1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna need a bigger boat. It's one more thing. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm one more thing. That is a quote from the 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: movie Jaws, back when we used to make American movies, 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: which we'll start making again now with a new one 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: hundred percent tariff on foreign films, make fake sharks great again. 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: That's probably in your pantheon of like your top, if 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: not ten, top twenty all time recognizable movie quotes, isn't 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: it true, gonna need a bigger boat. Yeah, yeah, Anyway, 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: I thought this was at least mildly interesting. Michael is 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: just back from a trip to the shore, correct, Michael, 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: that is correct. Yeah, yeah, the Mighty Pacific where the 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: Great White haunts the depths and choose on seals, et cetera. 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: The wife and I just wanted to escape, and we 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: wanted to get into nature. So that's what we do. 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: We go out to the ocean and just sit there 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: on the coast. 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: You know. 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Yep. 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Do you ever do any tide pooling. 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: I've done that once or twice, but generally I just, 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: you know, just sit there and just relax, close the eyes. 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: My youngest son especially loves the whole pide pooling thing. 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? Yeah? 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Judy and I we both love it. We've for 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: years and years and years since we first got married. Anytime, 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: we're especially at the Pacific Ocean because it's much rockier 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: than the Atlantic, which mostly just sand, which is great. 29 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: I feel like beaches and the water is warmer, but 30 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: the rocky inlets and stuff of the Pacific are just 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: dream come true. If you're into tide pulling. The number 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: of fascinating little creatures you can observe. If you're into 33 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: that sort of thing, it's really cool. 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: So read Steinbeck's Cannery Road to learn more. 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't. I think I read that in 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: high school. 37 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, another one of those books you should read 38 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: when you're older. 39 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you're like, Okay, he's angsty and wants that 40 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: they have a different life. There's something I don't know. 41 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: Can we go chase girls and try to get beer? 42 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Anyway? 43 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: So, speaking of the sea shore and sharks, is there 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: any phenomenon in human life that gets more attention relative 45 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: to its actual significance than shark attacks? Winning the lottery? 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: Maybe? I mean, like anything, I don't. I don't think 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: that's even close. There's no significance to a shark attack 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: really winning the lottery there, there's some human element, story, 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: the way people handle it and stuff that you could 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, you could do write long papers about. There's 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: nothing to a shark attack. It's very, very rare. The 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: whole story is in one sentence, you got by a 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: shark and died. 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: Or survived. It sucks hard if you are the bye tea. 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Lord knows, but I mean incredibly all Lord, it's so 56 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: incredibly infrequent, but we spend a lot of time thinking 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: about it and talking about it and reporting out it on. 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: The news and that sort of thing. Do you have 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: any fear of that. I've never worried about it once 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: in my life. 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: A little bit, A little bit I did as a kid. 62 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm from Kansas and didn't see the ocean until I 63 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: was twenty. That's part of it. 64 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I would say, you don't get to brag 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: about your courage. And Judy and I spend a fair 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 2: amount of time on the Atlantic coast these days, and 67 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: I don't worry about it, but I'm aware of it. 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: But generally it's somebody. Shark nips at somebody to see 69 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: what they are and think. So God that's not a 70 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: seal air and moves on. It's fatalities are very very rare. 71 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: But you know, if you got blood rushing out of 72 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 2: your lower leg, that's a long day. I mean, you're 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: gonna have a long, unpleasant day. Having said that, I 74 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: read this entire article about how they're coming up with 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: suits for people who are in the ocean of fair amount, surfers, divers, 76 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: whatever that use LED lights on the suit, just one here, 77 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: one there, one air and it disrupts the silhouette of 78 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: an objecked like a surfer for instance, or seal decoys, 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: which is how they're trying to figure out if this 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: works or not. 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: But the shark is trying to figure out what that is. 82 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: And if you break up the silhouette of it so 83 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: it appears to be a couple of different things by 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: having an LED light right in the middle of it, 85 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: the shark's like it, I don't know what that is, 86 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: but it's sure not a seal, and it moves on. 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: So they think the greatest shark attack avoidance mechanism or 88 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: method they've ever come up with, these little LED lights 89 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: that just confuse the shark's eyes. 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Well, doesn't that put a skip in my step that 91 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: they've eliminated one of the one in a billion ways 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: that I could die the most likely. 93 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: Spend your time in the ocean. No, no, you don't 94 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: get to play the hard ass here. 95 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: You don't get to Can you come and put anything 96 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: with like heart disease or car rex or anything that 97 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: might get me? Ooh, guy got et by a bear 98 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: the other day. And where was it? It was one 99 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: of your eastern states? 100 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, him and his dog too fluffy anyway, So I 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: don't know. 102 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: The dog didn't occupy the bear long enough that he 103 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: could get away, or maybe he wasn't that kind of guy. 104 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm hurling my dog at the bear and run. 105 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, I'm running. 106 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: I believe in a hierarchy. You know, my family needs 107 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: me more than you. Pop occupy this bear while I 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: get in feats don't fail me? Now. 109 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: You know it takes a certain kind of guy to 110 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: admit that out loud, But you're one hundred percent ride. 111 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: Heck yeah, I mean if I were to and I 112 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: can barely make these words come out of my mouth, 113 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: if Judy and I are hiking. 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna shove Judy at the bear. 115 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: With our dog oh, I was. 116 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: Thinking of the same thing, and I hurl. 117 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: I was pausing for effect, let me do my art, 118 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: and I heard a hurl poor Baxter at the bear. 119 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I find that so repugnant I can 120 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: bury it in my mouth. 121 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: It's interesting, this kid. This came up just the other day. 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Who was I with? And they thought it was horrific 123 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: that I said that. To me, it's just like her 124 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: percent the obvious choice. I got two kids I got 125 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: to take care of and support. Hmm, I'm not you know, 126 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: they say, whoever was who was I with? But they said, 127 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: oh no, I would protect the dog. I'd probably get it. 128 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: You're nuts. 129 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, this reminds me this might be like 130 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: the ultimate test of something I like to talk about 131 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: on the show, which is how there are certain people 132 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: who are willing to deal with unpleasant adult realities. And 133 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember of a good example of an 134 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: issue that I've talked about this before. 135 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: But you get certain. 136 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: People who say we've got to do something, and you say, well, 137 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: that's not going to work. It's a waste of money 138 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: and it's abusive to the taxpayers. But we've got to 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: do something, you know, okay, Well, unless you can come 140 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: up with something smart, we're not going to do anything. 141 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: Those people have to figure it out for themselves. Are 142 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: you willing to confront unpleasant reality or not? If the 143 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: answer is not, if you are not willing to admit 144 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: you would hurl your dog at thet a bear's hungry jaws. 145 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lob him high in the air to even 146 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: give myself more time, right off I go? 147 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, a trick employed by many A brother, perhaps 148 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: while playing rough with his other brothers, Sure tosses the 149 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: ball a little high in the air, then belly tackles 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: his brother while he's looking up it. 151 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's exactly right. 152 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: If you are not willing to admit you would hurl 153 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: your dog at the bear, you cannot be in charge 154 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: of anything. 155 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: I might yell thank you, pop pup. I'll remember you 156 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: over my shoulder as I run. You're a good dog. 157 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: We're a good dog. 158 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, okay, anyway, where were we? I guess 159 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: we probably did enough of the shark attack thing. I 160 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: just I find it interesting that somebody had this idea 161 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: and it actually works. 162 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Cool. It'll probably become very standard. It might be the 163 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: end of a shark attack. 164 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, Yeah, put them on the bottom of 165 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 2: surfboards and all, because a surfboard with like a couple 166 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: of hands paddling looks just like a seal. 167 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Do you, Michael, you're at the beach with your wife. Yeah, 168 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: just sitting on the beach, you said. But yeah, were 169 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you literally just sitting there, like staring out at the water, 170 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: or were you reading or listening to music or. 171 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: Just sitting there and we were just talking. 172 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: Okay, talking amongst yourself. 173 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: We were talking. 174 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: Actually, you know, she wants me to and when she 175 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 3: gets cremated to put her ashes around you know, the 176 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: coast and stuff like that. So I asked her, you know, 177 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: where would you like? So we were trying to decide 178 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: on spots. 179 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: Actually, she'll murder you long before that's necessary. 180 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Pretty young for that conversation. I'd be a little concerned that. 181 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: She's oh, no, up, Yeah, she's doing fine. But it's 182 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: just you know, she was thinking about it, and so 183 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: I asked. 184 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could sit there and watch the waves for 185 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: an hour without the slightest boredom. 186 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I could do it right now. I don't know, I'm 187 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna what if you miss a TikTok. 188 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh, Lord, drown him. Drown him right now. He's feeding 189 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: dogs to bears. He's scrolling through TikTok and Nature's wonders. 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: A monster, you know. 191 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: The wife and I were at the State Fair and 192 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: a carnee approached me, and so I grabbed my wife 193 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: and pulled it right in front of me so she 194 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: could engaged. 195 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: You did, well, I guess that's it.