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Speaker 3: If the Warriors had lost this finals, people unequivocally would say, ooh,
Speaker 3: that hurts Lebron's legacy. You know, he lost to a
Speaker 3: team that wasn't unbeatable, wasn't a juggernaut. These kids in
Speaker 3: Boston beatle Welcome in What's Right with Nick Right the
Speaker 3: podcast and YouTube show. As we sit here the day
Speaker 3: after the NBA champion has been crowned, and I don't
Speaker 3: want to act like it's a sad day, because it's
Speaker 3: a very exciting day. It's an exciting day for the NBA,
Speaker 3: it's an exciting day for NBA history. It however, is
Speaker 3: a bit of a sad day for me financially. It
Speaker 3: is a very sad day for my dear son, whose
Speaker 3: beloved Boston Celtics, who seem he has ridden throughout these playoffs.
Speaker 3: It looked so good just a week ago, and then
Speaker 3: a team that had not lost back to back games
Speaker 3: except for once in the last five months, and the
Speaker 3: one time they lost back to back they were rested
Speaker 3: four starters finished their season losing three consecutive games. So
Speaker 3: here's what I would like to do today. Because today
Speaker 3: is a shorter show than usual, We're just going to
Speaker 3: talk NBA Finals, just going to talk about Game six
Speaker 3: and then we'll be back on our regular schedule. This
Speaker 3: weekend we have our continue the countdown of the fifty
Speaker 3: Guarders players last fifty years. Players twelve through ten come
Speaker 3: out this weekend, and then next Tuesday we'll have a
Speaker 3: regular episode. Here's how I would like to format today's show, DEMONSA.
Speaker 3: I want to talk Warriors. Then I want to talk Celtics.
Speaker 3: Then I want to talk a little bit about the
Speaker 3: tangential other NBA stories that are affected by the Warriors
Speaker 3: winning the title. Then I want to talk about you,
Speaker 3: but not the way you expect. So those are the
Speaker 3: four things we must do today. How are we gonna
Speaker 3: lead off? Well, let me lead off with this. First
Speaker 3: of all, are you doing okay?
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 3: Are you sure? Yeah? Are you more wounded by your
Speaker 3: team's loss or by your financial loss?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm more affected by the money.
Speaker 3: Buy the money? Okay. That will be discussed at the
Speaker 3: end of the show. However, we must start with the Warriors.
Speaker 3: I assume we're starting with Steph, but I'm not sure
Speaker 3: you lead us there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Boston kind of started off hot, and then you know,
Speaker 5: the Warriors took over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen to two, and then that was basically the
Speaker 3: end of their good offense for the day.
Speaker 4: Exactly unfortunate.
Speaker 5: But Steph wins his fourth title, and along with that,
Speaker 5: he goes thirty four and seven and seven in the
Speaker 5: closeout game and finally wins finals MVP.
Speaker 4: Yep. Is this Curry's greatest achievement in his career.
Speaker 3: No question about it. Okay, there is no doubt about
Speaker 3: This is Steph Curry's crowning achievement. And it's not just
Speaker 3: because it was his best finals. It was without at though.
Speaker 3: It's not just because it was his first finals MVP.
Speaker 3: And by the way, here's the thing. I know a
Speaker 3: lot of people like to say, well, he should have
Speaker 3: had one before. I don't believe that. I believe in
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen he was more deserving the Niguadala. But in
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, the man who deserved finals MVP was Lebron.
Speaker 3: This was, without a doubt, the first he's played in
Speaker 3: six finals. This was his first finals where no one
Speaker 3: would argue someone on his team or the other team
Speaker 3: was better than him. This was the first finals where
Speaker 3: it was clear and obvious he was the biggest problem
Speaker 3: for the opposition on the court, and they had no
Speaker 3: answer for him. He had a bad Game five, But
Speaker 3: I don't really even think that's because Boston guarded him
Speaker 3: that well. I think it's because he miss shots. A
Speaker 3: lot of that over nine from three, A lot of
Speaker 3: those were open threes. And for Steph Curry to be
Speaker 3: the architect of the best dynasty since Michael and Scotti's Bulls,
Speaker 3: it is is an unimpeachable basketball resume he now has.
Speaker 3: He now has a finals where he was brilliant start
Speaker 3: to finish. He has the crowning achievement of the game
Speaker 3: four of those finals down to one, a forty three
Speaker 3: point masterpiece, a great closeout game. He fought his ass
Speaker 3: off on defense. The Warriors won this series because of
Speaker 3: their defense, and he would listen, he's obviously not a
Speaker 3: great defender. But you weren't watching the twenty fifteen to
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen finals as closely as I was. You watch
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen with me in my apartment in La it
Speaker 3: was on Father's Day twenty sixteen. But those finals, the
Speaker 3: plan was attack Steph Curry. Attack step Curry, put him
Speaker 3: in picking rolls. He has made himself into an adequate
Speaker 3: enough defender where now you no longer can do that.
Speaker 3: You can try to and you can try to wear
Speaker 3: him out, but he is not a turnstile. And also
Speaker 3: he is sut to be the guy for this run
Speaker 3: to help keep the team. I think the Warriors management
Speaker 3: deserves credit. The ownership for spending all that money. Their
Speaker 3: luxury tax bill is off the charts. The management deserves
Speaker 3: credit for not pivoting some They semi pivoted by not
Speaker 3: trading away or by keeping the draft picks and going
Speaker 3: with these young guys Kaminga and Moody who did nothing
Speaker 3: in the finals. They wanted to have a plan long term,
Speaker 3: but they continued to spend to invest in veterans, bring
Speaker 3: back Iguadala, to not flip Andrew Wiggins, all these things
Speaker 3: that cost them enormous amounts of money because they had
Speaker 3: faith that with Steph Curry their viable championship contenders. Despite
Speaker 3: two years ago having one of the worst records in
Speaker 3: basketball when Steph was hurt and last year missing the
Speaker 3: playoffs when Steph was healthy. This is, without a doubt,
Speaker 3: the finest achievement of his career, and it does put
Speaker 3: him into a different stratosphere that next stratosphere. I think
Speaker 3: the question everyone's asking this morning is what stratosphere is that?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: I mean, so he's got four titles, two MVPs and
Speaker 5: one finals MVP and he's one of five guys to
Speaker 5: ever do that.
Speaker 4: Yep. So where would you put him now on your
Speaker 4: top fifty list?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm not going to spoil the top fifty
Speaker 3: list entirely. What I am going to tell you is this,
Speaker 3: the top fifty list is just the last fifty years.
Speaker 3: But what everyone else is doing today is is he
Speaker 3: one of the ten greatest players ever?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: The problem with a ten person list is we have
Speaker 3: talked about many times, is there are only room for
Speaker 3: ten people on it. And in my opinion, there are
Speaker 3: a few guys who it is inarguable, right, so lebron
Speaker 3: Kareem and Michael it is inarguable that Steph is not
Speaker 3: there yet. I believe it is inarguable he is not
Speaker 3: there with Wilton Russell. So now we're at five. I
Speaker 3: do not think he is yet to Magic, certainly not
Speaker 3: to Magic or Bird. One could say Bird's a little argule.
Speaker 3: I don't think he has yet surpassed Duncan or Kobe.
Speaker 3: And then you also still have Shaq in a team
Speaker 3: that's eleven people. So is he and my all time
Speaker 3: top ten? He is not? Is he banging on the door?
Speaker 3: He is? Do I think? And nobody's having this discussion today.
Speaker 3: But when it's all said and done, if we're trying
Speaker 3: to take someone from the top ten, if you don't
Speaker 3: order it, you just have ten guys and you're trying
Speaker 3: to replace one of them with Steph. The guy whose
Speaker 3: resume stephs is going to I believe match up quite
Speaker 3: favorably too, because they're gonna have the same blemishes, which
Speaker 3: is missed the playoffs during their prime, won some of
Speaker 3: his titles with a guy who might be the best
Speaker 3: player in the league, had some really rough final moments,
Speaker 3: but went to a bunch of finals, won a bunch
Speaker 3: of rings. That guy is Kobe Bryant, and nobody's kicking
Speaker 3: Kobe out for Steph right now, but Kobe's that listen.
Speaker 3: Steph has two titles with Durant, well, Kobe has three
Speaker 3: with Shak says Kobe won. Kobe didn't win finals MVP
Speaker 3: that year. Step didn't win finals MVP that year. Steph
Speaker 3: missed the playoffs two straight years. Kobe the first three
Speaker 3: year Shack was gone, missed the playoffs once and two
Speaker 3: straight first round exits. Kobe then had the renaissance with pal.
Speaker 3: Kobe also was bad in the four finals, was mediocre
Speaker 3: in the two thousand finals. Like these are real things.
Speaker 3: And so I do think that we've got to acknowledge
Speaker 3: that if you're if you want to have the Steph
Speaker 3: belongs in the top ten discussion, it's going to get
Speaker 3: quite uncomfortable on the people you might have to push out.
Speaker 3: And so I don't think he's top ten all time yet. However,
Speaker 3: it would foolish to say he can't get there because
Speaker 3: he if he wins another ring, it has to matter.
Speaker 3: Going into this season, I had him behind Durant, Moses
Speaker 3: and Doctor J. He passed Durant. I don't want to
Speaker 3: spoil too much of Sunday, but you know what, I
Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and spoil some of it. He passed Moses,
Speaker 3: and he and Doctor J. If he was neck and
Speaker 3: neck with Doctor J going into the finals, then doesn't
Speaker 3: he almost by definition, have to pass Doctor J by
Speaker 3: virtue of winning the finals? Probably now is that enough
Speaker 3: for me to put him a head of Shack or
Speaker 3: a cheme much less Bird or Kobe or duncan not yet.
Speaker 3: But he's got time left. And there's one other thing
Speaker 3: I want to say about the Warriors before we get
Speaker 3: to your Celtics, which is there is massive credit that
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson gets for fighting through the hell of the
Speaker 3: previous two years. And even though Draymond used his podcast
Speaker 3: to roast me today by name saying I know nothing
Speaker 3: about basketball, that's fine Draymond to take his victory lap.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna use mine to give him some credit. He
Speaker 3: was miserable, miserable the first three games of this series,
Speaker 3: truly awful in games one and three. He had a
Speaker 3: moment in Game four of goodness after being benched and
Speaker 3: after his mom called him out. Game five, he was fine,
Speaker 3: but going into Game six, Draymond was having a horrific
Speaker 3: NBA Finals by eye test, stat opinion of his own mother.
Speaker 3: And then last night in Game six, he was outstanding.
Speaker 3: He was a force on defense, he kept his cool. Yeah, though,
Speaker 3: those Draymond backpack threes when he makes them, they're so
Speaker 3: heartbreaking for the opposition, and that is what a champion does.
Speaker 3: Game seven of the twenty sixteen Finals, when Steph had
Speaker 3: what he called the worst game of his career. Draymond
Speaker 3: had arguably the best game of his YEP, I think
Speaker 3: he had thirty two fifteen and nine. I'd have to look.
Speaker 3: In fact, I will look it up to be sure.
Speaker 3: It was a game seven of the Finals, and Draymond
Speaker 3: showed up and showed the hell out twenty sixteen Finals
Speaker 3: Game seven, he had thirty two, fifteen and nine. Gosh,
Speaker 3: I'm good at that stuff, just remembering. I hadn't even
Speaker 3: looked at it, but I knew. I knew he was
Speaker 3: just shy of the triple double. And so Draymond, listen.
Speaker 3: This goes on the resid on on the resume for
Speaker 3: Draymond in a finals where going into game six he
Speaker 3: was averaging fewer the same number of points five thousand,
Speaker 3: five points per game, rebound, seven rebounds, five assists on
Speaker 3: twenty eight percent shooting zero percent from three is what
Speaker 3: he was averaging going into game set. And in game
Speaker 3: six he hit half his shots. He hit two threes,
Speaker 3: He had twelve points, twelve rebounds, eight assists, only one foul,
Speaker 3: and played a hell of a defensive game. Draymond gets credit.
Speaker 3: You listen, when you win, you get credit. When you
Speaker 3: play well in the win, you get credit, so he
Speaker 3: gets credit. Now, are you ready yet to talk about
Speaker 3: your Celtics?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you do? Forget what the forget what the script says.
Speaker 3: Let's just you and me talk. What's your opinion of
Speaker 3: what happened to the Celtics the final three games.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say that they were scared. I
Speaker 4: don't think that they were scared.
Speaker 5: I think that there were times where they just played
Speaker 5: like they it's like high school basketball. Like coming into
Speaker 5: Game six, I thought that the mistake they made in
Speaker 5: the last couple of games, and very easy mistakes to
Speaker 5: fix it was like, you know, the one thing that
Speaker 5: you can't do. It's it's I feel like, easy stuff
Speaker 5: to capitalize on, which is free throws and turnovers. And
Speaker 5: they just went out there and did the same thing again.
Speaker 3: Throw because they weren't getting to the free throw line
Speaker 3: the way they needed to.
Speaker 5: Exactly, and like obviously Marcus Smart didn't show up, And
Speaker 5: a big thing for the Celtics in this postseason run,
Speaker 5: I feel like was the role players, and the role
Speaker 5: players were basically absent.
Speaker 4: In the Warriors series. It seemed like after Game.
Speaker 3: One, Yeah, exactly, Okay. So all that's true and all
Speaker 3: that's accurate. But the name you didn't mention there that
Speaker 3: we need to discuss.
Speaker 4: Is Jason Tae.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because I said, going into game six, I
Speaker 3: thought Horford and Brown would have big games. Jalen Brown
Speaker 3: had thirty four points on twenty three shots. Al Horford
Speaker 3: had nineteen points on eight shots to go along with
Speaker 3: fourteen rebounds. Right, Staff played really well, but Clay was
Speaker 3: not good. Clay was five of twenty. So if I
Speaker 3: tell you STEP's going to be really good, but Clay's
Speaker 3: going to be bad, Corford and Brown are going to
Speaker 3: be excellent. It's in Boston. The answers were seeing we're
Speaker 3: getting a game seven and they didn't get a game seven. Yes,
Speaker 3: everyone was turning the ball over. Brown turned the ball over,
Speaker 3: but Tatum turned the ball over as well. Tatum had
Speaker 3: two points in the second half. Tatum was six of
Speaker 3: eighteen for the game, and he had thirteen points. He
Speaker 3: was having a rough series and he had going into
Speaker 3: game six he hadn't been good and in Game six
Speaker 3: he was awful. These things are true. Now what does
Speaker 3: that mean for Jason Tatum moving forward? I believe it
Speaker 3: will be a net positive for him. It's not a guarantee, though.
Speaker 3: The concern if you're a Celtics fan is is this
Speaker 3: going to scar Jason Tatum?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Is this going to.
Speaker 4: He seemed to be pretty down on himself. Correct.
Speaker 3: Is this going to stunt his development? I don't think
Speaker 3: it will. I think instead this will fuel Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I think Jason Tatum is wildly talented, and when it's
Speaker 3: going well for him, he does look like kind of
Speaker 3: a poor man's combination of Durant and Kobe. Some of
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like Durant's smoothness and defensive versatility,
Speaker 3: Kobe's impossible shot making. And when I say poor man's
Speaker 3: that's only because those are two of the sixteen seventeen
Speaker 3: greatest players ever. So you could be a poor man's
Speaker 3: version of that and still an all time great player.
Speaker 3: The problem for Tatum is when it's not going well,
Speaker 3: he gets nothing easy like what the best players understand is.
Speaker 3: And the reason that the true best players in the
Speaker 3: league rarely have actually bad games, They just have bad
Speaker 3: games by their standards, is they find their way to
Speaker 3: twenty four points, they will get to the free throw line.
Speaker 3: Tatum was shying from contact. Tatum absolutely, and it was
Speaker 3: very clear from Game one the moment was a little
Speaker 3: too big for n And that's by the way, I
Speaker 3: want to make this clear. Lebron James. I believe he's
Speaker 3: the greatest player ever. Lebron James in his first Finals,
Speaker 3: the moment wasn't too big for him. He just he
Speaker 3: averaged almost identical to Tatum's statline, including shooting percentage. This series. Now,
Speaker 3: Lebron was twenty two. They were playing a Spurs team
Speaker 3: that's better than this Warriors team, but still wasn't great.
Speaker 3: But Lebron in his second Finals, when he was twenty seven,
Speaker 3: guess what, the moment was too big for him. He
Speaker 3: got nervous, he got a little scared, and he was
Speaker 3: eighteen points per game in that series against the MAVs.
Speaker 3: This happens, so it is not career defining. The tough
Speaker 3: part for Boston is this glass half full. Is everybody's back.
Speaker 3: You have everyone under contract. It's not a situation like
Speaker 3: the MAVs are in where it's like, hey, we had
Speaker 3: this really good season, but Jalen Brunson might league. We
Speaker 3: want to have to remake some things. Everyone that matters
Speaker 3: is under contract, and everyone but Horford is young. The
Speaker 3: glass half empty thing is this Joannis ain't going anywhere?
Speaker 3: And after watching these full playoffs, do you believe like
Speaker 3: I believe that if Chris Middleton hadn't gotten hurt, the
Speaker 3: Milwaukee Bucks are champions.
Speaker 4: Man, I just had this conversation with Daniel last night.
Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't.
Speaker 5: You don't, I don't what everybody always wants to talk about. Well,
Speaker 5: such and such was hurt, this and that. All right,
Speaker 5: well everybody is, everybody's getting hurt. There's gonna be people
Speaker 5: that are hurt. It doesn't It's absolutely true.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, So I'm not talking about that as
Speaker 3: a look back on someone accomplished next year. Correct. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about if you're moving forward. I don't think I
Speaker 3: think I think a ball moving forward. Looks at them
Speaker 3: against Brooklyn, they say, man, kiss my ass. We swept you.
Speaker 3: Even if you have been Simmons back. We know how
Speaker 3: to defend you. We beat you four games to nothing. Mie, Milwaukee,
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, we were down three to two
Speaker 3: game six. It took the best game of Tatum's life.
Speaker 3: We won the series in seven, and you didn't have
Speaker 3: your second best player that's concerning. So that's where if
Speaker 3: I'm if I'm Boston, I do think Boston will be
Speaker 3: better than Brooklyn next year. I don't know what Philly's
Speaker 3: gonna be. Miami is an older team, not a younger team.
Speaker 3: Boston should be a clear cut second best team in
Speaker 3: the East. But Vegas has them as the best team
Speaker 3: in the East going into next year, and I don't
Speaker 3: believe that. I think Milwaukee is the best team in basketball.
Speaker 5: I think that there's I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 5: the Bucks. The Bucks are like they average, kind of
Speaker 5: like middle aged. They're not like super young, but they're
Speaker 5: also not old.
Speaker 3: No exactly right, No, it's kind of perfect. Guys are
Speaker 3: like in the prime of their career.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: So I think between now and then, I think that
Speaker 5: with the Celtics just going to the finals, they know
Speaker 5: exactly what they have to work on, and I think
Speaker 5: the development from now until the next time that they
Speaker 5: possibly see the Bucks or whoever it may be, that
Speaker 5: they will be ready for me.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the hope, right, The hope is exactly that,
Speaker 3: and that the Celtics are a young team that guys
Speaker 3: are entering their prime. Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum are
Speaker 3: entering their prime. Marcus Smart just started his prime. Time Lord.
Speaker 3: The other thing for you guys is this time lord's
Speaker 3: got to get healthy like time. Lord. Robert Williams, who's
Speaker 3: been your guy for some time, huge factor, huge factor
Speaker 3: when he was able to be out there, and he
Speaker 3: was not able to be out there as often or
Speaker 3: as long as you would have won it right. So,
Speaker 3: and I thought Udoka, who's been excellent, made some real
Speaker 3: mistakes last night as far as playing why and and
Speaker 3: Pritchard early. He didn't he needed to go into last
Speaker 3: night's game. And I understand the thought process is this,
Speaker 3: we we have to win twice, so play. If playing
Speaker 3: Brown and Tatum forty six minutes each leaves us with
Speaker 3: no chance to win game seven, then what's you know,
Speaker 3: what did we accomplish? I would argue that's the wrong
Speaker 3: thought process. The wrong thought process is you must get
Speaker 3: to game seven by any means necessary. And then who
Speaker 3: the hell knows what happens?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Who knows if somebody tightens up on the other team,
Speaker 3: If all of a sudden, Grant Williams has this amazing
Speaker 3: shooting night like he didn't games something, it'st Milwaukee, and
Speaker 3: I thought early in the game, when you guys were
Speaker 3: rolling going to the bench and letting the Warriors immediately
Speaker 3: take back control, that's something that listen, whodoak as a
Speaker 3: rookie coach. It's something though that I believe, will you know,
Speaker 3: give him sleepless nights over the summers. Now, there's two
Speaker 3: other people I want to talk about before we get
Speaker 3: to you, Okay. The first one is Kevin Durant, because well,
Speaker 3: no people are going.
Speaker 4: To ask the question what does this mean for his legacy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 4: And I think Katie might have been more pissed than
Speaker 4: me last night.
Speaker 3: Listen, I think Katie is not as it's weird. He
Speaker 3: obviously cares what people say, but I don't think it
Speaker 3: affects like it changes his own opinion of his I
Speaker 3: think it's like the thing is go ahead.
Speaker 5: I think that'll actually mess with him in his head.
Speaker 5: Like I don't think it really matters what other people
Speaker 5: are saying as far as like, cause I think that
Speaker 5: he thinks that he is a major reason. I mean,
Speaker 5: obviously he has some type of responsibility for the championship
Speaker 5: that they won when he was on the team.
Speaker 4: But I think like in his head. Like them winning this,
Speaker 4: it's like, oh wow.
Speaker 3: It's obviously painful for him, right, there's just no way
Speaker 3: around that. The fact that they now won without him
Speaker 3: and beat the team that swept him. That's like if
Speaker 3: going into these playoffs, it's not and I'm not taking
Speaker 3: shots here. This, I think is a very sober reading
Speaker 3: of it. If you were to say, okay, let's draw
Speaker 3: out worst case best case for the superstars of the league, right,
Speaker 3: I think the worst case scenario for Kevin Durant would
Speaker 3: have been I get swept in Round one and don't
Speaker 3: play well and the Warriors win the championship. I can't
Speaker 3: think of a bar, right, And that is exactly what happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other person who didn't play in these finals, who
Speaker 3: it's hard to have anything happen in the NBA and
Speaker 3: not have the discussion at some point, get to does
Speaker 3: it impact his legacy is Lebron. So what I think
Speaker 3: people are going to say, is some would say, and
Speaker 3: they I mean they won't be wrong, is there's a
Speaker 3: Lebron James era and he doesn't even have the most
Speaker 3: rings in it. Steph has the same amount as is
Speaker 3: dre Klay and Iggy but we're talking about star players, right,
Speaker 3: Lebron's got four? Steph has four? Does that hurt you know?
Speaker 3: His case that I believe he's the greatest player ever. Now,
Speaker 3: I understand you might laugh at this, and some people
Speaker 3: are gonna say I'm playing favorites here. I think one
Speaker 3: could make an argument that it helps his case.
Speaker 4: Yeah. You know that tweet that you released about me?
Speaker 4: What tweet that I live?
Speaker 5: Look at Dewanse byrd right now? Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 5: this You've got that same situation.
Speaker 3: Okay, can I explain? Let me let me see if
Speaker 3: I can convince you.
Speaker 4: Let's get it.
Speaker 3: Okay, why does Lebron James not have more titles? Well,
Speaker 3: there's twenty eleven that he did to himself, right, we
Speaker 3: melt down. Aside from that, why doesn't he have more titles?
Speaker 3: Because of the Golden State Warriors at Lebron's apex prime,
Speaker 3: he played them four years in a row, he lost
Speaker 3: to them three times. If not for the Golden State Warriors,
Speaker 3: he would have more titles. We all agree, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: that was all ready true. Steph climbing the greatest Player pantheon.
Speaker 5: Just makes it even more true and makes it even
Speaker 5: more like, you acceptable, right.
Speaker 3: Why didn't Larry Bird win more than three? Well, Magic
Speaker 3: Johnson was winning a bunch. Then do we hold that
Speaker 3: against Larry Nope, because Magic is one of the ten
Speaker 3: greatest players ever. All of a sudden, if at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, Steph right now, who we talked about,
Speaker 3: I think's top twelve of all time. Durant, who I
Speaker 3: think is top sixteen of all time, there's still you know,
Speaker 3: let's just say both of them. One finishes top fifteen,
Speaker 3: one finishes top ten. And I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people already have Durant in the top fifteen and Steph
Speaker 3: in the top ten. And people are looking back, they're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 3: Lebron finished with four or five champions whatever it is,
Speaker 3: like what stood in his way? Oh? Two of his
Speaker 3: best years ever? He made the finals. Was unbelievable in
Speaker 3: those finals, averaging thirty five point triple double across those
Speaker 3: two finals. But two other Pantheon guys were on the
Speaker 3: same team. What would So let me here's the reason.
Speaker 3: I think you can argue this doesn't hurt, in fact
Speaker 3: helps Lebron. And this is the part. This is the
Speaker 3: part that if we're gonna put any of this out
Speaker 3: on social This is the part I went out there
Speaker 3: because if people just see on Nick says this helps
Speaker 3: Lebron's legacy, people are gonna not think it through. Tell
Speaker 3: me if you agree with this, because you know this
Speaker 3: is true. If the Warriors had lost this finals, people
Speaker 3: unequivocally would say, ooh, that hurts Lebron's legacy. You know,
Speaker 3: he lost to a team that wasn't unbeatable, wasn't a juggernaut.
Speaker 3: These kids in Boston beat them. So if the Warriors
Speaker 3: losing the finals, oh Kawhi beat them. Now that now
Speaker 3: the Celtics beat them, like, oh, Lebron couldn't they were
Speaker 3: beatable when they didn't have Durant? Why didn't Lebron win
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen even though his team wasn't That absolutely
Speaker 3: would have been the narrative, a partial narrative had the
Speaker 3: Celtics won. So if the Warriors having had lost this finals,
Speaker 3: I think people would have used it as a little
Speaker 3: shot at Lebron. Then by definition, if we're going to
Speaker 3: be fair and logical, and I as always am an
Speaker 3: impartial observer on this, them winning it, even though it
Speaker 3: you know it gives Steph equal ring count helps Lebron. Now,
Speaker 3: the last thing I wanted to talk about here and
Speaker 3: then we're going to rap is you. Okay, So there
Speaker 3: is a hilarious moment, There is a learning moment, and
Speaker 3: there is a proud moment that I would like to
Speaker 3: discuss with you about these NBA Finals, in these playoffs. Okay,
Speaker 3: are you ready or are you prepared?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to start with the hilarious moment. We're
Speaker 3: watching the game together last night and Demonte is frustrated
Speaker 3: and tilted from the Celtics and all of this, and
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown dribbles the ball off his foot. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: at that moment, because I looked at that moment, Jalen
Speaker 3: Brown had thirty one points in Game six of the
Speaker 3: NBA Finals, and DeMont says to the screen, God, damn it, man,
Speaker 3: I could have played in the NBA and was totally serious.
Speaker 3: Was totally serious because he was so disgusting with Jalen
Speaker 3: Brown's lack of ball handling skill on there. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: this dude is just is dropping thirty in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3: It's not We're not watching a regular season King's game
Speaker 3: where some eleventh guy off the bench comes in or
Speaker 3: he sees Nick Stauskis off the bench for the Celtics,
Speaker 3: He's like, man, why wasn't I Stauscus He's watching Jailen
Speaker 3: Brown and he's like, that should have been me. This
Speaker 3: is bullshit.
Speaker 5: I was not like actually, like, oh, I could have
Speaker 5: really been in the NBA. This guy just shes to
Speaker 5: cook me. But no, it was like a little in
Speaker 5: the moment, Well, I just it would have felt great
Speaker 5: to know that I could turn the ball. That turned
Speaker 5: the ball over that many times. It's still still that
Speaker 5: was the point.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, that's fine, that's the funny moment. Here's the
Speaker 3: learning moment. Okay. I don't want you to say this
Speaker 3: is a do as I say, not as I do.
Speaker 3: What's wrong is everything? Okay, Okay, this is a do
Speaker 3: as I say, not as I do thing, because you know,
Speaker 3: I gamble, and I've tried to communicate to you that
Speaker 3: even though I do it, it's caused me probably as
Speaker 3: much pain as joy in my life. And I don't
Speaker 3: recommend you're flying real high with these little bets you
Speaker 3: were making with your friends about the playoffs, and then
Speaker 3: you got a little over your skis and made a
Speaker 3: big bet. We don't have to say the amount, but
Speaker 3: a big bet. What was it? Five times your regular
Speaker 3: bet sign?
Speaker 4: We didn't know about that?
Speaker 3: Thereabouts three times three times? Yeah, three x what we
Speaker 3: would call that is a three unit wager. And tell
Speaker 3: me if this is true. Did you have a little
Speaker 3: dream about it? The dream at any point? Did it
Speaker 3: disrupt your ability to fall asleep last night or was
Speaker 3: it one of the first things you thought of when
Speaker 3: you woke up this morning?
Speaker 5: I was it was more of a night thing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I figured after I rest put it by And.
Speaker 3: Uh huh is it fully behind you?
Speaker 4: No? I don't. I don't know yet.
Speaker 5: I okay, not necessarily sure, Okay, go ahead. Sorry, I
Speaker 5: broke even broke even as.
Speaker 3: Right, All your hard work gone in an instant. So
Speaker 3: here's listen. This is as as many things with you,
Speaker 3: and this is not just you. This is any young
Speaker 3: person becoming you know, an adult. Your parents can tell
Speaker 3: you as many times this is going to be the
Speaker 3: end result here, and you can say, okay, I get it,
Speaker 3: I get it. In your head you're like, I don't
Speaker 3: know what they're talking about, and then you play out
Speaker 3: the actual life and you're like, damn, how they know?
Speaker 3: And the answer is because I've been there, so like
Speaker 3: you make your own money, you make good money, you're
Speaker 3: gonna make your own decisions. But I do think that's
Speaker 3: a learning moment. Now, allow me to have a proud
Speaker 3: moment here. Okay, obviously this podcast isn't going anywhere, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna be back on Tuesday with a new episode,
Speaker 3: and it'll be challenging for you over the next few
Speaker 3: months because it's no longer the NBA's your favorite sport,
Speaker 3: and there's been games every night, and now this is
Speaker 3: the hardest time to do sports media, the dog days
Speaker 3: of summer. Neither one of us really like baseball, so
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to be creating, you know, content and
Speaker 3: finding interesting things. So that'll be a good challenge for you.
Speaker 3: But to me, this is the the unofficial end of
Speaker 3: the first season of What's Right because we started at
Speaker 3: the stretch run of basketball, and now basketball is over.
Speaker 3: And I told you when we started that you're gonna
Speaker 3: feel great about our first show and about our second show,
Speaker 3: and that if you went back a month later and
Speaker 3: watched it, you would say, oh my god, I'm so
Speaker 3: much better than I was. I want you today to
Speaker 3: you don't have to watch the whole thing, but go
Speaker 3: to our YouTube page and check out a few clips
Speaker 3: from our first month of shows, and then check out
Speaker 3: a few clips from our second month of shows, and
Speaker 3: then check out a clip from the show that from
Speaker 3: today's show or the one that posts earlier this week.
Speaker 3: Your not only development growth and maturity on the air
Speaker 3: is has been exponential, but also your intuition into how
Speaker 3: you know to establish a take like I'm the Celtics
Speaker 3: guy and live and die with it and ride with it.
Speaker 3: It has been one of the true joys of my
Speaker 3: adult life to share these last few months doing this
Speaker 3: with you and to watch you do it. I was
Speaker 3: part of the reason I was pulling for the Celtics
Speaker 3: was because I wanted you to have the ultimate victory there.
Speaker 3: But either way that you can't impact how you what
Speaker 3: you've done, and you becoming a true contributor to the
Speaker 3: show on the air, which is really it's really been
Speaker 3: a total joy for me, and I'm proud of you
Speaker 3: and I love you, and it's been it's been just
Speaker 3: great to be a part of it.
Speaker 4: I really appreciate that pop. So this is we're all
Speaker 4: care I feel like I don't know. No, you'll hug, but.
Speaker 3: It's all right. So it's all right. And by the way,
Speaker 3: it's really good. He's gotten much better and so good
Speaker 3: on the air because technically he was hired to do
Speaker 3: the tech stuff and he still can't figure that shit out.
Speaker 3: I'm over here getting microphones together before the show, so
Speaker 3: there is a value add there. We'll talk to you
Speaker 3: guys on Sunday to continue the countdown. Regular episode out
Speaker 3: on Tuesday. Enjoy your weekend. Happy Father's Day, everybody,