Speaker 1: It's Lama owe him check me on the Bootleg Cat podcast.
Speaker 2: All right, you know Bootleg Cat Podcast. Man special guests
Speaker 2: in here this time not eating a bag of candy,
Speaker 2: thank god, lamar Odem. I want you to introduce us
Speaker 2: to your boy here, Zach.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is my man, Zach Hurst. We got the
Speaker 1: podcasting going on, keeping up with sports. It's kind of
Speaker 1: but I guess, I guess.
Speaker 2: Not the greatest name, not the most original name.
Speaker 3: It might be the greatest name. It's getting a lot
Speaker 3: of attention, and.
Speaker 2: It's getting a lot of get a shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Caitlyn on it, So I guess you
Speaker 1: could kind of ride that way. But I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: went with that if it was up to me.
Speaker 2: But who approached you guys? Because obviously you've known Caitlyn's
Speaker 2: and Caitlyn and Bruce, so you go back, way back
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 1: So you know, the entertainment world is small, So if
Speaker 1: you know, if the entertainment world is small, so if
Speaker 1: you know one person, you know ten.
Speaker 2: Was it like an old family reunion, like you guys
Speaker 2: coming together and yeah, me and Kayle Yeah once family,
Speaker 2: always family. Yeah, what was the initial like chat? Was
Speaker 2: it like How's how the how's Chloe gonna feel about this?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: How's like that? Like, do you know how Chloe feels
Speaker 2: about I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's closer to Chloe. No, she she's closer to Chloe
Speaker 1: at this point in time. And I am right, so
Speaker 1: I don't know. But you know, is that the thing?
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you had to like kind of
Speaker 2: just out of respect, be like a heads up we're
Speaker 2: gonna do this thing.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm pretty sure she dealt with that, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Chloe got a heads up.
Speaker 2: Chloe got her heads up? What's your just.
Speaker 3: Got brought up? Through? If I think I'm the one
Speaker 3: who kind of links it, you know, I'm a sports guy,
Speaker 3: so through and through you played sports, No, I love.
Speaker 3: I've been analyzing sports since I was a little kid.
Speaker 3: I'm somewhat say the best ever with the handicapping, you know,
Speaker 3: the bets and never you're a gambler. Helped the gamblers,
Speaker 3: help the gamblers, and I got to show what pac
Speaker 3: Man Jones and you got you gotta hook me up
Speaker 3: with b I helped the gamblers.
Speaker 2: Oh so you sell your picks?
Speaker 3: I was giving them for free. That was the but
Speaker 3: that's your thing. You got picks, I got picks.
Speaker 1: Do you think you can help me with marshmallows?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let it ride, though, I'm gonna go heavy.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, you've had your history with gambling. You probably
Speaker 2: should steal. Yeah, you Mark, do you think but if
Speaker 2: you were playing in today's sport and you were in
Speaker 2: the mental space you were in like the second half
Speaker 2: of your career, do you think you would have sucked
Speaker 2: around and bet on your own games if you thought
Speaker 2: you could get away with it back then.
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy that you that you brought that up,
Speaker 1: because the twelve year old lam Oldham that was going
Speaker 1: to the park throwing winning touchdown passes, it were he
Speaker 1: would cry if he saw today's ESPN games coming up
Speaker 1: and then saw the.
Speaker 2: Line it's like the game and then yeah.
Speaker 1: This spread underneath the game, right, because by the way,
Speaker 1: if he were spreads, god bless you. I didn't. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I was twenty, I'm a little older now
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I feel like it all comes back
Speaker 1: to the money, right.
Speaker 2: It would just been so hard, not like like there's
Speaker 2: a guy in the raptors who just yeah, Porter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that he's in trouble. Okay, So now.
Speaker 3: He'd ald discord and everything for like his like crypto
Speaker 3: plugs and like he was known as like a guy
Speaker 3: giving out trades, so it makes sense he was doing this.
Speaker 3: He was telling he faked an eye injury.
Speaker 2: I guess he faked an injury and it was the
Speaker 2: number one like betted the thing of the days, a
Speaker 2: random bench.
Speaker 1: Warm the league knowing that, right, I think that kind
Speaker 1: of lets you know that they kind of that's kind
Speaker 1: of like their red light to all the players, like
Speaker 1: we kind of know what y'all might be doing. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna get somebody that's on the low totem pole
Speaker 1: and all of y'all probably need to stop it right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because someone's gonna get He's gonna be made the example, right, Oh,
Speaker 2: he's the example.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can't make somebody who's like.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna make you know what I'm saying, whoever,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: What, even if it's a good bro player, like this
Speaker 2: guy's a no, but that's know who this guy is, God.
Speaker 1: Bless, so let me let's chop his head off.
Speaker 3: Is Michael Porter's brother, That's all but let's chop his
Speaker 3: head off, give him the Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 1: Uh, and then for Calvin Ridley, because come on, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you'll bron James, right, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to bet on myself that I'm gonna get twenty five.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bust these motherfucker's ass right. I can't do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you could do that, the coaches do.
Speaker 3: Who else?
Speaker 2: I don't think the refs. The refs can't do right,
Speaker 2: they legally they can't.
Speaker 1: You know, well, whoever get bet on the game legally,
Speaker 1: believe me, is betting on it. Just kind of like
Speaker 1: just hit me like like two years ago. So you
Speaker 1: and I'm watching the I'm like, hold on, they got
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It kind of fucked me up because.
Speaker 2: Because you could, Like my thing is is if I
Speaker 2: was like a mid tier NBA player at least if
Speaker 2: I was getting like twenty minutes a game, you tell
Speaker 2: like you know, your closest cousins to make.
Speaker 3: The bet, like you don't make the bet. No, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess he was telling like people to make the
Speaker 3: bet a little discord group or whatever. But obviously Johntay
Speaker 3: Porter isn't getting more action on his bets normally than steps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a red flash.
Speaker 3: Me idiately, they were like on the phone tracing that back.
Speaker 1: I just hope that in today's game that they landing
Speaker 1: the players.
Speaker 3: Decide the game. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all I really want to say about sports. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Would you be betting on yourself if if you were
Speaker 2: playing right now, you think you'd figure out?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the only way I would bet.
Speaker 1: I would never bet against my team. I love the integrity, But.
Speaker 2: You bet on your assessor rebounds.
Speaker 1: That would make sense because I mean, yeah, I bet.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't like fake an injury and bet on success. Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go off tonight.
Speaker 1: It's like we all know, it's like this world is
Speaker 1: like it's so money driven, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, uh it's ware. Does it stop?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Especially the player props is the crazy ship,
Speaker 2: because it's like you could chase down rebounds.
Speaker 3: You can, like you could even if you were like
Speaker 3: betting the.
Speaker 2: Over on your teammate, you could even like make sure
Speaker 2: he gets the rebounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally, this is like that's kind of like double
Speaker 1: down and on yourself. If it was corporate America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what Pete Rose did. He bet
Speaker 3: on his own team to win. He's not even in
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. He's the most hits ever.
Speaker 2: Blasphemy. The fact Barry Bonds isn't in the Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame is crazy.
Speaker 3: A whole different can of worms. But yeah, that is crazy.
Speaker 2: Different different circumstances obviously.
Speaker 3: But the pitchers were on steroids too, so everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, like, nobody people approached me to know,
Speaker 1: like mobster, Like I know a lot of people like
Speaker 1: growing up, do.
Speaker 2: You think, well, I know back in the day, that
Speaker 2: was like a thing in like in certain like collegiate sports.
Speaker 3: I think a s U.
Speaker 2: There was a big controversy with Arizona State back in
Speaker 2: the day where they were doing point shaving, which so
Speaker 2: nobody knew you knew people who got approached. It's crazy,
Speaker 2: like how different the game is now, not even the game,
Speaker 2: just the financial landscape from when you were coming up,
Speaker 2: like like that, the nil deals and all the money
Speaker 2: that's out there for college.
Speaker 1: Sports now totally different. They're sharing it.
Speaker 2: It's like, if you're a top tier women's collegiate basketball player,
Speaker 2: it would move you to join the w NBA any
Speaker 2: sooner than you need to because you're going to make
Speaker 2: more money.
Speaker 1: Deal, Kaitlyn Clark should probably lose money when she goes
Speaker 1: to w NBA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she'll still be big, but yeah, she
Speaker 3: might get a sneaker deal though. Yeah, she'll do a
Speaker 3: sneaker deal. She might be the first. They'll probably put
Speaker 3: her in the three point contest too, like they just
Speaker 3: did it with Sabrina mm hmm. She'll get the red
Speaker 3: carpet rolled out.
Speaker 2: She's special, like Angel, what's your name?
Speaker 1: Angel?
Speaker 2: She should just stay as long as she can. Y.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kaitlyn Clark Q is incredible.
Speaker 2: She's good. She made people.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, bro, I don't mean she'll dominate.
Speaker 2: It's very hard for me to care about women's basketball.
Speaker 3: Like women's basketball.
Speaker 1: It's like if you watch women's basketball, like love the game.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, listen, I was listening dunk Listen. I'd
Speaker 2: like to point out I'd like to finish. List Listen
Speaker 2: when I was a little kid and the w n
Speaker 2: b A debuted and it was like a Liberty and
Speaker 2: Rebecca Lobo and Leslie what's Lisa? Leslie and Cheryl swoops
Speaker 2: on the commets and all that.
Speaker 3: It was all right, but.
Speaker 2: Again, no dunking. It's all fund man, It's like watching
Speaker 2: the Spurs play the Spurs.
Speaker 3: Fundamental.
Speaker 1: American basketball needs that. I think that's why they embrace
Speaker 1: it right now too, because it's so different from the NBA.
Speaker 3: It is different.
Speaker 1: NBA ain't playing Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also like it's also not a coincidence that
Speaker 2: corner all the best players are European.
Speaker 1: Now, not all of the best players, but they have
Speaker 1: a lot of They have good European players.
Speaker 2: I mean, Giannis Embiid, Luca Luca. I mean it's it's
Speaker 2: pretty top heavy. If you look at like the top five.
Speaker 3: This is like, who do you think would win between
Speaker 3: like Team World versus tam.
Speaker 2: USA starting five, verse starting five.
Speaker 3: Twelve man, you know, like a full lineup. Team World
Speaker 3: might have that Lucas point No, Lucas a point guard.
Speaker 2: Okay, you got and Embiid.
Speaker 3: And playing on Team us.
Speaker 2: A no oh no no, but he's he's not.
Speaker 3: From Cameroon though.
Speaker 2: Okay, the World. You said, hey, I guess you would be.
Speaker 1: Do you go to high school That's where school Jannis
Speaker 1: played were playing from from Greece.
Speaker 2: Shake Gillis Alexander FROMNTO. Yeah, that's what I'm saying a
Speaker 2: lot of people.
Speaker 3: But that's the best I've ever been international.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like do you feel like because when
Speaker 2: you were playing, like if all the Europeans were like
Speaker 2: kind of perceived to be like soft as fuck, Like
Speaker 2: you know, there was like page Sto Jakovic like, uh, the.
Speaker 1: Rules changed, I can't put your hands on the player
Speaker 1: as much as but.
Speaker 2: You had kind of like some finesse to your game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played hard. I played hard. I came in
Speaker 1: the game, you know as beating guys off the dribble. Yeah,
Speaker 1: using my hand, on my natural ability hand. I was slim,
Speaker 1: trying to be slick, you know, but I ended up
Speaker 1: being like a defensive, rebounding power forward.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think if it was like a point forward,
Speaker 2: you were definitely point forward to ish you were like
Speaker 2: ahead of your time a bit to be honest, so
Speaker 2: long they.
Speaker 3: Probably let you bring the ball up. Now I brought
Speaker 3: it up for the Lakers. More seems so long unless
Speaker 3: I am bringing.
Speaker 2: Up I mean ship the Sons my team, we don't
Speaker 2: even have a point guard, so no Jesus, then we're
Speaker 2: doing the other.
Speaker 3: Day to the Spurs.
Speaker 2: I watched us. Yes we are when you see my
Speaker 2: I mean, do you watch basketball like a lot?
Speaker 1: Still, what do you think?
Speaker 2: What do you think is wrong with the Suns? Besides
Speaker 2: we don't have a point guard and Frank Vogels an
Speaker 2: okay coach?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with all the NBA teams? I have no
Speaker 1: offensive orchestration.
Speaker 2: It's just like IO ball, especially the songs. It's just crazy.
Speaker 2: It's like everyone takes their turn random basketball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ugly to me.
Speaker 2: You guys are running like at least you guys running
Speaker 2: like the triangles.
Speaker 1: A little bit more structure. And we had a nut
Speaker 1: on our team. I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Who is the nut?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I gotta ask who the nut was. You guys also
Speaker 2: had run our test on the team, so we got.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, you know, but you want to have
Speaker 1: some kind of offensive flow, get out. You can't just
Speaker 1: NBA everybody played the same way. Pick and roll, pick
Speaker 1: and roll with the best player.
Speaker 2: And then from there, I hope there's there's a shooter
Speaker 2: in the corner, but.
Speaker 1: He dribbles the ball probably to the time he's running out.
Speaker 1: Then he passed it to a guy and not as
Speaker 1: good as him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the time run out for a shot, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But he's not as good
Speaker 3: as a statue, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But because the best player is going to focustrate the play,
Speaker 1: so he's going to melt the block, that's not as good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with time running down, it don't make sense to me.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 2: Devin Booker will dribble the ball it's like eight seconds
Speaker 2: and then make his move and then Josha Kogie hits
Speaker 2: a second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So it was just like, come down to who's going
Speaker 1: to decide to play?
Speaker 2: Why do you think like the triangle wasn't ever really
Speaker 2: like like it doesn't feel like it's It was such
Speaker 2: an important part of the game for so long, like decades,
Speaker 2: and it feels like it's obviously faced its way out
Speaker 2: in terms.
Speaker 1: Of because people they don't want to run it, they
Speaker 1: don't want to order you know what I'm saying. At fifteen,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, they still got thirty Yeah,
Speaker 1: got ten championships. I don't I don't know why people
Speaker 1: away from success. As soon as I get a coaching job,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I'm running.
Speaker 3: You want to try to kill Jackson?
Speaker 1: I know the game in and out. Yeah, yo, best
Speaker 1: player to the six man?
Speaker 3: Would you coach women's.
Speaker 1: Because I know they'll listen more, especially when it comes
Speaker 1: to the triangle.
Speaker 3: That'd be dope because.
Speaker 1: Kobe was big on women's basketball for.
Speaker 2: Sure, for sure, for sure. No, I think, uh women's
Speaker 2: basketball is we're talking about how bad this year's draft
Speaker 2: is going to be for the men? No one, like,
Speaker 2: no one's talking about men's collegiate sports at all. I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously it's March Madness, so it's a little different, but
Speaker 2: it's not like the buzzes.
Speaker 3: It's because the team's not because the players, right.
Speaker 2: The buzz is not like there's not like a Zion.
Speaker 3: This year, Like we had Zion versus Taco Fall, Like
Speaker 3: that was did Cam Reddish to R J Barrett? There
Speaker 3: was real start at the Taco Fall?
Speaker 2: Man, where's he at China?
Speaker 1: You're playing somewhere.
Speaker 3: He was on the Celtics, but he's not there.
Speaker 2: You ended your career the last time you played professionally
Speaker 2: was it in China?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 3: Spain? Spain what was that like Victoria?
Speaker 1: It was dope.
Speaker 2: Did pal Gasol like put you on like to all
Speaker 2: the starts, get you situated out there, fucking Spanish mafia.
Speaker 1: Make sure it was in Victoria, Spain. It was cool.
Speaker 1: It was different. I like being.
Speaker 3: Abroad.
Speaker 1: It made me kind of kind of had like a
Speaker 1: collegiate feel, right, you know what I'm saying to me.
Speaker 2: Almost like you're living is like your do it's like
Speaker 2: some dorm type ship. Yeah, you know you're not gonna
Speaker 2: be there that long.
Speaker 1: Like and I was just I just stayed at the
Speaker 1: hotel and made some friends and connections. They had my
Speaker 1: face on on a mural where it blew my mind
Speaker 1: with Charles Walkley, Michael Jordan and myself, and I was like,
Speaker 1: why the why the fun they put me on the
Speaker 1: with the But it was it was in Victoria.
Speaker 2: I knew here.
Speaker 1: That it was crazy. But the people, the people with Dope,
Speaker 1: not me Overseas like they go crazy at the games
Speaker 1: for sure, like they they really really do.
Speaker 2: They treat like Ricky Rubio like a fucking god out there,
Speaker 2: like like I feel like there's like.
Speaker 3: Well they.
Speaker 1: They appetite for the game is different, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean like they might a backdoor bounce pass.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Their sports there're sports that are top ten just all passes.
Speaker 1: But that's American basketball. That's what I think we're missing, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, how they grow up.
Speaker 2: The ship is kind of ruining like a lot of
Speaker 2: the culture. Like for I feel like it removes the
Speaker 2: fun aspect of its out of kid's lives pretty quick
Speaker 2: because it's.
Speaker 1: Well, I haven't you know, it's so great. I haven't
Speaker 1: really been around you know, AAU for years, but I
Speaker 1: could imagine the the business. It's a business that's taking place,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's not I feel like
Speaker 1: it's not about the kids. Like you figure, if you've
Speaker 1: got a a Blue Chipper in today's market, that's anywhere
Speaker 1: between two hundred to five hundred thousand dollars before he
Speaker 1: gets in school, crazy.
Speaker 2: Before he even picks a college.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then it's and then it's in il deal because
Speaker 1: every if that's my son, I know how much y'are
Speaker 1: about to make of my son. Because when I was
Speaker 1: coming out, you knew a guy like you know, my
Speaker 1: caliber high school All American was going to get a
Speaker 1: hundred hundred fifty thousand.
Speaker 3: Dollars no matter what.
Speaker 2: It's like the worst kept secret.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, if you ask for it, if you think
Speaker 1: about what the school is going to make of you,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean I look at like we're having Retchie Bush,
Speaker 2: like losing his heisman.
Speaker 3: That's bullshit.
Speaker 2: One of the greatest seasons ever. They found out retroactively
Speaker 2: that he took money. But now it's legal. They took
Speaker 2: his fucking heisman.
Speaker 1: We're talking about, like, but now they wouldn't do it now,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't take it, right, because that's crazy.
Speaker 3: They just took They should give it back. How do
Speaker 3: they not give it back?
Speaker 2: What was that process like for you being so big
Speaker 2: coming out of high school, like making the decision what
Speaker 2: you were going to do. You know, I'm sure you
Speaker 2: were being recruited by every college possible. What were some
Speaker 2: of the crazier visits you got in terms of like
Speaker 2: did you have like fucking coach k pull up to
Speaker 2: your fucking crib and queens or anything crazy like that?
Speaker 1: Oh, Jerry Tarkany and pulled up to my crib and
Speaker 1: queen and that had been crazy running rebels. He was on,
Speaker 1: he was on, he was at Fresno State. He was
Speaker 1: with my man, Rob Johnson. Shout out to Rob Johnson
Speaker 1: and he he made me promise. I made me promises
Speaker 1: him that I would visit Fresnel State.
Speaker 2: Phones wrapping. The first interview was the back of candy,
Speaker 2: this time.
Speaker 3: The phone and.
Speaker 1: I didn't and I think I did when I didn't
Speaker 1: visit Presnel State. I think that's what made him blow
Speaker 1: the whistle, say I cheated on can rest in peace,
Speaker 1: God bless her. So so you cheated on your es
Speaker 1: at as they said, I'm six ten in black. I
Speaker 1: don't know how I cheated, but.
Speaker 2: I don't understand the correlation there.
Speaker 1: I think they compared the handwriting until my grade point
Speaker 1: average and to what to do?
Speaker 3: Guys, So what actually happened?
Speaker 2: I think you're past any sort of Did someone do
Speaker 2: the test for you?
Speaker 1: Did you like the bad decision?
Speaker 2: I could have did it myself, somebody who trusted obviously,
Speaker 2: what was it?
Speaker 3: A girl?
Speaker 1: I have no idea, because.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, girl's handwriting. You know something about a
Speaker 2: woman's handwriting, and you see it and you're like, a
Speaker 2: girl wrote that.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Damn, But did she do well?
Speaker 1: Did too well?
Speaker 3: Too well?
Speaker 1: Clearly compared to.
Speaker 2: It's almost like the gambling props. Yeah, it's like, yo,
Speaker 2: this doesn't match up something soft.
Speaker 1: Here compared to my grave point average or ship like that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, crazy man, life is crazy.
Speaker 3: Life is crazy. You know I knew you back then.
Speaker 3: I would have taken it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you take SATs?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did pretty good.
Speaker 2: I would have.
Speaker 3: I would have mashed your handwriting and everything.
Speaker 1: Yo, I don't even know how that works anymore. They
Speaker 1: still college ethics still have to pass the SAT.
Speaker 3: I doubt it not with COVID fucking now, dude. Honestly,
Speaker 3: that's a good question, right, I took the A C T.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think that they make it as if you're
Speaker 2: that good.
Speaker 3: You're just good, Like they're going to figure it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they're not going to be like, you can't
Speaker 2: play this week you fail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta be really bad.
Speaker 1: Like I stopped going to schools after eighth grade. I'm
Speaker 1: like an eighth grade dropout. Shout out to me, Shout
Speaker 1: to you, you get very you. My mother died. I
Speaker 1: just fuck it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, talk to me like about this podcast. Obviously
Speaker 2: it's Kaitlyn Jenner bro Kaitlyn Jenner, there's gonna talking about
Speaker 2: anything else but sports, because she's also a very politically charged.
Speaker 1: You gotta understand, it's not a sports is it a
Speaker 1: sports show?
Speaker 3: It's a sports show, but I think the only thing
Speaker 3: sports like.
Speaker 1: On the show is that you have you and two Olympians. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, sports analysts, sports analysts on the show because
Speaker 1: Caitlyn is going to turn into the I noticed our podcast.
Speaker 1: She's like, like, she's Kobe Bryant and Lebron James all
Speaker 1: in one player. Well, there's no ways she got I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't beat her in stories.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, someone who lived a full life.
Speaker 2: Right, does Caitlyn get mad if you miss gender her?
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's a thing obviously, like if you
Speaker 2: accidentally slip up, because you.
Speaker 1: Know, I think she's probably used to it, right, because
Speaker 1: she always hasn't been Kaitlyn, especially to people that know it,
Speaker 1: like you've knew her as both I haven't been around, right, and.
Speaker 2: You haven't been around much, been around, Bruce, you haven't
Speaker 2: been around for a lot of the Kaitlin era.
Speaker 1: No, you know, Kaitlyn has lived the hell of her
Speaker 1: life though. Helicopters on Sundays where a celebrities, super cool.
Speaker 2: Terrible driver.
Speaker 3: She was drafted in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he said, terrible driver.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that hit you a little.
Speaker 3: She's a good pilot.
Speaker 2: Good good pilot, bad driver.
Speaker 3: Whoa, that's crazy. Yeah, we get dinner, great.
Speaker 1: Golf, great golfers. Took me golf and I couldn't get
Speaker 1: off the tea.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I went driving three hundred yards golfing for the first time,
Speaker 2: like a month ago for my friend's batcheler weekend, and
Speaker 2: I fucking hit the ground with the I went to
Speaker 2: swing instead hitting the ball, hit the ground and my
Speaker 2: hands still up. It hurts, Like, yeah, it's bad golf
Speaker 2: is It's just not for me, dude. Can you golf?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: How big the fucking club's got to be for you?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 1: It's like longing, No, they got to be long, but
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not good. I told you I couldn't
Speaker 1: get off the tea. Yeah, but some of the biggest
Speaker 1: business jells I made it on a golf.
Speaker 3: Course is Yeah.
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley has been terrible for like forty years.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna just start hanging out there.
Speaker 3: You know what, I mean, but he's he's like legendarily
Speaker 3: bad Charles Barkley. He's probably got like the most famous
Speaker 3: golf swing.
Speaker 2: It's terrible.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I couldn't really beat the brother into the
Speaker 1: joke like bad and then hype it up. Then I'm
Speaker 1: that bad and calls attention to myself of being bad.
Speaker 3: Doesn't care at all.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that.
Speaker 2: How many episodes? If you guys record weekly?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: You guys? Are you guys can and stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well can I obviously Caitlin's so busy that we
Speaker 3: got to find the right time and place. We shot
Speaker 3: six episodes, that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're coming out.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, probably bi weekly. We got with Sugar Ray,
Speaker 3: Steve O, Bryce Hall, Amber Rose, with Zab Judah.
Speaker 2: What the fuyeah?
Speaker 3: What a combo right over the place, and Patty pimblet
Speaker 3: UFC fighter.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just life therapy really yeah.
Speaker 3: A lot of like mental.
Speaker 1: Health talk, just shooting ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, goes like deeper beyond the athletic.
Speaker 1: Caitlyn got so many stories or something, all right, just
Speaker 1: let her talk, right, yeah, just let her fire off,
Speaker 1: just go yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, you guys should have Chloe on the podcast. That'd
Speaker 2: be a fucking all timer that to break the internet.
Speaker 3: That'll break break the world.
Speaker 1: Got to break the internet. I probably sit there, would
Speaker 1: have shit to say.
Speaker 3: Do you think? Do you think?
Speaker 2: Do you think? Do you think you cried her in that?
Speaker 1: Probably cry when I got home?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd cry in the car probably right.
Speaker 1: Damn, I fucked up.
Speaker 3: You know what, man?
Speaker 2: You learn life is? Uh? You know, it's a long journey, bro.
Speaker 2: And you've you've shown that you can't be defined by
Speaker 2: any peaks or valleys in your life.
Speaker 1: No exactly what it is is life?
Speaker 2: Right, People try to like define you based on your
Speaker 2: lowest points of times, and it's like, yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: it's like the Jam Moran ship. It's like, Yo, John
Speaker 2: Moran's like one of the generationally amazing players we've put
Speaker 2: eyes on in like fucking twenty years.
Speaker 1: They don't get it twisted, don't get it.
Speaker 2: Like he's a murderer, like not literally, but I mean
Speaker 2: he's a killer, Like he's a killer on the court,
Speaker 2: like killer. No, but like he's like a fucking dog
Speaker 2: Like okay, that's better. Yeah, But like it's like and
Speaker 2: now it's like rappers are dropping freestyle bars about him.
Speaker 3: With I do the podcast with Packer Man. It's the
Speaker 3: same thing. You know, people judge him by the lowest point.
Speaker 3: Pac Man Jones for sure, and he's a great person
Speaker 3: who adopted Chris Henry's son, you know, Chris Henry Junior
Speaker 3: and took him in and there's so many great things
Speaker 3: for the community, and people judge him by his lowest
Speaker 3: point and try to anger him in public and stuff
Speaker 3: and pick on and it's you know, I mean, he's
Speaker 3: he's on a plane and they're not letting him switch
Speaker 3: seats and they turn the plane around and there's people
Speaker 3: recording him and yelling at him and cursing at him
Speaker 3: like it's fucked up. Yeah, they gave him a terrorist
Speaker 3: charge on nine to eleven because of that. It's fucking terrible.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 3: He's a great person.
Speaker 2: So you got a podcast with pack Jones and with
Speaker 2: tomorrow them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I went with Jada kiss that's sick. I
Speaker 3: see a kiss one, Yeah, kissing the miss.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you're just like a fucking yeah, you're out
Speaker 2: here working. Yeah, I'm a huge degenerate gambler.
Speaker 3: Are you pretty bad? I like that player or banker?
Speaker 2: No, I'm all sports.
Speaker 3: Just there was like you bet on like Korean baseball.
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, COVID. As soon as those games happened, I
Speaker 2: just closed my eyes and said bad team.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah they got people like that, just a friend
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there was nothing going on in the
Speaker 2: fucking world. Finally Korean baseball started happening, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I can get in on some action here. Put a
Speaker 2: little taste nuts. I gotta get a little taste in there.
Speaker 1: What do you what do we what do we bett though?
Speaker 1: What's your little taste?
Speaker 2: Well, there was a point in time where I was
Speaker 2: putting like between like five and twenty grand on games
Speaker 2: like every other night there was.
Speaker 3: Ray.
Speaker 2: It was a lot, I think, and I thought I
Speaker 2: had this like system down. Well, I would have this
Speaker 2: system and it worked money. It worked for a few
Speaker 2: months where I was like, to me, basketball is like
Speaker 2: one of those own I mean, any given night is
Speaker 2: the Suns can lose to Wemby lists Spurts, right. So
Speaker 2: what I would always do is I would find like
Speaker 2: a like a full slate of games on a night,
Speaker 2: and I would pick, like, in my mind, the for
Speaker 2: sure money line winners, and I'd put like a three
Speaker 2: leg ticket together with like three money line favorites, just
Speaker 2: and I was doing that and I'd put like ten
Speaker 2: grand to win, like eight or seventy five hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I kept cracking it, like and then Christmas of
Speaker 2: two thousand and nineteen or twenty I think it was
Speaker 2: Christmas twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. This is when
Speaker 2: the Warriors were terrible. Steph Curry was injured. Remember they
Speaker 2: had all those young guys out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got the number two pick and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they were playing the Rockets on Christmas, and
Speaker 2: at the time, I think the Rockets were like the
Speaker 2: one seed, maybe the two seed.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I put so much money on the fucking Rockets and
Speaker 2: they fucking lost to a bunch of scrubs on fucking Christmas.
Speaker 2: James hard and a fucking shout out to James. He's
Speaker 2: a nice guy. He frequents my night clips, So I
Speaker 2: don't want say anything bad around he's a nice guy.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, and then I just chased for like
Speaker 2: two weeks. Strange. Yeah, just chasing. It's the worst.
Speaker 3: It's bad, it's the worst. I don't gamble. Must be nice,
Speaker 3: must be nice, Yeah, I don't. I don't think that
Speaker 3: would hurt the picks. I don't think you can give
Speaker 3: picks and be betting on the game.
Speaker 2: It's almost like, can't sell fetanah and smoke it.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's outrageous.
Speaker 2: But yeah, hey you're selling fetanough.
Speaker 3: Damn. I oh yeah, you're winning on my picks. If
Speaker 3: you just took my picks, you'd be doing.
Speaker 2: A great Trust me, I've met you. I've met handicappers
Speaker 2: you and.
Speaker 3: Check them check this out.
Speaker 2: No, there's been a few handicappers who will be like yo,
Speaker 2: I and every they only post the winning tickets, right,
Speaker 2: so I'll be like, you know what, give me some
Speaker 2: picks every time. I it's almost like Crypto. Every time
Speaker 2: I've dived in on Crypto, it's always been like when
Speaker 2: it's too late.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I feel like anytime I've dived in with a handicapper,
Speaker 2: it's like the week that happened off week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't take them while they're hot. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: I uh yeah. I've never missed on a college football
Speaker 3: pick ever, what never? How's that possible? Every national championship
Speaker 3: since I started?
Speaker 2: So what is your process for? Like, what are the
Speaker 2: things you look out for? Because you said twenty with
Speaker 2: five and oh, so that means you very selective if
Speaker 2: you're gonna give.
Speaker 3: A picky college football like, I'll pick like every national
Speaker 3: championship SEC, you know, the real big one. So no,
Speaker 3: before the game starts, I pick all the big games.
Speaker 3: I picked every Super Bowl right since I started posting
Speaker 3: my picks twenty nineteen, how many I've got deetic memory
Speaker 3: so basically photographic, especially with sports, So everything I see
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 2: So, but what are the things you look out?
Speaker 3: Ramn like to me? Like trenches? I put like O
Speaker 3: line D line so important.
Speaker 2: Line D lines is very important for I looked at
Speaker 2: like the Chiefs versus Niners, and I thought, for sure,
Speaker 2: in my head, I'm thinking, it's crazy that Vegas baited
Speaker 2: everyone to bet on the Chiefs with that opening line,
Speaker 2: because if you think about it, the Chiefs should have
Speaker 2: been favored. It's Patrick Mahoons, I'm with you. So I thought,
Speaker 2: in my head, well, Vegas wants everyone to take the
Speaker 2: Chiefs because Vegas knows the Niners are gonna WINEP was
Speaker 2: I off thinking that in my home.
Speaker 3: I don't think your process was bad, but obviously I
Speaker 3: picked the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: I put twenty five hundred dollars on the fucking Niners
Speaker 2: and Niners.
Speaker 3: I don't think the process was bad.
Speaker 1: It somebody brought my ass a though the Liners were
Speaker 1: going to win too, because it was in Vegas.
Speaker 3: I just saw the lines. Ask me, I was with you.
Speaker 2: I saw the line open and I was like.
Speaker 3: Mar facetimed me during the game the Chiefs were down ten,
Speaker 3: there were plus four hundred, and I told him to
Speaker 3: bet the Chiefs. Remember that, Yeah, plus four hundred something's
Speaker 3: nothing like it was not so I also will do
Speaker 3: that in the NBA.
Speaker 2: I'll like, just look at that first quarter and out, like,
Speaker 2: just if someone who should NBA, you know, the first
Speaker 2: quarter don't mean shit.
Speaker 3: You could be Mmmm, that's way harder.
Speaker 2: It is harder. But like if you want to lie
Speaker 2: bet as you know, NBA is a game of runs,
Speaker 2: it is like the first half literally don't mean shit.
Speaker 3: No. I agree with yesterday Jock Londale at fifteen in
Speaker 3: the first quarter, I was like, what the hell is son? Yeah,
Speaker 3: shouts to.
Speaker 2: The Rockets on a as a nine to oh eight.
Speaker 3: No oh yeah, the Jalen Green, Yeah he's got comparing
Speaker 3: him to Kobe and now he's.
Speaker 2: Got thirty eight fucking kids getting ready to be born. Yeah,
Speaker 2: dragon shells out here fucking getting a fucking check.
Speaker 3: Shout to her, he's getting busy.
Speaker 2: But no, I was gonna say, like you can bet
Speaker 2: if like, let's say it's like the Grizzlies, who suck
Speaker 2: right now, they're terrible versus the Celtics. If the Grizzlies
Speaker 2: are up by like twelve in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Don't say the sea word.
Speaker 4: Bro O the Celtics, the Beltics. You really don't like
Speaker 4: the Celtics. Still they shook my bus, bro huh they
Speaker 4: hate it? Still there so they beat us about thirty five.
Speaker 4: The fans racist surrounded our bus and started to shake
Speaker 4: it abruptly.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait what happened?
Speaker 1: They beat is about thirty five in the finals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Okay, the fans surround our bus,
Speaker 1: will not let us leave. It started to shake the bus.
Speaker 1: We got families just shipped on the bus Themseltics like
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Just what about wa to one?
Speaker 1: Think about that? Like wow, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And.
Speaker 1: From there on it I just like I just got
Speaker 1: this taste from and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like Kyrie hated playing in Boston. Did he Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: bad stuff.
Speaker 2: Did you like ever hear racist stuff from the fans
Speaker 2: in Boston?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I hear.
Speaker 2: It's like a bunch of drunk, irish focks.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't have to hear.
Speaker 3: It, you feel it, you feel like tension. Well.
Speaker 1: The craziest shit I ever seen, though, was that a
Speaker 1: Utah jazz game.
Speaker 2: Paul Arena full of Mormons. What happened?
Speaker 1: We're playing, Yeah, and some dick has a blow up
Speaker 1: doll nice and a French made outfit and had a
Speaker 1: sign around his neck and said no means no.
Speaker 2: He's around that time? So did Kobe get him kicked out?
Speaker 1: So we were playing, I'm like, yo, hold up, they
Speaker 1: gotta take that ship down. I ain't playing another second.
Speaker 1: They got it. Yeah, that's the craziest thing I ever seen.
Speaker 2: Did he get kicked out the fan?
Speaker 3: Did they take care of him? They took that ship down? All.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this to like app during the
Speaker 2: game or at the end of the game. Is Kobe
Speaker 2: like like, have you see that ship? These fucking fans
Speaker 2: are crazy? This ship some bullshit.
Speaker 1: I mean he was a little bit, you know, bothered.
Speaker 1: We we all ate it with him, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But there was really nothing to be said.
Speaker 3: Jesus. Yeah, he's probably pretty locked in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, extremely that might motivate him to play harder.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was killing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout the Mutah fans are they're they're they're they're
Speaker 2: they're bright, ruthless, they're pale.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised, you know what, like in a sick way, like,
Speaker 1: but it's some that's some funny ship thought, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I mean like if you are
Speaker 1: you're gonna, are you gonna make a sign and take
Speaker 1: a shot at somebody.
Speaker 3: I grew up, I get it.
Speaker 2: I grew up hating the Lakers. I'm a diehard Sons fan.
Speaker 2: During that era, nothing was off off limits. I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: it's fucked up for sure. I've grown as like a
Speaker 2: sports fan where I'm like, the toxic shit is you know,
Speaker 2: it's for like the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: You know the Sons too, Bro, fuck the Sons.
Speaker 2: What did we do you guys?
Speaker 1: So with the gorilla? Bro?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we talked about this last time. You think
Speaker 2: the gorilla is racist?
Speaker 1: A gorilla?
Speaker 2: There are no gorillas and feet.
Speaker 1: That's so funny ship there, like you think about it
Speaker 1: like a gorilla.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was that was It's like just blatantly like yo,
Speaker 2: the Son's guerrilla and it wins Mascot of the Year
Speaker 2: every year.
Speaker 3: Like I never thought about it, Nobody never thought about it.
Speaker 3: Oh god, min, who do you think get it? But
Speaker 3: you know that's fucked up.
Speaker 2: What do you think was the worst owner? Robert Sarber,
Speaker 2: Donald Sterling?
Speaker 1: Donald Sterling was just like calling people nigga all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even.
Speaker 1: You know, sports is the only you know, the only
Speaker 1: thing that we have with a boss called the owner,
Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy to me. But yeah, any
Speaker 1: other business becose CEO.
Speaker 2: Right right, right, So in sports it's the owner. It's
Speaker 2: kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Who else did you ever party with? Donald Sterling?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he used to throw party at his house?
Speaker 3: How crazy?
Speaker 1: But they like fucking take a clothes was off. Everybody
Speaker 1: get the bombs out Bill dooz all, No, I'm playing,
Speaker 1: I'm playing Wow, Wow.
Speaker 2: Are you I think that was the wrong part. I
Speaker 2: think you're talking about puff Daddy Nah.
Speaker 3: Nah.
Speaker 1: But he used to have parties at his house. Donald
Speaker 1: were they let everybody used to go there? Yeah, try
Speaker 1: to fake to have a good time, right, hoping that
Speaker 1: that good time was gonna get you paid mm hmm,
Speaker 1: because you know he was.
Speaker 2: Notorious for being cheap.
Speaker 1: Second contract come around, you're out here, looks somewhere else.
Speaker 3: I ain't paying you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it was like a mind fuck
Speaker 1: for him to have these parties and he would training camp,
Speaker 1: come in with fifteen Asian women.
Speaker 2: Oh y had his time because there was the Asian.
Speaker 2: It was the Asian chick that sold him out. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but was like, that's pretty badass.
Speaker 1: This was like his crew always was kind of different.
Speaker 1: I'm still surprised that the niggas throwing, but you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. People use it every day now. It
Speaker 1: has no meaning.
Speaker 2: That was obviously you had kind of there was any
Speaker 2: excitement the Clippers had prior to Lob City was when
Speaker 2: it was yourself. I was Darius and you guys.
Speaker 1: When I came into the NBA, it wasn't nobody like.
Speaker 2: Were you guys are on the cover Slam Magazine.
Speaker 1: Six y nine shaking dudes. To get to the whole, I.
Speaker 2: Was just saying, like, outside of your Laker peak, Laker
Speaker 2: time winning championships, what was your most fun. The funnest
Speaker 2: team run.
Speaker 1: Miami was cool, but you know, the Clippers was real
Speaker 1: cool because we was like starting something.
Speaker 2: Young kids running around in LA. Nobody's old enough to drink.
Speaker 2: I know we were drinking, but nobody you guys weren't
Speaker 2: old enough. So I was twenty nineteen twenty. We used
Speaker 2: to just get to the city, right, You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, it's crazy, yo? Is it crazy? Like I
Speaker 2: hear it because you know, I'm cool with a lot
Speaker 2: of players now, and I always hear certain guys have
Speaker 2: like serious, unknown beef with each other over women. Like
Speaker 2: there's dudes in the league that are like a lot
Speaker 2: because top tier players never play on the same team
Speaker 2: together and it's always over a bit.
Speaker 1: You know, having sex with the same same women.
Speaker 2: Was that something that was happening, Like did you know
Speaker 2: that there was like beef between players ever over I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it happens.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that I can really think of off the
Speaker 1: top of my head. But you know, common we got
Speaker 1: the same women's same city. Hey go to the same club.
Speaker 2: Right, right, All those women are all trying to get you.
Speaker 1: You come to the city, but you leave right But
Speaker 1: the Lakers stay in La right, so when you leave,
Speaker 1: Stephanie is still gonna mess with the same dudes from
Speaker 1: the Lakers. So do you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Dude from the Lakers finds out, dude from the Cavaliers
Speaker 2: rotates everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody get a cold, like.
Speaker 3: Chicks waiting in hotels for players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I don't know if that happens anymore.
Speaker 1: Well not, I mean, we got ig now ye, now,
Speaker 1: so it's a lot easier now.
Speaker 2: Now that the social media have everybody funck.
Speaker 1: I could not imagine.
Speaker 2: Just whatever city you going, everybody know.
Speaker 1: I got one hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just open your DMS every city.
Speaker 1: How crazy I got to be for these young men.
Speaker 2: Well, like I feel like nowadays most amy, like.
Speaker 1: You know, I got one hundred and fifty million just
Speaker 1: because it just came on a ticket.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like most players nowadays have like an immediate
Speaker 2: two or three person squad. That's a buffer you would
Speaker 2: have to between bitches and then you would have.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, your boys grew up, we really trust I mean,
Speaker 1: but that still is like security somebody because it gotta
Speaker 1: be crazy nowadays. Right, I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2: Yo, you had said, the last time you were here,
Speaker 2: you told a story about how Chloe caught your cheating
Speaker 2: and she things got crazy, but the story went viral
Speaker 2: and fucking snapchat. I think you said she like fucking
Speaker 2: threatened some chick. So yeah, I'm curious. Once you guys
Speaker 2: broke up and she started dating some of other notable guys,
Speaker 2: you know, did you ever have any sort of like
Speaker 2: interactions that were combative with any of her new mans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one time, and I want to say, Paul, I
Speaker 1: mean for this publicly to James Harden. Okay, Uh, he
Speaker 1: came up to me. I was I think we're I
Speaker 1: was in Vegas and he came up to me. He
Speaker 1: was like what's up? And I just like lost it.
Speaker 1: Like I was like I was like that to fuck
Speaker 1: him up. And I had that with me at the time,
Speaker 1: so kind of got crazy.
Speaker 2: You got Judah with you, like bro.
Speaker 1: But like, you know, man, the man he like, he
Speaker 1: like it's just a bitch, but I mean that it
Speaker 1: was my wife.
Speaker 2: You feel it's different.
Speaker 1: So he like, what's up. I'm like, fucking mean, what's up? Nothing?
Speaker 2: Like did he approach you on some like smoke ship,
Speaker 2: Like yo, what's the nah?
Speaker 1: Nah? Now when I think about it, he was really
Speaker 1: like saying like what's up? And I kind of you know,
Speaker 1: are we good? I was like, what's up? Like, what's up?
Speaker 3: I was there?
Speaker 1: Yeah he wouldn't and I just really just any punches
Speaker 1: thrown to the third rail on no punch yelling. I
Speaker 1: was just yeah, I'm from south of Jamaica. Happen so
Speaker 1: I could just really front real good, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like I just want to say, how did that?
Speaker 2: Like how the interaction end?
Speaker 1: I've never seen him again after that, and that's why
Speaker 1: I'm apologizing right now. Or bootleg Cavs.
Speaker 2: Show never never any crazy ruddings with like French Montana
Speaker 2: any of those guys. Nahn, did you ever see Chloe
Speaker 2: date somebody and you thought to yourself like really like really.
Speaker 1: Nah, after I'm a man, like you know, once is over,
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna go my way, right, I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem in that, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Talk to me? Uh Lamar with this podcast? Is this
Speaker 2: like you're you and Caitlyn's friendship, is it like a
Speaker 2: lot more? You know?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it rejuvenated a bit? Are you guys talking a
Speaker 2: lot more again. Oh yeah, you guys just show up
Speaker 2: in film, and that's kind of where where it ends.
Speaker 1: I think in your family. You know your from your family, right, right,
Speaker 1: So some family members you see every day, some you
Speaker 1: see just some holidays, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It depends. I mean hopefully the more we shoot, you know,
Speaker 1: the closer will become. Right. We had dinner, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did have We did have dinner.
Speaker 2: A big hip hop fan, what do you think about
Speaker 2: Kendrick disson Drake and J Cole.
Speaker 1: I think it's good for the culture, good for the game.
Speaker 1: Everybody want to be the best.
Speaker 2: I agree. I just I just know this. Drake better
Speaker 2: fucking reply.
Speaker 1: I wonder like where to come from.
Speaker 2: It's been building for ten years. The subs have been
Speaker 2: back and forth. I mean, yeah, the control freestyle, it's
Speaker 2: been a lot. Jake Cole better respond, Kendrick said on
Speaker 2: King Kunta a rapper with a ghost rider. Man, what
Speaker 2: the fuck happened that was?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's J Cole. I think J Cole
Speaker 2: will respond. I think Drake J Cole in the middle
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: I think Ja Cole's at the top of the food chain.
Speaker 2: I think Drake cried in the car for sure, and
Speaker 2: he was like, damn, this ain't Meek Mill. He didn't
Speaker 2: reply to push your T. He don't want that push
Speaker 2: a T smoke.
Speaker 1: No, he don't.
Speaker 2: He don't want that Kendrick smoke.
Speaker 3: That's what's levels.
Speaker 2: And Drake is a top tier MC, but he ain't
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1: I just got I just got in a Drake like that.
Speaker 1: I gotta give him his flowers though, because no, he's
Speaker 1: a legend. I remember in two.
Speaker 2: Thousand Drakes and Steph Curry a rap two thousand and nine,
Speaker 2: all the kids like him.
Speaker 1: Chloe's friend Malika was trying to push Drake's mixtape on.
Speaker 2: Me so Far Gone, Yeah We're from Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck out Yeah, saying nah, it ain't gonna work. It worked, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: I already got him too. Shout out to Drake for
Speaker 1: having him too, Like iad he got.
Speaker 2: Him about the horse, it was, oh yeah, he's got
Speaker 2: all them. I mean, look, I think Drake is probably
Speaker 2: one of the more like a yeah, emotionally available man
Speaker 2: in hip hop. Two women Oh they come out for sure, Hey,
Speaker 2: he's got a hog on him. It just leaked it's
Speaker 2: not bad. He's he's got something down there. Pause, super paused, Hey,
Speaker 2: no Diddy, super paws.
Speaker 3: Yeah you ever you have a.
Speaker 2: Party with Diddy?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Hey, listen. I almost went to a Diddy party in Miami.
Speaker 2: Once I almost went. I was gonna go. I was
Speaker 2: gonna go because you know, the Diddy party is a legendary.
Speaker 3: I went to a Diddy party.
Speaker 2: Did you get fucked?
Speaker 3: No? No, I did.
Speaker 2: Not good for you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it real with you, like I grew up,
Speaker 1: like you know, nineteen ninety nine and all that. That
Speaker 1: was my ninety seven Yeah, those you know, some of
Speaker 1: them years. I ain't gonna never forget. It was all
Speaker 1: about the John and Biggie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Remember that Sean John cologne.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Lock Like I remember going
Speaker 1: stopping atter Sean John's store.
Speaker 2: John speaking of that in fucking denim suits and full
Speaker 2: denim suits and try to bring those back, the denim suits.
Speaker 1: Did I never go on the staff?
Speaker 2: How terrible was your draft suit?
Speaker 1: When I look at it now, But it wasn't like
Speaker 1: when I think about it back then, it wasn't that
Speaker 1: bad right back but like right now when you look
Speaker 1: at it, like yeah, but that's that's faster. It changes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yo.
Speaker 1: The Suit act. Somebody about their draft shuit in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine.
Speaker 2: Oh man, looking like fucking Jackie Moon for fucking uh yeah,
Speaker 2: semi pro.
Speaker 3: Look at the shorts they used to wear.
Speaker 2: The short shorts are coming. I feel like we're coming
Speaker 2: back a bit.
Speaker 3: A little bit, a little bit. Yeah, not that short.
Speaker 2: So uh all right, So you and you have another
Speaker 2: podcast you do, right? Weren't you doing a separate.
Speaker 1: Podcast delayed show Ma and Aaron Cohen Laker podcast?
Speaker 2: How you guys do that often? Do you feel like
Speaker 2: you'll forever just like identify as a Laker?
Speaker 1: Yeah? One hell yeah one six.
Speaker 2: Man, Like you have any emotional connection to the Dallas
Speaker 2: Mavericks Miami Heat.
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course the Heat.
Speaker 1: Yere's great clippers.
Speaker 3: I do too.
Speaker 2: They drafted me when you were with the Mavericks. That
Speaker 2: was kind of like towards the tail end. Did Dirk like,
Speaker 2: was he like just cool ship?
Speaker 1: Dirk got great routine.
Speaker 2: M hmm.
Speaker 1: You understand why he's so good repetitious mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dirk is super underrated.
Speaker 1: Super He always gave me trouble super legend.
Speaker 2: Well he was also like ahead of his time to
Speaker 2: like the seven feet We got a whole fucking league
Speaker 2: full of dirks. Now, yeah, yeah, seven feet dudes can
Speaker 2: shoot threes and quite possibly, you know, one of the
Speaker 2: probably the most underrated championship one of them. Like he
Speaker 2: took down fucking Big three eleven.
Speaker 3: First got on the thunder.
Speaker 2: Was fucking Jason Terry and Jason Kidd.
Speaker 3: Harden Westbrook and KD And then they got to the
Speaker 3: heat and Terry went fucking crazy. Jason Kidd was playing well.
Speaker 2: Sean Marrion, Yeah, Sean maryon uglyest shot in NBA history.
Speaker 3: They got They s got like forty from three, the
Speaker 3: whole team. So, yeah, that was the thunder. He carried him,
Speaker 3: Dirk averaging like thirty six night. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was on that team with you? Was JJ
Speaker 2: Burray on that team?
Speaker 1: No, J was saying I think he was.
Speaker 3: He definitely was that twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I kind of blocked that
Speaker 1: year out of my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, were you like doing were you doing a lot
Speaker 2: of substances while on the Mavericks or were you trying
Speaker 2: to get clean or clean yeah.
Speaker 1: I was shooting Chloe and Tomorrow still, but I shot
Speaker 1: Chloe and Lamar twenty eleven when I got six Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be done again either, have a.
Speaker 2: Full reality show while being the six Man of the Year.
Speaker 2: Oh well yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Did they have to convince you? Like, is that like
Speaker 2: because this is the thing. It feels like because Kanye
Speaker 2: said no to being on the screen a lot when
Speaker 2: he was with I was with the ship, but you
Speaker 2: were always with the ships.
Speaker 1: I was with ye, Like, fuck it, let's do want
Speaker 1: to do something I haven't been done before, right, it's
Speaker 1: never been number for I don't think right, Sportsman having
Speaker 1: the whole another and then yeah.
Speaker 2: Chris Humphries was I mean he did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 2: Chris Humphreys was there though he was in the league.
Speaker 2: I mean he was averaging like ten. He was okay
Speaker 2: when he was on the nets. He had like a
Speaker 2: fucking cup of tea on the nets where he was
Speaker 2: like like almost double double no, no, no, yeah, Chris
Speaker 2: Humphries man shot out to him, Hey man, it was
Speaker 2: an era and we saw it on TV and then
Speaker 2: it stopped quickly. How how like for you lamar, like,
Speaker 2: obviously kind of you're you know, the name of this
Speaker 2: fucking new podcast is keeping Up with Sports?
Speaker 1: How that was corny? But that was who I did?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 2: That was no, not my idea, pops, moms, Oh, your
Speaker 2: dad is your dad like the guy behind this thing?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Uh, but you we always hear that, like Chris Jenner
Speaker 2: is like this like puppet master behind everybody, like controlling
Speaker 2: ship and pushing her daughter to do all this crazy ship.
Speaker 1: She did a good job.
Speaker 2: Everyone's very successful. But like, how how much very successful,
Speaker 2: very very, very very couple of billionaires?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean kid might not be a billionaire, but
Speaker 2: she's damn near close.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, like, how like you were
Speaker 2: a part of a reality show, which I'm sure she
Speaker 2: was involved in, Like how heavily? Like how much of
Speaker 2: that is true? And how much of it is inflated?
Speaker 1: A lot is inflated? Yeah, most of it is inflated.
Speaker 1: Obviously she's about her business, and obviously it's just good business.
Speaker 1: They ain't complaining about nobody getting riped off or anything
Speaker 1: like that in the family and all that money passed around, right,
Speaker 1: So they're doing a good job of passing it each
Speaker 1: and let me tell you something, motherfucker them car dashing
Speaker 1: Christmas is crazy?
Speaker 3: Talk about it.
Speaker 2: Come up, what's the craziest gift you got?
Speaker 3: That wasn't we don't get.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna get a Chloe bum Me Rose
Speaker 1: Voice after Game seven though Jesus paid off. That was like,
Speaker 1: you know, what do you where's that car?
Speaker 2: Now? Do you just trade it in?
Speaker 1: She got it? I don't know whatever was.
Speaker 2: Kanye around towards the end years of you in her
Speaker 2: in your marriage. I'm trying to think of the years
Speaker 2: of like Yay and King.
Speaker 1: He was around when I when I came up out
Speaker 1: of the the coma, he was here playing music for
Speaker 1: me and shit like that.
Speaker 2: What album was he playing for you? It was unreleased,
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but like, what do you remember what album
Speaker 2: ended up being on? Was this? Like prior to Jesus
Speaker 2: dropping what year was your coma? I could tell you
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, Okay, so he was playing you stuff from
Speaker 2: the Life of Pablo Yea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that shit was hitting though.
Speaker 2: For sure, great album you like that one. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Kanye fan, So all of those albums
Speaker 2: are hidden.
Speaker 1: I just didn't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't fan of Jesus Is King that maybe not
Speaker 2: for me, not for you either. I see you have
Speaker 2: the star.
Speaker 3: No, not for but I wouldn't hate on it if
Speaker 3: I liked it. But I mean, Kanye has got more
Speaker 3: classic albums than anyone.
Speaker 2: Ever, how do you feel about Gaza? You were prepared
Speaker 2: to answer that question?
Speaker 3: I was not prepared for that one. No thoughts, Yeah,
Speaker 3: no thoughts. Well, do I know when?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Okay? So is there already an episode out?
Speaker 3: No? No, soon?
Speaker 2: So do you guys have a date for the first episode?
Speaker 1: When is it?
Speaker 3: Billy Billy Billy? What's going on? Coming soon?
Speaker 2: I saw, I just saw a line I saw real today,
Speaker 2: So I did see like a reel like you guys
Speaker 2: are promoting it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we're getting the buzz up. People know, people know,
Speaker 3: people know. World Star posted it today.
Speaker 2: Do you does Caitlyn get into politics on the show
Speaker 2: because she's very politically charged up?
Speaker 3: Everything?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything, We're gonna do it all good everything. It
Speaker 3: It's a lot like about the Olympic mindset, like crazy
Speaker 3: stories from there was a terrorist attack at the nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy two Olympic Games. Yep, that Caitlyn was there. I
Speaker 3: didn't know about them, and I'm obviously years old.
Speaker 2: But obviously you were four when Superbad came out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, So hearing stories like that and preparing
Speaker 3: for the games and the you know, the the mindset
Speaker 3: of a gold medal Olympian is crazy, right, which people
Speaker 3: forget about that side of her. Just think of hers.
Speaker 3: What I got comments on the post we made. What
Speaker 3: does calend know about sports? Dummy?
Speaker 2: That's crazy, dummy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Drafted to the NBA. Play college? She got drafted to
Speaker 3: the NBA.
Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: That's fucking drafted to them. Drafted. Who drafted Bruce.
Speaker 1: Back then? It was like something It was a Kansas
Speaker 1: City something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Kansas City Royals, I think something like that.
Speaker 2: No Buffalo Braves, I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: About some ship like that. But yeah, what the fuck
Speaker 3: did he play? No? No play college football?
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. A fast motherfucker you yeah, really
Speaker 2: real olympian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we made the Olympian team, Olympic team
Speaker 3: at twenty two years old in the seventy two Olympics, right, yeah, crazy, crazy,
Speaker 3: crazy crazy.
Speaker 2: What was the Olympics like for you? Was that experience
Speaker 2: like incredible. Yeah, yeah, I remember opening the opening ceremony.
Speaker 3: Those are opening ceremonies are narley Where was I.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, ship, like y'all, I had to like
Speaker 1: pace myself.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It was in Greece.
Speaker 2: Did you feel like, what is that the most patriotic
Speaker 2: you've ever felt?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You're just sitting there like, yeah, fuck the rest of you,
Speaker 2: it's us.
Speaker 5: A Yeah, he's got who else on that team?
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan levers.
Speaker 2: Step shout to Steph Maulbury, the greatest Chinese basketball player
Speaker 2: of all time. He's got a statue.
Speaker 3: Yeah we lost James.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well from you guys came like the thedem team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was damn AI.
Speaker 3: Were still supposed to win though, of course that's yeah team.
Speaker 1: Young Lebron, Young Mellow and Young d But yeah, they
Speaker 1: didn't incorporate them until I was shipped.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if Tim Duncan to Tim.
Speaker 2: What was it like hanging out with Was Tim Duncan
Speaker 2: like as boring of a human as we all think
Speaker 2: he'd be?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Was he like, all right, guys, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Go to back state to herself most of the time, right,
Speaker 1: So that was expected though.
Speaker 2: Was he hard to guard like when you guys would
Speaker 2: play the Spurs? Yeah, just like so strong, great greatest
Speaker 2: power forward of all time?
Speaker 3: What about the defense? Always did a black shir? Yeah,
Speaker 3: always in the right position.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Who's more frustrating in their prime for you to defend
Speaker 2: and or to defend? I was gonna say KG or
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan. Those are my two cages underrated? Who cag
Speaker 2: is underrated for sure.
Speaker 3: People don't talk about coming like a top fifteen player ever,
Speaker 3: but he is.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's fifteen, Yeah, it might be
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 1: Obazza Pepperoni was popping Taste Fresh, What.
Speaker 2: Up pizza and bourbon? Now open? We're open. The podcast
Speaker 2: not open yet, coming.
Speaker 3: Soon, coming soon.
Speaker 2: You got thirty podcasts in counting. You go to New
Speaker 2: York to shoot a kiss?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we shot him in Miami.
Speaker 2: Too, got it. He's got great coffee.
Speaker 3: Love Kiss Cafe. We would shoot that like we would
Speaker 3: just prioritize the guests. Really, we had like Tyreek Hill Frend, Twantana,
Speaker 3: Brandon Marshall and Dadie O. Brown. We were just wherever
Speaker 3: the best guess was at, where we would travel.
Speaker 2: Kiss is the best Jane is the best for sure,
Speaker 2: just super He's amazing. He's a goat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: Who's in your top five? Lamar, give me your overall
Speaker 2: top five and your queen's top.
Speaker 1: Five, Big Jay, it's a grade three. Mm hmm, give
Speaker 1: me something, Mark, Big j Nas Jada, I love Jada,
Speaker 1: Kiss Rock Kim Rock.
Speaker 5: Him is like who kind of inspired Queens is nas
Speaker 5: g rap Yes, prodigp for sure, Prodigy fifty.
Speaker 2: Fifty Action Bronxon is from Queens. I don't know if
Speaker 2: he's top five, but he's up there. Ali Vegas was
Speaker 2: hard for sure, Yeah, I think, uh you know shouts
Speaker 2: the Queens Man. Did you ever hear about like the
Speaker 2: Supreme Team and all that ship when you were growing up?
Speaker 2: Because that was like because you're from Jamaica, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: so like the crack and then like when you're getting
Speaker 2: drafted like fifty cents dropping like how to rob right,
Speaker 2: and he's like rolling around with tone and poke from
Speaker 2: where from too shouts to the Lost Boys Freaky tar
Speaker 2: r ip Uh So, like what was that like growing
Speaker 2: up around like just that whole era of like we
Speaker 2: hear about We've watched movies about the ship. You know
Speaker 2: like they get Richard. I tried movie like the Spreed
Speaker 2: team was fucking crazy, like like they had to be
Speaker 2: pretty wild to be like who you are.
Speaker 3: You just want to.
Speaker 1: Represent represent you know what I'm saying to the fullest
Speaker 1: that we know where we're from. Get it done, stay fly,
Speaker 1: stay correct. Yeah, shake hands with the people in the eye.
Speaker 1: There it is.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you guys drop a new episode or the first
Speaker 2: episode soon, because the reels.
Speaker 3: Really will we will.
Speaker 2: I need to get sports pictus from this kid right here.
Speaker 1: You will. Thanks for the roll ups, bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a college for the pizza. You're welcome pizza.
Speaker 2: We got all the pizza for you guys. And uh yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I look forward to the first episode of the pod.
Speaker 2: There we go, lamar odom appreciate your brother, Yes, sir
Speaker 2: Fire