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<v Speaker 3>If the Warriors had lost this finals, people unequivocally would say, ooh,

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<v Speaker 3>that hurts Lebron's legacy. You know, he lost to a

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<v Speaker 3>team that wasn't unbeatable, wasn't a juggernaut. These kids in

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<v Speaker 3>Boston beatle Welcome in What's Right with Nick Right the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast and YouTube show. As we sit here the day

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<v Speaker 3>after the NBA champion has been crowned, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to act like it's a sad day, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a very exciting day. It's an exciting day for the NBA,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an exciting day for NBA history. It however, is

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a sad day for me financially. It

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<v Speaker 3>is a very sad day for my dear son, whose

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<v Speaker 3>beloved Boston Celtics, who seem he has ridden throughout these playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked so good just a week ago, and then

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<v Speaker 3>a team that had not lost back to back games

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<v Speaker 3>except for once in the last five months, and the

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<v Speaker 3>one time they lost back to back they were rested

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<v Speaker 3>four starters finished their season losing three consecutive games. So

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<v Speaker 3>here's what I would like to do today. Because today

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<v Speaker 3>is a shorter show than usual, We're just going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk NBA Finals, just going to talk about Game six

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<v Speaker 3>and then we'll be back on our regular schedule. This

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<v Speaker 3>weekend we have our continue the countdown of the fifty

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<v Speaker 3>Guarders players last fifty years. Players twelve through ten come

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<v Speaker 3>out this weekend, and then next Tuesday we'll have a

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<v Speaker 3>regular episode. Here's how I would like to format today's show, DEMONSA.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk Warriors. Then I want to talk Celtics.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I want to talk a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 3>tangential other NBA stories that are affected by the Warriors

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<v Speaker 3>winning the title. Then I want to talk about you,

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<v Speaker 3>but not the way you expect. So those are the

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<v Speaker 3>four things we must do today. How are we gonna

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<v Speaker 3>lead off? Well, let me lead off with this. First

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<v Speaker 3>of all, are you doing okay?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure? Yeah? Are you more wounded by your

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<v Speaker 3>team's loss or by your financial loss?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm more affected by the money.

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<v Speaker 3>Buy the money? Okay. That will be discussed at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the show. However, we must start with the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 3>I assume we're starting with Steph, but I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 3>you lead us there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Boston kind of started off hot, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the Warriors took over.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fourteen to two, and then that was basically the

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<v Speaker 3>end of their good offense for the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 5>But Steph wins his fourth title, and along with that,

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<v Speaker 5>he goes thirty four and seven and seven in the

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<v Speaker 5>closeout game and finally wins finals MVP.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep. Is this Curry's greatest achievement in his career.

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<v Speaker 3>No question about it. Okay, there is no doubt about

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<v Speaker 3>This is Steph Curry's crowning achievement. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>because it was his best finals. It was without at though.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just because it was his first finals MVP.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, here's the thing. I know a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people like to say, well, he should have

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<v Speaker 3>had one before. I don't believe that. I believe in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fifteen he was more deserving the Niguadala. But in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fifteen, the man who deserved finals MVP was Lebron.

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<v Speaker 3>This was, without a doubt, the first he's played in

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<v Speaker 3>six finals. This was his first finals where no one

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<v Speaker 3>would argue someone on his team or the other team

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<v Speaker 3>was better than him. This was the first finals where

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<v Speaker 3>it was clear and obvious he was the biggest problem

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<v Speaker 3>for the opposition on the court, and they had no

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<v Speaker 3>answer for him. He had a bad Game five, But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really even think that's because Boston guarded him

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<v Speaker 3>that well. I think it's because he miss shots. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of that over nine from three, A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>those were open threes. And for Steph Curry to be

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<v Speaker 3>the architect of the best dynasty since Michael and Scotti's Bulls,

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<v Speaker 3>it is is an unimpeachable basketball resume he now has.

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<v Speaker 3>He now has a finals where he was brilliant start

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<v Speaker 3>to finish. He has the crowning achievement of the game

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<v Speaker 3>four of those finals down to one, a forty three

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<v Speaker 3>point masterpiece, a great closeout game. He fought his ass

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<v Speaker 3>off on defense. The Warriors won this series because of

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<v Speaker 3>their defense, and he would listen, he's obviously not a

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<v Speaker 3>great defender. But you weren't watching the twenty fifteen to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen finals as closely as I was. You watch

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<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen with me in my apartment in La it

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<v Speaker 3>was on Father's Day twenty sixteen. But those finals, the

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<v Speaker 3>plan was attack Steph Curry. Attack step Curry, put him

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<v Speaker 3>in picking rolls. He has made himself into an adequate

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<v Speaker 3>enough defender where now you no longer can do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can try to and you can try to wear

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<v Speaker 3>him out, but he is not a turnstile. And also

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<v Speaker 3>he is sut to be the guy for this run

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<v Speaker 3>to help keep the team. I think the Warriors management

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<v Speaker 3>deserves credit. The ownership for spending all that money. Their

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<v Speaker 3>luxury tax bill is off the charts. The management deserves

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<v Speaker 3>credit for not pivoting some They semi pivoted by not

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<v Speaker 3>trading away or by keeping the draft picks and going

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<v Speaker 3>with these young guys Kaminga and Moody who did nothing

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<v Speaker 3>in the finals. They wanted to have a plan long term,

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<v Speaker 3>but they continued to spend to invest in veterans, bring

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<v Speaker 3>back Iguadala, to not flip Andrew Wiggins, all these things

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<v Speaker 3>that cost them enormous amounts of money because they had

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<v Speaker 3>faith that with Steph Curry their viable championship contenders. Despite

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<v Speaker 3>two years ago having one of the worst records in

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<v Speaker 3>basketball when Steph was hurt and last year missing the

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs when Steph was healthy. This is, without a doubt,

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<v Speaker 3>the finest achievement of his career, and it does put

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<v Speaker 3>him into a different stratosphere that next stratosphere. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the question everyone's asking this morning is what stratosphere is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, so he's got four titles, two MVPs and

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<v Speaker 5>one finals MVP and he's one of five guys to

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<v Speaker 5>ever do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep. So where would you put him now on your

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<v Speaker 4>top fifty list?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I'm not going to spoil the top fifty

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<v Speaker 3>list entirely. What I am going to tell you is this,

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<v Speaker 3>the top fifty list is just the last fifty years.

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<v Speaker 3>But what everyone else is doing today is is he

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<v Speaker 3>one of the ten greatest players ever?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>The problem with a ten person list is we have

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<v Speaker 3>talked about many times, is there are only room for

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<v Speaker 3>ten people on it. And in my opinion, there are

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<v Speaker 3>a few guys who it is inarguable, right, so lebron

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<v Speaker 3>Kareem and Michael it is inarguable that Steph is not

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<v Speaker 3>there yet. I believe it is inarguable he is not

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<v Speaker 3>there with Wilton Russell. So now we're at five. I

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<v Speaker 3>do not think he is yet to Magic, certainly not

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<v Speaker 3>to Magic or Bird. One could say Bird's a little argule.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he has yet surpassed Duncan or Kobe.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you also still have Shaq in a team

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<v Speaker 3>that's eleven people. So is he and my all time

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<v Speaker 3>top ten? He is not? Is he banging on the door?

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<v Speaker 3>He is? Do I think? And nobody's having this discussion today.

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<v Speaker 3>But when it's all said and done, if we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to take someone from the top ten, if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>order it, you just have ten guys and you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to replace one of them with Steph. The guy whose

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<v Speaker 3>resume stephs is going to I believe match up quite

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<v Speaker 3>favorably too, because they're gonna have the same blemishes, which

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<v Speaker 3>is missed the playoffs during their prime, won some of

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<v Speaker 3>his titles with a guy who might be the best

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<v Speaker 3>player in the league, had some really rough final moments,

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<v Speaker 3>but went to a bunch of finals, won a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of rings. That guy is Kobe Bryant, and nobody's kicking

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<v Speaker 3>Kobe out for Steph right now, but Kobe's that listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Steph has two titles with Durant, well, Kobe has three

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<v Speaker 3>with Shak says Kobe won. Kobe didn't win finals MVP

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<v Speaker 3>that year. Step didn't win finals MVP that year. Steph

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<v Speaker 3>missed the playoffs two straight years. Kobe the first three

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<v Speaker 3>year Shack was gone, missed the playoffs once and two

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<v Speaker 3>straight first round exits. Kobe then had the renaissance with pal.

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<v Speaker 3>Kobe also was bad in the four finals, was mediocre

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<v Speaker 3>in the two thousand finals. Like these are real things.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I do think that we've got to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 3>that if you're if you want to have the Steph

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<v Speaker 3>belongs in the top ten discussion, it's going to get

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<v Speaker 3>quite uncomfortable on the people you might have to push out.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I don't think he's top ten all time yet. However,

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<v Speaker 3>it would foolish to say he can't get there because

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<v Speaker 3>he if he wins another ring, it has to matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Going into this season, I had him behind Durant, Moses

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<v Speaker 3>and Doctor J. He passed Durant. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>spoil too much of Sunday, but you know what, I

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go ahead and spoil some of it. He passed Moses,

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<v Speaker 3>and he and Doctor J. If he was neck and

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<v Speaker 3>neck with Doctor J going into the finals, then doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>he almost by definition, have to pass Doctor J by

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<v Speaker 3>virtue of winning the finals? Probably now is that enough

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<v Speaker 3>for me to put him a head of Shack or

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<v Speaker 3>a cheme much less Bird or Kobe or duncan not yet.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's got time left. And there's one other thing

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say about the Warriors before we get

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<v Speaker 3>to your Celtics, which is there is massive credit that

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<v Speaker 3>Klay Thompson gets for fighting through the hell of the

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<v Speaker 3>previous two years. And even though Draymond used his podcast

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<v Speaker 3>to roast me today by name saying I know nothing

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<v Speaker 3>about basketball, that's fine Draymond to take his victory lap.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna use mine to give him some credit. He

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<v Speaker 3>was miserable, miserable the first three games of this series,

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<v Speaker 3>truly awful in games one and three. He had a

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<v Speaker 3>moment in Game four of goodness after being benched and

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<v Speaker 3>after his mom called him out. Game five, he was fine,

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<v Speaker 3>but going into Game six, Draymond was having a horrific

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<v Speaker 3>NBA Finals by eye test, stat opinion of his own mother.

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<v Speaker 3>And then last night in Game six, he was outstanding.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a force on defense, he kept his cool. Yeah, though,

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<v Speaker 3>those Draymond backpack threes when he makes them, they're so

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<v Speaker 3>heartbreaking for the opposition, and that is what a champion does.

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<v Speaker 3>Game seven of the twenty sixteen Finals, when Steph had

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<v Speaker 3>what he called the worst game of his career. Draymond

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<v Speaker 3>had arguably the best game of his YEP, I think

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<v Speaker 3>he had thirty two fifteen and nine. I'd have to look.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I will look it up to be sure.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a game seven of the Finals, and Draymond

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<v Speaker 3>showed up and showed the hell out twenty sixteen Finals

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<v Speaker 3>Game seven, he had thirty two, fifteen and nine. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good at that stuff, just remembering. I hadn't even

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<v Speaker 3>looked at it, but I knew. I knew he was

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<v Speaker 3>just shy of the triple double. And so Draymond, listen.

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<v Speaker 3>This goes on the resid on on the resume for

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<v Speaker 3>Draymond in a finals where going into game six he

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<v Speaker 3>was averaging fewer the same number of points five thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>five points per game, rebound, seven rebounds, five assists on

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight percent shooting zero percent from three is what

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<v Speaker 3>he was averaging going into game set. And in game

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<v Speaker 3>six he hit half his shots. He hit two threes,

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<v Speaker 3>He had twelve points, twelve rebounds, eight assists, only one foul,

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<v Speaker 3>and played a hell of a defensive game. Draymond gets credit.

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<v Speaker 3>You listen, when you win, you get credit. When you

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<v Speaker 3>play well in the win, you get credit, so he

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<v Speaker 3>gets credit. Now, are you ready yet to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>your Celtics?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do? Forget what the forget what the script says.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just you and me talk. What's your opinion of

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<v Speaker 3>what happened to the Celtics the final three games.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to say that they were scared. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think that they were scared.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that there were times where they just played

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<v Speaker 5>like they it's like high school basketball. Like coming into

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<v Speaker 5>Game six, I thought that the mistake they made in

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<v Speaker 5>the last couple of games, and very easy mistakes to

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<v Speaker 5>fix it was like, you know, the one thing that

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<v Speaker 5>you can't do. It's it's I feel like, easy stuff

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<v Speaker 5>to capitalize on, which is free throws and turnovers. And

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<v Speaker 5>they just went out there and did the same thing again.

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<v Speaker 3>Throw because they weren't getting to the free throw line

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<v Speaker 3>the way they needed to.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly, and like obviously Marcus Smart didn't show up, And

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<v Speaker 5>a big thing for the Celtics in this postseason run,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like was the role players, and the role

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<v Speaker 5>players were basically absent.

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<v Speaker 4>In the Warriors series. It seemed like after Game.

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<v Speaker 3>One, Yeah, exactly, Okay. So all that's true and all

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<v Speaker 3>that's accurate. But the name you didn't mention there that

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<v Speaker 3>we need to discuss.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Jason Tae.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, because I said, going into game six, I

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<v Speaker 3>thought Horford and Brown would have big games. Jalen Brown

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<v Speaker 3>had thirty four points on twenty three shots. Al Horford

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<v Speaker 3>had nineteen points on eight shots to go along with

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen rebounds. Right, Staff played really well, but Clay was

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<v Speaker 3>not good. Clay was five of twenty. So if I

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<v Speaker 3>tell you STEP's going to be really good, but Clay's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be bad, Corford and Brown are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be excellent. It's in Boston. The answers were seeing we're

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<v Speaker 3>getting a game seven and they didn't get a game seven. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone was turning the ball over. Brown turned the ball over,

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<v Speaker 3>but Tatum turned the ball over as well. Tatum had

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<v Speaker 3>two points in the second half. Tatum was six of

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen for the game, and he had thirteen points. He

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<v Speaker 3>was having a rough series and he had going into

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<v Speaker 3>game six he hadn't been good and in Game six

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<v Speaker 3>he was awful. These things are true. Now what does

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<v Speaker 3>that mean for Jason Tatum moving forward? I believe it

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<v Speaker 3>will be a net positive for him. It's not a guarantee, though.

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<v Speaker 3>The concern if you're a Celtics fan is is this

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<v Speaker 3>going to scar Jason Tatum?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this going to.

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<v Speaker 4>He seemed to be pretty down on himself. Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this going to stunt his development? I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it will. I think instead this will fuel Jason Tatum.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Jason Tatum is wildly talented, and when it's

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<v Speaker 3>going well for him, he does look like kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a poor man's combination of Durant and Kobe. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, like Durant's smoothness and defensive versatility,

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<v Speaker 3>Kobe's impossible shot making. And when I say poor man's

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<v Speaker 3>that's only because those are two of the sixteen seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>greatest players ever. So you could be a poor man's

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<v Speaker 3>version of that and still an all time great player.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem for Tatum is when it's not going well,

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<v Speaker 3>he gets nothing easy like what the best players understand is.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason that the true best players in the

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<v Speaker 3>league rarely have actually bad games, They just have bad

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<v Speaker 3>games by their standards, is they find their way to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four points, they will get to the free throw line.

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<v Speaker 3>Tatum was shying from contact. Tatum absolutely, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>very clear from Game one the moment was a little

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<v Speaker 3>too big for n And that's by the way, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to make this clear. Lebron James. I believe he's

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest player ever. Lebron James in his first Finals,

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<v Speaker 3>the moment wasn't too big for him. He just he

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<v Speaker 3>averaged almost identical to Tatum's statline, including shooting percentage. This series. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron was twenty two. They were playing a Spurs team

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<v Speaker 3>that's better than this Warriors team, but still wasn't great.

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<v Speaker 3>But Lebron in his second Finals, when he was twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>guess what, the moment was too big for him. He

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<v Speaker 3>got nervous, he got a little scared, and he was

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen points per game in that series against the MAVs.

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<v Speaker 3>This happens, so it is not career defining. The tough

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<v Speaker 3>part for Boston is this glass half full. Is everybody's back.

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<v Speaker 3>You have everyone under contract. It's not a situation like

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<v Speaker 3>the MAVs are in where it's like, hey, we had

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<v Speaker 3>this really good season, but Jalen Brunson might league. We

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<v Speaker 3>want to have to remake some things. Everyone that matters

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<v Speaker 3>is under contract, and everyone but Horford is young. The

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<v Speaker 3>glass half empty thing is this Joannis ain't going anywhere?

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<v Speaker 3>And after watching these full playoffs, do you believe like

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that if Chris Middleton hadn't gotten hurt, the

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<v Speaker 3>Milwaukee Bucks are champions.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I just had this conversation with Daniel last night.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not. I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't, I don't what everybody always wants to talk about. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>such and such was hurt, this and that. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>well everybody is, everybody's getting hurt. There's gonna be people

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<v Speaker 5>that are hurt. It doesn't It's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, So I'm not talking about that as

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<v Speaker 3>a look back on someone accomplished next year. Correct. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about if you're moving forward. I don't think I

0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.040
<v Speaker 3>think I think a ball moving forward. Looks at them

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<v Speaker 3>against Brooklyn, they say, man, kiss my ass. We swept you.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you have been Simmons back. We know how

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<v Speaker 3>to defend you. We beat you four games to nothing. Mie, Milwaukee,

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, all right, we were down three to two

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<v Speaker 3>game six. It took the best game of Tatum's life.

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<v Speaker 3>We won the series in seven, and you didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>your second best player that's concerning. So that's where if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm if I'm Boston, I do think Boston will be

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<v Speaker 3>better than Brooklyn next year. I don't know what Philly's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be. Miami is an older team, not a younger team.

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<v Speaker 3>Boston should be a clear cut second best team in

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<v Speaker 3>the East. But Vegas has them as the best team

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<v Speaker 3>in the East going into next year, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe that. I think Milwaukee is the best team in basketball.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that there's I mean, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>the Bucks. The Bucks are like they average, kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like middle aged. They're not like super young, but they're

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<v Speaker 5>also not old.

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<v Speaker 3>No exactly right, No, it's kind of perfect. Guys are

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<v Speaker 3>like in the prime of their career.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think between now and then, I think that

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<v Speaker 5>with the Celtics just going to the finals, they know

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what they have to work on, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>the development from now until the next time that they

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<v Speaker 5>possibly see the Bucks or whoever it may be, that

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<v Speaker 5>they will be ready for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's the hope, right, The hope is exactly that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that the Celtics are a young team that guys

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<v Speaker 3>are entering their prime. Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum are

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<v Speaker 3>entering their prime. Marcus Smart just started his prime. Time Lord.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing for you guys is this time lord's

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<v Speaker 3>got to get healthy like time. Lord. Robert Williams, who's

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<v Speaker 3>been your guy for some time, huge factor, huge factor

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<v Speaker 3>when he was able to be out there, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was not able to be out there as often or

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<v Speaker 3>as long as you would have won it right. So,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought Udoka, who's been excellent, made some real

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<v Speaker 3>mistakes last night as far as playing why and and

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<v Speaker 3>Pritchard early. He didn't he needed to go into last

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<v Speaker 3>night's game. And I understand the thought process is this,

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<v Speaker 3>we we have to win twice, so play. If playing

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<v Speaker 3>Brown and Tatum forty six minutes each leaves us with

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<v Speaker 3>no chance to win game seven, then what's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what did we accomplish? I would argue that's the wrong

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<v Speaker 3>thought process. The wrong thought process is you must get

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<v Speaker 3>to game seven by any means necessary. And then who

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<v Speaker 3>the hell knows what happens?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows if somebody tightens up on the other team,

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<v Speaker 3>If all of a sudden, Grant Williams has this amazing

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<v Speaker 3>shooting night like he didn't games something, it'st Milwaukee, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought early in the game, when you guys were

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<v Speaker 3>rolling going to the bench and letting the Warriors immediately

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<v Speaker 3>take back control, that's something that listen, whodoak as a

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<v Speaker 3>rookie coach. It's something though that I believe, will you know,

0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 3>give him sleepless nights over the summers. Now, there's two

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<v Speaker 3>other people I want to talk about before we get

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<v Speaker 3>to you, Okay. The first one is Kevin Durant, because well,

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<v Speaker 3>no people are going.

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<v Speaker 4>To ask the question what does this mean for his legacy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think Katie might have been more pissed than

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<v Speaker 4>me last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I think Katie is not as it's weird. He

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<v Speaker 3>obviously cares what people say, but I don't think it

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<v Speaker 3>affects like it changes his own opinion of his I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's like the thing is go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that'll actually mess with him in his head.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I don't think it really matters what other people

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<v Speaker 5>are saying as far as like, cause I think that

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<v Speaker 5>he thinks that he is a major reason. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously he has some type of responsibility for the championship

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<v Speaker 5>that they won when he was on the team.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think like in his head. Like them winning this,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>It's obviously painful for him, right, there's just no way

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<v Speaker 3>around that. The fact that they now won without him

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<v Speaker 3>and beat the team that swept him. That's like if

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<v Speaker 3>going into these playoffs, it's not and I'm not taking

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<v Speaker 3>shots here. This, I think is a very sober reading

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<v Speaker 3>of it. If you were to say, okay, let's draw

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 3>out worst case best case for the superstars of the league, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the worst case scenario for Kevin Durant would

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<v Speaker 3>have been I get swept in Round one and don't

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<v Speaker 3>play well and the Warriors win the championship. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>think of a bar, right, And that is exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The other person who didn't play in these finals, who

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to have anything happen in the NBA and

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<v Speaker 3>not have the discussion at some point, get to does

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<v Speaker 3>it impact his legacy is Lebron. So what I think

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<v Speaker 3>people are going to say, is some would say, and

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<v Speaker 3>they I mean they won't be wrong, is there's a

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron James era and he doesn't even have the most

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<v Speaker 3>rings in it. Steph has the same amount as is

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<v Speaker 3>dre Klay and Iggy but we're talking about star players, right,

0:23:56.119 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Lebron's got four? Steph has four? Does that hurt you know?

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<v Speaker 3>His case that I believe he's the greatest player ever. Now,

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 3>I understand you might laugh at this, and some people

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 3>are gonna say I'm playing favorites here. I think one

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 3>could make an argument that it helps his case.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. You know that tweet that you released about me?

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 4>What tweet that I live?

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<v Speaker 5>Look at Dewanse byrd right now? Yeah, yeah, I think

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 5>this You've got that same situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, can I explain? Let me let me see if

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<v Speaker 3>I can convince you.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, why does Lebron James not have more titles? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's twenty eleven that he did to himself, right, we

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 3>melt down. Aside from that, why doesn't he have more titles?

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<v Speaker 3>Because of the Golden State Warriors at Lebron's apex prime,

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 3>he played them four years in a row, he lost

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 3>to them three times. If not for the Golden State Warriors,

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<v Speaker 3>he would have more titles. We all agree, right, Okay,

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:06.879
<v Speaker 3>that was all ready true. Steph climbing the greatest Player pantheon.

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<v Speaker 5>Just makes it even more true and makes it even

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<v Speaker 5>more like, you acceptable, right.

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Why didn't Larry Bird win more than three? Well, Magic

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Johnson was winning a bunch. Then do we hold that

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 3>against Larry Nope, because Magic is one of the ten

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<v Speaker 3>greatest players ever. All of a sudden, if at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, Steph right now, who we talked about,

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<v Speaker 3>I think's top twelve of all time. Durant, who I

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<v Speaker 3>think is top sixteen of all time, there's still you know,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just say both of them. One finishes top fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>one finishes top ten. And I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people already have Durant in the top fifteen and Steph

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<v Speaker 3>in the top ten. And people are looking back, they're like, oh, wow,

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 3>Lebron finished with four or five champions whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 3>like what stood in his way? Oh? Two of his

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<v Speaker 3>best years ever? He made the finals. Was unbelievable in

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<v Speaker 3>those finals, averaging thirty five point triple double across those

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<v Speaker 3>two finals. But two other Pantheon guys were on the

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<v Speaker 3>same team. What would So let me here's the reason.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can argue this doesn't hurt, in fact

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 3>helps Lebron. And this is the part. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>part that if we're gonna put any of this out

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<v Speaker 3>on social This is the part I went out there

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 3>because if people just see on Nick says this helps

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron's legacy, people are gonna not think it through. Tell

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<v Speaker 3>me if you agree with this, because you know this

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<v Speaker 3>is true. If the Warriors had lost this finals, people

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<v Speaker 3>unequivocally would say, ooh, that hurts Lebron's legacy. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he lost to a team that wasn't unbeatable, wasn't a juggernaut.

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<v Speaker 3>These kids in Boston beat them. So if the Warriors

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<v Speaker 3>losing the finals, oh Kawhi beat them. Now that now

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<v Speaker 3>the Celtics beat them, like, oh, Lebron couldn't they were

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<v Speaker 3>beatable when they didn't have Durant? Why didn't Lebron win

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty fifteen even though his team wasn't That absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>would have been the narrative, a partial narrative had the

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<v Speaker 3>Celtics won. So if the Warriors having had lost this finals,

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<v Speaker 3>I think people would have used it as a little

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<v Speaker 3>shot at Lebron. Then by definition, if we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be fair and logical, and I as always am an

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<v Speaker 3>impartial observer on this, them winning it, even though it

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<v Speaker 3>you know it gives Steph equal ring count helps Lebron. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the last thing I wanted to talk about here and

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<v Speaker 3>then we're going to rap is you. Okay, So there

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<v Speaker 3>is a hilarious moment, There is a learning moment, and

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<v Speaker 3>there is a proud moment that I would like to

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<v Speaker 3>discuss with you about these NBA Finals, in these playoffs. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>are you ready or are you prepared?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to start with the hilarious moment. We're

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<v Speaker 3>watching the game together last night and Demonte is frustrated

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 3>and tilted from the Celtics and all of this, and

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Brown dribbles the ball off his foot. Yeah, and

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 3>at that moment, because I looked at that moment, Jalen

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 3>Brown had thirty one points in Game six of the

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<v Speaker 3>NBA Finals, and DeMont says to the screen, God, damn it, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I could have played in the NBA and was totally serious.

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<v Speaker 3>Was totally serious because he was so disgusting with Jalen

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Brown's lack of ball handling skill on there. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>this dude is just is dropping thirty in the NBA Finals.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not We're not watching a regular season King's game

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<v Speaker 3>where some eleventh guy off the bench comes in or

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 3>he sees Nick Stauskis off the bench for the Celtics,

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 3>He's like, man, why wasn't I Stauscus He's watching Jailen

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Brown and he's like, that should have been me. This

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<v Speaker 3>is bullshit.

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<v Speaker 5>I was not like actually, like, oh, I could have

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<v Speaker 5>really been in the NBA. This guy just shes to

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<v Speaker 5>cook me. But no, it was like a little in

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<v Speaker 5>the moment, Well, I just it would have felt great

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 5>to know that I could turn the ball. That turned

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 5>the ball over that many times. It's still still that

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 5>was the point.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, No, that's fine, that's the funny moment. Here's the

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<v Speaker 3>learning moment. Okay. I don't want you to say this

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<v Speaker 3>is a do as I say, not as I do.

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 3>What's wrong is everything? Okay, Okay, this is a do

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<v Speaker 3>as I say, not as I do thing, because you know,

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 3>I gamble, and I've tried to communicate to you that

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<v Speaker 3>even though I do it, it's caused me probably as

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<v Speaker 3>much pain as joy in my life. And I don't

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 3>recommend you're flying real high with these little bets you

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 3>were making with your friends about the playoffs, and then

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 3>you got a little over your skis and made a

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 3>big bet. We don't have to say the amount, but

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 3>a big bet. What was it? Five times your regular

0:29:59.440 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>bet sign?

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't know about that?

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Thereabouts three times three times? Yeah, three x what we

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 3>would call that is a three unit wager. And tell

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 3>me if this is true. Did you have a little

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 3>dream about it? The dream at any point? Did it

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 3>disrupt your ability to fall asleep last night or was

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<v Speaker 3>it one of the first things you thought of when

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<v Speaker 3>you woke up this morning?

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<v Speaker 5>I was it was more of a night thing. Yeah,

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 5>I figured after I rest put it by And.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh is it fully behind you?

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 4>No? I don't. I don't know yet.

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 5>I okay, not necessarily sure, Okay, go ahead. Sorry, I

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 5>broke even broke even as.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, All your hard work gone in an instant. So

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 3>here's listen. This is as as many things with you,

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 3>and this is not just you. This is any young

0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 3>person becoming you know, an adult. Your parents can tell

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 3>you as many times this is going to be the

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 3>end result here, and you can say, okay, I get it,

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I get it. In your head you're like, I don't

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 3>know what they're talking about, and then you play out

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 3>the actual life and you're like, damn, how they know?

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 3>And the answer is because I've been there, so like

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 3>you make your own money, you make good money, you're

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 3>gonna make your own decisions. But I do think that's

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:27.959
<v Speaker 3>a learning moment. Now, allow me to have a proud

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 3>moment here. Okay, obviously this podcast isn't going anywhere, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna be back on Tuesday with a new episode,

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 3>and it'll be challenging for you over the next few

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<v Speaker 3>months because it's no longer the NBA's your favorite sport,

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 3>and there's been games every night, and now this is

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 3>the hardest time to do sports media, the dog days

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 3>of summer. Neither one of us really like baseball, so

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna have to be creating, you know, content and

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 3>finding interesting things. So that'll be a good challenge for you.

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<v Speaker 3>But to me, this is the the unofficial end of

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<v Speaker 3>the first season of What's Right because we started at

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 3>the stretch run of basketball, and now basketball is over.

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 3>And I told you when we started that you're gonna

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 3>feel great about our first show and about our second show,

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 3>and that if you went back a month later and

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 3>watched it, you would say, oh my god, I'm so

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>much better than I was. I want you today to

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to watch the whole thing, but go

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 3>to our YouTube page and check out a few clips

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 3>from our first month of shows, and then check out

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 3>a few clips from our second month of shows, and

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<v Speaker 3>then check out a clip from the show that from

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 3>today's show or the one that posts earlier this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Your not only development growth and maturity on the air

0:32:55.760 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 3>is has been exponential, but also your intuition into how

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 3>you know to establish a take like I'm the Celtics

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 3>guy and live and die with it and ride with it.

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 3>It has been one of the true joys of my

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<v Speaker 3>adult life to share these last few months doing this

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>with you and to watch you do it. I was

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 3>part of the reason I was pulling for the Celtics

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 3>was because I wanted you to have the ultimate victory there.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 3>But either way that you can't impact how you what

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 3>you've done, and you becoming a true contributor to the

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>show on the air, which is really it's really been

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 3>a total joy for me, and I'm proud of you

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.239
<v Speaker 3>and I love you, and it's been it's been just

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 3>great to be a part of it.

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate that pop. So this is we're all

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 4>care I feel like I don't know. No, you'll hug, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all right. So it's all right. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really good. He's gotten much better and so good

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 3>on the air because technically he was hired to do

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 3>the tech stuff and he still can't figure that shit out.

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm over here getting microphones together before the show, so

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 3>there is a value add there. We'll talk to you

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<v Speaker 3>guys on Sunday to continue the countdown. Regular episode out

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<v Speaker 3>on Tuesday. Enjoy your weekend. Happy Father's Day, everybody,