in Washington. We're twenty trillion dollars

905
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: in debt. We borrow a million dollars a minute. We

906
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: don't have money to give people my money when we

907
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: have no money up here, Congressman Bratt, the two changes

908
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: on Friday I remember specifically, were two changes you personally

909
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: told me you wanted to see, especially the block granting

910
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: side of it. Yeah, that's right, and uh, the the

911
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: important part of block granting if it gets the federal

912
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: government out of the healthcare UH equation, but unfortunate. Last week,

913
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Speaker 1: National Journal, one of the tabloids we get up here.

914
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Both conservative think tanks and liberal think tanks both agree.

915
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 1: They both agree that all of the architecture and all

916
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: of the structure of Obamacare stays with us. And so

917
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: what is that architecture that contains the insurance regulations that

918
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: Center Paul was just talking about. Uh, the rags make

919
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: sure that the federal government can mandate the type of

920
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: insurance products you will buy, so a young kid cannot

921
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: go out by a low price product. And so what

922
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: Senator Apologist said is, uh, the bill gets rid of

923
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: some of the tax revenues, but in crazes cost and

924
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: so the main thing we have to focus on is

925
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: there's no free market here yet right President Trump wants

926
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: shopping across state lines. We have to have a market

927
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: emerged for healthcare. For President Trump in two years is

928
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: going to be stuck in a death spiral of his own.

929
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: When you take in less money and costs go up

930
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: and we're not expected CBO scored so that we're not

931
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: Our costs are not going to go down for another

932
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: three years. There's no premium reduction for three years. So

933
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: we have an election coming up. President Trump has an election.

934
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: It's not about elections. But you have to start with

935
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: the Rand Paul bill. You've got to start with free markets,

936
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: and then everybody agrees we've got to take care of

937
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: those folks with pre existing conditions. Uh, they're five of

938
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: the people with over of the national national healthcare costs.

939
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: That's a real problem. But that's that's is a target

940
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: on the side there uninsurable. So that should not impact

941
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: the insurance market. We have to have free markets for

942
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: insurance for hospitals, so you don't get twenty dollar aspirin.

943
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: You cannot start with a socialist pro Graham and then

944
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: get promised that we're gonna try to work in this

945
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: little bit of free markets later. Is there any doesn't

946
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: work that way? Is there any Freedom Caucus member that

947
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: you know that supporting those bill? Uh, there's a couple

948
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: of guys that are on some of the relevant committees

949
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: that have made commitments. But we got a strong number there.

950
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: And then there's some moderates that are already know out

951
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: on the record, and there's a bunch of the moderate

952
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: U you know, folks who are in tough states in

953
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: the north East have more liberal leaning constituencies there. No,

954
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of these people are just being quiet

955
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: right now. But I think it's it's you know, forty

956
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: or fifty knows that we know of and and those

957
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: are the folks that are you know, gone on on

958
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: the record. And then for what what Branda said and

959
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: Tom Cotton and Lee and Cruz or the Senate's gonna

960
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: vote no. So you got the Republicans are gonna put

961
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: themselves on the record voting yes for the structure of Obamacare.

962
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: The Senate is going to vote no. And then they

963
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: got to go back home and face to face the music.

964
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: That goes back to my original criticism and common here

965
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: is in the weeks leading up to the rollout of

966
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: those bill, Senator Paul I kept telling people in high

967
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: places that you don't have support for your bill. I said,

968
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: you're not showing it to him. You don't have support

969
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: for it. Why don't you build consensus, Why don't you

970
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: throw everybody in a room, and why don't you get

971
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: the bill right first before you roll it out? Instead

972
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: of this public you know brew haha, an intramural fight

973
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: and civil war that's broken out here. And I think

974
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: it was really unnecessary because everything I predicted what happened did.

975
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: And I guess the question is where are you a

976
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: senator in terms of you know, you you praised the

977
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: president in terms of being willing to listen to your ideas.

978
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: Has he implemented or accepted any of them? I mean,

979
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: I think the real problem is Paul Ryan went around

980
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: the country and continues to go around the country saying,

981
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: we all ran on his repeal and replace bill. Well,

982
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: none of us ran on his repeal and replace. We

983
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: ran on repeal. Every one of us ran on complete repeal,

984
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 1: similar along voted on a year ago, and then Paul

985
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: Ryan pops out with this thing that's a replacement. It's

986
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: uh sort of happening. Ryan said, Even the twenty five

987
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: team bill was not a full repeal bill, and it

988
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: was much more complete in the sense that they didn't

989
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: add in new things that are Obamacare light, it didn't

990
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: repeal the insurance rags. But my goal all along was

991
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: to have a companion bill. So about two months ago

992
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: I wrote a replacement bill that's a companion bill to

993
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: the I've got it in front of me, s to

994
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: S sent it to to too. Right. Yeah, And so

995
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: the thing is is there still is unity on repeal.

996
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: We could vote on the twenty fifteen bill this week

997
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: and it would pass unanimously, and then what we would

998
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: do is we would separate out and we'd vote on

999
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: replacement the same day, and maybe we'd vote on the

1000
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: conservative version, the Obamacare Light version, and maybe a Democrat version.

1001
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: But we'd see what would pass on the replacement, and

1002
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 1: then really, whoever passes are fatal. That's where the next

1003
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: argument comes for you know what happens with health care

1004
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: in the future. Because I think we have the votes

1005
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: for repeal, we just don't have the votes and the

1006
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: unity for replacement. You know, the one thing I've been trying,

1007
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to offer constructive criticism to the guys. Number One,

1008
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: if I was the leadership, I would have you and

1009
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz and Mike Lee and and

1010
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: Marco Ruby. I'd have and and Senator Mitch McConnell in

1011
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: the room, and then i'd have Health and Human Services

1012
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: Secretary Tom Price in the room. And then i'd have

1013
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: at least the Vice President Mike Pence in the room.

1014
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: And then i'd have Ryan's previous Steve Bannon and other

1015
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: others in the room. And then i'd have the Freedom

1016
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: Caucus and the Study Committee in the room, and even

1017
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: those moderates in the room. And I'd take everywhere everybody's

1018
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: phone away and not let any one of you leave

1019
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: that room until this was done. But the real, the

1020
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: real negotiation seawan begins if the vote. If the House

1021
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus sticks together and they're able to stop the

1022
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: vote on Thursday, then that's when the real negotiation begins.

1023
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Right now is the pre negotiation. There's not gonna be

1024
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: any significant change in this bill unless they don't have

1025
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: the votes. If they don't have the votes on Thursday,

1026
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: then conservatives will have earned a seat at the table.

1027
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: And that's when push comes to show, and that's when

1028
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna work on review. Are you confident that you

1029
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 1: have those votes, Dave Brent, Yeah, Yeah, we're we're holding tight.

1030
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: And they're like I said, Rob Whitman's not in the

1031
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: freedom cost fits. There's several Amash and Thomas Matthew from Kentucky.

1032
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: There's some other great guys. There are gonna be no votes,

1033
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: and then there's some more liberal members, three of them

1034
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: that have committed to know how many no votes are

1035
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: as of today without changes that you guys are insisting on,

1036
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: And I know you gave a list of five specific

1037
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: things as of today, how many members do you have

1038
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: locked in against the bill? UH? Thirty seven knows and

1039
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: you need twenty one. And I don't want to emphasize

1040
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: the note part we're trying to get to yet, but

1041
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: it's it's like Senator Paulitans, it's yes on our promise.

1042
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: We promised to repeal Obamacare, that was the initial and

1043
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: then repeal and replaced with free market solutions. And so

1044
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: we want to get to yes. But we promised free

1045
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: market solutions to actually solve this. We don't want to

1046
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,959
Speaker 1: put in place what Obamacare did eight years ago, which

1047
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: was an exclusive attention on coverage in cp OH. Now

1048
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: it's all on coverage and nothing on price. Nothing, I

1049
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: price discovery, nothing. I'm reducing the cost of innovation in

1050
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: medicine and etcetera. And so that that's the key piece

1051
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: the American people need to focus on. Well, all right,

1052
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: so let me let me go here. One of the

1053
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: things that I've talked a lot about, not only the

1054
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: healthcare savings accounts, but these cooperative healthcare cooperatives. Sentator Upon,

1055
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: I told you about Dr Umber and Wichita, Kansas, and

1056
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: how he's duplicated that model. Fifty bucks a month an adult,

1057
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: ten bucks a month a child, and you pay pennies

1058
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: on the dollar even for an X ray or an

1059
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: m R I and I'm just wondering, you know, wouldn't

1060
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 1: that be the smartest way to go? And I don't

1061
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: hear anybody else talking about it. Well, here's the problem.

1062
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: You have house leadership. They're insufficiently confidence in the marketplace

1063
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: and in capitalism. So instead of saying how we're gonna

1064
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: get the price down, what they're talking about is how

1065
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: we're going to subsidize the price for those just before retirement.

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00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: As they're adding to the subsidies. And here's the point

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Speaker 1: I make. If you let everybody in the a a

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Speaker 1: r P thirty seven million people, you let them join

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Speaker 1: a health co op and have one person negotiating for them,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll drop the prices in a half, in an

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Speaker 1: in a single instance. Once you give that power and

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Speaker 1: that leverage to big groups to negotiate. I was at

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Speaker 1: the Chamber of Commerce today in Louisville. Chamber of Commerce

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Speaker 1: across the country could have leverage by letting all of

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Speaker 1: their members be part of a health care association. That's

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Speaker 1: what we should be talking about. That should be part

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Speaker 1: of the debate now. And Ryan and the others don't

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Speaker 1: disagree with us, but they say, oh, we're going to

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Speaker 1: wait and do that in bucket three, you know, six

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Speaker 1: years from now. And it really needs to be this

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Speaker 1: is the debate. There's not going to be a debate

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Speaker 1: in six months. This is the debate. It's the only

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Speaker 1: debate on Obamacare. And we have to be talking about

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Speaker 1: the good things that were fourth with insurance. And then

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Speaker 1: we've been doing a lot of that on this program,

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Speaker 1: and I know that that a lot of it is

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Speaker 1: in the bill, which I like the lot that you

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Speaker 1: guys have put out. And we'll see what happens by Thursday.

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Speaker 1: If they don't have a vote, that means they don't

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Speaker 1: have the votes. All right, guys, stay right there. When

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Speaker 1: we come back, I want to ask you, you know,

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Speaker 1: why is there a rush number one? And and why

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Speaker 1: aren't these alternative plans being discussed more with Dave Bratt

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Speaker 1: Senator rand Paul all right, so the health care bill,

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Speaker 1: there is talk of a vote in the House on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and all right, so why is there a rush Dave Brett,

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Speaker 1: considering there's still a lot of opposition out there, and

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Speaker 1: what has been the outreach from a the leadership in

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Speaker 1: in the House and be the president. Yeah, Well, why

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Speaker 1: is there rush? And then let's get back to the debate.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the eighth grade Civics class, where

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Speaker 1: has been the debate? Where's brand Paul's still been debated

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Speaker 1: on the House floor? Right? And so there is a rush.

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Speaker 1: Our side says we're doing regular order. Uh, the eighth

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Speaker 1: graders looking for a debate, and so now we pass forward.

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Speaker 1: Trump now is getting ready to do tax reform. So

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Speaker 1: that's why there is urgency now. But we didn't create

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Speaker 1: this urgency. Right. We all ran on the two thousand

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Speaker 1: fifteen repeal, but all the Senate voted on, all the

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Speaker 1: House voted on. It's a note brainer and so Rand

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Speaker 1: is right, we ought to return to that. One gets

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Speaker 1: the repeal vote, so the REGs it all goes through

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Speaker 1: in the Bird rule. You got Harvard scholars who have

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Speaker 1: said there's no problem getting a vote on this reconciliation

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Speaker 1: piece over there. Have you have you heard from Ryan McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: Brady Scalsa. Do you guys talk to them here? I

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Speaker 1: mean we bounce ideas off as that's again. Mark Meadows

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Speaker 1: was down at mar Lavo with Lee and a couple

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Speaker 1: other senators. I think this weekend and our guys agreed

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Speaker 1: to stay in a room like you suggested until we

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Speaker 1: knocked this thing out. And so our leadership is in

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Speaker 1: a rush. They want to get this plan alright. Reason

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Speaker 1: the urgency on this plan. I guess Ram Paul's fortunate

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Speaker 1: in that the Senate majority of leaders is from his

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Speaker 1: home state. And I know you guys have supported each

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Speaker 1: other a lot over the years. It's not like you

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Speaker 1: and Senator McCain. By the way, I thought that exchange

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Speaker 1: was hilarious this week. Uh uh, accusing you of colluding

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Speaker 1: with Vladimir I almost died laughing. Um. But anyway, what's

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Speaker 1: what's up in the Senate and how contingent is it

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Speaker 1: going to be there on the bill of the House

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Speaker 1: or does that? Is that irrelevant? The interesting thing is,

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Speaker 1: through the years, you know, repeal has brought us all together,

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Speaker 1: but the idea of replace is really separating us. I

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Speaker 1: would say at least half of our caucus or a

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Speaker 1: third of our caucus once more subsidy, and they also

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Speaker 1: want to keep the Medicaid expansion. That's that's kind of

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Speaker 1: where our Senate Republican caucus is. And then there's five

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Speaker 1: six seven Conservatives who think, you know, we promised to

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Speaker 1: repeal it. Let's repeal it, and let's replace it with

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Speaker 1: a marketplace that will bring down prices. And let's not

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Speaker 1: subsidize the floor for insurance rates. Let's not subsidize the

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Speaker 1: insurance companies. Let's actually work at empowering the consumer to

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Speaker 1: bring prices down. But we are really divided on the replace.

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Speaker 1: That's why the only way I think we get this

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Speaker 1: done is vote on repeal, and then the same day

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Speaker 1: we can begin voting on a host of different replacement strategies.

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Speaker 1: There's a Conservative replacement, there's Paul Ryan's Obamacare Light, and

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Speaker 1: then there could be a Democrat version. There could be

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Speaker 1: portions of each of the of each of the replacements

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Speaker 1: could come forward. But I don't believe sticking them together,

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Speaker 1: insulting us by saying that we actually ran on this,

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Speaker 1: when every conservatives in the land knows we ran on

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Speaker 1: repealing it, not replacing with Obamacare life. All right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna hold them accountable. I want this done and done right.

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Speaker 1: The President needs this win, and not getting this bill

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Speaker 1: done it's just not acceptable, especially because they've had eight

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Speaker 1: years to prepare for this and they're not prepared. All right,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Rampaul Senator appreciate it, and Congressman uh, we

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Speaker 1: really appreciated. Dave brad of Virginia, Shawn our number. You

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program, News round Up,

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Speaker 1: Information Overload, straight ahead, all right, News round Up, Information Overload.

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Speaker 1: Our here on the Sean Hannity Show. Three top stories

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Speaker 1: we are following today, the confirmation hearings, Neil Gorsch has

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Speaker 1: all started a push to get a healthcare vote on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and of course James Comey and his testimony on Capitol

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Speaker 1: Hill earlier today, which we will get to all of that.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with the issue though, of of

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Speaker 1: the hearings that nobody's really paying attention to. And we

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Speaker 1: got Pat Lahy believing that gorste being an originalist is

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Speaker 1: outside the mainstream. By the way, the guy got not

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Speaker 1: a single vote of opposition by any Democrat when he

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Speaker 1: got to the tenth Circuit. And then we got Dick

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Speaker 1: Durbin saying that Republicans handling of Merrick Carlin was political,

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Speaker 1: So this is gonna be political. Listen, Judge Gorse, It's

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Speaker 1: appears to have a comprehensive originalist philosophy. The approach taken

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Speaker 1: by Jurish such as Justice Clea, Justice Thomas, former Judge Bourg.

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Speaker 1: While it has gained some popularity within conservative circles, originalism,

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Speaker 1: I believe remains outside the mainstream of modern constitutional jurisprudence.

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Speaker 1: Has been twenty five years since the originalist has been

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Speaker 1: nominated to the Supreme Court. Given what we've seen from

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Speaker 1: Justice Cleia and Justice Thomas and Judge Corset's own record,

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Speaker 1: I worry that goes beyond being a philosophy and that

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Speaker 1: becomes an agenda. We know that conservative groups, adverted Judge

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Speaker 1: Corsets and the millionaires who fund them have a clear

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Speaker 1: agenda when this anti choice, anti environment, pro corporate, and

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Speaker 1: these groups are obviously confident the Judge Corset shares their agenda.

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Speaker 1: President Obama met his constitutionally required obligation by nominating Judge

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Speaker 1: Merrick Garland to fill that vacancy. In March of sixteen,

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Speaker 1: Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell announced that for the first

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Speaker 1: time in the history of the United States Senate, he

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Speaker 1: would refuse Judge Garland a hearing and a vote. He

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Speaker 1: went further and said he would refuse to even meet

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Speaker 1: with the judge. It was clear that Senator McConnell was

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Speaker 1: making a political decision, hoping a Republican president would be elected.

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Speaker 1: He was willing to ignore the tradition and president of

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Speaker 1: the Senate so that you could sit at this witness

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Speaker 1: table today. In May except and September of sixteen, Republican

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Speaker 1: presidential candidate Donald Trump released a list of twenty one names,

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Speaker 1: including yours, that he would consider to fill the scholee

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Speaker 1: of vacancy. Your nomination is part of a Republican strategy

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Speaker 1: to capture our judicial branch of government. That is why

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Speaker 1: the Senate Republicans kept this Supreme Court seat vacant for

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Speaker 1: more than a year and why they left thirty judicial

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Speaker 1: nominees who would see bipartisan approval of this committee to

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Speaker 1: die on the Senate calendar as President Obama left office. Alright,

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Speaker 1: One thing that Dick Durbin kept out of that was

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Speaker 1: the fact that this was the Democrats rule. This was

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Speaker 1: invented by them, that in the final year that it

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Speaker 1: should become a referendum. Chuck Schumer and company, that this

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Speaker 1: is what they did, This is what they decided. Republicans

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Speaker 1: were just following what Democrats have done in the past

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Speaker 1: and stated publicly should be the way to handle the

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Speaker 1: last year of a of a presidency anyway. Here to

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Speaker 1: weigh in on this and much more. A lot of

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Speaker 1: news going on today. Danielle McLaughlin, attorney, constitutional expert who

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Speaker 1: wrote co wrote The Federalist Society How Conservatives took the

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Speaker 1: law back from liberals. Jay Seculo, the Chief council for

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Speaker 1: the American Center for Law and Justice. Al Right, so

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Speaker 1: basically it's an opening, opening statement posturing day. Um, do

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Speaker 1: you see any Democrats maybe besides Mansion and a couple

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Speaker 1: of others that would vote for culture and allowing up

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Speaker 1: or down vote? How many do you count? I'm telling Sean,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a party line. I think Mansion

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Speaker 1: will be probably the exception, maybe one other. Um. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they'll let it go to a filibuster, though.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll eventually allow closure to take place, only

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Speaker 1: because they want to save that um for another nomination,

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Speaker 1: which is likely to occur this summer. But the idea

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Speaker 1: that you had Patrick Leahy say that originalism is out

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Speaker 1: of the mainstream of judicial thought is absurd. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at the Supreme Court decision from the last

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Speaker 1: you know, let's say, three decades there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: originalism in there because and much of that time a

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Speaker 1: majority of the court we're originalists. So there's only been

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Speaker 1: this last go round with the four or four that

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Speaker 1: it really hasn't. I mean, you can argue about Justice Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: but generally there's an originalist philosophy, and I think that

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Speaker 1: this is if this is what they have against Judge Gorsuch,

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Speaker 1: they've got nothing. Do you have anything, Danielle or should

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Speaker 1: he be approved? I mean, he's got the highest rating

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Speaker 1: from the A B A, which is not exactly a

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Speaker 1: conservative group. All of his colleagues say he's a deep

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Speaker 1: think he has all the credentials to be a Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court justice. Why wouldn't the Democrats at least allow a

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Speaker 1: fair up or down vote. I suspect that they will

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Speaker 1: sean um, you know, good afternoon to both of you.

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Speaker 1: I agree with Jay, I see this as a party

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Speaker 1: line vote. Uh, And I suspect that they won't be

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Speaker 1: a forced filibuster because we do have a couple of

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Speaker 1: other jurists, specifically Justice Ginsburg and obviously Justice Anthony Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: who may be coming towards the end of their term,

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Speaker 1: and the nomination of Justice, well, Judge Gorsitch would restore

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Speaker 1: the balance that we saw prior to Scalia. To the

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Speaker 1: point about originalism, you know, Jay, your point is well taken.

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Speaker 1: And I think this sort of thirty year period is

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Speaker 1: is pretty fair to say at the point at which

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Speaker 1: originalism has really risen into the jurisprudence of not only

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and what we're hearing from judges there,

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Speaker 1: but you know throughout our judiciary. Um it me who

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Speaker 1: is obviously a long time faithful uh uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: man who worked alongside Reagan in the White House and

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Speaker 1: obviously in California. UM started talking about it in about

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Speaker 1: and it. I wouldn't consider it to be outside the mainstream.

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Speaker 1: I think that Democrats uh try and talk about originalism

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Speaker 1: at their way to their carol, because it's real, people

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Speaker 1: believe in it. I think we should have, you know,

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Speaker 1: informed discussions about the idea of a living constitution against originalism,

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Speaker 1: but to cool it out of the mainstream, it's really

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Speaker 1: not and I think that's a political mistake. It's a

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Speaker 1: political mistake. But now things have gotten very personal now

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Speaker 1: that Harry Reid has changed the nuclear option role on

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Speaker 1: judges and other appointees then you've got to imagine that

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Speaker 1: what's good for the Democrats is now going to be

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Speaker 1: good for the Republicans, and I push comes to shove,

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Speaker 1: they would use that nuclear option that Harry read opened

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Speaker 1: and they would go forward. I think that's right. And

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Speaker 1: the fact is, Sean Judge Gorst's in about two to

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Speaker 1: three weeks, it's gonna be justice courses. It may be

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Speaker 1: through a nuclear option, it may not have to be

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Speaker 1: through a nuclear option. Will find out, but this judge

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Speaker 1: is going to be confirmed unless there's something that nobody knows.

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Speaker 1: And we've done an exhaustive hundred age analysis of every

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Speaker 1: decision of significance that he's rendered. They are within the

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Speaker 1: judicial mainstream. I've had the privilege of having a case

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Speaker 1: before Judge Gorser's at the U. S. Corp of Appeals

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Speaker 1: for the ten Circuit where he sat. So look, I

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Speaker 1: think that this is an eminently well qualified individual. I

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Speaker 1: think that these are really statements that were made today

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Speaker 1: are really aimed at the Mary Gartland situation is not

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Speaker 1: aimed at Judge Gorsuch. He's the nominee. You're right, it

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Speaker 1: was the Biden rule that said in the last year

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Speaker 1: the presidency, you don't confirm someone to the United States

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. And they're the ones that also changed the

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Speaker 1: filibuster rules. So the precedent is against them, uh, without

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Speaker 1: any question here. And I think they're gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay for that if they if they do try to filibuster,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna lose. At the end of the day, he'll

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Speaker 1: be confirmed. All right, let's move on, both of you.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's go to the call me testifying, test testifying

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Speaker 1: from earlier today. Let's play a little bit of Tray

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Speaker 1: Goudy because I thought he was probably the most effective Republican.

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Speaker 1: I was not actually, and this is holding Republicans accountable.

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Speaker 1: I was not that impressed with the preparation of some

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Speaker 1: of these Republicans J. And you know what It's like,

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Speaker 1: what do these guys do for a living? They weren't

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Speaker 1: prepared for the healthcare bill after eight years of arguing,

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Speaker 1: and they had all this lead up. But knowing that

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Speaker 1: the FBI directors coming, I have at least fifteen questions

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Speaker 1: I would like to ask that haven't been asked yet. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's play Trey Goudy. Do you know whether Director Clapper

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Speaker 1: knew the name of the U. S. Citizen um that

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Speaker 1: appeared in the New York Times in Washington Post. I

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Speaker 1: can't say in this form because again I don't want

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Speaker 1: to confirm that there was classified information in the news.

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Speaker 1: Would he have access to an unmasked name in in

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Speaker 1: some circumstances? Sure, he's the Director of National Intelligence, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the particular. Would Director Brennan have

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Speaker 1: access to an unmasked U. S. Citizens name in some circumstances? Yes?

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Speaker 1: With National Security Advisor Susan Rice have access to an

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Speaker 1: unmasked US citizens name, I think any yes, in general,

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Speaker 1: and any other national security advisor would, I think as

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Speaker 1: a matter of their ordinary course of their business. Would

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Speaker 1: former Wide House Advisor Ben Rhodes have access to an

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Speaker 1: unmapped US citizens name. I don't know the answer to that.

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Speaker 1: Would former Attorney General Aretta Lynch have access to an

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Speaker 1: unmasked US citizens name? In general? Yes, as would any

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Speaker 1: attorney general, So that would also include acting A G.

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Speaker 1: Sally Yates same answer. I do understand that you cannot

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Speaker 1: ordinarily confirm or deny the existence of an investigation, but

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Speaker 1: you did it this morning, citing d o J policy.

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Speaker 1: Given the gravity of the fact pattern. Would you not

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Speaker 1: agree that surveillance programs that are critical, indispensable, vital to

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Speaker 1: our national security, some of which are up for reauthorization

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Speaker 1: this fall, that save American lives and prevent terrorist attacks

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Speaker 1: also rises to the level of important. I think those

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Speaker 1: programs are vital, and leaks of information collective pursuant to

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Speaker 1: court order under those programs are terrible, and as I

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Speaker 1: said my opening statements should be taken very, very seriously.

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Speaker 1: What I don't ever want to do is compound what's

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Speaker 1: bad people have done and confirm something that's in the newspaper,

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Speaker 1: because sometimes newspaper gets it right. As a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of wrong information about allegedly about classified activities that's in

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Speaker 1: the newspaper, we don't call them and correct them either.

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Speaker 1: That's another big challenge, But we just can't go anywhere

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Speaker 1: near it because we don't want to help and compound

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Speaker 1: the offense that was committed. I understand that director comedy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying really hard not to get you to

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Speaker 1: discuss the facts at bar. But some of the words

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Speaker 1: that appeared in this public reporting include the word transcript,

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Speaker 1: which has a very unique use in the matters that

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Speaker 1: you and I are discussing this morning. That is a

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Speaker 1: very unique use of that word. Wire tab has a

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Speaker 1: very specific meaning. The name of a US citizen that

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Speaker 1: was supposed to statutorially be protected is no longer protected.

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Speaker 1: So some of this reporting, let's assume ninety percent of

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Speaker 1: it is inaccurate. That other ten percent is still really

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Speaker 1: really important and to the extent that you can rely

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Speaker 1: on the dates, and either the Washington Post or the

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Speaker 1: New York Times, we are talking about February of this

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Speaker 1: year is when the reporting first took place. So we

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Speaker 1: are we're a month and a half or two months

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Speaker 1: into all right, I'm running out of time here. You

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Speaker 1: get the point J really quick response, and we'll pick

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Speaker 1: it up on the other side. Yeah. First, and this

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Speaker 1: is the clearest one, is that the FBI director won't

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Speaker 1: acknowledge that there's actually an investigation of the leaked information,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was the whole purpose of this. That

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Speaker 1: he doesn't acknowledge, But he does say that there's an

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Speaker 1: investigation of Donald Trump associates in Russia, but doesn't say

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Speaker 1: that there's an investigation of the leaked information because he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to acknowledge that that information may well have

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Speaker 1: been secret or classified. This is a search on and

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Speaker 1: the American people need to be alarmed, right, left or center.

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Speaker 1: This is outrageous. Real quick? Do you agree with that,

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Speaker 1: Daniel McLaughlin. I think the focus of this Leaves hearing

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Speaker 1: has to be on Trump campaign collision with Russia. Today

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Speaker 1: we have confirmations of the FBI. That's the biggest take

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Speaker 1: quest of the American people. Okay, but why didn't he

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Speaker 1: do it? If he would confirm one investigation, why not another? Well,

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Speaker 1: as we all know, it's the d o J and

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Speaker 1: the FBI practice not to consid Okay, but that's my point.

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Speaker 1: You can't say you have one and then say I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you about the other. Well, he did this

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Speaker 1: with Hillary Clinton. Then before all right, I gotta take

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Speaker 1: a break. And as we continue, of course, three big

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Speaker 1: top stories that we are covering on a program today,

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Speaker 1: the least of which is James Comey's testifying on Capitol Hill,

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Speaker 1: and then of course the Gorst's confirmation hearings have begun

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Speaker 1: and we're hitting that today, and the health care bill

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Speaker 1: is moving forward. Eight n one Shawn J. Sekulo, Let's

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Speaker 1: go back to what is Why wouldn't the FBI director

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Speaker 1: mentioned another ongoing investigation for exactly you know. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, if it's so bad that foreign countries are

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Speaker 1: influencing our elections, well why didn't anybody care about Obama

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Speaker 1: openly trying to influence influence the election of Israel? Because

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Speaker 1: it didn't serve the narrative. But you gotta look at

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Speaker 1: two things here. Number one is the interesting comment, the

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Speaker 1: opening comment by the chairman Nuniez, who says, well, there's

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Speaker 1: no evidence of wire taps. This does not mean that

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Speaker 1: there was no other surveillance going on. Then you have

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Speaker 1: the admission by the FBI director than in fact, there

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Speaker 1: is an ongoing criminal investigation of Trump is so see

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Speaker 1: it's in Russia, which means there's obviously some surveillance that's

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Speaker 1: been going on. Then you have the statement that he's

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Speaker 1: not going to talk about whether there's an investigation of

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Speaker 1: leaked information because he doesn't even want to acknowledge that

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Speaker 1: whether that's classified or not. He follows that up. And

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Speaker 1: by by the way, this is to me, all of

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Speaker 1: this is absurd in the analysis, and he paints a narrative.

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Speaker 1: And the fourth takeaway here is and I think everybody

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Speaker 1: needs to know this one to it there's not any

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Speaker 1: evidence that one vote was impacted by this alleged Russian engagement.

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Speaker 1: And I am no fan of Russia, as you know,

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Speaker 1: but there was no evidence that anything in the election

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Speaker 1: was impacted by this Russian engagement. And then when he

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Speaker 1: was final closed with this, then he was asked about

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Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton matter and and favoritism. He said, well,

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Speaker 1: everybody knew that the Russians hated Clinton and they wanted

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Speaker 1: Trump to win. This is from the director of the FBI, Sean,

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Speaker 1: this is this is beyond the pale of acceptability. Do

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Speaker 1: you think he needs he does? It's hard to make

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Speaker 1: him go. That's the problem. So hard because you'd have

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Speaker 1: to serve at a ten year term. I know, but

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Speaker 1: and it's got to be and it's got to almost

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Speaker 1: be like a high crime and misdemeanor. And that's the

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Speaker 1: problem here. But James Comey has engaged himself in partisan

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Speaker 1: politics going back to the election and continues to do

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Speaker 1: it even today. I agree with that too, Daniel mcglacla.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a believer in process and institutions. And

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Speaker 1: just like when many of my friends who are levels,

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Speaker 1: who are Democrats, were up in arms when James Tony

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Speaker 1: Tommy supplemented his testimony and as in a huge kind

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Speaker 1: of words eleven days before the election. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think he did what he felt was right. Generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to talk about within an investigation even

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Speaker 1: even exists or not. But what we did get from

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Speaker 1: these hearings are some really important things that American people

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Speaker 1: need to like really absorb. Never wonder is an ongoing

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Speaker 1: investigation into Trump associates campaign. Daniel, Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: one question. Can you name one specific bit of evidence

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Speaker 1: that proves that the Russians and the Trump campaign colluded

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Speaker 1: in the election. I don't know whether that exists or not.

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Speaker 1: And that is James Commy job. Why if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any proof, why is he saying, well, we've been

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Speaker 1: investigating it since July and here it is, what eight

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Speaker 1: months later, and we have nothing And he goes out

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Speaker 1: and says, we're investigating still. Look, these things can take years.

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Speaker 1: As we well know, well, he's not going to You're

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Speaker 1: a better lawyer than that happened. James Comey went out

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Speaker 1: there and made a political statement. That's what this was

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Speaker 1: all about, Sean. At the end of the day, this

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Speaker 1: was all about politics, whether it was the Clinton statement

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Speaker 1: that he made which was not very professional, or whether

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Speaker 1: it's the fact I'm going to talk about this investigation

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Speaker 1: but not talk about that investigation. This is the ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And he did acknowledge no votes were impacted here, So

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Speaker 1: a lot of this is much ado about nothing. Again,

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Speaker 1: if the Russians were engaged, go investigated, great, it didn't

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Speaker 1: impact the election. But I will tell you this, not

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Speaker 1: acknowledging that you're criminally investigating the leak of information of

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Speaker 1: itself as inexcusable. All right, I agree that's a double standard.

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Speaker 1: That is uh. I don't see how he can get over.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you both of being with us when

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Speaker 1: we come back, wide open telephones eight nine one sewn.

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Speaker 1: You want to be a part of the program on

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Speaker 1: this busy newsday, we will continue, all right, holding them

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Speaker 1: accountable everybody doesn't matter who it is. They make promises,

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Speaker 1: they got to keep them. That's our that is where

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Speaker 1: we do our best work. They made promises, Now keep

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Speaker 1: them eight nine for one seawn if you want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the program. What a insane day

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Speaker 1: this has been. Today you have the Neil Gorst hearings,

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Speaker 1: the confirmation hearings that have begun today. We got now

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Speaker 1: movement on the healthcare bill, maybe a vote as early

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Speaker 1: as Thursday on this bill, So we're watching that very closely.

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Speaker 1: And whatever concessions have made to conservatives and whether or

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Speaker 1: not they get enough on board to make this a

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Speaker 1: viable bill. Looks like it's gonna go down to the

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Speaker 1: last minute here. And then, of course James Comey ridiculous

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Speaker 1: testimony before the the House Intelligence Committee today, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just pretty mind numbing to me on so many

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Speaker 1: of these. You know that the selective moral outrage of

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Speaker 1: the left is so on display. What outrage Russia try

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Speaker 1: to influenced the election, but they didn't do it, they

1486
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: didn't succeed. Clapper said it, Admiral Rogers said it, Comey

1487
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: said it. That's not the headline that is on the

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01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: newshold Day today. But if they really cared about foreign

1489
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: government's influencing elections, nobody seemed to care that Obama did

1490
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: it to our close friend and ally Israel, not his

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01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: close friend and ally Israel, America's close friend and ally Israel.

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01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: And he used taxpayer money to do it. You know, Also,

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01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: did any one Democrat complain about the flexibility. Tell Vladimir listen, yeah, understanding,

1494
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: Let this molish the listener in this admis Tell Vladimir

1495
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: have a lot more flexibility after the election, and we'll

1496
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: do things that I could never tell the American people. Okay,

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01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: so we'll have a special deal. Just tell Vladimir stand down.

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01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: As if the Russians haven't tried to influence our elections before,

1499
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: well that's everyone is saying. Yeah, they have and called

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01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: me said today and they will in the future. Question

1501
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: is what are we doing to stop it? The fact

1502
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 1: that he would acknowledge that that investigation is going on,

1503
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: but not the investigation into who's leaking our intelligence? And

1504
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: why is this all of a sudden happening only since

1505
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: Donald Trump became the President of the United States? You know.

1506
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: So now you have Clapper, Admiral Rodgers, and James call

1507
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,480
Speaker 1: me all saying had no impact on the election results whatsoever,

1508
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: naming the specific states Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida,

1509
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: any impact none, zero, evidence of collusion, not one thing.

1510
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: The only thing that there We have been telling you

1511
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: for two weeks that there's an ongoing investigation. Uh, where's

1512
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: the investigation into the leakers, and why wouldn't come me

1513
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: admit that was happening. It makes absolutely no sense. This

1514
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: is what you have here is a double standard. Either

1515
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna comment on ongoing investigations or he's not going

1516
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: to comment on ongoing investigations, because the one into the

1517
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: League's into intelligence is probably more dangerous at the end

1518
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: of the day than anything else. So this started in July,

1519
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: it's eight months later. What do we have? No evidence innuendo?

1520
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: Eight months of conspiracy and Comey seems incapable of finishing

1521
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 1: any investigation, as he done with the Hillary Clinton server

1522
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: foundation hard ties to Russia which were extensive and line

1523
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: the pockets of the Clinton's personally and the Clinton Foundation.

1524
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't know the Trump got anything out of them anyway.

1525
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: One Shawn is a toll free telephone number. You want

1526
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. Uh, Dorley is

1527
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: in San Angelo, Texas. Dorley, how are you get along

1528
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: with them? You know? But then it's just like, oh man,

1529
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: what's a Doorley? It's so funny her Jeff Sessions. You've

1530
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: got to look it up anyway, But we had a

1531
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: hilarrusday laughing. Yet do I didn't. Hey, Dorley, I'm here, Yes, sir,

1532
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. You've been on for three minutes, sir, Yeah,

1533
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: who are you talking to? By the way, who are you?

1534
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my assistant, Lauren oh Man. Well, she

1535
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: was getting an air full today. All right, nut's on

1536
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: your mind, Doley? Okay, thank you? All right. What I'm

1537
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: saying is this, My concern is that when with the

1538
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: with the allegations of wire tapping. Sure most Americans can

1539
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: see that, you know, there's a lot that goes on

1540
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: we don't know about. Okay, there's a lot of things

1541
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: are going that we don't know about and that we

1542
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: may not know about. For a one time, was the

1543
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: allegations and him sitting up there and saying, no, there's

1544
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: no there's no proof of this. Well, that's a concern.

1545
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 1: The only everything else, the Russian stuff. I think everybody

1546
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,560
Speaker 1: can you know, realize that that that the Democrats have

1547
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: been very two faced on that. My only concern is

1548
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: that he's out a place of of a real place,

1549
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: a work in the road of how he's going to

1550
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: handle continuing, you know, this wire tap allegation, whether it's true,

1551
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 1: false or not. I'm not saying it is that it

1552
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: is false. But how will he continue to maintain himself

1553
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: as a president with this continually, you know, backlashing against him,

1554
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: especially from the intelligence community. Well, I mean, eventually this

1555
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: comes to an end. Eventually we get this resolved. Eventually

1556
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: they're either going to indicte somebody or the not. So.

1557
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean, but what our reporters are telling us, investigative

1558
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: reporters that I think have the best sources of anybody,

1559
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: which is why I keep putting them on, is Sarah

1560
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: Carter and John Solomon, and they're saying that this is

1561
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: gonna They're saying their sources tell them. Yes, listen, for

1562
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: two weeks I've been telling you on this program. Yes,

1563
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: there were two warrants issued. Yes there's been an investigation. No,

1564
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 1: they haven't found a single thing. And so you know,

1565
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 1: eight months later, as whom if they found it, they

1566
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: would have told us about it. All right, Dorley, go

1567
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: back to yelling at your assistant. Now, have I ever

1568
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: yelled at anybody that way? And let me tell you this,

1569
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: and let me you know, what are you asking me

1570
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: to respond to this? Have you ever yelled at anyone? Well? Never,

1571
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Maybe once or two I'm not a yeller,

1572
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: though you have to admit no, only if my computer breaks.

1573
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: Pretty much, that's the biggest thing you In some heated monologues,

1574
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: you you're yelling. In fact, I do my best to

1575
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: tick you off, just to give you the chance at

1576
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: a better monologue where you're angry. I don't think people know.

1577
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 1: I think people want answers and people want facts. I don't.

1578
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, with passion, passion is not anger.

1579
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm not an angry person. I didn't say you were

1580
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: an angry person. Just because you have a moment of

1581
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: anger doesn't mean you're an angry person. Well, I mean

1582
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: you could listen pot kettle Black talking about me, right

1583
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: about you and when you get mad, God help everybody.

1584
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: The tornado in that the tornado in that room is

1585
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: like a category whatever. I'm not shy about my temper.

1586
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm fully you were all right? Thank you? All right,

1587
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: Let's go to David and Cincinnati k r C. What's up, David?

1588
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: How are you, sir? You're you're a great American, David.

1589
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 1: I want a full report. You're a great American. Sean.

1590
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm a big fan and you're calling it

1591
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: exactly right on this. Uh wire tapping and Russian Uh,

1592
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: it's it's just mud slinging against wall. You know, they

1593
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: were they were saying, uh, we had a wire tap

1594
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: in December, and then nobody seemed to care then, So

1595
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: why why should we care now? Look, I'm just saying

1596
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: it's everything we have said here has now been proven

1597
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: in this earring today. The only thing I don't like

1598
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: about it is the length of time the media has,

1599
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 1: as usual, the only focus on the negative that they

1600
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: want about Donald Trump. Yes, there's investigation. What We've been

1601
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: saying it for two weeks. You know, they're out to

1602
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: paint him in the worst possible light, and they keep

1603
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: going back to the same dog and pony show that

1604
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: they've run out every other time. So I don't think

1605
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: the American people care at this point. I think we

1606
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: just want something to happen. When they confirmed him the

1607
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 1: loft and did anybody even vote against him, Nope, it

1608
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: was a voice vote, not a single opposition. Yeah, so

1609
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, more more just trying to throw mud and

1610
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: see what sticks and hopes that they can get. You know,

1611
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: somebody riled up about something, they have to go out

1612
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: and have another In New Yorker or Baltimore or or Ferguson,

1613
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Missouri or wherever. Well, I you know. The sad part

1614
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: is is Clapper call me Admiral Rodgers now of all

1615
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: said that there was no impact on votes in this

1616
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: election and that yeah, and they confirmed that as in

1617
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: past elections. Yeah, the Russian the Russians tried to influence

1618
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 1: the division. It is the belief of Cally that they

1619
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 1: preferred Trump over Hillary. Well, maybe they saw Hillary is

1620
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: pathetically weak and incompetent and having no clue how to

1621
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: how to manage on a world stage. There could be

1622
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: followed reasons for it. Okay, so what song the liac

1623
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: that Obama is going to leave us with? And it's

1624
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: the only thing that's gonna last. Obama's is division politics,

1625
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,799
Speaker 1: and and and not only has put it in place

1626
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 1: at the national level, it's it's at the local level.

1627
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: You see it everywhere. Now, Yeah, I agree, it's not Listen,

1628
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: it's a very divided country right now. And our job

1629
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: is to try and cut through all of this clutter

1630
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: and get you facts, news, information and frankly answers that

1631
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: are gonna help get the country back on the right path.

1632
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 1: Because we've got we've got to stop the precipitous decline.

1633
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: The last thing they want on the left is for

1634
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 1: the president to be successful and the forgotten men and

1635
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 1: women in this last election cycle. I guarantee you that

1636
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: they don't care less about this stuff because all they

1637
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: wanted their jobs. Let's get healthcare done, Let's move on

1638
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: to the economy, and and all of this can go

1639
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 1: on and it's just gonna be noise. So left wingers,

1640
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: can you know, it's clickbait and it's ratings, conspiracy, hype numbers.

1641
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: So basically what you can say about it? All? Right?

1642
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: Back our phones? Uh, Mike and Springfield in Illinois. Mike,

1643
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: how are you glad you called your on the Sean

1644
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: Hannity Show. Hey, Sean, it's great to be on the show.

1645
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: A long time listener. Yes, sir, I just wanted to

1646
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: bring up a point that nobody is bringing the f

1647
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 1: SEC in on the whole conspiracy of fake news and

1648
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: everything like that. They have investigators looking into this. You know,

1649
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do with that? If you we

1650
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 1: have freedom of speech and we have a free press,

1651
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,520
Speaker 1: and I guess that also with that freedom comes responsibility.

1652
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 1: They've chosen not to be responsible. And what we've got

1653
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,600
Speaker 1: now is, I guess we've got a press that is

1654
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: agenda driven, that poses as fair, balanced and objective. They're

1655
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: lazy and they really don't seem to have any interest

1656
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: in getting to the truth. And as I've been saying,

1657
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of lazy, ideological, overpaid liberal hacks

1658
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: that have a lot of jobs. And they they own

1659
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: most of the media. And with the exception of talk

1660
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 1: radio and blogs and the internet and and Fox News,

1661
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: that's it. They own everything else, and they just won't

1662
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 1: admit their ideological Yeah, I mean, I I understand that everything.

1663
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, with the new administration, you think they

1664
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 1: would be able to revamp the whole system. Well, I mean,

1665
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do. You're gonna say that, all right?

1666
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: If they lie that, they're gonna lose their license. I mean,

1667
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 1: you know who who's the who determines what's the truth

1668
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: and wants to lie? In their case, find them, Uh,

1669
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: hire people from each state within the union. I'll give you.

1670
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Let me give you an example. You know how they're

1671
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: all saying today the headline is oh no info, supporting

1672
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: Trump's tweet on the wire tap claim. Okay, is anyone

1673
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: anyone gonna call out the New York Times for reporting

1674
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 1: on wire tapping? Is anybody gonna call out McClatchy, Is

1675
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 1: anybody gonna call out the BBC? Is anybody gonna call

1676
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: out CNN? No, It's it's as bad as it's ever been.

1677
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 1: But you know, it's kind of what I've been saying

1678
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,600
Speaker 1: for a long time, maybe because I'm so close to it,

1679
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: is that journalism is dead. These people. The good news

1680
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: for all of us that are conservative, even if you

1681
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: follow the news, maybe not as closely as I do,

1682
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: because that's my job, because my job is to make

1683
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: sure or you get the information you need every day

1684
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: and and present it in a fun, entertaining way if

1685
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: I can. But I've seen this clear as day. It's

1686
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: so obvious, and I've been a victim of it even

1687
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: in my life. Now I think people are hip to

1688
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: how bad they are. People get it, they see it,

1689
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,799
Speaker 1: they identify it, snap their fingers, all right, that's that's bias,

1690
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: that's fake news, that's not true. And so I don't

1691
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get as far as they want to

1692
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: get with us. But we'll see over time. Alright, My

1693
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: good call appreciate it. Eight nine f one, Sean is

1694
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,879
Speaker 1: our number. You want to be a part of the program.

1695
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Ben in Colorado, Bend, We have a minute. What's up, sir?

1696
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: Hey Sean, I know you're frustrated, but I think we

1697
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: can win this. I uh, if you listen to me.

1698
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,839
Speaker 1: We Conservatives are the majority. We've always been the majority,

1699
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: and we always will. This country doesn't even vote and

1700
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: they're not fed up liberals. But since the left control

1701
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 1: of the media and the colleges and the schools, they've

1702
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: convinced this that we're split down the middle. It's a

1703
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 1: live shown we outnumber like two to one. They're the minority,

1704
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: where the majority and seconds Since with the majority, if

1705
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: we would switch from preaching conservatism to proving conservatism, we

1706
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: can win this deal. We're not going to convert any

1707
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: more on believers by arguing our case. We don't need to.

1708
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: With the majority, we've got to convince establishment Republicans that

1709
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: this country is not split fifty fifty. The Conservatives are

1710
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: the majority, and this maybe our one chance to prove it.

1711
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: We've got two or three generations that have never even

1712
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 1: experienced true conservatism, and we're gonna have to prove to

1713
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: them that it works and we've got the majority to

1714
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: do it, and you're the man. If you will preach

1715
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: this for a while, people will figure out and not

1716
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 1: fifty Ben. There's only one way to stop America's precipitous decline.

1717
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this in a mean way. People

1718
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: may take it away. It's to defeat liberalism. There are

1719
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: too many. What frustrates me right now when I hold

1720
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:57,759
Speaker 1: these Republicans accountable, they seem ill prepared for this moment.

1721
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: The President seems prepared so far. He's checking off his

1722
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: list of promises that to me, we're gonna actually make

1723
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 1: on my website all the promises Trump made in a campaign.

1724
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna put checks next to all the ones he keeps,

1725
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: and we're gonna hold them accountable, and we're gonna hold

1726
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 1: Congress accountable too, and then we'll put their checklist up there.

1727
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, if if they

1728
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: would have been more prepared, everything could be that much easier.

1729
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: We could have passed healthcare and moved on already. By

1730
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: this point,