WEBVTT - We're Gonna Need a Bigger Boat

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna need a bigger boat. It's one more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one more thing. That is a quote from the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Jaws, back when we used to make American movies,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll start making again now with a new one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent tariff on foreign films, make fake sharks great again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably in your pantheon of like your top, if

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<v Speaker 2>not ten, top twenty all time recognizable movie quotes, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>it true, gonna need a bigger boat. Yeah, yeah, Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought this was at least mildly interesting. Michael is

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<v Speaker 2>just back from a trip to the shore, correct, Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>that is correct. Yeah, yeah, the Mighty Pacific where the

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<v Speaker 2>Great White haunts the depths and choose on seals, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The wife and I just wanted to escape, and we

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to get into nature. So that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 3>We go out to the ocean and just sit there

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<v Speaker 3>on the coast.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever do any tide pooling.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done that once or twice, but generally I just,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just sit there and just relax, close the eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>My youngest son especially loves the whole pide pooling thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Judy and I we both love it. We've for

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<v Speaker 2>years and years and years since we first got married. Anytime,

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<v Speaker 2>we're especially at the Pacific Ocean because it's much rockier

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<v Speaker 2>than the Atlantic, which mostly just sand, which is great.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like beaches and the water is warmer, but

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<v Speaker 2>the rocky inlets and stuff of the Pacific are just

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<v Speaker 2>dream come true. If you're into tide pulling. The number

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<v Speaker 2>of fascinating little creatures you can observe. If you're into

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing, it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So read Steinbeck's Cannery Road to learn more.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I don't. I think I read that in

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<v Speaker 2>high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, another one of those books you should read

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<v Speaker 1>when you're older.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, you're like, Okay, he's angsty and wants that

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<v Speaker 2>they have a different life. There's something I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we go chase girls and try to get beer?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of the sea shore and sharks, is there

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<v Speaker 2>any phenomenon in human life that gets more attention relative

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<v Speaker 2>to its actual significance than shark attacks? Winning the lottery?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe? I mean, like anything, I don't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's even close. There's no significance to a shark attack

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<v Speaker 1>really winning the lottery there, there's some human element, story,

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<v Speaker 1>the way people handle it and stuff that you could

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could do write long papers about. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to a shark attack. It's very, very rare. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole story is in one sentence, you got by a

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<v Speaker 1>shark and died.

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<v Speaker 2>Or survived. It sucks hard if you are the bye tea.

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<v Speaker 2>Lord knows, but I mean incredibly all Lord, it's so

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly infrequent, but we spend a lot of time thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about it and talking about it and reporting out it on.

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<v Speaker 1>The news and that sort of thing. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any fear of that. I've never worried about it once

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<v Speaker 1>in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit, A little bit I did as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from Kansas and didn't see the ocean until I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty. That's part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I would say, you don't get to brag

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<v Speaker 2>about your courage. And Judy and I spend a fair

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time on the Atlantic coast these days, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't worry about it, but I'm aware of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But generally it's somebody. Shark nips at somebody to see

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<v Speaker 2>what they are and think. So God that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>seal air and moves on. It's fatalities are very very rare.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if you got blood rushing out of

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<v Speaker 2>your lower leg, that's a long day. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a long, unpleasant day. Having said that, I

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<v Speaker 2>read this entire article about how they're coming up with

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<v Speaker 2>suits for people who are in the ocean of fair amount, surfers, divers,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever that use LED lights on the suit, just one here,

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<v Speaker 2>one there, one air and it disrupts the silhouette of

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<v Speaker 2>an objecked like a surfer for instance, or seal decoys,

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<v Speaker 2>which is how they're trying to figure out if this

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<v Speaker 2>works or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But the shark is trying to figure out what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you break up the silhouette of it so

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<v Speaker 2>it appears to be a couple of different things by

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<v Speaker 2>having an LED light right in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 2>the shark's like it, I don't know what that is,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's sure not a seal, and it moves on.

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<v Speaker 2>So they think the greatest shark attack avoidance mechanism or

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<v Speaker 2>method they've ever come up with, these little LED lights

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<v Speaker 2>that just confuse the shark's eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, doesn't that put a skip in my step that

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<v Speaker 1>they've eliminated one of the one in a billion ways

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<v Speaker 1>that I could die the most likely.

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<v Speaker 2>Spend your time in the ocean. No, no, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to play the hard ass here.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get to Can you come and put anything

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<v Speaker 1>with like heart disease or car rex or anything that

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<v Speaker 1>might get me? Ooh, guy got et by a bear

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. And where was it? It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of your eastern states?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, him and his dog too fluffy anyway, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The dog didn't occupy the bear long enough that he

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<v Speaker 1>could get away, or maybe he wasn't that kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hurling my dog at the bear and run.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, wow, I'm running.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in a hierarchy. You know, my family needs

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<v Speaker 1>me more than you. Pop occupy this bear while I

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<v Speaker 1>get in feats don't fail me? Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it takes a certain kind of guy to

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<v Speaker 2>admit that out loud, But you're one hundred percent ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Heck yeah, I mean if I were to and I

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<v Speaker 2>can barely make these words come out of my mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>if Judy and I are hiking.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna shove Judy at the bear.

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<v Speaker 2>With our dog oh, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking of the same thing, and I hurl.

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<v Speaker 2>I was pausing for effect, let me do my art,

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<v Speaker 2>and I heard a hurl poor Baxter at the bear.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I find that so repugnant I can

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<v Speaker 2>bury it in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, this kid. This came up just the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was I with? And they thought it was horrific

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<v Speaker 1>that I said that. To me, it's just like her

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<v Speaker 1>percent the obvious choice. I got two kids I got

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of and support. Hmm, I'm not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, whoever was who was I with? But they said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, I would protect the dog. I'd probably get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well, this reminds me this might be like

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate test of something I like to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, which is how there are certain people

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<v Speaker 2>who are willing to deal with unpleasant adult realities. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to remember of a good example of an

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<v Speaker 2>issue that I've talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get certain.

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<v Speaker 2>People who say we've got to do something, and you say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to work. It's a waste of money

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<v Speaker 2>and it's abusive to the taxpayers. But we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>do something, you know, okay, Well, unless you can come

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<v Speaker 2>up with something smart, we're not going to do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Those people have to figure it out for themselves. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you willing to confront unpleasant reality or not? If the

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<v Speaker 2>answer is not, if you are not willing to admit

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<v Speaker 2>you would hurl your dog at thet a bear's hungry jaws.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna lob him high in the air to even

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<v Speaker 1>give myself more time, right off I go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, a trick employed by many A brother, perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>while playing rough with his other brothers, Sure tosses the

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<v Speaker 2>ball a little high in the air, then belly tackles

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<v Speaker 2>his brother while he's looking up it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are not willing to admit you would hurl

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<v Speaker 2>your dog at the bear, you cannot be in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I might yell thank you, pop pup. I'll remember you

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<v Speaker 1>over my shoulder as I run. You're a good dog.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a good dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, yeah, okay, anyway, where were we? I guess

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<v Speaker 2>we probably did enough of the shark attack thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I find it interesting that somebody had this idea

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<v Speaker 2>and it actually works.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. It'll probably become very standard. It might be the

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<v Speaker 1>end of a shark attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder, Yeah, put them on the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>surfboards and all, because a surfboard with like a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of hands paddling looks just like a seal.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you, Michael, you're at the beach with your wife. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting on the beach, you said. But yeah, were

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<v Speaker 1>you literally just sitting there, like staring out at the water,

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<v Speaker 1>or were you reading or listening to music or.

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<v Speaker 3>Just sitting there and we were just talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, talking amongst yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, you know, she wants me to and when she

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<v Speaker 3>gets cremated to put her ashes around you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>coast and stuff like that. So I asked her, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>where would you like? So we were trying to decide

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<v Speaker 3>on spots.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, she'll murder you long before that's necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty young for that conversation. I'd be a little concerned that.

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<v Speaker 3>She's oh, no, up, Yeah, she's doing fine. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, she was thinking about it, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I asked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could sit there and watch the waves for

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<v Speaker 2>an hour without the slightest boredom.

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<v Speaker 1>I could do it right now. I don't know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna what if you miss a TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Lord, drown him. Drown him right now. He's feeding

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<v Speaker 2>dogs to bears. He's scrolling through TikTok and Nature's wonders.

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<v Speaker 1>A monster, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>The wife and I were at the State Fair and

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<v Speaker 3>a carnee approached me, and so I grabbed my wife

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<v Speaker 3>and pulled it right in front of me so she

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<v Speaker 3>could engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>You did, well, I guess that's it.