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Speaker 2: Sean Payton won in his return to New Orleans and
Speaker 2: a blowout and blowout fashion Ojoe. The Broncos blew out
Speaker 2: the injury depleted Saints thirty three ten on Thursday Night
Speaker 2: football bow Knicks Hold on, let me get the box score.
Speaker 2: Bow Knicks played really, really well tonight. He was sixteen
Speaker 2: of twenty six one hundred and sixty four yards a
Speaker 2: clean game. Offensive line did a great job of protecting
Speaker 2: the moho, no sacks, no turnovers. They ran the ball
Speaker 2: thirty five times for two hundred and twenty five yards.
Speaker 2: Javonte Williams had fourteen rushes eighty eight yards and two touchdowns. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as they completely take apart In the New Orleans Saints,
Speaker 2: I mentioned they are injury depleted. Spencer Rattler was twenty
Speaker 2: three and thirty five seventy two, no touchdowns nor interception,
Speaker 2: but he was sacked and he was sacked six times.
Speaker 2: But he was harassed all night long. O Jo, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how I got So you
Speaker 2: know what. The Saints have been bad? What happened?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Listen? Let me say this.
Speaker 2: We watched them take apart the Dallas Cowboys, and so
Speaker 2: we overestimated how good they were. But when you look
Speaker 2: at what has transpired, they won their first games and
Speaker 2: haven't really come close, with the exception of Atlanta winning
Speaker 2: a game since. Oh, Joe, and I don't know what.
Speaker 2: The injury is starting to pile up.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna get it's gonna be better
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Listen, there's too many injuries. Did your best
Speaker 1: two receivers are out. Derek Carr is out the first
Speaker 1: two games of the season. You put up forty five
Speaker 1: points in both of those games. You're going on five
Speaker 1: since then. It's not gonna get any better anytime soon.
Speaker 5: I feel bad. Yeah, hand.
Speaker 3: Week to.
Speaker 5: Because of his hamstring injury. Now he's re injured it.
Speaker 1: So some of some of the key quality players that
Speaker 1: you do need to even compete at the highest level
Speaker 1: because I know what I know. They always say it's
Speaker 1: next man up, but that the next man for a reason,
Speaker 1: the next next man for a reason.
Speaker 5: The Saints have only put.
Speaker 1: Up Yeah, you got only put up fifteen points the
Speaker 1: past five games after scoring forty five in the first two,
Speaker 1: and that's simply due to obviously you said it, and
Speaker 1: I think that's I'm not saying the Broncos won because
Speaker 1: of the Saints' injuries, but it played a big part.
Speaker 1: The Saints are not at full strength. Therefore, listen the scoreline,
Speaker 1: look the way it did. Bo Knicks bow Knicks is good.
Speaker 1: That God damn Javon J.
Speaker 5: Williams, Well, he could tote that pill, boy, he can
Speaker 5: tote that pill.
Speaker 1: I would like to see if the Broncos are playing
Speaker 1: a better team. I would like to see them get
Speaker 1: the pass, the game going a little bit more Courtland sudden.
Speaker 1: They got to get him involved. They gotta get they
Speaker 1: got it. They gotta get him involved. He's making he's
Speaker 1: making too much money to be out there getting Cardio in.
Speaker 5: He's making too much money to be out there getting
Speaker 5: Cardio in. That's all. It was a KNIGHTE got to night.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that that that that shouldn't that shouldn't happen.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's frustrated. I know they won the game.
Speaker 1: But one of the things they do, they'll use it
Speaker 1: against you if you don't have the production make a
Speaker 1: lot of money like he's doing that. They're used that
Speaker 1: against you in the in the off season. But other
Speaker 1: than that, the Broncos look good. I mean, they got
Speaker 1: a tough game next, don't they. Uh right, I could
Speaker 1: have swat, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think
Speaker 1: they got a tough one coming up. Oh sure, that's
Speaker 1: another way. That's another way, you know.
Speaker 4: I like.
Speaker 1: I like bow Knicks too. I like bow knicks. Bow
Speaker 1: Knicks got moxie. I don't even know what moxie mean.
Speaker 1: I just heard my male kiper use it during the
Speaker 1: goddamn draft. He real, he real feisy. Like remember how
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was in Oklahoma for some reason. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Bock just gives me that. He just gave
Speaker 1: me that that that that fire cracker type.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a fire cracker. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to put it in the right words. But I
Speaker 1: like bow Knicks.
Speaker 5: I like him.
Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, he's got he's got some athleticism,
Speaker 2: he can run. Yeah, you need to work on his accuracy,
Speaker 2: but he's you can do a lot of things with him.
Speaker 3: Moo.
Speaker 2: They got the uh they got the uh they got.
Speaker 1: They probably probably gonna win this one, and that momentum,
Speaker 1: that momentum hopefully, you know, they have a great defense.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming maybe pass certain to be back by then
Speaker 1: and not a concussion protocol. But listen, if they could
Speaker 1: win next next one against the Panthers, but they probably will,
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how bow Knicks plays against Now
Speaker 1: we talk about two defenses that are much better, that
Speaker 1: are much better, and you're gonn you're gonna need yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Huh, and offense is also much better.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, So we're gonna see if you if
Speaker 1: you if you're playing from ahead or if you have
Speaker 1: to play from behind, either way it goes. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be a good one, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good test for Bow too. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a real good test for both.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, considering how poorly they played Sunday against
Speaker 2: the Chargers. They didn't play particularly well considering they had
Speaker 2: won three straight and they don't played really they were
Speaker 2: playing really well, So I was surprised that they didn't
Speaker 2: play as well as I thought they would on Sunday
Speaker 2: against the Chargers.
Speaker 3: And the Chargers have been struggling.
Speaker 2: That is a division game, so you know, you kind
Speaker 2: of toss a lot out of the window when you
Speaker 2: play a division opponent because you're very familiar. Even though
Speaker 2: they have a good coaching staff, that's still that's still
Speaker 2: somewhat in your division. A lot of the key players
Speaker 2: are still there, especially offensive. We talk about Justin Herbert
Speaker 2: and a couple of the big a couple of the receivers.
Speaker 2: Although Keenan Allen is gone, Mike Wims is gone, they
Speaker 2: still have some guys that played. He had played a
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of snaps last year for him,
Speaker 2: especially at the skilled position. Offensive line is pretty much intact. Uh,
Speaker 2: they signed all, they drafted all. I don't know if
Speaker 2: he's playing. I think he got Dean Uh. But defensively, uh,
Speaker 2: they still got some player. They got some players over
Speaker 2: there on the defense side of football. That's what's most
Speaker 2: surprising when you talk about the Chargers is that they're
Speaker 2: not better considering the defensive talent that they have on
Speaker 2: that side of the football. But the Broncos go on
Speaker 2: the road on a very short week. It's never easy
Speaker 2: playing on the road. But when you cut the days
Speaker 2: down by three, so instead of playing on a Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 2: you're playing at a Thursday night and you just played
Speaker 2: for Sunday afternoon. Ain't a whole lot of time, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: Ain't a whole lot.
Speaker 3: Ain't a whole lot of own field practice.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of film study, It's a lot of walkthroughs,
Speaker 2: a lot of basic stuff. Hey, let's try to get
Speaker 2: let's try to uh put this thing together and get
Speaker 2: get out of here with the minimal injuries, because you know,
Speaker 2: you sore unless you like you're your first and second
Speaker 2: year anybody that's five five years.
Speaker 3: Oh, you hurt.
Speaker 5: You definitely hurt.
Speaker 2: After being acquired about the New York Jets from the
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders earlier this week, Davonte Adams I ain't
Speaker 2: a long term partnership with the new team. When asked
Speaker 2: if he like a multi year relationship with the Jets,
Speaker 2: I hope. So that's the plan. I never go somewhere
Speaker 2: in hopes of having to find a new home. While
Speaker 2: Rogers have been has been effected throwing the ball to
Speaker 2: gather with Adam's gazar over the last couple of games
Speaker 2: the outside spots, which has been a huge problem. Rogers
Speaker 2: and Mike Williams have not been on the same page.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four. The Jets offensive suffered. They average
Speaker 2: three hundred and four yards per game, eighteen point eight
Speaker 2: points for a little left to nineteen points a game,
Speaker 2: both ranked twenty second.
Speaker 3: O Joe, are you expecting Darren Rdham?
Speaker 1: Expecting old matchers because there's something you can't teach. There's
Speaker 1: something you can teach that Aaron Rodgers and Devonte Adams have.
Speaker 1: That's almost seven or eight years worth of work, seventy
Speaker 1: six something.
Speaker 5: Tav I think maybe fifty seven some TV maybe seventy six.
Speaker 1: Tds, eight thousand yards together, one hundred and seventeen games together,
Speaker 1: and the chemistry that they have.
Speaker 5: A look, I can look at you and I know
Speaker 5: who you're gonna be at. I know everything's gonna do.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers could be blindfolded and whatever the route is,
Speaker 1: he can throw it to a spot.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Devonte Adams is going to be there every time. He's
Speaker 1: familiar with the system that they're running, so all he's
Speaker 1: doing is just it's just he's going to a new team.
Speaker 1: He's with the Jets, and you just plug him in
Speaker 1: and you just go. I mean, I know it sounds
Speaker 1: simple the way I'm saying, but when you have a
Speaker 1: quarterback that you've played with for so long and you
Speaker 1: still as a receiver are very adequate at doing what
Speaker 1: you do as far as getting open and running rounds,
Speaker 1: He's still one of the best despite the lack of
Speaker 1: production because the inconsistent play at quarterback. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with him.
Speaker 5: I guarantee you they both pick up where they left
Speaker 5: off at.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is that they're they're familiar with
Speaker 2: each other. It always helps.
Speaker 3: Same thing system.
Speaker 2: This is the system that he ran in Green Bay,
Speaker 2: and the players familiar. Roger's voice in his ear is familiar.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think they should pick up where they where.
Speaker 5: They kind of left off what I'm excited years.
Speaker 2: Ago, at least I hope so for his sake, because
Speaker 2: you know, look, DeVante wasn't the same receiver last year.
Speaker 2: Not factoring in, not factoring in that he lost Derek Carr,
Speaker 2: ad O'Connell and whomever the other quarterbacks were. That's not Derek.
Speaker 2: That's not Derek Carr. And so no matter what you think, yeah,
Speaker 2: Derek Carr is not.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Right, He's not Joe Burrow, he's not Patrick Mahoe, He's
Speaker 2: not one of these quarterback. But he's better than a Oconma.
Speaker 2: In his first year with Davonte, Davonte had fifteen hundred yards,
Speaker 2: was the first team off bro. There's something to be
Speaker 2: said for.
Speaker 1: It's one thing that I hate that that the pundits do,
Speaker 1: the analysts, those that should know the game, and they
Speaker 1: always talk about certain players losing a step or they
Speaker 1: don't have it anymore. When you don't factor in that,
Speaker 1: for one, the inconsistent player quarterback affects that the opportunities
Speaker 1: that you normally get when they're putting up those those numbers,
Speaker 1: those good numbers.
Speaker 5: There's a reason why you're not doing so.
Speaker 1: And they never facted it in the first thing and says, oh,
Speaker 1: the players losing a step when you know that's not
Speaker 1: the case, instead of saying exactly what it is. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up because we know there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with him. Now you'll know when the player
Speaker 1: loses a step by watching him. I'm curious to see
Speaker 1: how teams are going to play the Jets now they
Speaker 1: play the Steelers. So it's gonna be a very very
Speaker 1: interesting matchup. Joey Porter Jr. Is he gonna take Garrett
Speaker 1: Wilson or they're gonna put the number one on on
Speaker 1: on Davante Adams. So I'm not sure that it's gonna
Speaker 1: play out. So for his first game back with Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: this is a good game, a good test for them
Speaker 1: because they're playing a very good defense in the Steelers.
Speaker 5: So I'm excited. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I think I think they're gonna pick up right where
Speaker 1: they left off at and that there's a there's a
Speaker 1: certain chemistry when you play with somebody, so long that
Speaker 1: you just can't replicate.
Speaker 5: And I know, I just know they're gonna take some
Speaker 5: of the things they.
Speaker 1: Did in Green Bay added to that, added to that offense,
Speaker 1: and they gonna they just gonna go to work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's let's Aaron Rode hadn't played well this
Speaker 2: year with YO. Yeah, I mean, let's not. I mean,
Speaker 2: I understand what he was in Green Bay, but we
Speaker 2: haven't seen that yet with the Jets, and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be very interesting to see if he can get back. Now,
Speaker 2: do we do I expect him to be what he
Speaker 2: was in the MVP seasons. I don't know, Yoe, I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he No.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you have a weapon like that, you
Speaker 1: can count on every goddamn time if you look.
Speaker 5: If you've been watching the Just games, I've been watching the.
Speaker 1: Jets games, like maybe you got you got a young
Speaker 1: bull like like seventeen men that can actually get open
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 5: I really think, even.
Speaker 1: Posts pre Achilles injury, he could always count on them
Speaker 1: boys to be open.
Speaker 5: That's that's the reason he was able to win that MVP.
Speaker 1: He was he was able to get the ball to them,
Speaker 1: he was able to facilitate and they were always open.
Speaker 5: He knew where everybody was gonna be. They were always
Speaker 5: in the right spot.
Speaker 1: There would be no mistakes like you saw the other
Speaker 1: night when he threw the ball to Mike will and
Speaker 1: Mike wasn't on the red line.
Speaker 3: What's like that?
Speaker 5: Oh, the quarterback? You got to eat.
Speaker 2: What you say? What you what you say? Is there
Speaker 2: a little miscommunication?
Speaker 3: You know? Now we get behind closed doors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really in the side, but he never got
Speaker 1: back out if they if they plan to, and you
Speaker 1: got you got to go ball. If you're gonna release outside,
Speaker 1: get back out there to the red line.
Speaker 5: So the quarterback out somewhere to go with.
Speaker 3: It, eat it.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times you think during the course
Speaker 2: of the game a receiver runs the wrong route, quarterback
Speaker 2: has the wrong read and you don't know about it
Speaker 2: because they don't discuss it. And then we should have
Speaker 2: behind closed That's what we do. That's why that's why
Speaker 2: cars are like, Hey, yeah, John with the same John
Speaker 2: with the same way. Troy was the same way. Peyton, Manny,
Speaker 2: you heard Peyton Matt quarterbacks. Hey you understand Hey they
Speaker 2: controlled Yeah, they control the food on the table. Now,
Speaker 2: then they'll control whether you get to eat a lot
Speaker 2: or a little. Now how much you want to eat?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 5: Careful? Oh I'm okay, better be careful.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you how how I want chat chat those
Speaker 1: you to look at Look at my stats when you
Speaker 1: get the chance, look at my stats. I remember what
Speaker 1: year this was, but I was kind of disgruntled. I
Speaker 1: was kind of disgrundled. And I don't think I asked
Speaker 1: for a trade. It might have been Drew. It just
Speaker 1: I kind of got sick of the media blaming me
Speaker 1: for the reason.
Speaker 5: We were losing.
Speaker 1: So they were putting everything on me because obviously I
Speaker 1: was the one doing all having all the fun and whatever.
Speaker 1: So they started to turn on me a little bit
Speaker 1: our own media in Cincinnati, and I said, you know what, well, hey, I.
Speaker 5: Want to trade, I want out something like that.
Speaker 1: And I remember the Reds excuse me, the Commanders at
Speaker 1: that time, and Dan Snyder. They offered the Bengals are
Speaker 1: one for one, and Mike Brown said, no, Mike Sudden, No,
Speaker 1: we're not going to set a precedent that a player
Speaker 1: can come in and say, okay, he's not happy and say, oh.
Speaker 5: You know what I want. I want to treat it. Nah,
Speaker 5: it ain't happening, So they turned that down, right.
Speaker 1: I'm just coming off a really good season despite me
Speaker 1: being this scrounnle. I don't know what they did offensively
Speaker 1: or how they weren't able to get me.
Speaker 5: The ball that particular year.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Uncle, I had by five hundred
Speaker 1: yards the whole season.
Speaker 3: I swear to that.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't oh no, no no.
Speaker 1: The last three year, gelve hundred and thirteen yard season,
Speaker 1: and then you know I was getting the MEETI was
Speaker 1: on my ass about us losing. There was nothing. I
Speaker 1: was healthy. I was completely healthy. I swear for god.
Speaker 1: If you look at my stats, you look at it,
Speaker 1: it's thousands, thousand, thousand, thousand thousands, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's a five hundred yard season. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they found a way, like like.
Speaker 5: To work me out the offense.
Speaker 1: I really had five hundred yards the whole season, and
Speaker 1: then the next season I'm right back to twelve mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Like it like in a sense, it was like, damn,
Speaker 1: are they that powerful?
Speaker 5: Where you know what? Or you want to play with us?
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna play with two the whole season, and
Speaker 1: I was scared to say anything because I already caused
Speaker 1: brookers and made noise in the off season, so I'm
Speaker 1: definitely not gonna do it in season because I'm already
Speaker 1: I'm already on thin ice in a sense, and I'm like, well, damn,
Speaker 1: they not even like I'm not even part of the offense.
Speaker 5: That's what it felt like. And I was still I
Speaker 5: was still that boy.
Speaker 1: I ain't know what the hell was. I ain't know
Speaker 1: what the hell was going on. So I just had
Speaker 1: to throw that story out there based on what you
Speaker 1: were just talking about.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem that they have is that can
Speaker 2: they protect Now you see Buffalo had relentless pressures on Rogers.
Speaker 3: What do you think? What do you think the Steelers
Speaker 3: are gonna be with teachers?
Speaker 1: The better chip they go to have a game plan
Speaker 1: because is the brother Tyron Smith on the left side. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: no disrespect, no disrespect to him, But obviously I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have to go again TJ Walker, TJ.
Speaker 1: Whit is most of the time he's on on the
Speaker 1: left side, so he'd be dealing with the right tackle.
Speaker 5: But the young bull, the young bull.
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was he was struggling with,
Speaker 1: but he looked like his feet and seamen out there
Speaker 1: as he's not he's not what he once was when
Speaker 1: he with the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Maybe the injury, I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the Jets were expecting to
Speaker 2: get to get the old Tyrant Smith. They just got
Speaker 2: an old tyrant Smith because he doesn't move. He doesn't move,
Speaker 2: he doesn't hit his.
Speaker 3: Face and kicked the slide and it's hard, right.
Speaker 2: He don't cover as much grind with the kick, and
Speaker 2: he's got he's got really lazy with his hands. And
Speaker 2: you see a lot of guys just wax on, wax off,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna they buy it, and they never he was.
Speaker 2: He was so strong at the point of attack. Once
Speaker 2: he put that hand and get you in your chest.
Speaker 2: But you ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: El Yes, yeah, you know I'd be I'll be watching Lott,
Speaker 1: I'll be walking, I'll be watching off asive tackle play.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I know. Here're the list of receivers that could be
Speaker 2: moved by the dadline. You got DeAndre Hopkins with the Titans.
Speaker 2: You got Deontay Johnson of the Panthers. You got Mike
Speaker 2: Williams of the Joe, You got Cooper Cup of the Rams.
Speaker 5: Hold on, hell, they got Jordan addis name in there.
Speaker 5: There's no need to move Jordan. There's no need to
Speaker 5: move Jordan's okay, the Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1: I understand Coop and the cop is probably gonna take
Speaker 1: over take over for a Cooper Cup. Yeah, sat, I
Speaker 1: mean obviously salary they put him on there. They you
Speaker 1: might not even know. He might take a pay cut.
Speaker 1: He might take a pay cut to stay in that system.
Speaker 5: Give me, give me one more Deontay Johnson. You know
Speaker 5: what you know? He would be a good fit.
Speaker 1: For him to go back to Yeah, right back to
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because they're they're really no disrespect to any of
Speaker 1: the receivers on the Steelers team, but he's another good,
Speaker 1: viable option that can get the f open on the
Speaker 1: other side of George Spickings.
Speaker 5: Why not you think you don't want to?
Speaker 3: What do you want to? That's why they let him go?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: What was you do? Remember the loafing?
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3: Remember that.
Speaker 1: I'm attitude a different perspective because as you look at it,
Speaker 1: when you go from team to team like that, all
Speaker 1: right now, the windows closing, the wind, the wind, the windows,
Speaker 1: the windows starting to close.
Speaker 5: Your eyes start to open up a little, a little
Speaker 5: bit more. You know, you know you're not a young chicken.
Speaker 5: You ain't no spring chicken.
Speaker 1: The more you start paying attention to the way the
Speaker 1: league is moving the older folks out, so you come
Speaker 1: in on your best behavior.
Speaker 5: When you get a second sometimes the third chance.
Speaker 2: Is Max Crosby on the move soon. Also, he had
Speaker 2: some interesting comments today. I'm not here to rebuild. I'm
Speaker 2: here to win, whatever that means. But I'm here to win.
Speaker 3: Now. Wherever I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be here to win.
Speaker 2: So if I'm Detroit, I offer a first and a
Speaker 2: third round pick for Max Crosby. I'm not bull job,
Speaker 2: I'm not Look, this is what I got on the
Speaker 2: table for you. I got a first and a third
Speaker 2: because you just left one of the premium.
Speaker 5: Leading second d seven and a half sacks.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get Max crowd.
Speaker 1: In and imagine next year. Max on one Saturday eight
Speaker 1: and O'Connor on another. I mean O'Connell and eight Huncherson
Speaker 1: on the other.
Speaker 2: Side, eight Hutcherson and they just signed I mean, they
Speaker 2: got they got DJ Reader, they got DJ Riader that
Speaker 2: was at Cincinnati. I forget. They just they just extended
Speaker 2: a big d tackle. I forget his name. They just
Speaker 2: gave a boatload of money, like ninety plus million dollars.
Speaker 2: They got some they got some good young talent. H
Speaker 2: I mean that GM has done a great job. But
Speaker 2: if I'm Max Bobby, I'm like, I'm trying to I'm
Speaker 2: trying to go to Detroit. That's what I want to be,
Speaker 2: and he is. He is a dream for Campbell. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the that's the kind of guy Campbell wants the coach.
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna ay, gotta say much. See a lot
Speaker 2: of people, I ain't one. See a lot of people
Speaker 2: get food by you know Jered. You know, Jerry's made
Speaker 2: a lot of black men millionaires. Those men could do
Speaker 2: something for Jerry. Don't let Jerry fool you. He don't
Speaker 2: fool Shannon. He showed you who he was. Jerry showed you.
Speaker 2: He showed you a lot who he was in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: He showed you, But y'all didn't want to listen to it.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, y'all don't want y y'a don't believe y'all
Speaker 2: didn't believe what you y'all didn't believe with her. Now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, some of y'all shot Jerry.
Speaker 1: Neil what Yeah, Okay, you will be on the line.
Speaker 2: Your head will be over y'all. Like I said, you
Speaker 2: can m when you get upset. Yeah, And what you
Speaker 2: say and how.
Speaker 5: You treat anything, that's how you everything.
Speaker 2: Everything, everything. So hopefully Mario, uh uh, they build a
Speaker 2: relationship builder. Get on the same page real real quick.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna talk about Jerry a little later. We
Speaker 2: ain't done with his asked yet. I know, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Clearly the odds make us ought your feel that Cooper
Speaker 2: is a bigger addition to Bills that Adams to the Jets.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, Because if Chiefs won, Ravens to Texans and
Speaker 2: Bills tied for the third best odds and then you
Speaker 2: have the Jets the fourth best, I mean the Bengals
Speaker 2: and the Jets.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, based on I think the odds makers
Speaker 1: are looking at how the Bills are playing before Mary
Speaker 1: got there. They're looking at how Josh Allen was playing,
Speaker 1: not having you know, superstar weapons at his disposal, and
Speaker 1: they were still doing okay, they were still doing well.
Speaker 5: So with his addition, I mean it.
Speaker 1: Just I mean, obviously, it just takes everything up a
Speaker 1: little a little bit more.
Speaker 5: I could be wrong. I don't know how they I
Speaker 5: don't know how they make these things.
Speaker 1: But again, it's just it's an educated guest because you
Speaker 1: never know how things are going to turn out.
Speaker 5: That's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: And it's stuff like that where people think that the
Speaker 1: game is rigged.
Speaker 5: They think it is, but.
Speaker 1: It's impossible to get fifty three people on the same page.
Speaker 1: I know that it's impossible to orchestrate fifty three people
Speaker 1: or eleven on one side of the ball and the
Speaker 1: other eleven the follower. Goddamn script. That's why I understand
Speaker 1: why people say that sometime. Do you know how difficult
Speaker 1: that would be?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: Please?
Speaker 3: Oh yo, we played the game.
Speaker 2: You tell the first person, you tell them something in
Speaker 2: the air, and by the time we get all the
Speaker 2: way to the back, dang what he was saying?
Speaker 3: One other thing? So how you gonna get fit? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Maybe once upon a time. Oh yo, there's too much
Speaker 2: money involved. You talking about a guy that's making sixty
Speaker 2: million you really tell me he willing to risk his
Speaker 2: sixty million for the league to do what?
Speaker 3: But I.
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: O yoe?
Speaker 5: Right? I think you know, I think they be playing.
Speaker 5: Maybe they be playing some time and.
Speaker 2: There ain't nothing you can do now they be dead serious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Oh your people are gullible. Why why you think? Like
Speaker 2: you said, look at the Internet, people believe that that
Speaker 2: those are those people live, that they really be buying
Speaker 2: pirate jets and they have them big homes and they
Speaker 2: have all the cars and all that stuff. You see
Speaker 2: how the internet do that and how somebody can say
Speaker 2: something on the Internet and it is totally not true,
Speaker 2: but then it gets retweeted, it gets shared, and then
Speaker 2: it gets Man, that's all these hopes such and such die.
Speaker 3: People are gullable. Oh your people are naive.
Speaker 2: Troy Aigman did not hold back when addressing the disappointment
Speaker 2: of the cow to the start of the Cowboys season,
Speaker 2: CD Lamb and the other Dallas wide receivers for their
Speaker 2: performances hold on through the first six game. I think
Speaker 2: the routes are terrible. I think they run terrible routes
Speaker 2: and I've always thought that beyond this year, I think
Speaker 2: CD's got to improve, and it's route running. And as
Speaker 2: a quarterback, if you're not certain where the guys are
Speaker 2: going to be consistently, it's hard to play that position.
Speaker 2: I see guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they run. If they do, it's because they're anticipating
Speaker 2: they're going to get the football on that play. But
Speaker 2: if they're not, they don't. And it all ties together.
Speaker 2: So I'm not impressed with that part of the game.
Speaker 2: Troy also talked about CD missing minicamp. I'm an old
Speaker 2: school guy. I just believe practice matters, so do I.
Speaker 2: I believe that having the team together matters, so do I.
Speaker 2: So if I knew I was going to be sign
Speaker 2: him anyway, I would have had the signed so he'd
Speaker 2: be working out with my quarterback and doing things that
Speaker 2: they should be doing. Ojo, You see, this is what
Speaker 2: I like, Ojo. I like when Troy see, I like
Speaker 2: whomen right. White quarterbacks say that right because they don't
Speaker 2: get labored as haters are jealous. See when you and
Speaker 2: I say that, if I have said the exact same thing, saying, oh,
Speaker 2: you're a hater, you jealous? You bringing the black man? Now,
Speaker 2: what y'all to say about Troy. I'm listening, Jemmy. The
Speaker 2: comments say, say true, he jealous, he hated, he envious,
Speaker 2: because that's what y'all do when black. We try to
Speaker 2: offer critique for what we see having played the game.
Speaker 2: Y'all kill us, y'all beat us up. Now what y'all
Speaker 2: gona say about true joy, don't you? But CD was
Speaker 2: never Ojo. I never looked at CD as a route run.
Speaker 2: CD is a guy that's tremendous run after the cat.
Speaker 2: He's not a route runner. He's not technically sound like Jella.
Speaker 2: He's not technically sound like Davonte. He's not a route runner.
Speaker 2: He's not like Tory Hole. He's not like mckeena mccardo,
Speaker 2: he's not like Jimmy Smith. He's not like you, Ojo.
Speaker 2: That's not what he is. And that's okay. But what
Speaker 2: I do agree with Troy is that, bro, even when
Speaker 2: you're not getting the ball, you gotta bust your butt
Speaker 2: off the ball.
Speaker 1: I got to come on like the fact him singling
Speaker 1: out CD, him singing out that, I mean, I hear
Speaker 1: a lot of CDs.
Speaker 5: There's CD that CDC. But hell, the.
Speaker 1: Goddamn defense is atrocious. The defense the defense is atrocious, magnified.
Speaker 1: Now everything is magnified now because you're losing. So now
Speaker 1: when you're losing, everything is magnified. So now they nick
Speaker 1: pick it every little goddamn thing.
Speaker 2: But you know that going in, Oh yo, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: You start to lose, They say, you lose your helmet,
Speaker 2: You start to lose, got your locker room dirty? I
Speaker 2: told him, Jared, come about, we don't need him in practice.
Speaker 2: I said, you see, I said, see you say, I said,
Speaker 2: you say, how dumb that sound? Now you know you're
Speaker 2: gonna sign him or we're gonna get it. We knew
Speaker 2: he was gonna sign him. Why would you What do
Speaker 2: you mean he doesn't get anything at practice? Do you
Speaker 2: see the connection or the non connection that he and
Speaker 2: back has had for the first six games off.
Speaker 5: A little bit?
Speaker 1: You get that you no matter what y'all did the
Speaker 1: previous year.
Speaker 5: You have to get it in the lab.
Speaker 1: You got to get in the lab and rebuild that
Speaker 1: chemistry all up again. You got to unplug your router,
Speaker 1: plug it back in and restart.
Speaker 5: Every season. You gotta do it, and you can't do
Speaker 5: it in the off season.
Speaker 1: When you're just by yourself constructured environment with people know
Speaker 1: they're talking on you. That's what that's what you get
Speaker 1: it done. And if you knew he was gonna sign him,
Speaker 1: why wait, why you did the same thing with goddamn Zeke.
Speaker 5: You did the same thing with Zeke.
Speaker 1: Are you serious about winning that you need all your
Speaker 1: players together? You need them all together when it counts
Speaker 1: and when it matters. Mini camp, training camp, all season
Speaker 1: workouts come on.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: But but here's the thing, though, O Joe, is that
Speaker 2: we know Troy. Troy got in Mike's ass right in fact,
Speaker 2: that he demanded excellent from Mike. So this is not
Speaker 2: but I just believe you got the whole guy's accounts.
Speaker 2: It is an absolute must. Now, I'm not telling what
Speaker 2: somebody told you told me to say. I'm telling you
Speaker 2: haven't been in situation. The standard is the standard, and
Speaker 2: we don't change that standard because of who you are.
Speaker 2: We play to the standard and whatever and whatever happens
Speaker 2: after that, we live with it.
Speaker 3: But we're not gonna come here.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no no no no no no no
Speaker 2: no no no. When we hit that field, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: we had an expectation. I don't know how everybody else
Speaker 2: did it. But when we hit that field in Denver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all, listen, y'all was a well oil machine. Bright,
Speaker 1: y'all was a well oil machine. Well oil machine.
Speaker 2: There was an expectation on yo, right, there was an
Speaker 2: expectation that we had. We played to a standard. We
Speaker 2: know what was expect We knew what was expected of
Speaker 2: us from each an individual, each and every one of us.
Speaker 2: John had to play till we had a standard here, right,
Speaker 2: But John needed to play to his standard. Eighty four
Speaker 2: needed to play to his standards. So the thirty eighty,
Speaker 2: seventh and eighty everybody played to the standard and then
Speaker 2: whatever happens after that. We lived with it. But it
Speaker 2: wasn't people think you get good in the game. You
Speaker 2: win the games. Monday through Friday. Everything is tied together.
Speaker 2: Anybody that tells you that it's not don't play the
Speaker 2: game and they've never played the game. That's when you
Speaker 2: win the game. It's what you do in the meetings.
Speaker 2: How tend of are you in practice?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I know practice, Yeah, I need it, I need I
Speaker 2: just I just don't get these guys. While attending the
Speaker 2: NFL meetings in Atlanta, Jerry explained to the athletics Diana Racini.
Speaker 2: Why he reacted the way he did on one on
Speaker 2: five point three, I don't know. I don't know that
Speaker 2: I would go as far as calling it the volume
Speaker 2: connotation is yelling. Okay, But the facts are, if I'm
Speaker 2: going to be grilled by Trump, by the tribunal, I
Speaker 2: don't need to be by the guys that I'm paying.
Speaker 2: Oh so he can't fire from Huh? If you paid
Speaker 2: somebody's salary, can you fire the mojo? So let me
Speaker 2: repeat that, because a lot of times people are like, well, Jack,
Speaker 2: But the facts are that if I'm going to be
Speaker 2: grilled by the tribunal, I don't need it to be
Speaker 2: by guys that I'm paid. I can take it from
Speaker 2: the fans, I can take it from other people. I
Speaker 2: take a lot of pride in High Fair and how
Speaker 2: much I try to work with the media. We're brothers
Speaker 2: and sisters. But I was a little frustrated there that day.
Speaker 2: Little Okay, we got in there as of accounting for
Speaker 2: decisions made in the off season, Okay, that might be
Speaker 2: as well gone back to the decision I made in twenty ten.
Speaker 2: My point is that that's from my perspective there's no question.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that they would have liked have me grill
Speaker 2: Like fans are thinking, what are you going to do
Speaker 2: about this? Or what are you gonna do about that?
Speaker 2: I get it. I get all of that, and I
Speaker 2: really go I was really and really will go along
Speaker 2: with it. I know you wouldn't Jerry. Jerry went on
Speaker 2: to explain how this frustration stem from the individual asking
Speaker 2: the questions, not necessarily the topic itself. The wrong ones
Speaker 2: were doing the questioning. Now those had been real fans
Speaker 2: sitting there, if they've been people that I knew, they
Speaker 2: would have been talking about football people, I might have
Speaker 2: a different fan.
Speaker 5: I would, dude, I would have left. I would have
Speaker 5: I would I would have left. Huh. And that makes
Speaker 5: me get another radio job somewhere, job that job? Trust
Speaker 5: me you can.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna ask your question.
Speaker 2: So you think you could walk out on the job
Speaker 2: that Jerry Jones and you're gonna go get another job?
Speaker 3: Now? I would you talking about it?
Speaker 1: I think just based some circumstances, and other radio stations
Speaker 1: know what happened.
Speaker 5: Man there, they'll hire that boy.
Speaker 1: Jerry wants some yes man because he's paying them.
Speaker 5: That's all it is he wants some year he want?
Speaker 1: I want yes, if I'm paying you, make sure you
Speaker 1: don't ask me the tough questions and make sure you're
Speaker 1: on my side at all times.
Speaker 5: A bunch of yes men. Dude, it's like it's like
Speaker 5: it's like dudes with an entourage. Dude, you know the
Speaker 5: golden goose who making the money? You never want to
Speaker 5: tell them?
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 5: That ain't a good idea. Boy, You know you shouldn't
Speaker 5: be doing that.
Speaker 1: You know what you was drinking? Give me your keys,
Speaker 1: let me drive. But you don't want to say nothing
Speaker 1: because you don't want to get your check cut off.
Speaker 1: You don't want to get cut off.
Speaker 5: Oh man, I don't think yep. Oh tell him to
Speaker 5: hide me in.
Speaker 3: Dallas, In Dallas, in Dallas.
Speaker 2: If Jerry Jones goes to any anything he says, don't
Speaker 2: hire him. That guy's not getting hired. The cowboys. The
Speaker 2: cowboys are Dallas. Oh, Joe, the man tried to get
Speaker 2: Roger Gooddell? What the hell you think you gonna do
Speaker 2: to a guy making one hundred to between one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand and four hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, power that It reveals who a person truly is
Speaker 1: what it revealed who a person truly is. You got
Speaker 1: that kind of money, You're gonna flex your power. You'renna
Speaker 1: fle your muscles.
Speaker 2: You want to be attached. You want to be attached
Speaker 2: to the cowboys, Oh shoe, you want to be attached.
Speaker 2: You want to be the glass ship station. You want
Speaker 2: to be able to have You want to be able
Speaker 2: to talk to Jared?
Speaker 5: At what costs? At what costs? At what cost?
Speaker 1: You can't even look yourself in the goddamn mirror and
Speaker 1: really be yourself. You really can't ask a question you
Speaker 1: need to ask. You can't ask the questions that the
Speaker 1: people that's listening to the rail station want you to ask,
Speaker 1: because you got to pay and the piece.
Speaker 5: To the man, pay you the money, write in the check.
Speaker 5: Got me, got me fucked up?
Speaker 3: Tell them?
Speaker 2: H me?
Speaker 5: I asked them the questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you won't because we're just not starting to
Speaker 3: get you to do the right thing. Yeah back, I
Speaker 3: know you are, definitely with Jerry.
Speaker 5: I asked him.
Speaker 3: There, you're not there.
Speaker 2: See, you have to be careful. That's why I say
Speaker 2: let me have of this. You got to be careful.
Speaker 2: Oh run everything, bro, I.
Speaker 5: Got I got the main man. I got the main
Speaker 5: man on speed that I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just between you and I. Yeah, the most
Speaker 2: powerful man in the NFL. He lives in Dallas.
Speaker 5: I don't like the I don't like the way he's
Speaker 5: trying to scare me because he don't want no.
Speaker 3: Trying to scare you. Yeah, you know I We'll keep
Speaker 3: it factual with you. That's him.
Speaker 2: Stephen Jones has to make sure he got something to
Speaker 2: say this week. When asked if he sees any significant
Speaker 2: coaching or personnel changes during the body he said, no,
Speaker 2: I don't. We got the right kind of guys on
Speaker 2: the right on the coaching staff, and I think we
Speaker 2: have the right kind of players. I feel like we
Speaker 2: got the right group here. I don't necessarily know that
Speaker 2: raising hell is the answer here. So I ain't no changes.
Speaker 5: What's a as they gonna make right now? Anyway?
Speaker 1: And he really where you're gonna go? I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna make changes, there has to be a direction
Speaker 1: in what you're going to go and when you.
Speaker 5: Make the change, what coach you're gonna go get? What
Speaker 5: plays can you go get?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think right, I don't think Jerry would make
Speaker 2: a coaching change in season. Yeah, because Zim is on
Speaker 2: the staff. Zim defense getting trounced, So how do you
Speaker 2: promote him? Brian Schottenheimer has never been a head coach.
Speaker 2: His offense is not like they're lighting it up. So
Speaker 2: if I were to remove Macarthury from his duties, where
Speaker 2: am I going with this?
Speaker 5: I got you.
Speaker 3: So, but you know, look that's what power does? I mean?
Speaker 2: Power has you moving and thinking, Oh, you asked me
Speaker 2: that question. Oh, get him up off of that. He
Speaker 2: gonna talk about it was the guy the guys asked
Speaker 2: you a million of the questions before. Yes, he was
Speaker 2: upset because he getting the doors, but he getting Hey
Speaker 2: they breaking it off up in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they bringing it off up in the car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, up till they breaking it off up in it.
Speaker 2: And it ain't nothing he can do, Ojo. It's one
Speaker 2: thing if you know, you lose about field goal here
Speaker 2: or something. They getting blown out of the building, their building. Kemper,
Speaker 2: know what Junior said. My question is is when of
Speaker 2: the Broncos going to retire? You're eighty four, so no
Speaker 2: one else can wear it, you know, Kemper, that's a
Speaker 2: good question.
Speaker 3: I don't know. You know what I need to talk.
Speaker 3: I need to talk to a Walton pill of family.
Speaker 2: I think if you went to go to the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame, I think you should have your jersey retire.
Speaker 2: Especially I did spend twelve about fourteen years there, helped
Speaker 2: win two Super Bowls. Hell, I think me zum Water
Speaker 2: meanseum Water, Champ left it. Well, oh well you could
Speaker 2: wear it. You go into the Hall of Fame, you
Speaker 2: can get it.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Nelson said, who is your top five Broncos of all time? Well,
Speaker 2: you gotta start with seven is one. I would go
Speaker 2: TD von Miller, John T d Von.
Speaker 3: Hell. I know he only played four years there, but hell,
Speaker 3: you can't leave Peyton out.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say there's a tie between me and Champ
Speaker 3: Bailey for five.
Speaker 5: I would take Peyton out and put Champ.
Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of like.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, he played, he played for the Broncos man,
Speaker 2: I mean, he won an m v P. He went
Speaker 2: the two Super Bowls. Uh, he was a two time
Speaker 2: first team All Pro. He broke the record of touchdown
Speaker 2: passing the game I mean a season. He broke the
Speaker 2: record touch pass the yards of the season. So I
Speaker 2: mean Vonn basically single handed won a Super Bowl, So
Speaker 2: I mean he got what damn one hundred sacks for
Speaker 2: the Broncos.
Speaker 3: Man. I think he's the premium defensive player in Bronco history.
Speaker 2: And you know, we've had some you know, we had
Speaker 2: Tombstone Jackson, we had Randy Gradishaw, you had Meg, you
Speaker 2: had Dennis Smith, you had Ad Water. We've had some
Speaker 2: pretty good defensive players. But I think Vonn is the
Speaker 2: best one.