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Speaker 3: If the Warriors had lost this finals, people unequivocally would say, ooh,

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Speaker 3: that hurts Lebron's legacy. You know, he lost to a

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Speaker 3: team that wasn't unbeatable, wasn't a juggernaut. These kids in

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Speaker 3: Boston beatle Welcome in What's Right with Nick Right the

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Speaker 3: podcast and YouTube show. As we sit here the day

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Speaker 3: after the NBA champion has been crowned, and I don't

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Speaker 3: want to act like it's a sad day, because it's

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Speaker 3: a very exciting day. It's an exciting day for the NBA,

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Speaker 3: it's an exciting day for NBA history. It however, is

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Speaker 3: a bit of a sad day for me financially. It

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Speaker 3: is a very sad day for my dear son, whose

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Speaker 3: beloved Boston Celtics, who seem he has ridden throughout these playoffs.

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Speaker 3: It looked so good just a week ago, and then

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Speaker 3: a team that had not lost back to back games

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Speaker 3: one time they lost back to back they were rested

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Speaker 3: four starters finished their season losing three consecutive games. So

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Speaker 3: here's what I would like to do today. Because today

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Speaker 3: and then we'll be back on our regular schedule. This

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Speaker 3: weekend we have our continue the countdown of the fifty

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Speaker 3: Guarders players last fifty years. Players twelve through ten come

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Speaker 3: out this weekend, and then next Tuesday we'll have a

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Speaker 3: regular episode. Here's how I would like to format today's show, DEMONSA.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk Warriors. Then I want to talk Celtics.

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Speaker 3: Then I want to talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 3: tangential other NBA stories that are affected by the Warriors

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Speaker 3: winning the title. Then I want to talk about you,

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Speaker 3: but not the way you expect. So those are the

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Speaker 3: four things we must do today. How are we gonna

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Speaker 3: lead off? Well, let me lead off with this. First

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Speaker 3: of all, are you doing okay?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure? Yeah? Are you more wounded by your

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Speaker 3: Buy the money? Okay. That will be discussed at the

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Speaker 3: end of the show. However, we must start with the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: I assume we're starting with Steph, but I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Boston kind of started off hot, and then you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen to two, and then that was basically the

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Speaker 4: Exactly unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: But Steph wins his fourth title, and along with that,

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Speaker 4: Yep. Is this Curry's greatest achievement in his career.

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Speaker 3: No question about it. Okay, there is no doubt about

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Speaker 3: This is Steph Curry's crowning achievement. And it's not just

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen he was more deserving the Niguadala. But in

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Speaker 3: This was, without a doubt, the first he's played in

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen with me in my apartment in La it

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm not going to spoil the top fifty

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Speaker 3: The problem with a ten person list is we have

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Speaker 3: Steph has two titles with Durant, well, Kobe has three

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Speaker 3: Going into this season, I had him behind Durant, Moses

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Speaker 3: And then last night in Game six, he was outstanding.

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Speaker 3: Game seven of the twenty sixteen Finals, when Steph had

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Speaker 3: The problem for Tatum is when it's not going well,

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Speaker 3: Lebron was twenty two. They were playing a Spurs team

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Speaker 3: This happens, so it is not career defining. The tough

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Speaker 3: It's like, all right, we were down three to two

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Speaker 3: Listen, I think Katie is not as it's weird. He

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Speaker 5: I think that'll actually mess with him in his head.

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Speaker 4: But I think like in his head. Like them winning this,

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Speaker 3: It's obviously painful for him, right, there's just no way

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Speaker 3: think of a bar, right, And that is exactly what happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You know that tweet that you released about me?

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Speaker 4: What tweet that I live?

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Speaker 5: Look at Dewanse byrd right now? Yeah, yeah, I think

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Speaker 5: this You've got that same situation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, can I explain? Let me let me see if

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Speaker 3: I can convince you.

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Speaker 4: Let's get it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, why does Lebron James not have more titles? Well,

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Speaker 3: there's twenty eleven that he did to himself, right, we

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Speaker 3: melt down. Aside from that, why doesn't he have more titles?

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Speaker 3: Because of the Golden State Warriors at Lebron's apex prime,

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Speaker 3: he played them four years in a row, he lost

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Speaker 3: to them three times. If not for the Golden State Warriors,

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Speaker 3: he would have more titles. We all agree, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: that was all ready true. Steph climbing the greatest Player pantheon.

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Speaker 5: Just makes it even more true and makes it even

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Speaker 5: more like, you acceptable, right.

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Speaker 3: Why didn't Larry Bird win more than three? Well, Magic

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Speaker 3: Johnson was winning a bunch. Then do we hold that

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Speaker 3: against Larry Nope, because Magic is one of the ten

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Speaker 3: greatest players ever. All of a sudden, if at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, Steph right now, who we talked about,

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Speaker 3: I think's top twelve of all time. Durant, who I

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Speaker 3: think is top sixteen of all time, there's still you know,

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Speaker 3: let's just say both of them. One finishes top fifteen,

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Speaker 3: one finishes top ten. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: people already have Durant in the top fifteen and Steph

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Speaker 3: in the top ten. And people are looking back, they're like, oh, wow,

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Speaker 3: Lebron finished with four or five champions whatever it is,

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Speaker 3: like what stood in his way? Oh? Two of his

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Speaker 3: best years ever? He made the finals. Was unbelievable in

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Speaker 3: those finals, averaging thirty five point triple double across those

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Speaker 3: two finals. But two other Pantheon guys were on the

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Speaker 3: same team. What would So let me here's the reason.

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Speaker 3: I think you can argue this doesn't hurt, in fact

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Speaker 3: helps Lebron. And this is the part. This is the

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Speaker 3: part that if we're gonna put any of this out

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Speaker 3: on social This is the part I went out there

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Speaker 3: because if people just see on Nick says this helps

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Speaker 3: Lebron's legacy, people are gonna not think it through. Tell

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Speaker 3: me if you agree with this, because you know this

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Speaker 3: is true. If the Warriors had lost this finals, people

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Speaker 3: unequivocally would say, ooh, that hurts Lebron's legacy. You know,

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Speaker 3: he lost to a team that wasn't unbeatable, wasn't a juggernaut.

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Speaker 3: These kids in Boston beat them. So if the Warriors

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Speaker 3: losing the finals, oh Kawhi beat them. Now that now

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Speaker 3: the Celtics beat them, like, oh, Lebron couldn't they were

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Speaker 3: beatable when they didn't have Durant? Why didn't Lebron win

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Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen even though his team wasn't That absolutely

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Speaker 3: would have been the narrative, a partial narrative had the

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Speaker 3: Celtics won. So if the Warriors having had lost this finals,

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Speaker 3: I think people would have used it as a little

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Speaker 3: shot at Lebron. Then by definition, if we're going to

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Speaker 3: be fair and logical, and I as always am an

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Speaker 3: impartial observer on this, them winning it, even though it

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Speaker 3: you know it gives Steph equal ring count helps Lebron. Now,

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Speaker 3: the last thing I wanted to talk about here and

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Speaker 3: then we're going to rap is you. Okay, So there

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Speaker 3: is a hilarious moment, There is a learning moment, and

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Speaker 3: there is a proud moment that I would like to

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Speaker 3: discuss with you about these NBA Finals, in these playoffs. Okay,

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Speaker 3: are you ready or are you prepared?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to start with the hilarious moment. We're

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Speaker 3: watching the game together last night and Demonte is frustrated

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Speaker 3: and tilted from the Celtics and all of this, and

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown dribbles the ball off his foot. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: at that moment, because I looked at that moment, Jalen

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Speaker 3: Brown had thirty one points in Game six of the

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Speaker 3: NBA Finals, and DeMont says to the screen, God, damn it, man,

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Speaker 3: I could have played in the NBA and was totally serious.

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Speaker 3: Was totally serious because he was so disgusting with Jalen

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Speaker 3: Brown's lack of ball handling skill on there. And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: this dude is just is dropping thirty in the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: It's not We're not watching a regular season King's game

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Speaker 3: where some eleventh guy off the bench comes in or

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Speaker 3: he sees Nick Stauskis off the bench for the Celtics,

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Speaker 3: He's like, man, why wasn't I Stauscus He's watching Jailen

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Speaker 3: Brown and he's like, that should have been me. This

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Speaker 3: is bullshit.

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Speaker 5: I was not like actually, like, oh, I could have

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Speaker 5: really been in the NBA. This guy just shes to

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Speaker 5: cook me. But no, it was like a little in

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Speaker 5: the moment, Well, I just it would have felt great

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Speaker 5: to know that I could turn the ball. That turned

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Speaker 5: the ball over that many times. It's still still that

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Speaker 5: was the point.

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Speaker 3: Okay, No, that's fine, that's the funny moment. Here's the

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Speaker 3: learning moment. Okay. I don't want you to say this

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Speaker 3: is a do as I say, not as I do.

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Speaker 3: What's wrong is everything? Okay, Okay, this is a do

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Speaker 3: as I say, not as I do thing, because you know,

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Speaker 3: I gamble, and I've tried to communicate to you that

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Speaker 3: even though I do it, it's caused me probably as

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Speaker 3: much pain as joy in my life. And I don't

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Speaker 3: recommend you're flying real high with these little bets you

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Speaker 3: were making with your friends about the playoffs, and then

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Speaker 3: you got a little over your skis and made a

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Speaker 3: big bet. We don't have to say the amount, but

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Speaker 3: a big bet. What was it? Five times your regular

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Speaker 3: bet sign?

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Speaker 4: We didn't know about that?

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Speaker 3: Thereabouts three times three times? Yeah, three x what we

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Speaker 3: would call that is a three unit wager. And tell

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Speaker 3: me if this is true. Did you have a little

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Speaker 3: dream about it? The dream at any point? Did it

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Speaker 3: disrupt your ability to fall asleep last night or was

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Speaker 3: it one of the first things you thought of when

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Speaker 3: you woke up this morning?

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Speaker 5: I was it was more of a night thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I figured after I rest put it by And.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh is it fully behind you?

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Speaker 4: No? I don't. I don't know yet.

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Speaker 5: I okay, not necessarily sure, Okay, go ahead. Sorry, I

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Speaker 5: broke even broke even as.

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Speaker 3: Right, All your hard work gone in an instant. So

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Speaker 3: here's listen. This is as as many things with you,

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Speaker 3: and this is not just you. This is any young

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Speaker 3: person becoming you know, an adult. Your parents can tell

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Speaker 3: you as many times this is going to be the

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Speaker 3: end result here, and you can say, okay, I get it,

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Speaker 3: I get it. In your head you're like, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what they're talking about, and then you play out

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Speaker 3: the actual life and you're like, damn, how they know?

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Speaker 3: And the answer is because I've been there, so like

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Speaker 3: you make your own money, you make good money, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna make your own decisions. But I do think that's

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Speaker 3: a learning moment. Now, allow me to have a proud

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Speaker 3: moment here. Okay, obviously this podcast isn't going anywhere, and

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be back on Tuesday with a new episode,

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Speaker 3: and it'll be challenging for you over the next few

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Speaker 3: months because it's no longer the NBA's your favorite sport,

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Speaker 3: and there's been games every night, and now this is

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Speaker 3: the hardest time to do sports media, the dog days

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Speaker 3: of summer. Neither one of us really like baseball, so

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have to be creating, you know, content and

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Speaker 3: finding interesting things. So that'll be a good challenge for you.

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Speaker 3: But to me, this is the the unofficial end of

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Speaker 3: the first season of What's Right because we started at

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Speaker 3: the stretch run of basketball, and now basketball is over.

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Speaker 3: And I told you when we started that you're gonna

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Speaker 3: feel great about our first show and about our second show,

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Speaker 3: and that if you went back a month later and

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Speaker 3: watched it, you would say, oh my god, I'm so

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Speaker 3: much better than I was. I want you today to

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Speaker 3: you don't have to watch the whole thing, but go

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Speaker 3: to our YouTube page and check out a few clips

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Speaker 3: from our first month of shows, and then check out

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Speaker 3: a few clips from our second month of shows, and

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Speaker 3: then check out a clip from the show that from

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Speaker 3: today's show or the one that posts earlier this week.

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Speaker 3: Your not only development growth and maturity on the air

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Speaker 3: is has been exponential, but also your intuition into how

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Speaker 3: you know to establish a take like I'm the Celtics

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Speaker 3: guy and live and die with it and ride with it.

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Speaker 3: It has been one of the true joys of my

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Speaker 3: adult life to share these last few months doing this

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Speaker 3: with you and to watch you do it. I was

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Speaker 3: part of the reason I was pulling for the Celtics

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Speaker 3: was because I wanted you to have the ultimate victory there.

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Speaker 3: But either way that you can't impact how you what

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Speaker 3: you've done, and you becoming a true contributor to the

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Speaker 3: show on the air, which is really it's really been

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Speaker 3: a total joy for me, and I'm proud of you

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Speaker 3: and I love you, and it's been it's been just

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Speaker 3: great to be a part of it.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate that pop. So this is we're all

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Speaker 4: care I feel like I don't know. No, you'll hug, but.

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Speaker 3: It's all right. So it's all right. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: it's really good. He's gotten much better and so good

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Speaker 3: on the air because technically he was hired to do

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Speaker 3: the tech stuff and he still can't figure that shit out.

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Speaker 3: I'm over here getting microphones together before the show, so

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Speaker 3: there is a value add there. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 3: guys on Sunday to continue the countdown. Regular episode out

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Speaker 3: on Tuesday. Enjoy your weekend. Happy Father's Day, everybody,